>no single player game has ever managed to recreate this feel>even though we have games that cost 5x as much as WoW did originallyWhat went wrong
>>742453559>what went wrongLack of troll pussy
>>742453559for me it's genshit
Holy...
>>742453559>single playerWhy would you want a single player game like that? Wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle syndrome my dude
>>742453559what is it about WoW that seeing a single screenshot is almost enough to make me resub after swearing I would never play it again
Older games benefitted from there being less games over all. So communities where bigger and stronger. Now games are seen as disposable media you consume and move on the next. So even the newest biggest games, the ones with everyone hyped up for have maybe a 2-3 year life span
>>742453559https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfMn7UfZzGcI do miss it, spent the majority of fifteen years there, but I look at what its become since i left at the end of legion and just leave it as a memory...
>>742456123If you spent a lot of time playing it you can remember how much fun you had. You want to go back but you cant.
>>742453559It's all about warcraft lore (race wars), back when lore wasn't gay, inclusive, and jewish. The world feels believable and worthy of my attention.
>>742456123home
>>742455964https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roMWEeV2P4U
>>742453559For me its Daggerfall
>>742453559Post Eastern Kingdoms
>>742453559>Post-cataA butchered worldeven mulgore was ruined
I played retail from launch to end of TBC. Played a couple of TBC private servers a while ago. I'm thinking about getting my 3 gaming friends to play WoW on vanilla private server and we level as a group. They've never played games like it before, is that a good idea? I'm thinking we all start as human and the goal will be to finish Deadmines, then decide if we want to go any further.I feel like explaining the game mechanics and stopping them making retarded mistakes will take up a lot of my time.
I often listen to the vanilla music and cry.
>>742453559You posted it, specifically the version of the world maps that ruined it.
If you wanted to remake wow with current visual standards players expect it'd cost half a billion
>>742457770All that sovl lost, like tears in rain
>>742457861And it would add absolutely nothing to the game experience, in fact it would take away
>>742457861No one would want that though, the artstyle is part of what makes WoW timeless.
>>742457339I never want to see a furbolg again for the rest of my natural life
Fun fact, Kalimdor alone is larger than the worldspaces of Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim.
WoW was always normalfag mainstream casual shit
>>742457770Vanilla's OST generally had the best consistency but Invincible and Lament of the Higborne are musical perfection https://youtu.be/4n6WP9qHyRM?si=OV5Q6eEbtL3e4PBD
>>742458005Quality > Quantity!Guild Wars 2 mogs WoW and those three games that you mentioned!
>>742457861But I want early WoW/WC3 aesthetics. Not this weird shit they've turned WoW into over the last decade
>>742458108yea because it was a good game
>>742458197No because it was casual slop with cartoon graphics to pander kids.Proof of this? You were a kid or young teenager when you first played this casual crap, it was the equivalent of Fortnite back in the days.
Paid blizzard shilling thread.
>>742458303i first played wow when i was 18 years old. it's one of the greatest games of all time, as is fortnite btw. i know you're just talking shit, but if you really concern yourself with game design for a while you will see beyond your own tastes
>>742458502Try and be less obvious next time you shill.
>>742453559god it's so fucking ugly
>>742453559>Cataslop
>>742458134Yea its something special
>>742453559Stealth wow classic+ shill thread
>>742458558Being nostalgic for old WoW is normal. Actually wanting to play it in its current state is when it starts getting into shill territory
>>742457861Just remake it with the quality of new zones or maybe a little more crisp. New gen graphics would make it look like shit. Main thing people would want is higher quality player models
>>742458685Wow what a perfect timing now then because we will introduce Classic+™ so you can relive your nostalgia once again!This nostalgia thread shilling the old game is just a coincidence now that we will announce our latest nostalgia version of the game again.We're going home bros...
>>742453559vghhhh the art direction...
WoW's original, pre-cata world is the greatest open world of all time.
>>742458763Meds. Again, actually playing it is retarded, and I don't think people should play or give them money for Classic+ either.
>>742453559it's because you got older and times have changed uncto some zoomie the latest fortnite update will evoke the exact same feelings as wow did to you, and they'll lament it 30 years down the lineyou don't want games to go back to how they were, you want to go back yourselfbut you can't, the clock just keeps ticking forward
>>742458902but playing classic wow is fun. why shouldn't i pay?
>>742458767uncs really worship this ps2 ahh game cuz they played it when they were in middleschool lemao
>>742453559>post-cataclysm mapSoulless
>>742458945i played "vanilla" for the first time when it came out in 2019, so zero nostalgia and classic is all i play now.
>>742458956Get on a private server if you lack that basic level of self control
>>742458960I played it for the first time when I was 27 and it had the anniversary fresh and it pretty much instantly rose to my top 5 of all time
>>742453559LOTRO did a better job. Warcraft has always just been a poor man's Lord of the Rings.
>>742459032that's not an answer to my question
>>742458767This image has made me resub 3 times.
>>742457956billions must die
>>742459045I hate how small the world is in LOTRO
>>742459040uncpilled youth
Reading this thread made me resub Classic again, this game is just perfect.We are going home again bros...
>>742458767The best looking game ever made.
>>742459195for the horde?
You can't recreate the feeling of interacting with other unhinged geeks and nerds on the early 2000's internet, before gaming went to shit, when Warcraft still had promise, when MMO's still had a chance to become something deeper than an endless treadmill of grinding
/spit
>>742456306Communities were largely filled with people that actually engage with the subject of their own volition. Smartphones and social media brought along a metric ton of posers and basically annihilated subcultures as a concept.
>>742459454>You can't recreate the feeling of interacting with other unhinged geeks and nerds on the early 2000's internetMost people playing wow were normal kids in school.
>>742453559Crimson Desert unironically does
>>742459552and the way they behaved and interacted on the internet was radically different compared to what it is today, when there are no more hard separations between meatspace and what you do online, when everything is interconnected, fake and gayIf you are seriously trying to equivocate the social environment of 2000's internet with that of today, you are beyond wrong.
>>742453559Nobody has ever actually followed the Warcraft model because the Warcraft model involves 3 games of buildup before you get your WoW
>>742457861A few developers could make a few mobs and a zone per day and have an MMO of content in a month or two. You could make trees choppable in a day.
>>742459727Get on it.
I used to work for EverQuest back in the day. If the thread is still up when I get back I'll tell a few stories. Still love MMOs today, fucking hate the monetization and other garbage they've become most of the time (gacha, mobile, and others are ever worse though so tis industry wide sadly). Played WoW from Vanilla through Legion and for a few reasons, despite some great memories, couldn't stomach what they changed in all the wrong ways.One of the closest things to the oldfag MMO experience, in terms of the community and openness of the whole thing if not the RPG playstyle is, like >>742459454 mentioned possible in Star Citizen . Seriously. More on it later, but I came in during an in-game event on the (vertical slice alpha, public universe) and I had some random guys helping me finish the event specific 5 tier multistage missions to get the award , after receiving a rescue beacon because my ship blew up on a barren planet and didn't want to suicide to lose all the shit I picked up. I was surprised that after giving me a lift back, they basically escorted me through the whole thing - that was the kind of thing I used to remember back in the old days at EQ, FFXI, and WoW during the early days when you'd help someone out and make their day, and it may likely do it for you too. Sure you also remember the assholes but that's always an issue. Anyway back later
>See this thread>Get the wow itch again>Know that even if I resub, the game that I'm thirsty for doesn't exist anymore
Everyone fellated Turtle WoW and while it was certainly better than official, I found it lame and soulless. People barely talked to each other, everyone was just doing quests as quickly as possible and the chat was only funny after midnight when the faggot moderators went to sleep because they'd throw a fucking fit if you said anything spicier than mayo.
>>742458804>Questing and mob grinding.I disagree.
>>742459769play hardcore
Conquest of Azeroth tomorrow fellow joggers
>>742459195>giving money to pozzardshan't be falling for it indian blizz shill
>>742458134If it’s invincible then why can I hear it
Wow fags are delusionalWow was never a good game, you were just a kid when you played it for the first time. Objectively MMOs that came before WoW were better but they didn't achieve the same level of popularity because they were more difficult. WoW was just the first casual MMO which makes it even funnier when you faggots pretend that the old WoW was complicated.
>>742460129you're just seething. but why?
>>742460129Counterpoint: I enjoyed vanilla more in 2019 than I did in 2004
>>742460129ok but i liked it
>WTS XYZ Boosts | 40g per run | I keep loot | 4 slots open, PST!Yeah no thanks.
>>742460204Nuh uh, I did
>>742460129It was fine when people didn't see through the world (leveling was still novel and didn't feel like hundreds of hours of a dumbed down, forced tutorial; and they didn't have hundreds of other games to play). Just make a risk:reward sandbox MMO. Even Blizzard could do it. They already have 2 RTS games -- why not 2 MMOs? They could even just do sandbox servers on WoW.
>>742453559>catashitsm
>742460426Nutriments nigger has arrived
>>742453559>scatashytm map
>>742453559>capitalism map
>>742458945You can go back. And you will. You’ll get to experience every experience of wow that ever existed and will exist. Life is just God experiencing linear time over and over. A million bullion lifetimes, all because we can’t face the only truth that we are the only thing in all of existence. We are utterly alone. There is no other. But at least we can pretend that isn’t true in this place. That’s why we come back every time
>>742460717shut up faggot
>>742460717wow that's so deep, did chatgpt write that for you?
>>742455325Is genshin actually fun or is do you only like it because the girls?
>>742461089NTA but genshin was kinda cute to explore back on release or update 1 or whenever they introduced the first chink areabut nowhere near vanilla wow levels, it's not even close
>>742453559wildstar did it
Horde has hotter women
>>742462002The sky is blue
>>742460613Did NOT expect a Harv5 photo in the year 2026
>>742461829did anybody actually play that game? how was it?
>>742462293combat was very fun but it was buggy as fuck so I ended up dropping it
>>742453559>>no single player game has ever managed to recreate this feelspeak for yourself, exploration in wow sucks
How to end my day in record time.>be ffxiv dreaming>dodge the orange names>wake up melancholic >some ffxiv music >close in the distance>our journey now a memory fading from sight>unbroken promises we made so long ago>unspoken requiem for a river of tears>flowing winding toward eternal sea
>>742453559What feel, exploring a bloated artificial feeling world where you had to do dumb fetch and kill quests and none of it makes sense as a coherent world even with abstraction? Because that's every Ubisoft game ever, except occasionally they have more interesting things to do and have some pretense at making sense.
>>742458804No, because one, it's not an open world, it has more in common with a game world like Gothic's than a true open world, and two if I evaluated it as an open world it would fail miserably at being a good open world. No rewards for exploration. Going off the beaten path gets you nothing. There are no interesting areas to explore.
Kingdoms of amalur
>>742457770>the most generic orchestrashit and ambient known to man>cryYou are a faggot
>>742459727Tank n spank mobs and fetch quests are all garbage tho
>>742464053t. wasn't there
>this threadhttps://youtu.be/7hwaLaBkjtQ?is=fH9N1VS2xRPrsSU5
>>742453559
>>742459567The game shows how easy it is to make a breathtaking world. Every game can do it easily. Making it actually matter is another thing entirely, which that game also proves, by failing to do it.
>>742458767Maybe I'm just not playing as many games as I used to, but it feels like modern games don't have such bold use of colors like this anymore. Everything feels so washed out
>>742465326everything is so dark and emo gay. fromsoft fan faggotry poisoned all games to do this
>>742453559Ferelas was such a weird zone. It’s just in the middle of nowhere with nothing going on besides DM. You have a whole island with stupid flying dragons dedicated to nothing. The zone above Orgrimmar was equally random.
>>742459567This.
For me, it’s Stonetalon Mountains.
I like erenshor. Not the same as wow as its based on EQ inatead, but if you could get an erenshor-but-wow then I am certain you woukd enjoy it.
>>742453559have you tried Rift? the theme park mmo from way back? people usually loved that one if they hopped over from WoW to it.
for me, no game will ever capture Everquests mmo feel, atmosphere, worldhttps://youtu.be/egErjaxXK-c?si=o3cw4Md3MSW7pHHl
>>742465961Ferelas is comfy questing, and they did add an emerald nightmare world boss to it.AFAIK Azshara was supposed to have more, including a moba-style BG around it's zone aesthetic, but was cut. Odds are Azshara had a lot of cut content. I always wanted to know more about the ruins and Furbolgs there.
I’ll be rolling a chronomancer and witch doctor tomorrow on Conquest of Azeroth (TM) ^^
>>742466516I remember that one.... i've tried playing it on occasion but i don't remember why i dislike it after a while? Might be that a lot of stuff is locked behind a store (same reason i'm not all that fond of LOTRO honestly) but i think there was more to it.
>>742457234Yeah... I thought about buying Midnight but >Box price>Sub price>Cash shop >WoW tokensWhat I want is gone. What I really want is to be 15 again.>trying to rope 9 randoms on my RP server to ICC>Killing the first boss>Getting weekly raid locked>Wiping on 2nd or 3rd boss before disbanding Good times. I miss them.
>>742458161No one plays it
>>742453559It was a different time. Plus no ip did a rts to mmo transition to capture this kind of magic
>>742466609Desolace was better. Nobody ever did the stonetalon>desolace route especially alliance so you faced minimal bullshit while leveling; and if they did try to gank its a pretty open zone so you know where they are.
I miss the player ecosystem of WoW in it's early years. fresh noobs with people interacting, grouping to quest, and learning together by sharing what they learned. questing at low levels and finding a priest nearby to just get a stam buff could make all the difference for some areas, especially if you're new and shit.running into a cool high level player who was willing to help you out by giving you a run or free gear felt great, and later on when I became high level it felt good to pass it on by decking out new players, or giving them some cool item/consumes.a lot of this has been gone for years as most things have a guide before being released and leveling turning into just a speed bump for end game, there isn't a need anymore.Classic 2019 was such a shitshow of poopsockers rushing to 60 to raidlog, even people who never played vanilla wow were aoe grinding as mages to rush to max level instead of enjoying the game.TL:DRtime's change and I'm sad.
