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Did you enjoy Ichibans game?
If not, why?
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>>742298218
I don't like turn based games.
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>>742298218
it was ok, there needed to be "advanced" classes and better/bigger/harder dungeons and encounters by the 2nd half though
it and Pirates in Hawaii are the only Yakuza games i've played without finishing so take that as you will
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>>742298218
>Bleach Japan, Geomijul, Chapter 13; Coin Locker Baby, turn-based (where you'll use the same 5 magic moves over and over), the True Millennium Tower grind
one Yakuza game i will definitely never, ever replay
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>>742298218
It was fun but I hate that the plot is so libtarded.
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>>742298218
I love all Yakuza games, even the ones where the plot is all retarded.
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>>742298218
It was okay at best but the gameplay was the most basic of basic JRPGs. Even NES games have more intricate gameplay mechanics and difficulty than it had.
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I'm enjoying it right now actually, but I still prefer action combat over Turn based
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>>742301596
Are the any where the plot isnt retarded?
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>>742303482
0, 5, and 7.
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>>742298218
7 had a good story but was probably the most boring gameplay around. 8 plays better but has a much worse story. shit's tough.
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>>742298218
7 was good. 8 was a massive disappointment
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>>742303626
5 kinda had retarded pacing decisions. There was no need for the prison section, Akiyama is the most pointless playable character in the story and Kiryu/Saejima deciding to fight each other just cause was stupid fan-service. Though the main bad guy was fucking cool and Makoto being a disappointment (story wise) is so good. Only retards missed the point there.
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After playing Yakuza 0 to Yakuza Like a Dragon
I can safely say that the worst enemy of the tojo clan is the tojo clan
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>>742303482

As someone who grew up watching soap operas all the stories were fucking amazing they are literally soap operas featuring yakuza
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>>742298218
7 was better than ∞
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>>742307659
>Most of the same people in the same group/organization can't stand each other more over opposing groups/organizations, and constantly infight with each other in hostile and debilitating ways.
Sad but true.
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>>742298218
His first game was kino.
"His" second game was so fucking bad holy shit just fire Yokoyama already and kill this franchise.
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>>742298218
7 was good until the coin locker twist
8 wouldve been good if kiryu died in the end
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>>742307929

Kiryu has "died" so many times across the games its not really gonna be impactful
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>>742307895
like a solid 1/4th of the game is good, and that's mostly all Kiryu's bucket list stuff. the rest is pretty bad
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>>742307659
It's more like every single issue can be pointed directly towards Nishiki being a retard and Daigo trying to right a ship from his retardation then getting everyone betraying him while he was doing so. Seriously, just look at how much nonsense Daigo had to put up with.
>Nishiki bankrupts the Tojo Clan in 1 because he's a dipshit.
>Tojo Clan is now about to be overtaken by the Omi until Kiryu arrives with Majima and Daigo to right that ship.
>Because Wesker was impatient now Mine is going full scorched earth on the Tojo Clan when he's their sole money line and Kashiwagi by random civvies' own admission had zero clue how to run it.
>Daigo, now having lost his sole monetary contributor, has to scramble away from bankruptcy when he was already having money issues during 3 and selling the orphanage would have saved them.
>Only person left making any money for the clan was Majima, and that wasn't even actual realized money but potential from opening Kamuro Hills.
>Basically bankrupt Daigo wants to do the Ueno Seiwa deal and Majima blueballs him, and then he has Akiyama's money to potentially save him after that but the entire 40+ year plot comes to bite him in the ass.
>Actually managed to turn around the Tojo Clan after that whole mess despite Saejima being in jail again and Kiryu lying during the ending of 4 to the point that they're actively recruiting more clans to expand into the Tojo Clan.
>Whoops, another multi-decade conspiracy bites him in the ass.
>Also managed to land him and the bozos in jail for multiple years.
>Then another betrayal from within happens with two separate people in 6.
>Then another betrayal in 7.
>Then the security firm collapses because, guess what, another betrayal.
It's honestly comical how the man can't catch a break. He's done basically everything he could to save the Tojo Clan time and time again and someone has to suddenly betray him out of nowhere with some 40 year keikaku.
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>>742307929
Kiryu has fake-out died in 4 out of 9 mainline games:
>Y2 (bomb)
>Y3 (Stabbed)
>Y5 (Bled out)
>Y6 (Bled out and PRONOUNCED DEAD)
Yakuza 8 made him effectively dead as Kiryu won't get any major story/combat relevance besides flashbacks (if RGG aren't complete retards).
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>>742308453
He can be a trainer for Ichiban or any future MC that comes after Ichiban by telling them stories about fights that give them revelations, but if he's playable in any way outside of some Amon Inner Fighter going into games machine simulator they're retarded. He's still in the hospital bed in 8G and that's a minimum of six months after 8.
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>>742308308
Nishiki wouldn't have been an issue if Kazuma (Foster father) looked out for him and his sister. The WHOLE reason why he goes full retard is because his sister died. Hell, if Dojima kept it in his pants then:
>he would have still been alive
>Kiryu (a top earner) would be actively helping the clan
>Nishiki would have been either able to help his sister or at least tard-wrangled into not fucking up the clan
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>>742308540
I get that but they can't really bring Kiryu back unless they change the way time passes by as each game is set in the year it is released. 8 has him dying of cancer to the point where he's basically skin and bones so if he lasts another 5 years then it would feel like they are REALLY milking him.
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>>742308728
Was Kiryu really a top earner? I feel like there's always this weird disparity between him making gazillions through side hussles in games, yet he's always flat broke in the main stories.
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>>742308917
People have gotten back from cancer before. Problem is with his advancing age, it would be really silly for him to return to peak form. I do think it's possible to squeeze just one more game out of him, but they have to retire him eventually.
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>>742309052
The entire reason why he's known as the "Dragon of Dojima" was because of how well he was at doing his job getting money from people. I think K1 also established how well he was doing financially compared to Nishiki which is why Kazama was going to give him a family starter package.
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>>742309052

being a top earner inside the tojo clan means all your money goes to them and after he "quits" well theres not so much he can while managing an orphanatory
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>>742309052
Well he was doing well enough that he was about to start a family and Majima seemed to respect him despite being older. Anyways the games aren't the best in tying narrative with gameplay.
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It's funny how it's never even so much as hinted at what Kiryu actually fucking did for the Tojo Clan aside from beating up debtors.
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>>742309106
Fair enough. Though if they do make him the protag again, it would overshadow all the other characters a bit too much.
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>>742309438
It's fine to overshadow everyone if you commit to making the game the true final hurrah, the absolute, definitive end to his saga.
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So far, yeah.
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>Proposes on the first date

Love this retard
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>>742298218
i liked it until the end where the game ran out of stuff to do and just started pointing to locations to grind. but i didn't hate that. good game. didn't play 8, i haven't heard a good thing about it and it sounds mid at best.
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>>742313241
The gameplay got a big upgrade in 8.
It's just the story that's the point of division.
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i liked it but
i don't get their obsession with romanticizing shit like prostitution and homelessness
its just a weird thing they focus on way too much. Whores and homeless are gross junkies, nobody should want to be like that.
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>>742313241
8's issues are entirely on its story, not the gameplay. The only fault the gameplay has at this point is them still nto having a proper EXP distribution because it still tries to do diminishing returns so you can't overlevel but certain enemies and substories outright ignore that and give you flat EXP or so much EXP the diminishing returns don't matter.



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