>bro physical is so important, you need it or you can’t own and preserve games
>breaks into your house and pisses over your SD cardoknow what retard?
>>742419109I have another SD card in my safe. Man it’s good that I can back up my data unlike physical fags
>>742419163I pissed on that one tooyou lost
>>742419215Got 7 more
>>742419240no you don't
>>742419018Is it legal to resell that SD card?
>>742419109>>742419215>>742419281remember gentlemen, use the 3-2-1 backup strategy, then faggots like this won't destroy your data.
>>742419281Yes I do and a buddy who is seeding the collection as well. However for faggot collectors, one little fire and thousands of dollars gone
>>742419335why would I resell my games I want to own them little fag not pawn them for menthol cigarettes
>>742419109We have 40 SD cards good luck finding them and pissing all over th you have 24h left.
>>742419490You can't buy it either, that's the point
>>742419335Would you sell your wife?
>>742419496Everything's already been pissed on
>>742419612>pisses up your urethrawhat now big boy
>>742419545Point of what, I want to play them not treat them as investments. Go do that “grading house” scam if you want to do that
>>742419018I dropped my card in a box full of PC parts and i couldn't find it for 40 mins, it somehow got buried and lodged itself in the creases of the box.Now imagine if i hid that in my butthole and /v/ had to dig it out with their mouth and tongue.
>>742419674Physical media keeps prices in check. A used game can be like $20, digital $40. You remove the second hand market and the prices will stay sky high
>>742419770Hmm wow they seem to be free to me so it doesn’t seem to be my problem
>>742419109Good luck I've got 7 SD cards
>>742419018AN SD CARD IS PHYSCIAL MEDIAA PC IS AN OPEN PLATFORMTHE POINT IS THAT CONSOLES ARE A CLOSED ECOSYSTEM WHERE SONY OR MICROSOFT OR WHOEVER CAN FUCK YOU AT THEIR DISCRETION
>>742419724>In a man's asshole>on /v/It'd take only seconds anon...
>>742419960maybe console shouldn’t exist and they haven’t had a good reason to since the PS4 when everything started getting a PC port
>>742419674You have no idea how a market works.
>>742419109>breaks into my house and becomes full of hot leadoknow what retard?
>>742420032I dodge the bullet and piss all over you, and ALL your SD cards
>>742420026>t-the marketthe vast of majority of game are available on Pc through emulation or direct ports. I don’t care about the market. Even shit that used to justify a console like RDR1 got an official port. MGS4 will get an official port and Bloodborne is fully playable through PS4 emulation on PC. Physical is a scam that I have no clue why people continue to support
>>742420070>*holds up a mirror, watching you get blasted with your own piss*LOL
>>742420162You have no idea how a market works.
>>742419018Someone had to physically own and dump all those games for you to have a digital version to put on an SD card. Physical is indeed important.
>>742420070*disappears with the sound of a blade sheathing as your dick and piss become mist instantaneously*
>>742419852You're a dumb turdie, so don't worry about it. Enjoy life in the favela.
>>742419240i put them all in a bucket so they were all together then i pissed on all 7 at once in the bucket now your 7 SD cards are all covered in piss
>>742420010Other way around. Only consoles with physical media should exist. Keeps turdworlders out of the hobby while securing actual ownership for all.
>>742420616Yeah because there was no digital at the time. Now things get PC ports
>y-you're a third worlder if you won't buy my $200 unopened copy of mario 1!!!11!good luck with that, Paco
>>742419960the data on an SD card is digital :)
>>742419018like 20% of games are worth preserving
>>742420616So you're saying it's impossible to pirate digital only games?
>>742420741>ummm well youre brownyeah I expected as much from physical fags. They don’t have a real argument for this. Let me tell you something. I buy games on steam and never spent more than $20 on a game, yes even for AAA games because they do go on sale and down in price just like physical after some time
physical is importantif i regret buying a game months later i can sell it
>>742420845HUEHUEHUEHUHEUHEUHEUHEUEHUE
>>742419413I'm not glad it's all burned down, but I'm glad it's gone.
>>742421085I thought you said games were all free to you? But you actually do buy on Steam? Typical two-faced, dishonest turdie.
>>742419018>"Physical bad!!! SD card good!!!">SD cards are physicalWhat did OP mean by this?
>>742420912Nintendo games don't. Sony SP games also won't.>>742421062If they're console-exclusive without jailbreak possible, yes.
>>742420969true, NES cartridges have little elves that draw each frame in real time
>>742419545but you can get it for free so it's even better
>>742421543They are, but I can buy them if I feel they are cheap enough that it’s more convenient. I don’t drop a cent on denuvo trash and never will
Every system has 5-20 must own games so I might aswell own physical versions of them. Same with movies and books.
>>742419018>destroys your cheap SanDisk storageNothing personal kid
>>742421646>Nintendo games don't. Sony SP games also won'tIt’s not because they can’t but because it’s not financially viable for them. Sony tried then saw that once on PC, no one gave a shit about their games and they dropped in perceived value. Thats all it is. Locking things up to inflate value. It wasn’t the content itself that made these exclusives valuable but the fact you couldn’t play it elsewhere.
>>742419960Hmmm, maybe get a PC and play all the games and more except the 4 you can't?
>YOU CAN PUT ROMS ON AN SD CARD, THEREFORE, PHYSICAL USELESSHave snoys gone fucking insane?
>>742419018SHUT THE FUCK UP CORPORATE COCKSLURPING SHILL
>>742422691>Sony tried then saw that once on PC, no one gave a shit about their games and they dropped in perceived valueNo, Sony made bank on Steam, then realised they had no exclusives and the console sales stagnated.
>indian/bot corporate shill thread +5 izzat
>>742421606SSDs and HDDs are also physical objects on which normal, non-retarded, non-faggots store their games. Are you intentionally being retarded or are you genuinely just a stupid fuck
>>742422845>SSDs and HDDs are also physical objectsso it's no different to a cartridge or CD.>Both are physical>Both store data>Both can be accessed by a PC
>>742421606>digital data must be store on something physicalyeah retard then all data is physical if you use that logic.
>>742422953>then all data is physicalLiterally correct.
>>742422943then there’s no such thing as digital games and so people are getting mad for nothing
>>742419163Humans can produce and infinite amount of piss. Can you produce an infinite amount of backups?
>>742423051Yes. I'd agree with that.
>>742422995getting the context wrong makes you a moron you realize that right? A sign of intelligence is to use the context clues of a conversation to understand what the underlying topic is about rather than getting sidetracked by useless semantics. If you want the definition of what is a physical game, it’s a DRM-locked piece of data storage for the exclusive use of reading data, but not moving, writing, or copying it
>>742423275What do you think I got wrong? Be specific please.>definitionDid you make up that definition? Seems like you did.
Every console has the "server" of something like this installed effectively.
>>742419109I have it backed up on my OneDrive :)
>>742419109A smart person would have a backup or two in case that card fails. Of course you could just redownload all of these games off the internet
lol, "times"
>>742423420Listen I’m not gonna waste time with your retarded nonsense*you open your mouth wide and stick your tongue out**I unzip and piss deep dark foamy orange urine down your throat*
>>742419018>bro why keep the mona lisa, just scan and digitize it and now it's preserved forever
>>742423687>Dodges the questionsThen you are literally ceding the argument.I accept your actual concession.
>>742423742Mona lisa is one of a kind, not a mass produced product for kids.That said, all the development stuff is one of a kind and should be preserved
>>742423798can’t hear you with my piss dribbling out of your mouth
>>742421284This, I still regret buying Mina the Hollower and can't do a thing about it.
>>742424123>He's still cryingAww! You gonna spam the thread until it 404's just because you lost? That's adorable!Reply again.
>>742423742physical fags really do think they’re collecting something value and not just a game to be played. No you went to the gift shop and bought a print of the mona lisa
>>742424164Steam refunds?
>742424352>He's spamming the thread because he lostReply again! No more (you)'s you had enough, fatty.
10,000 games in 1!
>>742424567Kek piss mouth was actually mega butthurt, he got it deleted
>>742419413Wow you really like posting that, why would you have an agenda against physical media?
>>742420912>Now things get PC portsPC versions are always different from console versions, and usually inferior. If you had the choice 20 years from now you'd be emulating a console version of a game from the time because it would have things like more voice samples that weren't removed in a patch, music that wasn't removed in a patch, unique lighting effects, fine tuned support for a feature like touch pads or gyro which the PC version never supported except in hacky half broken fan patches.Console verisons are always superior, PC ports are generally not worth preserving.
>>742426094>PC versions are always different from console versions, and usually inferiorWhere do you live? in 2013?
>>742420032I piss hot lead over you
>>742419109fuck you too Kai Leng
>>7424261462026, just like you. 2013 is an interesting time however, did you know the version of GTA5 on PS3 and 360 is still superior to the one on PS5 and PC today?Crazy stuff. You would never even know about this. Turns out PC versions of games are always broken and missing features, and its always been this way LOL!
>>742419018everyone is just going to wait for a sale and amass a digital library of games that they will never play and create a bigger monopoly which isn't even good because steam has an idiotic review process where there's no appeal like in the case of dungeon travelers 2. you can't even "support" the dev because sony takes 30 dollars out of hundred dollar games. so you're either paying sony for the shit store, or steam which funded proton, a translation layer for linux to run games better. I wonder which camp to support. no brainer unless you are an idiot. can't remember the last time sony actually made games or didn't hold them hostage like freedom wars and such.
>>742419109i have back ups everywhere. Nigga you know how small the nes library is data size.
>>742419018yea ok but what if you accidentally swallow that little thing? then your nes games are gone
>>742426226I played all 3 and the PS3/360 version isn’t superior. I still have the 360 version from launch and see zero reason to play it.
>742425709Reply again!
>>742426612Incorrect, you're uninformed and you don't even know it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvh5z02d5BMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9RLOWztOO8That's just two videos worth, now you can be informed and never repeat the same mistakes going forward.
>>742419018
>>742419109sdsissies in shambles
>>742419163SD cards are physical, you dunce.
>>742419018Normalfags don't know what DRM is or why they should be against it. They don't realize that a physical copy of a game with DRM on it is just as useless to them as streaming. The pro-physical movement is overwhelmingly made up of dumbasses engaging more with retro aesthetics than caring about consumer rights.
>>742419109im pretty sure sd card works just fine even if dropped into a piss drawer
>i dont understand techSaarposting feels so old and tired already
>>742419018Nigger the SD card is physical media
>>742429198I eat a lot of pickles, my piss is corrosive asf to sd cards, I'm going to come round and find you irl and piss ALL OVER all of your sd cards, and also all of your pot plants so the wither and die from my piss
>>742429185Pretty much, they just care about the boxes, not owning the game.
>>742429084I wish retards understood that the disc you have isn’t the same as an SD card. If I explained it to you, you would realize why physical is retarded
>>742429304Why is this board so fucking stupid my God
discs rot while an installer can be moved to any new storage unit
>>742428526>image is 25 kb
>>742423742The people replying to you have never been to an art museum and seen a piece with their own eyes. There really is a marked difference between the real thing and a digital image on a screen.
>>742423742Do you realize a physical disc is a digital copy?
>>742419018nigga the whole NES library easily fits on a CD. it'd fit on a 128gb card hundreds of times over.
>>742429831>There really is a marked difference between the real thing and a digital image on a screen.There's not with a game on a disc and a game on a sd card.
>>742423051That's because games have been a digital medium since it's very conception unlike music, books or movies. "physical" is just a way of distribution of the digital product.
The real preservation is having things on torrent sites ready to download.
>>742419018an NES game is like 40kb. it'd be totally possible to make a single NES cartridge that contains the entire NES library, it'd be cooler too.i'm sure someone has done this before, made a master cartridge that works on original hardware.
>>742419109you should have tried pissing on it, you missed
>>742419109He re-downloads while you get sent to jail for breaking and entering
>>742419612You may have pissed on all my shit…but I know DAMN well I can piss harder than you can
>>742419413How often do you have a housefire? Do you live in Northern Ireland or something?
So what does one do if the company that owns the gaming platform decides to ban your account, or it gets hacked and deleted? Or what if the publisher pulls a game from the online store to push people to buy a remaster or some shit?
>>742419018I feel like the point would be made better if it was a 2TB microsd card with nintendo 64's library
>>742430669>Or what if the publisher pulls a game from the online store to push people to buy a remaster or some shit?This has happened many times
>>742430874Yes and it's unfortunate. I think the only real way to preserve games in the digital age is to make illegal copies, which shouldn't be necessary but here we are I guess.
>>742421398interesting image, the light gun is a master system one, the game is based on an NES so likely an NES clone console, the controllers are genesis style and the main body looks like one of the Atari consoles, maybe a modified 7800?
>>742431131when greed gets in the way of the greater good this tends to happen.the wildest thing is all they had to do was sell us the games but that is too much work i guess.
>>742430669pirate? this isn’t an issue on PC because of that. Consoles are useless and you should have switched over to PC in the pst 10 years when they charged you to use your internet
>>742419109rinse it under the sink, give it an alcohol bath, check the contacts, switch it over to a new sd card.
>>742419109but what if i piss on you first?checkmate retard
>>742431131this has always been the case.>diskswill eventually rot, need to create an 'illegal' copy to preserve the game>old cartshave a built in battery that powers a SRAM chip to save your data, once that runs out your save is gone.need to create an 'illegal' copy to preserve the game>modern carts, and the prior twoare limited to their closed ecosystem console/handheld, once those are defunct the games can no longer be played. need to create an 'illegal' copy to preserve the game"digital" as faggots like to complain about, is ironically the best way to preserve games because digital games can easily be stored on an HDD/SSD thats not limited to a closed ecosystem console, and can simply be moved between computers at will.
>>742431158Yep, that's the phantom system.The brazilian company Gradiente had a deal with atari to manufacture the atari 7800 in Brazil, but as it flopped miserably, they reused the machinery to create an NES clone, with a master system pistol and mega drive controller because HUEHUEHUEHUEH
>>742419335I don't buy games to sell them.But yes, if you format it first :)
>>742419018SOULvssoulless
>>742432426>soul is spending 400000 dollars buying overpriced plasticanon we just call that retardation.
>>742431984sovl
>>742419109which is somehow different from pissing on 822 NES carts? Difference is, the card can be backed up.
>>742419018Can a microSDXC preserve the soul of all 822 NES games 40 timesDidn't think so
>>742432426>can't even save your game because the battery on the cart is deaduuuughhhh so much soooul
>>742432995>can't beat it without savingmad, filtered, poor
>>742419240>I have as many SD cards as the space it would take for all those NES games... what was the point again?
>>742419413>one little fire and you're $100s of thousands in the holeUh, yeah, that's how your house burning down works?
>>742419109I beam clash with your piss to save my sd card
>>742432995You goofy fucker, 90% of NES games don't even have a save feature
>All the bootlickers in this fucking threadhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/QlIwy4_P4TMFuck you.
>>742433465yeah okay go clear any dragon quest in one sitting.
>>742420969And the data on a disk isn't?Cartridges, discs, SD cards and hard drives essentially accomplish the same function: Storing information.
>>742433582Not even my best time, btwhttps://youtu.be/nl_62s1xqCo?si=EjGHw1ByrkACp_iM
>>742419018PC users currently own more games inside their computers than console peasants have owned in the past fifteen years.
>>742419371>tfw i had a mind to learn how to do data hoarding for a couple years now but never got around to itnow storage is expensive...
They're trying to make storage more and more expensive to make backups harder to do btw :)
>>742434074>tfw I didn't buy multiple 20TB HDDs
>>742419413Contents insurance?
>>742434221Denied.What are you going to do? Sue us?
>>742419018Zoom Zoom here, I can't believe how much Mother 1 still holds up and doesn't feel archaic.Is it rare, or do other RPGs on the system also hold up?
>>742434572Obvious recommends are Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest/Warrior, but you should also try out Crystalis, you might like that one.
>>742419018seems like a really shitty way to play boktai
>>742434917>CrystalisThat one looks right up my alley, thanks mate.
>>742419018You're a fucking retard if you don't understand that their end game is for people to be forced to stream games from their servers instead of offering downloads you can have on your devices.
>>742435245and it will be just like netflix>pay a sub to stream shit games
>>742419018Where do you think the dumps came from, exactly? Here's a hint, it's physical media.
>>742435157No problem, enjoy. If you ever get into SNES RPGs you'll also like Secret of Mana, that's another real-time RPG.
>>742419109>thinks i don't know piss shield
>>742419018That's physical media too...
>>742434221>has to insure his gamesdo physical fags really
>>742435483>see the best thing about physical media is that you can pull its contents out to not make it physical media. Seems like the physical media step was the worthless extra step
>>742436120SD cards like that aren’t physical media, it’s storage that you can move media around. You PS5 disc doesn’t have the capability to change the data around on it. At least not intentionally
>>742419018Which is only an option thanks to people keeping physical carts and dumping the roms. Nintendo sure as hell isn't going to release every single NES game.
>>742436528it would be easier if it came out digitally first retard
>>742419018You do realize that SSD/HDD have limited lives too right? They don't just last "le forever." Optical HDD discs from everday use last 3-5 years due to wear and tear and you have the major issue with Bit rot as the magnetic charges the data is stored on decay literally like disc rot causing corrupted files. This is also dependant on use.A high-quality pressed disc can retain data for 10 to 20 years (or even up to 100 years for specialized archival "M-Discs" assuming these companies invested in this).SSD depends on how much you write into them but an unpowered SSD sitting completely undisturbed in a drawer will typically retain its data safely for 1 to 3 years before data corruption (bit rot) begins and also applies to m.2 drives and all this is made worse the more heat is put onto the SSD.The enemy to these things is quite literally time and physics, unlike their analog counterparts like DVDs-CD, despite the cope. The solution for physical was to just Move to the superior and large storage holding M-Discs (upwards of 100gb) that can last longer than any SSD and doesn't rot. There's even say that some versions can go up to a tb but idk if that's even true.
>>742436825>A high-quality pressed disc can retain data for 10 to 20 yearsOkay but I have music CD's from the 80's that work fine, I have a PSone with 30 year old games that work fine, I have a gamecube with 20 year old games that also work fine. What do you even mean by a "high-quality pressed disc"? When clearly discs last a lot longer.
>>742437061Idk why your be combative with me because I agree with you. Discs in general are sturdy, I was refering to High quality pressed disc as an example archival purposes as many claim that HDD/SSD can outlast an anolog counterpart or if not act like it does and flaunted it around when Sony announced they were moving away from physical
>>742436825People keep saying this but one my PC HDDs has been chugging along for over a decade now just fine. I'm convinced this is some bullshit to explain why new parts break so quickly.
>>742436825I have like 10 year hard drive still kicking? So i’m not sure where these numbers are coming from
>>742419018>buy 1(one) physical game for 10 bucks >its worth 5 bucks used>Buy 1k digital games for 60 bucks a pop>its worth 0 bucks used
>>742437327Combative? I'm just confused by the claim "high quality pressed discs can retain data for 10 to 20 years".
>>742419109>parries your piss
>>742419018>>742419109>>742419163just make sure you power that card on and run for a while periodically dude