Once in a while, its nice to talk about UTY, as well as some of the fangames it ended up inspiring. It makes me look back on game dev processes and wonder how much a devs ideas might change from when he starts making a game. Things that you might expect were going to be important early on that end up getting less focus in the final product.What do (you) think? Are you working on any games or fanworks of your own where something like this has come to mind?
>>742662621shabbat shalom, i'm a masonic jew and undertale fangames are my favorite games with mixtape and expedition 33
>>742662621My idea has changed quite a bit from when I first started with my game, it has mostly expanded, which is weird because I thought I would be cutting stuff left and right, sometimes when you start a project you realize you didn't have as many ideas as you though you did.
Honestly I have to wonder if there was any plan at all with Dalv beyond "vampire monster in a dark place!"
>>742663197that makes sense. it takes a lot of concepts and ideas to make something after all, though I imagine there's still gotta be a point where you come up with something and realize you have to cut it out.
>>742663274I've tought of this before too, apparently they had Ceroba planned since the days of the first demo, you would think they could come up with a better way for Dalv to connect with the rest of the plot
>>742663464to be fair, the Ceroba they had in mind back then was a very uniquely different person. I'm curious if they had a "strange" idea for dalv too and when they discarded beta roba they also discarded original dalvs arc or something.
>>742663443>though I imagine there's still gotta be a point where you come up with something and realize you have to cut it out.Maybe, but I haven't reached that point yet, I still need to fill up certain areas and come up with scenes so things don't end being too empty or flat, some of my major characters are barely developed as well, so that's another thing I still need to adress.
>>742663590>I'm curious if they had a "strange" idea for dalv too and when they discarded beta roba they also discarded original dalvs arc or something.They would have talked about it if they did, the only discarded idea they had for Dalv was him and Decibat originally being a single character, IMO they should have stayed that way, current Dalv barely changes the plot with his presence and most of your interactions with him feel shallow.
>>742663274I imagine he's a shoe-in for the struggles of the devs being social recluses. A bunch of the dark ruins seems related to nerd culture, like Penilla being a struggling artist and Crispy Scroll being a LARPer. It's believable a bunch of high school students starting on a fangame decided to write what they knew at the start.
>>742663797>only discarded idea they had for Dalv was him and Decibat originally being a single character,oh yeah I forgot about that. Yeah I guess I can see that, they would have talked about it somewhere most likely.>Dalv barely changes the plot with his presence and most of your interactions with him feel shallow.I still stand by that idea a while back to have him show up throughout the game.
I come bearing a meme from the future, after Oldentale has released.Fortunately, humor has progressed very little in the time leading up to its release, so this meme should be very understandable.
>>742664007hey its wiki! I love that gal.
>>742663945>I still stand by that idea a while back to have him show up throughout the game.I don't know if him showing up more would have helped that much, Toriel shows up once after the ruins and yet everyone remembers her, because the game keeps reminding you of her existance, and she has a very important connection to the game's central conflict.
>>742662621which fangame is the most nortubel tier?
>>742664171>and she has a very important connection to the game's central conflict.Dalv does too (in theory) and the idea involved him progressing through the underground learning more about what happened to the person that left him corn/learning what became of the family he used to babysit for, making it a way for the player to naturally learn about what happened over the course of the game while giving him time to develop as a character more.
>>742664284WGYTale
>>742664289They could have made it so you get a few references to Dalv in Snowdin, and once you reach the Dunes you find him on Oasis Town where he mets Martlet if she's following you, or make it so he's on the saloon, maybe he wanted to talk with Ceroba again after the Snowdin incident.
>>742664549Honestly all of those would be good. You don't even need to overhaul the game to give him more relevance in that way.
How long until prequel soul fangames based on the Flowers from chapter 5 show up?
How would you feel if the scrimblo you are in love with and slept with was actually a Netskie disquised as one? What would you do? Would you tell your actual scrimblo about it, or will you try to keep it a secret?
>>742664896I would wake up and not entertain another netskie inspired ntr discussion.
>>742664896come on man at least give us 200 posts before you ruin the thread again.
>>742664896This scenario asumes I'm dating or married to my scrimblo already, but since that isn't the case nothing would be happening here, this isn't NTR
Dollar Store Fun Gang vs Legally Distinct TeamWho wins this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIIrBFyl5z4
>>742664739Long ass time to never.
>>742665306I'm giving this to dollar store fun gang. They never asked for this, they fight to survive even if their existence is incorrect.
>>742665306Wait which is which?
>>742665342I think there's a good chance one of them shows up in a few weeks, it will probably never go beyond the concept stage, but then again, so did most of those orange games that were announced after UTY released
>>742665306The Justice Crew apprehends them both for being criminells
>>742665391oh wait, dollar store is the picture isn't it. I'm retarded. no, legally distinct has this in the bag.
>>742665439legally distinct team are the ones from the video, the snoot game looking OCs are the dollar store fun gang
>>742664965>>742664973This is an actual philosophical question
>>742665489>criminellsIf Cole ever starts speaking like Yellow we are shooting him up
>>742665623You dragged this kind of "philosophical question" over the course of the whole last thread. Begone tobert.
>>742665714But actually, if you do something very bad without knowing or an intention to do so, would you come clean about it and tell the truth or try to hide it?
>>742665948NTA, I did nothing wrong, I'm not in a relationship with my scrimblo
>>742666014But what if you were?
>>742665661Do you think Cole was a fan of the floral cowboy show?
recent events have had me thinking about how cute this fox is.I suspect Dryanon had this level of cuteness planned all along.
>>742665948fuck off, we dont want to talk about your cuck fetish.
>>742666161what events?
>>742666081I would tell my scrimblo and hope they understand the situation, I imagine someone like Ceroba or Martlet would be understanding of the situation
>>742666262greens involving her and that lewd fic that managed to be extremely cute as well.
>>742666298Based
>>742666161This "cute" fox will beat a person to death in chapter 3
My friend was disappointed about Chapter 5 so I told him to play UTY and DRY. He is now a big fan of the big fox. Oddly enough the pacifist ending really resonated with him, despite having mixed opinions here.>>742666436Only if Cole encourages her.
>>742666161She's just adorable >>742666153I think it was just a cowboy show, not a flora cowboy show
>>742666508>Oddly enough the pacifist ending really resonated with himI almost got teary eyed with UTY's pacifst ending, which is weird because it takes a lot for me to feel emotional about anything in fiction, but a few days later I thought a bit more on the ending and I realized how dumb it really was
>>742666549There's a floral cowboy branded curtain as one of Tenna's prizes, I think they are the same thing
>>742666635this is literally how most creators "get you" nowadaysit happened to digital circus, it happened with DR chapter 5and will likely happen when chapter 7 is released too
>>742666508>Oddly enough the pacifist ending really resonated with him, despite having mixed opinions here.the pacifist ending is definitely emotional, it's just also frustrating because the more you think about it the more it feels like the characters didn't respond how they would have in the situation.>>742666549>She's just adorabletrue
>>742666508>Only if Cole encourages herMore like, doesn't stand up to her true self and allows it to fester
>>742666436even better!
>>742662621Does DRY have LGBT characters and/or themes?
>>742667000No, as well as UTY
>>742667000No, the main couple is heterosexual
>>742667000
>>742667000Absolutely none of that. The closest that might count is a secondary character named Moray being referred to as they, but that's carried over from UTY and has no bearing on anything else.
>>742667169What?
>>742667169Syrup isn't LGBT
>>742667169Little miss "fuck me mistah Cappuccino" is not ghey
>>742667242>>742667286>>742667219I didn't say she is. She's just smug. Waffle machine sexo.
>>742667286>"fuck me mistah Cappuccino"Mistah Chujin*
>>742666972Where did your sense of "jundice" go, cowboy larper dustlicker freak?
>>742663118Mental illness
>>742667324>Waffle machine sexo.Agreed
I went full Genocide purely because I didn't like a single character in this game.
>>742667443Chara...
>>742667343What would happen if instead of Toasty, Ms Syrup would be the head of the breakfast gang and be the boss of the dark world?
>>742667443Juicy Roba roobs
>>742667690She kindnaps Chujin and wants to marry him so he can have a wife that can cook him the meals he deserves
>daughter brought a h*man boy homeOwari da
Thinkin about the foxes, about the birds.
>>742668301What if it's Krismas?
I woke up with the most severe migraine I've had in months, barely able to stand hearing ambient noise from outside or look at small amounts of light, so I imagined Wiki using healing magic on my head until I could fall back asleep for a bit, and that seems to have helped slightly.I don't know if healing magic would help dull pain if there isn't an actual injury for it to affect, but it's nice to imagine as such.Back to work.
you did get the canon ending, right?
>>742668651I don't think regular green magic could help with migraines, but they probably have other types of bullets made to dull that kind of pain
I haven't been in UTY threads for some time, can i get a status report of each fangame that's been talked about here?
>>742668795Ah, you're probably right.Then again, still have no clue what actually causes these for me, so maybe there really is something damaged up there that could benefit from healing magic.Still, I like the mental image of either laying my head in her lap, or having her at my bedside, as she gently presses her hands to my head while she tries to help with the pain, with a look of concern on her face.
>>742668971DRY is working chapter 3, Geltarune shown a new sneak peakOtherwise nothing pretty much
>>742668656Would Flowey have been able to get Yellow through the Underground to fight Asgore?
Reminder that this is how Toby Fox see your fandom.
>>742669104Darkners are more powerful than regular humans, Yellow would stomp the underground
>>742669104Flowey might not have been able to stop Yellow from killing himself after he fell into the dark ruins because he blamed himself for putting a hole in Toriel's floor.
>>742669204Integrity is canonically dead in UTY though
>>742669204>Toby fox sees gay men as an object of ridiculeMakes a lot of sense actually, it would explain the royal guards and nicepants crashing and burning
>>742669278Yes, totally ignore than Blue isn't that bird that you guys love
>>742669204Even if that were the case, we still have other fangames like Naranja and Oldentale, Toby can't make fun of those
>>742669354For now and as long as they don't try to cross Toby Fox.
>>742669267>"Aww shucks, I done did vandalismed that poor sweet old lady's floor. Time for the Hyper Punishment Gun."
What sort of taxonomic classifications do you think exist for Deltarune monsters?Off the top of my head, this is what I think the major categories are:>OrganicThe various anthro and not-so-anthro characters we know and love, who could conceivably exist with our understanding of biology.>SiliconMonsters that resemble masonry and ceramic, including Bowll and the Shufflers, even if you'd think they would be darkners.>Fire elementalsGrillby, that one waitress, Luzma, etc. who are basically sentient flame>Water/ice elementalsIce Hat, Know Cone, etc. Don't ask me how they work or why they don't melt.>GhostsSelf-explanatory. I don't know if possession rules or any of the regular laws of physics apply to them.Most of these shouldn't exist in a world without magic but they are canon. Maybe there are other types.
The person responsible for making HL2 stalker proportioned transmasc Ceroba is dumping all of their other art on esix like a mining corporation would dump mineral runoff into a river.Apparently they tried making an overworld sprite for Ceroba at one point, and even that looks noticeably long.
>>742669350Why would Integrity be a bird? Have you even played the game?
>>742667000DRY's primary purpose is to develop the kanaclover/Kanacole shipIt's very heterosexual
>>742669204>blue gay nigga canonically killed lots of monstersOkay Toby
>>742669542>and even that looks noticeably long.Maybe they have some crazy limb proportion fetish
>>742662621Finished it this week and it was kino.Better than the original.>actual incentive to not kill the characters>main characters are more than just tropes and have an actual dynamic with you>plot pacing is better>Martlet is Papyrus if he wasn't an annoying retard
>>742670117That is possible.They also made another sprite even longer than this one, but the other one doesn't seem to be an overworld sprite exactly.
>>742670117Here's that other sprite.I'm frankly not even sure what to say about it, just look at it.
>>742670642Holy fuck, Im looking at it anon, i dont know what to do other than look at it
>>742670136what did you think of the ending?
>>742664007Is using an outdated sprite part of the joke in the future?
>>742669398What's Toby gonna do about Naranja? Orange already exists
>>742671232Of course.Making the sprites noticeably compressed and also unnecessarily wide is also still in style at the time.
>>742664896What if I'm in love with Netskie?
>>742664739Hopefully never
>>742665306>Not!Susie's last name is dyke
>>742671232outdated?
>>742664896I'm taking the Hughie Campbell approach, thank you.If I was actually in a relationship with the real one at the time anyway, otherwise who knows.
>>742670520All Robas must be long.I should draw something but I'm full of clam chowder and my wrist hurts and my bottom eyelids are heavy.
>>742665306Legally Distict team has more soul. That song kinda sucks compared to his other tracks though.
>>742662621So is Deltarune Yellow a good game or is it just there for kanaclover fluff?
>>742671534The song might not be as good as the others but the Champion has a pretty cool design regardless
>>742671571Its kanaclover first, then some good attempts at other stuff second (I think dryanon comes up with really good boss patterns). His humor is different than DR, but I like it a lot.
>>742669491Don't forget the undead.
>>742666508He finished them pretty quick if he played them after chapter 5.
>>742671724I don't think those need their own categories, they can be divided into Ghosts and organics, maybe skeletons could have their own category or they would be a subset of organics
>>742671436They changed it, her last name is now Juniper, I think
>>742671571It's genuinely good and well-crafted. Kanaclover is the centerpiece but other characters we know and love from UTY are treated well. The alt route is also quite unique.>>742671751He refused to play UTY any further after his pacifist run because he likes the characters so much he can't bear to bring them any harm.
>>742667286I'm now imagining her sounding like Olivia from Popeye
>>742669491Deltarune must have some amount of magic in the light world, unless there's someking of bullshit science explanation for elemental and ghost monsters
>>742667690She kisses ass to Chujin with the goal of becoming his wife, supposedly out of infatuation, but actually because she's a gold digger who wants to rule Robotopia. Of course Chujin is blissfully ignorant to her attempts at romance because he's too caught up in the confusion of dark worlds.
>>742671991>unless there's someking of bullshit science explanation for elemental and ghost monstersSee, the "ghosts" are actually beings made of loose, but magnetically bound particles, making them capable of passing through solid matter of certain densities, and giving them a semi-transparent "ghost-like" appearance.
>>742672049She still acts smug about being a superior cook to Roba
>>742672106alright, now explain fire elementals and why they don't burn everything around them with their mere existence
>Undertale Yellow OST: A Mother's Love (With Lyrics)
>>742668971Wildfire is MIA, DRY has two chapters out with a third on the way, Naranja has a demo and is in active development, DRY 2 has been making good progress, Oldentale is still in development, and there's a new game about a wagie working in a dark world McDonald's.
>>742671892Juniper Juniper? Also they could've just had van Dyke as her last name.>>742672049Chujin being immune to femme fatales and blissfully unaware of their advances due to his autistic curiosity and his undying love for his wife is a cute detail.>>742672202I think they can consciously control their metabolism. Relatively cold flames can exist, too.
>>742671362Netskie disquised as Netskie?
>>742672202They're made of a kind of phlogiston, but nothing else is, so they actually don't burn particularly hot, since they're made of something that naturally burns like that at low temperatures.
>>742672226I unironically enjoy those
>>742672286>>742671892it is juniper levii now
>>742669491Animal, Vegetable, and mineral. With ghosts and other weirdos being in the other category.
>>742672315So that means that I can safely smooch Luzma then?
>>742669542>Apparently they tried making an overworld sprite for CerobaPost it
>>742672449I did, it's up here (>>742670520), with another sprite they made being below that.
>>742662621I don't like dalv and think he honestly makes a bad first impression of the game.
>>742670520>>742670642Scary tall
>>742670117>>742670520>>742670642Pic related is by the same artists and is meant to be sexy btw
>>742672421She can already be safely smooched if you aren't a coward, but yes.
>>742672545Roba if she canon
>>742670136You interested in trying any other fangames.
>>742672421Shu...
>>742672545I have to wonder what someone's mind has to be like in order to think this looks even remotely presentable.I swear, if any of those stay on esix despite their level of quality, I'm gonna go insane.
>>742672545Still not as bad as the one with mastectomy scars
>>742672554>Blue flames generally burn between 1400°C and 1650°C (2550°F to 3000°F)But only one time, and healing magic doesn't exist in this world, but that does give me the idea of an anon dating Delta!Luzma and only being able to safely interact with her while inside a dark world
>>742671470Its in the wrong aspect ratio and color palette. I'll need to make a new one.
>>742671571The light world sections are nice, but I found the dark worlds to be hollow narratively and a slog to play. Hoping he fixes that.
Alright then.Post your Cerobas you've drawn if you're so great. At least this little art nigga is trying.
>>742672675Her face is actually kinda cute and the lighting is well done, everything else looks drawn by someone that has only ever heard descriptions of what a human/anthro body looks like
>>742672752>hollow narrativelyWhat does that mean?
>>742667000The anons here are lying to you, there is a 10 minute hidden sex scene between Starlo and Chujin on the “Forbidden Route” of the game
>>742672763Look man, that guy actually has some good drawing skills, but he needs to study more anatomy if he doesn't want his character to look as if they were drawn by a less skilled Vivziepop
>>742671893>He refused to play UTY any further after his pacifist run because he likes the characters so much he can't bear to bring them any harm.Could you at least get him to kill some random common enemy to see the neutral ending? Or to watch a playthrough?
>>742672656I don't think Delta!Shu would be bragging about dating an ex cartel member, or maybe he would, for the aura it brings him
>>742672107Roba would murder her if they met.
>>742672907I told him to kill a robot to get neutral first but to no avail. I would rather he doesn't watch a playthrough because the neutral ending is far better experienced for oneself. Maybe at some point he'll try it on his own.
>>742672595Probably>>742671163I liked it and how it tied with the original
>>742672763True, I one time saw this really shitty suggestive Ceroba art posted by someone on Twitter this year that got 3k likes. Like, worse than this guy. It wasn’t by any anon here nor a well known UTY artist, but it looked like a child drew it. Wish I could find it because it pissed me off, it wasn’t tagged
Reposting Sig's last drawing, he actually made pick a human woman over a monster girl, I am a disappointment for everything these threads stand for
>>742672797Not much happens in them and most of what does anything special. I'm a person who plays these games for the plot and the writing, and DRY doesn't do much on either front.
>>742662621adventure time reject lol
>>742673127You don't have to choose, you know.
>>742673127You are weak, not because you would, but because your dick is not strong enough for both.
Last repost (from me anyway) for the Ceroba/Anon cunnilingus overstim image for anyone who missed it and wants to see it: https://files.catbox.moe/a575wz.pngCurrently working on wrapping up a drawing of Wiki, after which I will do another drawing of Wiki.Or maybe something else really quickly, if I have time.
>>742673127God that hip nudge is powerful sexo energy.>>742673268I cant remember, did you say what this current wiki image would be, or is it going to be a surprise?
>>742673398>or is it going to be a surprise?It's going to be a surprise so I can make a really dumb joke that will be funny to no one but me before I post the drawing.I'm nearly done with the lineart, so I should have it done for this thread.The next planned image after this is going to be based on that one "polynesian sex" green, though I may make a quick detour to do something else I had in mind with another character before that, if I can manage it fast enough.
>>742673574>I'm nearly done with the lineart, so I should have it done for this thread. Nice, I'll likely be asleep before its posted but Ill go back and seek it out if the thread is die.>The next planned image after this is going to be based on that one "polynesian sex" green, though I may make a quick detour to do something else I had in mind with another character before that, Nice as well, im curious what the other character is.Either way Ill find out in due time
>>742673127Melody and Val are cousinsMy only proof is that they both smirk a lot, have no eyes and that their skin is darker than Cole's
>>742674010Thats racist
>>742674118that post was obviously made by Chujin, he saw two troublesome ningens with surface level similarities and assumed they must be related
>>742673858>Nice, I'll likely be asleep before its posted but Ill go back and seek it out if the thread is die.Ah, sorry about that, I'd have probably been able to finish it sooner than I likely will if I hadn't been incapacitated by that migraine earlier.Either way, I'm still making progress on it.I just hope Oldentale anon is around by the time I make the joke before posting the image, because otherwise my joke won't land, which it already won't for literally anybody else but me but I also don't care about that.>Nice as well, im curious what the other character is.I can't give the specifics on the other thing because then my brain will give me dopamine if people respond to it and it will make me less likely to do it for some reason and I still want to do it.It's not that complicated of an image, shouldn't take too terribly long to make if I do decide to do it as a quick thing, though it might not be the most visually complex thing in the world either, being set from the side.
Fuck off.>>>/vg/
I wonder how long shades of justice will take
I sometimes think about how my various scrimblos would react to me losing my soul and becoming more detached and evil right in front of them, like if my body rose from the dead without my soul or something.I have a massive guilty pleasure for the idea of being corrupted (not a fetish, I just think it's a cool thing in storytelling) as one of my loved ones tries to turn me back to normal out of love.I've just been imagining Ceroba or someone trying to get me to stand down as I coldly threaten to do something terrible for some reason, as I say my soul was only holding me back with its "compassion" and "empathy", some dumb edgy bullshit like that.Of course, being broken through to by the power of love is a big part of it, so maybe I'd still need to have my soul shoved back inside me, but still.Anywho-
>>742675324Ceroba would get flashbacks from Chujin/Kanako if she saw you in that state.Luzma would think you're joking at first and would enjoy trying to out perform your edginess.Wiki would be too sad to fight or would switch to "battle mode" and just go for the kill.
>>742675523>Ceroba would get flashbacks from Chujin/Kanako if she saw you in that state.Why so?It's not like she'd have to fear losing me, unless she plans on trying to do me in herself.>Luzma would think you're joking at first and would enjoy trying to out perform your edginess.Yeah, I could see that. I wonder how long that would go on for before she goes "wait a sec", and realizes I'm not joking around.>Wiki would be too sad to fight or would switch to "battle mode" and just go for the kill.Huh, reminds me of that one conversation from a while back.So, I lose my soul, and she either lays down, or tries to kill me, eh?I suppose the latter could still count as being willing to kill "for" me, if she sees putting my soulless body down as "avenging me".Still, can't help but be a little disappointed she wouldn't try and break through to me, give me a good "I know you're still in there", that's always the best.
>>742675891Isn't part of the premise of this scenario that you are, in fact, not "still in there"?
>>742671529Doodled another roba thing because
>>742676102Yes, but that doesn't mean I can't still appreciate the thought.Besides, if my soul hasn't been destroyed entirely, maybe I could be put back "in there" and returned to normal by force.It's still the power of love, just being used to shove my soul back inside my chest or something.
>>742676203>the graphicsWoah blast from the past
>>742676203Oh, neat.Bit of a harsh depiction of her, but neat.
>>742674517>Janitor acceptance emails will be sent out over the coming weeks. Make sure to check your spam folder!
>>742667412Wrong
>>742673083Just found out about UT Yellow and I'll be playing it.
>>742675891>Why so?Could be something to do with seeing a loved one in such a dire state, just like with Chujin in his last moments or Kanako when she fell down, once again she's put in an horrible situation without a clue on what to do.>Yeah, I could see that. I wonder how long that would go on for before she goes "wait a sec", and realizes I'm not joking around.Probably once you try to harm someone else, its all fun and games thinking she has a boyfriend that can keep up with her edgelord shenanigans, until he actually tries to eat a baby or put a bomb in an orphanage, she might slap you a few times to see if you're still there, but when even the heat of her flames isn't enough to get a reaction, that's when the silliness must take a back seat, or ramp it up, maybe she'll bring you back with the power of love and anime, after you both have an emotional and climatic battle (with Linkin Park music on the background)>Still, can't help but be a little disappointed she wouldn't try and break through to me, give me a good "I know you're still in there", that's always the best.Wiki is the kind of woman that you must stop from killing herself whenever she's feeling down, I'm not sure if she can take dealing with a zombified version of her loved one, maybe the "battle mode" is a sort of defense mechanism for her, whenever the pressure is too much, maybe she tries to kill you at first, but even putting the helmet on isn't enough to stop the feelings and that's when she tries acting instead of fighting.That being said, I'm not sure how any of them is going to fix this, how much love do you need to fill a body without a soul?
>>742676203I like the top left roba, she's nice looking>GrafixThis will be Roba in 2013
>>742673127>that Sadiethose things are the size of her head
>>742676280I was listening to a mashup of an Unused Mettaton theme and a hip hop song. It had those lyrics in it and thought it was funny.>>742676258>>742676606Toby Fox gets to do THIS?!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRWvfMLl4ho
>>742676203Undertale/Deltarune characters randomly becoming Hyper realistic versions of themselves will never stop being funny (For me at least)
>>742676521>once again she's put in an horrible situation without a clue on what to do.Ah, okay, I see what you mean now.>its all fun and games thinking she has a boyfriend that can keep up with her edgelord shenanigans, until he actually tries to eat a baby or put a bomb in an orphanageI'll have you know the things I would do while soulless would probably be much more specific but probably more harmful than that overall.>maybe she'll bring you back with the power of love and anime, after you both have an emotional and climatic battle (with Linkin Park music on the background)Ah, see, that works, I'll have an AMV showdown with her as she tries to turn me back to normal and stop my evil plans.>Wiki is the kind of woman that you must stop from killing herself whenever she's feeling downJesus, okay. Man, I knew she wasn't always in the best of spirits, but I didn't figure it was that bad for her. If I had my soul, I'd probably feel bad for her.>maybe the "battle mode" is a sort of defense mechanism for her, whenever the pressure is too much, maybe she tries to kill you at first, but even putting the helmet on isn't enough to stop the feelings and that's when she tries acting instead of fighting.Interesting.So, she's fighting more to try and protect herself emotionally, rather than to really try and stop me?I feel like I'd probably start making jabs at her about it, like "Aw, what happened to all that "I'll die for you" talk?", really rubbing salt in the wound as she fights.This does give me a neat mental image, of her with her helmet on, one of her eyes slightly reflecting some light allowing it to be visible, revealing tears streaming down her face, even as she tries to keep herself under control.>That being said, I'm not sure how any of them is going to fix this, how much love do you need to fill a body without a soul?The easiest fix is if my soul is still around somewhere, just not inside me at the moment, but otherwise I have no idea. (out of space)
>>742676965What would a hyper realistic Starlo look like?
>>742677163
>>742676965No youre right, its fantastic stuff
>>742675324Reynault would be a very bad influence on soulless Anon.
Big fluffy $$$$-ing tails
Having played UTY I have no idea how it ended up being as popular as it did. None of the characters were particularly interesting or gripping, with the only slight exception being Starlo. There wasn't even any meta mystery to grab onto.
>>742675324>like if my body rose from the dead without my soul or somethingAre you talking about a Mindwipe from Casualties: Unknown? It's basically what you're describing and is essentially a chemical lobotomy, leaving the afflicted experiment permanently "hollow" and changed. The implication is that it's no longer the same consciousness.
>>742677340See, I've done some thinking about that too, and I think I thought of an interesting angle for that.I think I might end up going too far for even him to be okay with it, depending on what I feel like doing.I think if I saw even the slightest opportunity to make some changes to the world through certain actions, I could easily see myself (soulless) doing terrible things in the name of an ostensible "greater good", and I could see Reynault not being on board with that past a certain point, especially if it starts to get in the way of his fun at all.Of course, the most obvious conclusion of that is that Reynault would probably try and kill me, albeit not likely in a direct fight, though I do like the alternative possibility that he might try and get my soul back inside me to try and turn me back to normal again, if he liked having the real me around enough.Kinda like in Buffy the vampire slayer, when Spike initially wants Angel to lose his soul and become Angelus again, but eventually changes his mind once he remembers what an asshole Angelus was.
>>742677090>would probably be much more specific but probably more harmful than that overall.But would they be as comically evil? Because if your evil plans align with her more evil desires she might join you, you could be the most evil pair of edgy villains, unless your plans are too boring to her.>I'll have an AMV showdown with her as she tries to turn me back to normal and stop my evil plans.It will be the most emotional AMV (Or Live Action Music Video?) in the world, it will get millions of views on the Undernet.>I knew she wasn't always in the best of spirits, but I didn't figure it was that bad for her. Just so you know I'm not Oldentale anon, but I'm pretty sure he did say at one point that she's the type of woman you have to stop from killing herself.>So, she's fighting more to try and protect herself emotionally, rather than to really try and stop me?More like her defense mechanism doesn't work as intended and she must resort to something else.>I feel like I'd probably start making jabs at her about it, like "Aw, what happened to all that "I'll die for you" talk?", really rubbing salt in the wound as she fights.There's a chance that might only motivate her more to stop you, her love would never say something so harmful.
>>742677614No, I just mean like not having my soul inside me, since the few instances of soulless beings in UTDR we've gotten to see are usually pretty out of it in one way or another, like Flowey, Chara, and technically Kris.I think the soul works like an emotional regulator in UTDR, and without it, you're basically left like a Nobody from Kingdom Hearts, which also tended to not be the most stable people around either.Basically, what I'm saying is that I like the idea of being turned into a fucked up and evil version of myself and seeing my scrimblo loved ones try and deal with that.
>>742677090>The easiest fix is if my soul is still around somewhere, just not inside me at the moment, but otherwise I have no idea. (out of space)Does this mean that there's another (You) out there trying to go back to your body?Is this a new form of NTR if Reynault or Luzma chose to go with your souless body while your soul is trying to stop your evil vessel?
>>742675891>So, I lose my soul, and she either lays down, or tries to kill me, eh?>I suppose the latter could still count as being willing to kill "for" me, if she sees putting my soulless body down as "avenging me".What she does now is a mercy. Those childish hopes of saving anon, of somehow fixing what's been lost, must be put away. His continued existence only brings suffering, both to himself and those around him. Like a rabit animal, the greatest kindness he can be granted is a swift and painless death. Now anon please, do not struggle, it will be over soon.
>>742676203Bald
>>742677956>Like a rabit animalWhat do you have against bunnies?
>>742677793>But would they be as comically evil?Mm, depends on how you look at it.I think I'd probably try and kill Asgore, and take control of the underground for myself, turning it into my own vision of a model society, no matter how many people have to die in the process.>Just so you know I'm not Oldentale anonAh, okay.>but I'm pretty sure he did say at one point that she's the type of woman you have to stop from killing herself.Man, I'd hope not. Do you remember where he might've said that?>More like her defense mechanism doesn't work as intended and she must resort to something else.More like an offense mechanism at that point.>There's a chance that might only motivate her more to stop you, her love would never say something so harmful.Really letting such harmless banter get to her?My, she really must do a better job controlling herself.
>>742677931>Does this mean that there's another (You) out there trying to go back to your body?Probably not, unless it's just the soul floating around by itself.I'm not entertaining the rest of that.
>>742678161>I'm not entertaining the rest of that.afraid of a lil' self-NTR?
>>742677956>Now anon please, do not struggle, it will be over soon.Aw, giving up on me so easily, after everything we've been through?And here I thought what we had was special...
>>742672279Sucks that wildfire is MIA
>>742678203We've had enough of that lately, if you would kindly not continue this any further.
>>742677612It is exactly because it was "good but not great", just short of being amazing, that it gripped people's autism into wanting to expand/fix it
>>742676798big bug ballistics
>>742677090>I'll have an AMV showdown with her as she tries to turn me back to normal and stop my evil plans.Animal I Have Become (Majin Anon vs Luzma AMV)>Man, I knew she wasn't always in the best of spirits, but I didn't figure it was that bad for her. That discussion was specifically in the context of her if she survived the war and spent a few millennia underground. That would make her suicidally depressed. >So, she's fighting more to try and protect herself emotionally, rather than to really try and stop me?I think she'd be fighting because its what's best, even if she hates it. You have become a very great threat and can't be allowed to hurt others. She knows the good man you once were wouldn't want to exist as something like this.
it's time for someone to mod undertale yellow so everything is the same except clover is replaced by woody from toy story
>>742678252I think wildfire just made all sprites bigger to add more detail, I imagine if asgore does show up he would be much bigger too
>>742678107>I think I'd probably try and kill AsgoreAsgore already wants to die and he has killed children in the past, killing him isn't as evil as the other acts mentioned.>and take control of the underground for myself, turning it into my own vision of a model society, no matter how many people have to die in the process.Now you're starting to sound like a villain, but without someone like Undyne I doubt most monsters would try to stop you from archiving your utopia, whatever that might be.>Man, I'd hope not. Do you remember where he might've said that?I don't, it was months ago.>More like an offense mechanism at that point.Its still self defense, the thing triggering it must die.>Really letting such harmless banter get to her?Of course she would let it get to her, its a mockery of the person she once loved, just a soulless puppet trying to make her give up.>My, she really must do a better job controlling herself.She will have plenty of time to control herself once you're down.
>>742677670I see soulless Anon and Reynault becoming anime villains. Maybe one would betray the other late into the arc, but they'd work together for most of it. Hell, maybe you'd assume he'd betray you at some point, and decide to double cross him first. There could be this whole thing throughout the arc teasing and setting up him double crossing you, only you the same episode the audience thinks he's about to switch sides in.
>>742678390>Animal I Have Become (Majin Anon vs Luzma AMV)Ah yes, that song is a favorite of mine, works well here.>That discussion was specifically in the context of her if she survived the war and spent a few millennia underground. That would make her suicidally depressed. Okay, that's fair.I guess she'd still be living for something evidently, if she wouldn't actually have killed herself while in the underground, but it still sucks for her to be in such a state.Also, "if"? What a shame.>I think she'd be fighting because its what's best, even if she hates it. You have become a very great threat and can't be allowed to hurt others.Huh. Good philosophy of hers. Proud of her.Not that I'd let that stop me so easily, she'll have to put the effort in if she wants what's best.>She knows the good man you once were wouldn't want to exist as something like this.Well, barring this conversation anyway.Maybe this is just a really fucked up and dark version of "would you still love me if I was a worm?", and now Wiki's upset that this is something I think about in any kind of detail.
>>742678014Apologies, phone posting.
>>742678252>>742678447How tall would the protagonists be on Wildfire's artstyle?
>>742678207This is the part where the helmet goes on, she stops talking, and the boss fight starts.
surprised you niggas are trundling alongdunno at what point you stopped being a yellow g*neral and started being about all fangames, but it's always weird to see so much engagement with WIP projects which only exist in this ideal read: relating to ideas, not real stateundertale et al is not really a setting which can be """explored""", which is why yellow was indulgent fanfiction, in both good and bad waysif there's anything worth shamelessly stealing it must be bullet hell combat and concept of darkworlds, but at that point you might as well own up to being "fifty shades of gray"-tier remix with very little resemblance>t. dude who played yellow for no other reason than seeing your threads for quite a while, surely /v/ can't have *that* shit of a taste
>>742678515>but without someone like Undyne I doubt most monsters would try to stop you from archiving your utopia, whatever that might be.Mm, something something, "the perfect system", don't worry too hard about it.Lots of militarization, a focus on industrialization, bending the monster populace to my will until they're entirely obedient to my orders, preparations for war with the surface, etc.To some, I may even be a hero to the underground.>Its still self defense, the thing triggering it must die.Understandable.>Of course she would let it get to her, its a mockery of the person she once loved, just a soulless puppet trying to make her give up.Aw, now that's just hurtful. I had feelings once too, you know?>She will have plenty of time to control herself once you're down.If she thinks it'll be so easy, I'm not the one who's gone crazy.
>>742678759Phones make you hate rabbits?
>>742678447I want Asgore to be the same size so big bunny can be real.
>>742678934You know there's a joke there you could make about a Certain Someone who hates a Certain Somebunny
>>742678598Oh, I could totally see him betraying me eventually, if I threaten to ruin his fun at any point.It's a shame though, I really would enjoy being with him, however doomed any relationship between him and I may end up being.Still, have to have priorities, so I don't think he'd personally blame me if I turned against him, even if he'd still verbally berate me for doing so.
>>742678598*only you double cross him the same episode
>>742678925>but it's always weird to see so much engagement with WIP projects which only exist in this ideal read: relating to ideas, not real stateWe actually have two playable fangames right now, Deltarune Yellow which has two chapters worth of content and Undertale Naranja, which has a short demo showcasing the game mechanics and some charactershttps://rentry.org/mtt-fangames
>>742679008I don't know who you mean
>>742678859She can hide her face all she wants, but it'll never be enough to hide her feelings.Ooh, maybe there's a turning point in the fight when I damage her helmet enough to see her face clearly again, revealing that she's almost been actively crying silently the whole time.Wouldn't that be romantic, that she still feels so strongly even then?What a powerful bond we must've had, shame she just can't see things my way.
>>742678712>Well, barring this conversation anyway.Maybe this is just a really fucked up and dark version of "would you still love me if I was a worm?", and now Wiki's upset that this is something I think about in any kind of detail.The thought probably would upset her. She may even seriously ask if that's something that can happen to humans. Then maybe she'd cry remembering having to put down a rabid dog or a deer with CWD.
>>742678252I’m surprised that the combat demo only took a few months, while the full demo has taken another 2 years with no sign of development this year
>>742678926>Lots of militarization, a focus on industrialization, bending the monster populace to my will until they're entirely obedient to my orders, preparations for war with the surface, etc.Oh, so you're turning the Underground into a facist state? it does sound pretty bad, like the setting for a hard mode Undertale.>Aw, now that's just hurtful. I had feelings once too, you know?Had.>If she thinks it'll be so easy, I'm not the one who's gone crazy.I'm sure a boss monster can make short work of a soulless body, after all, determination comes from the soul.
>>742662621This will be Deltarune Yellow in 2027.
>>742679256>Then maybe she'd cry remembering having to put down a rabid dog or a deer with CWD.She's such a crybaby, I don't think she's could make for a good warrior even with the helmet on
>>742679256>The thought probably would upset her. She may even seriously ask if that's something that can happen to humans.Well, technically the answer is yes, but it only really happens in some very specific circumstances, so there's no need for her to worry, really....She'd only get more worried if I told her that, wouldn't she?Hah, poor, sweet goat.>Then maybe she'd cry remembering having to put down a rabid dog or a deer with CWD.Aw, hey, I promise she wouldn't have to put down anyone, if that'll make her feel better.
>>742679375wheres the kanako from this? I need to see how she looks
>>742679375How much do you want to bet that that Martlet is a self insert?
I've been hearing a lot about Deltarune Yellow, I lost what little faith I had in DR due to how shit chapter 5 was and I frankly have no hopes for chapter 6 and 7 (I'm also heavily suspecting Toby Fox will pull a chapter 8), and I also want to fucking kill Susie.Fill me on the basics of DRY, I'm really curious about wanting to try it out, I played Yellow, did neutral and pacifist and really loved the game, think it's way better than regular Undertale even if the pacifist ending is pants on head retarded.
>>742673127Don’t see what problem you have with Sadie, she looks fine (at least for any female drawn by Sig).My only problem with this image is how Gizmo’s head looks kind of small for his body, at least compared to other designs of him I’ve seen
>>742679409This pic is from 2024 where people cared less about Kanaclover, I couldn't find a Kanako
>>742678925>undertale et al is not really a setting which can be """explored""",What makes you say that? I think there's plenty of room for stories to tell and plenty of stuff to explore. We only see a small portion of the underground over the course of a single day. There's the rest of that cavern to explore, and an entire world outside of that, with a whole history and future to set it in. There's lots of cool stuff in the setting like the meta elements, determination, or the monsters. Sure I could make it legally distinct, but then it just ends up feeling like a cheap knockoff that wants to be Undertale, rather than being a new take on Undertale.
>>742679516I found the source and yeah there is no kanako but there is a clover
>>742679317>Oh, so you're turning the Underground into a facist state? it does sound pretty bad, like the setting for a hard mode Undertale.The underground needs to be able to stand on its own, no matter how rough the road is getting there. They will come to thank me, in the end.>Had.So the past means nothing to her?How cruel of her to say, I'm starting to question which one of us is without their soul.>I'm sure a boss monster can make short work of a soulless body, after all, determination comes from the soul.Flowey and Chara are without souls, and they certainly aren't pushovers.Determination *can* come from the soul, but the body's essence can live by itself if it has enough of its own determination, either naturally or artificially.
>>742678926>To some, I may even be a hero to the underground.I'm now imagining you as M Bison
>>742679506>Don’t see what problem you have with SadieShe's super hot too, is just that I prefer Melody for this one
>>742679570I was thinking of myself as more of a CLU kind of guy, but that'll do.
>>742679383She saves her tears for when she in the safety of her home, so.she often has quite a lot saved up.
>>742679496Local anon liked the two characters doomed by the narrative in uty and wanted to make a game starring them, giving further life to his favorite ship. it's not perfect but it's got SOVL.it's got 2 chapters of content out and is planned to only go on for 5 chapters.
>>742679496It's pretty much a fic about these 2 idiots but it has an actual plot going on too, already confirmed won't be as meta as DR is.Has 2 full chapters of content, somewhat derivative of DR but has its own twists, also the writing isn't as good but does the job.
>>742679375how many takes on martlet is this now that make her crippled. Why is it almost always her that's crippled in some way.
>>742679559I know this isn't the only DRY take where Clover is adopted by the Sunnysides. I know this design isn't gonna settle with anons here, but I think Clover being apart of Starlo's family is a really cool aspect of some DRY AUs
>>742679565>The underground needs to be able to stand on its own, no matter how rough the road is getting there. They will come to thank me, in the end.I mean, you could just grab Asgore's soul and take a few more human souls to cut the middleman, maybe give the souls to a monster you trust or be part of one of those 7 human souls.>So the past means nothing to her?It meant something when her lover was a person, this husk is nothing but a disgrace to the man she loved.>Flowey and Chara are without souls, and they certainly aren't pushovers.Flowey is a mutant and Chara is a literal demon, you're just a soon to be rotting corpse
>>742679375>Martlet>Dating Moray>Lesbian flagTHE CURSE! THE CURSE!
>>742679721The actual martlet bird from mythology has no legs, so many settings give her prostheticsIt is actually weird that she has legs in UTY
>>742679721Because the actual "Martlet" was a mythical bird without legs iirc
>>742679646Nah, she cries all the time, to the point the other rangers no longer give her tears any value, one time she saw a fly die and she cried for an entire week.
>>742662621>materia collective issuing a copystrike against the team as if they themselves wouldn't get sent straight to prison if Toby didn't speak Japanese
>>742679828It only happened because they tried to put their music on spotifyI think they won't touch other fan creations as long as they don't try to monetize their songs using the UT/DR name
>>742679787she's also not actually a mythical bird and just has the "continuous effort" that the martlet represents, as a part of her character, so it's not weird at all. I prefer my chicken with legs -> on.>>742679791yeah that's what the heraldry represented but I still think it's goofy to actually lop her legs off.
>>742679863Eh that's fair
>>742679791Samefag, but I find the implication that Ceroba and Chujin could divorce more cursed because the creator of this image said that Starlo could be in a situationship with Ceroba. I am relieved none of the more mainstream DRY takes don't apply the dumb Toriel-Asgore-Sans shit to Ceroba-Chujin-Starlo
>>742679650>>742679715I see, thanks anons.>Won't be as metaI see that as something for the best honestly, the meta narrative stuff with Undertale and Deltarune is something I've never been very fond of and it's progressively gotten worse in many ways.Also while not a furfag myself, I do find fox girls really cute, and seeing Clover get a happy ending of sorts is nice.
>>742679650Has DRY1 anon posted anything about chapter 3? I don’t know how he plans to wrap this up in 5 chapters, especially when nothing like the roaring or prophecy has appeared in-game yet.And if he is working on it, how far along is he? It’s been 4 months since the last release, but then again the first public build was only in 2025 when it was completed as far back as 2024.
>>742679752>I mean, you could just grab Asgore's soul and take a few more human souls to cut the middleman, maybe give the souls to a monster you trust or be part of one of those 7 human souls.Yes, but the underground needs to be stronger on a societal level as well, not just having one strong monster with human souls.>It meant something when her lover was a person, this husk is nothing but a disgrace to the man she loved.Huh, touch a nerve of hers?>Flowey is a mutant and Chara is a literal demon, you're just a soon to be rotting corpseGeez, talk about a bad breakup.Oh well, at least she's giving me one last dance.
>>742679937Why don't we get something fresh, like Chujin divorcing Ceroba so he can be with Starlo?
hey, de/ss/ophiles, have thishttps://files.catbox.moe/117udi.png
>>742680045This, and while you're at it make make Ceroba marry Martlet
>>742680083No, obviously Ceroba should be with Toriel, on account of all the chemistry they have.
>>742679496>I also want to fucking kill Susie.Same>Fill me on the basics of DRY,The most basic premise is Deltarune but with Kanaclover, and it delivers on that. The writing is noticably different from Deltarune and UTY. Its not offensively bad or anything, just kind of bland. Its got good romance (absolutely mollywhomps Deltarune in that regard.), but its lacking in jokes and drama. Its got the latter two, but it rarely made me laugh and basically only managed to hook me with the suspense once. The gameplay is harder, but I didn't find it as fun (I notoriously do not play these games for the gameplay though so your milage may vary) and the puzzles are way harder than the ones in UT, DR, and UTY. Its pretty short. I'd recommend you just check it out and decide for yourself if its good.
>>742679989>Has DRY1 anon posted anything about chapter 3?yeah he posts pretty actively in the threads, and takes input from the threads occasionally.>especially when nothing like the roaring or prophecy has appeared in-game yet.don't quote me here but I don't think it's going to. based on what we already know, and what we learn from the secret boss of chapter 2 seems like it's going to heavily deal with a promise Cole made during something that took place well before the events of the game, alongside dealing with "the outlaw." .>And if he is working on it, how far along is he? He gave an update on that recently but my heads a bit fuzzy and I can't remember what he said. he's pretty consistent about telling everyone about how far along he is though.
>>742680171Put them all in a love triangle, we need more wholesome yuri!
>>742679715I think "not as good" is a bit too broad. DRY's highs aren't as high, but its lows aren't nearly as low either.
>>742680228This relationship is going to have a high mortality rate.
>>742680210I feel that if he’s browsing this thread he could post a screenshot a webm of chapter 3 like he used to, also since the image limit was reached in /vrpg/.Now that I think about it, we haven’t gotten one of those webms since like May 2024.
>>742679559At first I was gonna call him fat, but apparently he's meant to be a small child, in which case they made his head too small.
>>742680382>we haven’t gotten one of those webms since like May 2024.you must have simply missed all of the times he's posted them. He posted a webm not too long ago of testing out having more people in the parties I don't remember if I saved it on this computer or not but there have been a ton of webms like that posted over the last 2 years.
Seeing [picrel] on the front page of esix's results for UTY is going to make me have an aneurysm.
>>742679124>unfinished fangame for an unfinished game paralleling a finished fangame>short demothat is indeed more than mere forum posts (that is to say: fucking nothing) but i am long checked out of ongoing nonprofessional internet projectsbetween being burned one too many times and general preference for short and sweet stories, it's not worth getting investedas a matter of fact, have a prediction: you will see a brand new original fangame come out of nowhere before you will see any of these currently established concepts fully realized>>742679521speaking of short and sweet stories>We only see a small portionwe only see everything we need toall the fallen children, the metaphysical nature of determination, structures of monster and human societies — it does not truly matter in the scope of the originaland so elaborating on such elements, which are better left as empty space, is not anymore sensible than trying to make a redline fanfilm with a dramatic multilayered plot, rather than a simple vehicle for coolass animationbut if you truly intend to expand on undertale in a thematically appropriate way, you need to find a brand new narrative and mechanical angle to things that matterred therethe most obvious way is to ditch established fight and mercy logic in service of a thesis statement that would actually play on biggest fanboys' heartstringseverhood was a pretty stupid take on "what if killing everyone is AKCHUALLY the good route", but maybe you can find something else
>>742680485impressively detailed textures for... that.
>>742680531Yeah, it's like they went straight to learning lighting and texturing, and exactly nothing else, ever.
>>742680382>>742680210>>742679989I'm around, sorry for not sharing any screens yet, I'm still working on the first light world part of chapter 3, so there isn't much to show yetalso still waiting for spriters resource to upload the DR ch 5 tilesets so I can use them in the dark world>>742680474I'm sure I shared a few webms of enemies in ch 2 when I made those, also the big party one is outdated but I'll be reworking that soon
>>742680474That was probably DRY2 anon, although DRY1 anon has posted party testing in the past but that was likely before the first release.What I’m really looking for is a chapter 3 webm, if he has footage of it at all.
>>742680045>Chujin divorcing Ceroba so he can be with StarloUnironically based. Why don't people support this more? Chujin and Starlo would be much happier, and it would eliminate all the competition for Ceroba, who would end up with a human male as a result
>>742680485SculptGL Roba
>>742679496>>742679984Very grounded take on the Undertale Yellow cast in a Deltarune setting with a unique town. There are some things it actually improves on over DR, like an overworld talk option and actual running animations. The dark worlds, enemies, and puzzles are creatively designed despite the limited amount of development resources. There's emphasis on Kanacole but most characters from UTY are fleshed out, so if you love any of them this will have high points. I know people say the writing isn't stellar, but the characters feel real and consistent which is the main important thing. The game has an alt route (original concept, not the weird route) and a hard mode, which gives a good amount of replayability.The only grievances I have are that Cole is right-handed when Clover is left-handed in UTY, and the sheer number of typos. I'm playing through the alt route now and when I'm done I'll write a full review plus a list of typos.>>742679650Love this art from the alt route.>>742679989He keeps his cards close to his chest, which protects against spoilers, but there's enough of a homegrown fanbase that he can get feedback and ideas regularly without having to directly elicit it.>>742680523>as a matter of fact, have a prediction: you will see a brand new original fangame come out of nowhere before you will see any of these currently established concepts fully realizedIf you are so dismissive it's your loss. Nobody could've predicted two full chapters coming out at such a pace from here. You are the definition of jaded.
>>742680663no, dry1 anon posts all the time. he even posted right above you. While dry2 anon plans to have a bigger party than dry1, dry1 posted what I described recently.>>742680586>I'm sure I shared a few webms of enemies in ch 2 when I made thoseyeah I remember you doing a lot of those, as well as when the cable cat enemy was being worked on.
>>742680702That image was apparently a commission.As in, somebody paid money, in exchange for that.And the artist is now proudly displaying it on esix, along with all their other works, including stalker proportioned transmasc Ceroba.
>>742680523>all the fallen children, the metaphysical nature of determination, structures of monster and human societies — it does not truly matter in the scope of the originalthat doesn't mean it's not worth exploring. It doesn't need to be explored *in the original* but that has no bearing on the value of doing something outside of that.>and so elaborating on such elements, which are better left as empty space, is not anymore sensible than trying to make a redline fanfilm with a dramatic multilayered plot, rather than a simple vehicle for coolass animationFeels like an arbitrary line drawn in the sand.>you need to find a brand new narrative and mechanical angle to things that matterred theredoing so is good but is not a requirement for a story itself being worth exploring. A story does not need to "challenge the first book" or rise to its level to deserve to exist. That's not how story telling works, or why it exists. People should make effort to tell a good story, but just attempting to tell a story and explore ideas has value on its own.
>>742680195Honestly I'll take consistent blandness over more NTR and y/u/rishit humiliation rituals any day.One of the biggest issues I've had with Deltarune outside of Toby's dogshit fetishes is the sheer inconsistencies with the writing, the plot, the stakes and the characters a lot of the time.I also really wished we got to have more party members depending on what route or actions we took, Berdly would be a really fun party member and I'd much rather have him on board than either Susie or Ralsei, hell even Noelle when Susie is not around is such a fun an interesting character and she has incredibly cute interactions with Kris, but people like me are "gross" for wanting to be with cute crazy deer girl instead of bending over like a cuck and accepting the horrible fucking dogshit no good dyke "romance" Trick Tony wrote.I find it hilarious we can't even date Berdly as a joke, because you WILL submit yourself to the NTR humiliation ritual and you WILL like it.Unhinged rant aside, I'll definitely try it out.>>742680709I see, noted.As said previously, I much rather prefer consistency even if it is rather bland.I'm pretty forgiving with small mistakes like typos and small animation mistakes, so I don't think I'll have issues with it.
>>742680523>as a matter of fact, have a prediction: you will see a brand new original fangame come out of nowhere before you will see any of these currently established concepts fully realizedWell, you're wrong, lol, Deltarune Yellow unironically has way more progress than any other fangame announced after UTY's release, and Naranja is somehow one of the few orange soul takes still standing, making an Undertale/Deltarune fangame is much harder than making a fangame for something like Lisa, there's a lot of coding involved.Besides DRY and Naranja are just two of the fangames in development here, we have others like Oldentale and Geltarune.>we only see everything we need toThe anniversary stream proves that even Toby thinks the Underground still has a lot of potential left.
>>742680926>inconsistencies with the writing, the plot, the stakes and the characters a lot of the time.It really does seem like he's just writing it on the fly, despite the massive cope that he's "planned it all out." Deltarune is really inconsistent.
>>742681285Maybe he did have it all planned, in the form of an outline, which isn't that much in the gran scheme of things
>>742678252Luna's mom paws
>>742681384>>742681285that's pretty much how I'm doing my stuff
>>742680523>as a matter of fact, have a prediction: you will see a brand new original fangame come out of nowhere before you will see any of these currently established concepts fully realizedThat's already happened multiple times. DRY was the first, and everything else came after. Still, its two chapters deep into a 5 chapter game. That's a sizable chunk of it done. >it does not truly matter in the scope of the originalI don't think it needs to. Sometimes people just want another Undertale story, just something in that world with those kinds of characters in those kinds of scenarios. Like all the Star Wars books, none of them need to exist, Star Wars does everything it set out to do in the main six movies, but they're a fun read nonetheless. >but if you truly intend to expand on undertale in a thematically appropriate way, you need to find a brand new narrative and mechanical angle to things that matterred thereI think if you do want to specifically follow up on the thematic and meta-narrative aspects of Undertale, its absolutely doable. Undertale as a setting is an excellent vehicle to make commentary on video games as a medium. It isn't exclusively limited to talking about suspension of disbelief vs completionism and the inherent amorality of the player. It can talk about other things. A bit like how Bioshock 2 used the city of Rapture to examine other philosophies aside from Objectivism. Off the top of my head (since I'm thinking about Bioshock 2) you could make a fangame that's a commenary on unnecessary sequels that exist purely to wring more gameplay out of an already finished narrative. Or you could make one that's a direct counter to Undertale's thesis, pointing out all the holes in its arguments. I have others as well, but I'm not sharing them because I actually intend to write something with them.
>>742681469isn't that how most indie devs do it?
>>742680523As for the spare vs kill mechanic. That is something of a white elephant in any prospective fangame that's trying to do a lot with the meta-narrative side of things, but I think its workable. For one, you can just play it straight like UTY did. UTY told a compelling story by doing so from the perspective of someone who actually lives in the world and has to deal with those mechanics as facts of life, rather than an omnipotent time god from outside of space and time. Or as I mentioned earlier, it could tie into a direct critique of Undertale's core theming. Or it could be expanded on. There's a lot of moral and philosophical questions that just get handwaved away for the sake of exploring that one central question in Undertale. Like we never even think of how Frisk feels about all this when Sans is telling us we should've spared more monsters.
I have nearly finished the lineart for my Wiki drawing, but I've gotta put it down for a sec to hang with the boys for a bit, so hopefully this thread will not fucking evaporate before I can come back and finish this off.Try and keep things afloat for me, would you kindly?
>>742680846I wonder if they specifically asked for Roba's head to be shaped like a ball.
>>742681984Apparently the idea was to make it look like a HOI4 portrait, but with Ceroba.
>>742680846Maybe the commissioner is into abstract art
>>742681285There's a mountain of evidence to suggest Toby has been watering down or completely screwing over the plot of Deltarune to try and be subversive and appeal to normies, a bunch of shit we know he had planed many years in advance went nowhere or was completely changed, Queen for instance was entirely different in her original concept and even her theme reflected the fact she seemed much more sinister.There was a massive and sudden change in tone from chapter 1 to chapter 2, Susie changed way too much way too fast as a character, similar story with Ralsei to a lesser degree.It feels like Toby decided he'd much rather just go with the same quirky shit he did in Undertale, which felt really dumb given how the plot of chapter 1 seemed to mock many of the things Undertale stood for.This has been a huge issue in almost every chapter release so far, way too many things are walked back or changed next chapter, hell, in the WR's case, Noelle's deflowering was almost immediately changed because Toby would rather appease to social media than have artistic integrity and stick to his vision.I also think he completely rewrote the Knight at some point, it was painfully obvious the Knight was meant to be either Dess, Carol or Rudy (I find the Kriselle Knight theory interesting but I don't buy into it too much yet), and he's so obsessed with being subversive that he's desperately trying to come up with a le heckin ebin mystery for the Knight reveal, even if it derails literally everything.At this point it doesn't matter who the Knight is if we don't know what's the Knight's goal.
>>742680926Fucking same on all counts. Kind of a funny side tangent, but the fangame I'm working on (not DRY) started because I wished I could play as Berdly instead of Kris. I will say though that while I take issue with all those things, I absolutely do need the humor and jokes DR has to be able to enjoy the gameplay. I played DRY on release and ended up having a really bad time because the humor which is usually there to make me tolerate the gameplay I don't care for wasn't there. That's a matter of personal taste though. Everyone else here who played it seems to like it.
>>742681838>but I've gotta put it down for a sec to hang with the boys for a bit, >would you kindly?What, are you gonna go firebomb Ryan Industries?
>>742682468Right, sorry, been playing through Bioshock again recently, had that voice of his on my mind.
>>742682313>but the fangame I'm working on (not DRY) started because I wished I could play as Berdly instead of Kris.NTA, Kris is one of the most interesting protagonists in all of gaming, I can't wrap my head around the idea of not wanting to play as him.Deltarune wouldn't be the same without his scheming ass working against us.
i guess i simply have way too purpose-centric view on fiction and stories compared to you lotthere's way too much shit in the current year, light novels with a gorillion volumes that go nowhere are so blasé they don't even work as a punchline>>742680862>a story itself being worth exploring>arbitrary line drawn in the sandfiction is nothing but lines in the sand making elaborate patterns, and if you put none yourself then your concept will simply becoming too amorphous to hold shape and diffuse into the beachthat was a very pretentious way to describe indulgent fanfiction, retreading the same paths, doing nothing but satisfying the obsessives who simply want to devour everything featuring the characters they lovewhich may be something you want to do, but that is not an "exploration" but its exact opposite, it's returning back to the comfy familiar spot where everything is as it should be>>742681542>Like all the Star Wars booksis star wars' trajectory really something you want to follow? do you want the titanic weight of endless tertiary material to recontextualize the original thing into total unrecognizability? that's how you get kreia btw>vehicle to make commentary on video games as a mediumyeah that's something you can work with, my point is that there must be SOMETHING of unique value that straddles between being exactly the same to the point of total pointlessness and being so different as to basically exploit the name recognition
>>742681812To me the main issue with spare vs. kill is that Undertale players will spare absolutely everything and any other path gets treated as an afterthought. Some will just do the pacifist route; others pacifist then genocide, and truly OCD players will try out different neutral routes. As far as I can tell this was not necessarily the intention for Undertale; you were expected to kill Toriel the first time playing, if nobody else, and figure out the big twist at the end. Now that everyone knows the twist it loses its punch and pacifism is treated as the default. There are two ways to fix it: first, you can subvert this message as some anons have suggested, by having some monsters that need to die to achieve the best possible ending. Second, you can play it straight but have pacifism be genuinely difficult or unintuitive so most players won't get it the first time, and it's a genuine challenge to pursue this path.>>742682031But why? Why would you do that?>>742682313I love humor but it's one of those things that takes both talent and practice. I've gotten laughs out of people both irl and in my writings, but it's not something I can consistently pull off and it can be a real challenge to write something really funny. DRY does have some good jokes at points, even if most of those are "sensible chuckle" tier. I find that it pulls off romantic/sexual humor fairly well at points, being suggestive and exploiting embarrassment while not being overly raunchy or gross. I would like more comedy in it, but the only way to achieve that is to see a lot of comedic material and shamelessly steal either bits or technique. Depending on your internal thoughts, you might be better geared toward writing comedy, romance, horror, etc. Mastering multiple tones is hard.
>>742682626From a writer's perspective, I agree he's a very interesting character. (or at least he was before he just decided to become Toby's favorite blueballing implement. His schtick got really old in chapter 5). But from a Watsonian perspective, I hate him and want to kill him. I laughed when Sans fucked his mom. Was funny watching that little shit suffer. Anyways I was just thinking about how great it would be to have a player character who didn't fight me at every turn, and who appreciated me. And I thought Berdly would be a perfect fit. He's got an ego that's really easy to work, and being the dumbass that he is and such a gamer, he would jump at the prospect of being the rpg protagonist, without ever stopping to think about the existential horror underlying the concept.
>>742681285>Deltarune is really inconsistent.I swear that each chapter feels like a different game. Even beyond the character acting or the dated memes (2018 is an alternate dimension compared to 2026), something mechanically feels ever so slightly off and the visuals change.
>>742682129>Noelle's defloweringkris was the raped in that scene
>>742682817>do you want the titanic weight of endless tertiary material to recontextualize the original thing into total unrecognizability? I'm free to ignore any of it that I don't like, just like with the Star Wars books. >that's how you get kreia btwKreia is cool though. And so is KOTOR 2. Sure its very different spiritually from the movies, but its got a lot to say in response to them, makes some good points, and is a compelling story in its own right. And here's the part where I say that my game is basically KOTOR to Undertale, being a prequel set in ancient history so I can do all kinds of wacky stuff in the setting with new characters and locations while exploring new themes and reexamining old ones. >my point is that there must be SOMETHING of unique value The unique value doesn't have to be thematic though. Even just a compelling narrative is unique value enough. Like UTY. Its not doing anything crazy thematically, but it tells a good story with strong characters, and that gives it merit.
>>742683018>I hate him and want to kill him. I laughed when Sans fucked his mom. Was funny watching that little shit suffer.I don't think Kris's acts are evil enough for him to deserve suffering, but only because we don't even know what's the end goal of his master plan, if he truly is trying to end the world, yeah he's a total prick.>Anyways I was just thinking about how great it would be to have a player character who didn't fight me at every turn, and who appreciated me. But that's exactly what makes Kris such a good MC, I always liked when in a game the player is sort of a secondary character compared to some other character in the plot (Like Martin in Oblivion) I also like how Kris explores the relationship between the player and the avatar we control, I can't blame Kris for hating (You), if I were in his position I too would try to get rid of the outer entity controlling my actions.>And I thought Berdly would be a perfect fit.I get your points and he would certainly make for a funny and unique protagonist, but I still prefer Kris over him.
>>742683258(You) used Kris to Rape Noelle until she liked it, that was a double rape for the price of one
>>742682817>fiction is nothing but lines in the sand making elaborate patterns, and if you put none yourself then your concept will simply becoming too amorphous to hold shape and diffuse into the beach *everything* will diffuse into the beach, its only a matter of when.>which may be something you want to do, but that is not an "exploration" but its exact opposite, it's returning back to the comfy familiar spot where everything is as it should be It is still an exploration, it is asking questions that maybe someone else knows the answer to, but going on the journey and finding out the answer yourself. You are exploring ideas so that you yourself understand them better. Its purpose is thinking for your own sake instead of something lofty. "What would these characters do, how would they think act or even feel?" This develops something in you as you create it, thats greater than the creation itself. Its why "fanfiction" has existed since the dawn of man. Our brains like inventing scenarios because its a problem solving engine, and engaging with something like that can make it better at what it is. Its good to attempt to explore something completely brand new, but that doesn't detract from this more self indulgent pursuit, and both can exist in the same person.
>>742682834>you were expected to kill Toriel the first time playingI don't think so. The opening section serves as a tutorial for pacifism as a concept. It practically beats you over the head with it and Toriel is the test and serves as the final lesson for those who fail. She ensures that the player will at least learn why and how they should do pacifism, even if they still decide not to. Either through her tutorials, or through dying at half health. The game includes unique dialogue both for sparing her the first time and for killing her and reloading, so both are expected. >There are two ways to fix it:I would say you should make spare vs kill an intentional red herring. People will come into the game knowing Undertale and will try to play by its rules, so they'll be perfectly set up to be caught completely off guard by a moral conflict that isn't about spare vs kill, even if it sometimes interacts with it.
>>742683205>I swear that each chapter feels like a different game.Well technically...
>>742683205They basically are different games. Each one is the length of Undertale, the team is radically different each time, and they release years apart.
>>742682313I definitely understand wanting to play as a more flashed out character instead of a retarded loser like Kris.And fair on the humor, I've gotten some tired of Deltarune's brand of quirky humor, since I feel it's degenerated a lot ever since chapters 3 and 4 came out, but I definitely understand the appeal.>>742683258>We thought (You) used Kris to rape Noelle>As it turns out she got really scaroused and fucked Kris silly until he could barely walk>Noelle saying "You can't even say "stop" like you used to" implies she has quite the taste for BHC and has done some really fucked up (heh) things to Kris in the pastGoddamn dude, there's just something about crazy Noelle that does things to me.
This is an issue online again so I will explain my story again: I quit the opportunity to work on Homestuck and Undertale because they required giving up my Catholic and conservative beliefs. I spent 8 years alone as a result, literally dreaming of revenge, including making a webcomic in the end times about those responsible going to Hell or Purgatory, including my former best friend who secured me the opportunity in the first place.I am now making that webcomic. I have also become the number one genius in the world at eviscerating lgbtq ideologies. I threaten the animation community (also responsible for popularizing lgbtq) with harder hitting truth bombs if they do not yield to my demands, so they yield. I have many many secrets I have yet to even say about the evils of lgbtq.And so know well: when you support Kris and Frisk as seriously “nonbinary,” or enable that hateful delusion, you are on a collision course with a path of vengeance that will be a legendary eschatological event. you are placing yourself on a train to pain more excruciating than I felt in those 8 years.Oh by the way I did like it when people thought I was a girl… just for fun :) but I haven’t had real fun since 2012.
I thought the schizo would never show up again, its been a while
btw don't reply to lovecraft's cat, that's a known schizo that keeps repeating the same thing every time (why not do that in the DR threads instead of here)
>>742684086Why would I ever give up the ability to textually rape?
>>742683461>I don't think Kris's acts are evil enough for him to deserve suffering, This isn't about good and evil, this is a personal grudge. He's continually fucked me, personally, over, so I want to shove his hand in a garbage disposal. >I always liked when in a game the player is sort of a secondary character And Berdly still would be. It'd just be a different dynamic. Instead of the edgy little emo who hates you and got possessed on purpose so he can use you for his own purposes, its this lovable little retard who's too high on protagonism to realize he's being possessed and is completely at your mercy. Instead of Kris being the tard wrangler trying to convince or force you to cooperate, you're the tard wrangler trying to bullshit Berdly into doing all the things the game doesn't want you to do. >but I still prefer Kris over him.Eh, I'm tired of him. I think Deltarune as a whole shouldn't be as long as it is. Its overstayed its welcome.
>>742683872>I definitely understand wanting to play as a more flashed out character instead of a retarded loser like Kris.Kris is plenty fleshed out. I just wanted a player character who isn't an asshole towards me. >since I feel it's degenerated a lot ever since chapters 3 and 4 came out, but I definitely understand the appeal.I liked chapter 3 and 4's humor, but chapter 5 feels like a skinwalker a lot of the time.
>>742682129Dude Ralsei after chapter 1 is a completely different character than where his arc was left off in 1. Like, completely different. They nearly pulled in back in 5 until he heals Flowery alongside Susie, says some shit about beating him "his own way" when naturally the whole fucking chapter had been building to him feeling more comfortable with using violence, he even gets a fire spell. Fucking why Toby. Did he forget what happens to blind pacifists who help indiscriminately? Because I didn't. You get Spade King'd in the Pipis hole
>>742684459it really does feel toby changed his mind on the whole "not everything can be resolved with peace" from ch 1even the secret bosses no longer give unique equipment depending on how you beat them, you can't even defeat them in different ways anymoreand let's not mention the recruit system
>>742684121>This isn't about good and evil, this is a personal grudge. He's continually fucked me, personally, over, so I want to shove his hand in a garbage disposal.Sounds like something too personal to me, every time Kris goes against my orders or takes the soul out of his body I'm amused, I want to see what the next steps in his master plan will be, I do hope to get my vessel back, either to help him, or to kick his ass and ruin whatever he's setting up.>And Berdly still would be.Sounds funny, but it isn't half as cool as what we got with Kris, I still prefer the ambiguously evil retard.>Eh, I'm tired of him. I think Deltarune as a whole shouldn't be as long as it is. Its overstayed its welcome.It is way too fucking long for a game that's meant to be replayed, but Kris is one of the few reason I'm sticking with Deltarune till the end.
>>742684574>it really does feel toby changed his mind on the whole "not everything can be resolved with peace" from ch 1Toby did give us the titan fight, which is a mandatory kill, but then he went way too hard on the opposite direction with chapter 5
Really feels like there’s been a drought in fangames lately, and discussion in these threads has gone nowhere.I wonder if this coincides with the release of new Deltarune chapters. There seemed to be multiple fangames getting updates before chapters 3 and 4, and then suddenly after the number of updates was cut in half.
>>742684693There was that one update on DR broken destiny and a small one on one of the orange projects, but yeah it's been pretty deadAlso I guess people are waiting for the UTF doc
>>742684121I entirely agree it's kinda hard to feel any pity for Kris even if I do think he doesn't deserve most of the shit he went through, something that I genuinely despise is how for Kris the game nonstop hammers the message into your head that "Your choices don't matter".Meanwhile on Susie's end the game goes out of it's way to suck her up and say "write your own fate and ending!', and while some might cope and say that Susie's hubris and such will catch up to her and it's part of the prophecy and whatever, I have 0 hope for Toby going with this angle, it's like anons forgot Undyne and Alphys and how the exact same shit is repeating itself, Toby is an NTR cuck and a y/u/ri faggot, there's no way he won't play Suselle straight (heh).Susie is gonna take over as protagonist at some point, I guarantee this is gonna be the case.>>742684348I liked chapter 3 at first because I was a bit sick when I played, but on a repeat playthrough I fucking hated it, mainly due to the minigames but still, Tenna feels like a discount Spamton in many ways and chapter 3's brand of humor just feels weaker.Chapter 5 truly does feel like it wasn't even written by Toby, Weird Route was kino and definitely feels like Toby's writing, but normal route just feels incredibly off most of the time.It's hard to explain, but it just feels wrong.>>742684459In retrospect you're right, I hate how Ralsei using fire spells and possibly even Fireshock has been hinted at for ages and then we just get a small little moment of it and nothing else, shit was so fucking lame.I really wished Ralsei got a moment akin to what Susie had in chapter 4 to help build up his new spell, worse yet, Ralsei could've had so many interactions with another extremely shafted character in chapter 5 in Asgore, but nothing came of it.
>>742684693are you talking about fangames in general, or just the fangames in here?Keep in mind that last year, fangame development around here stopped for weeks after chapter 3+4 released
>>742684693Devs, Musicians, and Artists are moving on to do their own things. Sooner or later, they’ll consume the rest of Toby’s disillusioned fanbase.
>>742684459>How is it Ralsei's way that when he's deliberately not using his real stats and spells and choosing to be a healerAnon are you serious?
>>742684641>Sounds like something too personal to meI get very into games when I play them, that's how I have my fun. I suspend my disbelief and pretend like all this is really happening to me. >every time Kris goes against my orders or takes the soul out of his body I'm amused, I want to see what the next steps in his master plan will beI don't really care about his master plan beyond how it gets in the way of my plans. Basically every time he intervenes or does something, its at the express expense of something I wanted to do. >or to kick his ass and ruin whatever he's setting up.I want to ruin it solely to get one over on him.
>>742684837Roba vs Anser
>>742684574Everything down to their mechanics reinforces the oppressive attitude Ralsei was created to *mock*>spamton if beaten is alive and sapient just chilling in your pocket (except the weird route of course in which case you don't even get anything from the man who made it possible somehow)>eram fight is within the confines of a game and doesn't die>knight is a scripted loss and is so powerful the fans legit aren't sure if its health bar is real or not (also doesn't talk, so essentially it's a titan/non-sentient being)>gerson requires a haircut. That's it. >mew mew. Fucking Mew Mew. Toby's big fat pink and yellow fuck you to anyone who expected the sequel to Undertale to be telling a more mature story.Cool totally lore relevant secret bosses Toby. Kris literally screaming after fighting Spamton and growing pale at battling Eram really seem super duper serious compared to an unfunny trans anime cat girl, the main antagonist and a dead turtle who says the funny meme and does le epic dual buster against the non-sentient darkness being that you don't worry about having to hurt cause it's not sentient (even though he should really have just not reappeared after the second sanctuary fight with the sound of silence. Also should have been a hammer-turtle amalgam of metal and flesh and not a suit of fucking armor TOBY YOU HAVE NO BALLS NONE NATTA
>>742684693There were plenty of updates last year. CWK, UT Blue, like three Mantle fangames, two Snowgrave VNs, multiple proper snowgrave fangames being announced or even releasing, Kaizo Knight
>>742683435>Sure its very different spiritually from the movies, but its got a lot to say in response to themme point is that kreia only makes sense in a world of countless wars-in-the-stars, where every 30 years a bad man with a red laser sword does a big conquering, a world of endless repeatsyou saying it's a "response to the movies" only vindicates that, your life has been so suffused with star wars (whether you ignored them or not) that it's effectively impossible to consider the original story in its own contextand i don't think it's good, not when you are allegedly invested in that original story>The unique value doesn't have to be thematic thoughbut it sure would elevate the work, almost like it would work as an iteration of ideas established prior or some shit>>742683678>dude all hypothetical scenarios are like fanfiction of real life>it is the act of thinking which is noble by itselfin which case you have no reason to commit your ideas to paper (or equivalent) and share them around, while i have neither ability to see nor opinions about what goes on inside your headbut you want to make the ideal real, no? and that means contending with clunky words and ugly illustrations that fail to give form to lofty thoughts, it is these struggles that you seemingly title "exploration"but i think only of results, and the "exploration" in the context of the resulting narrative, what all the literary conventions and audience expectations and whatnotimagining what would certain characters think about waffle fries may be technically new and perfectly coherent characterization, but slice-of-life vignettes are really not the thing to strive for
>>742684743>I liked chapter 3 at first because I was a bit sick when I played, but on a repeat playthrough I fucking hated it,I love chapter 3. I think its hilarious while also having the right amount of serious moments. Chapter 4 is the one I don't care for. Or at least it was until chapter 5 came out and made it look amazing by comparison. >Tenna feels like a discount SpamtonReally Spamton is a knockoff Tenna. The similarity is on purpose since Spamton stole Tenna's entire flow (or attempted and failed to). I think there's enough difference to distinguish them though. I love Tenna. Think he's the best character in the game. >Weird Route was kino and definitely feels like Toby's writing,Chapter 5's weird route felt off to me too. Like it was a fanfic of the weird route. It hammed things up too hard, and completely sanitized away the abusive romance imagery from previous chapters alongside removing the freedom chasing, which was the whole point of the route. >AsgoreHoly shit, the only man more cucked than Kris. He even got cucked out of his own chapter.
>>742680050Kress
>>742684837You sure about that?
>>742685064>two Snowgrave VNsThere are UT/DR VNs?
>Faggots from the deltarune thread desperately trying to turn the thread discussing fan games into more of their circlejerk where they pretend they have control over the popularity of Deltarune and are making people not like it
>>742685632>from the deltarune thread>came here because I couldn't find a Deltarune thread I think Deltarune fans make people hate the thing well enough on their own ;3 either way LINK THE DELTARUNE THREAD FAGGOT
>>742685741Sorry "Deltarune" thread, in quotes, because the thread is ostensibly not about Deltarune itself and instead the mental illness of people unwilling to accept their lack of control over the situations they find themselves in
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>>742685197>your life has been so suffused with star wars (whether you ignored them or not) that it's effectively impossible to consider the original story in its own contextEven the movies heavily imply the cyclical nature of the conflict. That battle between the Sith and Jedi has been going on for a long time, and it only ends once the chosen one shows up and brings balance to the force. And even then things are basically set back to how they were at the start of the Republic, so it leaves the door open for history to repeat. George Lucas talked about this in interviews. You know the quote about "history is like poetry, it rhymes". Kreia works as a critique of the movies just as she does a critique of the endless EU. Don't forget that endless war isn't the only topic she discusses either. She does just as much to shit talk both the Sith and the Jedi's philosophies, and the force itself. And while the codes and creeds of those didn't exist in the films, the underlying philosophies were still plainly apparent through their words and actions. >but it sure would elevate the work, Absolutely, but its not required. >but slice-of-life vignettes are really not the thing to strive forNta but first of all, there's nothing wrong with slice of life stories. There's multiple genres of literature comprised almost entirely of it. Slice of life stories can teach lessons just as well as fantasy epics. And even when they don't, the entertainment is value enough. Second of all, character focused fanfiction isn't necessarily slice of life. Maybe someone wants to write what the characters do after the story, or what they did before, or maybe how things could have gone differently.
>>742685545Yeah, there were two Snowgrave focused ones based on what they thought the festival would be like. (Which were way better than the festival we got btw).
Since I've derailed the thread on accident, might as well try to get things back on topic, did anyone play TS Underswap? I was recommended that one for a while, it's been on my backlong, but I haven't touched it yet.Also I work on sprite art on occasion, is it hard to make edits of Deltarune's sprites or to introduce custom ones into the game?>>742685380I like some stuff in chapter 3, some of the lore building, Ramb and hell, I don't hate Tenna outright, I like him, but he feels a bit too 1 note, I much prefer Spamton due to him being a massive schizo who's still relevant in the story because so much of what he said foretold future events.>Chapter 4Not a big fan of it either, I really was never Susie's biggest fan, even before chapter 5, and Gerson in spite of being an amazing character gets ruined by the end of the chapter because Toby is a coward that couldn't let the poor turtle stay dead.>Chapter 5's weird routeI can definitely understand the angle that it feels like Toby was giving a fat middle finger to the player and some details don't align perfectly with what was prophecized to happen, but I think it was so above the abysmally shit normal route that I ended up really liking it.>sanitized away the the abusive romance imageryI wouldn't say it fully did it, the drowning in ecstasy allusions are there and (you) and Kris are bumping into Noelle repeatedly and rhythmically, there's a lot of sex allegories in the scene. I mean it's still very much about finding freedom in a fucked way, since Noelle is just done with everything and wants out by any means necessary.
>>742685545One of them was called Childhood's End. I can't remember the name of the other.
>>742685632I'm a regular in these threads and have been for years. I also hate chapter 5. Just because people say things you disagree with doesn't mean they're tourists.
>>742685921>did anyone play TS Underswap?Yeah, I did awhile ago. Remember really enjoying it. Writing was great, jokes landed and were paced well. The original characters felt really fitting. There's even a side quest system in place which gives each area more character (nothing major but there's a lot of cute, little moments that arise from it). Biggest problem with it so far is that there's only 2 chapters.
>>742678853I need all images of the second nigga immediately
>>742685921>but he feels a bit too 1 note,I think he's a decently nuanced character. More nuanced than the previous two chapter bosses. And better executed than the following two. >Toby is a coward that couldn't let the poor turtle stay dead.I think him showing up one last time was fine. My main problem with 4 was it being too dark too early, playing things too straight with the prophecy, and lacking enough strong personalities. Chapter 5 feels like a monkey's paw wish based on my chapter 4 complaints. >I mean it's still very much about finding freedom in a fucked wayIts not about (me) getting back control and finding freedom though. Its just Noelle getting freedom for herself.
>>742685921speaking of TSswap, that game had a festival and it was also significantly better than DR's since it had actual minigames.
>>742686135Val? He's the strongest and our FUARKING HERO
I brought up Asgore and how shafted he was earlier, but the fact we were teased with Asriel and he didn't even show up was so fucking lame, it was one of the biggest things people were looking forward to. Kinda hoping some autist makes a chapter 5 mod that adds goat boy and makes Asgore actually do ANYTHING instead of vagueposting.>>742686119Hopefully it doesn't turn into vaporware, I've depressing seem this cycle repeating itself a lot with good Pokemon fangames.>>742686165Fair on Queen, I do like King though, because he was an actual asshole before his character was ruined.Yeah the Titan was complete ass, Flowery though I'm not sure, I actually like him a bit but overall it's mostly mixed feelings.>Chapter 4I just wished they stuck to the dark and twisted version of Gerson that was spawned from Susie's hubris, like I said, I really love chapter 1 and how unabashedly dark and more serious it is.5 coming after all the setup from 4 was just baffling.>It's just Noelle getting freedom for herselfTrue, like I said in an earlier post, Toby will literally do anything and everything to cuck the player in some way.>>742686198There are no words to how shit the festival was, the only interesting things in it that I recall were NormalNPC and the stuff with Sans and the the implications it brings along with it.
Say, how tall is Wiki exactly?I know she's tall, presumably taller than the average human man by quite a bit, but I'm curious as to whether there are any specifics to her height.Also because I imagined asking her to lower herself to my eye level for a moment so I could pet the top of her head and make her blush, and I thought that was a cute mental image but I wanna know how accurate that would be.
>>742685990In the event you're merely autistic and don't understand what I'm saying.I have no issue with you not liking chapter 5.
>>742686693Then what's the issue? So far everyone in this thread (barring the one notorious schizo) came here to discuss fangames, with this being a tangent off of that discussion.
>>742686683She's taller than Toriel by a significant margin, who is in turn taller than your average human male. She may be the same height as Asgore.
>>742686819The one explicitly stated in the post earlier that didn't contain the phrase>AIIEEE STOP SAYING BAD THINGS ABOUT CHAPTER 5
>>742686851Alright, nice, gotta love a tall woman.I would ask if she ever feels self-conscious about her height, but knowing Oldentale, that question's answer is just going to be deeply sad, so pretend I never said anything.
>>742686418>Kinda hoping some autist makes a chapter 5 mod that adds goat boy and makes Asgore actually do ANYTHING instead of vagueposting.I think a fangame would be better. I've thought about the idea of an Asgore and Flowery vs The Knight fangame. But my own sour feelings on chapter 5 kinda make me not want to pursue it. >, I do like King though, because he was an actual asshole before his character was ruined.I thought he was kinda boring. The other characters' interactions with him were fun, but himself was boring. >FloweryHe's good in concept, but they completely whiffed the execution, so he falls flat. >I really love chapter 1 and how unabashedly dark and more serious it is.I don't think it was really that dark. To me it seemed pretty goofy throughout. >GersonI liked the triumphant moment with Gerson there. Its one of the few parts of the chapter I really liked. Similarly basically the only part of Flowery I liked (besides him telling Ralsei to fuck off) was when he fought the knight. I know its basically "hype moments and aura" tier, but I can appreciate something that's unabashedly just doing it for rule of cool.
>>742686923Ok well that's a non issue then. There are no "faggots coming here from the Deltarune thread to ruin this one and force opinions".
>>742687112I'd prefer it if you didn't tell me the piss on my leg was rain, regardless of whether or not you're the pisser.
>>742687168Point to the posts then.
>>742687168What if it's raining piss?
>>742686198It has a festival? Might give it a go to see how it was done then because the DR one was a massive disappointment
>>742686418>Hopefully it doesn't turn into vaporwareI decided to check their itch.io and apparently they are actually making good progress on chapter 3. They just seem to be also... and I don't know why, updating stuff from prior chapters everything was already high quality to begin with. What a waste of time.
>>742685851>cyclical nature of the conflict>the underlying philosophies were still plainly apparentah yes, the obvious stuff, just like how it's evident that black cat with pink and yellow eyes is the big bad of deltarune, everybody knows thati won't get into the weeds, but lucas' prequel pottery is exactly the sort of thing one would hope to avoid with any sort of extensive "exploration"there is a fundamental viscreal disagreement about fiction between us, so i will bow out gracefully by saying 7th stand user is overwhelmingly based and it's almost entirely fanservice
I just realized how Deltarune will end.>the Knight has been defeated, the only Dark Fountain left is the one in Castle Town>Ralsei reluctantly decides that one has to be sealed too>big emotional goodbye with Kris and Susie>Kris seals the Fountain, Castle Town turns back into the storage closet>if you got all of the recruits then Kris and Susie are immediately crushed to death by all of the stuff they crammed into the closet
>>742687381yeah, a carnival near the end of the second area.
>>742687480>SpoilerWell we agree on that. It could do with less grinding though. And gameplay that amounts to more than spamming your strongest group attack over and over again. Really I'd be fine with UT fangames that are like that. In story concept at least, not so much in gameplay. This actually reminds me of an idea from a while back for a Deltatraveler Yellow that would have Cole and Kanako appear in various famous fangames. I wonder what a 7SU chapter would look like?
Dina the Mamadillohttps://files.catbox.moe/te6yb4.mp4
>>742688758certified r/uty classic right there
Man, Wiki has a surprisingly complicated face for someone who looks Like This™, can't draw her with her mouth open without her looking like a fish.
Oldentale anon!Am I still to draw Wiki with proper hooves?
>>742667412he really likes to be jewish and shitty games
For awhile now an idea for a story has been rattling around in my head. I remember coming into uty threads a couple of times and seeing that one poster repost "Reminder Ceroba is fat."Which naturally lead my perverse brain to think about a story where reality is warped by a note with that same phrase, Ceroba getting fatter every time she reads it, but being in denial about it. Any other perverted fucks in here think this sounds good
>>742690079...Honestly, I'm not opposed to her getting bigger, but just her getting fat isn't enough for me, something has to be *done* with her fat.
>>742689931Yes. That is your prime directive.
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>>742690079Depends, how's it distributed?
>>742689309Maybe try using some Toriel art as reference.
>>742690159Personal preference is for a pear/maternal shape as she gets fatter. I do just kinda prefer butts out of the three Bs though so I'm biased.>>742690115I like the reality warping so she doesn't realize that she's fat, I think being in denial is also hot. What do you mean by something needs to be done with the fat?
I've done it. I studied multiple different images and artists for this, and while it's not perfect, I have created the first hoof fetish image of Wiki. For a first real attempt, I think it went okay.Two versions, in fact, because I had an offshoot idea that I felt compelled to make, since it was fairly simple.Version one, Wiki showing off her hooves: https://files.catbox.moe/vmlyxg.pngVersion two, Wiki getting an unexpected response to her hooves (explicit): https://files.catbox.moe/tyw6b8.pngRather small images, but I would appreciate any feedback, thoughts, whatever you may wish to say on this.Next (planned) image, Polynesian sex with Wiki.The joke is dead, long live the joke.
>>742690402>I like the reality warping so she doesn't realize that she's fat, I think being in denial is also hot.Hm, denial doesn't do too much for me, unless it's done in a certain way, like if she had a partner (lovingly) teasing her for being fat while she's embarrassed about it.>What do you mean by something needs to be done with the fat?Oh, I mean, I just usually like when there's something more than just a character being fat, like their belly or other enlarged assets being played with, or certain other things that are probably just specific to me because I'm a very specific freak, etc.Her being fat is nice though, so anything else is probably outside the scope of whatever story you may wish to make with this, so it's fine.
>fat fetish discussion followed by foot fetish picturesFuck it the mods really should just nuke these threads, please
>>742690735Ahem, they're hooves.
>>742690735I'm somewhat entertained that when these threads had unbirthing and breastmilk talk, these threads didn't have people begging for the threads to get nuked out of orbit.
I'll be away from my PC for a bit, would someone kindly handle uploading those to esix for me?
>>742690725I had an idea of Chujin being a chubby chaser. Potentially the one who wrote the note to tease Ceroba. Honestly while writing this I think that's a good way to go. Chujin is happier with each iteration because of his totally secret fetish that everyone in the underground but Ceroba knows. If I end writing this I might do one for Chujin as well. Lean into him being a twink and get extremely thick around the hips while being teased about it.
>>742690402Put some on her tits and I'm sold
>>742690964She's not a man, Anon. Of course her heaving bosom will get some love. Probably spilling out of her dress because she refuses to change sizes.
>>742690963Hm.I admittedly do like the idea of Ceroba's lover being the one to do it to her, though I'm more of a Ceroba/Anon guy than a Cerojin guy, but that doesn't matter here.
Oh yeah, before I go for a bit, I'll put this here, for anyone who wants to read something weird: https://rentry.org/aihme7p3Curious what anyone has to say about it, if anything.
>>742691007I usually prefer Anon too but I think Chujin being into it is funnier.
>>742688758I was watching this waiting for the explicit twist, only to be surprised there was no twist.
>>742690626You got me, you got me good. She's never getting proper digitigrade legs, is she?Good drawing though.
>>742691061When you say weird, how weird are we talking here? What does it have?
>>742691130What?Oh come on, you sent those Signirsol drawings back then, I studied those!
>>742690963Imagine Chujin getting her to read it during sex, and her visibly enlarging while riding him
>>742691145Ceroba gets her holes used by a fucking-machine built by Anon while in sensory deprivation.
>>742691089Oh, well if you're going for comedy, sure, I just assumed this was to be hot first and foremost.
>>742691183Oh, guess it's just a weird angle then. For what its worth that is about how I drew them, and assumed that was you poking fun at my art's undersized hooves. I kinda assumed she was gonna have some real big proper hooves with how much you talked about what actual digitigrade hooves look like. What was the joke?
>>742691213The bed buckles, breaks, and reforms all in an instant. Still undersized. Getting new beds was becoming ritualistic as Ceroba outgrew one each year after marrying Chujin. Even now, her triple wide hips were only a month or two away from flowing off the bed. Something that made her husband all the more excited.>>742691249It can be comedic and hot. It just feels like it slots into place better.
>>742691183Apologies, anon. I guess I'm the one at fault for drawing her wrong to begin with. Maybe I should go back and redo that battle sprite.
>>742691325>Oh, guess it's just a weird angle then.It was my first time drawing them and they're weird to draw, cut me a bit of slack.And yes, I did use that battlesprite of her for reference when making this, so it's less me making fun of it and moreso just being "on-model", as that was one of the primary complaints back then. >I kinda assumed she was gonna have some real big proper hooves with how much you talked about what actual digitigrade hooves look like. That can happen later, when I get around to it.Or hell, you can send me some more references and I can use those for when I draw her entire legs again. Probably not next time, since her hooves probably won't be visible in my next planned drawing of her.>What was the joke?Me being weird and threatening about it beforehand.
>>742691450Eh, not a fan of hyper. Not hyper fat at least.
>>742691543I thought of it more her being 7 feet tall and fat rather than being a blob.
>>742691490I did everything, everything you ever asked!I executed the plan!*ahem*, anyway.I addressed the primary complaint at the time, me having drawn her with foot-hooves, by studying more proper hooves, and giving her those instead, the overall structure of her legs was its own issue not directly intertwined with her "feet".I'll be drawing her again shortly, I might even be setting up the basic sketch for my next image of her after I shower, so if you have any particular references for her legs you'd like me to use, now would be the time to send them my way, if you feel so inclined.
>>742679496Deltarune Yellow has a focus on the underutilized characters from Undertale yellow by putting them in new scenarios that don't doom them by the plot (Kanako and Cole/Clover especially, but there's also fox family stuff, Sadie, Martlet and Integrity), great light world story that I have little to no complaints aboutThe dark worlds so far aren't terribly impressive but fun enough and have their moments, Day 2's especially feels more robust over Day 1's much like how actual Deltarune has a very basic chapter 1, it also has some Mario and Luigi styled puzzles where you split Kanako and Cole up to solve them.I think the only thing that can ruin real Deltarune is Suselle (I liked chapter 5's dark world) and I think it's somewhat likely it's gonna be the focus of the main routes story, DRY doesn't have anything close that evokes that feeling for me but obviously has much lower production value
>>742691607Wait, is she getting taller too?
>>742691450>It can be comedic and hot. It just feels like it slots into place better.Hm, I guess.It's hotter for me personally when it's 'roba/anon, but it's your story, so I won't fuss about it.
>>742691668Honestly I probably need to find some references for myself. I seriously am considering redoing that sprite.
>>742690626Good work anon, I really like how she looks like here.
>>742691724Well, if you do, I guess I'll have to make another hoof-focused image of her based on how you draw her then.Maybe I'll lock her in some stocks next time, have some fun at her expense.
>>742691686Pretty common headcanon that the monsters are pretty tall already.
>>742690886I have botched EXTENSIVELY about the unbirthing crap as long as it's been going on, to the point that I gave up and stopped out of recognition that nothing I say will prevent itI have seriously thought about joining the schizo in reporting these threads when the fetish talk starts but I recognize it would be cutting off my nose to spite my face. I do fucking hate it though, from the bottom of my heart. I hate the fetish fics, I hate the fetish pics, and sometimes I just close the thread over it and probably miss something I would have wanted to see or discuss. It's a cancer and I've watched it grow over time as people get more and more comfortable about it in the open. Please just make a /trash/ thread once a week to get it out of your systems, this is a blue board and so is /vrpg/.
>>742692258If I got mad everytime a thread derailled into fetish posting I wouldn't be using 4chan period, bro
>>742692258Anon, you do know you can just scroll past discussion you don't like, right? Its really best practice to do that, since this whole site is loaded with fetish content on basically every board. The only difference is that blue board stuff is softcore vs the hardcore you see on red boards. Even these threads have had fetish posting of some kind since the beginning (like the Roba piss greens or fatfag Kanako)
>>742692463>or fatfag Kanakohey! when i do it, its to flashbang the thread. im not inviting an open discussion about kanako's lard lust.
>>742692352Nta but there's a pretty stark difference when people oogle over cute vidya girls and unbirthing
>>742692352Do NOT pretend like this shit is normal, fuck you for insulting my intelligence. Most threads don't have 50 post discussions about vore or armpits, and the only threads I see that regularly DO are fully rotted /vg/ threads with nothing to talk about anymore. I do not want these fangame threads to turn into that; we're not even talking about turning into /utg/ anymore (unless /utg/ got even worse since I last went there), we're talking about undead VN general behavior. We HAVE new content, we do not NEED to behave like that.
>>742692501Regardless of your intention, that is inviting it. We've certainly had discussions over it.
>>742692258I'm like 99% sure I know the exact anon behind the unbirthing spam, and it's the same guy who always jumps to the unbirthing drawfag's defense when faced with mild negativity.Pretty sure it's also the guy leaving those creepy comments on all the e621 uploads, same ESL grammar and tone.
>>742692696Whether or not it is the same guy, I think naming and chasing specific posters is a bad precedent to set. We already had serious problems from that sort of thing just the other day.
>Be me>Be Ceroba>Eat a hamburger>Instantly dust
>>742692519I should be more directly insulting then. You need to get off your computer if this genuinely bothers you this much. You gain nothing from continuing to be angry about this besides potential humiliation. If you want a more heavily moderated video game forum, you're barking up the wrong tree.
>>742693098I'm going to start actually reporting these posts, both here and on /vrpg/, even if it means the threads are more likely to get nuked. I've been too tolerant for too long and I'm not going to accept getting told to go to reddit if I don't want to see hundreds of posts discussing the ethics of shoving a child up your vagina so he can be reborn in your image. If we all have to go down then so be it, I'm already about to kill myself
>>742693098>>742693202can both of you calm down, this is not worth getting this worked up over, and this hostility helps no one
>>742692696The issue with this as someone else already mentioned is that it gets to a point where regardless if it is them or not, everyone somehow gets labelled as the problem poster, and it just seriously derails these threads because there's one or two people obsessed with accusing someone of being someone else, because they happened to like something they don't like, or have similar opinions.It's way beyond the point of "oh it's definitely this guy." It's pretty much posting roulette now. All one person has to do is say something, disagree with a take, or make a offhand comment, and someone here will lock on to them with malice, because they're convinced it's someone else.We've already had two whole ass threads that shows what happens when this gets out of hand. None of this is worth getting riled up over. All it's going to do is give actual problem posters ammunition, and the worst part is people already know this yet they just can't help themselves.
>>742694121How are people supposed to stay quiet if they see something they don't like here? Wouldn't saying nothing just make it worse?
>>742694261Saying nothing does nothing. The only way you can actively make things worse is by saying something. Getting hostile and combative results in one of two things, either you hit an innocent poster and either drive them out of the thread motivate them to become a shirposter, or you hit a shitposter and they dig their heels in and shitpost more to spite you. The only winning move is not to play.Even if you absolutely feel that you must report these posts (I would say you shouldn't, because bringing in the jannies is just going to ensure than no good posts are allowed) don't announce that you're doing that. That's only going to make people harbor grudges against you, leading to more hostilities, and make trolls do the things you dislike more in an attempt to get the thread deleted.
>>742694261Constantly drawing attention to a problem is only going to make the problem worse. That's the kind of place these threads are. If someone comes here and starts trying to turn this place into a shitstorm, you're not going to give them the satisfaction of a reaction are you?Of course not, because you know if you do they're just going to double down, or potentially cause more people to do the same thing.
>>742690626not into feet (or hooves for that matter) but she does look pretty cute in these, her legs are specially nice, I think her arms are a bit bigger than you would expect from someone like her.
>>742682031At that point, you could look at any portrait of Flam Kish from Fuga for inspiration.
>>742688758This has pretty good spritework. The dialogue leans too hard into ow the edge, but Dina's overworld sprite is great. I prefer it to her DRY sprite, honestly>>742690626The first one is cute. Well done!>>742691217Yeah I'll pass on that.>>742692519It got bad only in the night because, well, it's the middle of the night. Don't stress over it. Saying you're "already about to kill yourself" is a sign you need to turn off the internet and get some help.
>>742682626That mostly is down to autists pissing blood over Kris not doing what they want and being an actual character.>reeeeeeeeeeee how dare you invalidate meeeeeeeeeenigger and the faggot
>>742683205Turns out tobycore was never actually a thing and it was just a way for retards and faggots to police artwork
>>742690725>I just usually like when there's something more than just a character being fat, like their belly or other enlarged assets being played withbased, hope to see some belly content from you soon
>>742684086Wonder if he'll kill himself when John K dies.
>>742695338NTA, but like, "Ren and Stimpy" John K?John Kricfalusi?
Sex with Fem Clover!
>>742665306Legally Distinct Team are RPG heroes, Dollar Store Fun Gang look like the protagonists of a furry persona game.
>>742695336Eh, I usually prefer to draw characters with their canonical body types, so other than Bedo, or non UTDR related characters, that's probably not going to be too common from me.Huh, deja vu.
i want him
>>742695484At least there's one character for that
>>742694261Let's say an innocent poster liked really big breasts, and there's a problem poster here that likes really big breasts, and there's someone else who really doesn't like big breasts. Now let's say someone posted an image that has it. The innocent poster expressed their fondness for the image and hoped to see more, only for the person to not like it to start hounding and insulting the innocent poster because they think it's the problem poster, and they refuse to listen to reason, doubling down on the accusations, causing the innocent poster to get mad, and likely someone else stepping in to tell the guy to cut it out, only for them to then claim their samefags. Now repeat this exact scenario hundreds of times for different things. You see the problem?There's no winning here. You've either just caused an innocent poster to potentially leave these threads for good, because you refused to believe they had nothing to do with all the problem posting someone else did, despite liking the same thing. Or you just gave a problem poster more reasons to do what they do, because they can see your reacting and directing your negativity at innocent people.You can't control what other people will and won't post here, and shouldn't try to either. If you see something you're not into, just scroll past it, don't complain, move on, and go on about your business. If someone's trying to start something, don't react, don't respond, just ignore them. The only way to stop something from becoming a bigger problem is to not say anything and make it a problem.
why not take these designs and make your own thing?i feel like it would be 1000 times better to just make your own story
>>742695451>Dollar Store Fun Gang look like the protagonists of a furry persona game....so they look like JRPG heroes?
>>742695130>The first one is cute. Well done!Yeah, could've done better with that second one, it was mostly just a whim.
>>742695694Very different types, there's no fantasy in the latter, just teenager romance drama.
>>742695663fangames make for good practice before starting a more profesional project, you get mechanics, chararacters a setting and assets to use, people on the internet are also willing to work for free on a fangame project, can't say the same for an original game
>>742695646If someone's posting something I don't like regardless of what it is, the correct response is to tell them to not post it here. How is what I'm a doing the problem?
>>742695897>How is what I'm a doing the problem?NTA, but to a answer your a question, it is a because there's a difference between something you don't a like, and something that is actually a problem.
>>742673127That's just Kris.
>>7426958974chan doesn't work like social media.
>>742695663If Dante and von Goethe, absolute legends of literature, are most well-known for glorified fanfiction, there is no shame at all in making fan content for a game.
>>742686418>patternfag has another meltdown
>>742695604Ceroba...
Hey, anon who wrote the Wiki "Polynesian sex" green a while back, I have a question for you, regarding the drawing I'm going to make based on it.My current plan is to have the image in first-person, from the anon's perspective, with Wiki laying down on the bed as the anon's inside her, but I didn't initially know what to do with the anon's or Wiki's hands, so I thought it'd be cute to have the anon's hands on Wiki's hips, and have Wiki grabbing the anon's wrists while she says she needs them, like she's trying to pull the anon even closer to her.Any thoughts on that? Have an alternative idea for it, or any ideas you'd want me to consider?Basically just spitballing here.
So did everyone start yelling again because we hit fetish critical mass or something and pissed off some anon in particular?
Would you play a Chapter 0 fangame where you control the Vessel and explore the Shelter with Kid Kris and Dess?
>>742696168i don't think i'm Ceroba...
>>742692258I'd be less annoyed with it if they didn't get pissy over it being called fetish posting.
>>742696386The only people who get upset about being called fetishists are the unbirthing guys, everyone else knows what they are just fine.
>>742695897Pretty much every drawanon here has drawn an image that features something that people really like, and an image that features something that people aren't into. It's the same for writeranons as well.By your logic they shouldn't post anything here period because they happened to draw one thing that you don't personally like.Yeah sorry but this place don't work like that. You're going to see a whole bunch of stuff here, and you have to learn to deal with it.If you decided to start being hostile towards drawanons, writeranons. and other posters because they like something that you don't, then the only problematic person here is you.If you're unable to keep things to yourself, and hellbent on complaining about everything that bothers you, you'll find yourself being the catalyst of a shitstorm, or worse the threads getting deleted.
>>742696534>or worse the threads getting deletedSo be it
>>742696650If you don't like the threads so much, why not just leave?It makes no difference to you in the end.
>>742696431I don't mind unbirthing, I've kind of become numb to it, or at least when it's contained or done in a certain way. Not sure how someone could deny it's a fetish because it is a fetish. Pregnancy is a fetish, so it doesn't make sense that unbirthing wouldn't be.
BBW Ceroba should not be this controversial on /v/ of all places lmao
>>742696386I like it, more specifically when the drawanon does it cause you don't really see it happen, and he makes normal pregnancy alts without it. I like many other fetishes to. I have no shame.
>>742695484>so other than BedoBurying your face in Bedo's soft belly! Bedo getting annoyed but not stopping you because she's into it too!
>>742696705I think people are intrigued by the concept of an unbirthing fetish being drawn in a way that it no longer resembles a fetish anymore. It is an interesting question: is it possible to conceptualize somewhat extreme fetishes in such a way that it loses its perversity and becomes acceptable to the artistic eye?
>>742695371Yeah that one. Lovecraft's Cat is another trip of the /co/ schizo known as "guy"
>>742696976To be fair there was one guy that unironically argued that those posts weren't fetish material
>>742696997Yes actually, I do plan on making an image of an anon doing that with her eventually.While also licking inside her bellybutton because I am a very normal individual with normal tastes.
>>742696976We can tell.
>>742697061Either that guy was trolling and trying to a get rise out of people, or they were in denial. Either way as someone who's okay with it, it's 100% a fetish regardless of what form it comes in.
>>742697167>she actually pushes your head in once you begin licking
>>742697325Hot.
>>742696249I don't care about the vessel so no
>>742697298Is this another one of your attempts to try and rile someone up by calling them out as troll? It's getting old now.
>>742697007Take everything you just said, apply it to shit fetishists, and see if that answers your question.
>>742696351Ceroba after she suffers from a dissociation disorder after killing clover
>>742697575Other way around, that's actually the anon who tried to paint one of the drawfags as a troll the other day in the /vrpg/ thread.Check his grammar, and cross reference it with that e621 account.Note his constant mistaken usage of the word "to" instead of "too".He said it himself, he's shameless.
>>742697612The difference is that feces are inherently disgusting and ugly, while pregnancy can be beautiful. The problem that pregnant art faces in general is that it tends to look like a fetish even when deliberately drawn to not be that. If you can draw pregnant art that doesn't look like a fetish, however, you theoretically could draw unbirthing art that doesn't look like a fetish.
Martlet and Serober eating burg
So, two threads this time around, each dominated by fetish stuff for the most part.At least this one wasn't NTR.
>>742697852>you theoretically could draw unbirthing art that doesn't look like a fetish.Theorically, like a monkey with a typewriter writing the entire works of Shakespeare
>>742697852Is feces not also a part of the circle of life, the conversion of food into waste matter?When are we gonna start getting art of Zenith Martlet eating Clover, slowly digesting him, before shitting out his now brown remains?
>>742697980Burned out of all of it really. That Kanacole fic was refreshing for how vanilla it was.
>>742698309Eh, vanilla isn't enough for some people sometimes.Could be worse.
>>742698309was there really that much fetish discussion this thread?
Aaand we're across the line.
>>742697736This also feels like another attempt to rile someone up as a troll if I'm being honest with you. All these constant callouts have happened so many times and so often it just feels like desperation as a means stir something up.I couldn't care less at this point, and I imagine others are sick of it, just give it a rest already.
>>742698360To my knowledge this thread was pretty okay, there was hardly any fetish talk.
>>742698407A-okay, no shame in taking the blue pill.
>>742698026I have faith in our drawanons>>742698238Reread what you wrote and it's quite obvious. It is inherently degenerate because it is degrading and entropic, even besides the whole cannibalism issue.Pregnancy is the opposite, since it's the creation of new life. You could argue that adding unbirthing to it makes it degenerate, but in this niche case we're talking about an abstract soul entering the body, and doing so for "purification." You can disagree and find objection to the subject matter, but it's not at all equivalent.>>742698309It's hard for me to believe it was his first attempt at NSFW. A lot of passion and talent went into it.
When do you guys think the next major upset's going to happen, like the next DR chapter release, or new major fangame thing?
>>742698548>It is inherently degenerate because it is degrading and entropic, even besides the whole cannibalism issue.Is it?Some would say Clover's body being returned to the earth as Zenith's feces is beautiful, he's completing his journey of life, fulfilling his role in nature.
>>742698587Once the Wildfire demo releases and we get to see trans Luna
>>742698642No, they...They wouldn't do that, they...Oh god.
>>742698587I don't know how DRYanon's schedule looks but I predict Chapter 3 releasing before 6, and we're likely to have more stuff related to fangames here coming out too like DRY2, Oldentale, etc.. Other fangames, memes etc. are going to be a wildcard.>>742698635Ok anon. There are starving cannibals out there, go fulfill your role in nature.
>>742697007>It is an interesting question: is it possible to conceptualize somewhat extreme fetishes in such a way that it loses its perversity and becomes acceptable to the artistic eye?We have an artist here that could pull it of multiple times, and is conscious about how he draws it whenever he's requested to, so it's definitely possible.
>>742698587>or new major fangame thing?It has to be a fangame from here, otherwise I don't see them gaining that much traction, UT Promise released and it was mostly ignore same for CWK, even if that one got a bit more of discussion
>>742698723It has to happen anon, the UTW team did a deal with the devil and the lesbian curse requires a sacrifice
>>742698729It's only cannibalism if they're the same species, Zenith Martlet eating and digesting Clover wouldn't be cannibalism.It would be nature.
>>742698835Riley will be the Perseus to rescue her from such a fate.
>>742698956>herAnon...
>>742698956Riley can't even save himself from Mr.Sunshine, let's not get ahead of ourselves.
>>742698853I would say that eating any creature with human-level intelligence would count as cannibalism
>>742699062Depending on how you classify "human-level intelligence", that includes a decent bit of animals people eat pretty regularly.Especially if you count people with major intellectual disorders as human, in which case almost every animal counts.
Melody and Clover should kiss.
>>742699145I know I shouldn't respond to the bad-faith (literal) shitpost, but Undertale canonically has the existence of souls, implying that monsters and humans are each a class apart from animals regardless of intelligence. Therefore, any ensouled being could not be eaten without it being cannibalism.
>>742699363Being in their own class doesn't mean they're the same thing, in the same sense that humans and apes have a common ancestor but aren't literally the same thing, so eating an ape isn't cannibalism, it's just taboo.
>>742699330Sadie...
>>742699426If monsters coexisted with humans eating one would be a crime just like cannibalism
>>742698835Can we give it a rest already, ntrfag
>>742699932you seem to be mistaken, nobody mentioned NTR here or implied it anon,
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