Removing fast travel, or at least highly restricting it, would have saved elden ring
>Fully exploring every area makes you overleveled for most of the content.How do you deal with this problem without introducing level scaling?Decreasing runes would make the optional parts not so optional.
>>742291653Don't put levels in vigor
WHAT IF THIS ENORMOUS LANDSCAPE WAS REALLY FUCKING TEDIOUS TO GET AROUND IN AFTER ALREADY EXPLORING IT
Only if they made a fun way to traverse the land. Riding a horse is lame.
>>742291653I'd say Souls in general does it about as well as anything can by just having stats not really go crazy. The difference between min and max health is about 4x, and the difference between min and max in a damage scaling stat is maybe 1.7x. Compare that to a JRPG like FF7 where you start the game at 200-300 HP and end at 9999. By the time you're maybe a third of the way through a Souls game you've probably gained 80% of the actual power you're going to ever get, especially due to diminishing returns.
>>742291653You can explore and not murder.
>>742291653I think I only felt over-leveled for Morgott and Radahn (because they nerfed him). post-morgott was a difficulty spike that felt adequate for my level.
>>742291145I reached the Academy and quit soon after. Not even because it's hard, the game just feels like it wastes your time a lot. I saw the cancer field full of large poison flowers and insects and lost all interest to continue
>>742292082If they make a next game I wanna fly around like Lune in E33. Feels so good.
>>742291145I LUV Elden Rang so much bros its unreal fr
>>742294901fag33 is a shit game doughbeit
>>742295436It's no Elden Ring that's tru
>>742291145>NOOOO>You have to slowly trot around the map and add an extra 20 hours to your playthrough even though you've already been to these places!!!!!Go suckstart a shotgun you fucking retard.
>>742291993This. Never ended up doing a second playthrough because I could not be fucked to go through the world again. Didn't have this problem with the prior Souls games plus BB and Sekiro.
>>742291653Unironically just don't level up. Use the souls to buy materials, upgrades, items, weapons, spell>>742293858It's impossible to not be overleveled against Morgott because Leyndell's scaling is retarded. It assumes you skipped all the side content and went there immediately after getting two greatrunes but then mountaintop of the giants is scaled like an actual end-game area so the game expects you to go back and do the optional areas you skipped along the way.
i started a new playthrough where im doing everything, just got to leyndell and im already L120 with a +22 weapon
>>742295904Sounds like a (you) problem, Still had tons of fun doing my second playthrough and I only quit my third playthrough because I couldn't finish it before the DLC came out (which I also played through twice).Definitely not going to replay it 10+ times like DaS though, despite only doing 2 full playthroughs and 1 half-finished base game playthrough I still have 100 more hours of playtime on ER than I do for DaS
>>742291145sure, maybe with a few shortcuts too
>>742291145>saved elden ringuh?
>>742297221Maybe Shazamtrannies still think they won.
>>742293858>>742296364Leyndell/Caelid/Mt. Gelmir is the main place I felt the game was poorly designed progression wise. They all kind of feel like they are balanced around the same player level, meaning whichever one you do first is good but the next one you will be overleveled for and the final one extremely so, but as mentioned the Mountaintops zone then is a massive jump in scaling that clearly assumes you've done all three.
>>742298181Caelid is supposed to be done after Limgrave and possibly Liurnia.
>>742298181Vanilla Haligtree is the worst offender. It's so densely populated and I remember when I got there I was like 30 levels too weak but I just trucked through it through perseverance. There was also nothing else for me to do in the game and the difficulty spike was just INSANE like the game went from 0 to 60 without warning.
>>742291145It would have forced them to design the game in a way that wasnt a boring open world so you're kind of right.
>>742291145y'all really love pressing W, eh?
>>742298543>the area with endgame scaling is supposed to be your 2nd areaI mean, I do Caelid when I get all the shit I need from Limgrave but you are fucking stupid if you believe thats what from was expecting you to do
>>742298649Caelid does not have endgame scaling.
>>742292082flying on an eagle would work
>>742298680the 2nd area has the same scaling as farum azula
>>742291145Good way to ensure even fewer questlines get completed.
>>742291653Remove leveling. Attach stats to weapons.
>>742291145Mh no.
>>742291145>Removing fast travel, or at least highly restricting it, would have saved elden ringIt would've made the game worse, especially Elden Ring>Saved Elden RingFrom what?
>>742291145Torrent just isn't fast enough to make that manageable for something even as small as the Lands Between, so the next best thing is just scattering sites of grace all over so you never have to use him for too long. Imagine having only 1 or 3 sites of grace in Liurnia to fast travel to, it would take 5 whole minutes of looking at Torrent's ass just to get to most places in that area alone. The loot placement is also problematic. It's thin, and it's everywhere. The next From open world map needs to have concentrated loot areas and more barren areas with no loot if you don't want the player constantly backtracking in the same area for equipment. The Lands Between feel too crowded anyway, everything is squished too close to one another.
>>742295436it really is.
just remove the stupid RPG stats desu
