Bigger discounts attract lower quality buyers.
Factorio is so based for never reducing their price. If you don't want the game at its current price, then you don't want the game hard enough.
I actually started an essay a while back about steam sales screwed things up for the industry, but this is a new angle I hadn't considered lmao
>yet another shitty pokemon clone failedgood, maybe that'll teach retards to stop copying the most basic turnbased mechanics in existence
>>742289210That makes sense, actually. Price your products to be a retard filter.
>>742289210>Bigger discounts attract lower quality buyers.100% true.But they still get the money, so what are they crying about? "Oh no I tried to make more profits by selling my food to trailer trash and now my restaurant has all kind of garbage around it, how could this happen to me?"Sounds like wanting the cake and to eat it too.
The reality is the exact opposite of this tranny dev's delusionsThe best reviewed games on steam are the $0.50 shovelware like blood&bacon
>>742289210Translation: I made a worse pokemon clone and am butthurt when non-paypigs rightfully identify it as such
>>742290424Those types of meme shovelware games are specifically made for the retarded "lower quality buyers" in mind; poor example.
Another self report. He intentionally put up a big sale to reach THE WIDER AUDIENCE, and is now realizing that normal people think his game is shit and needs work.
>>742290643it's one example among many, the broader point is that the less someone pays for a game the more leeway they're likely to give it in a steam review generallythis dev's game is probably just not very good!
I'm getting a major sense of deja vu. >>742290648This post in particular is very familiar.
Pokemon clones, please stop copying the worst part of Pokeymans by making your core battles be 1v1. Pokemon can get away with it due to its popularity and legions of autists and furries willing to pay for it no matter what.
Opened steam to check the game and the negative reviews are mostly about the game being buggy.This dev is a retard
>>742289210Game devs are such snowflakes nowadays
>some random indie clone game isn't selling well>must be sales that are bad, not the game itselfhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>>742289210>indie dev crying and bitching about customers>not hurting sales
>>742289210He isn't wrong usually it does cause people to just Mass buy things that they end up either never playing or play for 2 minutes just because they bought it and then never finish it or engage with it in any meaningful way or someone who does pay full price probably was looking forward to the product
>>742289210>shitty game is a buggy mess>blame sales and "low quality buyers">doesn't blame self or try to fix bugsLMFAO
>>742289210>niggers could be here, the loli thought
>>742289210I seriously do not understand why indie devs don't get how shit works. Everything you do online is someone's first impression of you. If you're a dev, that's their first impression of your game too. All I know about this game is the dev being whiney. That's not gonna convert into a sale or me becoming a fan.
>>742291239but... he releases patches weekly!
Friendly reminder that the ones suing Valve due to Steam's unfair practices aren't direct competitors like Epic or Sony but indie developers.
>>742290941should I take offense to this, I just made that post on the toilet and now I'm getting offhandedly called an unoriginal poster
I bought both this and Yuumonsters because of this thread. Looking forward to trying them, even if they're not great
>>742293390fuck, Nuumonsters*
>>742291571with a randoseru you can go anywhere you want
>>742289210Sounds like mega cope but I kinda believe it for some reason
>>742289370its also based for making it so easy to pirate, mod pirated copies and play online multiplayer with modded pirated copies
>>742289210xe's right
>>742289210>people who are more discerning with there money are in fact more critical then a CONSOOMERIf anything it proves the opposite of what he says the problem is the media will spin it as he says since it pushes a consumer negative narrative peak useful idiot behavior.
>>742291286You're correct but not in the way you think.
>>742289210>more people buy a shitty game that isn't 100% their hyperfixation special interest genre>they review it lower because it is objectively bad>game dev seethes uncontrollablythe entitlement of these dev faggots is astounding
>>742289210>buy game>oooh I better finish it, I spent money on it. See, it's not so bad.>get it for free or dirt cheap>it's shit, didn't even finish it, just a worse copy of X and Y
>>742293940It doubles-down on the basedness when you factor in why they intentionally are keeping it that easy:they were fucked over by illegal key resellers using stolen credit cards, sued their asses, got repaid for it in damages claimed, and in the end still told people they'd rather you just pirate the game - which is intentionally kept dirt-simple - than offer money to scumbag grey-market key grifters.
>>742289210reminder that a big reason why AAA ended up pushing 70 and now 80 dollars as the new standard is because they knew so many people will wait for sales nowadays so they raised the price to get more from the people that do get it day 1.
>>742290648>>742290941>grannie makes her "famous" lasagna>grandkids tell her they love it>grannie uses her retirement to make a folksy family lasagna restaurant>bombs>WTF IS WITH THESE LOW QUALITY BUYERS
>>742289210>open game to more people>the larger group finds weakpoints in your shitty gamewoooowww how was he supposed to know?fuck anyone that agrees with this retarded take
>/v/eddit 2026: mindbroken into thinking sales are bad because a tweet said so
>>742296863It's just tendies trying to justify Nintendo selling nearly decade old games for $70.
>>742296998>suddenly nintendo out of nowhere?????
Terraria goes on sale for $2, everyone's played it and yet it's overwhelmingly positive. This dev is suffering a skill issue.
>>742295218I boughted terraria and warband for $1 eachstill the best buys I ever buyed
Never buy a game that has katakana in the logo.
>>742294756>Actionfag buys a 5/5 rated visual novel for $1 on a megasale>"Wtf is this? Where is the action? 1/5">Storyfag buys a 5/5 rated hypercompetitive fighting game for $1 on a megasale>"Wtf this this? This is way too hard. 1/5">Devs get 1/5 ratings from people who don't like the genre, who aren't the target audience, chiming in cause it was affordable
>>742297552Only the second case happens.
>>742289210aside from the fact this guy provided a product, he sounds just like dsp complaining that his fans arent paying for they "asked for"
>>742289370>cyberpunk2077>no mans sky>Manor lordsif the game isnt complete, why are they charging full price? manor lords is 40$ but hasnt been updated in nearly a year. no mans sky took years before it was worth even 30$, yet it was 60 on launch and even today its still 60. same with CP, in fact they went and charged 30 to finish the fucking game.
>>742297552>Actionfag buys a 5/5 rated visual novel for $1 on a megasale>Storyfag buys a 5/5 rated hypercompetitive fighting game for $1 on a megasaleThis almost never happens because both players know their own tastes and preferences enough to know they won't enjoy those games that are so far away from their personal preferences. The very rare ocassion this happens is due to the fans of said VN / fighting game being extremely obnoxious and outright lying about the game>"This fighting game is totally accessible to newcomers and has a 10/10 story!!!!!"
>>742289210Cool.*ignore this* Just like that Facotrio that never puts it on sale: Not my fucking problem.
>>742299052There was a funny Jupiter Hell moment where the devs had to change their store page video to explicitly say, "No, this is not a real-time topdown shooter. We were just playing fast for the video. Listen to this classical music and drink in the turn-based gameplay now that we're taking time between turns." It's not on the store page anymore, but I wish it was because it was funny.
>>742299771https://youtu.be/YY8hfy0GopQthere it went
>>742289210There must be dozens of Pokemon clones, he's lucky it's even selling.
>>742299715Also looking at the reviews, they're fair and this developer needs to stop whining.>Games buggy, if it gets fixed it could be a good love letter to the GBC era Pokemon>*DEV CHIMPS OUT AND REPLIES TO EACH. AND. EVERY. NEGATIVE. REVIEW.*Why are "women" developers like this?
>>742296262Nice. Saves me money.
>>742292652The One Who Consorts With Beasts isn’t really your typical indie dev.
>>742289210>That one guy screaming for months in P3 Reload threads begging for cracks and saying the game is shit anyways and he doesn't want to bother buying it.>MONTHS.At some point we have to address the fact actual children post here and they don't have jobs so they don't have money, just a lot of anger and envy.
>>742300131How do you know it was the same guy?
>>742289370>Factorio is so based for never reducing their price.I would have been fine with this, if only they hadn't INCREASED the price. Now I feel like I can never buy it because I missed it when it was cheap. Even if I buy the game right this very moment, I'd be getting an awful deal compared to the people who got it before me. So I just end up feeling scammed.
>>742299907It’s a trait common to many inexperienced usually creatives in general: any criticism of their work is interpreted as a personal attack.
You control the buttons you press.Literally just don't put it on sale you dumb fuck.
>>742289210It's not even wrong.Thanks to steam sales the entire hobby went from enthusiasts each with their own interests to a shitskin horde bitching they aren't getting games for free.
>game costs $20>give the game a 50% discount on a sale to sell it for $10But if I permanently lower the price so that the new full price is $10 to begin with. >game costs $10>give the game a 20% discount on a sale to sell it for $8The game will now sell like shit even though it's cheaper than before. Pricing is dumb. Consumers are dumb. This is retarded.
>>742289210This person is a huge faggot, as in the type of dev who troon-rages about every single bad review on Steam that hurts their fee-fees. However, they are not totally wrong. If you've ever worked in sales, the poorfag bargain hunters and the richfag elitists are the worst ends of the curve.
>>742289210sounds plausible, depending on the game. it does depend though, you could have a game that is broadly appealing such that it maintains or improves its rating as well even as it gets new people playing it from outside the core target audience. sometimes the core target audience are the most discerning and difficult to please
>>742300260nta but at this point this shithole is slow enough that you can easily mentally filter out the literal bots and you're left with like 50 regulars tops board-widespotting a few individual people across multiple threads is hardly any difficult now
>>742289210So basically when you get a larger audience you get reviews from more neutral and experienced gamers and less sycophants? I see.
>>742289210truke actually, if you're a PvP gamer you see this shit all the time. Massive phenomenon of people buying PvP or PvEvP-marketed games and then complaining that the game has PvP they weren't prepared for in. Without fail, these faggots claim the game will die without PvE, in many cases raising enough noise to convince the developers to change the direction of the game to suit the demands of its audience. Then those people solve the game not long after it becomes PvE-only and get bored with it, moving on to some new release to start the cycle over again, never realizing that they were the problem. GIT GUD YOU MONGOLOID FAGGOTS
>>742289210Was this a secret? Everyone understands that free to play games are fodder for the absolute bottom of the barrel lowest common denominator.
>>742289210they don't harm anything.ratings can't influence anything if you don't let them.you can simply ignore them.
>>742289210is this game lolikino? im looking at the steam page and that character in the OP image is nowhere to be seen
>>742290375>be low quality buyer>buy game for $1 and hate it because it isn't casual slop>review it negatively and get my money back>repeat
>>742299493World of Horror does the same thing.>um chud, we won't lower the price to 75% >Why? to buy more tranny meds (dev is a /agdq/ tranny
>>742290795People pirate games and still don't give them leeway so that's pure bullshit you made up!
>>742289370>>742293940Gotta love em
