Why is everyone going crazy over no physical copies now? Steam has been doing that for decades and people worships Valve for it.Why is it bad now?
I own your mom physically
PC is not a locked-down DRM box, any game purchased via Steam that uses Steamworks can be played indefinitely with Goldberg Emulator (which is a legal program). Never mind actual piracy (or games purchased via GOG). PChads own their games while consolecucks cry in the corner
>>742415462>valve fans became transgee I wonder why
It's hilarious to read these threads because they really prove that a lot of people who post here don't have the slightest idea how computers work.They're supposed to be computer game hobbyists, but they don't even know what a computer is.
Because valve didnt take away your options, he gave you one. And then everyone woke up one day and realized that no one has DVD drives in their pc anymore
>>742415462Who is going crazy?
>>742415594This is true. I just hammer buttons on this wireless typewriter and stuff happens
>>742415462Physical media was one of the few advantages of consoles remaining. Now there's nothing left.
>>742415462That was always specifically one of the key differences between console gaming and PC gaming, and it goes very much without saying that Valve is a much more trustworthy company than Sony.
>>742415631>I will buy the much less powerful Steam box for similar monieswhat a good little steam drone you are, here's a CS skin for your appeasement
>>742415605they actually did take away your options when you were forced to use steam with half life 2
I can purchase a game I now own, close steam, delete steam and still run the game (because I own it)You cannot do that with the PS5
>>742415462RagebaitThat's allKids are bored and impotent so they chimp out over dumb shit they wrongly feel they have some control over
>>742415713No you can't
>>742415462Consoles are ass for digital only. There's no guarantee your shit will be backwards compatible. They will shut the stores down one day, leaving you with nothing. At least Steam doesn't stop working if I buy a new computer.
>>742415462You can pirate games on PC and not on console currently. How is that hard to understand?
What's funny is that you only bought a PC for piracy. If piracy was easy on a console and impossible on a PC you'd all own consoles.
>>742415549>Muh piracyBy that logic you can jailbreak consoles and pirate shit on them tooDoesn't change the fact that you don't own any of your steam games you paid money for and can't resell them, hell they can't even be inherited by your family members legally
>>742415772copehttps://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/The_big_list_of_DRM-free_games_on_Steam
>>742415731Don’t worry Sony. When the PS7 doesn’t exist due to low PS6 sales just remember the bots you needed. After all you’re completely correct to not react.By not buying your trash :)
>>7424158502 out of the 3 things mentioned in the post are not piracyI accept your concession consolecuck
>>742415631B-but the price>>742415683Who are you quoting?
>>742415826Yes>t.playing my CFWed DS right now
>>742415852ok anon. When people usually discuss games they usually mean actual recent games and not 30 year old DOS games.
>>742415462I don't need to keep rebuying the same shitbox with the same games every few years on PC.
>>742415895>Who are you quoting?I hear angels
>>742415772Yes you can https://mr_goldberg.gitlab.io/goldberg_emulator/
>>742415462It's bad now because it was the 1 thing consoles had over PC.The overwhelming majority of consolefags do not care about physical, as all of the sales data show, yet they had to pretend to care 2 days ago because it's one of their biggest ammunitions against their PC boogeyman.
>>742415973>what is shoplifting
>>742415462steam has dirt cheap grey market key sites, physical console copies were supposed to be a similar thing.
>>742415939The Silent Hill 2 Remake is right therecope harder
>>742415850>By that logic you can jailbreak consolesThe thing is, you don't have to jailbreak your PC to pirate.
>>742415998Take a note of the URL domain
>>742415998Wouldn't know, shoplifting is a crime and crime is for consoleniggers.
>>742416013>steam has dirt cheap grey market key sitesYou can get your games remove from you account if you buy on these
>>742415514Ooof, that's bad speak!
>>742415998>buy game from steam>download a legal program that let's you play said game without even having steam installed on the computer>shopliftinglol what
>>742416062Never happenscope
>>742415605People don't have floppy disk drives anymore either. Guess why?DVDs have become obsolete. Who's going to watch a movie at 480p these days? It takes about 5 minutes to rip an entire DVD to your computer, while a good Internet connection can transfer the same amount of data in about 50 seconds. Etc.DVD use these days is extremely niche, and it really makes no sense at all to have a DVD drive in your computer for everyday use.
>>742416062a screenshot is enough and they get you a new one lmao, this isn't a problem.
>>742416109>buy game in a humble bundle>money stolenhttps://steamcommunity.com/app/337940/discussions/0/4241812037686825899/
>>742416060
>>742416231https://steamcommunity.com/app/337940/discussions/0/4241812037689890854/
>>742415462You have no other option than the Sony store.PC can choose to buy their games from a multitude of stores. It's not a locked down system requiring exclusively one OS and one place where to buy games.The REAL issue about physical games being gone is that you'll be forced to buy from Sony.
>>742415686Yeah I remember Gabe coming to my house and pointing a gun at me forcing to install Half Life 2.
People are convinced they own Steam games. They don't.
>>742416130DVD still are bought plenty by older generations and they are very cheap to make, it's why there's still many movies releasing on DVD, sometime even only on DVD and not on other formats, even if it's old and low quality
>>742418521You DO own some games, as not all games have DRM, it's up to the developer in reality.You can notice this on a few indie or older games which work with the executable only without any issueYou also have access to the files so you can "make it your own" much more easily than on consoles where you don't have access to anything.
>>742415462The realities of PC gaming and technology made it so physical gaming on PC was never going to last. My dumbass kid self could make ISOs or copy ISOs to disks. It meant that games were really just pieces of paper with CD Keys on them, much like download codes are now. Valve didn't do anything except give you the ability to share with friends.
>>742418521https://mr_goldberg.gitlab.io/goldberg_emulator/
>>742415462On PC it's okay and if you're not okay there's always piracy.On consoles it is never okay cuz it eliminates the one reason to get consoles.
>>742415462Consoles literally only continue to exist for physical media.You take away physical media and there's no reason for a console to exist.
>>742416330So? First post proves my point that "your" games can whenever when the devs feel like it just randomly take it away from your account.
>>742415462The girl who wrote the original "You'll own nothing and be happy" article appeared on Peter Thiel's list, and she is now suddenly very active again in the Social Democratic Party of my country, psyopping that Denmark is a "Christian" country.
>>742415462I never got the kvetching over muh physical. >they'll take away your digital copiesThen I'll pirate it, and therefore own it. Yeah sure whatever aaa slop will maintain their denuvo license forever but most of what I play isn't going to afford denuvo licenses for all the years it takes for the legit digital copies to be delisted.
>>742415462based on how theyve shut off everything i own newer than 2008 that isnt untamperable or hacked theyre going to try and rug pull everything 4 pcs all dont work my ps4 got shut off etc
>>742415462because retarded zoomzoom faggot cunt, when valve did it with steam, it was a value add for consumers; taking a disparate assortment of games, from all sorts of developers, and consolidating it into a single store front. physical still existed if you were so inclined. (the fact publishers stopped producing physical copies is on THEM, not valve's doing.)and because you are too much of a completely retarded faggot to see the distinction between this and sony/ms/nintendo doing it solely to gimp resale, this entire thread is pointless. OR you know exactly what you're doing and being a ragebaiting faggot cunt.either way, fuck you. seriously FUCK YOU.
Snoys lost
>>742421435Their tears are delicious
>>742415850>By that logic you can jailbreak consoles and pirate shit on them tooyou can't jailbreak a console without a PC thoughbeit
Steamcucks aren't humans.
>>742422956Or make games
if i want i can play steam games without the need for internet :)'right now even, i will close this thread and turn off the internet and play :D
>>742423193Yeah, they're superhuman
>>742415850>By that logic you can jailbreak consoles and pirate shit on them tooyou can? a ps5 switch 2 or nu-xbox?
>>742423272>steamcucks are super human>with their $1500 box which is less powerful than a ps5 Super-sonic retards
Goymers deserve nothing
>>742415514oh shit, you clowned him
>>742423341the train of thought of consolecucks is just alien to me, they think gabecube is like the new pc or something
>>742415772A lot of pirated games floating around on torrent sites were acquired through Steam, so evidently he can.
>>742415462I do like how normalfags are mad at Sony as well. There is hope for them, the jews slaughtering Palestinian babies and the Epstein files did awaken them in at least small tiny part.
>>742416130Why did PCs never make Blu Ray drives standard?
>>742423443>no. it has less power than a console but plays games betterer
>>742423679>consolecuck here immediately to prove my pointthanks i guess
The fact of the matter is that PC has a near infinite ways of dealing with "no physical media" or "we no longer have the license so we have to remove content"Just take GTA SA for example, they removed a shit load of songs from the game because R* no longer had the license to them abd patched them out, so PC players just repatched them in.Console players really have nothing except maybe jailbreaking things but that requires a PC and can brick your Console especially of you connect to the internet
>>742420363nigga literally all games are gonna be delisted from ps5 at once at some point, they will not support it anymore when it's old.
>>742423835You think you can't patch console games? People have been doing it for years and years.
>>742423783what point were you making?
>>742423341Guess what retard, Steam runs on more devices than just Steam Machines. You absolutely don't need a stupid $1500 box as you haven't needed it for two decades.
>>742415462Because consoles can't pirate their vidya back like PC, not easily at least, and console servers arent as reliable as Steam
>>742424086>his PC is less than $1500 lol how cute. A poor person has joined in the chat
>>742423986you don't need a valve brand pc to play games any more than you need a zwilling brand toaster to toast bread
>>742424213Who said it was required?
I don't really see the big deal, I haven't bought a CD-ROM since like 2009. I have every NES, SNES, N64, GB, GBC and GBA game ever made saved to my computer and I can play them whenever I want.
>>742424256your crying previously
>>742424304?Do you often make things up
>>742424256Then why did you bring up "their $1500 box" when talking about Steamchads out of nowhere?
>>742424410concession accepted
>>742424474>why did you mention steam machine when I was subject was talking about steamgee derp. I dunno?
>>742424492Only coping retards use those words
It boggles my mind that hobbyist console users on this board are so tech illiterate
>>742424542>when I was subject was talking aboutJackpot, he's ESL
>>742424646the backslash didn't appear / >oh no not a typo, we got him now
>>742415462Because i can see the files in my machine and do whatever i want with em.You can't see your file system if you're using a console.Mark Cerny could be storing several cuck videos in (your) machine and you would never know.
>>742424581it boggles my mind that people believe you can post here from a console
>>742424728and what do you do with your files, just look at them?
>>742415939>>742416015Arguing with consolefags is like arguing with old people born in the 1930s. They don't have a hint of self-awareness either.
>>742424767yes
>>742424738>jumped from tech illiterate to regular illiterateWhere and when did anyone say that they believed someone posted from their console?
>>742424814well you need access to a typewriter and the internet for it to post.
>>742424767Modify the files with cuckold porn of yo momma
>>742424174You will never be a true PC user if you understand that it's about freedom of doing the fuck you want.Just a consoooomer.I bet your PC don't have a PC Speaker, because you're ashamed of the beep and wish you were using a mac.
>>742424858Does owning a computer or phone make you tech literate?Does every person who drives a car know what a carburetor does?
>>742424882>freedom of doing what you wantlike choosing to game on either a pc or console?>I bet your PC don't have a PC SpeakerMy pc used to have a pair of really expensive speakers attached. Now it has marginally expensive speakers attached
>>742415462>buy game on steam>apply goldberg crack>you now own your game foreverThis works for 95% of non-denuvo games on steam. That's the difference. On consoles you can't play games from the last gen, you can't even keep your movies if sony says no
>>742423679>>742423783>>742423986>>742424213>>742424256>>742424304>>742424410>>742424492It's so funny that tendies have to pretend they win arguments by desperately trying to have the last word even after getting btfo. It's very feminine behavior.
>>742424906>off on his own tangent stay on topic retard. ignore the voices in your head
>>742424767I copy em, i modify em, i open em on a hex editor, i open em on a paint program, i create new files where every byte is the byte i want, i copy em to other media, i can even shove my files in a PROM chip if i want.They're under my control.
>>742424984>tendieslolwutbro you are mentally ill
>>742425018you do fuck all with them. you're clueless as fuck. Show me a mod you've made
>>742424991Yeah, I figured as much, GOLD STAR for figuring out how to navigate to 4chan my little tech wizard
>>742423669Patents by yours truly
>>742424906>Does every person who drives a car know what a carburetor does?carburetors haven't been seen on cars since 1992
>>742425048>if you don't make mods you don't own your filesYou have to be 18 and preferably speak English as your primary language to post here
>>742415549lol you can just gamecopy world crack it legallywish valve would make a custom client for old linux max pc etc that just lets you run your games lol
>>742415826Why yes, that's why I own an OG hacked switch where I can play every game for free, and that's why I don't have a switch 2 and won't until it's hackable
>>742425048>adhominemBut fine, i will grant your wish.I'm writing an MSX2 game in assembly.Can you write an MSX2 game in assembly in your console? can you even write a native game?
>>742425153>I alter game files >ok I don't clueless as fuck
>>742423332you can actually jailbreak a ps5 but only on very specific firmwares.and yes that jailbreaking does enable piracy.
>>742425121>dodgingDoes every person who drives a car know how all of its parts work? No, and posting to 4chan on your moms computer doesn't make you tech literate
>>742415462a monopoly on game distribution is only ever a bad thing
>>742415850playing games you bought on goldberg emulator isn't piracy, and is legal.Jailbreaking your console is a violation of the DMCA. This is very illegal.That's the difference.
>>742425202actually maybe. I did learn Z80 assembly years ago but forgot it now. It all looks alien to me, I suppose after a week or something of messing about I could.
>>742415686>NOOOO NOT THE HECKIN' STORE EXCLUSIVITYMeanwhile people are fine with console exclusive games
>>742425207Moving files counts as modification. I drag em and drop em all over the place!
>>742425303Yes, but you need to use a PC for that, or a cracked to hell console.You can't just buy a PS5 or a nintendo switch from the store, turn it on and load VSCode on it, or run a Z80 assembler.
>>742415826I have a PC because I do more on it besides just playing games
>>742425389Why would you think I don't own a PC?
>>742425207Get modded bitch
>>742415713You can still get banned from Steam and lose all your games on it.
>>742425470>game files>text editor
>>742425478Your console can be remotely bricked...
>>742415462>Data, disc:)>Data, hard drive:(
>>742425537wtf no it can't, are you high?
>>742425467Yep, but the whole discussion is about you having no access or clue to the files in your console, thus being unable to protect yourself from the company complete control over your machine.
>>742425528>you don't even mod your files>mod files>NOOOO IT HAS TO BE AS I PRESCRIBED
>>742425202writes to an address and clearswaits for a call restores register of the interrupt pauses for a flag
>>742425615>he didn't even read the terms and conditions for his own system
>>742425630>you have no access or clue I have quite a clue. Who said I didn't?
Why doesn't everybody jailbreak their console?
>>742425638>he can invert stuff toowoowwwwww such worth
>>742425615>12.6. Other Remedial Actions.If we determine that you or any of your associated Child Accounts have violated this Agreement (including the Code of Conduct, the Usage Terms, or any other incorporated terms), or that your actions have injured or damaged SIE or the PlayStation community, we reserve the right to take any action we believe necessary to remedy the violation or to protect SIE’s interests, including: (a) the automatic removal or blockage of content associated with those Accounts; (b) implementation of upgrades or devices intended to discontinue unauthorized use; (c) the permanent or temporary disablement of access to any Content, PlayStation Devices, products, services or features; (d) notifying law enforcement or the appropriate authority; and (e) initiating legal action.
>>742415939Cyberpunk 2077The Witcher 3: Wild HuntTomb Raider I-III RemasteredTomb Raider IV-VI RemasteredMyst and Riven (2021 and 2024 remakes)every single Devolver Digital gameStreets of Rage 4Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder's Revenge Baldur's Gate III (and every other Larian title)Every Paradox gameMost Square Enix games have had Denuvo removed and are DRM free now.
>>742425751Because its hard or impossible.
>>742425478Yeah and you can lose your disc collection in a house fire.
>>742425808CDPR requires the launcher
>>742425810Then why do people keep bringing it up in response to PC piracy?
>>742415462Steamies are hypocritesThey'll spout muh freedom of choice on PC but the reality is that Steam = PC and that 99% of all PCfags do not bother with any other storefront.And from a dev's perspective if you're selling a game on PC and you're not on Steam you'll always flop hard because no one will buy it.
>>742415850Not only console piracy is dead, the premise expects you to buy a launch unit, go online to activate it (lol, lmao, roflmao) and then shelve it, so 6 years later some pile of shit temporary 40% success rate HEN exploit is released by some romanian that would let you run games up to firmware 2.0. PCs just give me full ownership unconditionally. Only pirates have owned games since updates and DLCs started, predating you from 2006.
>>742425862You can do it. You need to not update your console firmware and use one from 2023 or something before it was patched
>>742425862Because they have important online arguments to win
>>742425893steam_api.DLL says I don't give a shit
>>742415462why don't Gamers simply boycott Sony?Chuds have so much power, right?They took back gaming and destroyed Marathon, Highguard, Concord, etc. Gamers can't stop winning, so bending Sony to Gamers' whims shouldn't be a problem at all.
>he doesn't keep an excel file of every game he owns so in the very rare event Gabe tries to steal all of my vidya I know exactly which games I have the right to reclaim
>>742425751Because most people don't pirate>>742425810Only in the early stages of a consoles life
>>742425893>They'll spout muh freedom of choice on PC but the reality is that Steam = PC and that 99% of all PCfags do not bother with any other storefrontThese are not mutually contradictory points. In most cases we go to Steam because it's the most convenient and hassle-free options, but alternative options are still there, and in fact a number of popular games aren't even on Steam to begin with. In the event something happens to Steam, those other options will still be available.
>tendies piss and moan about emulation>suddenly they're praying for someone to jailbreak the switch 2 so they can actually own their games, a vehicle by which emulation becomes availableEmbarassing
>>742425893That's right, I have the freedom of choice to decide what I want to use. Get fucked, beggar.
>everyone on PC sees the error of their ways and runs out to buy a DVD drive and some discs to load their games from
>>742415594Lot of people here need permission from parents/wife to buy something. Single men not have finances for gaming computers
>>742426268>tendies like owning their games>snoys don't want to own their games just to be against tendiesLMAO
>>742426330>I can choose console or PC >you can choose only PC >Muh freedomz of choice init
>>742426378>Single men not have finances for gaming computerswho said this?
>>742426383Modern consoles are just gimped PCs
>>742426448your PC is a gimped PC
>>742426467And still better than a console lmaoooo
>>742426490but it's not better than a good PC
>>742426127Gamers(Chuds)'s only move is doing nothingSo when something happens that requires them to rise up they are powerless.All the mediation in the world won't save the monk when his temple is about to be pillaged and he and his lot are enslaved/killedAlso>Assmongroid
>>742426383Consoles are for indians.
>>742415594This site is full of the most retarded, disingenuous people on the internet
>>742426534You should know
>>742426448>>742426507My PC is better than yours
>>742426606Possible. But I doubt it
>>742426579Very swarthy filename, I'm hiding my wallet.
>>742426579joke's on you, i play both sides, so i win regardless.
>>742426263>>742426330>I-It's totally freedom of choice g-guys!! I can choose to have dog turds instead of normal food!
>>742426816And the dog turds and normal food are what for this analogy to work?
>>742426816No, I'm rejecting consoles. Don't they teach you to read at New Delhi or California?
>>742426816>choose to have dog turds instead of normal food!food analogy
>>742415462I'll simply just not buy digital games.
>>742426816This nigga talmbout food n shiiiit skrskrskrskr
PC you can do whatever you want. Consoles is more locked down where removing one of the major benefits of console gaming is retarded
>>742426856Dog turds are every other storefront on PC that isn't SteamSteam is the normal food.The point is that even if you can use other storefronts there's no reason you should when Steam is overwhelmingly superior.
>>742427076Like you didn't buy physical ones either? The entire reason Sony's dropping them to begin with?
>>742427397I think framing using any other store regardless of its quality as "dog turds" is a touch dishonestYou can't buy vintage story on steam, nor can you get sonic robo blast 2 on steam, or a number of other fun games
>>742427397Minecraft isn't on Steam, I bought it directly from MojangA bunch of small indies I got from itch.ioAnd sometimes I just torrent games that exist on Steam because I don't yet know if I'll like them enough to shill out the full price
>>742427789Nta but it's "shell" out, not "shill" outHope this helps
>>742415462It's bad because I have never used Steam on that very principle, I like to OWN my shit, if it's not mine and I'm just renting it they better lowerr the fucking prince to $12.
>>742427830Thank you anon, I will now commit ritual suicide out of shame of having misspelled something on the internet
>>742415631so it's just consolefags seething?
>>742415462Everyone and their mama knew it was coming.It was already over when people didn't mind paying the same physical price for a digital copy a decade+ ago nowIt's just the new thing for entitled gamers to be angry at but truth be told most people like the convenience of digital more than they'd like to admit. I'm a 90's hardware kid and even me stop caring about stuffing old consoles in boxes only to forget about it. Games are not worth selling second hand either these days, at least for the seller.
>>742425284>muh lawsgay
>>742415549sure, if you keep your whole steam library downloaded all the time
>>742415850>By that logic you can jailbreak consoles and pirate shit on them tooYes, modding a 3DS is surprisingly easy.
The bread is stale and the circus is boring.
Here's the thing Steam actually does sales while Sony will have no intention of doing that and have already admitted that they're going to milk their existing userbase more instead of trying to get new consumers on board
>>742433787I wanna show that girl my thingey
