Dr. Andross, I'm Corneria.
>>742298361IT'S BILL!HEY BILL!
So was the Star Wolf fight on Venom easier than the 64 version or was I just a retarded underageb& all those years ago?
>>742300207It took you over 20 years to realize you're supposed to spam lasers instead of charged shots since they're programmed to barrel roll whenever you try to use those.
>>742300207both
>>742300302I last played it in 2013 and have not played it since until today
>>742299129Bill. Steep Bill.
>>742300302who the fuck ever fought star wolf with charged shots?
>>742300207Your companions are a bit less of a dead weight and may deal some chip damage to Star Wolf when they're not being chased but the fight itself is not noticeably different aside from the frame rate and controls being smoother.
>>742298361How is he so fucking cool?
>>74230020764 version is VERY easy once you understand what you're fighting.
>>742298361Someone enlighten me, how deep does this rabbithole go?
>>742304117They also skipped on a major important piece of Fox's motivation. He became a mercenary because he wanted justice for his father and thought that the Cornerian military was not taking the threat seriously enough, so he dropped out of the academy when he turned 18 and inherited his father's ship. And then, sure enough, Andross invaded the Lylat system and Star Fox was needed. In the remake he just wants money and kind of sleepwalks his way into pursuing Andross rather than being on a personal crusade of any kind.
>>742304117He's also jewish>kosher drink
>>742300207that fight is so rng dependentsometimes I win without tryingother times I get destroyedmost times I win but it takes forever
>>742300594every streamer ever
>>742305340I kept getting filtered on the N64 version but now I swept him even though I had fully upgraded lasers from Area 6Andross nearly killed me though.I also did the bad ending today and did not know that you had to fight a statue in a small corridor before fighting the false Andross
This game has only been out a few days and Star Fox threads somehow feel more dead than they did before Star Fox 2026 was even announced.
>>742304021Stolen game>>742304117>Marvel QuipsNothing wrong with those. You're just bitter you can't be that cool under pressure.>>742306981People are still playing it and don't want to deal with the bitter snoys and PC fags who shit up the threads.
>>742306981Its 64 again there isnt anything to discussthe adventures reimagining will be different
>>742307124Take your meds.
>>742307248A bunch of gullible twats were making an sharing fan theory videos because they actually thought there were going to be some earth-changing revelations in SF26 like James McCloud still being alive or some shit like that. There were some annoying changes they made but none of them deserved massive theorycrafting videos or anything like that.I liked the original Star Fox and how it hinted that James McCloud disappeared near a black hole. It's vague and mysterious enough that whatever you can imagine happened to James is more interesting than having it spelled out to the player. Having Pigma betray James is also a good story beat either combined with or independent of the black hole incident, but in any case, the way they showed Pigma's betrayal was not handled in an interesting or satisfying way. They basically borrowed one of the Order 66 deaths from Star Wars and did it in a less intense or dramatic way.A Fox In Space, a fan work, handled Pigma's betrayal in a much better way. And again, James' death is ambiguous, but whatever fate the imagination comes up with is way better than something as bland as "he probably got shot down but we don't know."
lol! https://youtu.be/7TBIyZA-ExA?is=zjERf2yWAO1NQbdu
>>742307624Im really really glad they didnt choose to make it so that James is alive holy shit
>>742307651Certified hood classic.
>>742304117I like new Fox morehe's kind of a shithead and I like itif they do more games then he has time to grow into old Foxbut for now he's 18, he's got a massive debt unless Pepper's pay out will cover the cost of the Great Fox, and he was a little tired of hearing stories about how cool James was from Peppybut then the game happens, he grows into a better leader and maybe he understands James a bit more.
Is there a recomp of 64 yet? I have a dire need to replay it.
>>742308390There are two of them
>>742299129Why do you keep calling me Bill?
>>742308237That sounds fine on paper but Nintendo only remakes Star Fox over and over so when is he supposed to have any growth?
>>742300207I think it was easier in 64. It's harder to just burst them down while they're somersaulting in the remake.
>>742298361I can't think of any clever ways to tie in CIA/Bane stuff beyond your initial post, OP.This is a hard one.
>>742308651Bill. Bill. Bill. Why do we keep getting Bill's missions?
>>742298361>>742299129https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiuO_Z2_AD4
>>742298361>>742309116>"You've got a big brain.">"For you."
>>742300207They definitely rape your teammates quicker in the remake.I have seen Peppy and Slippy being downed in seconds from full health.
>>742309489>TELL ME ABOUT ANDROSS! WHY DOES HE USE THE ROBOT HEAD?>A LOT OF LOYALTY FOR A HIRED GUN!>Or perhaps he's wondering why someone would launch a Nova Bomb at a man after throwing him out of the launch bay.
Love these guys, dialogue's not as good as 64 but I can tell they're trying to ditch their Saturday morning Cartoon tone in favor of thrilling space Opera vibes
>>742309960Makes sense, Star Wars, and Star Trek to a lesser extent, were always big inspirations for the games.
>If you suspend a campaign run, the stage you're at will be shown out the window of the Great FoxNice touch.
Been cleaning up Expert Mode medals. Just Titania and Sector Z left then never touching Expert again outside of challenge mode sifne the wings breaking so easily is annoying.
If they make a brand new sequel, I want them to go nuts with the split paths, cameos, and general choices and consequences. Could we get another 1 hour arcade game with tons of replayability made with this kind of budget in this day and age?
>>742301309I saw a claim that your allies become the rival pursuer once you knock their rival below half health and I have spotted that. Honestly the allies are too good on Sector Z, fuckers keep stealing my missile kills when I need them for challenge mode and medals. Have to do a expert run using the Sector X warp just so Katt doesn't help.
>>742311053But more points though.GOD FUCK I KEPT GETTING CLIPPED IN AREA 6 BY STUPID BULLSHIT AND I AM NEVER DOING VENOM 2 WITHOUT HYPERS AGAIN FUUUUCK.
Can't wait for the sequel- in which it's revealed the Krazoa were evil the entire time and try and take over the universe like they were supposed to do in Dinosaur Planet.
>>742311113>Could we get another 1 hour arcade game with tons of replayability made with this kind of budget in this day and age?No, lol.Next game will be a re-imagined mish-mash of Adventures and Assault.
>>742311158They did that shit in the original too. But they can't help if they're already being chased. Only problem is that being able to see so clearly on Sector Z means that it's weirdly easy to clear out every single enemy in the level now and then you're competing with four other ships for the last three missiles.Medal's a breeze now that you can actually see the Hit + 2 space junk though.
>>742298361>Fox accidentally shoots down a Cornerian fighterNOT A LOT OF LOYALTY FOR A HIRED GUN!
>>742305340It's not that random. Everyone marks a specific target and Wolf always marks you. After grinding out the miserable Expert challenges for Venom 2, it becomes pretty clear exactly how the fight works. Take out Wolf immediately and it becomes incredibly smooth sailing.
>>742311262Don't do this to me man. I want to believe. I feel like this kind of experience could be extremely popular again. Look at a game like Slay the Spire.
>>742298361>>742311336Reminder that Krystal was the first baneposter.
>>742311430The people crave for on-foot segments, anon. They yearn for the lore.You will get a hodgepodge action/adventure/rail shooter type thing, and you will like it. Or else.
>>742311573nta but thats exactly what I want
>>742311637God I hate homosexuals so fucking much
>>742306981It's usually good news when a Nintendo game doesn't get a lot of threads here after release unless it's a waifu simulator because most of the people active on threads about new Nintendo games are snoys and bitter pirates that can't emulate shitting up the threads. If there's a lot of threads post-release then it usually means there's a shit ton of bait material.
>>742311732What's wrong with you? Why do you want this series to die again?
>>742309960I'm still upset that he actually let Pepper finish what he was saying before blowing him off. Interrupting the moment it becomes clear what he's about to ask was just such a powermove.
>>742311905Star Fox Assault had balls. It gave the series a direction that it had room to grow in and Nintendo decided to skip an entire console generation for the IP because they couldn't decide who to bum the series off on and they didn't want to dedicate a first party studio to a Star Fox game.
>>742300207Starfox 64 version was much easier than this one. They changed the AI which doesn't let me cheese through em.
>>742311573If nintendo really wanted to make another foot shooter they should save that for kid icarus uprising 2 and star fox can remain an on the rails shooter.
>>742308390I literally just downloaded it about an hour ago and played through the game. I worked fine and required basically zero effort to set up. It even worked with my PS5 controller by default without me having to map it.https://github.com/harbourmasters/starship
>>742312002>they didn't want to dedicate a first party studio to a Star Fox gameAt this point I don't think anyone at Nintendo is qualified to work on anything other than Mario and co., Splatoon and Zelda. And even then, Zelda's a stretch.
>>742311826he says, playing the> Sex: MENfranchise
>>742311518>General Scales threw her out of a moving airship after questioning her Holy shit
>>742312063They can just implement some stuff from Starfox 2 in a future game since I liked the walker stuff and they can do some interesting stuff by adding the ability to stop and walk around mini dungeons.
>>742312116It worked*
>>742312002They didn't skip a gen, Command was on DS.
>>742312301Shut the fuck up Miyamoto, we're not doing that gay walker again. We're going BOOTS ON THE GROUND.You know what they SHOULD do for the on-foot segments? Make them play like VANQUISH. Fast. Intense. Stylish. Fun as FUCK.
>>742300594it was a safe sounding idea considering they were moving around so
>>742312614Star Fox is a vehicle only series. It doesn't need on foot segments. Your cubekiddie shit is getting retconned
Does this make James Batman?
>Remake changes injured Andrew into wearing a neck brace that covers his head tooLook at that weenie.
>>742313020They did a good job with Andrew. The only character I can say was improved. Arguably Slippy too
>>742313020>they plugged one of Pigma's nostrilsWeird.
>>742313020> Wolf only gets a few bandaids> everyone else is a cybernetic monster or crippledSo its confirmed Fox is deliberately holding back fire power on Wolf specifically, which probably means nothing.
>>742313219Well in the original he had his nose broken so it's probably to stop some bleeding.
>>742313278I usually saw it as Wolf just being better at crashing than the rest of his crew.
>>742313020I miss when Andrew just screams when you shoot down his Wolfen II
>>742300302They didn't barrel roll charged shots. They simply had a shield that was 100% immune to charge shots & bombs.They simply barrel rolled once at the beginning of your regular shots, requiring you to consistently hold them in your sites & fire on them rather that get a lucky shot on them once in a while if you play like a sperg.Really, once you understand that all this means is "chase an enemy down until he's dead" it becomes much easier.
>>742312002>Star Fox Assault had balls>becomes 80% third person shooter>single stick controls as default to be more beginner friendly despite twins sticks being the norm>tries to have a darker and edgier story but pussies out on killing off all but Pigma>extremely linear, no multiple objectives or secret routes>reused multiplayer arenas as campaign stages>had no idea what to do with Krystal so she gets Slippy's shield analysis>incredibly primitive gunplay with minimal environmental interaction outside of some things blowing upNo, not really.
>>742299129HEY BILLLC'MON RACE WAR
Seriously, though, unless you follow a really stupid path, you'll never fight Star Wolf on both planets. Just who the fuck managed to kick their asses offscreen?
>>742313020>logs straight up say they only keep him around because of Andross' money
>>742304117>Rude and dismissive(...)This happens in the N64 ending as well. He's a total faggot during the ceremony, leave his comms off, cuts off Pepper, and tells him to touch grass effectively.I went back and looked it up because I thought it was weird too.
>>742313308Wolf, imternally: "Why am I the only one who remembers the emergecy evacuation launch? Damn I at least thought Leon was smarter than them..."
>>742307624James is now a fzero racer so he's super dead
>>742313546It was Bill.Bill did it.Praise Bill.
WHY DON'T ALL THE BOSSES EXPLODE DRAMATICALLY ANYMORE?
Looking for a good Starfox LoRa
I only recently (within the last three years) finally did the alternate path in Star Fox 64. I always thought you had to somehow force your way into the waterfall on Corneria by flying into it, I never knew you just had to fly under all those earthen archway.I played Star Fox 64 thousands of times as a kid and thought I was the expert at Star Fox 64 but I literally never figured out how to reach the other alternate planets aside from the obvious ones like the Meteor field, the Independence Day themed level, etc. It took me 26 years to get to the true ending of Star Fox 64.
>>742313801Probably they want the Tone to be a mite more serious in case they get to make another game with (hopefully ideally) a new plot for the first time since Command. New villain, more character interaction, maybe new planets, new mechanics, actually substantially building the world and setting etc.Well, one might hope anyway.A less pretentious would be they just wanted the game to be more "adult" since fans of the 64 game must generally be largely in their 30s or 40s by now.
Why the fuck does Meteo Crusher have a rotating pizza with a slice missing to reveal its weak spot?
>>742314210they couldn't afford a whole pizza
>>742314210because he underestimated you
If you're having trouble on Venom 2 switch to mouse mode. It makes all-range a joke.
>>742314210And why did they nerf him in this version so that his second phase can't aim for you in the center? In the original he went nuts with it
>Arwing>All Range Mode>(A)ll (R)ange (Wing)
>>742314210He knew you're not as stupid as you look.
Pepper you disgusting chud sack of shit here in our team we save our friends do you understand? My guess is you don't even have any friends...
>>742314808General Peppers has friends, he's just not allowed to bring them.
>>742314808Honestly it's going to be so fucking weird to play the Assault remake, because they'll either retain Fox being a cocky little freak, or him being bordering on tears when Pepper "dies" is going to be emotional whiplash.
>>742313843How? I figured that out when I was 4
>>742315002You weren't even alive in 2001, shut up.
>>742315046I was born in 1993
>>742298361If Andross is the doctor in this scenario, then who's Bane?
>>742315091No you weren't. You were born in 2006.
>>742315140From a certain point of view you could say it was where my life truly began...
>>742315001>end of the Sauria mission>cutscene with an adult Tricky plays out>he asks Fox if he'll come back to Sauria for his honeymoon>Fox gets angry and rants about him and Krystal akshually being in a civil union instead
>>742315095
>>742308835Nintendo has made tons of SF games. The problem is they fucking suck compared to 64, so they never become canon.
>>742314808
>>742315313Actually 64 is the only SF that Nintendo made. Literally every other one including the original was done by a third party
WHAT THE HECK
I've never played any Starfox game other than 64. The other titles always seemed totally pointless.
>>742299129
What sort of "military secrets" could General Pepper have?
>>742315506*nods respectfully at you*
>>742315517Andross knew too much about the (((Anglars))).
Have I coped too much or did they make Katt look less like a druggie in-game? I remember her looking worse in the previews...
>>742315421Argonaut only did the graphics in the original SF since they designed the Super FX chip.
>>742315517Him and Andross were lovers
>>742298361You know how when writing you generally want to tighten a script, remove excess and whatnot? The remake did the opposite of that
>>742316115>FOR THE LOVE OF KRAZOA, WHAT DO YOU WANT, GENERAL? WHAT THE FUCK COULD YOU POSSIBLY WANT RIGHT NOW? HOLY SHIT, YOU FUCKING NEUTERED SON OF A LITERAL BITCH, CAN'T YOU SEE MY ENGINEER TOAD IS MISSING IN ACTION? I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE LYLAT SYSTEM YOU TAINT-LICKING, FLEA-RIDDEN MUTT
Wait a minute, that building...
>>742314716Arwing is legally distinct Xwing
>>742316384It took me until the remake to realize these were emergency broadcasts. On n64 I just thought Pepper liked hanging pictures of himself on the buildings.
>>742316356anyone else find this line a little out of pocket?
what's his end game?
>>742311518She has big girls
>>742316598For you... Maybe
>>742316649Based hetero couple
>>742316567>See new design>Immediately thought Velan didn't get the whole thing with the raccoon looking creepy and shady was deliberate >They actually quadruple down on it instead
>>742300302Why does it feel like barrel rolling charged shots never works in multiplayer?
>>742316649Was exciting the homo furries part of your plan ?
>>742316649Reminder that Krystal is canonically busty
>>742315703the ai upscale people posted looked worse than the original
>>742316567equipping the GP02 with nuclear weapons
>>742316756>Raccoon
>>742315517Pepper sold Andross weapons of mass destruction. They were buddy buddy. Why do you think he pushed for banishment instead of execution?
>>742317651Fuck, I forgot Tanuki are more dog than coon
I got all the medals. Hardest normal medal was Venom 1, Hardest hard medal was Venom 2 cause I went into that mission with single lasers after Gorgon. Sector Z wasn’t that bad just don’t run into random ships.
>>742317959How long did it take you? Did you exceed the agreed upon playtime of two hours?
>>742318013I did 8 playthroughs (4 normal, 4 expert) and about two hours of multiplayer matches. Here’s the stats, some of it was spent in the main menu looking at random stuff and reading files as well alongside doing some of the challenges, which I need to get back on.
>>742312614The on foot parts are really underrated just for the fact that they give a better sense of scale. It's not like you're on foot all the time, you can jump into a vehicle
>>742300207You can skip the cutscene in the 64 version and shoot down all of Star Wolf in 10 seconds.
WAAAZZUUUP!!
>>742318319Her theme song doesn’t fit her new voice.
>>742300207>>742318227Remake also always makes it so you're not facing them directly after the cutscene
>>742311158It's programmed for your wingmen to target Star Wolf once you saved them twice (you must get the dialog to confirm it).The rate they shoot down Star Wolf varies on the pilot. Falco > Slippy > Peppy. Peppy takes forever to down Pigma.The remake I saved Slippy once from Andrew and he managed to take him down while I was taking down the others. I think your wingmen are more competent here to make you work for those points.
>>742300207The new fight seems to use the multiplayer AI. I don’t think it’s that hard to win it, still. Getting the medal with single lasers is annoying though, but you can still get the Venom 2 medal if you’re slow on just one Star Wolf member. It puts you at like 180, you get 5 points for both of Andross’ eyes and then 10 for the brain so you hit 200.
What if Andross had his way with Fox haha
The Star Wolf fights in both versions are ridiculously easy once you realize you can just brake while they somersault and blast them again
>>742318354Pajeet devs, don't expect thoughful decisions.
Hardest part about expert mode is>learning where all the flank enemies come from>dealing with ship-on-ship collisions in all-range modeThe latter just boils down to playing all-range mode safer by acting on the outside and looking at the radar more. Doesn’t impede kill count. Also Gorgon’s tentacles but I just try killing those asap before it can swing a single one.
>>742311910Funny thing is that Pepper's line is not interrupted in the voice files. The timing was messed up by accident and it just happened to fit perfectly.
>>742319134Sonic Adventure 2 shit.
>>742318815I recently got recommended a YouTube short by the algorithm and guy in the video said:>Erm actually guys, this is her BEST design ever because it makes sense that she'd be a grizzly, unhygienic and gross looking cat cuz she's a space mercenary and she's SUPPOSE to look ugly!I don't know how I feel about that.
>>742319309Dude that guy REALLY hates gendered designsHe despises the Eon duo
>>742319309>Reading comments You know it's all AI generated, right!?
>>742318815>that cigarette cartonPerfect.
Be honest, you'd buy a remake of adventures if she looked like this.
>>742320965Yes Twice
>>742300207SF64's is far easier. SF64 had way more lenient hit boxes and Star Wolf in the remake also just actually cheat because they can spam sommersaults and U-turns, their G-Diffusers replenish in like half the time yours do.In many ways I would say the remake is more difficult to play (particularly the boss fights, the Gorgon on Expert mode is an actual bitch whore who WILL make you drop your laser upgrades), but way easier to medal, especially Sector Z.
