Deltarune>Your dad divorced and missing>Your mom drunk and depressed>childhood friend wants to make a suicide pact>cute tomboy friend addicted to heroine escapism drugs and secluded in a school closetCan it get any worse for Kris?
>>742714435He knows the prophecy and is a co-conspirator with the ShelterGangLiterally all his problems are self inflicted
>>742715121It was all for good reasons. He was trying to help his friend.
>>742715607You're rightBut he still the conspirator of everything he suffers
>>742714435>The one person he could connect with is a flower that would die if he met her again.
>>742714435Sure>Asriel not coming home>His mom gets kidnapped next>Rudy (probably closest thing Kris has to a godfather) actually bites it>Carol (closest thing Kris has to a godmother) going even more off the rails now that just about her entire family is destroyed. Possibly something bad happening to her>He fails his school project!
Noelle!
>>742714435You could have had it all, you stupid son of a bitch. But you just had to blow it up! You and your Knight, and your ego! You just had to be the they.
>>742714435I want to have sex with the mantis women
>>742716091She should've been an enemy.
>>742714435it could always get a little worse
dess is a human, kris summoned a demon and traded their own soul for dess', she used to explore the dark worlds with asriel (the statue in susie's room) but died or lost her soul due to the prophecy. the question is where is kris' soul now?
>>742716086It's likely more just Kris pushing Noelle away to protect her. His broken dream timeline is him being happy with Noelle
>>742714435heyI also hate his guts
>>742716091i wish people drew bug women more buglike
>>742716091What does that have to do with kris's suffering?
>>742716086Isn't Noelle the Knight pushing Kri around, though? Knight has undeveloperd wings acting as his shoulder pads. Who else can be associated with antlers and angel wings?
>>742714435He knows the full prophecy and is most likely doing everything he can to keep Noelle out of the story.
>>742714435He must suffer in order to become this game's Oersted.
>>742714435All his fault btw
>>742716357Kris?
>>742716374Dess
>>742716086I will never forgive gaster for ruining a perfectly good childhood friend love story
My theory for Side C and the "true ending" of Deltarune.Everybody in the game has been hiding shit from Noelle to protect her, or forcibly strengthening her (Side B)But in Side C (twisted sword?), she finally gets the chance to choose for herself.And she chooses to fight for everyone she loves and who love her.That's the final boss, Noelle fighting the source of the prophecy.But that's also the thing, you won't control Noelle in battle as the soul. Your party lineup is still Kris / Susie / Ralsei working together to back her up.And yeah, I think they win. I think they all get to live. Even Ralsei.And, yes. I think Noelle will finally get to see December again.I don't know if December will survive. But I think they will have a moment. Where Dess can say sorry for missing her grow up. Explain she never wanted to abandon her. And Noelle have the chance to forgive her.And then, yes. I'm going to dare to fucking say it. I am going to dare to fucking believe.I believe Kris and Susie will finish their school project.
>>>/vg/
>>742716174Dess being the actual Frisk/Chara parallel with the red soul while Kris is patience would be cool even if very, very unlikely.
>>742716086>You and your Knight, and your ego! You just had to be the they. Everything Kris does is to protect Noelle. There's no other choice. He'll have to be distant until all this mess is over.
>>742714435>>Your dad divorced and missing>>Your mom drunk and depressed>>childhood friend wants to make a suicide pact>>cute tomboy friend addicted to heroine escapism drugs and secluded in a school closetAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>742714435Susie doesn't know about him working with the knight. Yet.
>>742714435Everyone deserves to have a happy ending. Even that complete autistic fuckup that no one likes and ruins everything he touches.>But enough about Berdly.
>>742714435he will get trapped in void alone and no one will bat an eye since kris will be forever forgotten
why are deltarune threads allowed but 2hu threads get deleted instantaneously?
the face of a man who knows what every vagina in hometown feels like
>>742716938because you have an entire containment board >>>/jp/
>susie's magic becomes much higher after the gerson fight>her stats get reset in chapter 5>susie probably forgot everything gerson tried to teach her by nowBRAVO TOBY
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MzEHcwoNlbE&pp=ygUXZGVsdGFydW5lIGNoYXB0ZXIgNSBvc3Q%3D
Can someone qrd me on this Gaster Pirate shit? Is it just some OC or is there something in ch5 about it?
>>742716938I dunno
>>742717013lake = water/oceanparrot follower vessel = boat/shipits just a shitpost because people have nothing else to really talk about
>>742717013NormalNPC is a parrot. That's it.
>>742717001>m
happy for her
So if the next chapter takes place in the hospital, and in the weird route we put Berdly in the hospital, and if it's Noelle who creates the dark fountain there, then...
*Can it get any worse for Kris?*Can it get any worse for Kris?*Can it get any worse for Kris?
What does it mean that Kris & Susie have the inner light that can save this world? As long as they stay together?There MUST be a happy ending possible, right?
>>742717013people have concocted a retarded theory about NormalNPC (the blue bird character with tech neck) which states that he murdered onion because of some shit about the gaster agenda. pirates have birds, 1 + 1 = 2
>>742717180it means they are literally in possession of the red soul (even if susie doesn't realize it)
>>742716031>Wrong hole!>I didn't say stop
>>742716867>kris ending up in a situation worse than tatsuyai don't want that tobert pls don't
>>742717169Come here, I have a job for you.
>>742714435It can't get worse but it can get better though
Fact: there is no explanation as to how the knight carried Undyne and Asgore. Toby never thought it about it. The story will end and it will never even be brought up.
>>742717180Because they're lightners.
>>742717169According to this?Yes, things will only get WORSE
>>742717320The black shard doesn't change in the light world. So it's theorized that the armor retains its shape and its powers too, but only at night.
>>742714435thats easy, all gaster needs to do is give us our vessel back.
>>742716867>>742717265"Kris" is going to perish.He doesn't have his own soul anymore.His body is just a corpse that still has determination.
do you think there'll be a use for the pure crystal beyond the twisted sword?
>>742717320Susie was able to carry a TV on her head from toriels house to the school.
>>742717137>goes from being Dio Brando reference to a moeshit character Actual downgrade Mad Dummy is funnier when he was, you know, he was Mad DummyToby really should've made Mew Mew a separate character instead. No need to drag Mad Dummy and ruin his appeal
>>742717506yeah
>>742717180>YOU WANT IT. YOU WANT [[Hyperlink Blocked]], DON'T YOU.>WELL HAVE I GOT A DEAL FOR YOU!!>ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS SHOW ME.>YOUR [[HeartShapedObject]].>YOU'RE LIGHT neR< AREN'T YOU?>YOU'VE GOT THE [[LIGHT.]] WHY DON'T YOU [[Show it off?]]
>>742717320It's bigger and stronger than them.What is there to explain?
>>742717506You'll probably be able to look through it and see something crazy
Toby Fox doesn't even know the Knox rules exist. he doesn't have the qualifications to write a mystery.
>>742717492I'll sacrifice myself to make sure Kris survives and lives a happy life.
the Queen of /v/
>>742717160You would get something very verybasednow I'm excited for the chapter 6 with fallen down Berdly and Rudy
>>742716357>have sex>Get your head eatedAllegory
>>742717525give her new body a few knife attacks and she'd be a perfectly fine sakuya parody
>>742717320A Flower's dream has more resistance than some puny police officers
>>742717637Hey buddy, you skipped one.
Ralsei or bust
>>742717320>the knight possesses immense power in the dark>the knight kidnaps people into the bunker when it's dark outside It is not a stretch to say that at night the Knight can maintain its powers temporarily in the light world.
>>742717637What's Knox's 5th?
>>742716652Nostalgia Route = Kriselle = Trying to get things like it was, keeping Tenna, fixing Asgore with Toriel, choosing Hometown over dark world and sacrifice Castle Town to fulfill the prophecy,Moving on Route = Krusie = building new future against any prophecies but also choosing life over escapism. Prophecy is denied, but dark world intact, yet mostly abandoned to seek friends with Susie in Hometown and later in College as they start dating. Asgore moves on with Maddie, Toriel with SansThe Escapism Route= Kralsei = The prophecy is defeated and Darkners lives with Lightners in harmony, Kris lives in fantasy world with Ralsei and teaches him to enjoy life the way he wantsI can see it. Only those are the actual real routes. PizzerinaxPizza Pants hinted at 3 roads with Catty, Bratty and Nicecream. The Deltarune symbol also consist of all 4 of them. That mean there will be no Catti or Berdly routes.
>>742717735Ralsei... bust...
>>742716990her heartbeat anon! But Noelle's heartbeat will surely help avert the prophecy
>>742717780GOAT PUSSY
>>742717681official unofficial art I see
Maybe Noelle could be cured of her mental illness if you just took her on a weekend trip somewhere with a carHell maybe book a flight to another country during summer vacation
Imagine the super powered sex
>>742717752Chinese people can't be the culprit because it's too obvious
I hope you niggas are ready for Hometown to be revealed as the Schrödinger’s cat (Toby is a huge weeb)The prophecy will keep repeating until Gaster is satisfied
>>742717525Nah. It being a cute girl is MUCH better than a forgettable midboss.
>>742717820You could do that if hometown was a normal town. If there was anything beyond the trees.
What if you guys are hyping up everything and Carol is the Knight, There is no Gaster, and there actually was no crazy plot twist Toby is hiding
>>742717360I can't wait for Eggman to show up in chapter 7!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvERHiTfx9w
5 knights at Ice's
>>742717852With each thrust the whole universe cracks.
>>742717320The Knight is a Titan that gained a soul and became conscious and compact
neat
>>742717360wait...is this real
>>742717854So Kris can't be the culprit
why did this chapter teased so much shipping? specially kris and ralsei
>>742717506I'd assume it plus the shadow mantle will be needed to craft the sky mantleAlso player angel will be found dead in the ditch if that's the case
>>742717852About that sex, Asriel...
>>742717320It makes sense if they have an accomplice outside. Dess can't leave the dark world in her current state but Rudy decked out in black shard gear definitely can. You never actually see the knight leave, there's that weird transition of chasing after them in part three where Susie says they can't see anything before they get out into the real world and you see the tail end of the knight carrying off Undyne Rudy is the knight you see in 5 who acts completely different complete with weird bubble power never used before and also unskilled enough to be chased right into a fucking wall. It'll all make sense trust the plan and what another year.
>>742717936>There is no GasterThere IS Gaster, and his theme is blatant in ANOTHER HIM and Scarlet Forest The real question, is the name "Gaster" present anywhere in Deltarune's code?
>>742717657(you) do not have a sayKris is already a corpse and the [device] keeping his animate isn't yours
>>742717001https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSU0w7KwRIwI instantly recognized it from this guy.
>>742718006>it's real>There isn't an easter egg for Sans or any of Toby's bigger characters.Someone at DDG is a confirmed fluffy boy lover.
>>742717675You can abort weird route in chapter 5, right? It'll just continue as normal in chapter 6, right!? NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE HOSPITAL AND CASTLE TOWN RIGHT!?!?!?!?
>>742718054Erm AKTUALLY its pic related
>>742717637Knox is more of suggestions than rules per-se. In fact, most rules in writing should be broken if it makes sense for them to be broken. Twin Peaks breaks almost of these rules and it's one of the best mysteries ever written.
Thoughts on N-time's theory?
>>742717993>Current Knight>Asgore after the sacrifice>Undyne after the sacrifice
>>742717637Who is "the Detective" in this story?
>>742718123The game resets if you try to name your file or your vessel GASTER so I would think so.
>>742718209What is that
>>742718054Anyone got Deltarune version of pic related? It had Asriel and RudyI remember seeing it posted in these threads a while ago
>>742718245I want more traditionalist Aqua now. Have her tell Ralsei to put on some pants.
>>742717917IVE SEEN OUTSIDE HOMETOWN, KRISTHERES NOTHING THERE.
>>742717820Kris could fix her. If only he hadn't kept his distance. In Chapter 4, during the Weird Route, Kris decides to break his own rule and visit Noelle without us at night to comfort her. Noelle was so happy to see Kris that she burst into tears.
>>742718054Asriel mistaking the people he likes to randoms is a normal Asriel occurrence.
>chapter 6>susie so lost to dark world escapism that she outright refuses to leave castle town until ralsei says that he's detected a fountain (outside of roping noelle into it)>light world exploration segment is kris and noelle>try to leave the hospital>noelle excuses herself to go sit by rudy for a minute>kris shoves you into something in the empty lobby>kris comes back and puts you back in>noelle comes back, seemingly excited>trying to enter the hallway again gives you a "you felt like you should come back here later">ralsei is pissed when the two of them go back to castle town>kris made a dark fountain in the empty room while noelle made one in rudy's room.>both of them leaked into the hallway and lobby, which made an extremely fucked up and incoherent dark world since the splinters are from two different fountain lights.
My vessel is called John, my name is not even John, I just think it's funny
>>742718245If Aqua is supposed to be Kris does this mean Kris was a chud?
>>742717637>>742718241The detective is the Soul (YOU) The perpetrator is Kris
>>742714435I would solve all his problems with my sheet determination if only this little fucker wasn't getting in my way every two steps.
>>742718204>Twin Peaks breaks almost of these rules and it's one of the best mysteries ever written.Its not a mystery though its a soap opera with some paranormal spooky stuff
>>742718127With DETERMINATION, I can do anything.
>>742715937Aqua isn't a solution.It's a promise if what would be if he just fucks the deer enough to get her pregnant.
The question everyone has forgotten, when is Kris going to have his hand chopped off?
>>742718438
>>742718394KINO
>>742718518The Soap Opera is only a front to the mystery. Instead of the question being "Who killed Laura Palmer" like a traditional mystery, the show is more like "What's really real?" which I think is much more aligned with what Toby is going for. Like /v/ isn't wondering "Who killed Dess?" but "WHAT happened to Dess?"
>>742716091>>742716527>can't fight so 100% chance of getting recruited no matter what weird ass route you're inalright kris, see you tomorrow. I'll stay in MYtown uh helping susie out
Excuse me sir.
Deltarune if it was good
>>742717637>1Dess is mentioned early enough.>2: Come on. By that logic the mystery in Persona 4 is trash as well.>3:Fair and might be a genuine issue.>4: Depends. If there is technology that can manipulate a soul is involved I could buy it. >6:Fair but also probably not going to be a thing.>8:Same as above.>9:Would be fun if the characters in universe were more willing to speculate. >10:Fair but probably won't happen.
>>742717661I love my queen, all hail Mew Mew
Noelle has turned into Chara
>>742718394I wonder if Noelle makes a Dark World will we get a cool palette swap again or is that just going to be for Susie only
>>742718245Kris said that before Noelle forced her to eat her out.
Enforcement Proceedings are needed in DELTARUNE.
>>742718681The difference is that the ones on the right are still alive. For now.
>>742718241Napstablook
Rude Buster Ruder Buster Rudest BusterRudy Buster
Susie thinks they're winning, but doesn't realize everyone else in the fun gang is griefing
Imagine if DELTARUNE ends just like Twin Peaks: The Return.We'd be so pissed.
>>742718438kris was raised by a traditional religious mother, if anything the way she's been acting recently with that there 'they/them' thing is already a push for poor tori
>>742718708If Pink belongs to Maddie, then all I have to do is make Maddie mine too.
you're not used up right guys?
>>742717637>Complaining that an indie developer doesn't have qualificationsDon't you have some AAAA games to play instead?
So what the hell happens to save files that did the weird route for Chapter 5? Do you just have to skip Chapter 6? Do you change perspectives for Chapter 6? Like what the fuck is the plan?
>>742718813Does the Kris equivalent die in Twin peaks?Because if not it's still nicer than what he deserves.
>>742716695A very reddited theory
>>742718710She needs to survive until the end to be worthy of the best humans and not a Flowey esque jobber.
>>742718909You already have save data ready for chapter 7. It's stored in a different file.
>>742717637Knoxs commandments are good but this isn't a Whodunnit. Its some small town story about fighting fate Like YIIK
>>742718874I can be used twice a day.More if I'm well rested.
>>742717891>forgettablefuck you man
Man, if you think the battles of this game are easy, you don't know the averagame deltarune gamer.I'm watching a streamer that is taking an hour to kill Titan.
What's going to happen in ch7 is we're going to fight a boss embodying the Roaring, it's going to be dealing gacha tier damage in the billions at us while we're gonna have about 400HP or so, we're gonna lose and forcefully start ng+.Ng+ is only going to emphasize one thing on us: "Get Stronger".
>>742718909>So what the hell happens to save files that did the weird route for Chapter 5?Nothing. I'm assuming it doesn't get carried over because there is no opportunity to save the game, so you're left with just normal route and twisted sword route
>>742717393Assuming it's even armor
>>742718874>>742718885KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
>>742717637The Knox Codes are more what you'd call guidelines than actual rules
>>742719014This is making me wish monyu.me didn't die.
>>742718909You can always import your Ch4 save data again when Ch7 is out. In the meantime, you can do the Ch5 abort.
>>742718723for consistency's sake I hope it's a palette swap but Susie or Kris will probably make it unless Rudy bites it before they make the fountain
>>742717013>the dojo music is pirate-themed. the last chapter, the dojo music was love-themed, and this chapter was the love chapter. next chapter is 6 and 6 is the gaster number>the lake, the depths, the ocean picture used for it and the one in the spectrogram of the weird route end sound>normalnpc is a parrot and working for gaster>roulxs kaard has loose associations with gaster and also wore a pirate hat>middle initial is D., like the pirates from one piecehe's also green
>>742719084where are the black goats? this is racist and bigot coded
Flowery-chan...
We're all in agreement that Susie will be killed eventually right?All jrpgs end with a dragon slaying, after all.
>>742718824Excellent idea>>742718874My balls are going to be used up because of Mew Mew
>>742719038i'm gonna spend 100 hours learning to no-hit the fight to see what happens instead
>>742718813I think only lynch could've pulled that off. I had a sleepless night after watching that finale , continously thinking over it.Thinking about the horrible implications, thinking how Cooper fucked up and he knows it but its too late
>>742719123Your mom's my best friend!
>>742717320why do you think this smug cunt will suddenly turn into some random weak brat the second the dark world ends? what if it is in fact strong as a normal monster or human?it is too fucking smug to be some mindless evil boss monster and we know it made most dark worlds and might have been hiding in the closets for some reason.this whole kidnapping nonsense is a red herring. the knight form might as well be too.
fuck Knox
>>742719148It starts the fight with an HP check that deals unavoidable 5000HP.If you cheat in higher HP the game bricks.
i have grown weary of the charafaggotry
>>742716174>(YOU) don’t exist and the SOUL is actually Dess>tfw Jaru was right again
I don't like theorizing with you guys anymore because you're all too negative and misery addicted I love the fun gang like a parent and I want to save them
>>742719014>anthro male on human femaleHot
>>742719224
>>742719195Yes.
>>742719084Humans into goats is cursed but at least more people would realize that Flowery is yet another Asriel parallel with Rudy on top of him.
>>742719162Carol is probably the only lightner we know who's strong as fuck in the Light world and could also be the Knight.
>>742719038>going to fight a boss embodying the RoaringI might be wrong, but there's no way Toby will try to outright steal Giygas
>>742717852She almost breaks his pelvis in a frenzy to start but after that phase she succumbs and goes full sub to Azzy
>>742717360>he's replying to himself again
Does /v/ mostly oppose Dess Knight out of contrarianism?
>>742717681my task bar after I kill all anonymous browsing tabs
>>742716174>>742716695>all the flowers are human due to Asgore’s obsession with finding a lost HUMAN girlKINO
>>742719284this is a boy
>>742719014How weak do you have to be to get dominated by Ralsei?lucky...
>>742719084I would have preferred this fake leakhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mjN7QGUWTA
>>742719084where's orange and pink?
>>742719259We're parents too!Abusive parents.
>>742719263>>742719259Funny saying this while the Kris fight seems to be next chapter.
>>742718934Kris is not Agent Cooper if that's what you're thinking. If anything Kris is more like Leland Palmer and Sans is more like Agent Cooper.I think it fits with the theme Toby is trying to write here, instead of letting go and accepting reality Dess's family and Kris are (seemingly) trying desperately to go back and right their wrongs. Agent Cooper goes back to the past to try and save Laura Palmer from ever dying, and in that attempt, he ends up making a new reality, but Laura Palmer in this new reality ends up remembering her death, and in so, destroying reality. Similarly, Sans also tries to go back to prevent everything, but in that attempt he ends up stumbling into the world of UNDERTALE.Yes, Toby is a hack fraud and he copies Lynch bar-to-bar and I love IT.>>742719153Lynch was one of those once-in-a-lifetime artists, I'm glad I lived to see his work.
>>742719292>there's no way Toby will try to outright steal Giygas
>>742719259But them suffering is good, they all deserve it.
>>742719123>>742719160>Flowery is based on a young Ruby >Fem-Flowery is based on a young Carol
>>742719263Right sorry, there's only Yagipedo
>>742719323Yes.
>>742719291Doesn't really fit her though, the knight is way too emotionalWhy the fuck would Carol cry after cutting down Tenna for a exampleThis is a consistent issue for most knight theories that don't involve Dess or Kriselle knight to be fair but its a reasonable observation.
>>742718705>tfw the normal route ends via actually pulling a Scratch
>>742716990Her entire character felt like it got reset after Chapter 4. She went from this board's favorite character to the butt of every joke.
>>742719292>I might be wrong, but there's no way Toby will try to outright steal GiygasIsn't the whole "refuse to fight" thing exactly what you do to defeat Giygas in Mother 1?
>>742719482That's pathetic.
>>742719371cute shopkeeper goat…
>>742719482>still seething over a post I made in may>still seething over the fact NoelleKnight is still on the table
>>742719259I don't like them anymoreNoelle sucksKris is a total loserSusie is a dumb bitch who screws over her friendsRalsei is too gay and also a pussyI hope they all die in the end
>>742719239Jaru stays winning, only real schizophrenics can see the way.
>>742719038Every egg is going to be a buff for that fight, that is why they are not too important. You can still beat it without the buffs
>>742718348Butler, Rocker, and Schoolboy outfits prove he looks great in pants too. So I won’t complain.
>>742718241Susie. She broke the rules when she didn't share the final prophecy with the player.
>>742719285I want to turn humans into monsters, but there aren't enough humans.
>>742719323Dess knight niggers were really smug and rude for the entire past year. That's why there is general celebration over their demise.
>>742717993>Titans that look like The Knight appear in the depiction of The Titans>The Knight has the same color scheme as a Titan>The Knight can regenerate like a Titan yeah I see it
>>742719575Noelle is actually a tranny, got it.
>>742719412Giygas is gonna be the Player in the Weird Route.
>>742719086kek. Someone photoshop pirate gaster here
>>742719292The breathing from The Devil's Machine for Giygas is in Flower Man btw
>>742718382Not a single person would be able to tell that those were supposed to be frisk or Chara if you didn’t already tell them lmao
>>742717637Literally every good murder mystery I can think of breaks at least one of these.
>>742719126I've tried to telepathically attack Toby Fox, it didn't work but I could glimpse into his mind of an instant, and what I saw was Breath of Fire 2
>>742718705Toriel looks like she’s on crack and Carol looks like she has Down syndrome
>>742719391I feel like Kris might be the final boss, but maybe we will fight him as Susie next chapter and the sword in the maze is actually him.
>>742719014>Fem Kris and RalseiI buy it.
>>742719292>everyone prays to banish the Player's control from Kris, thus fulfilling "BANISH THE ANGEL's HEAVEN"
>>742719480if that little nigga tries something like that I'm gonna make the titans look like a joke
>>742719439Finally we can see Carol's soft side that Asgore and Rudy always talk about.
>>742719014That's a /utg/ femanon
>>742719195indeed
>>742719624I see a gaggle of retards celebrating, but no actual demise
>>742719637It could also be a titan spawn with a soul or the result of a monster trying to seal a dark fountain (their soul gets consumed by the darkness)
>>742719014There are female ralseifags?
>>742719239did he actually say this?
>>742717741>It is not a stretch to say that at night the Knight can maintain its powers temporarily in the light world.It's an impossibly massive stretch because Kris leaving his house door open while making chapter 3 fountain didn't plunge the entire town into a dark world. It being day or night outside has literally zero impact on dark worlds, there's zero correlation between lack of light and Knight's strength.What is NOT a stretch is that the stuff the knight is built off, the black shards, do not change form between dark and light worlds. Black shard you get from ch3 remains a black shard in the light world and still applies its full attack bonus even beneath a scorching sun.
>>742718705god I wanna frig (fuck) carol
>>742716990>>742719546Chapters 4 and 5 needed to have been swapped nothing else makes sense. Why the fuck are we having a chapter with minimal actual plot progression at this point when 4 ended with Susie getting some development and saying everyone needs to do something after the knight escapes a second time. I really don't think Toby understands a year for what is by design filler doesn't make anyone happy and when you're going to go and replay all the chapters back to back it's going to be sticking out been further as a sore thumb.
>>742719480Kris blaming me for working with the knight would genuinly make me try to weird route the fucker.
>>742719480the player being used as a patsy would be hilarious
>>742714435>Toriel>depressedThat slut is happy.
>>742719508Carol has been constantly depicted as someone obsessed with keeping things the same forever. It makes sense she would have a somewhat sad reaction to killing Tenna, especially if the dark world allows her to express her more ""softer"" side.
>>742719587Susie's not the detective, she's a Waston. She points things out and voices flawed theories and speculation for the reader to consider.
>>742718817I think the Catti scene soured me on Susie more than almost anything else
>>742717013It's funny.
>>742719568Your 1200 page roleplay session with NoelleKnight sprinkled in got dragged out and shot by a generic arg answer
>>742719618Hey!that's pretty hot
Why was Susie asking what was the soul when she already saw it when we sealed the fountains?
I told Toriel I'm busy
>>742719838Girl ralseifags are usually girls who self-insert as Ralsei. They exist.
>>742719556Sort of, Giygas makes the case that he's too powerful to beat in an actual contest of strength (this is also why in the first two games he uses an "incomprehensible" attack) so in 1 you need the songs to score an emotional victory over him and make him fuck off, in 2 you Pray a bunch because Giygas has become evil incarnate and the only way to score meaningful damage against him is to harness everybody cheering you on
>>742719859>Horny Widows just want sex.>You WILL be forced to fuck ugly Deer women.
>>742719618I would rather humans stay humans myself desu.
>>742719480I'M HELPING YOU WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT KRIS
>>742719624>their demiseWe're stronger than ever.Stronger than you!
>>742719926DessKnightfags are mentlaly ill
>>742719121If we're going off of Ralsei rules, Yellow and Green should be black because they have hats
>>742719940I mean at the end of chapter 4
Toby Zorro thinks he's so fucking clever. It's damn obvious the "regular" route is the predetermined NPC path that will lead you to the bad ending this time and the "dark" route with the "fucked up" shit will be the one that will allow the player to save everyone. I see what you're up to, Foxykins.
>>742717637I get it, the 5th isn't here because Temmie is in the game, lmao.
>>742718817>>742719907>Dropped her friendship with Kris at the drop of a hatNah, fuck Catti.She got what she fucking deserved.
>>742719508most emotions knight shows, including the cry, is mockery. the knight is a bully. in fact it is weird that it just rushed to grab asgore blindly and slammed face first into a wall instead of fooling around with him and flowery. this might mean something.>the knight is playing the evil boss type guy on purpose, it isn't actually evil>the second an adult pops into the scene like asgore or undyne who might be legitimately powerful it just fucks off with them, there's an urgency theme that tells that things might not be under its control entirely.conclusion: chuuni. maybe it's a lingering will of dess that wants the lancer fan club to have some fun with dark worlds, meanwhile there's a second layer of orders on it that forces him to kidnap the bunkerners. Dess or Asriel.
>>742719870>the knight ends up being right>we win and kris looks like a retard
>>742719941
>>742719940Some sort of bullshit twist later?You know, like how EXP was Execution Points. It's gonna turn out SOUL means like, idk, SO U got possessed Lol
>>742719480>"Oh so that's how it's gonna be lil nigga?"
>>742719940she didn't really register it before, ig
>>742719643Don’t worry cause Kris is also a woman so Kriselle still gets to technically be straight
>>742720017If you think the Weird Route is gonna lead to anything good you might be retarted.
>>742718909>>742719039When you reach the "insert side b" screen the game automatically creates a ch5.b file in your computer.you just can access it from the game
>>742719965I'm starting to think this might've been Toby messing with us.
>>742719986Dess Knight fags don't have an embarrassingly long dissertation on their theory
>>742719689Human art can range from very on-model to extremely off-model, I actually like the creative freedom artists have.
>>742719961Makes sense. If I was a girl, I'd want to be a cute fluffy boy with a huge dick.
Want to know why there's so much cheese in the dark worlds Kris creates? What does this cheese actually mean, and how is it connected to Kris? "The Cheese Theory" will answer all these questions!
do you really think Toby will harm his bellowed Mary Susan? Have you noticed how he writes her? She's basically a narrator, every bit of story we read through her sperging out like a retard. She constantly changes character every chapter, going from bully to best friend to sperg to misunderstood character to some new retarded persona. I'm not even mentioning the suselle stuff. The cope keeps flowing even though ch5 drops ntr right into your face
>>742719939I know!>>742719971Consider it this way; if monsters turn humans into more monsters, then the humans that live with monsters and don't get transformed must be really special and well loved.
>>742720102>dessknightfags only superficially engage with the storygood to know
>>742719898No, she's the detective. She is the one driving the investigation forward and collecting evidence. The Watson doesn't have to be a separate character. Many detective stories just have the MC and various side characters for him to bounce off.
>>742719838No, that's a woman making fun of him.
>>742720017>implying toby hasn't already thought of that toothe truth is that the two extreme cases (normal and weird, the closest equivalents to pacifist and genocide) will be unsatisfying shit and the real good shit will be the "neutral" (twisted sword) route
>>742719805That's something that I'd like to see in the next chapters
>>742719323/v/ supported Dess Knight before ch5 because it made the most sense./v/ now supports Kriselle Knight because it makes more sense than Dess Knight.Shrimple.
>>742719323have you ever seen an anti-dessknight fag who ISN'T overly bitching about it like the idea personally trapped their older sister in the goner dimension? that should tell you enough
>>742720135>do you really think Toby will harm his bellowed Mary Susan?he already did, and im glad he did, she actually has some believable flaws now
>>742720117cheese is symbolic of gaster, mice of the player
>>742720117Another version, made by an anon.
>According to /v/>Character development isn't devolpment>Stories have to escalate continously and can never have a momentary release of tension>Every secret boss needs to be a spamton clone>set-up isnt development>character development isnt development>Comedy games shouldn't have comedic bosses in the light hearted chapters>any chapter without gaster, friend, eram, egg, sans, shadow crystal, is fillerOnce again, thank god you faggots aren't the ones writing the story
I genuinely wonder if the Weird Route was supposed to be bigger in scope up until Toby realized how much more complicated it would make the development of the game as he was making Chapter 2.Like it's somewhat odd that Chapter 2's Weird Route heavily changes the progression of the chapter the same way Genocide did in Undertale, but then Chapter 3+4 are 95% identical and the game basically skips Chapters 5+6 to go all the way to Chapter 7.
>>742720135>TobyGuest writers*That's right, Toby already allowed in Insidious yesmen into his work, DR isn't a creator's work any longer than ch4.
>>742719480>AY SUS I AIN'T WORKING WITH THE KNIGHT ITS THIS HEART DEMON FORCING ME TO CO-OPERATEYou know, I can believe Susie is retarded enough to fall for it hook line and sinker tooMuch easier to accept than the idea of her best friend lying to her from the start.
>>742720203maybe by unintentionally making her stupid
>>742719846Yes, but that Dess is a boss monster whose soul Kris absorbed.
>>742720098besides chapter 3, almost everything in 4 and 5 was right hereimpressive for something made before chapters 3 and 4 dropped
>>742719971Do you actually like anything about this game besides the humans?
>>742719480You just made a very determinate enemy, punkass kid
>>742720234They were a traitor, Kris Dreamer?
>>742720058>flushinglmao no have fun unclogging that huge log while hungover
>>742720135The NTRfag crashout over Suselle is so funnyHow do you see two girls kissing and feel emasculated instead of turned on? Aren't you a man? Just beat them with your cock, idiot
>>742720167Where's the demise, anon?
>>742719480humans are the real monsters
>>7427179645 knights at Sans
>>742719126The dragon will Roar, and will be blazed
>>742720117I despise how to terminally online people, everything has to be a theme, allegory or symbol. They have to turn every single piece of media into grade school English class.
>>742717637IT'S RUDY IT'S RUDY IT'S RUDY IT'S RUDY IT'S RUDY IT'S RUDY IT'S RUDY IT'S RUDY IT'S RUDY IT'S RUDY IT'S RUDY IT'S RUDY
>>742720213>>Character development isn't devolpmentmore like regression>>Stories have to escalate continously and can never have a momentary release of tensiongoing from all high stakes with the titan and prophecy to nearly 0 is a sudden shift>>Every secret boss needs to be a spamton clonemewmew literally goes "oh btw here it is" and hands you the crystal, why was she is SC boss?>>set-up isnt developmentit isn't and the set up barely changed anything, you could have made susie just say they needed noelle at the end of ch 4 and skip all of 5 and the story wouldn't change>>Comedy games shouldn't have comedic bosses in the light hearted chapterssee point 2>>any chapter without gaster, friend, eram, egg, sans, shadow crystal, is fillersusie just needed to be in the INCIDENT asgore scene and ask him to elaborate, that's all
>>742720213In hindsight it was kinda dumb to expect a ton of revelations in what was repeatedly called a more mellow chapter.Still it kinda feels like we got less explained than in chapter 3.
>>742720207Gaster isn't yellow, and don't joke about cheese every few sentences. And Kris certainly doesn't associate Gaster with cheese. Kris doesn't even know who that is... probably.
>>742719482>screencapping your own falseflag post because no one took the bait>trying to pass rudyknight as the "logical answer"lmao'ing @ ur lyfe
>>742720158As long as the humans I like stay human, fine by me.
I am a retard please explainWhat is kris even supposed to be like without the SOUL?
>>742719763if the Mew Mew fight is any indication the opposite will happen and we and Kris will team up and fight the final boss together
>>742719480Haha nice prank Kris! Seriously! I see that you're on the cusp of your goals coming to fruition! Well I have a funny prank for you too!
>>742718824my brother, just another mekiss angry ghost femcelmake out with 10 minutes with angry ghost femcelsteamy foreplay session with angry ghost femcelfurious tailjob from angry ghost femcel while she berates yousex with angry ghost femcel while she hides her face in shamepaint angry ghost femcel's womb white from behind until she cums herself retardedscratch angry ghost femcel's ears and chin until she stops being angryfall asleep with purring ghost femcel
>>742720252there's that, but im talking about her paying more regards to darkners, trying to butt into every conversation/make everything about her, and being a hypocrite against flowery.
>>742720201People have been saying this for two weeks and Ive yet to see how it actually makes sense. And /v/ would throw a fit if you didn't support Noelle Knight previously
>>742720058kek I got the same thingonly learned about Toby walking back chapter 4 ending from these threads
>>742719014Is there a full version of this? I've seen this crop posted everywhere but I could never find the original.
>>742720260It's just the incredibly specific predictions. >Noelle pointing to angel wings>Noelle says she wants to grow wings and fly out Hometown>Headstone with a flower>Flowery dies at the end>Don't forget post it note>UNUSED in the code is Dess telling herself "Don't Forget">Uprooting flower>Kris collects the seeds of Flowery
>>742720393While I agree with you on principle, this is Toby Fox bro. He IS one of those people, and he's writing this game.
>>742720269I actually enjoyed Chapter 5 unlike you, though.
Why can't Carol just suspend human rights and the constitution and shit to find Dess, how the fuck is she so powerless
>>742720396It's only Rudy if we assume Deltarune is a fair-play whodunnit. It isn't.
>>742719345you know ralsei is sandbagging and just pretending to be a cute uwu femboy twink, right? he's probably at least as powerful as asriel at his age body equivalent
>>742720465I'm the original anon who made that post yes I'm a NoelleKnightchad YES that anon is fucking seething about me
>>742720573She's the mayor of a small town, calm down.
>>7427173605/8 of those chapter 5 leaks didnt even happen and the ones that did were already hinted at in game
>>742719480>hmmm>today I will antagonize a demon that holds power over time and space>clueless
>>742719480If I go down, I'm taking you with me!
>>742720478A zombie. He can only survive with it removed for 8 hours.
why are they "cheasy points" and not "cheezy points" or "cheesy points"
>>742720536That's the original
Ralsei WILL leave the party to resist against Kris.
>>742720569I mostly enjoyed it as well. Not your boogieman.
>>742720415>mewmew literally goes "oh btw here it is" and hands you the crystalgerson does this too lol
>>742719814Do any women (no trannies) think Ralsei is attractive? I've only seen gay men and Clover thirst over him.
>>742715937I fucking love Aqua. Asgore needs to give Aqua's lightener flower to Kris to keep in his room, so she has an excuse to come with them to every Dark World without risking dying.
>>742720465>screencapping your own falseflag postThe NoelleKnight schizo literally replied and took ownership of it already, dumbass
>>742720626Clearly nothing outside of this town actually exists, literally not a single mention of anything, the prophecy is even centered on the residents of the town
>>742719405>Kris is more like Leland Palmer>Dess is LauraDoes that make Noelle Maddy? Kris is going to send her to Missoula it always bothered me that Maddy is so insignificant considering how important Laura is and after the whole Tulpa/doppelganger stuff I would've thought that Maddy would been implied to be more important
>>742719618>>742719939>TFW will never get to develop BUG F£££££ PAWBS as a monster Its not fair man.
>>742720573How would declaring martial law help her find Dess?
All the flowers represent and aspect of kris and that’s why they’re all humans>aqua: kris as a child>seth: Kris wanting to be more like Asriel>yellow: Kris’s autistic and suicidal desire to “fix” everything >orange: kris’s insecurities over not being human>green: Kris mostly being silent and loving food>blue: kris being a gay ass fucking faggot>pink: kris being two niggas lmao>flowery: the small part of kris that’s actually based
>>742720393Okay, anon. Explain this poor creature.
>>742719838
>>742720512this guy gets it
>>742719480I would gladly take the blame for my nigga Kris
>>742717852>people say the Knight is amalgamation of Noelle and Kris>Knight is actually amalgamation of Asriel and Dess
>>742720730>>orange: kris’s insecurities over not being humanYou mean over not being a monster
>>742720676gerson at least explains why he has it, mewmew doesn't, mewmew isn't even special in any particular way to warrant being a SC holder
>>742720089Good little NPC. Just walk down the "safe" path to your own doom. It's not like the prophecy isn't already telling you what's going to happen. Go ahead. End the game.
Chapter 3 is and always will be the most dogshit chapter and nothing will change that
>>742720573>Carol suspends human rights>Kris is enslaved and forced to fuck the dyke out of her daughter
Are we done? No more secret bosses after Mew Mew?
>>742720683I think only fujos like him and treat him as an uke.
>>742719259Me too, I just don't really >>742719262like Suselle.
>>742720460It can be symbolic of both, but mice 100% represent the player, noelle's opinion of mice (the player) changes depending on the route, and mice imagery is tied to the player via jevil's mousehole prison and jevil being a parallel to the player (free but in a cage) as well as through us using mice in the mike room. ICE-Es, a blue dog resturaunt, was also built over a mice resturaunt, like how kris is superimposed ontop of the soul.
>>742719624every other knight candidate went down the toilet as of chapter 5 brother. only dess remains
>>742720669No it's Kris that's leaving.On normal route we get the vessel as replacement, but Kris later comes back into the party.On weird It's Noelle.
>>742720553Yeah, I'm thinking that was actually Toby.Which is extremely concerning because there is no way being in these threads isn't influencing the writing in some way. Get the fuck out of here Tobert
>>742720815Seam will kick your ass
>>742720794nuclear
>>742720815Do take into consideration the fact that we've been feeding one Darkner with multiple Shadow Crystals.
>>742720721I don't know, but if she can do that, surely she can also direct everyone to find Dess. It's all so suspicious
>Chapter 4 intentionally turns the fanbase on Toriel>Chapter 5 intentionally turns the fanbase on Susie >Asgore is now missing >Kris is now clearly more fucked up than before I have a bad feeling about this
>>742720815seam might be the last one.you think we're getting that crystal for free?
>>742720707I would post more, but despite half of deltarune's characters being perfect tf bait, there actually isn't much good art.If I had the spare time and money to commission someone, I'd love to see alphys converting humans into lizards like her.
>>742720328>How can I show I am a fucking niggerfaggot>Wait I'm going to post this!Kill yourself.
>>742720815at most we will get a seam superboss (if toby doesn't blueball us again)
>>742720567lorefags sure are a hilarious bunch, but it's not like the main basic story of the game and elements are all that interesting. I feel that without the weirdness there'd be 13 people giving a fuck about this game and no more than that. Honestly I could not give a shit about barney the dinosaur preventing big titans from fucking everything up, didn't sign up for that, and the game made sure to make me want to actually kill the fucking dino
>>742720815Probably Seam in ch6 and Friend in ch7.
>>742720847amalgaknight >>>>>>>>>
>>742719126>All jrpgs end with a dragon slaying, after all.Yeah. Toby had already spoiled it all back in 2022 when he released this music video.https://youtu.be/njgcjGojRKk
>>742720584But why wouldn't it be? Toby pretty straightforwardly gives us hints about the knights identity through Susie's dialogue. Someone familiar with the code ergo someone who personally knows the mayor, the police and the priest. Adding to that, the knight also knew Gerson enough for him to manifest in the dark world. If all of this clues were for just throw offs that had nothing to do with the knights identity, then it would be an extremely unsatisfying conclusion for the mystery.
>>742720046Is Asriel really a bully?I do agree that this is a pretty good argument against Carol and Rudy though. I know she has a weeb side, but she seems more like the type that would be ruthessly effiencent. Meanwhile Rudy seems more like somebody that would try to minimize harm even when doing bad things.
>>742720943This is about Kris and NoelleThey jump into a lake
>>742720815Deltarune is gonna turn to shit after we stop getting secret bosses
>>742720683Who the fuck is clover?
>>742720784>gerson at least explains why he has ithe says he FOUND it in his drawer with the feeling someone wanted him to "use" it. he didn't know where or why he actually had it>mewmew isn't even special in any particular way to warrant being a SC holderI mean it's in the same way the NEO machine got a crystal. It's more of a retread in that aspect
>>742720847
Dess is a human and the soul is hers not ours.
>>742720847>blocks your path
>>742720897I still haven't forgiven Kris for lying about Toriel to Susie.
>>742719624Pretty much this. Their most important "point" came from the superficial similarity between one frame of the knight's knife and a base ball bat. From here, the whole theory became whole with shaky evidence that was only believed by fags who desperately wanted Dess to be the big bad antagonist of the game. Dessknight was never the most reasonable or logical explanation and it never will be. The guillotine being swung on the theory in chapter 5 proved that they were just a louder, more obnoxious version of Krisknighters. They were both btfo'd in the same way. Hilarious really.
>>742720415>mewmew literally goes "oh btw here it is" and hands you the crystal, why was she is SC boss?it's explained in this chapter that shadow crystals are made up of broken dreams. they're created with the dark worlds through the relations the object have with the real world, the Knight isn't travelling through them and gifting them to people.
>>742720089It will be good to me at least
Anons, Knight isn't any particular known character. The Knight is the Knight, even in the light world. If not, then Knight is some vague slop. Do you really think Toby is unironically gonna reveal the Knight to be some character that we already know?
>>742719480I'm gonna make what I did during the genocide route look like a girl's night out if this happens
>>742720875I don't think it was Toby but someone close enough to sleep in Toby's house definitely lurks here.
>>742717360Half of these feel like/are BS, but the other half are strangely specific.
>>742721013I'm honestly patience pilled enough at this point that the soul being Frisk isn't entirely implausible.
>>742720978That whole quest probably unlocks a post game superboss after the final boss has been defeated.Like I'm expecting it to play like UT where the final boss is dealt with but you still can move around and do stuff.Well we're probably gonna tie loose ends with Friend/Gaster.
>>742720743hell yeah i wish i was asgore why is he so obsessed with the town bike when there's gold sitting literally next to him?
>>742721148>We find the hidden door that goes to the door in Undertale
The only way we can predict the ending of Deltarune is bia the dream realm Post your Deltarune/Undertale related dreams
>>742720089>Prophecy cattle daring to speak in my Holy Tongue
>the mantle game having Kris kill Susie and Ralsei to progress>Ralsei being fully aware of kris working for the knight and of YOU and just trying to be super gay>Susie talking about how KRIS won’t let the final tragedy happen >chapter 5 showing Susie double down on her delusions also being the one where kris is the most dejected >the weird route literally having Kris and Noelle write themselves out of a large chunk of the storyThe normal route is going to have Kris kill Susie and Ralsei isn’t it?
>>742720963It isn't because a main piece of physical evidence (how the knight moves around and carries people) is not even acknowledged and is likely irrelevant. You can't have a mystery when the magic rules in your setting are unknown or inconsistent, as is the case in Deltarune.
>>742719805i knew a lot of moms like Carol when I was a kid so I'm hoping she's got a good reason for everything she's doing
>>742721097>Kikky found out how to work a computer
>>742720567toby could legitimately serve out an empty plate in the middle of his 7 course meal and people would start complimenting the stains and bitch when someone complains
>>742716532Where is this from?
Wouldn't it be funny if we never got a confirmation for the Knight's identity and were left only with hints?
>>742721039I don't like dess knight since everything points to her being missing so it would feel like a bit of a rug pull to go "actually dess was here the whole time!!!"
>>742721097now why the fuck would you save a photo of Toby Fox sleeping. this is horror movie stalker shit
>>742714435Also in a shit game with a terrible fan base. It doesn't get any worse
>>742721039At this point I believe the knight is just something like whatever ralsei is, or an object from the holiday house etc. Not a person.
>>742720098How is it so fucking accurate? I refuse to believe Toby actually posted it.
>>742720662because peperony and chease
>>742721039The main problem with DessKnight is that it breaks the story. Why is the knight starting the roaring in order to find herself? It's nonsense.
>>742721219Hey, I love the Weird Route too! I just don't like people saying it's gonna lead to anything good.
>>742719259I sufferedand so should they
Nothing, quite literally nothing points to Dess being the Knighthow are people this retarded?
>>742720875I do like how close he is by displaying my favorite game tropes and references in deltarune though, possibly because he's either inside my house watching me sleep or reading my posts here.
>>742720845>It can be symbolic of both, but mice 100% represent the playerWhat are you talking about? Kris would hide under her bed and scare her. He even had a mouse costume for Halloween. Kris = mice, not (You)
>>742721337>Prophecy cattle lied as easily as it breathedYou are an animal. Do not respond to me again.
>>742721090Susie's hints means that it has to be something we know. It has to be somebody we saw at church.
>>742714435>there are Adults UNIRONICALLY playing trannyrune LOL! LMAO! ROFLMAO!
>>742721090I'm on team Knightknight too nobody ever comes up with an explanation for why they look like that besides armor from somewhere and someone and why said "armor" allows it to shapeshifter and turn into a small orb
>>742721287Honestly I'm still trying to figure out who told you all that the Knight had to be someone.
>>742721383>He even had a mouse costume for Halloween.Source?
>>742720089imagine bowing to fate and not making your own way
>>742721285https://www.demirramon.com/generators/undertale_text_box_generator
>>742721310It's SO much worse than that.This photos returns 0 matches if you reverse search it and it was only ever posted on /v/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/737255393/#q737255393There's some famous "rare photos" of Toby like him in a cow farm, in his graduation, playing piano, etc etc but nothing like this.
>>742720815That was the last shadow crystal.If we're to fight another secret boss, it would be to do something with the crystals we've gathered.
So did chapter 5 actually deconfirm DessKnight or are people just shitposting about the other options due to us getting no new information
>>742721234If it wasn't then Toby wouldn't be building up the mystery around the Knight's identity through constant leading questions, and we can't say the piece wasn't acknowledged before the story is fully done.
>>742720669Ralsei will leave the party, but not to resist Kris. But because it will be time to Fight Susie, the Silver Dragon, and you don't get to have Fireshock for that.
>>742720983The gay cowboy.>>742720683I was asking myself the same thing, there's almost no anthro male on human female content, almost all of it yjk.
>>742721097Where the fuck does this photo of him sleeping originate from? That's a new one.
>>742720965>Is Asriel really a bully?his character was always a pussy in UT while his human brother/sister was the little shit. Judging by how there's barely any difference in to reoccurring characters in DT he's probably still a pussyNow, here's my opinion. He can't be the knight, that thing has fuckin antlers instead of horns. And we won't see him until the ending, judging by what sans says in one of the chapters
>>742719405>Toby is a hack fraud and he copies Lynch bar-to-bar and I love IT.Honestly, copying David Lynch is kind of based. Same reason why referencing Hitchcock is still considered cool.
>>742720734Clearly an expression of Toby's barely suppressed sadism as while it may try to get the cheese, it never gets it due to the player's actions. Toby thinks other people starving is funny and is probably laughing at the existence of Africa.
>>742721097where do people find these photos of tobyfacebook?
>>742721396>>there are Adults UNIRONICALLY playing trannyrune >>LOL! LMAO! ROFLMAO!
>>742716695>kris/aqua parallels>aqua's design is literally a red heart on top of a blue body>aqua changes her color from cyan to red>aqua does "human" poses with kris, same poses that the knight also does>all the human shoes and ice skates in dess' room>ralsei says the knight only shows up when the heroes do yet the knight has been active since dess' disappearance and is confirmed to have opened the same fountain asgore is searching for>dess having a "susie-like" statue in her room, susie wearing asriel's jacket and it fitting perfectly>the cyan bake sale stand literally being a fake stand-inthe colors of our prophecy have been switched, asriel was blue, dess was pink, "the girl", kris was not meant to be a hero and is literally standing in for dess in the prophecy because the previous heroes failed and weren't able to fulfill it.
>>742721417The fucking narrative that builds up the mystery around the knights identity told me it.
>>742721420alas, what could have been...
>>742719805I can't help but imagine Young Carol is closer to Rin Tosaka from Fate Stay Night.
>>742720526>only learned about Toby walking back chapter 4 ending from these threadsHow and when did he do this?
>>742721432
you know, you can just say you don't like the idea of dess being the knight instead of acting like some random bit in chapter 5 killed it somehownothing's stopping you from having an opinion that isn't objectively 100% proven true or false yet
>>742721489Most rare Toby photos come from his homestuck days when he would go to meetups.Toby was kind of an attwhore during the starmen.net days too
>>742720202Got me there
>>742720918
>>742721417Susie (the audience surrogate) did.
so what's with the lyricless music but there being lyrics on-screen? happened with flower man and that ddr game in chapter 3. are they placeholders or something? is someone actually going to sing this officially at some point?
>>742721039nothing really changed for dess knight in terms of available evidence in chapter 5, did it? I think it's just that the way the story so deliberately danced around confirming or deconfirming Rudy this chapter was really suspicious
>>742721436No, Dessknight just got too popular so /v/ has to be contrarian
>>742721510Did it?
>>742721507The biggest counterargument to this is sadly that Toby isn't brave enough to make Kris female.
>>742721436It didn't deconfirm nor did it give any more clues that would hint at her being the knight.
>>742721335Suselle art is always so fucking gross these people worship ugliness
>>742720701>anti-humanfag reveals himself
>>742721592Why is there no official transcription of Mew Mew Magic?
>>742721592whimsy
>>742721285I wrote it :)
>>742721231The normal route is going to have some brutal curveballs I can already tellConsidering that Kris is inspired by Oersted from LiveALive...
>>742721547>Releasing DR in episodes purely to farm engagement and attentionoh you don't say
>>742721592it's for (You) to sing
>>742721097Nah, he probably posts here, it's an anonymous imageboard after all, anyone can post without revealing who they are, and for a guy who cultivated a fanbase with nothing but the most annoying people on the internet, that must be the ultimate freedom, to be another faceless dude calling you a faggot from the other side of the world
>>742721432The idea of people collecting rare Toby photos like they're rare pepe's is hilarious
>>742721538I would err towards Kris being the knight SOMEHOW since the dark fountains they make have the exact same worlds in them.
>>742721608Yes! Why else would Toby give us hints at the knight's identity through Susie's questions?
>>742721039Here's the (You) you were begging for
>>742721609dess was the girl, kris is "the cage" for dess' soul
>>742721432Send the pic of Toby sleeping in during the next thank you survey
>>742721432>post from this year>4chan postAI generated. deepfake. call it.
>>742721589Susie is retarded though.
>>742721592Toby worked on Pokemon, and that's how they did it.
>>742721432>toby "sleeps"
Reminder the knight is more connected to fire than it is to ice
4>5>2>1>>>>>>>steaming hot pile of cow shit>>>>>>>3
>>742721503>NO! NO! NO! MY MILLENNIAL HUMOR WHOLESOMECHUNGUS RPG IS HECKING VALID LIKE ALL TRANSFOLK! Your game is postmodern garbage with no real value....
>>742721383Anon, the mouse cheese thing in UT 100% parallels our attempts to reach Gaster, and Gaster is associated with cheese via hole-hands and the forgotten quiche and such. The jevil mouse shit and stuff with spamton being a cat elemental because he hates mice (jevil, the soul) makes it pretty clear.
>>742721752It has a snowflake attack, though
We are five chapters in and we STILL don’t have a good idea of who the knight is much less their actual motivations.
>>742721432I think he just shitposts on here from time to timeLike the rose removal was 100% due to shitposts from here and him scared of it catching on (Makes sense we had zero context for it being a thematic motif that will likely keep reappearing in future chapters)
>>742721752zomg, Ralsei is the knight
>>742721709Knight is a Kris X Dess fusion.
>>742719480All because I set you up with Berdly?
Just rewatched that scene. The bells from Prophecy started ringing the moment Noelle and Susie started to hear eachother heartbeats. Then later Susie is outright obsessed with it in the dark world. Isn't that kind of weird?
>>742721039>redditard/twitterfag persecution complex over Dess Knight being the more popular candidate comes to /v/This whole thing becomes so much more pathetic when you dig into it, and it amounts to pissing and moaning that non-dess candidates don't get a lot of fanart that isn't a joke.
>>742720486That's true. That's true. Maybe we will fight and then reconcile with Kris in Chapter 6, then.
>>742721787The knight's motivation has to be Dess's revival. We have nothing else to go on.
>>742721725The filter makes me think this photo must be from 2014 or 2015 when Toby was living with Hussie and Hussie took this photo to mess with him.Doesn't look AI generated, the freckles match.
>>742721785Those are stars and a reference to pk star stormIt has both an unused fire attack and a used one(their box cutting one)
>>742721712Red herring.
I humbly request your cutest FemKris pics, please.Or Dess.
>>742721592He thought up lyrics for the music but didn't think having vocals would be best for that section of the game.
>>742721090>Do you really think Toby is unironically gonna reveal the Knight to be some character that we already know?How does this scene make sense if The Knight isn't somebody that Kris knows?
>>742721231The entire solution to the Roaring problem is clearly GET STRONGER.YOU will Get Stronger Noelle will Get Stronger (You) WILL kill both Ralsei and Susie.(You) WILL murder all of Castle Town.
>>742720670We both enjoyed it and aren't each other's boogieman? How nice!
>>742721875Why not Femkris and Dess?
>>742719259>Fun GangYou mean Shit Squad.
>>742720983The 3 headed cat retard.
>>742719480Kris about to find out (WE) are as bad as he says
>>742721752Asriel Knight may be Dess Knight but makes more sense but it'd be a rerun of Undertale and Toby isn't a hack to redo his same twist again
>>742721547>>742721762>>>742721503(You)>>NO! NO! NO! MY MILLENNIAL HUMOR WHOLESOMECHUNGUS RPG IS HECKING VALID LIKE ALL TRANSFOLK! >Your game is postmodern garbage with no real value....
>>742721787we will find vhs tapes scattered in the shelter that will explain everything
>>742721419My bad. It is IMPLIED that Kris had a costume like that.
>>742721849But how would somebody have it? There's zero chance Andrew Hussie posts here, right? Especially not to post a random photo of Toby and get barely any replies
>>742721875i like this one
reminder that kriselle knight was invented to try and make people forget that noelle by herself is still the most likely candidate for the knight rudy broke his asswe don't have enough on carol to saydess left a long time agothat only leaves noelle, who has been described and shown to be incredibly powerful
>>742721872Honestly, that just makes me think Dess was considered the stand out in her family, much like Kris.
>>742721901Forgot:(You) WILL become the knight in ng+ and kidnap all 6 Undertale main bosses and trap them in the shelter so you can consume their souls to Get Stronger.
>>742721390Mean.
>>742721968God, I fucking love tomboys.
>>742721903Because I like to keep my meat and vegetables separate.>>742721968Hmm. More.
>>742721824ain't nobody watching that shit nigga everyone here skipped normal route lake
>>742721991you're trying to tell me Noelle is able to carry Asgore over her shoulder?
>>742720046>in fact it is weird that it just rushed to grab asgore blindly and slammed face first into a wall instead of fooling around with him and flowery. this might mean something.It's Rudy. Very injured, so didn't waste time. Asgore, so he's handling him with soft gloves. Elementary.
>>742720983Play the game.
>>742721928I'm not even pro Asriel knight I just wanted to get that fact out there
Prediction: the Roaring Knight question will be answered. The Dess question won't be. Within 3-5 years of the end of DELTARUNE, Toby Fox will announce a new game, where Dess will be an NPC.
>>742721991If Noelle is currently the knight then why the fuck is she seething about being an NPC or not changing?
>>742721960I think it was>Hussie takes a picture of Toby sleeping>Shares with his friends, they all have a laugh>time passes>/v/irgin gets the photo from someone loosely connected to Hussie>posts on /v/It's not like Toby doesn't know about /v/ anyways, we were one of the first places to try his demo out when it came out.
>>742721627>Suselle art is always so fucking grosJust like the ship itself lol
>>742721349>>742721336So it is just contrarianism
>>742721432>Now Toby you are going to fix your SHITTY STORY and all the mess you did with Chapter 5, and make Kriselle canon or I will leak every single of pics of you I kept on my computer
>>742720968At the end of the game, they kill the dragon.
>>742719480You will not be so cocky the instant you equip the twisted sword, boy.
>>742722005>The rebellious teenage weirdo is the stand out in her family compared to the perfect feminine Angel in deer form Noelle.You don't say.
>>742721875didn't realize how few femkris' i had that could be considered 'cute'most of them are kris trying to be cool
>>742722090UNRELATED soon (tm)
>>742721875
>>742721875i will spread this as far as I can
>>742721457>there's almost no anthro male on human female content,I see a fair amount for Asriel and Chara.
>>742720897Sato fits disturbingly well into UT/DTs meta narrative shit.
Everyone is the Knight theory
>>742721875no
Femkris more like femkringe
>>742721349Not nothing. You got pic related and... that's it. That's everything.
>>742722090Dess having just run away and everybody having insane mental knots about it would work pretty well frankly.
>>742722081are you trying to tell me that rudy or dess can?
>>742721335>inb4 Gaster is just Judy 1 to 1 and Deltarune and Undertale are connected Dream realities but contained into Computers
>>742721436>>742721620Asgore's notes establish that he found a black shard at "the original scene," a Dark World "a long time ago"The implication of The Knight's presence at the scene of Dess's disappearance BTFOs every Carol/Rudy/Lightner Knight theory that was based around "Kris and The Knight are trying to Find Her.ogg"Except for Dess Knight, as this independently establishes a connection between Dess and The Knight, and Dess Knight was already predicated on Dess being transformed into The Knight (black shards). It's stronger than ever.
>>742719480This would work for, like, a minute, before Kris's body starts failing again without us.
>>742722169i moreso meant the disconnect between fire and ice lending lent from that, but yeah
>>742720046it only really fucks around when it doesn't need to kidnap anyone, Chapter 3 was to stall for time
>>742722090Dess has to be answered: Her absence is front and center of every chapter of the story, Toby keeps beating her name into normies heads every chapter to make sure even they know about her.She's 100% getting solved.Gaster will be only addressed in some capacity but he is not gonna be shown, he just..takes Deltarune and fucks off to a third game.
>>742721231Toby doesn’t have the balls to do that
>>742722239Carol did it.
>>742722086>png of a gifi'd post it myself but i don't have it on me
>>742720328I don't discriminate.
>>742722081>Why, no, I have not played Undertale even a single time in my life. How could you tell?
>>742722203>that tummy
>>742721697>>742721697Sans makes a joke about janitor salary in chapter 2 when Susie asks about the cashier. That's the only 4chan related joke I can think of in the game but it does confirm he knows about the site's culture, along with this old twitter post >>742722106I do wonder what are the chances he actually used his name and shitposted on these threads and made us think it's another anon pretending to be Toby
>>742720328Men are pathetic. They know they can't compete with women.
>>742722239yes, because if Noelle can't carry a man thrice her own weight that means two unrelated characters totally can.
>>742718006looks like berdley
>>742721396>>742721503>>742721762>>742721935Both of you please kill yourselves THX bye.
>>742721130The only way that can happen is if Gaster somehow injected her into his going into games machine/Deltarune simulation. It would at least explain why Suzy is the reason Frisk fell underground.
>Next Thank You Survey is "where did they go?"
>>742722270she got eaten
>>742721436For like a day there were retards arguing that the black shard recovered years ago means that Dess couldn't possibly be the knight, and then people started pointing out the issues with that claim
>>742722106>we were one of the first places to try his demo out when it came out.Those were good times. Back when we all loved Goat Mom
>>742722274i can accept carol knight, the problem is that carol is basically a non entity and only appears in ch4better than dess and makes more sense than rudy, but it's still a poor showing
>>742722367My child goes there.
>>742722402Is it still possible to start participating in it or is it over
>>742719727>Breath of Fire 2>Kris and Noelle fuse together for more power>Asriel enters the Dark World at one point but Kris and Asriel cant recognize eachother at first and are just inconveniences to eachother>Because the prophecy or Ralsei says so, you have to experience something traumatizing to unlock an ability needed for the final fight>A former ally reluctantly fights you and dies, leading to you achieving your true potential>The shelter has a settlement of survivors that are on your side. They have kept the evil locked down there at bay but cant any longer. They are fully aware of the prophecy>Susie transforms into the Gatekeeper of the Dark World to stop something evil from breaking out one day into the real world and is basically considered gone forever>Only a specific thing you did at 3/4 of the game leads you to the true good ending where Susie wont sacrifice herself
>>742722206I was thinking this the other day >Crazy fuck with infinite lives>Does things because he fucking can >In just for the love of the game>Chink eyes Holy shit, Satō is just Adult Frisk
>>742722435I mean Carol carried the victims. She's not the knight.
>>742722401>It would at least explain why Suzy is the reason Frisk fell underground.Yeah.
>>742722354Do enlighten me.
>>742722086>>742722276
I don't fucking believe that the Roaring Knight is going to be just some character that we've already met and are suspecting. It can't be that, goddamnit
>>742722543This will never come to happen. Noelle moved on and loves susie now
The knight is (You). Don't you remember?
>>742722542No.Die in ignorance, faggot.
>>742721436The only thing chapter 5 confirmed was that the knight has existed since at least the incident. Which COULD mean that Dess isn’t the knight… but it could also mean she immediately turned into it and that’s what Asgore saw
the user 742722380 is a trans (wo)man btw
>>742722428>Back when we all loved Goat Mom>Implying we don't stillDR Tori is a bit of a hoe but PG Tori is still best girl
>>742721432either its temmie having a creep streak or someone is an actual ninja to get this photo. but i want to point on how unnatural toby's position feels and that he wears what i think a shirt and tee while in bed (could be blanket) so this creates a third option - toby posted this by himself
>>742722578I wish I was Berdly.
>>742722204There's a lot in general if you like Frisk or Chara, they are always paired with anthro males.
Way too many people think that Kris and the Knight are actually evil. It's like thinking that Asgore is a bad guy in Undertale.
>>742722416someone actually trying to say "well that'd mean dess became the knight before the fountain was made, then left black shards everywhere! that makes no sense!" like that wouldn't also apply to every other candidate in that same situation is still funny to me
>>742714435>Your mom getting railed by a friend just a few years older than you, very loudly to make sure you hear every moanYou forgot this one
>>742722591>Noelle moved on and loves susie nowErm... Then why is she acting that way on her date with Susie?
>Carol just used her Mayor Money and Local Government Authority to convince Asgore to come to the Shelter willingly after The Knight (her husband who is actively dying) opened a fountain in his shop and linebacker tackled him away from his kidOne more year of this shit
>>742722402Nowhere
>>742722630We still don't know anything about the incident itself other than that it involves a Dark World (which was an obvious guess, the Light World is too mundane for any crazy incidents like that), we just have more pieces that we can't put together because we don't understand how the mechanics of the worlds work, and running off of Undertale assumptions is a fool's errand given how different monsters are between games.
>>742722584it has to be, because if the knight was someone we didn't know and couldn't find kris wouldn't care if we knew who it was, because we wouldn't be able to do anything about it but kris actively prevents (you) from making kris remember who it is, because it's someone kris, and thus, (you), knows and can find in town
>>742722478top half of these aren't even in BoFIIfusing is in the first one and purely gameplay
>>742721787We have a pretty good idea, people just want to be retarded contrarians. Have you ever met an unironic Papyrus Knighter? They are completely brainless.
>>742722689What was the non-evil reason for The Knight to kill Jackenstein?
who says The Knoght carried its victims and didn't just shove them into a wheelbarrow and ran?
>>742722689There's definitely a reason for what they're doingwe just don't know it yet, all we've seen is Ralsei explain why it's a really bad thing to do, and also the prophecy.
>>742722402IN THE DEPTHSBEYOND THIS WORLDTO HAPPY TOWN
>>742714435yes
>>742721432>Not even 2 weeks since Chapter 5 released.>Thread discussion has devolved into obsessing over an IRL photo of Toby Fox sleeping.What the fuck are we doing right now?
>>742722379We may never know, unless the dog himself privately reveals to (you) in secret
>>742722415Ch4 + Asgore's behavior tells the entire story:>Asgore finds Dark fountain >Invites Dess and Kris to it>"haha this is awesome">"THE CHILDREN FOLLOWED THE POINTED TAIL">Dark fountain closes, Dess nowhere to be found, but Dess calls for help in ch2 files>Kris in lethargic condition, makes a deal with Gaster in the shelter in exchange for (you)>Asgore blames himself and ruins his relationship with his wife, and moves outWhat's the first thing Asgore instinctively does in the Ch5 dark world?Tackle you and Susie out of it, it was PTSD.
>Dess tries to seal a dark fountain>Her soul gets consumed by the darkness due to being a monster>Her body gets lost in the code
>>742722657>i want to point on how unnatural toby's position feels and that he wears what i think a shirt and tee while in bedit's not a stretch to assume he was taking a nap or something
>>742722790D*rkners aren't real, therefore it's not murder
>>742722720It’s platonic. They might become friends again but romance is off the table
>>742722746the knight being around back then should've made susie and ralsei reconsider everything, and ralsei even says the knight is only supposed to show up with the heroesbut it just gets glossed over and will probably be forgotten about in ch6
>>742722832Where do you think we are?
>>742722857Ralsei...
>>742722720CRITICAL DAMAGE
>>742722689Kris might be not, I doubt he's putting Asgore or wanted to put Toriel somewhere they would be harmed. Knight, that dude is being more hostile. And on the food chain, its obvious Kris is under the Knight.
>>742722909
>>742722724the secret holiday tunnels...
>>742722896Not fucking /vg/ for one.
>>742722720It's a ship that seems to have sailed awhile ago for some reason.
>>742722841if Dark Worlds are so bad they turn you into a nigger if in them for too long then why is Ralsei ok with Susie living their?
>>742722860>It’s platonicAre you sure?
>>742722750Well I'll accept this, but I always feel like reasoning like this is a meme in general because the author of any story can write any retarded shit for any reason, and the true reason Kris doesn't want us to know who's the Knight could be literally anything and perhaps there could even be no good reason for it
Why does the game punish you for killing the Titan spawn? Is Toby stupid?
>>742722968she already is one
>>742722881>chapter 6Unlikely, 6 is going to be focused on Noelle and Carol above all else because we need more lesbian melodrama and the obligatory "rich femme stands up to her mother" character arc that comes with the stereotypical butch X femme pairing story.Chapter 7 will be pure lore gigadump before your one and singular fight, the rematch against The Knight.
>>742722832Chapter sucks and there's nothing to talk about beyond confirming the overwhelming consensus on how much worse everything is sans weird routeOnly 50 more weeks at the bare minimum left to go.
>>742722943would've been funnier if sans kept showing up while she was zipping through town
explain to me ch4 phone conversation right fuarking now
>>742719480>further antagonize the guy with access to the game fileslol, lmao
>>742721707I think not showing your face to the public even though you already did a lot in the past will have the opposite effect I do wonder if Toby is ever gonna show his face in the chapter 7/final chapter credits and not wear a mask to be like Yoko Taro
>>742723030That really pissed me off. I had to redo the end of Chapter 4 to make sure Jackenstien was safe.
>>742722657>>742721960If one of your friends made a super successful game you would probably post weird and embarrassing photos of them on /v/ too
>>742722860>It’s platonic.I'm sorry but the ear holding scene confirms quite explicitly that it isn't.
>>742721432Photo taken by a drone.
>>742723014>did you ever consider the story is just badly written?
>>742723090That's Kris's Save_File_02 problem.
>>742723030It's a genuine fuckup on his part because it literally doesn't make sense for Jack to die when he's explicitly saved from that fate before you ever fight the spawn, he's just lazy and can't be assed to correct it.
>>742723053Anon, review the ch6 icon from Jackenstein's map in ch4.Ch6 is the dedicated Kris chapter, or it features a dedicated Kris fountain.
>>742723087we don't know lol
>>742722501>Nagi Wants to live a peaceful life with a lonely old lady who takes him in out in the country >SatoMY LIFE IS LIKE A VIDEOGAME
>>742723051fine into a double nigger
>>742723082No need to, he absolutely saw that deer zooming at incredible high speed
>>742723030You should have known fighting is only done by evil players who must be punished. Now you know :^)
>>742722860Nuh-uh
>>742722954Literally 100% the result of Kris.If Kris had shown Noelle any genuine interest or kindness when she needed it most, she would have given her body and soul to him in a heartbeat.
>>742723072>sans weird routeDon't you mean the Genocide route?
>>742723140Well somehow it always turns out that most theories are wrong despite how logical they may sound in essentially every game with an active theory community
>>742722968Ralsei knows Susie’s dumb ass is going to get them both euthanized so he’s basically just placating her every desire until kris kills everyone. It’s like giving a dog chocolate before putting them down
>>742723087Kris promised to Carol he's work with the conspiracy to revive Dess because he feels guilty for her death.
>>742723090doesn't matter Kris is too locked into their decisions to care that you can go back in town
>>742721874It's not just one hint, it's several. All of them being red herrings is just unrealistic, because Toby wouldn't have any in the first place if he decided the knight's identity wasn't important.
>>742723014the problem is that deltarune doesn't want to commit to a being a mystery full time but still incorporates elements of a mystery nobody seems to care about who the knight might be, but the game prevents (you) from learning about it when you get the chancethe knight looks like a holiday, but no one comments on thisit's very frustrating, especially when toby claims he's ripping off mother 3 when mother 3 already gave the player some pretty massive hints that the masked man was claus long before the actual revealmost players can intuitively figure it out in iirc ch5 when lucas & co infiltrate the pigmen and all of them are calling lucas 'commander'
>>742718346
>>742723030Why the hell would you do that?Remember the game you're playing, fool.There's probably also a deeper meaning behind the titans and their spawns too.
>>742720512basedsuper basedultra basedmega based
>>742723210the cutest marriage proposal i've ever seen
It kinda feels completely transparent that we're gonna get a Hospital Fountain where Rudy is either healthy (or alive again, if he actually dies), and Susie gets the argument that Flowery used on Ralsei proposed to her in turn, which is:"What makes your fantasy so fucking special that you get to keep yours, and we don't?"Noelle is the antagonist, defending the fountain because it's her fucking dad's life obviously. Rudy, being a genuinely kind person (possibly temporarily antagonistic due to the confusion of passing out and waking up in a magical wonderland where his beloved daughter is happy) will eventually convince Noelle to close the fountain and let go of him, probably when it becomes clear it staying open could destroy the town. Noelle will probably propose the same thing- the fountains are cool, but why not close yours and let the one where my dad isn't dead continue to exist? This won't happen. The hospital fountain is closed, Noelle is processing/grieving it, and people who really hate Suselle for whatever reason will get a glorious short-lived moment where Noelle tells Susie she doesn't want to see her anymore because Susie wanted her fantasy world more than the world where Noelle could actually be happy.Queue going back to castle town for a Susie crashout as she sees the Noelle welcome party shit the ending makes a point of rubbing your nose in.Then they'll just end up together anyway in the ending because if Toby actually has a fetish he's genuinely defensive over, it's yuri involving a shy nerd girl who wants to be punched in the stomach by a kinda dumb big strong girl. You know this is his fetish because it's literally the only aspect of Deltarune's writing that Toby has defended on social media. You can practically see his hurt feelings as he stammers that it's not just Undyne and Alphys again because Susie is "more chill".
>>742723312>deeper meaningHonestly feel the Titans as a concept are pretty well explained and established now.
>>742723030Abortion le bad =)
In Chapter 4, during the WR ring scene, why doesn't Kris or Noelle react to the SOUL entering Kris, and why doesn't Kris even try to fight back?
>>742723087we're missing words and what we caught makes it sound worse than it actually is
>>742722254>what incidentisn't it obvious?>DRIVING IN MY CAAAR RIGHT AFTER A BEEEER
>>742720501>tobert hires an entry level cybersec dev to encrypt the game data & secrets like animal well
>>742723217Relationships are a two-way street.I'm not willing to blame it all on ONE SIDE.
>>742723367I agree with everything but instead of a hospital it's the Holiday home.
>>742722848Unironically it might be something like thisThe original Dark World must have been sealed, otherwise Asgore would have been able to show it to people and prove his schizo theories, and we know he investigated the scene where the Dark World was and found the black shard.(Your Power) is needed to seal the fountains, but You obviously weren't around then. Maybe any human SOUL would do and Kris was somehow able to seal the fountain as a kid, but that seems questionable.Maybe Dess somehow merged with the fountain, took the Darkness into herself. That would explain why The Knight is something like a Lightner and a Titan. Maybe she jumped into the Fountain and sunk into the Depths, and that sealed the fountain behind her but trapped her there, until someone else rediscovered how to open a Fountain years later.
>>742717360Chapter 4 feels like it's the most on point here, and would have been hardest to predict.We knew Chapter 3 had something to do with TV so some kind of game show wasn't out-there prediction, and we knew Toriel would be involved too. There also wasn't Purple SOUL mode in the chapter.
>>742723372All we know is Ralsei saying BAD BAD BAD, KILL KILL KILLWe don't know the other side of things, like why Kris and the knight want to willingly bring them into the world.
>>742723445Normally I wouldn't either but literally everything implies Kris just straight up evicted Noelle from her life. This might be a me thing, but I feel that at that point the only sensible thing you can do is accept it.
>>742723392Because deep down, some part of him wants it to happen. He might be trying to protect Noelle at all costs from the prophecy, but he also wants their relationship to come back. So when you go on a route that very clearly breaks everything and renders the prophecy moot, it means he can finally claim that childhood sweetheart he'd been distancing himself from for years.
Yup
>>742723445ch5 very heavily implies noelle let it slip on her end because she started to believe she was the one forcing their relationship on kriswe know that isn't true and kris does care a lot about noelle, but it's been so long that noelle started twisting her own memories on it
>>742721432>deeb goncern
>>742723537Ralsei basically explained that they represent the inherent fear of the darkness going out of control. It's pretty easy to understand and fits with everything we know about the Dark World.The real question is generally what causes it and what it would look like for a Titan to reach the "real" world.
>>742723467>The Knight is Dess fused with a dark fountain after trying to seal it with a monster's soul.>Saving her requires Kris to "seal" her like a fountain, destroying the Knight form and returning Dess to normal.>Dess can be found.>Dess can be saved.Asriel's Deer gf is coming home.
>>742723372this felt true, until you suddenly get punished for attacking a nightmare creature that a somewhat trustworthy character said was ok to kill. now either Toby fucking forgot or there's actually more to Titans that we just haven't been told
>>742714435You forgot>born non-white
>>742723467i had my own theory that an entity similar to the player was with dess before the game began and it left her in the darkness for the giggles and they thought the player is the "demon" heart
>>742723467You're thinking about it too much. The original dark fountain is still around. Asgore didn't explore it further because Toby didn't think about the details yet.
>>742723659Titans are Darkner versions of the darkness itself.
>>742723445It's like everyone already forgot Ch4 Weird Route, where Noelle gets just a little more confident and immediately invites Kris to her room to make out
What is the best gift to give to the VESSEL in ch 1?
>>742721725freckles and ears match (ear folds are like fingerprints) would have to be a professional glowie to deepfake it.
>>742722720>>742723010The most interesting thing is that these two scenes are flagged. This means they’ll have an impact on something later on.
>>742723537>like why Kris and the knight want to willingly bring them into the world.Boring Answer is Kris and the Knight feel like you can and want to see if you can stop a Titan
>>742723756I gave it voice. I hope it shows up and opens a can of JARONA on some ass.
>>742723725That does seem the most likely. The only real question is what EXACTLY is causing Dark Fountains to start appearing now.Or are we just supposed to believe Dess was the first person in human history to stab the ground with Determination?
>>742723756I think I gave mine bravery.
>>742722198Wasn't this supposed to be possible if you talked to berdley on the phone in chapter 4?
>>742723756Reminding of choices:>>PLEASE GIVE IT A GIFT.>KINDNESS>MIND>AMBITION>BRAVERY>VOICE
>>742721432here's a sequel/prequel
>>742723756kindness
>>742723731>Make outI honestly think she was one step away from giving up her virginity. >>742723805I will bow in sillent admoratio
>>742723598Cucked
>>742723756A huge dick
>>742723907Now that's AI
>>742721432its ai you fucking tards
>>742723756My young nigga's got ambition for days and has been waiting for years to finally act upon it.
>>742723756We don't know.
>>742722249Kill yourself Dessfag
>>742723434fuuuuuuuuuuck thatscuuuuuuuuuuute
>>742723756MIND because I'm guessing that's how it gets magic
>>742723862>gift your vessel a voice>it just repurposes everyone else's voice clips>IT'S T! V! TIME- TO BE A BIG- SUSTINGUS!
>>742723907liminal AI hellscape background
>>742723925*Bow in silent admiration if he gives us a non weird route Noelle ending.
>>742722860>t. virgin
>>742723868>The only real question is what EXACTLY is causing Dark Fountains to start appearing now.it's because of Rudy's sickness.
>>742721432If you played this chapter and saw the character of Blue and still think Toby is an active /v/ user you NEED to kill yourself.
>>742723756Worst is easily kindness, because you have to Get Stronger to beat ch7.
>>742723756>>742723895The fact that it defaults to MIND if you skip the first chapter tells me that you shouldn't choose it, we don't need a second Kris
>>742723756Do you really need to ask?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3xK3_7cjag
>>742723965>Evidence:
>>742723367Good prediction, but I'm not sure how Toby will fit everything into 2 chapters. Noelle is probably going to join the party due to the in-game equip flavor texts, and I assume that chapter 7 is going to be the Shelter dark world.
>>742724006>vessel walks up to the gang in castle town and says "hey guys">jump over to it>"you gave it VOICE CLIPS?!"
>>742724006Vessel if a walking youtubepoop>AND YOU FIND DESS>AND YOU FIND DESS>AND YOU FIND DESS
>>742723092Nah. Keeping to himself and becoming nothing more than a twitter account was the best choice even if that makes anything IRL cringe. the fandom is actually that bad.He probably looks somewhat different in his 30s for enough plausible deniability if a freak schizo catches him outside.
>>742723731The reason why Noelle seems like she's attracted to Kris in Ch.4 weird route is because she actually sort of is through a hilarious coincidence.In Ch.2 weird route you basically emotionally manipulate her and then terrify her with creepypasta "it WASN'T a dream" shit. Then between 2 and 3, Kris goes and comforts her and tries to clean up after us. Noelle openly states that she likes things that are scary because she'll be comforted afterward, and between the you and Kris, you've pushed all of her buttons
>>742724006Stare at Kris and do nothing but make YTP sentence mixing bullshit until he apologies for the stunt with the hockey puck.
>>742724052I think Toby was trying to go for Magypsy but ended up landing on Zesty Blue George Floyd with Fairy Wings
>>742720743Can she have an orgasm with just a head pad?
Do you think Vessel will be our friend if it appears?
>>742723868>Or are we just supposed to believe Dess was the first person in human history to stab the ground with Determination?If more people knew that was possible then someone would have started making as many fountains as possible for no reason except "Because I can, fuck you!" and the world would have been destroyed long before Kris' biological great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-*DEEP BREATH*-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparents were born.
>>742723965>>742724008y-yeah...
>>742722402H E A V E N
How in the fuck can you people post sleeping pictures of the guy (even if they are AI) and discuss it like that and not be deeply ashamed of yourselves? it's so weird
>>742724189I'm not discussing literal nothingburgers.
>>742724189Not at my PC could someone spam loli and gore at this newfag? Thx
>>742724189This is a stalker schizo from /vg/
>>742723805>The most interesting thing is that these two scenes are flagged. This means they’ll have an impact on something later on.Fuck, I need to replay Chapter 5. I want the kriselle ending.
>>742724052if you think we don't have woke 4chan users you haven't been to /soc/
>>742724175>2013 >tricky tony iconthis nigga ain't even trying
>>742724169I think the Vessel will act like our Joan D'Arc/most loyal follower.They have their own "mind" but they still put (You) above everything else.
>>742723925>Noelle jumps Kris in her bedroom>Asgore and Susie share a delicious snake tray in the living roomEveryone wins, we were so close
>>742724189You haven't even seen the guy who kept spamming AI nudes of Temmie Chang.
>>742724230Fucking nerve of this doewhore who said she feels more at comfort with Kris being there.
>>742724137> the fandom is actually that bad.While you are correct. Under/Deltarune fandom is honestly not THAT bad. Bottom fandoms are Dragon Ball, Star Wars, Harry Potter, and comic books. I wouldn't even put Under/Delta fags on the same level as Pokemon, Touhou, Star Trek, and Warcraft.
>>742724175even the bots called it fake anon
>>742724170Your explanation is precisely why Last Thursdayism is a belief for Deltarune and that its existence as a game is far more literal than Undertale ever was, because otherwise you have to wonder how sapient life didn't create a catastrophic fuckup that doomed the world.
>>742724230fuck it i'm making them kiss
>>742724169it's your body so yeah it better. probably will be in a thrash machine situation where someone will be using it beforehand
>>742724261How woke are anons there?
>>742724303Kris should have just jumped on top of Noelle.She would have instantly offered her body and 99% of weird route players would have accepted that.
>You dont snowgrave berdly>he never gets a zenkai boostMaybe freezing the chicken for later is a good idea
>>742724408>inb4 that fucking cat hijacked our vessel
>>742724189relax, this is the same guy we are talking abouthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwampY_jIdgwe are just poking fun at his old photos, nothing malicious
>page 10>740 postsWe aren't reaching 1000 posts anymore. It's over...
>>742724346I'm just saying, the whole fountain thing is the kind of thing that a secret cult would be founded just to prevent it from becoming public knowledge and dooming the world. Who knows, maybe Carol is or was in that cult.
>>742724261Yea they all leave or shut the fuck up since they can't enforce a consensus via moderator silencing of opinions
>>742719480>Kris starts becoming corpselike>Susie and Noelle can't kill me and even if they try to do some dumb banishment attempt (which would fail) it would just doom Kris and they wouldn't do that.>If they try FIGHTing me you just put the two characters you wanted to protect in danger as no fucking way are they going to beat meGood job idiot
>>742724170A cheap out for this one is that the Dark Fountain, or the source of it, is uniquely under hometown and nowhere else.
>>742720098>screenshot of the flowersno way this wasn't made by toby
The Vessel isn't going to appear every again.
>>742723128Except she doesn’t understand why the others were doing it
>>742716524Why did our bro not accept HOPE?
>>742724492It's been a week, buddy.
>>742724549Shut up second voice in the intro.
>>742724143>The reason why Noelle seems like she's attracted to Kris in Ch.4 weird route is because she actually sort of is through a hilarious coincidence.No. The reason is that Kris broke his own rule and approached her. In Chapter 4, during the Weird Route, Kris decides to break his own rule and visit Noelle without us at night to comfort her. Noelle was so happy to see Kris that she burst into tears. That old Kris, the one who didn't keep his distance from her, is back.
>>742720553To be fair in the angel wings case, we already knew that's something Noelle's had in mind since Chapter 2, when she was telling Susie what she'd like to do without consequence since she thought Cyber World was a dream.Everything else is uncannily accurate though.
>>742724549its traits we gave it are saved in the files. That's a pretty big clue
>>742724537you could access the flower shop since Chapter 1, what's really crazy is how accurate chapter 4 is>Ralsei acting sus>Angel imagery>Bishop chess piece when the Jackenstein fight also uses a Bishop to reference Chapter 4>Green soul
>>742724420I don't bad-mouth people for their innate qualities.
>>742723756>>742723895Mind of course
These threads feel so refreshing compared to the rest of /v/
>>742724549Wrong.
>>742724734it also correctly predicted that the roaring would start in chapter 5, nobody else could have known that
>>742724549chapter 2 showed us our choices for the thrash machine in chapter 1 ended up not only showing up, but affected the attacks it hadi'm assuming the things we chose for the vessel in chapter 1 will carry over in chapter 7 (or 6)
The vessel is the knight
>>742724774When /v/ actually talks about a vidya games, and not culture war and cooming ad infinitum, it's pretty fun.
>>742724323incorrect. the others have a wide appeal and can be admitted to in public. 2hu you might have a point, but with disney adult tier shit the lows are still statistical outliers. case and point i can admit I like harry potter to a woman and have a soft spot for the books since i read em as they came out and brush it off without having to defend myself.caring about deltarune is something I only admit to my closest friends and even then comes with gallons of copium and excuses. UT/DR is way more concentrated and thus drags the overall average down to obsessive teenage autism. mix in the actual oldfag schizos and the 'normal' passing cyborgs are suddenly the outliers forced into congregating on /v/ because the pronoun police run the rest of the fandom.
>>742724672>No. The reason is that Kris broke his own rule and approached her. In Chapter 4, during the Weird Route, Kris decides to break his own rule and visit Noelle without us at night to comfort her. Noelle was so happy to see Kris that she burst into tears. That old Kris, the one who didn't keep his distance from her, is back.This is literally what I am saying. Kris has been weird, different, and distant. Then this different Kris terrorized her with creepypasta shit. Then the REAL Kris showed up that night and comforted her. That's like her recipe for instantly needing a new pair of panties.
Kris is the vessel
>>742724774that's what you get when people are actually invested in talking about games instead offtopic shit
>>742724835>it also correctly predicted that the roaring would start in chapter 5Huh? When did it start?
