Largest Layoff In Video Game History
>>742274514
YOU DID THIS
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It looks like Xbox is going even farther than Sega did and they're not even gonna go third-party after this is done, they're just gonna close.
>even Bethesda is reportedly getting not insignificant cut
>>742274839>MicroSlop is kill in your lifetime.apology for poor englishwhen were you when MicroSlop Windoze 11 dies?i was sat at home using Linux when Torvalds ring‘MicroSlop is kill’‘yes’
>>742275670WHOSE LAUGHING NOW!?...I was in the chess club...
>>742275758
This was inevitable after xbox buying multiple studios that didn't produce successful games
>>742275670Good. They failed to even begin on TES6, what the fuck are they doing?
What's her endgame?
>>742274514>i totally heard about this>no, i can't give you detailsthis whole thing feels like a fake out
>>742274514Are they preparing themselves to leave the gaming market or what? What's their goal here? they HAVE to know this will do nothing but harm and bad reputation.Which is especially stupid as their new CEO had being doing damage control since she was established, only for this to happen.Exorbitant prices, loss of ownership, rise of subscriptions based models, people being fired, automation of everything even if the result is 10 times worse. What a future we are heading for...
>>742274514Don't worry. All the HR women will still be employed. It was a hard decision for them.
>>742275845They don't let them produce games. I remember when DoubleFine got acquired, they were already working on Psychonauts 2. Microsoft told them to ship it in 2 weeks or they were cancelling the project, which is why the game feels so unfinished. DoubleFine has produced literally zero games since.
>>742275845*xbox buying multiple studios and then preventing them from making any kind of game at all, including shutting them down once the game they were bought mid-production of releases>>742275917She's there to take the heat for closing the Xbox wing.
>>742275845they didn't produce games at allits like westoids collectively decided that the jobs of game developers is to sit on their ass and make social media posts before releasing a single 4 hour long "cinematic experience" after 5 years
>>742275670>>742275819they wont dismantle BGS until they release TES6 and Fo5. they spent billions acquiring them
>>742274514>buy 100 studios>let them be free>wow this is devastating! how retarded are people. this is the best thing to happen to gaming since xbox one ruined xbox forever.
>>742275953didn't they did though? there was a game with a walking harbor. released last year I think.
>>742275935the bad reputation costs less than paying the salaries of a few thousand people for years
>>742274514>Everyone who said a fucking jeeta would save xbox's fw
>>742275917To gut everything while obfuscating responsibility and diverting criticism
>>742276038>let them be freeThey're all gonna die with Xbox if they don't buy their own freedom first.
>>742274514>Source: Trust me bro>Impact: Not saying, tee-hee!!Fuck off, you clout chasing bitch
>>742274514western consoles were a mistake, and Xbox should have never entered the market.
>>742274514>Xbox suddenly surprisingly starts getting popular again>Microsoft suits immediately clamp down with a plan to make sure it remains unpopular and in third place foreverWhere do they find these idiots?
>>742276062She was doing a good job at saving face for like two weeks lmao
Kojimbo must be sweating bullets considering his horror project is with them.
This just means that dei are out.Yup, XBOX is saved
>>742276097>Xbox suddenly surprisingly starts getting popular againWhat? Xbox sunsetting and obviously doing so with Game Pass's failures and the passing-of-torch from Phil Spencer to this new woman is the most people have talked about Xbox since the 360. That's not popularity that's infamy
>>742276063at least someone else gets it. also she's going to hire a bunchof pajeets and take a bunchof blackrock money while they gut the entire company from the inside. goodbye xbox, goodbye microsoft.
>>742275917Crashing this industry with no survivors.
>>742274514>Xbox is going to be supremely unpopular for a very long timeNo one will care. Like what the fuck just make some good games
>>742275963They gave these studios all 5+ years and tens to hundreds of millions of dollars. All they had to do was make a compelling piece of entertainment with the most relaxed dev cycles we've ever seen. The result was absolute dog shit. Bring back sociopathic middle managers and extended crunch time.
>>742276043Ah, so they did. Wonder why Microsoft was so against them making Psychonauts 2, because that was literally what happened according to the documentary.
>>742276097I feels like there's a sizeable part of Microsoft who genuinely hate that Xbox is still existing and would want them gone to put their money elsewhere, and these people are now high in the company ladders. it's the only explanation I can find. a number of people this high isn't just to "replace jobs" or "restructuring", it's a lot more nefariousThey can't sell Xbox but they will sabotage it to hell.
>>742276079nigger it's 2026. you don't need publishers. you barely need more than 10 people to make a video game.
>>742276195Microsoft would not let them do fucking anything, this isn't even getting into the 18-month tour of duty contractor work that Microsoft does to every studio they've hired ever to deny them seniority and benefits.
>>742276206I think it was because 2 was already in development BEFORE them being acquired by Microsoft, so they barely had any control on the game, it was more a remnant
>>742276147You weren't paying attention for the few weeks after the new lady's promotion.
>>742274514>I seen list>No, me won't shareI just saw George's mom's pussy (no I won't post it) but it's fucking huge
>>742276170Maybe if you timmies in your gay little gaming unions actually made a good videogame they wouldn't need to hire Rajnesh to pick up the pieces of this dead industry.
Like really who the fuck cares?This shit is like reality TV, where people care more about companies who make games and the drama associated with them instead of fucking playing video games.I just don’t get it; some losers are going to lose their jobs. Probably some decent programmers as well. This happens everyday outside of the video game industry as well. It’s part of the corporate world to make numbers go up.But you have to remember that all these people who “suck” are being released into the gaming ecosystem with Microsoft on their resume. They will be scooped up to do the same shitty job somewhere else. This isn’t the own you think it is - in a way Microsoft was containing these shit workers from contaminating the broader, and shrinking, ecosystem.
>>742274839Good.Took 21 years too long, but good.
>a company full of jeets since the early 2000sWhy the fuck people care about the xbox brand again?The only thing that kept this division afloat was microsoft infinite pockets. No merit, no souls, just tons of marketing and cash dumping
>>742275935Microsoft is pushing all their resources into AI. At this point the XBox brand just does not make financial sense to keep running.
>>742274514Xbox deserves worse for shutting down Ensemble.
>>742276240Anon unless you are an indie this is insane to say, you can't make a big production with only 10 people. ESPECIALLY today.
>>742275953So microsoft is the reason why psychonauts 2 was released at all?remember that the game had been in development since 2017 and was released in 20214 years and thats all they had to show for it
>>742276328They don't have unions, that's why they can be fired.
>>742276358But they have Peabody award winning game studios! Do you not care about LE HECKING COOL AND VALID VIDEOGAMES AS AN ART FORM!?!
>>742276331>instead of fucking playing video games.hey retard, they don't make games worth playing. that's the fucking point.
>>742274514this massive layoff is proof that the Sonic meme was complete bullshit and was just a meme all along.these guys were paid more money on a generous timetable making games that they wanted with worse graphics, and what happened?NOTHING HAPPENED.everyone who unironically thought like the Sonic meme didn't put their money where their mouth was and didn't buy the games.the truth of the matter is that gamers want LONGER games with WORSE graphics made by people who are paid LESS to work MORE,and I'm NOT kidding.
>>742275953> which is why the game feels so unfinishedHuh? I don't recall anyone saying Psychonauts 2 feels unfinished.
>>742276063Yep. That’s CEOs for you.They’re there to do the shareholders dirty work, which is also why they keep getting hired even after their "failures."
>>742276236It's moreso Xbox screwed the pooch really hard with the aggressive studio purchases to try and save itself. Part of that included dipping into normal Microsoft money where they wiped out an entire financial quarter *for the whole of Microsoft* with the purchase of Activision-Blizzard-King, something that put them on the radar for both executives and shareholders within the company and put them under enormous scrutiny. "Xbox's entire existence is a rounding error on Microsoft's financials" was never a joke, they were so low on the company's managerial priority list that they did effectively have autonomy and were careful to have their spending smuggled in under other branches. So not only do they not have anything to show for their hail mary, they put themselves on death row for the company's executives and funded the golden parachutes of a lot of cancerous executives like Bobby Kotick. The only good news is that they're most likely going to take a lot of cancerous studios like ABK and Bethesda down with them, provided those studios don't pry their slave collars off before closure.
>>742276390just because you're too dumb to understand it doesn't make it not true.
>>742276471A developer studio literally not being allowed to develop and getting punished for doing it successfully like Hi-Fi Rush and Tango Gameworks is not the same thing as the developers being lazy with a free Microsoft check you fucking apologist
Making Gears E Day exclusive and removing the PS5 port sure seems short sighted now.
>>742276331I think it's more people laughing at them for continuously making terrible decisions for the last 12+ years
>>742274514RIP Rare.1985-2026.
>>742276479The interns are underutilized and the ending comes out of nowhere. People definitely say it's unfinished. also making the major plot that Pyschonauts leaves off on and sets of 2 to a VR exclusive game was a super dick move.
>>742276623>Hifi rush>Successful It's a $40 game with no players. Not sure why you guys keep pretending it was some blockbuster success.
It's not even hard to guess>Red = confirmed closing or already had mass layoffs>Yellow = likely getting announced closure tomorrow
The occurrence is upon us.
>>742276778I wonder why a population counter for a single-player game would be a bootlicker for Microsoft's cancerous hiring-firing practices.
>>742274514I hope and of 4chan past present and future hopes that Blizzard is the one hit hard by the layoffs.
>>742276623The issue is that barely anyone played Hi-Fi Rush. Even as a gamepass game it barely passed the 3 mil mark. I remember when games like Dishonored 2 were getting trashed for flopping for only doing 2.5 mil back in 2016. This after Evil Within 1/2 both flopped.the only game Tango made that did was was Ghostwire, which managed to eventually crawl to like 6 mil players.
>>742276792If you told 10 year old me I'd live to see Rare die in my lifetime I'd say you're nuts.
>>742276792Where's the yellow?
>>742276742PLEASEGODYES
>>742275917>acting like she's driving the company while the board makes the real changes
>>742275670They refused to develop The Elder Scrolls 6 for more than ten years, and more than six by any acceptable metric.They deserve that.
>>742276845>you may live to see /v/'s mods, some of WoW's biggest bootlickers, eat the biggest crow of their entire lives
>>742276792Only Arkane US branch closed down, the main branch from France is still ongoing and making games
>>742276778hifi rush was shit and it was always shit. people will literally just go play jet grind radio instead>>742276841The only thing "cancerous" are these leech developers who only make shit.
>>742276240100 minimum. Look at the scope of mid 7th gen for reference. Late 8th gen and 9th is just bloated teams + outsourcings.
>>742276847You seem to be operating under the misguided idea that Hi-Fi Rush was a AAA budgeted game that needed tens or hundreds of millions of copies sold, or that it's a service game and needs hundreds of thousands of concurrent players paying into it, for it to have been a success.
>>742276939Microsoft knows of the colege debts at irvine and the real estate debt, they are FUCKED.
>>742277060the bad decisions of companies has no bearing on reality.
It's time to admit that Game Pass was a mistake. It's conditioned Xbox users not to buy games.
>>742277083Hi fi rush was fuckin gay as hell, wasn't a hit, and I'm not sure why you're defending it.
did it ever occur to anyone that there is simply TOO MANY FUCKING GAMES?!20k games comes out on Steam each year, just Steam alone.there are too many games and not enough paypigs to go around.
>>742276236Phil spent billions on studios and R&D into Helix and MS would rather use that cash on AI and Data Centers.Microsoft legit blames Xbox for co-pilot failing.
>>742276845WoW shutting down would be the best gift to gaming possible, plus imagine the 1000's of suicides. >>742277169Suits are jewish by default because it's all about short term gainz.
>>742277083Yes, that's what Microsoft thinks.
>>742277225>it was fukkin gay and it failed because I say soI accept your concession, but also Hi-Fi Rush was brought up as an example of Xbox punishing a studio that successfully released a game despite Microsoft's explicit attempts to kill it. It generated a good amount of sales and Game Pass downloads, especially respective to its team size and development budget. Microsoft responded by killing the studio and then announcing in interviews that they were trying to cultivate many small studios and the talent therein, completely contrary to what they had just done.
>>742274514vibes based NPC leadership, AI made software stinky, have to shut it all down and regret it later like they did with "netflix of gaming" when single player AAA was stinky.
>>742277335They don't think that. They were going to kill Tango Gameworks no matter how it performed. There was no sales metric they could have ever reached that would have made their owners leave them alone.
>>742276623Hi-Fi Rush sequel is never happening.
>>742276742lmao, rare died decades ago
>>742277343>good amount of salesIt couldn't crack 7k concurrent players on Steam. Unless the Xbots really, really fucking loved that gay little turd (which I doubt since it doesn't have a ball or a gun in it) it's just some games journalism boosted slop.
>>742277296Pirate mentality, you feel you're required and entitled to play every game.
>>742277505Concurrent Steam players have nothing to do with sales figures you bloated dipshit. Get out of Famitsu threads.
>>742277171I have coworkers play the most garbage games from because of Xbox GP. Games that flopped so fucking hard too. Listening to them talk about games is hurting my head.
>>742277171Microsoft's most successful business venture with Xbox is establishing its subscription models. They overshot CoD's value against its cost, but otherwise Game Pass is likely operating as intended.
>>742277704Game Pass is wildly unprofitable and never has been profitable
>>742274514how hard is to grab the gorillion studios you own and make games exclusive for your console?I'm not a jew so can some superior 4d mind help me understand this?
>>742274789> YOU DID THISBut I didn’t do anything.
>>742274514Embracer was 8k.
>>742277817They're supposedly announcing all third-party games are being removed from GP since they can't afford to keep paying for the licenses.
>>742276471Then go buy Indie games. There are thousands of them on Steam right now.
>>742277838The Crash is inevitable,GTA6 accelerated the process and the prostitutes known as video game media and paid shills are spreading dame control rn over the game selling billions.Also pedowood is fucked too, too many box office bombs with zero returns, and Nolan's odyssey will be the straw that broke the camel's back.
>>742277817>https://wccftech.com/xbox-game-pass-profitable-business-good-creators/>Last fiscal year, Xbox Game Pass sales reached a record high of $5 billion.It's almost certainly what's keeping the ship afloat.
>>742278180just scale down, turn them into aa studios and for the love of god, release shitI would recommend cock and ball torture for todd but he will enjoy it
>>742277838Well you see anon there's this thing called AI and it makes a lot more money than video games, MS would rather use their money on AI than video games, but Phil locked them into an astronomical amount of spending on games.
>>742276957>Arkaneyeah about that.
>>742278332wtf, I love phil now?
>>742274514Tech companies putting a woman in charge right before commencing a hackjob so she cops all the blame is a time-tested tradition.
>>742278160Third party licensing are cheaper than developing their own games.
>>742275953Double Fine was about to go bankrupt and sold itself to Microsoft to be able to finish Psychonauts 2. It also took them a little over 2 years after acquisition to ship the game.
>>742277334yeah, only solution is to build private companies devoid of them.
>>742274839They will come crawling back to gamers when the AI bubble pops. Konami already did. The reckoning is coming.
>>742278347What are the odds of Sony getting the licence for Blade? They're on good terms with Disney right now.
>>742274839Gaben going to buy Xbox for pennies and port old 360 games to pc. Trust the plan
>>742275917Sacrificial CEOs are not a new thing, they get brought in after the MBAs eat the carcass from the inside out. Her job is to shut down the company and sell it off to the Saudis or Musk.
>>742276390True, indie devs like sandfall needed 30 devs to make a goty.
The meritocracy of video games is emerging. No more free ride multimillion dollar pet projects for an audience of hundreds (The developers and their Californian friends). You either make games that people want and will pay for, or you die. Simple as.
>>742278505I dunno, they don't have any studios worth a damn to make it either. hopefully they just don't. One less nigger on a video game box is a-okay with me.
>>742275963Anon they bought all of these studios at the height of the being black and/or female is what gets you a vidya dev job thing. The only thing standing in these studios way of developing games was their own HR departments.
>>742275670>buy studio to make more Skyrims>they spend a decade doing everything but that>it gets so bad that Microsoft has to outsource someone else to make a remake of a Skyrim prequellol
>>742278720they only bought them because vanguard/blackrock funnels money directly into your company for making niggerfaggot games.
>>742278228It was Phil Spencer's plan to crutch on Game Pass and it failed miserably, they're getting rid of all third-party games because they can't afford the licenses and they're almost certainly sunsetting the entire publisher.Buying ABK put Microsoft $75 billion in the hole. They are not turning a profit right now and have not been for a very long time anon.
>>742278505Pretty good Blade is already in Toukon and Disney previously had 2 Black Panther games in development by different studios
>>742278306Bethesda's issues were inherited from when the old board under ernest del, altman, trump's brother and the main culprit being Providence Equity were in control, the later being the one who gave "money" for all of Bethesda's or zenimax projects in general, also the contracts which microsoft per acquisition were forced to fulfil, in this case providence equity hiring jeets and frogs to work on starfield, redfall and the other DEI garbage the DNC told them to fund.Also trump's brother saved the company by backstabbing everyone, because god forbid how fallout, doom tes, or even quake would be under the tranny dictatorship of sony santa monica, since the deal was in the works.
all you PC-only fattys had to do was redeem the bloody Game Pass and this wouldn’t have happend, I hope Gaben sells Steam to Microsoft when he passes, I hate you fucking Snoy Tendie bastard bitches
>what should happen:Xbox finds small teams of no more than 30 devs, working remote so the pay is no more than 60k, sorry CA devs. Strict milestones, 2 year turnaround. 10 million per project. Fund many of these at a time so at least a couple of them hit.>what will happen:No funding of games outside of CoD and ESVI. Microsoft pockets the rest to gamble on datacenters.
>>742278509Valve buying Xbox would make me laugh my fucking head off, but I don't think they'd do that without doing a lot of anti-Microsoft ethnic cleansing of everyone in charge there. It'd probably be a situation like The Onion buying Infowars where it's not recognizable as the same entity at all (chiefly because Valve wouldn't have them on a revolving door of hiring/firing and they could actually put out a video game once in a while)
>>742274514>Xbox is going to be supremely unpopular for a very long time and the devastation is going to reverberate like the meteor that took out the dinosaursWhy? Because some programmers from bloated staffs got fired? I don't give a fuck. I'm not capable of naming a single person working for Xbox, not even that new jeet chick president. If someone responds to this post saying that girl isn't a jeet, I couldn't even argue that because I care so little that I'm not even sure about that
>>742279159Blade having the Muramasa sword in Tokon instead of Wolverine tickles me, Marvel constantly flirting with Wolverine being a samurai is peak 80s-90s rule-of-cool for a character it's not suited toAlso the samurai jinbaori and oni shoulderpads to make Blade a samurai while still affecting the look of his trenchcoat is actual peak design
>>742278968Funny to think for $1bn a game they could have just bought timed exclusivity for COD, thus achieving basically what they wanted originally without putting the company in the red and going through a long court process where they're now legally obliged to put COD on PS5/Switch 2.
has Timdog commented on this yet?
>>742276778Dude game was on gaypass day 1. 99% players played it there
No way they're killing id just because of Doom TDA right? They managed to survive the 2000-2016 with just Doom 3, Rage and Doom 4 being in dev hell.
>>742278968They probably made that money back with Candy Crush alone
>>742276792Rip Forza Motorsport it was nice knowing you. We will never get pc ports of their old games now.
>>742279417Feel like Embracer Group would happily welcome Doom into their portfolio.
>>742275953Lying sack of shit lmao. Microsoft let them take their sweet ass time and they added boss fights to the game. After shipping they refused to make 3 and just worked on Xbox Live Arcade tier crap no one wanted for 5 fucking years. They deserve to get shut down.
Total Goyim Death
>>742276097>Xbox suddenly surprisingly starts getting popular againYou misunderstood, anon. This is what I was excited for. Consequences imposed on dogshit studios and the useless retards within them.
>>742274514PS5 has no gamesXbox has no employees
>>742276792I applied to work at Sledgehammer earlier in the year. After 5 interviews and a couple of months later they said the role was no longer needed after the management changeup. Does sound like they are going to lose some employees this year.
>>742279013Also Age of Empires and MSFS.Mechwarrior is perma outsourced to PGI unless Microprose reaches MS and PGI about remastering Mech1-3 and Mechcommander >>742279417Microsoft isnt killing id retards, Who made this false claim wants idtech gone, and bullshitter reeks of curryue5 shit.Also Quakecon is cheaper than Blizzcon and MS pretty much became honored clients at Gaylord resort hotel.
>>742278827I still can't phantom why they would even buy a studio in the first place to just leave the studio be and not order them to do anything. They literally could have said " Star what? I own you, I am the boss, start doing TesVI NOW."
Imagine they kill the WoW gay department.
>>742274514These are the studios allegedly being gutted. Do these look like successful productive businesses?
>>742279757Pretty sure all those Activisions except IW are getting gutted. Treyarch probably completely given the CEO left recently.
>>742279956Steam charts only show part of the story. How many people are playing those games on Xbox or the Windows Store?
>>742279956Gamepass was so toxic they had to remove CoD from it because sales were down by a lot. Not saying these games would have sold at all but gamepass is a death sentence.
>>742279928their desperation to chase down pservers recently has shown that things arent looking good for the last titan or their shitty v+ project.
all they had to do was stop porting games to PC, scrap Day One releases on Gamepass and light a fire under Todds ass to make TESVI and make it a console exclusive and this wouldn’t have happened and Sony would be deadfucking idorts
>>742279956Those are the already confirmed ones. Apocalypse Part 2 is coming up.
>>742279417TDA was the first Doom game that was made with microsoft ownership I think so probably not. id also has active Quake and Rage titles additionally.
>>742280075Gotta be at least 10 whole people
>>742275670Skyrim is the SEVENTH (7th) BEST SELLING GAME OF *ALL TIME*, IN FIFTY (50) YEARS OF VIDEOGAME HISTORY AND INDUSTRY. Todd thought it'd be a good idea to wait (read: waste) FIFTEEN (15) YEARS with the likes of Fallout 4, Fallout 76, Elder Scrolls Legends, Elder Scrolls Blades, fucking STARFIELD, and the like. Bethesda *deserves* getting fucking gutted.
Why are xbox the bad guys when these guys cannot deliver good games in a timely manner? Studios should be pumping out good games every few years.
>>742278968The pants-on-head "acquire everyone and do nothing" approach is a different topic entirely.
>>742279682every one of you sniveling middle-manager roleplayers that thinks a studio is allowed to do literally nothing after acquisition, and that xbox isn't a worst-case customer for your studio because they WILL kill you l, should be dragged into the street and shot
>>742280075Yeah dude, I'm sure they're hiding the millions of hifi rush and south of midnight sales behind the windows store. Makes perfect sense.
>>742280121console exclusive faggotry is how this shitshow began in first place, and snoy is the culprit of this by gimping games at hardware level since the ps3.
>>742280301you gotta understand, they actually sold AMAZINGLY well. they're just all being fired because Microsoft is EVIL!
>>742280112Gamepass could only work if Microsoft managed to eleminate the competence get a massive amount of subscribers and then rise the price to whatever they wanted since there wouldnt be alternativesThankfully they are as incompetent as they are evil
>>742280301What is with this strawman that it was a mega blockbuster, nobody said that shit
>>742280259Xbox paid a lot of money to steer the ships and still ended up sinking most of them.
>>742280121This was the death of Xbox for me. I didn't get an Xbone because I had a PC. Then I never bought a full priced game from Microsoft ever again. They just needed to make Scalebound and have it be exclusive.
>>742280259Microsoft's hands off approach caused this issue in the first place. They should be telling studios what to make and when they should be coming out.
>>742280364>IT'S ONLY HALF THE STORY MAN, *SOB*>yeah prolly not>WHAT QUIT STRAWMANNING!stop it retard.
>>742280263Oh anon, I don't think they've been doing nothing. I think they've been hard at work making dogshit of their own volition and I personally will enjoy seeing their tearful exodus.
>>742278464>when the AI bubble popsTWO WEEKSWOWEEKS
>>742280446Konami caught flack for firing Kojima but at least they got MGS5 out ultimately without funding more of his dinner parties in LA.
>>742280446What the fuck, hands off? Are you kidding? Microsoft does nothing but meddle with all their studios. Literally all companies under this one specific publisher just so happen to be lazy?
>>742274834Why?Why do you care this board is a dumpster fire anyway.
>>742280364>Hifi rush was an ultra successful game whose studio was unjustly let go because Microsoft is evil>Why are people claiming Hifi Rush got a million sales? No one ever said thatLmao. You gamedevbootlickers are so intellectually dishonest.
>>742279924Ehh not quite, Avellone said it best: Bethesda didn't need to sell, they chose to. That means they got to make demands in their contract, and we actually know from an internal Microsoft memo leaked a couple weeks ago that one such demand was more or less akin to "as long as we deliver we'll mostly keep our autonomy and our way of doi things". Todd and the boys surely sold Starfield to Phil and co. as the new Skyrim, the new Fallout 4. The only reason we know of the leaked email is precisely because the "we get to do more or less what we want as long as Starfield delivers X" clause was cancelled as it turns out Starfield did not, in fact, deliver X. Under delivering finally caused Microsoft to step in and have an actual hand in managing Bethesda instead of letting them do whatever they want for 8 years.
>>742280504Strawmanning is when you argue against some shit nobody said, which people arguing about Hi-Fi Rush and whether it sold a kajillion copies are doing. Nobody said that.
>>742280504>>742280623How did HFR mindbreak people this hard?
>>742280540The investor money does run out eventually. We went through this same song and dance with gamepass. >Microsoft has a trillion dollars of course they don't care about what the studios make!No, investors get impatient if there isn't a good ROI in sight. It takes them a while though. They got sick of gamepass eventually.
>>742276259>I-ITS MICROSOFTS FAULT THE DEVS ARE LAZY ENTITLED FREAKSlol, keep malding on your way to flip burgers
My sexy pajeeta has it under control you need to remove all the dead weight troons and fags from xbox dev teams and cut off the teams that are too infected like a dying limb
>>742280729>only 2 arms on the let side.jesus this is piss poor even for AI
>>742276147>give everyones new game away for almost nothing on subscription service>devs that arent morons say no>service is filled with garbage shovelware no one cares aboutHow could this fail?
>>742280670It seems they read the word "success" and started frantically arguing it didn't sell infinity billion copies so it wasn't a success and the studio deserved closure. They're roleplaying as shareholders or managers basically
>>742280801It's a good point though. I wonder what will even be left. Just Blizzavision and Bethesda/ID?
>>742280809It's supposed to be 4 arms for shiva you mongoloid. I tried but. This is best I was willing to invest my time into.
The studios that are being shut down are dead weight. Even if they shutdown 5+ studios, there have been larger layoffs. This "news" cycle is hilarious. Even Jason the Jew got outdated as trying to stir up shit. The poor developerment companies that got hundreds of millions of dollars to make bad short games with no replay value are being shut down. Xbox will close in 2 more weeks, allegedly, reportedly, from my internal source who used to sell girl scout cookies to Matt Booty
>>742280865>and the studio deserved closure.It does. the game is shit, and it sold like shit, and the team sucks ass.
>>742280259Because snoys and kikegoymin journo media are syill asspained for nearly 10 years by now over MS buying bethesda.Bonus for bethesda blacklisting schreier and his goys off their company and becoming paranoid in process over employees leaking shit, the fallout 4 oone being notorious for they had to rewrite shit on top of the game being so shit to run on the garbage that was the ps4 hardware that some of fo4's known visual bugs like low res textures are traced back to bethesda working on pbr and dynamic resolution, but leaving unfinished because the game after the leak went through hell.Also, the obvious fact that todd and the main branch obviously hates sony for the shitshow that was skyrim on the ps3 as obsidian having headaches over New Vegas on the ps3 crippling the Fucking game in general for the other platforms.
Not as many layoffs as Sony doe
>>742280630Is that why there was constant negative shilling against Starfield for like half a year? Microsoft wanted to cancel a clause with Bethesda? Not saying Starfield was perfect on release.
>>742276321Obvious shilling campaign you fucking retard
>>742274514>>742275934Broussard is a known bullshitter almost on the same level as David Jaffe so I dunno why everyone is taking his word for anything.
>>742280962>Xbox will close in 2 more weeks,Just let us dream in fantasy land for a while. Think how nice it would be if this shit just STOPPED wholesale, for 5 years.
>>742280962All of their studios are dead weight? Even Bethesda is getting layoffs.
>>742276792>anon thinks green circles are yellowanon... its time to get tested for protanopia
>>742280893Mojang and Playground are the only Xbox-side ones staying unphased.
>>742274789Holly shit, I'm fucking BASED
>>742275917Crashing this studio...
>>742275917This is the endgame. She has no idea about gaming industry, she is there precisely to shut down Xbox.
>>742280801I am actually very curious if she will have a major change in dev style because so many pajeetas i have worked with have been more anti feminist ideals, i wouldn't say conservative but they liked sexy characters and strong men
>>742277225Hi-Fi Rush was utter ludokino.
>>742274514Nah. Gamers are retarded cattle. They'll be mad for a week then Xbox will announce a new season for Modern Warfare and they'll go "ayo this shit look bussin fr fr on god no cap"
>>742280968Tango got bait and switched. There's no way that Microsoft expected studios to sell games at full price when they are on gamepass day one. The success metrics were subscribers and awards before they started panicking after the ABK purchase. Doublefine would never release a gamee like Keeper if they thought they needed to sell units.
>>742281017Starfield was just a below average game that got dicksucked by the journo cliques and presented as the next Skyrim. It was shit, so people made fun of it, which is why you saw posts of people making fun of it.>Jamie, bring up a picture of the adult dance club in Starfield
>>742274789But I did nothing
>>742280208I think they know, on some level, that they can’t do it. "Modern design sensibilities" make such a feat impossible.
>>742281153>No, Master Chief, they expect one of us in the wreckage,
>>742280893whatever happens i have complete faith in her
>>742281083correct.
>>742274789I did nothing. I have never purchased a single product associated with Xbox in my life.
>>742274514they are not simply firing people they are replacing them with more jeets and a bit of AI
>>742281207ummm no *hnawk* ackchully it was shit and they didn't shell well
>>742279093they'll be super unpopular on resetera and bluesky and no one else will care
>>742281178Hifi Rush was fucking gay dude. There's a reason it sold like shit.
>>742275670this might actually be good for themthey might start producing shit again
>>742280020all of activisions studios except for blizzard and the king related ones exist solely for cod support roles so most of them will probably survive
>>742281017There is also the fact that sony and actibliz also wanted to fuck over bethesda for petty reasons to push their failed killers too, the later whom was cancelled after the terror tactics they did against 76 because "it would fail like ghost, and finlay is le hechin chud and kerrigan wss right u bigot"
>>742281197Normalfags are turning on COD. Warzone players counts have plummeted. Everyone is sick of the ugly goofy cartoon AI slop skins they've been throwing in the games these last few years. Any hype for MW4 is eclipsed by GTA6.
>>742278525>Saudis They blowed thiers petrodollars on fucking EaA>or MuskMaybe
>>742281197The retarded cattle will be mad for a week because they're dumbfuck leftoids who think corporations owe them high paying jobs.The rest of us won't give a fuck.
>>742281197Why gamers should cara if shit deve got layed off?
>>742275917Replacing the last remaining competent people with shitskin jeets
I hope those affected never find work again
>>742281062Apogee wants zero interactions with his fat ass
>>742281207nobody has fucking gamepass. that's why xbox is closing studios. crying "Gamepass" isn't the win you think it is.
>>742281419ea and snk (lol)
>>742281396Black Ops 7 flopped so hard they will almost definitely kill it off, which kills off half of the studios at least.In fact, Modern Warfare is all that will probably live on.
>>7422812073 million installs, which includes sales, when there was 25 million subscribers is meh. The next question is how long those people played for.
>>742281396hey, claiming ravensoft is closing is wild. they're a big part of the cod machine
>>742281409Where are those gamers going, though? Vidya is zero sum, what games are they moving to if CoD is getting dumped?
>>742280208>Skyrim is the SEVENTH (7th) BEST SELLING GAME OF *ALL TIME*You sure about that?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games>Another sales issue involves The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, which game director Todd Howard claims has sold over 60 million copies, is deemed contentious due to Howard's history of making exaggerated statements about his games for promotional purposes.
>>742281505They aren't replacing anyone, memelord-kun. Closure means closure. Layoff means layoff. Not great replacement theory
>>742281526because they stopped with the perpetual $1 resub. Gamepass was always a doomed concept but Microsoft thought they could brute force it with money. Sony had PSNow before Gamepass and they said it was a stupid idea to give your games away for free.
>>742274514Eh this shit was long overdue>State of Decay 2 came out in 2018, it is now 2026>Initiative kept imploding, never got off the ground, Crystal Dynamics put together a vertical slice of Perfect Dark that went nowhere and since Joanna and Lara Croft share their latest VA they probably just had her voice actress doing some stuff on the backend>Compulsion Games put out We Happy Few in 2018 and then took 7 fucking years to put out South of Midnight>Double Fine put out Psychonauts 2 in 2021 and then just made two games for basically nobody(and I liked Keeper, mind you)>Ninja Theory took forever to put out Hellblade 2 and burned time and money on that one multiplayer game nobody remembersIt sounds fine in theory but "atelier of artisans doing whatever the fuck they feel like on no real schedule" and "gigantic AAA superpublisher that also needs billions of dollars to waste on AI" is not reconcilable. Game pass or not a lot of these just were straight up not catering to an audience that were gonna move metrics.If they were like Obsidian and shat out a game every 1-2 years the story would be different. As it is a lot of these guys were running like indie studios but spending AAA money for a niche audience.Let's be honest, any sane company would be shutting these guys down years ago and maybe folding the valuable employees in somewhere else. Xbox on the terms of their acquisition was very hands off in letting them make what they wanted and they had nothing to show for it. This shit is just performative outrage, none of you faggots gave a shit about these studios or their games until it became social media engagement fodder.
I demand more layoffs
>>742281409Even Normalfags are sick of GTA6 too because of politics, or that the pricing is so fucking retarded over the hellhole of inflation the world is right now that they rather support indies or old games and remasters.The only prople who will shill gta6 or mw4 will be the known suspects who owns apple shit and the "beautiful people"
>>742278827they bought them 3 years ago, not a decade.
Where do all of you retards come from that you truly believe Microsoft was cutting checks to do nothing and then closed them for doing nothing
>>742274789AI did this. Gaming is basically dead now thanks to it. We're going to see next gen consoles sell maybe a few million at max at their sky high prices and when there are less gamers to buy games it'll have a knock on effect on studios making those games. Only massive franchises like GTA, COD, elder scrolls, assassins creed and shit will do well. Small studios making new IP are pretty much dead.
>>742280630>Spending gazillions making a completely new uncertain game instead of releasing the game fans were awaiting for more than a decade alreadyIts funny that these studios likely wouldn't calmly take such big risks if they weren't sold, this happened to every studio xbox acquired, the given autonomy, infinite ms money and lack of higher up orders to focus on making obviously profitable titles let the studios focus solely on their "artistic side" for 10 years, this all could be solved by putting a Chud exec supervisor overseeing every breath at every studio.
>>742281625Arc Raiders shook the market up. While I doubt people will stick with it long term, we only need something similar to come along to take that COD market away for good.
>>742281751I would've bought Perfect Dark. They took way too long to make it though. I guess building a studio from the ground up is not something Microsoft can do.
>if only 10% of indians bought an xbox...COME ON SAARS... BUY XBOX NOWMAKE XBOX GOOD. SAVE MADAM CEO
>>742281732those aren't comparable, though Games with Gold came 3 years after PS+ starting giving out free games.
>>742281943Indians are too occupied scared of letting the whatever the fuck is sealed at Vault B still sealed, same goes to rhe taj mahal sealed temple caverns.
>>742281972No I mean PSNow their streaming service. It was basically game rentals. I think Shawn Layden said it was not viable to put their studio's games there day one. The math didn't add up.
>>742281361>There's a reason it sold like shitYeah, it wasn't marketed at all and shadow dropped on Game Pass for "free". Not to mention sales ≠ quality.
>>742281863they're too fucking stupid to see reality so they just make up their own head cannon
>the great xbox reset begins >start off by cutting out dead games in development for almost a decade with nothing to showI love asha already
>>742274789Shit, I deserve a raise
>>742282086well, sony also can't create a network platform to save their life. PsNOW was a low bitrate laggy piece of shit. a very different thing as well.
>>742281637Pretty sure, yeah >quotes Wikipedia >unironically Anon...
>>742281808GTAVI will do Iron Man numbers despite being $100 because it's a game people desperately want. Microsoft let their big winners like COD rot and then funded slop like South of Midnight and HiFi Rush which have no actual player base.>>742282102Hifi Rush could not be saved by marketing. If anything putting that fucking art and cutscenes in front of people would have actually had less people get fooled into playing it from the "organic" push it had from the game journos.
>>742282102>he thinks people are actually subbing to gamepass>he blames microsoft for "muh ads"pathetic.
>>742282103It comes off as apologism for Microsoft that simultaneously paints it as planned incompetence, it's really dumb and contradictory and all for the purpose of shifting blame from Xbox without actually managing to do so
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>>742282160they didn't really make it. They bought it wholesale but yea I see what you are saying.
>>742275670Does Id count as Bethesda? Doom was doing Ok, right?
>>742281505I dont think so mein self loathing poojeet. Try Facebook for fear mongering.
>>742274514>no, I won't post the info I totally have but I will confirm after the fact that the studios closed were definitely on the list I never shared>people are going to absolutely hate the least popular console on the market for shedding all this dead weight impressive how in one post he shows the most annoying tendencies of every leaker and games journalist
>>742282215Holy shit we found himNeil NormieHe who holds a religious belief in GTA6's inevitable success and is put off by Hi-Fi Rush having an artstyle
>>742282284WHAT FUCKING DEAD WEIGHTEVEN BETHESDA IS GETTING LAYOFFS
>>742274514>Xbox is going to be supremely unpopular for a very long timeout of touch gen Xer thinks anyone knows or gives a rats about the CuckboxLMFAOthis shit has been dead for a decade at least
>>742282376The Starfield team deserve it
>>742282376>WHAT FUCKING DEAD WEIGHTBethesda. In a better world Todd and Emil would be execute live on twitch
>>742282376he didn't stutter faggot.
>>742282376Bethesda IS dead weight.
>>742282428This has less to do with Xbox hardware and more to do with all the studios they bought
>>742282225>game developed by Tango>Tango owned by Microsoft>game published by Bethesda>Bethesda owned by MicrosoftYeah, I'm gonna blame Microsoft for its lack of marketing alright.
>>742278347> we must make games about niggersWell, at least they chose a nigger that everyone liked because of the movie.
>>742282578you sure? it seems like you're still shilling for the game even today. why does microsoft need to buy ads?
>>742282376>WHAT FUCKING DEAD WEIGHTPic related, hopefully.
>>742282578>Marketing would've saved HiFi RushWell at least you retards are now admitting it was a failure. These are baby steps.
>>742282074If your temple doors are made of millenium old metal doors with snakes and nagas carved in it, it is obvious that dangerous shit is sealed there.
>>742282671>wtf you're talking about a game you liked in the games boardThe game's three years old and Tango is now owned by Krafton, the Microsoft shills can't hurt you anymore anon. I also hold TEW1 in my Top 10 games of all time, if that makes you seethe any more.
The good thing about this is xbox has nothing to lose. This gen was a write off. All signs point to them restructuring ahead of next gen. When sony makes their cuts/closures it'll hit much harder because they're in the spotlight at the moment. So it's clever thinking by xbox I can't lie.
>>742274514It's hilarious how much the Activision acquisition fucked over Xbox. Phil would still have his cushy job getting nothing done if it weren't for the acquisition.
>>742282215How many inches deep is rockstar's tranny cock in your throat you paid shill?
>>742282815this is the microsoft is dying thread. not the hi fag rush thread.
>>742282376Basically anything at Microsoft that isn't Actiblizz, maybe half of Bethesda, Mojang, and the Sea of Thieves team is dead weight at Microsoft. Their dead weight budget should only be spent on trying to save Halo and Gears at this point.
>>742282851Activision is the only profitable part of Xbox so he still wouldn't be out of the hot water
>>742282851it's really amazing the acquisition made blizzard even gayer than they were before. you wouldn't think it possible, but here we are.
>>742282745it was a day one shadowdrop for pennys on the dollar. That's anti-marketing if anything. Also marketing sells games before they exist. Look at how many people bought Cyberpunk. 10 million units pre-ordered before the game was found to be a buggy mess at launch.
>>742274514>sony vidya dying>microsoft vidya dyingfeels good to be a nintendovalvefag.
>>742282904You can keep seething all you want about it, then.
>>742282952Fable is already kill. what a shit show.
>>742283005Actishit isnt profitable and all their games bombed hard, and blizzard is full on debts.
>>742282851Has nothing to do with Activision. This probably would've happened regardless because the new ceo straight up said she's focusing on big IP now so all these small studios are surplus to requirements.
>>742283018>he's now comparing hifagrush to Cyberpunkthe depths these homos will sink to is unbearable.
>>742282901Keep crying about it lil tangocel. GTA6 will be a cultural smash hit while HiFi Rush is a forgotten quirk chungus beat em up.
>>742275917Look up what a glass cliff is.
>>742282261Dark Ages underperformed in sales, "3 million players" was Game Pass cope.
>>742282904And part of the reason people are happy for Microsoft's downfall is the way they've dealt with their past games, Hifi Rush included.
>>742283135you must not have been around here for Cyberpunk's launch. It was a massive shitshow. Didn't matter though because marketing saved the day just like it already did with GTAVI. That game could run at 10 fps and crash every hour and Rockstar would be making bank.
>>742283227making ray tracing required fucked it over even more, but i doubt it would have helped without it, the game is awful
>>742281540The chinks sold SNK?
>>742283229not me, I'm just happy those fags are out of a job. Time will prove me right. they deserve nothing.
>>742283292saudis bought a big chunk, they didn't sell
>>742281913Building studios from the ground up is basically impossible these days. Xbox is always under more scrutiny but look at how many studios Sony has done the exact same thing for.Yes for every Firewalk making a Concord and everybody waiting for Haven to die after its founders like Jade Raymond got their paychecks for Sony buying them and bailed out leaving Fairgamedollarsign to become the latest laughing stock, think about all the other live service studios they funded just to shut down. Fucking Jason Blundell, ex-COD director, had two fucking studios, Deviation and Dark Outlaw, that got started and shut down.At this point AAA higher-ups starting their own studio is basically just the video game equivalent of a San Francisco IPO marathon, just make something that looks good, get some retard at Sony or Xbox to pay for it, and then dip.Who is honestly the most recent notable new AAA developer that actually has delivered multiple games instead of being "from people in the general vicinity of the developers that made that game you like from the 90s" that ship one game and immediately shuts down, or isn't just a legacy IP skinwalker? Machine Games who were founded in 2009 after leaving Starbreeze and stayed in their wheelhouse by making another single player focused FPS in Wolfenstein?There's a reason Nintendo has been generally very acquisition-agnostic outside of "holy shit we really cannot lose these studios" like NLG being a recent first party acquisition, or is more content to run an IP feudal system with third party devs like Intelligent Systems with Fire Emblem, and generally just goes on big hiring sprees every year and is instead expanding their home offices. It's a much safer play to rope in talent on the ground floor than try to tape a gigantic beast to an even larger body.
>>742283283>Dragon Age failed because of Ray TracingThis thread do be stinking of resetera.
>>742283270No company in the history of FOREVER would market hi fi rush on the level of cyberpunk or Grand theft auto what fucking delusion mushrooms are you consuming?
I read the rumors and all the 5 studios rumored to be spun off or whatever are studios that are basically indie tier or don't make popular franchises.
>>742283372Doom: Dark ages you stupid fucking idiot.
>>742283389yeah but we're hoping for more.
>>742282376WHA-
>>742283372>retard moment
>>742283383It would have been nice if they had SOME marketing though. A shadow drop is not marketing. I'm just saying marketing works and Microsoft thought their gamepass games didn't need it for some reason.
>>742283270Nta, that's not marketing, that's inertia. Same as TLOU2 or Star Wars TLJ for a movie example. It makes money in the moment while burning reputation and future sales.
>>742276371This is photoshopped and fake. His real name is Schlomo Vile.
I keep telling people that having your studio management be former developers is a recipie for disaster, but no body listens.Go look at any job posting in the games industry for any position with responsibility for the last decade. You will see it over and over again.>5 years>10 years>participated in the development of 3 shipped gamesEct.That is the problem. You are letting the inmates run the asylum. Bring back cokehead business guys who dont know a thing about games but not a lot about making money.
>>742283572Cyberpunk had a ton of marketing lead up. That's how the inertia happened. It was months of showing off night city and all the promises they kept cutting.
>>742283450Doubt they'll close anymore. Seems like they're only keeping studios with notable franchises. I don't even know who the fuck compulsion games is or what games they've made. Ninja theory deserves to suffer for making shit movie games. Double fine are cool but they decided to make some shitty mobile shooting game rather than psychonauts 4 so they can get fucked.
>>742274514>Xbox is gonna be supremely unpopular for laying off the team that made them supremely unpopular
>>742275917to become my wife
MOOOOOOOOOOOORE
>>742283631Asha is not a game dev. She is just gutting the studios. In fact the correct business decision is to just kill Xbox.
>>742283640I'm more speaking to GTAVI. The marketing is almost trivial, almost nobody is on the fence on whether to buy GTA. But if it's bad, the consequences won't be felt until the next cycle.
I'm sure others have said this, but can someone give me a reason why should I feel sorry about any of these people losing their jobs? They've constantly talked down to their core fans, dumped down their games to appeal to retards, and now they're rightfully getting fired. My biggest hope is that Bethesda is hit the hardest from these layoffs.
>>742279924>phantom
>>742283871Because DECENT FUCKING PEOPLE don't celebrate people losing their jobs. This is a disgusting american practice that you don't see in civilized countries like Germany.
>>742274834More like ban social media
>>742283731The what? Never heard of this game
>>742283871Not everyone is on social media. Its too easy to just chalk everyone up to being blue haired freaks but some people just liked making games and didn't hang around twitter all day.
>>742283731They'll be fine given 007 did ok.
>>742283871
>>742283871Most of the decisions you loathe are done from the top-down, most of the gaming experiences you enjoy are built from the bottom-up, this will only lead to further enshittification and it's why we are here in the first place
>>742283871>They've constantly talked down to their core fans, dumped down their games to appeal to retards, and now they're rightfully getting fired.The people getting fired aren't talking to any fans. Most studios have strict rules about who gets to do the talking.
>>742284016The blue haired freaks vastly outnumber the people who like making games. A key reason why modern gaming is shit.
>>742275917>indianNot pooing in the loo
>>742283871>can someone give me a reason why should I feel sorry about any of these people losing their jobsNo, because you shouldn't. Appeal to empathy in this situation is a misdirect attempt on the actual gaping issues in industry. Devs are powerless formerly insulated cali wagies at best, and social justice morons completely out of step with their customers at worst. Several high profile figures in industry have stated explicitly that they hate you and resent having to appeal to you as a customer.Fuck em.
>>742284264Depends on the studio.
>>742283389The studios that Xbox are kicking to the curb are pretty obvious and expected. I'd guess industry insiders are screeching because the big studios are also going to get cuts, and have a lot more oversight and pressure going forward. It's an optics game where they want to drum up outrage to create a smokescreen and shield for themselves. They've been able to just do whatever they wanted the past decade due to Microsoft's infinite piggy bank, and that's going away because Microsoft can't justify subsidizing a 3% return on investment during the AI boom. Xbox has to stand on its own two feet going forward, and that's going to require cutting down operating costs to the bone and running the business like a business instead of a vibes-based tech industry.
Meanwhile, Toys4Bob got the fuck out and get to make Spyro/Crash games forever instead of being shut down like they proabably should have.
>>742284242Anon mentioned Bethesda specifically, who set the policy for their community managers to troll stram forums and tell negative reviewers that empty planets totally aren't boring. Yoi think they might fire those guys in addition to the CM lead? Or were they just goodbois following orders lol.
>>742275935>Are they preparing themselves to leave the gaming market or what?They've been floating that idea publicly. They got into consoles to "take over your living room", and consoles aren't needed anymore to do that. In fact they just get in the way. They tried to pivot and become the new Netflix, but that blew up in their face. At some point they have to ask themselves why are we still doing this?
Gamers don't need to be your audience.
>>742283731Yeah thankfully IOI themselves will probably be okay because both WoA and First Light have been money making machines, but it still sucks.>>742283979It's a new IP, it seems. Project Fantasy is a codename.
>>742284462that anon reeks of blizzdrone
>>742275971Western devs decided a while that they were done making games and were now going to "tell stories". Oh well.
>>742284143Arkane's last good game came out 9 years ago and its director, the founder of the fucking company and director of every other game before like Arx Fatalis, Dark Messiah, Dishonored 1 etc. left Arkane that same year.
>>742274514>the devastation is going to reverberate like the meteor that took out the dinosaursFirstly, Xbox doesnt mean shit. The brand wants to be PC 2.0, they fucking gave up.on consoles.Second, layoffs like these are routine as fuck, especially.in a company as large and cancerous as Microsoft (remember: extend, embrace, extinguish!) Gtfo with your sensationalism crap
>>742284229Was Veilguard shit because of EA heavily interfered with Its development? Was Starfield Soulless because Microsoft was breathing down Bethesda's neck? Was Machine Games forced by the higher ups to turn Wolfenstein into a Trump allegory tanking the series with it? Did the Saints Row reboot fail because the "corporate asshats" wanted to push an anti-capitalist message and defang the series? Want me to go on?
>343 will live through this
>>742284754I don't see Halo Remake selling well. Well enough to meet shareholder expectations, anyway.
>>742274514Go woke, go broke.
>>742274789Yes, yes I did, and I'd do it again too.:^)
yeah when Prey flopped that dude seemed so bummed that he just quit Arkanehe probably knew he'd be ordered to make slop like Deathloop or that cringe-ass vampire game (i forgot the name i just remember the vampire on the box art)
>>742274514It's Ashappening!
>>742282602What the fuck? This s terrorism.
>>742281207>Doublefine would never release a gamee like Keeper if they thought they needed to sell units.You don't know how retarded Doublefine is...
>>742284751100% this.At absolute most charitable this is a creative director and lackey problem, where the execs are permissive but clueless, where the grunts who could otherwise make a great game wont stand up to the non exec leads. Much like how the trans lead for Veilguard pushed for ideology through basically every narrative mechanic. But that doesn't fly when even grunts are out running cover for their shitty games.
>>742284831It's already been projected to sell millions in its first week by none other than Sony. And playstation isn't even the main platform for halo.
>>742274514Nobody gives a fuck about layoffs besides butthurt devs having to go work at mcdonalds, why would they be unpopular
>>742274514Pajeeta putting poo in the loo.
>>742284751Most of these are partially true yes>>742285173>the grunts who could otherwise make a great game wont stand up to the non exec leadsconfirmed for having no idea how gamedev (and software development in general) works
>According to The Verge, layoffs at Xbox Studios will begin next week and could lead to multiple studio closures. >Microsoft looking to sell, spin-off or close:>Arkane StudiosTheir own fault. They make games which don't sell. How do you have massively popular franchises like dishonored but then decide to make shit like deathloop and completely abandon the game which put you on the map. Sheer incompetence.>Compulsion GamesDon't care.>Ninja TheoryDon't care.>Double FineDon't care.>Undead LabsDon't care.
>>742285248It could happen. It's in the top 10 preorders on PSN at the moment, bearing in mind 3 of those are GTA6 editions.
>>742275917She’s unironically saving gaming. Xbox has been a net negative for the industry since the 360 days
>>742284751the point went completely over your head, do you think the people responsible for these decisions are getting laid off?
>>742284751Depends, when I worked on Gears Rod Fergusson was absolutely responsible for the woke push. He was giving us talks about diversity being key to the IP while half the devs were thinking what the fuck is he talking about.You could clean up most of this stuff by cycling out every AAA writing room and removing all the corporate leadership teams from that era.
>>742285278People love Todd
>>742285447State of decay was dope
>>742285413Gamedev studios are highly waterfall, anon. I know precisely how it works, most devs at studios are replaceable human automatons while the creative directors set direction and creative tone and work needs. But that doesn't shield the grunts from criticism for knowing that their overall product will be shit.
>>742285570It's pretty obvious xbox are going back to exclusives and they'll only make big AAA games going forward from brands like halo and gears and shit. The publisher strategy flopped hard. Halo is always guaranteed to sell even if its shit like halo 5 which sold fucking 10 million copies only on xbox one.
>>742278968Lol this, Phil went on an acquiring/spending spree for shit to fill up Game Pass and thought that if the studios were just left to their own devices and did their own thing that it would all end up working out. Complete negligence from both Phil and Microsoft
>>742275917Female managers are typically put in charge when the company is about to lay off everyoneWhen you want results you hire a manWhen you want a hateable scapegoat you hire a woman
>>742285787Some things just have hierarchies. I think we should get the fuck out of Iran right now instead of spending 1.5 trillion dollars per year in military contracts but what can I as one person do? A grunt isn't going to change the decision makers opinions all the time.
>>742285787you are assuming they don't know they are working on decadent, mostly crappy products where they have close to nil decision power (unless they do some real organizing work), at the end of the day those grunts and their families need to eat TODAY even if they think the saints row or whatever they are working on will be an absolute flop when it releases
>>742275917Same as every other jeet CEO:>mass layoffs>replace with H-1B jeet slaves who get paid 75% less>shareholders happy because line goes up
>>742274514>Asha Sharma was brought in to take all the heat off of the layoffsImagine my shock. They'll have a white guy in her position again before the end of the year.
>>742285951>>742286059If you need to eat today, and your method of procuring food is passively pissing into the pool of the industry, I'm not going to begrudge you your paycheck for work completed, but I'm also not going to pretend to mourn your job loss when your shit studio collapses in on itself.The reality is that any grunt who is worth a damn can make their own low budget indiengames and set their own direction, often with other like minded devs. If you've stayed because pay security, you've knowingly kept aboard the titanic.
All of this could have been avoided if they had just stopped raping Halo
>>742286196They've gotta wait for profit chart to be in the green first, PR her as the saviour of Xbox, and thus get promoted to an easy cushy job in the MS Office division for her troubles.
>>742286059>>742285787this, i'm sure most of those "grunts" you blame are actually more worried for the quality of whatever you're going to experience than the people directing them, that's generally what happens when you are the person actually doing the labor, without a backing organization they don't actually hold pretty much any sway over it anyways
