because Cachy has better optimizations. SteamOS is the NPC default option. Not saying that's a bad thing.

>>742412796
Read the last sentence in the pic.

>Saves PC gaming
>Some other stuff happens
>Ruins all gaming with unfinished patched later game model

>>742412796
>saves pc gaming
>by being a less powerful console than a regular console

>>742412796
Is it out yet? I'm on this outdated nobara version and I really need to switch to something

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You could just install Arch or Catchy and use Nvidia there if you prefer Nvidia. Also d7vk is good but some games are still better with other wrappers.

>>742412913
fuck you, I will

>>742412796
>Why aren't you installing it?
Because it's an OS for gaming only

>>742412796
I use my PCs for other shit and I don't wanna dual boot
if hardware prices weren't so FUCKED I'd make my own steam machine for fun probably

I'm a first worlder with an NVIDIA GPU.

>>742413105
it's out
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/65B4-2AA3-5F37-4227#install

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>>742413452
superpower saar

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>>742412796
I'm already using Arch. I have no use for SteamOS

>>742413456
based, after I'm done playing a game, it's install time baby

>can't even play most popular multiplayer games like 2025s best selling game of the year: Battlefield 6
>buying AMD graphics in 2026 when they're as irrelevant as ever
>all you have to do is just forfeit app and game compatibility to save £3 on a Windows 11 key.

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>>742413754
fuck you, fuck nvidia, fuck binbows, fuck your whole family, fuck evberything you stand for

>>742413825
Meds. Now.

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>>742412796
gulp

>>742413754
>no, you see, i'm such a fucking goy i'm still really into the worst genre of games
>no, i want to pay 50% more for equivalent performance bracket
>i'm too stupid to dual boot for the few things that don't work

Because it's Linux and i have a 5080.
Microfag is squeezing about 10 to 15% more performance out of Nvidia.
I also have a niche need where i need to emulate Android so i can play gacha slop, something that can't be done on Linux with Nvidia.

>>742413951
>stop enjoying games
>wanting to pay for any AMD card at all when they keep making blunder after blunder like RDNA 4 not supporting RDNA 5 tech like FSR diamond because everyone at Radeon lacks forward thinking unlike nvidia who set a standard in 2018 and stuck to it
>dualbooting for the sake of being extra when literally everything works on windows anyway, in a memory and storage crisis where a secondary ssd just for linux is at least £100 in current pricing

>>742413646
How does Nvidia have an almost 10% Jewish workforce?

>>742412796
it's too locked down for me, i think it's for couch gaming or their hardware, i'll stick with cachy

>>742414175
>stop enjoying games
ah yes, compslop, well known for people enjoying it

>wanting to pay for any AMD card at all when they keep making blunder after blunder like RDNA 4 not supporting RDNA 5 tech like FSR diamond because everyone at Radeon lacks forward thinking unlike nvidia who set a standard in 2018 and stuck to it
are you going to pretend like nvidia isn't gatekeeping ai slop features behind generations?

>dualbooting for the sake of being extra when literally everything works on windows anyway, in a memory and storage crisis where a secondary ssd just for linux is at least £100 in current pricing
so you would choose to suck dick for a day's wage?

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>>742414116
>something that can't be done on Linux with Nvidia.
Waydroid refuses to work? What a shame, but expected.

>>742414496
Yeah, i tried switching to Linux like one year ago and i keep trying to make it work but no dice.
I really like having Azur Lane on my PC, and the kikes and microsoft let me have that.
The second that changes ill switch.

>>742412796
>>742412913
Steam uses Arch Linux for their handhelds. That's why you can jailbreak them and use them as regular computers.

>>742413018
SteamOS isn't a console nor does it have performance worse than any consoles, because you can use it with a 9070 XT. That's a card way more powerful than any console IGP. Never go full retard.

Big Picture is anything but seamless and console like. Especially if you want to launch shit that isn't on steam.

>>742414645
>jailbreak them
you just enter the bios?
do you think you're jailbreaking prebuilts and laptops?

>>742414538
but AI code... but telemetry I can't turn off because I'm computer illiterate...
I AM VERY SMART!! YOU ARE INDIAN!!

>>742414709
Being able to use anything other than the vendor store (steam in this case) is a very non-console experience to begin with. You should never do that if you're looking for a console feel.

>>742414761
computer literacy comes with dignity retard
if you can still tolerate jeetdows's default behaviors you're perfect cattle

>>742412796
steamos is great for the 90% of PC games it can run
but if you want to play the 10% it can't you have no recourse but to use windows or an actual console

>>742414859
schizo cope.

>>742415125
have you ever jailbroken or rooted a phone?
if not then you shouldn't be talking, you're fundamentally too brown to understand what dignity is

>>742414645
>jailbreak them
you don't know what that means.
You're not breaking any law by tinkering with your computersoftware.
That's not a locked down system.
This was always allowed.

>>742414854
>(steam in this case)
Wrong. The vendor store would be Microsoft Store. Linux doesn't even have one.
Don't know about OSx though.

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>>742413151
I did half my uni coursework on my Steam Deck when my laptop died.

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>>742414645
>Jailbreak
Do ibabbies call everything not intended by the developer jailbreaking

>>742413456
is it better than Bazzite? i tried that a few months ago and I liked the built-in config but hated the immutable OS factor and using flatpak apps

>>742415174
NTA but some people (like me) prefers windows because it's easier to deal with.
I personally have used Linux, have it on my raspberry Pi which I use it as a sftp server, torrent server, adblocker and git repo. Occasionally also as a wifi bridge but holy fuck its wireless antenna is terrible for that.

I don't condone anyone using Linux if they're comfortable with it, but it's not my piece of cake, at the moment (although I am considering buying another SSD to just put there CachyOS and see how differently it handles memory allocation but I'm just autistic for optimization).

Linux biggest flaw is that it requires tinkering, and people hate tinkering in any form. The moment you start mentioning "instructions" to install anything is the moment you're losing a potential user, because the alternative is literally as simple as clicking a .exe file.

The fact that PC has so many choices when it comes to how can be used is by itself a crucial difference between it and consoles, where you're basically tied to whatever operating system the corporation put inside.

t. W10 IoT 21H2 user with telemetry turned off

>>742412796
>Linux
>No age verification: full privacy on the internet, as free speech and civilization demands it
>Open source
>No spyware

If this isn't you, you are literally unironically and I mean it retarded. Like actually not very intelligent, like more bestial than human, not really bearing a soul and the capacity for reason and deep introspection

>>742412796
Can I use SteamOS on a non-steam machine?

The real tech is to have three computers running mac windows and linux respectively

>>742412796
if only the steam machine wasn't gimped and over $1000

>>742417056
Yes
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/65B4-2AA3-5F37-4227#install

>>742416807
It's also immutable

>>742412796
>linux
Sorry, but I don't want to cut off my functionality and performance.

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>>742416807
>Bazzite
Because of Sony and /v/ countless spam after Concord bombed, every time I read that word my mind think of this.

>>742414325
>not an argument
>nvida DLSS supports every gen of RTX all the way back to 2018 which actually forced amd to backport FSR 4 to RX 7000 series, so if it wasn't for nvidia AMD would be even more incompetent than they are now
>not an argument

I accept your concession

>>742416807
Can't speak for SteamOS, but it's Arch based, and Arch is not immutable. If I'm wrong, consider CachyOS, it's what I use and it's not immutable. I stopped using Bazzite because I was annoyed by the same thing. I'm sure some people appreciate that kind of thing, but it's not for me.

>>742417135
It was a great idea 3 years ago before Sam raped the personal computing market.

>>742417858
SteamOS is immutable. It's a snapshot of Arch in a specific place in time. Speaking of which, when the fuck is Valve going to rebase the image?

>>742417763
yes, wanting to do the equivalent of video game heroin is not an argument

nvidia's old cards don't actually support new dlss on the hardware level and it runs worse than native

you chose to save a day's wage to be a goyslave like a consolecuck

>>742417898
indeed i would have got one then. even just one year ago would have been much better

>>742418254
Gotcha, thanks for clarifying.
I'd recommend CachyOS then.

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>>742418395
>I'd recommend CachyOS then.

>>742418574
>file.png
microjeet lmao

>>742418574
And?

>>742418574
Is that really the only ammo you have? Better than Windows forcing flags on your desk.

>>742418708
What if I don't want to cut off my dick?

>>742418778
It's an operating system, not a time machine. You need to live with you decisions.

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>>742412796
No thanks

>>742418342
Telling people they shouldn't play games because it doesn't fit into your ideal worldview isn't an argument.

Nvidias old cards can still run it, AMDs cannot. I remember when AMD shills used to brag about fine wine, but suddenly it doesnt matter that a 2070 super can run DLSS 4 and gain massive performance while the equivalent RX 5700XT can't utilise FSR 4. AMD shills need the rope.

I choose to save money because I'm not a cuck like you who voluntarily spends money to install an inferior operating system for app and game support. You're the PC equivalent of a Sony shill. Worse somehow equals better to you.

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>>742412796
>Why aren't you installing it?
I play way to many games with anti cheat that doesn't work with linux

>>742418869
You're clearly not working in tech. Most coding jobs utilize Linux for servers and pay quite well.

>>742418930
telling people that they should stay on windows because of the shittiest, most anticonsumer, most rage inducing genre of games known to man isn't an argument

nvidia's old cards can't run new dlss, it runs worse than native
get this through your thick fucking skull

you are spending money on an inferior operating system, jeetdows runs worse and less efficiently than linux along with not respecting its user

Unrelated but it's insane how there isn't one single decent Windows frontend that imitates the "console experience". I spent way too much time testing shit like Playnite and it never comes even close to being good enough.

Well actually, Steam is pretty fucking good. But it doesn't auto-detect pirated games, or even simply games installed outside of the Steam ecosystem which I have a lot of, and I don't want to manually add everything.

Playnite can auto-detect it, but the problem is that it is purely for launching games. It doesn't scratch the autism of being capable of browsing the steam store, browsing update news, reviewing your settings, rebinding your controller and so on.

>>742419265
>jeetdows runs worse and less efficiently than linux
How much do they pay you for this lie?

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>>742419454
linux is free, winjeet

>>742419265
amd's old cards can't run new fsr. it flat out doesn't work at all. meanwhile the oldest rtx cards can run dlss 4.0 just fine.
get this through your thick fucking skull

>>742419012
Picture unrelated.

>>742419925
you mean cards that were made before fsr?
ok?
pascal can't run dlss

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>>742414709
>if you want to launch shit that isn't on steam
Then a seamless, console-like experience was never an option for you. That is walled garden shit the babies like that you will only get if you stay in a single ecosystem like steam, and even then, yeah you actually need to know how to spell and type every once in a while at some point on the 'eck.
For those who don't want to read or understand consumer level electronics, you have actual consoles for that.

>>742412796
sar, please kindly buy ad

>saves PC gaming by allowing you to play 2d platformers at 1080p 30fps

Yep still not buying thre steam machine :)

>>742419573
But you have to buy AMD and use Linux, and then stick to the games which actually work.
I'm a man. I'm not confused about my sexuality. I don't need to flowery up my desktop in any way.
I will never ever be poor enough to buy AMD.

>>742419925
Brother, my maxwell card can't run DLSS4. Can't run DLSS1 either afaik.

>>742420051
rx 7000 series came out before fsr 4, they still managed to backport it years later thanks to nvidia owning their ass and because of amd buyers remorse after seeing dlss become the next big thing since sliced bread. it doesn't work on older cards because amd were too retarded back then and still are now.
see >>742414175
>wanting to pay for any AMD card at all when they keep making blunder after blunder like RDNA 4 not supporting RDNA 5 tech like FSR diamond because everyone at Radeon lacks forward thinking unlike nvidia who set a standard in 2018 and stuck to it

>>742412796
I've been an arch user for over a decade. I don't want a slightly different arch.

>>742420259
You are a faggot. Only cock sucking homosexuals use Linux and buy AMD.
Prove me wrong.

>>742420279
>meanwhile the oldest rtx cards can run dlss 4.0 just fine.
>rtx
who the fuck mentioned gtx cards?

>>742420205
>i'm a man
>proceeds to virtue signal and start calling things gay because he's too stupid and stunted for them
maybe what a nigger's perception of a man is
actual men are explorers, they enjoy freedom, not bitchy children like you that actually enjoy the bondage

>>742413018
Retard.

>>742420401
>Buys AMD
>Uses Linux
>Proceeds to explain how he likes his men.
faggot

>>742420342
https://unlocked.microsoft.com/pride/

>>742412796
>Why aren't you installing it?
Because I work on this PC and I can't really risk having some weird incompatibility with a client's VDI. Also because I have an nvidia GPU, and I don't see a reason to introduce the occasional compatibility issue or performance drop in my games just to say I'm using Linux. I can use the steam link app with a firetv stick and stream big picture mode to the living room and get 99% of the user experience as-is without the drawbacks.

>>742412982
>Ruins all gaming with unfinished patched later game model
I would lay that at the feet of consoles going online and getting the ability to patch. PCs always had patching, but it wasn't easy to fix an N64 game. By the time of the 360/PS3 that started to shift.

>>742420387
Oh what's that, my card is too old? I thought nvidia didn't do that and this was only an AMD problem.
DLSS4 runs like shit on RTX 3xxx series too by the way.

>>742418574
All Linux distros are pozzed in some way. You gotta pick the one that's the least pozzed.

>>742420476
I've never had to look that up because I don't suck off other men. Glad you found it though.

>>742420461
>Proceeds to explain how he likes his men.
you mean what you did here? >>742420205


>>742420515
>i-it doesn't count when a corporation full of jeets that i'm loyal to does it!!!

>>742412796
can't you vegan cultists just shut up about this already

>>742420576
No. I was describing AMD Linux users. I thought it was pretty clear.

>>742420496
>entire conversation is about rtx cards, the new brand and new hardware standard nvidia established in 2018
>retard starts talking about graphics cards which came out in 2012
>retard can't tell the difference between gtx and rtx
are you really this retarded or trolling? i can't tell at this point.

my x1950 pro from 2006 can't run run ray tracing. fuck amd amirite

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>>742420617

>>742420659
yes, you're pretty clear about how you think andrew tate is an apex of masculinity, where insecurity and perception of you owns you

>>742420687
Nice way of coping I guess. Turns out nvidia does not let their new features run on incompatible hardware, just like AMD.

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>>742420617
retard

>>742420745
I don't follow him. From the minimal time I've listened to him he's not come across as wrong about anything.
Is he too manly for you faggots? Is he scary?

>>742420496
>DLSS4 runs like shit on RTX 3xxx series too by the way.
No it doesn't. I've been using DLSS 4.0 on a 3080 for years. It turns it into a 4K beast of a card. DLSS 4.0 and 4.5 aren't the same. DLSS 4.0 is the standard DLSS model Nvidia defaults to. 4.5 is just a bit better for the performance/ultra performance modes.

>>742420797
>NOOO STOP HECKIN CALLING OUT MY GOD GABE-SAMA. DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND I NEED TO BE A SUBMISSIVE LITTLE BITCH AND SUCK HIS BIG THICK COCK WHILE I FUND HIS MILLIONTH YATCH

>>742420823
that's what i wanted to hear
you're an insecure faggot and that's that

>>742420891
find yourself a tendie thread and go there instead
you don't have to cry

>>742420895
>you must listen to tate
>not really
>well as predicted you're a faggot because you listen to tate
I'm not even close to being the huge feltching homo that buys AMD and uses Linux.

>>742420823
...video games?

>>742420792
read:
>wanting to pay for any AMD card at all when they keep making blunder after blunder like RDNA 4 not supporting RDNA 5 tech like FSR diamond because everyone at Radeon lacks forward thinking unlike nvidia who set a standard in 2018 and stuck to it
nvidia had the foresight to see where gaming was headed and set a hardware standard with advanced ray tracing and machine learning acceleration. amd's same generation of cards didn't have this support, and ray tracing support in the rx 5000 series is still shaky at best. amd then had another hit at it with the rx 6000 series and RT performance still sucked ass and still didn't have a machine learning based upscaler. they had a THIRD go at it with the 7000 series and still flopped again with the same issues. it took them a whole 7 years to finally catch up to the standard nvidia set in 2018, and they still haven't fully caught up. RDNA 5 is going to be another shift in hardware spec for amd which will leave RDNA 4 (9070 xt) owners in the dust, again.

>>742412796
I like SteamOS for the Deck, but it's a bit too locked down for me to consider it a daily driver for PC. If I were to do Linux, I would probably get Fedora for its KDE Plasma support, since that's the best aspect of SteamOS besides gaming peripherals just working. Then again, it says right there
>Users should not consider SteamOS as a replacement for their desktop operating system.

>>742421056
>get asked about something
>respond
>"that isn't video games"
stop asking questions which aren't video games then fucking AMD homo

>>742421001
you're insecure and started talking about how your idea of masculinity is based around perception completely unprompted
your world view isn't shaped by reality, exactly what i'd expect from a jeet operating system user

>>742414645
>Jailbreaking is when you normally use a computer
The bar has been set lower.

>>742420891
>raped goy is so cult minded that he sees company logos and exclusively thinks about the celebrities involved
SteamOS proliferating represents a breakaway from the windows plantation. Whatever happens to the company doesn't impact me at all. Gabe Newell in particular hasn't meant anything to me since being interviewed by the dorito pope about L4D2 on gttv.

>>742421136
How many dicks have you sucked anon?

>>742421273
>winjeet completely loses the argument and starts talking about cock
what an amazing concession, thank you

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Linux Mint doesn't have LGBT shit in it and has sane rules. https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=83314

>>742421360
>you lost the argument.
I haven't made an argument.
I made a statement that only homosexuals use AMD and Linux and that I'm not poor enough to buy AMD.
Lots of pride attendants got furious with this and squirted out their buttplugs in anger.
If you think that's some sort of win then good for you.

I am an idiot with Linux but isnt Steamos Valve's a fork of Arch with some bells and whistles automatically included when there are other distros with the same bells and whistles included and other things? Does Steamos do anything unique ?

>>742421513
yes, you stated your kindergarten ick based estrogenated opinion like the sissy you are
you have no rational arguments against linux and you agree which is why you're pivoting to this, thanks

>>742421580
>no rational argument against Linux.
I have. It's shit. I refuse to ever lower my standards and purchase AMD.

>>742421629
you have already lowered your standards by using an operating system made by jeets that has been deteriorating for more than a decade

>>742421710
>jeets make an OS which is more popular than gays
who knew?

>>742421478
Take your meds, but yes Mint is based

>>742421792
greasy and unhealthy fast food is more popular than protein powder
are you going to argue that it's better? can you parse anything without going through your estrogenated hivemind consensus or is that too much to ask?

>>742421564
It gives you console-like experience. That's it. If you tried to set up Arch (or any other distro) to be like SteamOS it would be a Herculean effort.

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>>742421938
I made a graph for you to understand morer.

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>>742422028
Put some tags on to simplify it

>>742412796
>le Nvidia can't Linux meme
that's been dead for years, anon

>>742412796
I'm on bazzite
trust steam, but they are a company and subject to law, so not being dependant on them is how I do it

>>742413151
yeah its based
everything not gaming exists as a free web app somewhere why even run anything else

>>742422062
>scatcounter
lol

and yes, good things are less popular than bad things, as seen with protein powder and fast food
is this the toddler level argument you're trying to use?

>>742422259
Being homosexual is less popular and you seem to like it. You could be right.

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>>742421564
You're correct. SteamOS is basically the origin of those bells and whistles that distros like Bazzite then copy.

>>742422159
nvidia is pretty trash on Linux. I don't remember their drivers being as bad on Windows, but I never updated and used drivers that were like years out of date so maybe that helped.

>>742413452
post ram to prove youre not a larping third worlder gpus stopped being impressive when all companies started going retard on drivers
I am on second worlder level currently with 64 ddr5

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>>742422284
whites are only 6% of the world population
going by your retarded logic they're worse because the percentage has shrunk massively over the past century

>>742422460
>being white is a choice
I hate to break it to you Abdul but you aren't white.

>>742422534
there we go, you deflect from your retarded logic immediately when it's used against you
you really have nothing

>>742422558

>choosing OS
>choosing PC parts
>choosing to suck off men
>"being white"
one of them don't fit you silly AMD troon

Any virtual keyboard flatpak work on steamOS now that new update broke corekeyboard
>just use steam onscreen keyboard
Don't work half of time on desktop mode
>anything that isn't flatpak
Not going to build shit from source on the deck. Would get wiped by update anyway
>usecase?
Play hentai games with cheat via protontrick without going through the hustle of using steam input by loading it to the steam library.

>>742422627
no, you stated that less popular things are worse because you're an estrogenated bitch but you draw the line at whites
what does popularity mean to you then? are you too retarded to draw conclusions from your own statements?

Can I install SteamOS onto a Nintendo Switch directly or do I still need to install Ubuntu?

>>742422693
Whites aren't something you choose because of popularity. You will get deported.

>>742414709
Ha I was able to include Warcraft 3 classic reign of chaos & frozen throne on Steam and used their included controller feature to play a dead RTS with a controller

>>742422745
if whiteness was so good then it would be the majority of the planet according to your logic
why aren't they?

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>>742412796
waiting for nvidia support

>>742413697
>Arch user
>lolifan
these jokes write themselves

>>742416658
I really think the steam deck is where they should focus their effort one. The PC market is actually bloated with prebuilts, but Steam deck has got to be the only successful handheld PC.

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>>742422458
Good fucking lord. Way to make me feel inadequate.

>>742422736
Current SteamOS does not support ARM. The version for Steam Frame isn't released yet.

>>742422893
They have been for 4 years where tf you from?

>>742422893
Steam Machine fits and even more underserved niche than the Steam Deck. At least for Steam Deck there are viable alternatives.

>>742412796
>Why aren't you installing it?
i nearly bricked my old pc trying to go from w10 to w11 im scared to touch OS's

>>742423073
You don't brick a computer by changing the OS.

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>>742422830
Where's the joke though?

>>742422802
>I didn't choose to be gay
we know

>>742423234
You replied to him.

>>742423234
The joke is sex.

>>742422893
Amd doesnt have anything new until next year and what they have coming out likely wont fit valve's wants. Valve wont order a custom chip since amd wants like 10 million orders. They can go with intel's newer lines, but they probably dont want to spend the money on it and dont want to worry about drivers.

Unless they pivot toward arm, the 'eck line is out of commission until 2028

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>>742423073
>He thinks you can brick a PC by installing another OS

>>742423181
>>742423518
not after installing it no, but trying to yes i know i can im that retarded

>>742423618
No, seriously. You can brick your OS install and lose your data, but the computer itself doesn't get bricked from installing different OS whether you fail at it or not.

>>742423518
You can make a gaming PC turn into a non gaming PC by installing another OS

>>742423689
>You can brick your OS install and lose your data
well thats probably what i meant then when i cant even tell the difference between the two its probably best i dont fuck around with the OS kek

>>742412796
Nah fuck valve. Not giving them a single cent ever.

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>>742423238
see, the thing is that you have to make those retarded kindergarten insults based on speculation
while your own intellectual poverty is completely self evident considering you've been degraded to making vibes based arguments for your jeet os
if you truly were so eager to prove you're white you'd be using linux because that's by far its biggest demographic
but you won't since you're too retarded for it

>>742423858
I mean you could always just use some old computer that isn't valuable to you in terms of what is on it to try things. That's how you learn. It's not like I knew everything about computers when I was a child, I destroyed plenty of hardware (computers used to be full of traps).

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>>742423979
See anon, the good thing is that you don't need to

>>742424064
>You should use Linux
I like my stuff to work. I also don't like cuddles off men

>>742423689
>tfw you install Windows 11 onto your BIOS by mistake

>>742419090
Wagies time is worth less than nothing.
We all know how slow as fuck all people who get paid hourly work.

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>>742412796
>saves PC gaming
I get it's a joke, but proton layer really did save PC people from getting corralled into the windows 11 AI trap that was rigged to go.
Even console fags aren't immune and we're seeing a push to corral them into ID bullshit too (minus Nintendo since they lack messaging and voice chat).
Like, yeah the failure of the steam machine a 2nd time is a little funny and SteamOS being no where as good as other distros is a little funny, but their failure of the 2nd time is a success of their 1st attempt.
>1st attempt was trying to get other manufacturers to make their consoles for them, and failing dramatically, then expecting devs to make Linux versions of their games and failing horribly.
>This time they have manufacturers dabbing on them by making alternatives running Linux, Linux distros made alternatives that run laps around steam OS, and devs are working around proton layer to .make sure their games work on Linux.
Whole point was to get people to use Linux to avoid Microsoft from threatening to wall them out or charge them for access to Microsoft.
>>742412893
>Anything Arch based
I prefer Fedora.
Can't stand my install breaking every update.
SteamOS is surprisingly the only OS that did an arch distro well.

>>742412796
>>742424329
>>742422964
Because only buying AMD chips is no better than Nvida chips. Linux can run on anything but when SteamOS releases suddenly it’s important to choose AMD.

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i'll wait

I’d rather not associate myself with…those types.

>>742412796

>>742424783
>Can't stand my install breaking every update.
Why make up lame shit like that? I do some fucked up shit and my Arch hasn't broken in a long time even though I deserve it for what I've done.

>>742424361
but it does work
and you clearly like cuddling men when they're indian, hence why you're defending their operating system so much

>>742424878
you already associate yourself with tendies who are most likely to be fags and troons

https://glaad.org/glaad-gaming/2024/1-in-5-active-gamers-are-lgbtq/
The vast majority, 69%, of LGBTQ gamers play 4+ hours per week on PCs or consoles, compared to 64% of non-LGBTQ gamers. LGBTQ and non-LGBTQ gamers report similar percentages regarding which platforms they use and which genres they play. The exceptions are 39% of LGBTQ gamers who play on the Nintendo Switch consoles, compared to 32% of non-LGBTQ gamers. LGBTQ gamers are also more likely than non-LGBTQ gamers to play on a Nintendo Switch Lite (12% versus 9%).

>>742425017

Okay. Why should I care what other people do or who they fuck? They aren’t me.

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>>742424783
>StEAMOs wOrKs
No it doesn’t

>>742425091
you've answered yourself, tendietroon >>742424878

>>742424361
Works on my machine.
User error.

>>742414645
It's not really jailbreaking if they never tried to lock it to begin with.

>>742425107
>posts a website/server error, completely detached from the OS that will literally happen given the same conditions on any other OS
You for real?

>>742425143

Not those types. I mean…them. PCfags. I’d rather not associate with their kind.

>>742425287
you mean people smarter than you because they don't make decisions based on their incompetence?

>>742413754
W11 draws way too much power

>>742425480

If that’s what you wanna think, okay.

>>742413151
What else would I need it for?

>>742425602
you don't think, you feel
because you're a consolenig

>>742412796
>popularizes licenseship over ownership
>lets crapcom add retroactive DRM that stops game you bought form working on hardware they used to
>say bad word = money stolen
>wegslop and vibecoded assetflips galore
>literal scam of a crowdfunding system
Steam was a net negative for gaming, and so will be the OS.

>>742425809

You might be onto something actually. Hate is quite liberating.

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>valve could add a 20 dollar disc drive to steam machine to dunk on snoys and xbots
they probably wont but it would be so funny

>>742425856
>popularizes licenseship over ownership
you were always sold a license, steam just spelled it out

>lets crapcom add retroactive DRM that stops game you bought form working on hardware they used to
valve believes that piracy is a valid way to express discontent, do it

>say bad word = money stolen
you're making this up

>wegslop and vibecoded assetflips galore
things you don't like can exist, get over it

>literal scam of a crowdfunding system
as opposed to not having early access at all where only big corpos benefit? shalom schlomo

>>742425921
There is nothing to do with a disc drive on PC. Except watch BD movies, but those are so locked down by DRM so good luck watching them on a device that isn't locked down.

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>>742414645
>jailbreak
jesus christ
installing an os is "jailbreaking" now
holy shit

>>742412796
I'm on nvidia and intel, because I was retarded at the time (forgive me), so I'll have to wait until they get it working with my hardware - which sounds like it won't be "too long", since Valve and nvidia are in talks regarding this.
I'm looking forward to it. I got the SteamDeck just to fuck around with the desktop mode, must say I like it. First experience with Linux; it is nice not having to install the OS, to fuck around with anything, to just have it working out of the box. That's at least what makes it appeal to me, and why I never went into Linux sooner.
>>742412893
That's fair, some of us are unfortunately NPC tier when it comes to tech, I freely admit to it; it's too confusing, even if it might be simple..you know how boomers are with trying to understand "new things", it's like that for me.
>>742412913
Is that because they only focus on game-compatibility, and won't much touch or tinker with compatibility for non-gaming software run through desktop-mode?
Was kind of hoping I could incorporate my job, my hobby (music production) and gaming with SteamOS.
I guess I could try setting it all up on my Steam Deck to test
>>742414645
Pretty sure part of the marketing has always been "you can do whatever you want with it" to paraphrase

>>742424361
>too low IQ for Linux
>gay enough to unironically suck off microcock
World's Dumbest Fag

>>742425921
Cant you already do that via a usb?

>>742426138
>you were always sold a license, steam just spelled it out
Last I checked, my SNES cartridges haven't expired yet
>valve believes that piracy is a valid way to express discontent, do it
What a cope, "it's ok if my product is bade because you can pirate it"
>you're making this up
lol, bootlicker in denial
>things you don't like can exist, get over it
a cancer enthusiast
>as opposed to not having early access at all where only big corpos benefit? shalom schlomo
"saar, you have to do the mindful of paying for no product"

>>742426554
Why are you being such a pedantic dork. You're in every thread being a real stinky loser. Let people enjoy things, and enjoy things yourself.
This negativity and bittnerness - though you'll deny it, even as it is glaringly present - impacts your overall happiness, it will also manifest physically in ways that are not to your advantage. Go have fun retard anon, it's summer after all

>>742426554
>Last I checked, my SNES cartridges haven't expired yet
neither have my steam games?
if you're insecure about the longevity of your downloads just back your fucking games up
you're still getting a license and it's up to you to archive it if that's what you want

>What a cope, "it's ok if my product is bade because you can pirate it"
valve didn't choose to do it
what means of protest do you have on consoles?
oh that's right, fucking nothing

>lol, bootlicker in denial
you're supposed to post evidence of your claim and humiliate yourself

>a cancer enthusiast
no, i believe consoles should die, they are the cancer

>"saar, you have to do the mindful of paying for no product"
maybe that's the view your brown eyes see because you're used to low trust society behaviors but for me early access games are a way to get into game development and fund good ideas

>>742426450
>Is that because they only focus on game-compatibility, and won't much touch or tinker with compatibility for non-gaming software run through desktop-mode?
SteamOS is an atomic distribution, that is meant each update is a full image of the OS and all pre-installed software. You're not meant to modify the OS system files and pre-installed software or install software of your own at system level. This is highly inconvenient to someone who is a power user.
Running a server on SteamOS is shit. Accessing SMB shares? Not great - I have to type in the IP of the SMB server rather than like on Windows or other Linux distros where I can just navigate to the server in network section of the file explorer. I can't fix it on SteamOS either because it doesn't support messing with system files, I'd need to install and enable Avahi and reconfigure systemd-resolved to make it work correctly I reckon. Of course you can still fuck around with SteamOS, but it's much much harder if you don't want to lose everything you've done when you update.

This doesn't mean you can't do non-gaming shit on SteamOS. It depends entirely on what exactly you're trying to do whether you'll face massive inconvenience or not.

>>742426727
>Why are you being such a pedantic dork.
I'm not
>You're in every thread being a real stinky loser.
I'm not, lol, you're obssessed and paranoic
>Let people enjoy things
Am I holding you at gunpoint?
>and enjoy things yourself.
I enjoy dunking on retards that like steam
>This negativity and bittnerness - though you'll deny it
I won't
>even as it is glaringly present - impacts your overall happiness
It does make me happier
>it will also manifest physically in ways that are not to your advantage.
Are you cursing me?
>Go have fun
I am, right now
>retard anon
no need to sign
>>742426863
>just backup
With physical gaes I already have one
>valve didn't choose to do it
they chose to build a platform that lets devs do it, after charging money from users, that's fraudulent
>le evidence
preddit is the other way
>consoles are cancer
every bad practice originates from PC
>brown eyes
my eyes are a beautiful shade of green

>>742427123
>With physical gaes I already have one
every physical console game is an encrypted piece of shit that requires interfacing with specific drm
that's not a fucking backup

>they chose to build a platform that lets devs do it, after charging money from users, that's fraudulent
valve allows you to refund games that do shit like this

>le evidence
so you can't prove it? got it, you're full of shit

>every bad practice originates from PC
except that all DRM stems from consoles
if anything steam is the lightest, least intrusive and easiest to remove drm out there

>my eyes are a beautiful shade of green
green like fucking envy because you're mad at people getting to make their passion projects

>>742426927
I'll be frank with you, I barely understood most of your first paragraph.
But
>This doesn't mean you can't do non-gaming shit on SteamOS.
Is that to say, just as an example, if I install FLstudio or Cubase, download/install my various vst/synths and start saving presets for the synths and project files, will all these disappear when SteamOS updates?

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>>742412796
>works only with ayymd

>>742427123
>I'm not a pedantic dork
>most pedantic post ITT

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>>742427545

>>742425253
SteamOS is chrome you dumb fuck.

>>742427346
You're talking about Windows exclusive software with Windows exclusive extensions. Some of it may work, some of it may not. SteamOS doesn't have pre-installed wine either so you'll be limited by that factor as well - makes it harder.
When I'm talking about software disappearing on updates, I'm talking about Linux software installed at system level which is theoretically possible on SteamOS if you disable read only. This isn't a factor at all for Windows software or any user mode software such as flatpak (from discover store), getting this particular software working correctly in the first place would be the difficult part.

>>742412796
I used SteamOS on my ROG Ally X for a month and it was fucking dogshit.
It’s not in any way “plug and play” or seamless.
This is what the cultists want you to believe.

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>>742427346
Yes it disappears, this is why you aren’t allowed to customize it.

>>742427445
Not my fault you set me up like that, maybe if you didn't write like a 14 year old girl on myspace
>>742427345
>every physical console game
I own can be played, as is, instantly, in any compatible console
>refund
If i wanted i refund I wouldn't buy the game
>proof
go read their online conduct guidelines
>drm comes form consoles
nope, 70s pcs
>envy
I don't envy having to ask some fatso for permission to play
>passion projects
lol, if you think steam OS is what will break the ice for this then you're never gonna make it faux-dev-kun, if you wanted to make a passion project you'd have started it already.

>>742427545
I play games not create nonse porn

>>742427682
Thank you for patiently explaining it to me anon, you're blessed. I think I understand. So it's not impossible and nothing will get erased, it will just be difficult to set up properly.
I'll take the positive retard outlook on this and see if I can find a way to achieve it on the Steam Deck, so I have an easier time setting it all up, when SteamOS releases with support for nvidia hardware. Thank you again anon

>>742427817
All the non-steam stuff I download on my deck hasn't disappeared in years of updates

>>742427834
>types like a spiteful girl
>accuses others of being girls
I didn't set you up, you chose to reply like a girl. Let me put it in contrast to your previous post:
>valve didn't choose to do it
they chose to build a platform that lets devs do it, after charging money from users, that's fraudulent

You're a very funny funny guy anon. A true clown

>>742428017
Yeah. Running non-game Windows software on SteamOS is more miserable than other distros such as Arch or CachyOS where you can just pacman -S wine. On SteamOS you're likely to have to resort to adding Windows software as non-Steam Game (bad idea), using Heroic Games Launcher, Lutris, Bottles or some other software similar to that.
I'm sure if you get used to it, it's not horrible, but I don't find it to be a great experience personally.

>>742427638
... SteamOS is not chrome. It's Arch Linux. Chromium is the browser it uses. You should probably stop talking.

>>742427834
>I own can be played, as is, instantly, in any compatible console
>in any compatible console
exactly, it's a volatile copy that relies on drm
it's not a fucking backup

>If i wanted i refund I wouldn't buy the game
you're also allowed to do that

>go read their online conduct guidelines
proof means you posting something, not me helping your own argument faggot

>nope, 70s pcs
that's turbo cope
70s pcs didn't have hardware based drm

>I don't envy having to ask some fatso for permission to play
instead you're asking for that same permission from people who completely took hardware ownership away from you

>lol, if you think steam OS is what will break the ice for this then you're never gonna make it faux-dev-kun, if you wanted to make a passion project you'd have started it already.
are you an esl? that has nothing to do with what was stated

>>742425921
Buy a USB drive with a short USB. Stack it on top of the box and you're done.

>>742427638
You cannot seriously be this stupid.

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>>742424927
I'm sure someone will post an example
>>742425107
Oh look, the easiest to use arch distro has had the same problem. Lol.

Arch has it's place. It's great for some. However when something go wrong it always turns into "fucking skill issue n00b! It's your fault for not knowing how to fix it! Read the manual faggot! Arch is the best! I use Arch btw"
Fedora and fedora based distros are just more stable and the user base is far more helpful.if something goes sideways.

>>742428017
You idiot, if we can customize it then there wouldn’t be a meme. Valve locks the SteamOS, this is why you can’t just edit files. The other guy is only talking in theory therms, no actual way to stop Valve’s design to reset.

>>742428487
Example of what? I have 2 computers running Arch. The one I have done all the fucked up shit on has broken in minor ways before mostly as a consequence of my own actions such as forgetting to add a necessary partition (such as @home) to fstab, and the one which I haven't messed with has gone through many many updates without even a single issue.
I mean you're a fedora nigger so you shouldn't be throwing stones at all, Fedora broke KDE and took way longer to fix it than Arch did.

>>742428342
You should stop talking, “SteamOS” is a software not an operating system. You people paid Valve to install a free Linux version with a modified Steam build to look different from desktop. We already have proof from Valve themselves that they use Chrome, Steam killed of Windows 7 and 8 because Chrome doesn’t support it either. Billion dollar company can’t support XP or older Linux anymore because Chrome.

Wake up sheep.

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>>742428970
>You should stop talking, “SteamOS” is a software not an operating system.

>>742428592
I'm not looking to change things up in the system. I'm just pondering if there's a way to incorporate SteamOS into my daily flow at the PC; on windows I can play music on my hooked up instruments, I can do my paperwork for work and I can play games.
Now SteamOS can play games, it SOUNDS like it can also do the other two, but will require a little bit of setup and maybe clunky work.
Going into system files and changing things up...I don't understand any of that, so I wouldn't try it without some real good reason. I understand that hardcore Linux users do this, and they gain a lot - whether it's convenience, efficiency or whatever - from it, and I won't say that's "stupid", because it's actually awesome that they can do that, I just have no need or reason to

>>742428970
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/65B4-2AA3-5F37-4227
Linux/Arch based distro. It is in fact an OS. You are mistaking Steam OS and the Steam client. SteamOS is distributed as a distro with preinstalled versions of Proton and other software other than just the client you're referring to.

>>742427863
Believe it or not, it's not for AI or crypto. Just games, and for that reason I can't recommend the card.

Also it's spelled nonce.

>>742412796
>saves PC gaming

> still need windows emulator to run games
> multiplayer games don't work
> problems with pirated games
> unable to run hypervisor bypass games

>>742428970
>tells people to wake up
>doesn't understand the difference between and operating system and a browser based client.
Also if you're the same anon as this: >>742425107
That's a server error, that's not generated on the users machine. That error will happen regardless of what operating system you're using.

The OS is not the big selling point of SteamOS, it's Proton and Valve's substantial investment in creating a tool that can actually solve one of the main issues in Linux gaming. SteamOS is essentially big picture mode as a wrapper around Arch

>>742412796
It came with my steam deck. It works like a charm. Everything works as it should for my casual use. I think my only issues have been when setting up mods for some games, sometimes it require extra tinkering.
Not sure how it works for people doing actual important stuff on it, like office work.

>>742412796
Reminder the french tried to protect your consumer rights by making digital games resellable to make sure you actually own your digital copies.
But the yacht company said "no" and bribed their way into shooting that down.

>>742413018
OS as in operating system, not console.

>>742412796
My favorite games aren't on steam

I was dissatisfied with the new SteamOS update failing to update the Deck's firmware constantly. Also more hiccups for connecting to an external display
Considering dumping it for NixOS, but not 100% sure if the kernel 7.1 series will have all the hardware support mainlined

>>742429653
reminder that if physical reselling was viable then anyone else would've done it
but they don't
maybe read why the court ruled that way before you speak

>>742429685
nobody installs SteamOS on their PCs lol

>>742429559
> still need windows emulator to run games
compatibility layer that runs games better than windows

> multiplayer games don't work
one genre of the most antisocial, antihuman and rage inducing games doesn't work

> problems with pirated games
skill issue

> unable to run hypervisor bypass games
they can in a vm
you're a turbo retard if you're running that shit bare metal

>>742412796
Can't use CreamAPI on it.

>>742429957
Go to Steam, click the plus in the bottom left corner, click Add Non-Steam game, choose your game. This adds controller support, and Proton Support as well.

>>742412796
Never uninstalled win10, never found the reason to stop using it. I rekt the updates out of my system so I don't get any FREE UPGRADE (downgrade lol) TO WIN11 NOW! messages.

>>742430279
>compatibility layer that runs games better than windows
Good joke

>>742430893
see >>742419573

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>>742429041
Wikipedia is a community website that allows anyone to add information based on their experience. No real experience is necessary to add false information.

Dumb anon and stupid cult members and fake Linux users.

>>742429217
>Valve said so
>Bro believe in Valve overlord
Do you even hear yourself now.

>>742431237
nigger, you're the one that's so fucking retarded that you can't differentiate between the linux parts and steam big picture mode

>>742431358
It’s you people who BELIEVE in Valve’s words. Just as a cult leader makes you BELIEVE killing kids is ok.

>>742430756
That defeats the purpose of "just click install"

>>742431978
>schizobabble completely unprompted
you're just retarded and have no idea what you're talking about

>>742428970
SteamOS is literally just a normal Linux distro.

>>742412796
What about modding
Custom launchers
2001 era exes
Does it actually just werk or are you operating in a closed-off environment of what Linux people approve of?

>>742431336
This is the most idiotic thing I've ever heard.

>>742432082
How else do you expect to run the game from the Big Picture Mode?

>>742412796
because my handlers told me redeeming the linux means i'm trans sorry

>>742412796
>All you have to do is just buy AMD and experience freedom
Gabe's actually working with Nvidia to get proper Linux driver support going for their cards as well.

>>742412796
>the consolization of pc gaming

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>>742432235
>What about modding
Easier than you think. R2modman and Hedgemod Manager have native linux ports, other mod loaders work easily with wine. The worse it gets is adding "WINEDLLOVERRIDES="Custom.dll=n,b" to your launch options or gay .net C# coded mod loaders.
>Custom launchers
Either replaced by the FOSS ones or just ran through wine.
>2001 era exes
I don't have a lot of games from there to really give you a super informed opinion, but generally you'd want to apply community patches, like for the GTA games, understand weird quirks like Slave Zero needing to be in the Wineprefix (C: Drive), or WMV/WMAs being a shit format and requiring you to re-encode them yourself.

>muh troonix
grow the fuck up or are you still at college

>>742433698
their linux support won't amount to shit until they actually join mesa

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>>742434512
I got good news anon
https://rust-for-linux.com/nova-gpu-driver
Officially it's developed by Nvidia but I'm pretty sure this is Valve's initiative.

>>742414325
>so you would choose to suck dick for a day's wage?
>15 minute blowjob for 8 hours worth of pay
Line 'em up. I'll suck dicks for 8 hours a day.

>>742432120
>>742432137
>>742432732
>Gives only Valve’s answers and some Wikipedia article
No one will believe you, plus you just now claiming it without understanding why we call it operating system in Linux. No even worse is that you cultist just saying nonsense copy paste without responding to actual data facts. “SteamOS” legally cannot be an operating system if the only purpose is viewing games and buying it. Installer is done by Arch, playing is done by Proton, main functions like controller or keyboard are Arch, display is by Arch. “SteamOS” is nothing but a stable software that users have no control. An ICloud version that always stays in your devices.

>>742437703
are you bewildered by the concept of distros being based on other distros?

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>>742412796
>just buy AMD
lol

>>742437839
not a single nvidia card out right now is worth the money

I'm waiting to buy the RDNA 5 flagship GPU.

>>742438053
The 5090 is practically free.

>>742437703
The shit you're saying is as retarded as saying Ubuntu isn't an OS because everything is actually Debian and Ubuntu is just some custom extensions for Gnome.

>>742437813
distros within distros within distros containing distros powered by the original distro. At what point do you people stop calling it SteamOS instead of CRUX.

>>742412913
Doesn't matter, people want Windows but not Windows, and SteamOS is their Windows but not Windows because it has the Valve branding. They won't move to Linux unless they can install SteamOS, and they will buy the GabeCube just to use SteamOS.

Unsurprisingly tech illiterate normies only follow branding like cattle instead of putting in the effort to understand what they're using and how to use it.

Why would someone willingly use linux?

>>742439403
Why would someone willingly use Windows?
Why would someone willingly use MacOS?
Why would someone willingly use Android?

>>742438631
you do know that distros don't write all their packages right?
you're so retarded you're claiming ubuntu isn't an os

>>742439549
Windows just works.™