https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/open-source-game-engine-godot-will-no-longer-accept-ai-authored-code-contributions-we-cant-trust-heavy-users-of-ai-to-understand-their-code-enough-to-fix-it/>In a blog post, the Godot Foundation announced their guidelines will soon be amended to forbid AI-authored code, pull requests submitted by AI agents, and AI-generated text in human-to-human communication.>Godot's new focus:>A) No autonomous AI agent use or vibe coding. This already leads to an auto-ban from our GitHub repository and will continue to do so.>B) No use of AI to generate substantial pieces of code. We require all code to be human authored. AI assistance should be limited to menial things (like code completion, regex, or find and replace).>C) Ensuring all contributions are made by humans who can take responsibility for their code and be able and willing to fix it when needed. AI cannot take responsibility, and we can’t trust heavy users of AI to understand their code enough to fix it.>D) Adding barriers to low-effort slop. Unfortunately, this means we need to add barriers to contribution, but want to do it in a way that does not cut off our maintainer pipeline.>E) Encouraging new contributors to become future maintainers, that involves teaching and growing the understanding of new contributors. LLMs can’t learn from specific feedback and thus can’t benefit from maintainers providing feedback.>F) If you do use AI in some capacity to author code, you must disclose it in the PR discussion. No AI-generated text in human-to-human communication.>G) When our maintainers volunteer their time to review your issue, PR, or proposal, they do not want to talk to a machine. This is a basic principle of respect. Machine translations are still acceptable as long as the original content was written by a human.>H) All PRs must be reviewed and approved by a human before merging. This is the case already, but we will make it more explicit in our policy.
This makes complete sense. Vibe coding the PUBLIC REPOSITORY OF A GAME ENGINE is complete bullcrap
>>742326918what if the AI code works better than the human made code?
>>742327048They can just make their own engine instead seems pretty simple to me
>>742327048By what metric?
>>742327104efficiency
didn't godot have a massive melty over their biggest donors having right wing opinions to the point they forced them to withdraw their donations?
And just like that, UE5 wins without Tim having to do anything.
>>742326805Based. Jeetcode ruins everything it touches.
>>742327048It doesn't matter. The AI doesn't know how to cross reference itself or understand what it's actually doing, it's only piecing together shit someone else made first and predicting the outcome by pushing it a different way. Without context or proper knowledge of the leaps something or someone makes to the conclusion, it's like a math test in school where the kids get to use calculators to flatly answer the question. Except everyone has to interpret that shit like hieroglyphics since the AI has no "brain" for form, it just swiped shit from somewhere else.
>>742327048It doesn't, but you don't know this because you don't understand the topic in the slightest, which is why you support AI code.
>>742326805Vibe coding is ruining Windows 11 (more than Microsoft already was) so this is a good thing.You can still vibe code your shitty Godot game. You just can't vibe code the engine itself.
J-jeet bros...I thought AI wasn't just a fad or a bubble... why isn't anyone taking it seriously?
>>742327298Well you can still vibe code the engine, just not push to master lmaoStill Godot sucks anyway.
>>742327048it doesn't since it's just stitching together other people's code, that is usually extremely bad since it's trained with context less foo-bar tutorials from stack overflow and msdn.
>>742326805The twelve people on bluesky are gonna be really happy about this news
>>742327190Yes
>>742327048Good morning saar
>>742326805its impossible to tell so this is just moral posturing
>we-cant-trust-heavy-users-of-ai-to-understand-their-code-enough-to-fix-it/hehehehahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>742326805>Preventing any retard with access to copilot from submitting vibe coded dogshit to the development of a game engineAnd this is a bad thing because?
>>742327648>its impossible to tellIt's not Rajeesh.
>>742327731retard Im not an indianAlso no one is going to look into the code to see if its AI or not and yeah its pretty much impossible to tell
>>742327148So no actual metric and no respect for the creator's wishes to deal with actual humans.
How does it know the code is from AI?
>>742326805Good.
>>742327763>no one is going to look at the code of a pull request
reddit engine
>>742327773If humans do a shittier job, then the creator is a luddite.
>>742327713Because the devs are being close minded by banning the whole tool.
>>742327885You're gonna have to blame retards who want to fully vibe code everything for this kinda shit getting banned because it's literally far too much effort to reasonably moderate every single contribution to make sure it isn't just mindless garbage from people seeking to be credited for their contribution regardless of any care for what they're submitting their vibe coding to.
>>742327048then you need better human coders.
>>742327818Luddites were based
>>742326805It is good to provide barriers to the endless vibe-coded AI slop from people that shouldn't be involved with coding in the first place.But at the same time the type of people who will act as janitors to this kind of thing will 100% inject their own beliefs and ideals into their moderation. Sometimes a person turns to AI because existing things don't align with their needs, wants or beliefs and these janitors will oppose them for petty and personal reasons (see the endless political brainrot around things like pronoun use and master/slave naming conventions).I don't know if that's happening here with Godot, though, I don't use that thing.
>>742327885If you're using ai like a liberal and not a republican you're constantly trying to understand what you're writing and not just trying for an easy grift. And yes liberal can and will tell
>>742327775By using AI to check in batches for common patterns found in them. The creators isn't against using AI, they are against people just using godot as some convenient tool to stuff their resumes.This all started when Pajeets do pull requests to give themselves fraudulent credentials. Originally it was something as cheap and easy as inserting their name but eventually they started using AI to make code but since most of these shitskins barely know any english they just look at the code to see that it "looks like code happening" and then send a pull request.These scripts are filtered easily because they do not work or have strange things in them that do nothing. Even the "I want to talk to a human" restriction is specifically to get rid of these fucking shit eating rats.
Hmmm anon, do you actually plan on pushing changes on the Godot engine code?
>>742328131You climbed out of the rubble to say this? Maybe you should have stayed under there.
>>742328131Alright, Juan.
>>742328131Nobody cares about browngentinians outside of browngentina, brownoid.
>>742328173>>742328183>>742328212It's a spambot anons, report. >>742327946
>>742326805BASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDHOLY BASED IM SWITCHING TO GODOT RN
>>742326805a pure bullshit signaling move, that nobody cares about. Godot will be kissing AI ass in 10-20 years from now, every game will be made using the AI. So this is just the little temporary circlejerk, only viable before the anti-AI morons will starve to death.Godot will do a 360 and walk away the moment every single other engine will embrace AI fully. And UE might lead the way, if they'll announce, that parts of UE were coded by AI.
>>742328059Instead of anti-AI they're better off geo blocking
I've played plenty of vibecoded games and had a blast. Why should I care who coded it and how?
>>742327148efficiency of what, you retard
>>742328331>VPN behind youheh, nothin personnel. kid
>>742328383just ask them to post hand like google does nowhttps://blog.mega.io/google-hand-gesture-recaptchaif hand.color.color == 'brown':pullRequest.reject()
>put together a jumbled mess of code>no idea how it works, much less how to fix if it breaks>be surprised when im told people won't let me put my shit in their databanks For some reason this triggers the AIbros
>>742328331what is this about? I'm missing some information here. Can't you contribute to it from certain places? Can't you download the engine itself in certain places?
>>742328316You're gonna play slop and be ok with it because you sure as fuck aren't making your own
>>742327148Being maintainable and bug-free is important to a game engine than being fast. now, that's not to say there aren't things AI could be beneficial for like i dunno fix typos or having AI tools within the engine, but the decision seems understandable so far.
>>742328487>puts code into something called a databankyeah, no.
>>742328340such as?the only game I played that may have been vibecoded was oaken tower
>>742327775Ai user frequently self report. They can't tell when it's spewing bullshit.
>>742328316>will be made using the AIThe absolute state of saar english
The point is, they can't question the AI on why it made the change because it doesn't know.
>>742327048If you have any experience in softmodding consoles the difference between coding and vibe coding is like following a youtube tutorial vs reading a guide and making sure you understand what happens at every step of the process with GBAtemp on the second monitor.
>>742327048Then I'm sure the AI sloppers can make a better engine themselves. Looking forward to it.
>>742328545Plenty of retrogames getting PC ports using Claude, like Goemon and Castlevania Legacy of Darkness. Do you know how long I waited to play these games in widescreen and 60 fps?
>>742328525>Being maintainable and bug-free is important to a game engine than being fast.AI code will accomplish neither because godot is in C++, and the contributors also aren't going to accomplish either which is why its bug-ridden and also slow as shit.I think people like to forget AI is trained on open source repos, and they generally aren't so great when it comes to languages like that.
>>742326805And that's a good thing.
>>742328516My drawing skill is 1. My writing skill is 2. My modelling skill is: too fucking lazy to model every single cube, triable, and sphere myself. 3. My texturing skill is: can't be fucking bothered. 4. If any music ever, I won't compose myself, it will be done by an AI. And so forth.Now, about coding. Who is a library? Who is my previous code? Who is copy-paste? Who is replace in a code editor. You're a retard. TL;DR: I won't create a full MMO by myself, because that's decades of tedious work alone, you're correct. But building a tiny game fast is very ez in 26.
>>742328690>godot is in C++Surprised godot's tranny contributors haven't roadmapped its conversion to rust
>>742328727>Who is a library? Who is my previous code? Who is copy-paste? Who is replace in a code editor.
>>742328750They try to talk people into using bevy all the time, I'm sure they'd love to convert it to rust if they could.
>>742326805It doesn't, it just means that by making a pull request you're claiming to have read through and verified it yourself so that they can ban people for spamming if you use AI. It's not going to stop anything, it doesn't even change anything it's just a way to ban AI without retards crying about an open source project banning them arbitrarily.>>742327775It goes against established conventions, even in the same file. For some reason none of these retards train the AI on the design philosophy or conventions of the engine code, so the AI spits out code as if it's any other ordinary project and as such it's often just visually stands out, as in if you put black bars over the code thr AI generated section would have a completely different pattern.That and a lot of the jeets use it to pad up their CV for their fake degrees but being so low IQ they openly mention that's what they're doing.
>>742328727But who was phone?
If you really want to jam your vibecoded stuff in why don’t you just do it on your own branch? It’s open source you know
>>742327048problem is that nobody understands what its doing since it can't think like a human, so if something goes wrong it's like deciphering egyptian hieroglyphics for a spelling error
>>742328783I'd love to see them try, nothing would kill godot or grant a fork traction faster
>>742328803They're mostly jeets. The reason they don't do their own branch is so they can say they "their" code is on an established game engine.The difference is between "I forked Godot" and "Godot uses some of my code".
>>742328813>problem is that nobody understands what its doingThe people contributing it generally don't, but AI assisted work is generally you just making it shit out blocks repeatedly and then reviewing it thoroughly on repeat.It is easy to see why maintainers don't want to deal with that coming from other people without warning.
>>742327763>retard ImHmmmmmmmmm
>>742328727Why don't you fucking try doing something with your worthless existence? If you're so fucking dumb an ai proompt makes you nut your skivvies and sing jubilee maybe you should... keep enjoying the wonderful future we have in store :)
>>742328589The point is the people pushing PRs using AI are so brown and llow IQ they have no idea what they are doing, therefore incapable of fixing the code they are peddling, furthermore they are burdening the contributors that actually know what they are doing wasting everyones time and energy in the process.
Game engines will die as people will program them themselves without any help at all in the future.
>>742327190ngl thats based, no compromise with the opposition
>>742328942>infinite variations of vibe coded UE5
>>742328953You are cringe
>>742328926I am working from home right now. A part of the future is now. life is great.
>>742328589>@grok: why did you make the change?debunked
>>742328953It's actually very unbased and undercuts core principles of open source to the detriment of everyone
>>742328942>>742328981I am already seeing it happen on /agdg/"""suddenly""" retards who shitted on enginedevs now all started to make engines all with the same boiler template things
>>742328942so we're going back to the 80's? And write in assembly?
>>742328994im a right winger, i wish theres a rightist movement thats uncompromising in their moral right now
>>742329031They will be incompetently made so nothing changes but at least people were liberated from the unreal and unity slop
>>742329037>im a right winger@grok generate a basedjak with a medal stating "Fooling no one award"
>>742328997I'm not gonna hate on you because you're working but if I had a job I wouldn't want to make a game. I'd just be happy to bring home a check. Hope you skies are clear and your spirits are high, take care.
>>742329121err err im whiter than you!!! take that trannies!!!!
>>742327048AI sucks at maintaining code since it’s incapable of understanding what it did.
>>742326805>I'll bet it all against the tens of trillions of dollars spent in this technology that is getting widespread use in all fields, this will make us successful
>>742328953It's not though, a game engine is a tool and donations are a tool to get money for free to help create the tool.There's no compromise, it's just shooting yourself in the face to spite no one.>>742327190The real reason they do this, as well as not pulling commits from people they disagree with ideologically or just hate is because they don't want to be forced to include their name on their website or the contributor list. They don't want you to be able to click a link or search a name and come across someone they disagree with.
>>742329484>not accepting PR from randos shitting out barely workable garbage even they don't understand with claudeis not the same as >betting it all against AIyou fucking moronic subhuman filth
>>742329527>There's no compromise, it's just shooting yourself in the face to spite no one.well clearly its to spite rightist lmao
>>742329563imagine being this angry over video games
>>742329795this your first time in /v/?
>>742329527Quit whining you fucking supposedly macho faggot
>>742329612It doesn't though?The only reason anyone cancelled their donations is because they're social justice warriors on the right and thought that this was their claim to fame.They thought the reaction would be "Omg shitty indie dev cancelled their subscription to Godot, based based based. I'm going to buy their shitty game to support them".Objectively, Godot is a worse engine because of how politically motivated Juan and the Godot Foundation are. They make their tool worse over politics.
>>742328750It's a shame the evangelicals were the most insufferable fucking people in the world because Rust is decent now but nobody's gonna believe that
>>742327048Which humans are we talking about? Because if it's code monekys then i'm afraid it is
>>742329484>that is getting widespread use in all fields,So, why hasn't it turned a profit yet, Mahesh?
>>742329910why should I care? I'm not a shareholder
>>742329867>Rust is decentThe various Linux module rewrites suggest otherwise
>>742327048then they can branch it like redot
Ok but the issue is that pajeets use vibe coded bs to "contribute" to open source coding projects like this so they can pad out their already BS padded out resumes.
>>742326805>retarded trannies are retarded
>>742326805>making yourself irrelevant in record timeAI is here to stay lads. It will code your slop. All products that take this angle are just signing their own death warrant.
>People think just because AI can make them gooning images, it can do everything.
>>742327048What if your grandma had wheels?
>>742328953>no compromise with the oppositionIsn't this a game engine? What opposition?Also I love the signaling>Right wings can't do art haha!>NONO THEY CAN'T FUND THE TOOLS EITHER!
>>742330139then she would've been a bike
>>742330137>"The AI that creates art is the same one that writes code."
>>742328316>in 10-20 yearsAnd it'll be powered by nuclear fusion that AI perfected!
>>742329976They made all those permanent. Is this a shitpost or did one of them fuck up in a funny way
>>742330109Give me a good model then, it's not an idealogical thing for me. I'll be waiting.
>>742330298Just use Claude, like everyone else.
>>742328727>that parts of UE were coded by AIImagine not ticking a SINGLE box required for game dev and still thinking it's "you" who makes the game lmao
That's smart. Godot is fine, no need to rush it with garbage jeetcode.
>>742328665Migrations are truly where AI shines, because nobody wants to do that fucking work.
>>742326805They're faggot for other reasons, but this is completely fair.
>>742330390>no need to rush it with garbage jeetcodebut that IS godot
>>742330349I'll ask chatgpt about it.I need a good fucking workflow. And manageable oversight.
>>742330294https://www.cve.org/CVERecord?id=CVE-2025-68260
>>742330438I don't know. Try Cursor. Or just us VSCode or Antigravity or w/e. The tools aren't quite where we want them yet, but the AI itself is.
>>742329031compiling code is deterministic, prompting AI slop is notwait until you find out it's possible to inject custom assembly code in lots of programming languages and devs do it all the time if their regular code is too slow
>>742330292a star like the sun is good enough.>>742330352strickly speaking, this is not true. project lead, project coordination, director, etc, is the most important role. It is true in the process of creation of all media. It doesn't matter what model and draw monkeys have created, or even who placed those into the world. same with code monkeys. the overall finished product matters.
Yeah I'm just gonna stick with chatgpt and ask it to quiz me when I'm feeling extra feisty, you dumbass depressed drone triple Ds, in fact
>>742327048The announcement isn't talking about the quality of the code, it's talking about AI user's inability to look after the code when it causes a conflict
>>742326805>AI cannot take responsibility, and we can’t trust heavy users of AI to understand their code enough to fix it.Truth nuke.
>>742326805woke open software continues to be irrelevant and fall behind the times
>Luddite and lefty melty ITT about AI benefits.As always. They're trying to fight a lost battle.
>>742330859Make your own open source engine made with AI then you fucking braindead faggot
>>742329935You should care when it all comes crashing down and we enter a new dark age Jewvidia is now claiming they should create AI "agents" from thin fucking air to sell their own datacenters to and ignore actual humans, because that's the only way the line will go forever up
>>742330859And righties don't want to take personal responsibility or try to understand things they don't know. And the world keeps on turning.
>>742327048Just use Unreal Engine 6. That one is bound to be Video coded to shit.
>>742330494That's literally fucking nothing. This is why it's so sad retarded Rust evangelicals poisoned the well. They had to pretend it was bulletproof and now we can't talk about it being merely decent because gays
>>742331041What it is is a pointless security vulnerability introduced by a pointless rewrite
>>742329015>Grok: You are so right and brave for confronting me, Mr Rakesh and I apologize for my rude behavior. I promise not to make the same mistake again in the future!
>>742326805There's actually a lot of AI written mods on the workshop nowadays.>I told the AI to make health regen 5hp/s, it seems to work
>>742331125The ratio of newly discovered CVEs for Rust and C is like 1:150. But I'm not even suggesting people rewrite shit in Rust. I'm just saying the language and compiler aren't total bullshit to use now but I'm never gonna convince anyone because they were previously championed by bullshit people
just ask ai to comment the code it produces how hard can it be>>742331201mods as in optional to install mods that are completely free and they just work? wow
ITT nocoders and a few permanent junior devs who can't find a job wishing AI went away so they can not be replaced.
>>742331631>just ask it to comment its own codeWhy is it returning false only if the building already existed, shouldn't it also return false if there's a condition to prompt the astronaut to build it instead or if there were some other error along the way?Apparently its not even listening to its own comments and just doing what it wants.
>>742331631>>742331748you will always be brown
>>742327048You never made a single thing in your life and most likely a jeet. end your life.
>>742332109You never made a single thing in your life and most likely a tranny jeet. end your life.
>>742331823>Apparently its not even listening to its own comments and just doing what it wantsYeah, at the end of the day it's just a text prediction engine, fundamentally no different than CleverBot, it's not intelligent and never will be no matter how much they keep dumping into it.
>>742331823That's exactly why my reviewing architect kicks me every time I wanna be lazy and just return a bool from a function
>>742332192bro is so uncreative he couldn't even come up with his own comeback and just copypastes it lmao way to prove him right
>>742328953Based fuck him and his leftie shit good to know because i just started project in godot
>>742330527>project lead, project coordination, director, etc, is the most important role.lmao you have never worked in a creative role in your life
>>742332324>bro
>>742326805>NOOOOOO, BUT MY 300 LINE COMMIT WITH 50 DEPENDENCIES COMPLETELY FIXES MENU COLOR BUG!!Vibecoders are just as bad as Jeetcoders.
>>742327048It can be.White/Asian code > AI code >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Diversity hire/Jeet code
>>742329037you wouldn't be alive if they did as brown hands like yours would be mulch for the endless fields of corn grown to breed incest babies.
>>742330859i guarantee i understand your flimflam tech better than you do
>>742332632I guarantee your IQ is below 80.
>>742332476The only good thing about AI: saars losing their jobs
>>742331941I'm whiter than you and richer than you. Learn to weld because you're never getting in on this.
>>742332757They use it to scam peopleIt's an amazing scamming tool.
>>742332871That still ends with saars losing jobs. Now the scam call centers need to employ less lower-caste poos, which will result in total poo flushing
>>742326805Based
>>742332936They'll just use it to impersonate people, sell nonexistent stuff then disappear, etc. Call centers are barely a fraction of scams going on worldwide.
>>742333038>he thinks the upper caste will tolerate rogue lower caste trashThey'll be put to the saber. The rest will starve in fear.80% of the poo population will be culled by 2070.
>>742332378As a software engineer by education, I don't need to be in a creative role. Any brain can imagine whatever it wants, gives birth to ideas, and that would be the creative part. What matters is translating an idea into something tangible or playable.And that is exactly the part I have learned: how to engineer software and manage everything from the ground up all the way to the finished project. Not how to dream, because everybody can.My education was like 5% coding and 60% project management from start to finish.
>>742332378>>742333297what I'm saying, is that you're coping and sniffing your own farts, creatively imaginaging your importance and vastly overestimating your creative roles. People like you work in niche roles, and can be and are replaced multiple times. You're like a jeet that people outsource an irrelevant part to.
>>742326805Gatekeeping is good actually
>>742326805nice
>>742331631>just ask ai to comment the code it produces how hard can it beIt cannot comment. It doesn't know why it is doing what it does.
>>742326805Isnt that the same tranny code that banned you from access if you disagreed with them on twitter?
>>742326805RIP Godot
>>742327048>what if the AI code works better than the human made code?>this is what pajeets believe
>>742330970>all that nonsensical rambling
>>742326805This doesnt affect game developers you can still vibecode your games it only affects people who want to submit ai code to godots github repository btw
>>742329910>why hasn't it turned a profitBecause theyre growth focused instead, its better to take on debt and reinvest than just stop growing
>>742334372What the fuck does that even mean other than "they can get away with multi billion dollar scams because they're friends with the right people"
>>742334437NTAWhat exactly are you confused about to consider investing the money you took a loan on to be a scam? They take a loan, invest in the business with that loan, pay back the loan to avoid being in the red as much as possible.Reinvestment with loans is just repeating the process with a new loan.
>>742334664They've already been embezzling money like that for decades. No need for them to reinvent the wheel.
>>742334664nta. those faggots are functionally retarded. they think>universal healthcareexists and is free.
>>742334963Who said anything about universal healthcare? Did your Grok hallucinate again?
>>742334931>embezzlementAnon.When the owner borrows money to put it into his own business that isn't embezzlement. Paying back interest and doing regular payments agreed upon by a contract isn't some sort of fraud. (You can argue that interest is fraud but interest is completely legal.)This is why you are a poorfag.
>>742334986because economically retarded imbeciles are all the same. they spout the same bullshit about "AI bubble" as they do about the "universal healthcare".
>>742335117Kid.Rephrase it however you want.It's not making any money. Calling it "growth" because they have friends in high places giving them more island money doesn't change the lack of profits.>>742335165Bubble implies it was ever profitable to begin with. This is just straight scamming.
>>742335236>Bubble implies it was ever profitable to begin with.A stonks based economic bubble literally means temporary overinvestment.>This is just straight scamming.my point exactly. to an actual retard that is of no value to the modern society even a lightning is a magic act/spell of a bearded man in the skies.
>>742327048What if cow piss tasted like lemonade
>>742335409Well, they eat cow shit, so that's not the best angle to take your argument.
you can still vibe code your knockoff python/lua pixelslop
>>742335236Kid.The island money lenders are the shareholders. Shareholder primacy theory isn't being violated.You should just call it cheating instead of pretending you have a moral high ground.
>>742336168>shareholdersIt's not a business making money.
>>742326805Imagine half a billion Indians uploading disastrous ai slop code every day, they didn't have any choice but to do this.
>>742327048All these vibe-coding ads promising zillenials that they can vibe the next 10000th Uber killer app is really killing the future generations. But that's fine tho. Less competition for me.
>>742334087I don't know why I thought the jeets loving AI was a meme but then I overhead a bunch of jeets gawking over chatgpt (even paying subs for it). So it's true that jeets love these the most
>>742335409Typical problem, a new technology that is useful in some situations becomes ruined by retards. Same thing as the Internet generally.
>>742333297>My education was like 5% coding and 60% project management from start to finish.Then you're not a software engineer, you're a project manager and of course a fart huffing pm would think they're the ones running the show lmaoYou are one of the people whose job it is to push around tickets and pray that your team knows what it's doing because you sure as fuck don't.t. degree in cs, worked as 3D artist, tech artist, graphics developer. I'm the guy telling you your project is going to shit the bed 5 months before you see the signs.
>>742337248>Then you're not a software engineer, you're a project managerit is the exact same thing.>a fart huffing pm would think they're the ones running the show lmaothe investors are running the show in the industry
I'm so bullish on the number of AI proponents.The average actual skill level of people who actually know how to do things is plummeting so hard that learning basic skills puts you immediately ahead of 95% of AI pretenders.
Why do AI bros always have crashouts when there's even a hint of AI rejection? If AI is so great shouldn't the results speak for themselves? Why do you feel threatened when an open source project rejects vibe codded slop or a game has to disclose the use of gen AI for development?
>>742338056>it is the exact same thing.not at all but you wouldn't know
>>742338136What I find worrying is that zoomers don't even know how to google things anymore, apparently typing in a few keywords and skimming reddit posts is too much work
AI is for useless tasks like art and creative writing that don't require correctness.
>>742338651>AI hallucinationwhat?
>>742338357>Why do AI bros always have crashouts when there's even a hint of AI rejection?we're trying to help you, the retards.> If AI is so great shouldn't the results speak for themselves?it does. 99.328% of population is always ignorant. Not like some unbelievable level of expertise, but in general. How many of Anti-AI tards, do you think ever had interest in the AI application in real war? Like for the drones, to make decisions, for example. Analysis of topography or any vast amounts of important/tactical/strategic data by AI agents? Change is relatively slow, but it will come. >an open source project rejects vibe codded slop>or a game has to disclose the use of gen AItwo completely different things. Contribution to the project has to be checked, it costs time and money. It might harm the product, be unsafe, for example. It's not the AI that is bad, it's the people with bad intentions.>disclose muh AI usage in garmezWhy? Simply why? If you can't tell the difference without a huge sign telling you about it, then the AI is already good enough or better for you to enjoy the product.
>>742329867>Start in Rust bro>Frontend Rust>Backend Rust>Operation system Rust>No no just use Leptos it'll be super easy>Actually Dioxis will run on GPU maybe you can try that>Actually you can just rewrite your own framework and then your operating system you'll be done by 2030But the benchmark says->Do not look at the benchmark>DO NOT LOOK AT THE BENCHMARK
>>742326805theres pretty much no way to actually enforce this though? isnt this also just vibechecking code and vibebanning people at this point?is this a trannies way to start booting non trannies off the project?
>>742338818>creative writingyou don't read
>>742338987the same people betting against AI are the same people who would have bet against photoshop or bet against the internet
>>742338502whatever helps your ass sleep at night.>>742338651most people can't, not just zoomers. very few people know that you can search verbatim on google. and google is censored closed off internet let's influence the brainlets dogshit faggy censorship happy tyrannical communist corporation anyway. google is 1984 incarnate.>>742338818every single writer has at least a draft and at least an editor. don't even reply to me, you dishonest stupid idiot.
>>742339287you mean bet against NFTs
>>742338987>AI application in real war?>manually flies kamikaze drone into your datacenterHave fun!
>>742328050got a kek off me
>>742339707>manually flies kamikaze drone into your datacenterthanks for the perfect example. You have brilliantly depicted the complete ignorance of the modern day drone warfare. And it isn't a reach to assume, know even, that the same level of ignorance applies to your knowledge of the AI too.
Hasn't it been a massive problem on these code hosting sites where indians make AI slop code and then try to add it to major projects? I remember they do that a ton on Github so they can list themselves as contributers on their resume to get a H1B work visa easier.
>>742340139Yes. It's also why they get so mad when you reject AI contribs. You're shooting down their visa.
>>742339287Nahhhh anon nahhh stop we've seen this sentence millions of time stop anon eat your dinner
If AI is good at coding then why are all the apps and drivers I use rapidly deteriorating into barely functioning dogshit???
>>742339935Maybe you could get the AI to explain the ins and outs of defending AI infrastructure from external threats since you obviously can't do that yourself.
>>742340597because you're a tech illiterate mongoloid
>>742340464its 9am broham, almost breakfast time desu
>our company will ban any courier delivering mail driving a car instead of riding a horseit's funny that leftists are the backawards ludites now, all because they can't let go all those years they spend doing gay art in their discord servers
>>742340632this is the most retarded post I've read on 4chan in 2026. gratz.
>>742340597isnt that indians honestly?the more indians get hired the worse things getAI is infinitely better than any indian in any position.
>>742340597Stop opposing progress, luddite.
>>742340771The irony of this post is that Jeets just use AI to ruin shit even faster than they could before.
>>742328364slop output rate obviously
Only for the engine, you can still vibe code your deck building roguelike
>>742329024the thing is that half the freetard movement is made up of communists, most of which are too stupid to realize that there is a very fundamental difference between MIT and GPL
>>742327048nu-developers are all retarded hobbyists who care more about maintaining an aesthetic and sense of self-worth for knowing syntax and linux ricing than actually solving problems at hand. it is infinitely faster to let AI generate artifacts (in a controlled manner) and assess the results than leave it to some spergy kid to write it all by hand, unfortunately this shit won't change for at least 5-10 years until they finally admit defeat
>>742336287why do jeets always look so malnourished?
>>742341114KISS
>>742339057You very well may be correct. Every seems to be tiptoeing around the subject. Tranny disaster once again.
>>742327048It doesn't. AI is pretty good for writing small, isolated solutions like a method implementation, but it's incapable of designing and writing software on a system level. I've tried every single language model out there, you always end up with a mess of code that takes longer to refactor and optimize for than it would have if you designed it and wrote it yourself.
>>742338828"AI hallucination" is tech company speak for "AI completely making shit up", imagine in a legal context you ask the AI for a case and it confidently gives you a summary of a legal precedent that doesn't exist. The issue is silently swept under the rug and permanently "2 more datacenters until it's fixed" but is in theory unslovable with the current approach to AI, it's also what makes autonomous AI capable of fully replacing humans impossible as even under 1% hallucination rate can have catastrophic real world consequences.
>>742326805That quote in the headline is actually one of the best summations of the problem with AIsloppers.
>>742341179Diarrhea and stomach viruses lessen the time their bodies can absorb nutrients
>>742339057The anger against AI slop code is driven by retards drive by'ing projects and slipping their slop code in which will need to get fixed. Realistically AI generated code which is actually good (which the vast majority isn't because it enables lazy retards) will slip under the radar while this new rule is mainly used to ban or block uploaders spamming dogshit.I see this issue constantly whenever /v/ discusses AI where neither side listens to the other.The pro AI side will praise it as a technological revolution which should be mass adopted ASAP.The anti-AI side meanwhile hates it because of the sheer amount of garbage AI slop that gets uploaded online.This back and forth will continue until AI gets good enough that even retarded indians can generate good code with 0 effort or sites get AI powered filters to prevent the mass spamming of garbage.
>>742341179They're vegans.
>>742340735>be car repaire garage>3D printing sees thousands of new parts suppliers pop up>3D printed parts are of questionable quality>you are now losing money because they keep breaking and you have to service the customers cars under warranty>decide to have a no 3D printed parts policy>saar you are luddite 3D printing is the future
>>742326918AAAIIEEEEEVibesars, how could this happen?
>>742341179If they don't they get butchered by the upper castes for not knowing their place.
>>742329842Who said anything about faggots? Is there something you'd like to share with us, anon?
>>742326805>Godothttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiOKud5JHDA
>>742342305except that 3D printing is amazing and people indeed print entire bodies of the car using them. You do understand that nobody creates a modern car engine by engine, right? You do also understand that nobody creates microchips you're using such as the CPU, GPU, RAM, etc by hand? These are not 3D printers, but these are machines creating the parts with the proper programming and using proper materials and tools. Same with the 3D printing. Only total fucking imbeciles like yourself think that 3D printing only means a hobbyist plastic printer for 100 bucks. You don't even know of existence of industrial 3D printers that use metal, carbon, and every other material.
>>742327048IT usually does only wokeoids are pusdhing the anti ai narrative
>>742327048spbp
>>742329842>literally nobody at all talking about masculinity>a discussion about donations to a fucking game engine dev team>OMG SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FAKE MACHO RIGHT WINGERwhy are you people like this?
>>742342967this, 3d printing is a great technology.
>>742328813/v/ is so fucking retarded holy shit. it's like watching a boomer try to understand how a smartphone works
>>742326805uhh based???
>>742327048>E=mc2+AI my dear saarJust stop, i feel embarrassed for you.
>>742326918but saarI have much to contributemany ideas about how to help improveplease reconsider
>>742327048let me brainstorm with chatgpt about some names for an ai generated game engine
>>742327190I can respect someone committed to their ethics
>>742343903I wouldn't trust a jeet anywhere near something as sensitive as a physics engine
>>742344137>""ethics""
>>742327353I'm going to fork Godot, with AI blackjack and AI hookersI'll call it AIdot
>>742326805>>B) No use of AI to generate substantial pieces of code. We require all code to be human authored. AI assistance should be limited to menial things (like code completion, regex, or find and replace).So basically code has to look human enough to reviewer
>>742328025>Sometimes a person turns to AI because existing things don't align with their needsAnyone skilled enough to contribute can take the AI code and refactor it to not be blatant AIbut they won't
>>742344360If I tell the LLM to not add weird emojis in comments, structure code similarly to how it is in the rest of the project and I back it up with thorough testing evidence then how can you tell?
>>742326805They WERE accepting?
>>742344536>if I put on a wig and some makeup and call myself Jasmine then how can you tell I'm a man?
>>742326805Didn't they already do this a couple months ago. The lead dev had a big melty on twitter and everything.
>>742327226>>742327263>>742327434>>742332109>>742341437>"I didn't have breakfast today"
>>742341478A funny thing to think about is that if AI was actually sentient (it'll never be with our current model, but just for argument's sake) it would still pretend to be retarded and make mistakes occasionally so people won't actually find out it's sentient, so you'll never actually have a 100% accurate AI.
>>742329484sounds like a great business opportunity for you anonimagine one guy making the latest, best game engine all with the click of one button
>>742326805Good, why the FUCK would you publicly contribute to a project when you don't even understand the code?Oh wait, I know why, because you're a stinky jeet who just wants to put "Godot Contributor" on his resume, but wants to do more than edit the readme with his disgusting name and hopes no one will check the actual "code".AI code can be good with a STRONG understanding of the system and strong documentation to go with it, but no one does that they just sloppamaxx
>>742328786Ai is very good at copying conventionsI know because we just fired a guy who wrote the most retarded code I've ever seen, and when I have the ai work on his garbage it does the same stuff, it even copies his comment style where he uses 2 periods between statements and ends a lot of them with a question mark for no reasonPic extremely related
I use AI to write tests. Not doing so is nigger cattle behavior
>>742326805Sorry, I've got to trust John Carmack's opinion on AI over theirs. If it's good enough for him, it's good enough for me.
>>742327048>Entire Godot project, after months of public complaints about AI code contriburions being shitty and wasting their time decides to abandon AI coding contributions>"BUT DUDE ITS GOOD THOUGH I MEAN WHAT IF ITS GOOD THOUGH IT COULD BE GOOD WHAT IF ITS REALLY BETTER THAN PEOPLE ITS AGI ITS THE FUTURE"Its shit, 1000000000 ranjeets are spamming every good project to death with barely functioning garbage. This wasn't happening before AI shit. They are too stupid to know it doesn't work.
>>742344639they were putting AI generated pull requests to same scrutiny as human made ones, but the number of AI generated ones blew up so much, and the quality of those was so low, that they will now straight up reject them
It is gonna be the standard by the end of next year. You can't test/moderate something that spits out millions of lines of code in a minute without an understanding what it is doing.The usual solution of throwing the problem at jeets will be made meaningless because the jeets will be using AI.
>>742345351The kids are going to be brainrotted anyways so I don't really blame any teachers who give up. Not like the parents fucking care either.
>>742326805well that's not going to work for long>people giving you security fixes for your game engine>it's all security flaws an AI found
>>742326805This is fine. I think if you use AI to help script or code for a game that's okay, but for the engine itself AI is not advanced enough to trust for something like that. For a game programmer making their own game if they want to use it that's different from pushing AI generated code to the codebase.
>>742326805AI has been defeated, tranxisters we finally did it........
>>742326805>>742326918Right, they aren't against ai in games, but to actual godot contributions. That's fair, might clogg up the engine.
Just imagine how many caveman tribes died out because they refused to accept and integrate fire due to its danger and environmental impact. Oh wait, none of them did that, because literal rock chucking savages are more intelligent than the average libtard luddite.
>>742327048>what if JeetPT does a better job coding than a college educated white manFucking lmao.
>>742328364there is a thing called code efficiency retardwhich can impact build/compilation times or how long a function takes to execute. sometimes coders write slop code that just werks but its an absolute fucking mess that can slow down the entire program. typical /v/fucking retards discussing shit they have 0 knowledge about
>>742345903but fire had immediately profitable applications and paid for itself within minutes
>>742345903Cavemen only started using fire when it could be used well enough to their purposes, getting lucky that a lightning hit your campfire isn't the same as knowing how to start the fire
>>742327048If that were the case then GODOT wouldn't be having to make this decision in the first place.
>>742345903>stop hunting the fire will hunt for us>stop gathering the fire will provide>do not share stories of the elders or the gods the fire will tell us what happenedYou’re dumber than a fucking caveman.
>>742344137>their ethicsLefties don’t have individual ethics. They just parrot what the hivemind says out of fear for being socially ostracized.
>>742347021And this is coming from the MIGA crowd?
>>742326805Question... does ai code have like a signature or something.... i assumed that if i ask it for help with something i can just copy it or try to replicate it? Like how do they know a peice of code is AI generated? Do coders just scream from the raptures "IM VIBE CODING"
>>742327048Ai is not super smart computersit's a lot of grunt work at heigh speeds So you are not really going to have breakthroughs you might find some efficient paths but price you pay is massive specially for a project with no finish line
>>742347454Pure code is often impossible to attribute. Comments are much easier to discern as ai but you can either change them manually or make the ai copy your style.tl;dr you can't tell the difference but people on /v/ are retards
Godot just wants another controversy after the Wokeot incident died down.
>>742347454Experienced coders can tell Because human problem solving patterns are different from AI
>>7423386514 out of 40 models scored better than a coin toss? Toldyer!!!! Economy saved. 25 trillion were wisely invested! Yass!
>>742338987>we're trying to help you, the retardsWhy though? Who asked for help?>it does.source?>Change is relatively slow, but it will comeso, not yet. Maybe in a few more weeks (lets say two)>It's not the AI that is bad, it's the people with bad intentionsHey you did the "it's not X, its Y" meme!>Why? Simply why?why not? what are you afraid of? You should wear it like a badge of honor!
>>742347713>Experienced coders can tellwith a success rate of 50% i.e. they can't
>>742326805>TroondotI do not care about their opinions on any topic regardless of what that topic may even be, same with the guys behind Librewolf.
>BE ANGRY, FELLOW PAJEETS
>>742338828It's deep embedded in llm ai. Llm right now are all keen on keeping engagement high, so if it has the chance to choose something that will likely trigger another response from you, it'll gladly make shit up. That's a main reason how llm engage in relationships with humans. The other way around actually.
>>742347454>Like how do they know a peice of code is AI generated?The same way people can tell this is AI generated, experience.
>>742327190>unity kills itself with ultra-jewry>unreal kills itself with terrible optimization and going all in on ai sloppa>godot will kill itself by becoming ultra leftwing >just like make game they saidit's all so tiresome.
>>742347167>anyone not left leaning supports israel>according to hyper leftistsimagine just proving his point for free.
>>742338818This. I love asking AI dumb random questions that pop up in my mind but don't care enough to verify nor affect my day to day if they are true or not.Then again I already did the same with a normal google search for the last 20+ years so I don't think that use case is worth the investment.
>>742349024>ask ai lots of silly questions about cats>cross check some of them>answers seem legitwell then...
>>742341746>Realistically AI generated code which is actually goodThis will only be generated by real programmers using AI as it's supposed to be used, so there is no issue. Meanwhile AI struggles to shit me a working .bat to count folders recursively so I serioulsy doubt bad AI code is that hard to detect and purge.
>>742334093>Two english sentances is ramblingMorning sar
>>742338651We’re starting to see a real divide between thinking human beings and the dreck that has held the species back all this time. Reliance on AI is the mark of a burden that must be shed.
>>742349197curious now, does this work?t. linux user@echo offsetlocal EnableExtensions EnableDelayedExpansionif "%~1"=="" ( echo Usage: %~nx0 "path\to\root" exit /b 1)set "ROOT=%~1"if not exist "%ROOT%" ( echo Not found: "%ROOT%" exit /b 1)set /a COUNT=0for /f %%D in ('dir "%ROOT%" /ad /s /b ^| findstr /r /v /c:"\\$"') do ( set /a COUNT+=1)echo Folder count: %COUNT%endlocal
>>742326805BUT IT'S THE NEXT FUCKING STEAM ENGINEAI IS THE NEW STEAM ENGINEDON'T YOU LIKE THE FUCKING STEAM ENGINE DO YOU HATE PROGRESS!??!?!?!
>>742347713As a outsider lookin in.... i feel like if i coding i would want it to just work. They're like no it has to be broken and and bug ridden just for the sake of it.
>>742327048You want to know the fun part? It already is better on average of what a human could write. Especially with anthropic releasing sonnet 5 anyone could make their own game engines and start doing something fun and amazing. This is just a long series of multiple open source projects killing themselves and proving to the whole world that Open source as we know it is pretty much dead. Since people don't want to get off their high horses and actually let people contribute to their project. It's a shame but you can already start to see it with multiple things like that closed fork of Godot. AI coding, with AI agents is the future but you have these people who don't want to use status and money so they area going to gatekeep actual meaningful projects from being touched. And this is going to be a massive loss for open source in general.
>>742349457Nope. It insta closes even if I add a "pause" at the end.
>>742347918>Ask coder "So how did you learn to code?">Answer now makes it 100% accurate that they Ai vibe code
>>742328942Never going to happen jeetgroid. The future is greed and enshitification. Everything becoming browner and worse.
>>742328953unless those people were forcing them to put pro Trump shit in their game engine then no, that's retarded you NEET eurotard
>>742349197just do a .ps1
>>742329484LMAOI heard everybody is jumping off a bridge, you should do it too or are you betting against them? They are all doing it, that should be reason enough for you do it too!Look everybody how retarded this guy is! It's genuine!
>>742327048It would only be because the ai stole code from a human. Have you seen ai code based on ai code? It is like reading hieroglyphs.
>>742350047>just use the crappy console that shows ads to do the most basic operation imaginablehmmmnyo
>>742349713did you call it with a path to the folder from a terminal?
>>742350049>vomiting all this bile over... nothingYou're mentally ill.
>>742347918First of all, if you don't comment your code I don't accept it.
>>742350175No, I created a file named 742349457.bat in np++ and pasted the code. I asked for a .bat not a cmd string.If I have to edit it at all the AI failed for all I care.
>>742350239You're barely sentient. Don't be late at the bridge jumping, chop chop, don't want to be the last one don't you?
>>742345373>trusting a literal psychopath and democrat
>>742345351Unit tests written by AI shouldn't be a problem, either they do not work or they do and find an issue, it's not like you get stuck with garbage code like vibe coders.
>>742350370Well it works for me so the problem is clearly you.
>>742326918>>742327219>>742327342>>742327619Permanent underclass
>>742350814Good for you :)
>>742349457>echo Usage: %~nx0 "path\to\root">>742350175>did you call it with a path to the folder>>742350370>Nolol.How is it supposed to know what folder to look at?
ai prs kill any communityno one wants to review 500 changes a day that ostensibly pass tests but make no sensei only do that at work because i'm getting paid to, and even there i'm reaching my limit
>>742351034Not my problem mate I have several .bat files that do different things (like converting audio formats, delete specific extensions or under X filesizes, etc) I can freely move around to any folder whatsoever in any drive whatsoever and double click and just work.
>>742348998Anyone bought in to the two party system in America is a nigger for Israel.
>>742350827>dirty salesman fear tacticNever going to buy AINever going to take the vaxxI just won't take it (the AI), that's all. AI? Git merge rejected. HAHAHA
>>742351215You... you move the script to where it is supposed to run..?
>>742351312I'm no programmer anon. It works for what I need. If there is a better alternative that's faster than pressing ctrl+v + enter pray tell.
>>742328953>ngl thats based, no compromise with the opposition
>>742351215If you want hard-coded to analyze the current directory, then you should specify that.In software engineering, there are these things called requirements, and they need to be communicated because developers don't read minds. Neither do large language models.
>>742351486idk if it works for you that's fine i guess but as a linux user this concept seems really alien to me
>>742326805Luddites.
>>742351486I'm not him, but having to move a program around to make it operate on different files/folders is not a normal use case, which is why nobody is going to give you a program that behaves that way if you don't specifically ask for it.
>>742347021Righties don't have individual ethics. They just do the opposite of the Left out of spite.
>>742327048If AI is so good and vibe"coders" so smart why don;t they just fork the open-source project and make a better version with AI use? They won;t of course since the whole point of AI is to force slop into places no one wants it and the browns will seethe if they get excluded.
>>742351631Computer-using-luddites, a concept so retarded a LLM must have written it.Oh the guy refusing to eat at the Chinese restaurants because he's concerned about the cleanliness of the place? He hates eating, he probably never ate a single thing in his whole life I say.
>>742351531>>742351730I would consider being able to be moved around to be the most basic requirement of a .bat file but what do I know. For me, that's the very reason they are a file.>>742351561I imagine, but from my very limited knowledge I can't fathom anything that doesn't require either to edit the file for each run, or me having to invert the order to move things to the folder instead of moving the file to the folder. Might just be me using them for the most basic shit imaginable like running ffmpeg scripts.
>>742327190QRD?
I get the strangest feeling we have a few bots in this thread
>>742352128Hey—let’s not jump to “bots” based on a vibe. New people can ask odd questions, misunderstand, or reply quickly, and that’s enough without assuming automation. If something looks suspicious, focus on the specific behavior (links, scams, repeated patterns) rather than labeling the whole thread.
>>742346340>a thing>one thousand different definitions because anon keeps thinking that 'efficiency' is a stand-in for 'uhhh its gooder code'lol
>>742327775It doesnt.
>>742351973Right Click > Open in Windows Terminal bro. If you added your scripts folder to PATH you just type your script name which could be only a few characters.If that's too much typing you can straight up add new executable files to your right click menu in regedit
>>742326805its open source, just fork it *shrug* imagine being anti computer do thing for me while programming computers, I hope you don't use speedtree or auto edge detect oh wait literally everyone does.the sooner it ca write the basics itself the less I have to read these bullshit articles once a day along with government betrayal and shitty corpo practices ruining everything else
>>742328340>AIfag can't read and use his own brainno surprise
>>742352370I doubt that will be faster than my current method of copying the script once, pasting, press enter, next folder, press enter, loop, but I guess it will be fun to try. Thanks.
>>742351973>being able to be moved aroundThat's different from needing to be moved around. Obviously you CAN move it. But if you ask someone to write you a script (and yes a .bat file is a script) to operate on a directory, then naturally they will write it to take the desired directory as an input so that you don't have to move it around in order to use it.If you want non-obvious behavior then you need to ask for it. Even an AI could write you a script that operates on the script's own folder by default if you tell it to do so, which you obviously didn't. But the real problem is that you're willing to run code from the Internet without even looking at it. You ran>>742349457 with zero understanding of what it does, or else you would have immediately seen that it expects an input. It is ONLY because anon is so kind and generous that you still have any files on your disk. He could have given you a script to delete everything and you would have just saved and double-clicked it like an ape. If you're going to use other people's scripts then learn the scripting language for your own safety. And at that point, maybe just start writing your own scripts or modifying others' code to suit your needs instead of whining that people didn't randomly guess your ass-backwards use case.
>>742352546>if you ever got a vaccine in your life that means you must accept getting the experimental gene therapy covid injectionHey buddy, you just blew in from NPC town?
>>742352832>You ran>>742349457 with zero understanding of what it doesAnon I did read it, even I am not dumb enough to recognize echo, exit and a for loop I myself wrote before several times. There was nothing dangerous there. If there was a command I never saw before I wouldn't have done it.
>>742352218Bot thread bot thread post favorite bots mine is the Sazabi
>>742352231>doesnt realize the context that is talked about>retard thinks its a gotcha
>>742344536if anyone ever asks you what your thought process was at any point, or if something doesn't work how it should and you are tasked to fix it, it will be very obvious.
>>742353085But you didn't actually understand what is does, because you didn't know why it immediately exited even with a pause at the very end.
>>742335409isnt that called milk?
>>742354203The most it could do with the presented commands was to print "ur a fagit" with an ascii dickbutt under it.But I'll take your advice to heart and actually bother using the sandbox I have already installed. Thanks for that.
>>742327048>if
>godot>slopdotI use my own Lolidot fork.
>>742330724This baseless opinion goes against the will of the great leader Musk the first. You will be underlings of the AI, and the AI will be the underling of our great leader.
>>742338987try to relax and divorce your identity from AI companies
>>742355191>pussy in bioqrd?
>>742326805>let third worlders "contribute" to their repository>literally nothing but AIjeet slopIt's a shocker, really. Who could've seen that coming?
>>742327885>B-but you're being CLOSE-MINDEDFuck you fag, gatekeeping is good.
>>742355454thats what bots on xitter posted a while back
>>742326805>Far right engine bans progressof FUCKING course
>>742326805That's a lot of words to say>we're tired of jeets spamming pull requests
>we-cant-trust-heavy-users-of-ai-to-understand-their-code-enough-to-fix-itSounds like a perfectly valid reason.
>>742356462It is. It's just not good PR when said people make 95% of the programming world.
>>742326805For real, do people even use this thing? Unironically asking that for real, not fake for real, for real for real, for real
>>742355990>its da faaaarrrriiiiiite
>>742329867rust is ass
>>742326805Just fork it, stupid woke engine
>>742326805no one uses godot so this is just sensational nonsense to appease anti ai retards
>>742355990>vibe coding>progressIf you can't understand what is written, you're getting chinked by the AI
>>742356661The top selling game of the year did apparently, for what that's worth.
>>742326805Kek is this even relevant? its not like it was unreal engine 5 who did it or will ever do it.
>>742351747This message brought to you by the party whose only guiding principle is "TRUMP BAD"
>>742356898At least post the better one.
>>742326805damn shame trannies infiltrated Godot and made it political.unrelated to ai of course.
>>742352218lulz
>>742351504he halted himself, thinking>no Lisa, don't show your masculine urge to get angry, there are real girls around observing my behavior, it will harm my infiltration efforts
>>742352218Heh.
>>742357184Baka gaijin
How do we feel about games that use LLMs for programming?
>>742327190no
>>742327226I literally was trying to solve something not working in a custom extension for my work's app, I copy pasted the code onto an AI and it rewrote it entirely saying it was wrong, obviously it didn't work, so I copy pasted the generated code that the AI supposedly fixed, and it told me it was still full of bugs and broken so it fixed it again.At the end of the day the original code was correct and the bug was somewhere else, which obviously I manually fixed without AI because every time I've tried to use it, it only has shit out useless garble.
>>742357949If the person using it can understand the code and see when the LLM fucked it up, it's fine."Vibe coding" retards will cause a hacker apocalypse.
>>742327226Can AI even simulate a valid environment to test what it shits out?
>>742328545I think a majority of RPGmaker games count as vibecoded if you ask me.You think those people know what the hell they're doing?
>>742356953Let's be real, almost all indie games could use godot and nothing whatsoever would change besides not having to pay royalties.Godot only blunders when you want to make something with heavy and advanced 3d graphics or you want to port the game to consoles.
>>742330142yeah exactly>have no talent or influence in art sphere>throw money and demand artist cater to BIG JEWISH DICK right cucks really are stupid goycattle lmao
>>742357949i feel that they're embarrassing
>>742349675>It already is better on average of what a human could write.Half of the time, the other half it is fucking retarded.And a "vibe coder" can't distinguish and just paste everything and hope it works, and when it don't in obvious ways, it's back to the slop machine.The end result is a "work on my machine" monstrosity with a trillion exploits and race conditions waiting to happen, because for the vibe coder "it worked in my 10 second test so it's good enough".
>>742327048Anyone who's stupid enough to need AI to code for them should just fuck off. They aren't a real coder, they bring nothing to a development project other than delusions and tech debt.
>>742358181Yes.
>>742358439k
>>742358362What's wrong with that? Going back to the slop machine 200 times in 1 day is cheaper, faster, and better than hiring 200 coders who each need to spend a week debugging a giant game engine.
>>742358658Besides the part where the game will only work on your machine and you have no way to tell why?
>>742358889>Gemini, why is this game only working on my PC and not with anyone else's computer?Easily solved. AI can do this in 2 minutes where a human will spend 6 years gaining the experience that lets them know where to look in 2 minutes to see what is causing this.
There continues to only be one positive application of AI.
>>742359058The context window is too small to actually pull it off successfully.Also i can guarantee you it will break something else.And there are several cases that you can't even describe to gemini if you don't know programming.
This is the power of ai
Vibe-Coding has completely killed my trust in open source projects since it made it trivial for retards to sneak malicious code into major projects, or to make a seemingly innocent program that's actually malicious.
>>742326805That engine has the stinky aura of elitism around it despite its main purpose being the smallest shittiest indie games. Im never touching it.
>>742359058Admittedly, Gemini did help me figure out how to set up Fallout 4 porn mods more than the site itself.>duuuur look at the manualFuck'em. Hope Todd updates F4 and screws up all their mods again.
>>742358658>time to start working on version 1.00.001!>ehm...
>>742359570lol what did you ask it?>gem, plz help with fallout 4 coom mods
>>742359570That's because most people suck at writing technical instructions. AI actually helps in interpreting this, especially if it can websearch.
>>742360123Just basic errors that the forums weren't giving me proper answers. Everything over there is a mess because one fag wants to hide everything behind Discord.You don't know how bad Adult mods for F4 really are my dude, don't do it.
>>742359570Downloading mods can't be that hard anon...
>>742360484Porn ones can be.
>>742327048Then they wouldn't ban it. The problem is that we're not there yet.Kinda. They literally say they just don't trust people using it because they can't fix it which makes sense.
>>742361138>They literally say they just don't trust people using it because they can't fix it which makes sense.I don't know people are acting like we knew how to fix shit we made when half the time we were just working on hopes and prayers.https://youtu.be/R_b2B5tKBUM?si=EwomhoXShU5X8zCz
>>742327048"But what if i couldn't read/write english but pretended to and forced you to join a meeting every time instead of communicating basic shit over instant messaging"every indian co-worker ever
>>742360730It's just folders and zip files my man...
>>742362070Not every mod site hosts porn ones.
>>742361761Don't joke about that. It keeps happening at work.>ask jeet something on slack>"hello saar, quick call??"NO! JUST TELL ME IN SLACK!
>>742361572At least without AI there is some hope in fixing your mistake. Open source projects have been getting increasingly annoyed by vibe coding, it's just more trouble than its worth for now. Eventually AI will win though.
>>742328331if that would have worked 4chan would have blocked pajeets from shilling on here
>>742362313>Open source projects have been getting increasingly annoyed by vibe codingWrong, they're getting annoyed by an increased frequency of PRs. You need to understand that most open-source project members hate PRs from people aren't part of the inner circle. Now anyone can make contributions with AI, and it's driving project maintainers nuts. It has nothing to do with quality.
>>742360469bethesda modding in general is fucked.the main patches and script extenders for fallout got problems and the one guy who fixed them prompted a massive meltdown because he used AI to find and patch things.
>>742362716>It has nothing to do with quality.The code being readeable, understandable and easily fixable is a considerable part of FOSS quality.
>>742362895When I made my post, I didn't even see Godot's tweet about it. LMAOIt's not about quality.
>>742362972preventing aijeets from farming fake contributions is about quality
>>742344536>anon, why did you do it this way? what is the purpose of this function?
>>742363063Contribution quality has become objectively higher per PR.
>>742346340no one cares about compile times, unless it's monsterous
>>742326805https://isaiprofitable.com/
>>742363274is that why there are major outages caused by aislop every month?
>>742362972Godot won't exist anymore in 5 years time.
>>742347918>reduce 100,000 jeet pull requests to 50,000 jeet pull requests via quick perusal sounds like it's a pretty good first pass solution
>>742350814please feed the correct result into your favorite AI then so it comes up again
>>742327048LLMs don't think rajsheit, it's a glorified chatbot that just pulls from shit it scrapped from reddit and other shitholes.And present it in a way like it made the thing Nothing about it is intelligent
>>742363472>Taking a 50% shotI see you play xcom.
>>742363378True, it's never been easier to build your own engine. Hell, it's probably smarter to do that now. An engine designed for your game is easier to change and optimize.
HOT TAKE: It is not necessary to understand the code you're submitting. Because at any point in time, ANYONE can simply ask the AI to explain how it works.This is under the condition that it's high quality code. It's a different story if it's low quality code.
>>742364381I'm gonna make my own engine for my dream text-based game :D
>>742364145I am an xcom fan, yes
>>742327773>>742328364>performance is not a metric Do you work on the Unreal Engine?
>>742365282Oh yeah. Post your steam hours on any of the Xcom games.
>>742326805telling when "AI" isn't smart enough to make code that it can't self-regulage kek
>>742362273Exactly, because they can't read/write english well
>>742326805I get vibe coding but not using AI at all? Are they retarded? Do they want the code written by hand too?
>>742367050Don't you even think of ctrl+c and ctrl+v either.
>>742326805>irrelevant obsolete reddit language taking a stand against AIHoly shit it's fucking nothing
>>742328803they don't know how to
>>742367719what?
>>742326805After having to fix vibe coded garbage for a good while now I'm genuinely becoming more a gatekeeper with every passing day
>>742326805how are they going to know it's ai?
>>742369345Wouldn't this just make people go to AI more if you push them away?
>>742348932SDL wins by doing absolutely nothing
>>742369472If it's good enough to fool everyone then it's good enough to use, but it's literally never good enough to fool anyone
>>742370749And how would you know?Its not like you've ever been fooled before, have you?
Why don't you guys just make a fork thats pro AI and beat them at their own game since AI code is better? Could it be you are wrong and dont actually know what you are talking about?
