Why did boomers just accept that the SNES had no backwards compatibility with the NES?
>>742444865By having a cheapass NES
>>742444865They didn't all just accept it, there was a ton of backlash over it back in the day But Nintendo wanted to keep the price down
Not a problem on SEGA
>>742444865we weren't spoiled little cunts
we were idorts you dumb zoomer scum
>>742444865Because they could just plug in their old NES and play it by switching a plug.On that note, it really fucks me up how my SNES and N64 are still fully operable with the controllers showing no signs of wear, but my fucking PS5 acts like it's on life support after 5 years.
1. the people playing the SNES back in the day were literal children who begged their parents for whatever console they were playing games on2. if you had NES games you had a NES, just play them on that. 3. if you didn't have a NES just get one, the action set had a retail price of $149
>>742444865because I kept my nes, like most people
>>742445193and of course the NES would be on sale for cheaper than that for Christmas and other holiday sales.
>>742444865They didn't:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTzyz2TgGlsThe NES sold 61.9 million units worldwide, while the SNES did 49.1 million. Likely millions of potential sales lost because "we already have a Nintendo."
>>742445521>"we already have a Nintendo."This shit drove me up the wall as a kid. I don't know why it was so hard for Boomers to understand the difference between an old and newer consoles. Type shit that makes me glad I'm gonna be able to put them in retiremnet homes one day. They'll say "I wanna go back home, son. They treat me bad here." And I will just look at them confused and say they already have a home before walking awa cnm,9
>>742445675Least mentally ill and jobless troonlennial faggot with no offspring or achievements award
>>742445081The genesisn't had enough problems as it was.
>>742445152i dont know what happened but something happened.my ds is dead and gone but my gameboy advances are all in perfect working order.
>>742445787speak english retard
>>742446272
the nes had no games anyone give a shit about
>>742444998>By having a cheapass NESNES system were like $50.00 by 1993, they were quite chap and NES carts were incredibly discounted. Nintendo didn't want to jack up the price of the SNES by including additional 8-bit hardware just to play older 8-bit games. They were a;ready giving Sony some sort of royalties for using that S-SMP 8-channel PCM chip. >>742445081>Not a problem on SEGAThe Genesis/ MD has Master System hardware built right into it. The Graphics chip is backwards compatible, the Z-80 is used as an audio controller in the Genesis, the system has a PSG secondary audio chip. All the Master System Converter did was ad a cartridge converter port, a card slot and some other minor circuitry. The converter only cost like $20.00 back in the day too. In some cases Sega would bundle it for free with the Genesis hardware. Even without the Master System converter the system can still play Master System games technically.
>>742444865At least in my case, I didn't have internet. Or even a computer. I didn't know backwards compatibility was an option.
>>742444865It was during the period where games were actually advancing and becoming much better so most people were fine with selling everything to get the new stuff. PS1 backwards compatibility in the PS2 was really not a big deal back in the day when the PS2 was brand new, it only became more of an issue as games became universally worse. I still remember when EB Games were discounting PS1 games for massive discounts when the PS2 was in its prime, simply no one gave a shit. I still regret passing up the copy of Valkyrie Profile I saw when it was dirt cheap.
>>742444865Because when you saw SNES graphics and heard the music, you didn't give a shit about NES games anymore/
>>742447427It was big enough of a deal. It let parents trade in the old console and not having to buy tons of new games since the new system could play the old games. This was mostly to keep the kids quiet until we made it past the launch titles.And on PlayStation end, this allowed stores to still sell off their cheaper last gen games. The ps1 had games coming out for years after the ps2 launched.
>>742444865Because people didn't understand how this stuff worked and those that did understood how impractical it was. Putting a older cpu into the motherboard was impractical in some cases. Especially the NES Ricoh chip. The SNES also had one but it wasn't like the 2000s or even today where cpus were mostly built with the same backend architecture. PowerPC,Arm,etc.
>>742448213It really wasn't impractical at all, it was just a cost benefit analysis that determined that it wasn't worth the increased cost to play older games when the hardware was plentiful.
>>742445149Stopped being an idort at switch. Can't be bothered anymore.
>>742444865the ps2 invented backwards compatibility
>>742449765Even the early PS2 units with the original Playstation MIPS processor for the IOP aren't 100% accurate. They still emulate the graphics end of Playstation games which results in different looking dither patterns. Shame it doesn't just render in 24-bit color instead.
>>742447427>PS1 backwards compatibility in the PS2 was really not a big deal back in the day when the PS2 was brand new,It actually was a pretty big deal to have PS1 backwards compatibility in the PS2 without any need for additional hardware or attachments. DVD playback and PS1 backwards compatibility were two really big selling points. The PS1 was the best selling piece of hardware during the 5th gen console cycle, there were a lot of people out there who invested in quite a bit of money into their PS1 libraries to just throw it all out for the next new thing. A lot of people didn't like having more than one console attached to their main TV, as it would cause a lot of clutter and additional wires. Being able to buy a PS2, keep your old PS1 library and just have the one machine (that can also play DVD's) in front of your TV was a big deal. Also the PS1 library was still quite viable in the early 2000's with games being discounted down to practically nothing. You could buy all the PS1 games you missed out on initially for nothing and build a low cost library of games. The PS2 was an incredible value when it launched.
The real problem was that adults weren't able to figure out why they needed a Super Nintendo when they "already have a Nintendo." It took a year of kiosks around America showing off Super Mario World's map exploration and F-Zero to convince people it was an upgrade.
>>742449765atari did it first
>>742450118Atari was too committed to it. They gimped every 5200 and 7800 because of forced 2600 hardware components and close to 100% cartridge compatibility.
>>742450118>atari did it firstnobody was alive back then
>>742450210They didn't did it with the 5200, which was seem as a mistake back then.The 5200 was just a gimped Atari 400.
>>742445072no there wasnt you fucking revisionist larper, kill yourself
>>742444865the original intention was to make it backwards compatibleits graphical capabilities in mode 0 are very similar to an enhanced nes (4 background planes instead of 1 with 2-bit palettes)however, the nes has such a weird and constraining architecture they scraped the ideathey also completely redid the audio subsystem, which also broke compatibility
>>742449986The PS2 might even be one of the best 'bang for your buck' consoles of all time. Especially if you bought one at launch and didn't own a DVD player. PSX backwards compatibility right out of the box, a low budget DVD player that actually worked. A massive PS2 library with thousands of games. In retrospect this may be the best value console of all time. Especially if you were a teenager or a college kid.
>>742446156Newer shit has lower build quality. That's just how shit is.
>>742444865Because everyone was excited for new games.
>>742450940It's very likely just the best console of all time, period. It's insane how good it's library was.
>>742450649The designers of the 5200 included 2600 compatibility. Marketing told them to cut it as they were convinced they could sell 5200 ports of 2600 games. So the designers made it completely incompatible, then on launch people were like "wtf do you mean we can't play our 2600 games on this?" Marketing panicked and then demanded the designers create a 2600 addon but of course it was already too late to prevent the crash.
>>742445521Parents should've been happy the new system made the old one cheaper. If their kid had no console now here, you can have. And if they want to play a new one, just let them visit their friends. That's what we did, one had a NES, one had a SNES, and one had a Sega, and we had fun. Maybe American parents hate when their children bring in friends or something.
>>742446834>Even without the Master System converter the system can still play Master System games technically.Yes, they can be played right off of a flash cart. I played through the original Phantasy Star recently on my Model 1 gen.
Yamauchi def wanted it, the 65c816 even had a 6502 ricoh back compat mode and its prob the only reason they didnt go with a 7mhz 68k like the genesisHow are those nes to snes ports done these days btw? They seem so accurate. Nes sound is just done as an spc700 driver while cpu runs in backcompat mode?
>>742450867> they also completely redid the audio subsystem, which also broke compatibilityYou could just do an accurate nes sound reproduction as an spc700 driver. Look at all those nes to snes ports that are coming out these days, sound is nearly identical
Short answer is that some parents were upset all their old games couldn't be played on it,. but it was a big enough step forward in features, graphics and came at the right time at a reasonableprice, that most who had a NES and enjoyed it significantly decided to upgrade to a SNES and it was reasonably affordable. You kept your NES too of course, it didn't stop working. Nintendo would go out of their way to add some compatibility. I can remember the>Super Game Boy for example which allowed you to play all your gameboy games on a big screen, in colors (well..other colors than the tiny green non-backlit screen of the original) . Some games even had enhanced SGB pallets; I remember Donkey Kong (which had a fuckton of levels) had special treatment for Super GameBoy.
>>742450940All that on top of it being the most powerful console on the market for a year and a half.
>>742451643true, but that's not backwards compatible for several reasons
>>742451318Atari 7800 actually fixed this and even had 2600 backward compatibility (supposedly this is the first console with backward compatibility) but Atari was well in the throes of the video game crash by this point
>>742449765PS had the best sense of aesthetics during that era. They were really able to sell the "this is the future" idea.
>>742449890It is always strange to me that Sony pretty much tends to go back and make "worse" versions of their hardware later on. This would continue up through the PS3 for instance; my "phat 60gb" model had the PS2 hardware built in and many other features - I even got the big dick option for the OtherOS/Linux removal settlement because I had a copy of Yellow Dog Linux I stumbled upon at university which proved that I could have actually used the feature not just having it available, meaning you'd get around $100+ in the settlement as opposed to $50 if you just had a Phat PS3 but no evidence you ever used other OS (which was either proof you currently ran it with an old version of the firmware, or a an install disc for linux compatible with it etc)
>>742446156the ds is just the worst console ever made, period
>>742450948what games thoughmario???
>>742450853You're retarded https://youtube.com/watch?v=MTzyz2TgGlsLike really retarded
>>742444865It didn't matter whatsoever, we just had several consoles plugged into the TV at the same time retard. TV's had like 5 device inputs. Same with sound systems. It looked cool. Just had to hit tv'video on the remote.
>>742444865Parents weren't happy they had to "buy a new Nintendo," but kids didn't care because the new games had better graphics and were generally larger. Plus you still had your NES so it wasn't like you couldn't still play your NES games.
>>742450853Yeah your ass got quiet after I BTFO of you with >>742454807 huh faggot
>>742457690>implying parents are the actual consumerskill yourself zoomer revisionist faggot
>>742459518>"oh fuck he got me, I better ironic shitpost to make it seem like I'm not bothered"Lmao loser
>>742444865everyone still owned their nes
>>742459991u lost
