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>An extensive research has shown Steamdb numbers are random generated and don’t reflect reality
>Steamdb stopped working for Marathon in May 11 and since then it has a wrong number on its API calculation resulting in a way lower value than real
>”So whether this is unintentional or intentional on Valve's part is unclear, but the API responses and daily active user rankings (on both steam and steamdb) are no longer accurate since May 11th”
Marabros… we can finally rest… the tides shifted indeed
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>>742696661
It says that the daily user rankings are inaccurate, not the concurrent players.
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>>742696661
I like ZZZ, but the fact this dumb faggot thinks it being in the four digits for most-played is "unlikely", outs his whole post as coming straight from a retard.
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I always thought something shady was up when the game clearly stabilized at 10k users ans now we're at 7k while a fucking sale is happening
I hope this puts a end to all the steamchart spam
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>>742696661
Makes sense. Marathon sold millions of copies but players prefer to set their activity to private to not get harassed by mentally ill steamcharts refreshers.
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>>742697065
Nothing weird about that, Bungie just fumbled season 2.
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Fake bad faith thread
The actual data and what this guy confirmed is that the ranking number is not updating to coincide with the accurate player numbers. The player numbers are and always have been accurate, but the ranking number itself is not updating dynamically to match.

Bad faith jewish agents like OP are attempting to (and failing to) spin the narrative that this means marathon wasn't a complete failue and flop. No one is falling for your jewish lies
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>>742696898
Of course, as he's even using the concurrent player numbers to prove the rankings are fucked.

Sorry Marabros, posting Reddit posts and lying in the OP won't save your game...
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>>742696661
Makes sense. Marathon sold millions of copies and chuddy chud faggots spamming delusional steamcharts are braindead.
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>>742696898
/thread, op btfo
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>Meanwhile
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>>742696661
fuck yea this is great news! Steam charts should be banned now and Valve should be sued for sabotaging Bungie.
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>>742697191
it's already been confirmed by the devs that there's a million concurrent players accross platform. It's a huge success
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>>742696661
Makes sense. Marathon sold a gorilion copies and this has been confirmed on Twitter by sony_lover_bungie_is_the_best by totally real number provide by Sales Facts Totally Trustworthy dot com and chuddy chuds are just malding
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>>742696661
>has to dedicate half the post to begging mods not to delete it
kek
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>>742697112
You can't opt out of appearing in the ccu numbers on steam.
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Marathon still being online proves that the game is profitable enough.
If it had closed like Concord or Highguard it would be a different story.
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>>742696661
cope and seethe
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>steam charts are botted
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>find game on steam
>go down to "find community groups"
>pick first group
>steam shows how many are in game
holy shit they're right
there are 200k playing right now
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>>742697268
Most online games are dead as fuck in OCE, basically only LoL/dota2/cs2 survive here
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>>742697901
nah we are past that and it's more that the damage is so bad that just closing it is more humiliating than adding the extra grand a month on the billion dollar loss. This is the 4th major Sony project that has bombed. They are at the stage THQ was at where it's better just to lie and waste the money because you are not getting it back regardless.
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>>742696661
soon
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>>742698046
clearly a valve conspiracy to keep marathon down
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>>742698046
>200k
>that screen grab
well played anon
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>>742698046
kek
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>>742698046
WE FUCKING WON
TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS
TRUMP IS OUT
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>>742696661
That's what I thought, Marathon sold 6 million copies, all the numbers on steamdb are fucked. It's the greatest game of 21st century, of course chuds are trying everything to stop us from winning.
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Daily peak is wrong but concurrent is correct. It doesn't help that concurrent players go as low as 2k.
So yeah shit is fucked bugged or otherwise
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this is so pathetic I actually want to physically assault the person who posted it
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>>742698071
And we haven't even got Gummy Bears or Br€ak In or Aloy's Diverse Super Friends yet...
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>>742696661
Can anyone tell me what's wrong with Marathon already? Why is this board obsessed with it?
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>>742696661
Blazztbros we're so back! Holy fuck this is the best news all month.
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>>742696661
So... nobody playing marathon since May
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>>742698374
>old singleplayer game turned extraction shooter because that's the new thing
>drama about stolen art
>game looks really fucking weird
>no one asked for this
>sony shuts down everything else to push it
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>>742696661
>drug dealer confirmed drugs are safe for consumption and hospitals are fake
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>>742696661
This is what is called "cope". I hope this helps you understand shilling.
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>>742696661
That's some fucking desperate cope. How do they explain everyone complaining about how long the queue times are then?
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>>742698059
I don't have any issues finding players on Destiny.
Really makes you think.
Yes I'm OCE.
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>>742696661
Most people who play zzz don't play from steam.
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>>742696661
>we have investigated ourselves and found no signs of wrongdoing.jpg
Holy fucking copium huffing.
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>>742696661
His arguments are "It can't be this low during a free week end" and "ZZZ numbers are too low from his expectations".
Excellent work Sherlock
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>>742699008
people are having too much of a blast playing the game to leave their matches.
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>>742696661
SteamDB doesn't have "DAU" tracker. It shows the *********REAL********** live player count. It's not inaccurate or fake.
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>>742699274
apperently is just the listing of games that is wrong, not the ammount of people playing the game at any time. Dunno why this faggy redditor bothered writing a giant cope post about it tho.
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>>742696661
>well researched and valuable information
>no data whatsoever or empirical evidence
>only "likely" and "unlikely" asspull opinions and assumptions
Are Maratrooners really this mentally retarded, ill, and desperate?
Either show the code or API analysis or fuck off.
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>>742697268
yeah, that's just an OCE thing
do they simply not allow the prison islanders to queue for east asia or NA?
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>>742696661
That's right chuds, don't trust your lying eyes.
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>>742699604
Anon
This game only appeals to mentally ill americans
Just troons playing this garbage. It's on complete death spiral everywhere except for usa and it's hat.
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>>742696661
Steam literally tells you how many people in game though
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>>742696661
https://old.reddit.com/r/Marathon/comments/1uoqnsg/just_logged_off_because_i_couldnt_find_a_game/
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>>742697339
>SAAR
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>the stats work for every other game
>but let me clarify how the stats work for this this unspecified detail

this is the same type of gymnastics logic when movie accoutants report that Film X has 'the most succesful visitors amount on a 3rd tuesday of May 19th prior to 2013 during a solstice'
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>>742696661
microsoft: it's valve's fault that a third party datascraping site shows our game as having low playercount
lol
lmao
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>>742697263
To be fair to OP the post is written so poorly it's easy for people who don't speak english to get lost, even if they aren't retarded.
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>>742697065
>people playing marathon until they lose interest
>put thousands of games on sale
>3k people lose interest in marathon and play something new
what's the problem?
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>>742699604
no why would a game with 10 billion secret uncounted players need to do cross-region matchmaking?
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>>742696661
ok, still not playing it.
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There are hundreds of thousands of people playing Marathon offline on Steam. You guys are so desperate to hate this game.
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>>742696661
Steiner's Patch will put this into order
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>>742699604
It's dead in EU too, NA is the last stronghold.
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>>742700713
Weird, people don’t play baldurs gate 3 or Elden ring offline, why marathon? Does tf2 also have millions of players who are playing offline? Dustborn might have been a success and we will be getting 6 sequels.
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the 1 billion imaginary players are real to me dammit
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>>742701926
Xe has a point. Trannies online would rather keep their accounts private in order to avoid attention on the internet because everyone on it are evil chuds so there's actually 400k trannies playing rn as we speak
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He's right, Marathon's a huge success. At least 1 million player concurrent peak.
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>i noticed weird things! therefor its all wrong!
riveting bro tell me more, did you also take a shit and go to bed at some point last night?
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>>742698374
Nothing wrong. Stop asking and go to play it already. If you still didn't then ask yourself why, and that will be the answer.
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>>742698374
/v/ has been chasing the Tortanic high for nearly a decade and a half now.
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Is the game called Marathon because it's a race to hit rock bottom?
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>>742696661
>just deny reality from the chuds!
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jesus christ, 3k?

not maintenance? holy shit
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how do you say "owari da" in concord-ese?
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>>742704123
ACK
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>>742698374
It's a shitty game that is being pushed exceptionally hard by the industry.
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>>742698418
oh my god that is so bad
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>>742704123
i cant believe my favourite post apocalypse frozen wasteland city building challenging game has more playerbase than maratroon
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>>742697180
This
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>>742696995
This. Who the fuck plays phone games on Steam?
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>Making fun of <Marathon> player numbers when there is a literal WAR going on
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>>742702651
too many based toxic chuds telling the troons to kill themselves so they have to play on the invisible setting which somehow lets them play online without being found by the chuds
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>>742696661
Marathon player discovers that total =/= concurrent
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>>742697425
yep, we even tested that in an onirism thread to deal with the cope. Even if you are set to invisible you will show up on CCU
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>>742696661
so Marathon has 100k players CCU instead of 10k or what?
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>>742704741
are they concern enough that im about to bust a fat load 10 times a day to marathon characters?
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Marathon fucked it so bigly.
>Release window had very few direct competitors, Arc was on its way out due to bad management by Embark.
>Giga flopped.
>S2 giga flopped even harder.
>Now new games are going to eclipse Marathon.
>There have already been two extraction games that came out the past couple of weeks that took the attention of all the streamers, SAND: Raiders of Sophie and now the playtest of HUNGER.
>More extraction games will come out and release and directly compete with Marathon.
>Other big games like GTA 6 while not directly competing will still take away attention from Marathon.
They had a good release window but people did not like it at all. This is what people meant that Bungie was trend chasing. By the time they wanted to make an extraction shooter even though there was only Tarkov and a couple other games in the market, it was already too late. Because you and 20 other retards all have the same idea of wanting to make an extraction shooter and as we can see now, they're all starting to come out. Not to mention other extraction shooters that have been released in between the development of Marathon, further tightening the small market for extraction shooters.
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>>742696661
Lmao the cope is off the charts
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Even the chinkslop Tarkov clone (ABI) has a fulltime PVE mode out now, looking far deeper and more engaging than the shit that marathon has suggested will come out at some point in the future
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I don't get it, so the current players marker is working fine but the daily peak marker is wrong? but then it's so easy to see the daily peak anyway.
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>>742704741
This is clearly satire.
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>>742696661
lol this is embarrassing
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>>742705331
No you don't understand, only the marathon numbers are inaccurate. This is confirmed by science, the rest are accurate though
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>>742704186
>no one is gaming because of the heat wave
Wouldn't it increase gaming since you would have to stay inside not to be toasted by the sun?
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Bungie mass layoffs when?
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>>742705852
gamers can't afford AC
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>>742705331
>but the daily peak marker is wrong?
No. He's saying that the ranking is wrong. So the numbers for concurrent and peak are still accurate. It's the "this game is #231 in daily users" thing that's wrong, which is a complete nothingburger.
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>>742705949
they just fired half the company
the only thing keeping them alive is Sony's stubborn pride refusing to admit they have another failed live service game on their hands
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>>742705124
my attraction to Becky is off the charts too
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>>742705949
Sony acquired Bungie on July 15th 2022. $1.2 billion was set aside as a retention incentive for the next 4 years. That fund is going to dry up and people will be able to claim their last payment.

I'm fairly certain that Sony is just expecting a mass exodus of employees on or around that date, so they don't have to actually fire them.
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>>742696661
AHAHAHHA
>Bungie:
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>>742705057
None of these games are anything like Marathon
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>>742704015
That's a huge daily variance, to go from 2.5k to 8k.
This means practically only americans are playing this game.
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>>742698046
Well he was right about the gachashit rating being off, though that's probably not what he intended.
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>>742706479
The euro numbers will return once the world cup is over. Everyone is just having a blast right now watching live football, they'll come back in a month.
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>>742706679
Mein fuhrer... Steiner introduced all the euros to the GTA 6 trailer. They forgot about Marathon.
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>>742696661
>>742697065
>>742705762
>Trust me bro it’s on Reddit
No, it’s a dead game.
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>you see the player count is wrong because of this other unrelated metric that updates much more infrequently
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>>742696661
The coping is absolutely monumental. Holy fucking shit. Reminds me of the Intergalactic shills desperately claiming the youtube dislikes extension is completely made up, all to deflect from the huge lack of interest/negative reactions these trash heaps have gotten.

The irony here is that most people have forgotten all about Marathon. Posts like these are just the last gasp of a dying studio desperate clinging to relevancy.

They even put the blame squarely on Destiny when devs from other projects have been laid off as well. Slimy piece of shit company.
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>>742699447
It's just a new, extremely elaborate cope. I'd put my money on this being a desperation post from one of the Marathon lolcows, maybe Tahnit.
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>>742706413
Sand and Hunger are extraction shooters, to say they do not share ANY similarities is retarded. In addition, they dont have to be similar when big games like GTA will take viewers and gamer attention away from whatever Marathon will do.
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maratroon cope on full blast, time to end it.
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>>742704741
There is no way this post isn't a joke
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any offline / private server program for this piece of shit yet? not giving bunghole €40 lmfao
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>>742708060
it’s the new
>uh, covid lockdowns or something is why our game is shit or something
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oof
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>>742709656
How exactly does this personally affect you? You only need a few dozen players to play the game.
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>>742710328
Why didnt that happen with concord and highguard?
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>>742711774
Concord didn’t even had 1000 players
Marathon to this day has a stable player base 7 times bigger than Concord’s and that’s only on steam
It is well known after season 2 90% of the players are on PS5
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>>742703953
monkebros... it's over
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Steam charts are... unreliable?... w...how are we gonna judge if a game is good or not?! You don't expect me to play them do you?..
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steam charts are antisemitic, all they do is trash the reputation of a game
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>>742696661
This is great news, but I think our moment of true redemption will happen at the Game Awards this year.
I’m predicting Marathon will take home at least three or four awards, and the final announcement of the night will be a single player campaign dlc (the first of a few, episodic campaigns).
Right now, I think Marathon has at least 12 million concurrent players on PS5, which for a weekday is fantastic.
I can only imagine that PC counts are quadruple that amount.
We’re fucking feasting, Bungiebros
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>>742712507
>Arguing about Marathon Vs Concord
Where did you go wrong in life anon? You're free to look up Fireriku546, MackOnslaught, CyberAngelYukikaze to see how bad things got for me, and I'm the one saying this.
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>>742711774
Concord was very literally DOA and it was obvious to everyone.

Highguard simply ran out of money because it stumbled out of the gate, Tencent (correctly) guessed it wasn't going to make it, then exercised a clause in their contract with the devs and pulled out.

Sony hasn't killed Marathon for unstated reasons despite it obviously being a financial failure. My guess is it's because it would rattle investor confidence too much because killing it would admit the entire Bungie purchase was a huge waste on money on top of putting a nail in the coffin of their even more expensive live service push.

Maybe Xbox has the right idea and Sony needs to send someone in to fire everyone in their gaming division.
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>>742696661
Even if they're not fully accurate, you can still easily gauge a game's popularity by comparing its numbers to other games.
Sounds like megacope to me.
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>>742713320
Marathon has good bones to build around and it's an IP that has resonated with audiences for decades. Season 3 will save it, and if not season 3 then 4 or 5 will be the kick in its dick that it needs to get going.
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Destiny wonned
Marathon losted
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>>742713552
nice, already pre-coping
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>>742713552
This is weak bait and you should be embarrassed by its low quality.
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>>742713659
soulless slop, feeble attempt at the original greatness. That's why you're reposting indian slop instead of the OC from the white house account
-10000 izzat
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>>742713845
The light provides... the second amendment applies...
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>>742714132
Praise
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>>742706679
Mein Führer... Steiner's Vault Breaker update... it only appeals to existing players and Season 3 has been delayed until September...
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>>742714440
>september
I thought it was delayed until next year no?
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>>742714534
They delayed it because of the layoffs, reminder that they fired pretty much every major lead director for Marathon... Which effectively means they quietly canned the project. Season 3 might be the last for real, there can't be a Season4 without any leadership, specially since they gutted the art director and other important people for the game, and they aren't hiring either.

Vault Breaker and Season 3 might be their last Hail Mary before they just give up.
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>>742714773
Bungie needs a "taken king" with marathon so im not really sure how they are gonna pull that off with season 3 other than the pve mode but I dont think thats gonna make the game sell like crazy. I think people will still be bitter that they abandoned destiny and marathon at most will get a 60k launch day
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>>742696661
>reddit post
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>>742704741
In 5 years after this game has gone offline and been forgotten I hope we still remember posts like these to have a laugh at
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>>742696661
>An extensive research
>I first noticed... I then noticed... You can also notice...
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>>742696661
>reddit
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>>742696661
blast sisters...why are they laughing again. The game is doing great, better than ever.
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>>742714930
Nothing can save Marathon. The fundamentals are broken. They made trials of osiris, a Destiny PVP mode that eventually died because it was a 3 vs 3 sweat mode with no casual appeal and punishes you for solo queing without a premade, and made an entire game that had similiar issues and is also dying. The solo player that will do the same strikes 15 times a day carried Destiny and they turned their back on those casuals and the game is dead.

It is really hard to make competitive games in 2026 when most people want coop stuff or modes where elite players don't stomp you
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Real talk
why are maratards so pathetic? theeyre literaly grasping straws in an attempt to get some w out of their stillborn game
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>>742697180
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>>742697180
Best post
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>>742704123
>one of the worst CoD games ever is getting more players
KWAB
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>>742716216
It's not exclusive to Marathon, but this is what happens when people align their personality and self worth to a game or media property.
>(pre release) I like Marathon and think it will succeed
>people are attacking Marathon? Why? Don't they see (like I did) that it's a good game? (My taste isn't bad, right? No. It's the chuds who are wrong.)
>(Marathon flops, chuds laugh)
>Those haters! They just can't see what a good game it is! (*I* didn't make the wrong choice here. *My* taste in games isn't bad.) etc.

I see it a lot in the normalfag sphere with capeshit stuff. Ever talk to an actual dyed in the wool DC fan? They don't take it well when you point out how shitty most of those Superman movies are. And I think Irate Ignacio just had a melty over someone memeing on the Supergirl flop, lmao
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>>742704741
I can't wait for the image macro of all the worst excuses for the player count being low to be made after Marathon ends service.
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>>742716216
its leftshit trash, faggots, trannies, feminists and neoliberal worms.
all that happened was Marathon failed to launch, unfortunate and unceremonious - it happens. But what actually happened is the messaging & imaging behind it, these faggots identified that "chuds" and "right wing people" were vocally against the game, so the leftshits made it their entire identity.

They do this with everything now, worship shit and trash. Lie about everything. Pretending to have a good time. Neoliberal normgroids are extremely mentally ill.
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the status is grim.
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>>742716216
Go one level higher. The issue isn't just maratards. It's reddittards. I have seen so many reddit communities act the same way. I cracked the code a while ago. It's because reddit is hyper propagandized with left wing propaganda that the left wing debate architecture, demonize those who disagree with you and act like a victim bleeds into every hobby now. I have even seen many cases where they accuse Marathon haters of being right wing Trump supporters. The issue is reddit not the marathon community. The entire site is comprised of left wing sociopaths who will send you a suicide prevention message that is supposed to be sent to someone actually troubled, they will send it to you because you disagree about a video game
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https://steambase.io/games/marathon/steam-charts
https://steamcharts.com/app/3065800
https://steamdb.info/app/3065800/charts/
Which is it?
Steambase is the only one that isn't similar to the other two.
Steamdb tends to be the most accurate from the three counters I normally use.
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>>742716641
>this is what happens when people align their personality and self worth to a game or media property
It is indeed. Funny how you seem to only count it when it's fans, but not the mindless haters endlessly spamming garbage about a random game they decided to make it their entire identity to hate.
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>>742696661
that's just the "rankings" being wrong, which nobody gives a shit about if you're not in the top ten (caring about your rank when it's in the 150 range is hilarious)

so their quibble is "our dogshit player numbers should have us slightly higher in the dead game range", not that their dogshit player numbers are incorrect
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>>742696898
word, also since steam shows peak concurrent for all games in the store, you can still check out how marathon pairs up with the other games...
Its listed as 246th.

Then you add in the steamdata that also shows how much revenue a game got in the last 24hours and that has marathon ranked at 400.
Its not looking good blasters
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>>742717614
>losing to duckov
lmao
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>>742717879
Duckov is great for scratching the extraction itch when I'm too lazy to get in the headset to play SPT VR or Contractors
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>>742717449
>it's hate
No it isn't, you retarded mouthbreather. Making fun of something isn't hate any more than criticizing it is.

/v/ always laughs at flops, especially ones that could be seen a mile away.
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>>742717261
Yeah its this. Even with games that are doing well, their "communties" are all full of fucking whining about how they're victims being oppressed by the game's design. They lie about everything, their reasoning behind everything. They're completely full of shit, the make demands for streamlining in every game, they lie about they're "busy adults", they just want free shit all the time, don't want to engage with games, don't want to engage with other people so they demand even multiplayer games be more 'solo friendly'.

Now of course, this retard mentality has transformed into something political somehow. Because being a fucking loser and a perpetual victim to justify what a monstrous, self-absorbed piece of shit you are is peak leftard plebbit politck.

They're all just shit bags.
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>>742717261
>suicide prevention message
what?
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>>742707341
It's astounding to me that they still cope about the extension but never once show any receipts.
Given how smug the proxy marketing outlets get, there's no way in hell these companies wouldn't provide the actual ratings to them if they were significantly better.
It would be a free win they could spin for years at the sign of any pushback.
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>>742717449
>marathon a random game
that is funny
bungie is one of the biggest gaming studios that has made amazing games for over 2 decades and now they end their long life and success with marathon, a 4 billion dollar flop
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>>742718293
On reddit you can report a user if you think they are suicidal, and they will receive a DM from Reddit with suicide hotlines and shit like that. It's just a way for someone to be an annoying prick if they don't agree with you.
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>>742697112
Kek
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>>742718449
>bungie is one of the biggest gaming studios that has made amazing games for over 2 decades
The only decent game they have ever made was Oni. Everything else was just console slop.
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>>742710328
OCE needs 20 min to find a match
their death spiral is now terminal, next comes Europe with their 10-15 min matches, and finally US.
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>>742697339
So if there's only around 2500 on Steam, that means that PC players only make up 0.25% of the players? Yeah, I don't believe it. If that isn't a complete lie, then they must simply mean people that have ever played at all.
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>>742718621
oh no not Oceania
that region is dead in every single multiplayer game
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>>742718656
The other guy is just lying or joking. Steam is the leading platform for Marathon with 70%.
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>>742699019
You're likely getting chinks in that region
t. SEA
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>>742718772
It sure wasn't at launch, just like how Europe used to get instant queues, not so much anymore lol.
Even US getting long queues outside of prime time, round and round the spiral goes. suddenly a handful of people won't be enough.
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>>742718489
is it automated and does it stop you from posting in any way? that would be pretty annoying
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>>742696661
Oh so Marathon did even worse than we thought it did.
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>>742717614
it amuses me that vicky 3 is still shit
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>>742718293
Reddit has an option next to the report button where you can send someone an automated private message if you are concerned they are suicidal and it has links to suicide prevention care. Of course the majority of the sociopath liberal fucks on the site use it as an insult if you say something they don't like. You can disable it but I leave it on as a constant reminder how disgusting and inhumane these pieces of shit are
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>>742718596
>don't recognize the name so look it up
>tiffany dover is ready to speak up after her long silence, and she wants you to hear one thing.
>"it's simple, I'm alive and well... and that's it. I hope they believe it, heh."
what a comeback to squash all those conspiracy theories. that will put an end to those, won't it?
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>>742718968
Doesn't do anything just sends you a single private message with suicide prevention care. It's pic related
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>>742718968
It's just an automated DM from Reddit itself. It doesn't do anything except being annoying.
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>>742696661
Why are the goy subhuman so mad over such specific things like Marathon and Sony discontinuing disc trays? Is this all directed by ecelebs?
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>>742696661
"daily active users" is not the same as "concurrent users". this retard doesnt even understand how to read the labels of numbers.
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>>742697263
I'm sorry but being smug about basically being so mentally ill that the only hobby you have left is logging into steam checking steam charts spamming /v/ with the images and then samefagging is not something to be proud of. This is not having fun, this is pure addiction out of desperation. Find a game you like and just stop this stupid pretense of being holier than thou.
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>>742719890
>Sony discontinuing disc trays
I have a cousin bitching about this. I asked him when was the last time he bought a physical game he said 7 years ago. I feel like this is the majority of people bitching about that
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>>742720123
Yeah, sure.
Your imaginary cousin.
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>>742697339
Sauce?
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>>742696661
>Marathon numbers are wrong
>Source? It uhhh feels wrong because I think some mijuyu game should be higher as well
The ultimate cope has been found. The RAPE has only just begun
#RapeBungie
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>>742720193
I am not a sociopath like you who needs to lie about mundane and ultimately pointless things.
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>>742717261
>left wing propaganda that the left wing debate architecture, demonize those who disagree with you and act like a victim bleeds into every hobby now.

Reminder: every accusation is a confession when dealing with the right.
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>>742703469
We got it in spades with Concord.
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Don't you think things are kind of dire if you have to talk about how one number might not be completely perfectly accurate instead of like an actual real re-portable metric from the publisher, in this case Sony, that would say otherwise?

As it is, it's not relevant to any of the three major platforms you can play it on. And as of right now I can't even find it on Steam's most played chart. Arc Raiders is at #43 with 38k players and the lowest game on the chart is Civ 5 at 15k players.
On Xbox's most played list I had to scroll all the way down to #253 to find it.
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>>742718489
>>742719351
why do they have to blow everything out of proportion? it's dumb enough to think a reddit notification is trolling people, and then you have people picking it up and running with it.
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>>742699970
>Even the official fucking reddit is doom posting
Total Bungie rape
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>>742720450
>no u
It's all leftists do. They stand for nothing anymore just "whatabout the right" when criticized.
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>>742720663
Bro they do this for everything. The moment Facebook added emoji replies to your post every left wing sociopath on the planet decided the laughing one will be a mocking insult. Even something as minor as emojis they get petty about
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>>742720324
Yep, it's not like sociopathic tendencies don't go hand in hand with Sony fanboys
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>>742721058
I don't own a console sociopath
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It's Marathover.
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>>742720956
they breed through social alienation, in-group/out-group harassment. Its why they're obsessed with censoring and isolating people, because it eventually drives desperate people to them for social validity.
Covert narc shit, they're all fucking scum. Ponzi scheme of ontological evil.
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>>742696661
Sounds like cope
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>>742721567
The moment I knew I can't relate to these retards is when I was drinking at a bar and a friend of a friend, a fat liberal woman came and started whining about Trump. Me, trying to reach a middle ground with these retards said I honestly think we are in a uni party system and there are topics like abortion and gun control and LGBT rights they use as a leash to jerk us with when they want us to fight each other. I said this trying to come up with a middle ground argument to show we are all being manipulated. You know what her response was. Something like "Yeah republicans care too much about LGBT issues I just went to a drag show kids party and it wasn't a big deal". This was one of the few times in my life I was speechless. Like I tried to argue how we are pushed to have petty and pointless arguments to keep us subdued and controlled and she responds by starting one of those arguments. I am done trying to reach a middle ground with these people and will just stop talking to them.
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>>742720123
It's not any one person's moral duty to forcibly consume physical media just so these hilariously greedy corporations may or may not keep keep it alive. Physical media has turned to complete shit over the years, especially considering modern games need to be installed onto consoles anyway, not to mention patched and updated to fix the broken state they release in.

Sure, you can argue companies are not a charity, but neither should consumers be. What Sony intends to do is effectively kill the second hand market and eliminate bargain bin prices to force everyone to buy shit according to their own pricing rules. At least consoles had that one advantage over PC, now they're going to become glorified pre-built PCs with none of the advantages of PC gaming.
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>>742697112
KEK holy cope, a little more and you will start believing you are something thats impossible for you to be, anon.
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>>742722284
It's simple the market has spoken most people want this. It's like when retards bitched about Blockbuster closing down when they stopped going there and had a Netflix account or now Best Buy might be going away and people are bitching even though they haven't stepped foot in on for years. I think millennials which I am are having a serious issue dealing with getting older and things changing. I think it just boils to that. Also we are having nostalgia for the stupidest shit oh no corporation X is going away no how about feeling bad about your neighborhood now being filled with jeets not fucking Blockbuster
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>>742716063
From talking to the few blast havers who actually played the game the biggest problem is that they kept Destiny's jew-tier loot system for a game where at best you only get to walk away with your inventory 50% of the time. You can do 20 minute Cryo runs and walk away with not even half of the value of the lowest value kit, and unlike every other extraction game that lets you buy your equipment so you can experiment with builds and take risks Marathon does the opposite in mandating a constant grind to maybe get one thing you want just to lose it, plus equipment gets class locked so there's a permanant 2/3 chance something ends up being totally useless for a build. It very literally took the worst parts of both Destiny and extraction shooters and baked it so deep into the game it can't ever be changed.
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>>742696661
>our game has incorrect charts
>interesting, what about other games?
>no just ours. ours is special case
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>>742723234
These games aren't designed to be fun they are designed for engagement. I never played Cyro but from my understand you need a bunch of RNG key cards to get to the boss. When they designed the game their thought process wasn't "is this fun" but "ok they need 7 key cards. If they die even once during this process they are back to square one. We can't have them have 7 guaranteed runs where they find these cards so lets make it so they only appear 10% of the time. Due to that there is a 300% increased risk they will get killed by another team each run that will force them to start over and increase engagement"

Extraction shooters in general are a cancer general everyone should ignore because the idea of dying to waste your time is a core gameplay mechanic.
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>>742696661
A great victory for propaganda comrades! Now we can say numbers showing reality are not real! Just like when we remove youtube dislike to push the "everyone loves new [product]"!
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>>742719328
in 2021 it was very easy to prove that you're alive but SD failed to do so

funnily in 2026 it's the opposite, actual conclusive proof is difficult, as we can see with the wraith of netanyahu still haunting computer screens across the world
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>>742696661
And today on "I can't believe this isn't satire":
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>>742723234
>>742723234
You can buy gear in marathon and you get tons of free shit and the only thing that's class specific are cores
The main problem is the maps are too small for the number of players on it and it requires you to start a match with a full set of teams
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>>742696661
>Marathon confirmed Steam Charts are fake
True, cause how the fuck are the numbers still so high?
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>>742696661
cope game won't last the year
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>>742723609
I've barely played much of any ES games beyond what friends have hoisted on me so my perspective might be off, but the ones sitting on top all seem to have some kind of system in place to mitigate the loss. A good run in Tarkov or Arc gives enough of a reward to feed plenty of future runs, so once you get good enough to feel out a map and get a few of those hauls out you don't really need to grind. Like rougelikes with banks like Shiren or Mystery Dungeon, once you have that stockpile it's relatively easy to get back what you take out but the thrill of risking it all remains. Marathon by all measures does the exact opposite with shit like those keycards and their contracts to force perpetual engagement. Bungie fundamentally doesn't understand how to make a game like this beyond whatever the suits dream up.
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>>742696661
as funny as low steam charts are Bungie have actual metrics for each platform. Yea they could be lying sure but perhaps the API is actually incorrect and should be fixed.
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>>742724324
You could possibly launch a game on Steam without Steam detecting it (such as a game that has no DRM, and you launch it without Steam running), but I doubt majority of Steam users do anything like that.
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>>742724324
If Sony were satisfied with Bungie's internal metrics they wouldn't be getting gutted like trout once a month.
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>>742724697
Or it's just broken like the OP said.
In their example. Marathon with 5k daily players are ranked 155th most played.

ZZZ with 7.5k daily players are ranked 2700th.

Clearly something is broken.
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>>742718129
So where is all the threads about the cube?
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>>742724961
As far as I'm aware, the concurrent player numbers are close to real time, but the other statistics update only every handful of hours.
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>>742725030
There's no scandal about the Gabecube except for the price, which isn't Valve's fault to begin with.
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>>742725102
And it updating only every couple of hours changes the game having more players being waaaaaay lower ranked how?
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>>742725339
I'm guessing it takes an average over the past 24 hours, that's my best guess. Go ask the Steamdb people if you want a proper answer.
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>>742725221
No the game, the cube. The big Korean mmo/extraction shooter flop. Seems to me like you are not just laughing at flops. But have based your identity around 1 specific game and are coping about the reason.
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>>742721214
Case in point.
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>>742704741
He's right. With the price of gas I can't afford to run the generator that powers the 10000 PCs I use to play Marathon in the abandoned mine I live in.
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>>742725448
yeah, my numbers was the 24 hour average. So maybe Marathon gets +100k players just in time for the count every time?

Or maybe shits just fucking broken.
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>>742720489
And we've been hunting for more Concords ever since.
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>>742725545
I've never even heard of this 'Cube' game and can't remember seeing threads about it.

>b-because you didn't know this one game that came and flopped, it means you're obsessed with Marathon!

If this is what you've been reduced to, it's time to stay out of these threads for your own mental health.
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>>742725621
Really it's better to just go to the people running this stuff, they can probably provide a better answer than anyone here.
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>>742725604
I accept your concession sociopath
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God damn why are people so invested in making this shit game happen

Just let it go
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>>742704376
If I'm reading the charts right, Marathon hasn't seen 5-digit concurrent players in about two weeks. Jesus FUCK. Remember, this is what they not only killed Destiny 2 for, but also killed/backburnered several other projects for. They didn't just bet on the wrong horse, they bet on the wrong horse at the wrong horse race.
>>742726087
brand loyalty, mostly
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>marathon floundering
>destiny 2's development stopped
>devs rushed to release one final patch with the stuff that was planned for destiny 2
>people are playing destiny 2 far more than marathon
I don't even play Destiny or Marathon, but that was pretty funny to witness
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>>742726242
It's kinda insane to me that they not only killed Destiny but fired everyone that worked on it so quickly that they have no option to call and audible and work on Destiny again.
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>>742726407
It's even more insane. There is a Destiny 2 balance patch that is needed currently in limbo because they have no one to release it. How do you not keep like 5 devs who just make sure D1 and D2 are stable? I assume what this means that they haven't admitting yet is that Destiny will go offline soon. They have delayed the final this week in destiny blog for weeks probably because it will announce this I bet
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>>742696661
holy mother of cope
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>>742724961
It seems more likely that the ranking is broken than the player counts.
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>>742726571
>officially offlining D2 hot off the heels of declaring that physical Playstation games are no more
oh my god please please PLEASE let this happen
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>>742726430
>>742726407
>>742726571
It makes perfect sense if you assume Sony has already decided they're going to close Bungie.
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>>742726853
No Bungie deserves to be punished. I want them to be a Helldivers 2 support studio. That would be the best punishment ever
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>>742727058
>Bungie should be punished
They've gone through three (or four?) rounds of layoffs, the best talent is gone, morale is at its lowest, and their one living game is a huge flop.

You'd need to relocate them to India to punish them any further.
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>sonys still pretending nobody wanted discs
Keep delaying the rope
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>>742727156
Why is this being blamed on Sony fans when Steam has been like this for decades? Explain to me without deflecting?
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>>742727242
>complains about deflection
*deflects*
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>>742696661
I feel like we need to have a serious discussion about mental asylums for redditors
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>>742727346
>can't do it
You people are mentally retarded getting mad about something you supported for decades
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>>742727417
I don't think we need any discussions.
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>>742727242
Why would I need a physical copy when I can copy my digital file 100000000 times and send it to a friend for free?
>But lega-
If you're really a moralfag you can do steam family sharing
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>>742726407
It's bizarre to me that they tried to push all onus to the layoffs on Destiny 2, a game that's been out for 10 years. Saying that it failed to meet expectations.

It's like they're banking on the CEOs to be too caught up in their yacht clubs, to look into things like player counts or consumer sales figures.

The whole thing reeks of hilarious mismanagement, and textbook gaslighting.
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>>742727573
I don't give a fuck either way I just don't why some many steam using retards have hypocritical opinions about this
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>>742696661
so marathon actually has like millions of players? holy shit
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>>742696661
So you saying the number of players is even lower.
Good to know.
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>>742727585
Sounded like that any time Bungie turned up a profit, that profit was mismanaged by the higher ups. That's fucked, but CEOs do as CEOs do.
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>>742727585
Destiny 2 paid for 7 games of which we only have seen Marathon, 2 international Bungie support studios, tons of new hires and an overpriced new Seattle office. To say it made them no money is them fucking lying out of their fucking teeth
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>>742727441
>comparing two entirely different ecosystems
>calls me the retard
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>>742727242
Steam runs on your PC which you can swap a cracked DLL and run your games offline, among other things, like running other launchers.

With the playstation you have no access to files, because the hardware is sold at a steep loss. so they make money on markup on software sold which is a different proposition entirely.
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>>742727890
I accept your concession

>>742727897
That has nothing to do with what I said
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>>742728008
If you can't understand the argument in >>742727890 that just proves you're a retard.
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>>742728008
I accept your concession
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>>742727491
Unironically, I think a lot of redditors display signs of cult brainwashing
Most of these people aren't stupid, they are smart enough to apply logic and reasoning to their everyday lives, they just choose not to

Naturally, the structure of their website creates conformity, but we really haven't had any serious studies on how long term reddit usage effects the brain, i would imagine it's not too dissimilar to brainwashing
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>>742726087
At this point it's just spite. They're not even invested in the game all that much, and it's so painfully obvious that it's dead but they'll keep coping for another couple seasons before it inevitably becomes apparent that there is no comeback in the horizon.

Marathon flopping is Bungie's greatest karma finally coming into fruition, and believe me they deserve for the ass raping that they did to Destiny.
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>>742728078
>>742728081
I accepted your concession we are good 3rd worlder. Now seethe and keep copying what I say like a 3rd world bot
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>>742728136
on the horizon*
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>>742704741
This is really, really, funny.
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>>742728136
There is a subreddit designed around the Mormon lego drama and there are still routine threads made attacking Republicans and right wingers for absolutely no fucking reason.
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>>742696661
Cope
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>>>/ribit/
Go back
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>>742696661
I love how much of a panic these shitty devs are in now.
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Marasissies, you cannot prevent our rape of Bungie. I do so enjoy your fruitless struggle, trying to prevent the inevitable. Bungie will fall. Bungie will die. You will be gaped. Normally, I would say I look forward to your next move... but we all know any move you make is pointless and just increases the size of your holes when we gape you.
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If you’re targeting the sweaty crowd, maybe don’t make your game queer-coded.
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>coping so hard he entered the shadow realm
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>>742717261
It's a side effect of the leftist insistance that everything is political. "Their" game stops being just a game, and is now a projection of their politics. If the game fails this now must mean their politics have failed, which is already baked in as an impossible state (communism doesn't fail, you fail communism). As a result, they have to turn to increasingly deranged claims as to how it either isn't actually a failure or it's the victim of a grand chudspiracy.
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>>742706413
are you fucking retarded?
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The steam charts ARE fake. They were heavily botted until recently. Remember when Marathon magically floated at 10k for 3 months and then magically floated at 25k for the f2p week? Now it's magically dropping to the realistic count. Guess they got tired of botting it.
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Just got out of a 6 hour “quick session” on Marathon and I genuinely don’t think I’ve felt this kind of design clarity in an FPS in years.
Like I know people throw around “it’s cinematic” too easily, but this is one of the few games where the systems are the story. You drop in, and within like 90 seconds you already understand the entire emotional loop: tension risk assessment panic adaptation extraction or collapse. And it never feels scripted, it’s just emergent chaos that somehow still feels fair.
The gunplay is absurdly tight in a way I didn’t expect. There’s this weight to movement that makes every corner peek feel like you’re gambling your next 10 minutes of progress, but the second-to-second aiming still feels crisp and controlled. It’s that weird balance where you’re constantly stressed but never frustrated.
Also, the audio design is doing like 40% of the emotional work. You hear distant fights and suddenly you’re second-guessing your entire route like “do I rotate through that hot zone or do I play safe and miss loot?” And half the time, playing safe is actually the wrong decision, which is kind of evil but in a good way.
What’s really getting me is how quickly the game trains you into paranoia without feeling cheap. I’ve stopped trusting “quiet areas” entirely. Even dead zones feel like they’re waiting for something to go wrong.
I don’t even know if I’m good at it yet, but I already feel addicted to the decision-making loop more than the actual wins. It’s not even about extraction success, it’s about those 30 seconds where everything is about to collapse and you somehow thread it together and get out.
This is one of those games where I can already tell I’m going to think about it when I’m not playing, which is honestly kind of dangerous.
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>>742704123
>Age of Wonders 4 that low
A shame really, it had potential to become a great game but instead it turned into another Paradox DLC platantion, that continues to add more bloat instead of improving the existing content.
Fucking sad.
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>>742697191
Bungie died for this lmao
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>>742721056
Porco rosso my man
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>>742731168
Bungie has had so many fucking chances and so much goodwill from their retarded fanbases who just kept getting fucked up the ass without lube over and over and over again.

It is only fitting that Bungie dies because of their own hubris.
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>>742722514
>It's simple the market has spoken most people want this
Used sales, lending discs or trading are not and cannot be tracked. Most people did not in fact want this. Stop being a retarded bootlicker.
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>>742696661
you are a retarded turd shill
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>>742732082
How many % of people buying it can and the market has spoken you steam using hypocrite
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>>742720065
uh oh, maratroon melty
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>>742732082
>Most people did not in fact want this
Digital sales say otherwise.
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>>742732226
>hypocrite
Are you retarded?
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>>742722514
I love how anons' peak childhood memory isn't friendship with other kids or great times spent with their parents but comsuming Blockbuster snacks and renting a game.
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>>742732872
every single one of you retards bitching about this gladly use Steam as well. I have never seen so much dishonesty and hypocrisy over a topic posted here than this and that says a fucking lot.
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why didn't xhey save the game?
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>>742732728
They really don't. People were still buying physical discs and the leak from Insomniac proves Sony's own first party titles were even selling more physical than digital, or around the same.

And again, one of the great advantages of physical media is that you can lend, trade or give it away as you wish. Those exchanges cannot be tracked, so I don't understand why you spineless cucks keep resorting to muh market like you're the retarded investors themselves and not consumers standing up for your own interests.
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>>742732984
>every single one of you retards bitching about this gladly use Steam as well
Pretty much.
They bitch because they hate Sony and all-digital Sony gave them an excuse to shit on the company.
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>>742732984
Retard, there's no dishonesty or hypocrisy, you dumb fucking shill. I never intended to go back to Playstation because their entire console and ecosystem became trash compared to alternatives (and they're about to become EVEN WORSE now without physical media).

You really are not understanding that physical media was one great advantages consoles have had that literally countless millions of people took advantage of. That is the OPPOSITE of dishonesty, that is me recognizing a blind spot that PC gaming has had for several years.

But now that is going away, and all you're left with is more direct competition with far better services that exist on multiple platforms.
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>>742733242
>They bitch because they hate Sony and all-digital Sony gave them an excuse to shit on the company
Cry me a river, you fucking faggot. Keep defending the multi-billion corporation.
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>>742733236
>lend
/v/ is full of stories about how they lent their favorite games and never got them back.

>trade
Gamestop became a parasite empire thanks to it.
>People bought a game for $60
>Traded it for Gamestop, getting $5 for that same game
>Then Gamestop sold it to some guy for $30, earning a 250% profit while doing Jack shit
>The original buyer brags about being able to resell his games, when at the end he spent $55 and has no game to show
>Also, stories of parents giving away thousands of dollars of games in exchange for a couple bucks while anon was away

>or give it away
Why would you give away something you paid $60 for? Also
>Stories of parents giving away thousands of dollars of games in exchange for nothing while anon was away.
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>>742733661
>hypocritical 3rd worlder bitching about discs going away as he continues to support Steam
You are a disgusting subhuman piece of shit and we would be better off as a collective if you killed yourself
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>>742733784
>/v/ is full of stories about how they lent their favorite games and never got them back.
Okay? Are you suggesting that freedom of speech should not be allowed because some people may abuse it? [insert list of other personal rights and freedoms that can go wrong]
>Gamestop
Never cared about GS. There were always other stores in my area.
>Why would you give away something you paid $60 for?
Why not? Maybe to a relative or a close friend. It's my choice, nigger. And that's something you don't have with digital.
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>>742733936
I'm going to watch Ponies kill themselves instead as they hilariously try to compete with better digital storefronts.
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>>742734225
Genuinely sick of having to deal with you brown 3rd worlders who lack any shame or honesty
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>>742734329
Suck my cock, faggot. How about you relay that message to your corporate masters?
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>>742734435
>muh dick muh dick
>other corporation bad my corporation good
holy shit thats all you 3rd world brown people think about
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>>742734135
My point is that your freedom of choice only benefit others, not you. You're bragging about losing $60 every time
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I can't respect the pro-physical side because they never argue about being able to own a game they love and being able to play it any time they want while the big corp can't do anything about it; they just want the "privilege" of giving it away to Gamestop (or any other physical store) and being paid cents (in store credits, of course).
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>>742735280
>My point is that your freedom of choice only benefit others, not you
>You're bragging about losing $60 every time
What is this incoherent rambling? Did this sounded smart in your head?

If you don't wish to give your shit away, then fucking don't. The point is you have a choice, you goddamn moron.

You are literally arguing against personal freedoms and rights, and instead opting for the walled off ecosystem where you have zero control over anything you paid money for.

AGAIN

This USED to be one of the advantages consoles had over PC, but not anymore.
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>>742734626
>muh 3rd world muh 3rd world
Really not helping your case there, you dim-witted fuck.
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>>742735837
>3rd worlder replies with a low IQ no u
every time
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>>742735670
>they just want the "privilege" of giving it away to Gamestop
Speaking of dishonesty, that's a strawman argument you've came up with.
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>>742735892
>3rd worlder
But I don't play on consoles anymore.
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>>742735702
>Did this sounded smart in your head?
Yes, because it's how it is. All your argument about ownership revolves around simply giving away those games at the first chance, never about keeping something you paid money for.

I wouldn't be surprised if you are one of those speculators who demand thousands of dollars for a game because some company said it was Category 10. Of course you're going to be mad about an all-digital future while never defending actual "I don't want to trade / resell / lend" ownership.
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>>742706613
This game is only popular in Japan
It already relaunched once or twice and shitty live-service games never recover from big fuck ups so not surprised with the 7k players
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>>742731137
Age of wonders is shit because no matter what you do or how you play every single faction and spell books feel exactly the same, you always make some custom faction and imagine how cool the RP will be playing them but then you play the game for a few hours and realize it means fuck all and is all the same.
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>>742735997
correct you are on PC and naturally are dishonest and don't care about being dishonest. Peak brown 3rd worlder
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>>742696661
>Supreme Marathon cope
D E L I C I O U S
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>>742736073
>Yes, because it's how it is
No, that's not how it is. You're a slimy weasel cunt twisting my words at every opportunity.

What I'm arguing for is choice. You can choose to lend, trade, or give away your shit. OR not.

What your argument boils down to is that it's better if there's no choice AT ALL.

>I wouldn't be surprised if you are [headcanon]
More pretentious drivel and idiotic ad hominem over an absurdly simple idea that any regular person would be able to understand.
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THE COPE IS HAVING A BLAST
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>>742696661
Lying in the OP for (You)s? Prostitutes are more respectable than you.
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>>742736262
>correct you are on PC and naturally are dishonest and don't care about being dishonest. Peak brown 3rd worlder
Nice banter, Snoygger.
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>>742720065
Oh, I like Marathon, it's just there are so few players it takes an eternity to find a match so I have loads of time to post here.
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>>742698374
For me it was the excessive
>The vibe shift is crazy!!!!!!!
shilling when there had obviously not been a vibe shift
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>>742725739
there have been like four concords since then
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>>742698059
>Most online games are dead as fuck in OCE
it' the canary in the coalmine
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>>742736545
You are a hypocritical 3rd worlder what you say doesn't matter. You have no sense of morals or anything all you care about is lying and cheating.
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>>742736243
Fucking THIS.
Needing everything to be balanced as to not be too OP nor too weak is stupid, but the games flaws don't stop there, every race is just a skin, they can have the same exact stats and traits, and the fact that diplomacy is so limited and the AI is moronic ruins any potential for RP.
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>>742736372
>twisting my words at every opportunity
I'm not. You're the one who kept harping about how physical games only exist to be traded and given away, as shown by your next sentence:
>What I'm arguing for is choice. You can choose to lend, trade, or give away your shit. OR not.
With that last Or Not only being added to hide your true intentions.
And it's not just you; every single physicalfag says the same.

I have external hdds with pirated versions of all my favorite games. I care about genuine ownership more than the average physical "gonna trade your shit bro; why keeping that disk in your shelf when you can trade it??????" zealot.
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>>742736884
Yep they should have hammered in on the faction RP and made balance secondary to making the game feel fun and like your choices mattered.
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>>742736913
>how physical games only exist to
That's not my argument. I said that people having the choice to do as they please with they physical media is one of the advantages consoles have had over PC.
>With that last Or Not only being added to hide your true intentions.
Yeah, you are a fucking retard.
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>>742737146
*with their
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>>742736872
>what you say doesn't matter
Feel free to leave any time, lil gup. Go back to your Ponystation.
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>>742737146
>Yeah, you are a fucking retard
Doubt it. I'm not the one trading several $60 games in exchange for $10 Gamestop store credit and acting smug over it.
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>>742737317
No I am participating in this thread for the actual topic 3rd worlder you are stuck here with me
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>literal months later and this bitchnigger still at it failing to convince anon that the vidya on his SSD is not ownership
lol
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>>742737387
You're making shit up in your head again, schizo. Didn't I just tell you about I don't care about GS? Where I am from, I've never at any point visited any of their stores for the purpose of trading trading used games, so your attempt at a gotcha is completely lost on me.
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I want them to kill this game. It's a fucking stain and the future benefits from forgetting it existed.
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>>742698059
That's true but not for reasons you think it is. Apex for example is heavily played but nobody plays on the OCE servers only NA because the game allows it and why wouldn't you play on the higher pop servers
>but Asia
all cheaters.
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>>742739872
And just to add the death of OCE servers (company managed) is because of chinks playing on OCE and cheating constantly.
Australia was fantastic right up to early 2010s when ISPs directly hosted game servers. Now you own nothing and basically fuck you.
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>>742696661
>the steamcharts are broken
>proofs? well the chinese gacha game that has had its own launcher for 5 years only has 7000 people on steam
sure bud
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The real tragedy in all of this is marathon is probably the best shooter ive ever played, all these people will never experience what i did because it didn't have a tutorial for shitters and there was a bunch of gay external drama.
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>>742697191
UH OH UH OH
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>>742741216
It's mid at best. It just doesn't work as an extraction shooter.
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>>742696661
>SteamDB is so accurate to a fault that Tim fucking Sweeny hired the original developer back when he was still creating Epic Game Store in order to analyze which companies/games to try and poach with EGS exclusivity* contracts and free game giveaways
>"Uhm uh ackchually you're not supposed to believe SteamDB, just believe in your heart of hearts that this one fucking game in particular is actually doing way better than what's being reported please listen and believe"
Nintendo "insiders" on twitter and troonsky are more believable than this.
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>>742741546
The only problems the game has is that theres no way for new players to learn the game without being raped into the ground. I wouldn't change a thing about it otherwise.
Are there even any other games out there that give you the cryo experience? (5 teams in a huge labyrinth puzzle room?)
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>>742741216
>is probably the best shooter ive ever played,
extremely shit taste
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>>742741216
You should probably play more shooters.
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>>742741216
>The real tragedy in all of this is marathon is probably the best shooter ive ever played
the last 3 nights ive been playing with one of the tranniest from my work and one of their friends, like 60-90min each night and i can only think of 1 interaction that was anywhere near a team fight, everything else we either exfilled without seeing another living soul or got ganked out of a jew corner so where is the shooting bro? the npcs?
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>>742741216
>The real tragedy in all of this is marathon is probably the best shooter ive ever played

This. All it needed were the world and mmo elements of Destiny and no other game would be able to touch it for years.
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>>742696661
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>>742743253
The only good shooters are R6, Fortnite, Marathon, and MWII. The end.
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>>742745345
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>>742745478
What's better lil bro? Apex with it's 26 story zipline building shootouts? Overwatch and Rivals where you hold down the heal button?

Don't EVER question OG taste. You think that's opinion when it's fact.
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Marathon defenders type with one hand with the other one on their willie
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>>742696661
cope of the highest order
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>>742745705
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>>742741750
>The only problems the game has
It's ugly as fuck and unappealing to a wider audience. Even exfil aficionados are not touching it anymore. Stop pretending like you have some hidden hardcore gem on your hands, Bungo.
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>>742696661
I see we are at bargaining now.
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>>742745736
>with the other one on their willie
I doubt they even have one. The only cock they possess is Sony's ramming their prostates.
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>>742746070
Oh sorry bro I forgot you only play Baldur's Gate 2 and DMC3 I'm sorry man I know you don't play garbage games just forgive us
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>>742741750
Cryo is the best multiplayer map I've ever played. I dropped Marathon, but that's still a fact.
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>>742696661
>The player count didn't rise when season two released, is this because the game fucking sucks?
>No, it must be steamdb showing the wrong numbers for this one game on purpose!
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>>742746274
>Player count == game quality

job steamie
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>>742746206
Ok, I accept your apology thank you
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I cannot believe how insane Marathon shills are.
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>>742746397
If new content failed to bring in any new people then yes, it's bad.
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>>742696661
My uncle works at Nintendo and said that Marathon has over 5 million daily players
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>>742746259
>I dropped Marathon
womp womp
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>>742746615
I ain't playing Bungie's stupid fucking 600 hour seasonal grind to fight a boss
>womp womp
Jesus
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>>742746456
That's the reality of extraction shooters. The current loop is too punishing for mass appeal.
>But Arc R-
That's because Peanut is behind that and Arc got into the market first.
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>>742696661
>using steamdb
>not steamcharts
>claiming steam is lying about how many users are in their game
this data is provided by valve and scraped by these sites
its accurate, you can just go look at the number on steam and see how many users it has.
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>>742746915
It's the standard playbook.

>it's been debunked! We fact checked!
Everyone has consistently been talking about concurrent players. Post in the screencap is about daily players, which frankly literally nobody on earth cares about.
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>>742746840
>for mass appeal.
how about marathon try beating like 10 other extraction shooters first then you can worry about mass appeal
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>>742696661
Of course it's not accurate. It doesn't count console players but regardless it doesn't have to be accurate. It just has to be in the ball park, which I believe it does. I don't give a shit if it's 15,000 or 9,000. That's still close when considering hundreds of thousands.
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>>742696661
>GUYS, we are so excited to announce that the website that paints us in a bad light is fake! It's all wrong and the game that
>No one talks about,
>No one plays,
>Had no cultural impact,
>And the studio that made it had mass layoffs
>...Is totally and completely wrong and actually breaking sales records and the hype has never been higher! Invest and play in confidence! #letsplaymarathon #dadsofmarathon #implayingitanyway
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>>742712507
>It is well known after season 2 90% of the players are on PS5

Source?
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>>742742343
You've never played any of those games you just saved the webm someone else posted, its not representative if the teamfights at all. But you know this.
>>742743253
I've played them all, what are some better shooters you think?
>>742744363
Yeah you're playing a dead game, i started in season 1 will full lobbies and it was great.
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>>742750194
ALL of them?
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>>742750194
>its not representative if the teamfights at all.
wall hack scan, nade spam, run-slide while shooting anything that moves since you dont really have to aim, did miss anything? oh yea one class is a fag w/stealth
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>>742750194
>, its not representative if the teamfights at all.
the point is to show the shooting is the same in all FPS slop
>but muh hero abilities and equipment!!!!
most FPS games has gadgets, and some even have hero abilities too
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There isn't enough people on the map to call it an arena shooter and too many to really call it a loot and exfil type game
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>>742696661
You mean player count is even lower?!
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>>742730876
yeah it will be on your mind when it inevitably closes
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>>742741216
sulfur blows it out of the water
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>>742747429
>drumpf was wrong about 68% of something
>67.89% of something
they always do this
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>>742741216
>good shooter is when you have aim assist as an upgradable stat
Why are bungietroons like this?
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>>742696661
Kek, someone so butthurt over low player numbers that they investigate other websites instead of making the game better
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>>742745163
The player count is dwindling faster than usual. Are the holdouts finally giving up?
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>>742704186
This is a really good post, Anon
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>>742737042
That's retarded. People who play 4x games do not play for RP purposes, as you can see from how much the Warhammer 3 community hates the story content developed for that game. People play for emergent stories which they themselves make with their IMAGINATION, not whatever some game writer thinks is dramatic or compelling.
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>>742704741
>talk about the war on Iran in the marathon sub you guise!!!
BWAHAHAHAHA
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>>742720637
Civ 5 so fucking good. Love to see it
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>>742704186
I am stealing this
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>>742696661
>SteamDB numbers are fake
>long queue times are fake
>people complaining about not finding a match are fake
>people playing anything else than Marathon are fake
>just play Marathon, goy
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>>742760607
>That's retarded. People who play 4x games do not play for RP purposes
You are either retarded or ESL
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>>742696661
>Extended research
>Plebit post
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>>742697112
This
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Lmao
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>>742697065
>I always thought something shady was up when the game clearly stabilized at 10k users ans now we're at 7k while a fucking sale is happening
Everyone who wanted to try it already did.
Some people fell off.
People who didn't care about it won't jump in because they can save $2 when much better games are also on sale.

And the big one:
>nobody has a single friend who is playing it
>thus, they have no reason to even consider it
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>>742696661
Steamchart threads on /v/ are pathetic garbage, but this reddit post is somehow even worse.
This is some next level copium and mental gymnastics for..... what? This is a real life version of that meme from IASIP with the investigation board.

I pitty these people.
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sub 2k is getting close bros
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>>742741216
the real tragedy is your parents disowning you for cutting your dick off
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>>742766325
OOOOOOOOH
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>>742766945
debunked in the OP
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>>742766973
nah, op is talking about a different list, it didn't claim anywhere that the concurrent players number is wrong
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>>742766945
These numbers are FAR from sustainable for a company like Bungie that still has 400-500 employees in Bellevue, WA where the average wage is $100k/year.

There's 100% going to be another big round of layoffs within the next few months.
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>>742696661

you're a faggot, OP
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>>742697339
Don't let the haters get you down marathonCHAD, game sold a maramillion copies and has two maramillion concurrent players THIS VERY SECOND
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>>742767631
they'll shart out season 3 in september (it'll be a nothingburger) then shut the game down by the winter
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>>742696898
Stop it anon. Let the BlastHavers save marathon.
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>>742731220
reminds me of that into the wind game from SGF, hopefully it won't be a flop despite the chibi direction they're taking
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>>742706613
>Game is popular on Mobile
>Game has had a PC launcher for over a year before Steam so not everyone bothers
It seems low I guess but there's no real reason to play on Steam.
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sometimes i wonder what compels 'people' to post nonesense like this or even be interested in it at all. i sleep better by accounting it to bots and dead internet theory.
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>>742698073
>soon
we already there
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>>742696661
So it's actually lower than reported? Kek! Trannies on double suicidewatch
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>>742746259
Doubt it
Probably no different from doing a deepstone crypt run for the first time in destiny 2
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>>742741216
have you ever tried playing Destiny?
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>>742720065
>calling anyone mentally ill when you are obsessed over what people think of your dead game
lel
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>steamdb numbers are wrong because my feelings tell me so
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>>742750194
>You've never played any of those games
Neither did you
Cryo is 4 teams not 5
Matches don't start without a fixed amount of players, there's no such thing as "full lobby"
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whoa
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hello saars! the marathon is DOA and slopped like a flop!
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>>742696661
the steamdb concurrents numbers are literally visible on steam itself, directly from valve lol
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>>742772118
>its dead, its dead, ITS DEAD YOU BLOODY BITCH!
>4 months pass
>its dead, its...
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I'm still having a blast
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>>742776374
Not doing great!
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Total maratroon death
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>>742696661
>Steam Charts
>actually if you go down to Daily Active Users you see rankings.....

troll thread.
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>>742778819
It's just making fun of the Marathon subreddit.
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>>742698374
Nothing's really wrong with it per se, having played the beta it's just painfully average and uninspired. Though I'm biased towards thinking extractionshit is a shit genre anyway. If they wanted to release something like this to much more fanfare they should've held on to the Halo IP for dear life and made an extraction game set in that universe instead or hell just do it with Destiny.
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>>742696661
Talk about a motherfucking cope, damn.
And is every fuckin' subbreddit controlled by Tranitors to put fag flags everywhere?
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>>742770654
When I read that humans can be counted as bots if they have no critical thinking skills and only follow one franchise because they are literally incapable of following another one everything started making sense.
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Well if steamcharts are fake why not let users access the playercount API like they do with destiny?
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>>742782767
Silence, chud, Marathon is Sony's property now, they are not obligated to show you the real numbers at all
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Why are they still trying to cope after so much time?
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>>742704958
interesting
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>>742782941
yeah its been 4 months and chuds still think the game is shutting down
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>>742783646
Looks shut down to me lmao
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>>742776484
Kek, i snorted.
Maratroon on suicide watch.
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>>742720065
>that the only hobby you have left
He had to resort to strawmans arguments to justify his absolute meltdown. It's ok, maybe the next quarter billion dollar game by Bungie will be better.
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>>742783884
>chuds have to imagine that the game finally shut down for good
uh oh
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>>742783646
>ackshually, the game is still alive
>just forget that the player numbers sit between 2-5k all day and then have 2-3 hours of peaks with 6-7k players
>those are very healthy numbers for a studio with 500 employees
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>>742730503
This. Everything is an "us vs them" battle. Shit can't just suck because it's a dogshit game.
Or let's say the people against Marathon are all absolute far right chuds that hate the game because they hate gays or women or minorities or something.
Instead of saying "well you're retarded, but the game is still shit", they feel as though by defending the multi-billion dollar corporation's product, they're "STICKING IT TO THE CHUDS" when they're just corporate lapdogs.
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>trans athletes are heckin valid chud the data said so the science is real
>u-unless i dont like the data then its bullshit…
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>>742784264
>game is such a horrible failure that its still running several months later
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>>742784506
They literally just fired 300 people from Bungie because Sony doesn't trust them to make anything else after Marathon's flop. And they are likely about to fire another 300 within the next 2 months once the reality kicks in for Sony that Marathon is not going to have any kind of redemption arc.

Season 2 was already meant to be the "this will bring back players" update. Once season 3 rolls out and the numbers continue to fall, I would be very surprised if Marathon doesn't either go into complete maintenance mode or just outright gets shut down.
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>>742784506
>The patient may be braindead but the body has a pulse! Take that!!!
I fucking love you retards.
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>>742784821
Yeah, they fired the 300 Destiny dead weights they had
The marathon team is still full and expanding according to recent posts showing hiring offers
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>>742696995
Isn't Zenless Zone Zero a fucking mobile game?
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>>742784921
>The marathon team is still full
Objectively wrong, considering that they also laid off like 30-40 people that were working on Marathon, including people who would do stuff like story and cinematics, which is an indicator that Marathon won't have any more big stuff coming other than what's already in the pipeline and nearly done.
>and expanding according to recent posts showing hiring offers
Show a link.
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>>742784821
>they just fired 300 people
only like 12 of those were actually from the marathon team. which is a 3% layoff from the original 400+ team. kek
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>>742785014
Open wide
>>742775542
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>>742784864
>the game is dead, it just needs to be put down finally
How many more months until this cope stops?
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>>742785120
>the game isn't dead. it's just a conspiracy by steam!
How many more months until this cope stops?
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>>742785071
Oooooof you owned that chud
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>>742784958
Yes, anyone interested in gachas had started playing this years ago on their phone
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>>742785305
Big corpos are not charities.
If Marathon was doing so horribly, they would have done more than lay 10 people off from their team.
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>>742783884
lmao
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>>742785071
>>742785326
>they're looking for 1 (ONE) person to unfuck their clusterfuck UI/UX
This is what you meant by "Bungie is hiring, so Marathon is actually alive and well"? Sad.
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Whoa, where did all the bots go?
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will we make it until the end of the year, marabros?
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>>742786337
Yes but only because Sony preemptively paid for it to do so. But I don't see it surviving far (if at all) into the new year.
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>>742784506
>>742785120
IDK anon, would you consider Mitch McConnell to still be able to perform in the senate despite being a medical vegetable? They haven't pulled the plug, so surely that means he's healthy, right?

>>742785071
That job posting has been up for at least two months, you mong.

>>742786337
Marathon will last until Sony decides the reputational damage from admitting it flopped (and that the Bungie purchase was a failure) is greater than the amount of money they're pouring into the ditch to keep this flop game alive.
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People forget that apart from this and Helldivers, Sony literally has nothing else trickling in money right now so they NEED to keep this on life support by every means necessary.
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>>742788261
Anon, even after the layoffs, Bungie still costs Sony $3 to $4m a month in salaries alone. Marathon is probably making some piddly amount of revenue, but with peaks of 7k and falling, it damn sure isn't anywhere near enough to cover their operating costs.
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>>742786021
Oh I see. This sudden drop from stable 10K to stable 7.5K is because they turned off bots. Every maintaince was 3K online everytime, now it's just 500. Someone turned off 2.5K bots.



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