Let's discuss furry Persona also known as Deltarune
>>742798263What
>>742799160
Does anyone have that one edited screen shot of Berdly stopping Kris from reaching Noelle at the lake, saying "Gamers don't die, they just respawn?"
How do we unlock Krusie true route?
>>742801920She'll need to learn the hard way. Kris doesn't have to be the only one to be tortured by the Delta Rune.
>>742798263the knight is jesus christ theoryfits with the christmas themefits with the stand user themefits with the persona theme
https://youtu.be/1kGmc1BOyPY>The fucking part at 1:55>This theme playing as Susie completely loses her shit at Flowery yelling she'll never give up Castle Town because "it's our home">This theme playing as Ralsei screams and hyperventilates, nearly at tears, yelling that he doesn't want any of this but if he changes it all just gets worse Everything about this chapter is setting up for thermonuclear apocalyptic collapse of the party in chapter 6But Tobert REALLY needs to deliver
>>742798263>furry PersonaHuge missed opportunity to call it Fursona
What DO they want, after all?
>>742799510>Kris taller than NoelleFake.
>>742803638What about the cheese theory?
>>742804309Unironically doe pussy
>>742804314She's a big doe.
This game made me cut off my dick and also balls
>>742804757How are you going to impregnate Noelle now
>>742804597For (Me).
>>742804953For Kris
>>742804953grossCHADs keep winning
>>742798263Persona jokes are funny because Chapter 5 has honestly convinced me that if the whole cast were humans the fanbase would genuinely be 100x more autistic than it is now
>>742798263Persona 4 Weird Route where Nanako takes the role of Noelle when?
>>742798263
>>742804309Noelle wants the Vessel+SoulSusie wants KrisKris wants SusieRalsei wants to be real
>>742798263>Comparing Deltarune to Persona>When Deltarune tries everything in its power to avoid its RPG systems
Why the fuck was Berdly so scandalized about Kris joining their group project if they're friends
>>742805250>Kris wants SusieI don't think so
Mad Mew Mew is a terrible boss actuallyYou guys had me fooled from posting her so much
>>742800268i never did like that meme
>>742805489>>742805250He wants both for different reasons, do you not remember what being a teenager was like?
>>742805458ALL OUT ATTACK is going to be added in Chapter 6 as it's now 4 character battle team
>>742805630>He thinks Ralsei going to see any action in chapter 6
Is Rudy black?
>>742805469she gets to sit around the middle of the secret boss ladder for me
>>742805827No but Carol is.
>>742805827rudy is a fucking deer
>>742805630>attackno sneedie pie, we're five chapters in and you still don't seem to understand.You're going to ignore it and ACT instead and your going to sit there and like it.
>>742805827Looks Hispanic to me
>>742805850meant for >>742805529
deltaxisters ...
>>742805757Everyone is saying the mage leaves the party, but why? Can anyone draw a scenario why he'd leave?
>>742805923She is the most badly designed though.In order, I would rank them like this:Knight > Jevil > Spamton Neo > Gerson > Mew
>>742805884Sword route you'll reenact the Eram gameTrust the plan
Cuck gameCuck fanbase
>>742806175It's the thinking mans fetish
>>742806032>Susie is TooruDoes she have a variant of Wonder of U that corrects the universe so that everyone thinks her romantic relationships are amazing regardless of how they act otherwise?
>>742798263Deltarune isn't really furry persona outside of Chapter 2.
>>742805827AIIIIEEE MIJA NOELLE IT'S ALMOST YOUR QUINCEANERA
>>>/vg/
>>7427982633 of those characters die by the end of Persona 3.
i made a deltafell take
>>742806175it's not cucking if you're not in a relationship
>>742804308Kris can like it and still try to stop you because he doesn't want the consequences or doesn't want to involve noelle.
>>742798263WHERE ARE ASGORE AND UNDYNE
https://files.catbox.moe/wtavx7.mp4
>>742806286what is noelle in it?
>tells ralsie he wants him to be happy>he goes for the jugularwhat did the faggoat mean by this?
>>742806054for me it's likeSpamton > Jevil > Mew > Gerson > Knightnot to say the Knight is bad obviously. Love an actually difficult fight but outside of that i don't really care beyond hype moments and the surprise factor
>>742805860Yes mario, we know, how else would they have gotten dess and noelle?
>>742798263Okay, why is everything so trans and gay in this video game?
>>742805827>>742806237>AYAYAY NOELLE WE NEED TO SWOON THOSE GRINGOS ENCHILADA STYLE LIKE MY ABUELA USED TO DO BACK IN THE CINCO DE MAYO
>>742803312After 5's weird route this is an unironic cinematic parallel, Noelle is the pushy one.
>>742806364this is really good lol
>>742806217c-cute....
>>742798263Who's our nigga in Persona?https://files.catbox.moe/pgx0aq.mp3
>>742804309For the story to never end.
>>742806439iunno actually. but definitely not dess-like, that would be cringe flowery will be DIO tho>>742806364my FUARKING hero
>>742806364I have noticed that he have been real whiny lately.
>>742805161People are very autistic about the flower humans but most autistic fandoms are furry ones.
>>742804309Kris wants to keep Noelle out of the Dark World adventures to protect her.Susie wants to keep having adventures with Kris because he's her first friend.Ralsei wants to avoid the prophecy's end to protect his friends but is stuck following rules he can't explain.
>>742806680He's talking about Poppy's Playtime, not Deltarune
>>742805827Yes if he's the Knight.
>>742798263Shouldn't Noelle be Mitsuru, rather than Yukari?>lacks such agency that she allows her board members to arrange her marriage (also, her helpers are the ones who pick her clothes)>grateful to MC for showing her new things and forging her own path devoid of other peoples' expectations>secretly enjoys riding motorcycles at high-speeds and other "rebellious" acts>father was the head of a major corporation, knew more about the game's content than he let on>everyone assumes she's untouchable, but she's actually super submissive>friendship with the only other female cast member helps each other move on from their sorrow
>>742806569Cutest Delta Human.
>>742798263Is persona similar to deltarune? I've never played any of the games or remakes
>>742798263I can’t wait for the weird route to have a 10 minute lecture on why I’m a bad person and why I should’ve let Noelle and Susie fuck each other!
>>742806364I only just managed to figure out this was actually about Poppy's Playtime.
>>742800268
wait, is aqua just flandre
Does Susie still go full Escapist Hell if you do a FIGHT/Minimum Recruit run?
>>742806917No.
>>742806606
>>742804309Kris wants the Soul to fuck off without it killing them, Susie wants to have chaotic fun with her friends, Ralsei wants to not be a doormat and also your credit card number, Noelle wants purple dragon tail in her cooch.
>>742806032>extremely kino halfway point climax >after which a new spotlight hogging character is introduced that irritates everyone >the plot meanders until the antagonist is introduced in the ass end of the story>ends with a deus ex machina whimper >a bunch of plot threads and mysteries are explicitly said "don't really matter dude lol" >while ignoring all the characters and development generated by the first half
>>742806937Thank you kind anon.
Noelle won't make it to the castle town in Chapter 6. Carol grounded her.
>>742806952She's touhou like.
>>742806302It can be
>>742805469He was constantly trying to feel superior to others until queen’s castle. He still calls kris no. 3 of the class, so it’s not like he hates him
Kris and Susie look like this?
>>742806968Yeah. Darkners will be missing (except for a Swatchling) but she still prepared the Noelle welcome party
>>742807110No, obviously not, Toby has retconned Susie into being a gross retard dyke
Confess
>>742807209>retconnedKris was her FRIEND, she barely knows (You) existAnd Kris is using her to fill the Dess shaped hole in his heart.
>>742807209why did he do it bros...
>>742807209she's always been at least two of those things
>>742807250Futas suck
>>742807032Based Kris. I hope he has a plan for the shit that's coming.
>Vessel vs Fun gang >1 vs 3>Megalovania starts playing
>>742806048>Can i go?>Susie: Nah Ralsei, i need to train my healing and Noelle is already a mage>at least i will close my eyes and imagine how they fight without meThis is going to be Toby' writing
>>742806952She's an amalgam of Touhou tropes mostly centered on stage 1 and 2 bosses. She's like Rumia-Cirno-Kogasa-Chen.
>>742806364fucking kek, fits like a glove
>>742807375Having to beat the entire party to get a good end would be a peak ending actually.
aqua Elin sprite
>>742806286I'm really digging these designsI love how Ralsei actually has black fur and he looks masculineAlso, the AU's name is Defernull (anagram of Underfell), and there were some designs made by the very same guy who made Underfell in the first placeHere's where you can find more of the designshttps://underfell.tumblr.com/DNAU>>742806679>spoilerthat's a 10/10 decisionthat's the vibes I got from Flowery
>>742807375BASEEEEEED.
>>742803831one last magical adventure before shit finally starts spreading through the room>>742807032so in chapter 6 they'll have to infiltrate the ice palace dark world. probably carol or noelle will open a fountain
>>742807323>>742807337Chapter 5 retconned Susie's motivation for hanging out with Kris in the first place to be her trying to get an in with Noelle, when we know for a fact that Susie didn't even know her at the start of the game.
>>742806606>>742806983wrong
>>742807520aqua, get those balloons out from under your dress!
>5 chapters in and still introducing questions rather than start answering when we only have 2 more leftUT started answering things by the time we got to Waterfall, yet here things just keep dragging on and on and onThis have has major pacing issues and i'm starting to have doubts if UT was a fluke and this hack won't be able to land a satisfying conclusion
one thing I didn't get is why Ralsei is okay with Susie staying overnight in the dark world. not only okay but happy, leaving cake at her bedside while she sleeps? shouldn't he be fucking alarmed? didn't he tell Susie to not get attached. and about Susie inviting Noelle into the dark world, Ralsei is okay with that too? the prophecy states three heroes, two of them lightners. they don't need a fourth
>>742805827I always thought he was and Noelle and Dess were just mixed kids with one being caramel and the other dark chocolate.
>>742807861He gave up already and is just letting whatever happens happen.
>>742807861Ralsei knows (almost) everything that will happen in the prophecy, he's playing a script. Noelle needs to come for the next events to happen.
>>742806439okay i think i get it. noelle gonna be like carol and hateful towards susie. she will be hostile-friendly. she will get jealous that her childhood friend suddenly hangs out with susie>Kris, why are you hanging out with h e r ? Come on, me and Birdly waiting you in library, we can help you.
>>742807209She always was that, people just couldn't accept it.
>>742807323>to fill the Dess shaped hole in his heart.headcanon
>>742807250We need more outfits on the Underrunes.
>>742807861>RalseiHe is in favor of prophecy. He doesn't like it, but it's his job.
>>742807375Unironically better than using it only against Susie.
>>742808071>i believe it can changeso he changed his mind off screen?
>>742807520Zamn!!!!
>>742807375damn right, it's OUR goddamn theme i'm not letting that skeleton fuck take it from me
>>742808117He thinks it's possible, but not through things he can do.He's a defeatist darkner nigga.
>>742807861i mean the whole reason he made them rooms in the first place was 'so they could always have somewhere to go'dont defending susie's turn into fall into fantasyland but she is technically using the castle for it's intended purpose although i assume ralsei meant actual danger and not susie being delusional about what's happening
>>742808117His opinions and words don't matter. He has a job, and he'll finish it.
>>742807861He was trying to help Susie not get too attached because of the ending of the prophecy, but she already knows what it is now.
>>742806032'The Knight is a stand' theory grows more plausible by the day
>>742808189Your pacifist Sans fight using it?
>>742807110I wanna peel a scale off
>>742798263Deltarunes plot desperately needed to be a persona game instead of cramming 5 chapters worth of content into 3 in game days. It's part of the reason why the ship scene looks absolutely retarded because none of the cast gave each other the time of day 4 days ago.
>>742807815its obvious that toby is bullshitting too much with this gameits not like he has the sense of urgency that he likely had while making undertale due to his obvious wealth
>>742808316well he's gonna have to give it back isn't he
I finished homestuck
>>742808426And now you know
>>742808426Why the hell did you do that
>>742808426I'm sorry.
>>742808426My condolences. Did you at least like the beginning half?
>>742808426Just in time for Homestuck 2!
>>742804309For things to go back to how they were before ie when things werent shit
>>742808336Noelle has been thirsting over Susie since chapter 1 though? Like even when survey program came out it was obvious.
>>742808426nigga...
>>742808426You were warned to stop at Cascade and you didn't listen.
>>742808497>Noelle has been thirsting over Susie since chapter 1 thoughBut the why is more complex than it appears on the surface, its not because she's a masochistic freak(that's only part of it)
>>742806459Because MUH RULES
>>742808426>Willingly reading the shit teenage girls and transmascs larp because they want to act like they'rre suuuuper into this totally niche nerdy stuff XDBlow your head smooth off twin.
>>742807815It is starting to get concerning, however I'm still have (c)hope that Chapter 6 and Chapter 7 are going to be absolutely massive chapters or we'll get a Chapter 0/8
>>742808426i'm so fucking sorry that happened to you
>>742808426nigga whaat why would you do that to yourself??
how do you want deltarune to end?
>>742808426but why though
>>742806459Ralsei is failing at being a darkener, he wants to be real. He’s being forced to confront that just like Flowery can only pretend to be human, he can only pretend to be real.
>>742808426its ok anon, you didnt know it would be THAT bad.
>>742807609>deltarune is just gaster and whatever force behind the prophecy doing an experiment to see if people can overcome their fate>gaster is just nyarly
>>742808887I wouldn't want an ending, just like my HEROINE
>>742807815i think it's because toby doesn't want people to guess any of the big twists before they happen, but this has the problem of not having any proper clues or set up until the twist happens this is a huge flaw with the episodic release format, especially when there have been multiple years between chapters and the present format seems to be one chapter per year there's a reason why every single theory has been btfo except for femkris and that one feels more like a fluke than anything considering we had no way of predicting aqua
>>742808887Sans and Papyrus arriving at Snowdin
>>742808426...of all the words of tongue and pen...
>>742808887I unironically think that "Drowning" theory video from like a day before Chapter 5 came out actually proposed an ending that wouldn't be terrible
It feels like Carol is is Kris's godmother yet Rudy is not Kris's godfather.Kinda weird how that goes
>>742808887I literally have zero expectations of anything at this point.
>>742807375This but Megalo Strike Back for ultimate fanservice kino
>>742808336Don’t worry, with the power of retconning we can force it to make sense
>>742801920Invent a time machine and stop Tobias.
>>742808767>spoilerI wouldn’t be surprised if there’s something else shadowdropped on christmas
>>742808484Its interesting how much undertale and espially deltarune borrows from it, to the point that I think the plot will end up following homestucks scratch bullshitTbh I enjoyed it well enough until the retcon. Its obvious that he just stopped caring after that, and at least some characters i really liked. and then I found out roxy troons out and rose cheats on kayana with James futa dog penis and they have a child named Yiffiny in the sequel. Like fucking why?
Why did she do it?
>>742806937Reminder that Kris canonically hates Berdly for trying to pick the same route as him.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOIT'S ASRIEL ALL OVER AGAIN FUCKTOBY YOU HACK
>>742809246I saw a tweet where someone said Toby won't actually do a drop on 12/25 because he knows his sperg audience will play his videogame instead of spending time with their family and it would make him feel bad
>>742809152nah both asgore and toriel have always been cool with rudy the reason you might feel that was is probably because carol seems like she would actually take it seriously while rudy wouldn't act any differently
>>742807375>its megalomania and toby somehow got the rights for it
>>742807209Fake red herring romance to raise stakes in the finale. The agenda is still active.
>>742809331https://files.catbox.moe/jcwj4l.mp4
>>742808887I want Suselle to not happen solely to see how much of a shitshow it generates.
>>742809293Man this is just a reminder just how much of a nothingburger Berdly has been since chapter 2.Like holy shit he doesn't even try to approach susie to spill spaghetti, why the fuck now?
>>742809354From what I'm understanding, most people in this fandom don't have a good relationship with their family
>>742809525FASTER
>>742807375Vessel, Friend, Mike and Normal NPC are all Papyrus tier meme irrelevant characters that will never get any important role other than creepy pastas and theory crafting red herrings to take your attention from Noelle Knight and the Lake song
>>742809453Nigga I thought the same in chapter 4 but it's fucking over, Toby went full tumblr.
>>742809540Is that why they all hate Carol?
>>742803831>meanwhile the soul:>haha funny megaman guitar riff goes tu turutu turururu
>>742809601just like gaster in undertale
>>742806286noelle (i could do better. prolly need some sleep)
>>742809369No I just mean in terms of dialogues Rudy doesn't feel fatherly toward Kris at all. He speaks to Kris like an outsider that he tolerates, sometimes almost begrudgingly it feels like. Carol's cheating a little because we've seen so little of her but the one time we do she's super affirming toward Kris Even though we're told Carol is much more protective of the home, from all the ch4 dialog in the house vs the stuff Rudy says in the hospital, it feels like Carol was much warmer to Kris's presence than RudyRudy complains about how Kris interacted with Noelle multiple times, whereas Noelle and Rudy never once mention Carol taking any action against KrisEven with the secret alt dialog where you fuck around turning all the Santas on in the house, the way Carol scolds Kris is very matter of factual about the batteries, no hostility in it.
>>742809601"The vessel" doesn't even exist except as a rhetorical device to say "actually fuck your choices, you're playing as this guy, and also he hates you"
>>742807861Why is Ralsei happy if he works with Kris and Kris doesn't want to have Noelle in the dark world?? Is Kris alone on this entire plan to switch Noelle with Susie???
>>742809601Normal NPC and sans are important but the game isn’t going to directly acknowledge what they’re doing and why, you will have to put it together from context clues
>>742809658its funny how people are so obsessed with a character that is not intended to be anything but vaguepostingGaster is the mystery of who Gaster is, he's not a real entity
>>742808887>how do you want deltarune to end?
>>742809374megalomania will play for the Gaster fight where he will speak normally for the first time and say tl;dr: eat shit, faggots
Fuck off.>>>/vg/
>>742805827>>742805894So you're saying Noelle is a mixed white-hispanic girl next door?It explains the manic behavior
>>742808887>what I wantdark worlds properly explained, dess is "found/saved" (she is the knight), doing weird route is mandatory to get items that you bring back to unlock 3rd route and the game won't chide you for itsuselle breaks up and doesn't return>what I expectthe normal route won't end in a good ending BUT doing weird route past chapter 5 "brands" your save as "tainted" and the game will be preachy about how "evil" and "gross" you arewe get no explanation on the dark worlds besides some surface level stuffdess isn't the knight and she just comes back for no reason as if nothing happenedgame never shows asriel, as soon as he steps on screen it cuts to blacksuselle does break up but get together "for real" in the "golden" ending
>>742808426millennials hate us zoomers for "being retards" and this is the shit they pushed out. they weren't conditioned by social media or algorithms since their childhood, they did homestuck out of their own volition. never forget that
What are the most exciting/tantalizing names you can think of for any final boss tracks? >Let's skip any megalovania shit though
>>742808887Like this but with Susie and Kris french kissing instead of Alphyne
>>742807562that didn't happen
>That depiction of someone's aunt fills you with power >Save
>>742808887With us at least knowing what Gaster is.
>>742809809works for her brown/blonde mix going onand the huge rack
A Deltarune thread? On MY /v/?!
>>742808426We warned you dog
>>742809864to be fair, our education system was hijacked and designed to push out idealogues
>>742809867Egocide for the weird route final boss
>>742808887I don't want it to end.90% of the fun is the retarded theories and mistery.An actual ending is going to suck and disappoint everyone no matter what.
>>742809867The Angel [Spoiler]The Dragon for WR[/spoiler]
>>742809181That's for the solo Kris fight ONLY.
>>742809331>>742809459With Chapter 5 revealing the Black Shard connection to the original Incident (Oh, that terrible, terrible day...) and the fact that whoever the Knight is presumably played the same make-believe games that Kris did, given how similar and seemingly interconnected the characters of their Dark Worlds are, it pretty much has to be one of the four original children, no? And assuming we aren't doing some goofy time-travel amalgam or Asriel Is The Villain 2: Electric Boogaloo shit, what exactly is Dess doing, and why is she doing it?
>>742809885how did papyrus earn a driver's license so fast
>>742809293Funny how the first pick was still Noelle, though.
>>742809931Anon...that's never going to happen.
I finished Act 1 of Homestuck and found it charming if a little slow. I could see how people could get attached to these characters. It also feels like the author is just throwing in shit he read about and thinks is cool, like people's inventories being based on different sorting algorithms (or something like that, it's been a few months).Then it showed some guy in a wasteland looking at it all in a bunker or something and I felt like it was a little early to be getting all meta or whatever. There were no trolls. I hear people say stuff like "just read to cascade". But is cascade or whatever actually a good "jumping off point"?I wouldn't want to walk away on a "really tantalizing cliffhanger" or something.
>>742809860>suselle does break up but get together "for real" in the "golden" ending>nobody ever finish the game for some reason
>>742809525She's already getting the off-model fanart.
>>742809707perhaps rudy might hold kris somewhat accountable for the incident that happened that day, but also understand that it probably wasn't kris' fault i don't think he actively dislikes kris, or at the very lease he doesn't want to, but i think it's safe to assume that carol is cooler with kris than rudy is, yeah
I see the Deltarune threads have slowed down a lot.
>>742808426reading it rn (p 7162)whats wrong with it? i think its fun
>>742809931that's definitely going to happen
>>742809771What Christmas themed name would their mutant baby have
>>742810014He was the only one who's life energy wasn't drained from having to deal with the DMV
>>742810090that's not even fucking aqua at that point that's just kris
>>742809601>>742809724Gayest posts ITT
>>742810090Who the fuck is this
>>742808426I was a huge Homestuckfag for like 4 years and not even I finished HomestuckYou poor bastard
Does Tropical Starwalker appear even if you didn't get the original in chapter 1?If so... Is star walker going to be important?
>>742809994That Pippin is the most likely one to pull an Noelle tier crashout I swear
>>742810081>But is cascade or whatever actually a good "jumping off point"?Yeah, actually. Like there are still dangling plot threads, but it's a genuinely good conclusion.
>almost two weeks>still almost zero porn of the lake sceneWhat gives? Couch "rape" got way more way earlier.
>>742798263AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!
>>742810083All of the tumblr normoids are going to finish it for sure. I’d like just for once for their golden gooses to kick them in the dick though.
>>742806032man arakis style is so shit now.
>>742810108You are right at the point it gets really bad
>>742810090>draw a femkris>call it aquasoon to be many such cases
>>742809860>>742810083if the weird route is ever mandatory people will make mods to let you skip it and people will openly use them as the "intended experience" just to not have to touch the "evil" route
https://poal.me/c8gwdehttps://poal.me/c8gwdehttps://poal.me/c8gwdeAnswer my poll
>>742807375>the vessel is on the right side of the screen instead of the leftit's such a small thing but it would be so cool
>>742810013I'm going with the FFX theory that the prophecy is fucking cyclical and everyone who successfully ends the previous knight becomes the next Knight.Kris is colluding with the current knight to try to become the next sacrificial sucker which is why they are constantly trying to distance themself from everyone and set up Susie with Noelle against their own interests.
>>742810125Mary
>>742810247I’m surprised there isn’t any of Noelle pushing Kris to the floor and forcibly riding them.
>>742810264>I’d like just for once for their golden gooses to kick them in the dick though.Already the case with CH5.
>>742808426I gave up like halfway into chapter 2, could not get into it at all. You're a stronger anon than me
>>742810217he does, starwalker's gag was paid off in chapter 5 already
>>742809724the game constantly reminds you of the thrash machine, which itself was to remind the player of the gooner maker in the opening it will be important
>>742810247Because one of the scenes is two teenagers fucking on a couch and the other one is two teenagers drowning in a lake. One of them is significantly more amenable to porn. Also, one of the scenes is good, while the other one is retarded. The point of the weird route until now was making Noelle do what we want, why the fuck wouldn't we stop her from drowning us?
>>742798263do deltarune threads get deleted because of that gay diaperfur polish mod that deletes any anthro female content on sight? it having 2 "furry" females and a human male makes these faggots blood boil
there is a single character who has been teased and built up over a whole game and more than half of a bigger one. do you think even toby has the skill to make the payoff worth it?
>>742810367No it’s not. I need all routes to reject them, not one. Particularly one they just ignore.
>>742807537what WOULD happen if you tried to take a picture of something in the dark world? would it just end up being/turning into a picture of the light world equivalent?
>>742809707I got more of a 'cool uncle' vibe from Rudy. He pokes fun at Kris at lot but there isn't any hostility to it and he seems glad that Kris started visiting him at the hospital.
>>742809262I read it last year and yeah the retcon really fucked my investment. Never finished the epilogues, and here's the kinda thing Hussie is posting these days
>>742810226>Image friend is speculated to control dice roles>Pippin is a dice>Would be able to Gain Deterministic control on their dice rolls if they somehow got trance on a FRIENDhmmm
>>742810332>no more control for the soul optionshit poll
>>742810412wrong, the point of the weird route was making noelle stronger
>>742809570
>>742809601>Normal NPCthere's gotta be a reason why he doesn't have a non-goner counterpart in Undertale. The fact he stands out from the rest of G followers makes me believe he will have bigger role than other followersAlso, clam guy/clam girl gotta be connected to Gaster too. Clam girl is the only NPC to ever mention Suzy/Susie, and becomes Clam goner.Clam guy talks shit about onionsan and even knows he's gone
>>742808426Welp at least now you're free to play Toby's other obvious inspiration, Monster Girl Quest
>>742807032I hope Carol actually doea have a casual rapport with Kris. Would be funny
>>742810482you think TRANCE DOWN will give (you) more control? get your head checked nigga you might have dyslexia
>>742808943Is he a Titan spawn?
Important Toby Fox update.
>>742810550no more cut to black cutscenes duhget real faggot
>>742809459whoever recorded this fucking sucks at the game
>>742810527clam also changes from the girl sprite to the male one when you talk to him in ch2 iircthese grey fucks are up to something
>>742810445Would make sense that's the case, yeahOr it'd just be a blank black picture
>>742810217Tropical Starwalker wouldn't really need to be dependent on OG Starwalker considering the joke is a repeat of the original.
>>742810527Sounds like normalNPC didn't kill onion san against gaster's orders, that was always part of the plan At most botching the currency type
Even if Ralsei goes trans and Suselle works out with no drama, I still don't think Deltarune could even POSSIBLY be worse than Jojolion as a completed work. Things that would have to also happen to be as bad>We never meet the Forgotten Man, chapter 5 egg is the last we see of him>Friend is retconned to also be the Knight>We never hear from Gaster again >Sans' "don't forget" baiting is dropped and we never get any kind of conclusion with what his deal is >Knight is perfectly unbeatable and can only be cut through by Susie's love for Noelle happening to perfectly aim Noelle's Snowgrave at the knight >The story just kind of ends after defeating the Knight and we sort of forget why we were here>Kris and Ralsei awkwardly visit Rudy's unconscious terminally dying body in the hospital and then the game ends
>>742810083Suselles got so many red flags that I suspect that even in the ending, it will be a maybe and "Lets start from square one like we should have" kind of thing.
https://files.catbox.moe/swji7g.jpeghttps://files.catbox.moe/o0logw.png
>>742810550Trance down would be displayed as "Trance -" not "(downward arrow) Trance"
I seen like 2 volumes of homestuck as books one time at a barns n nobles many years ago I always wondered how much different my life would have been if I got one of them
>>742810536Toby never quite recovered from the kitsunes in that game
>>742808426What's it about?
>>742810550Is it Trance (De-buff) or Trance Down? Because there really doesn't seem to be a consensus
>>742810575he knows about cheese theory
>>742810527>doesnt have a goner counterpart>sells takoyaki in Gs and corrects himself to free>intentionally blocks areas that offer insight to the world and backstory>has appeared in front of or near places that have become dark worlds consistentlyim gonna be livid if this amounts to nothing because its the most interesting part of chapter 5
Camille's Harem will soon finish the great Krusie theory video and the fandom is going to be enlightened on why Suselle is also a doomed Yuri. All through deep scene by scene analysis.
>>742810568I think most likely The Roaring keeps happening and Ralsei keeps having to just wait in darkness until the next cycle starts
>>742810412>Anon really thought Snowkino was supposed to be about porn
>>742810575>he-him'd such an obvious Kris insert in the notesI'm genuinely surprised he published this. Between this and some other stuff in ch5 he's lowkey gotten sloppy about pronoun shit.
>>742810575That's Kris
>>742810527>>742810730normal NPC's counterpart is probably Berdly, right? He's a fucked up copy of Berdly.
>>742810391>>742810653I was just curious since if a player somehow started playing deltarune now without a guide, they probably wouldn't be able to notice star walker, meaning the tropical starwalker bit could be taken as a subtle hint on how to find the real one, sorta like how the mantle game hints on how to start the weird route.
>>742810723he browses these threads
>>742810674I'm so tired of selfcest Mew. Did everyone somehow forgot how the Ghost wanted to BE inside the body during things?
>>742810421The game contain furry anthros so it would be impossible to really discuss it at all
>>742806459Because Ralsei still acts like a tool of a prophesy he wants to change but vehemently follows, instead of using all he can do and knows to help his friends. In the end Flowery was just faking his stats and assuming an all powerful stance, but he did so to give his friends enough time to live their dreams and to keep Asgore's ideal world alive
>>742808426>>742809262>>742810475I constantly fear Toby getting mentally fucked up by his insane tranny fanbase like what happened with Hussiepeople thought homestuck's cancerous fanbase was bad before but after most people left as it became increasingly shit what was leftover was even worse.
>>742810412>Rapist surprised at how rape worksmany such cases
>>742810689>>742810709what's the difference? the thorn ring makes noelle more entranced, and so presumably the twisted sword has the opposite effect
>>742810527Something tells me that Normal NPC doesn't survive the events of Deltarune the same way the other Gaster followers do. Like they are going to get dusted by either the Knight or Kris for genuinely being a serial killer in the middle of a world ending plot.
>>742810487Drowning doesn't make you stronger, retard
>>742807032That makes sense to do likeNoelle went with Susie to the festival with Susie, like defiance of the town mayor like that going unpunished seems off.Like Carol is implied to be an authoritarian type yet they didn't sic the cops on Susie for a "church break in" in ch 5.Carol can totally have the cops go at Susie and the only reason she hasn't is because undyne was the only real cop they had. Has me picturing Napstablook trying to arrest Susie only for the dog gang to distract them.
>>742810568>"When did you start being yourself?" was directed at ralsei, not kris
i will choose to believe that toby was the mysterious third femkrisfag before our numbers increased and aqua was him showing his support
>>74281047546 years old btwalso no matter how much I hate the things that Toby done for the story and how gay it has become, I'm glad he never stooped down to this level of absolute faggotry that Hussie has stooped to yet
SHUT THE FUCK UP NEW KIKKY LORE JUST DROPPED
>>742810575>the dog that represents Kris>himHoly based Toby
>>742810939>The cops >It's just fucking Blooky
>>742810758to be fair seeing Kris as anything other than a guy requires some form of extreme mental gymnasticseven Toby must be tired of triple checking everything in regards to that
>>742810703Kids get sucked into a video game, they have to beat it to save the universe, time travel hijinks ensue. Its like a proto deltarune in a lot of ways
>>742810873...median fan was in potty training when MSPaint Adventures started.
>>742810667>We never meet the Forgotten Man>Sans' "don't forget" baiting is dropped and we never get any kind of conclusion with what his deal isyou know this is exactly how both of those will play out
The timeline where the knight didn't kidnap undyne is the one where undyne is chasing Susie around the festival lolI think it'd have been funny to see that play out
>>742810970Toby was always a FemKrisfag and MaleKrisfag guy.
>>742810923If it's a trance effect that's a de-buff, that would imply we gain more direct control over whoever is using it, and if it was an effect lowering trance, that would imply whoever we are controlling gains more autonomy
>>742810445
>chad_kris69 is breaking down again
>>742811089>>742810970Oh no trannyxisters! >>742810575
>>742810994He should post a krusie fan art instead.
>>742808117He things it can change by tweaking their actions within the rules, like the logic of sparing everyone, making friends with everyone, etc. but he believes going too far from those parameters will only bring disaster faster. He's mad he's being told to fuck the parameters
>>742810931>kris and noelle are drowning themselves in the water of the lake in hometown, all of which is totally literal in gamemedia literacy moment
>>742810568WHY DOES A FLOWER HAVE SO MUCH KNOWLEDGE OF THE WO->Asgore the vaguepost kingoh god asgore knows A LOT and has been gossiping to flowery wasn't him, including knowing who ralsei is. which is why flowery and ralsei kept hiding themselves. this wasn't about looking like asriel.Ralsei is Dess theory
>>742809867>vs. The Fun GangWould be fun to fight 'em no? If someone caught that name in a leaked OST it'd cause a scene.>Yet Darker... or some play on the words of entry 17 is sure to come up no?>Healing PrayerMaybe as a play on words to Rude Buster being the first track?>Shattering HeartsFor the chair that kicks your ass.
>>742806213toby could never write something like wonder of unot saying that's a huge slight against him or anything, it's just far outside of his wheel house and would be almost impossible to explain with his style of writing. a character like wonder of u could only ever exists in a series that has gone on long enough with insane shit like jojo's.
>>742811052Like in Action 52 Cheetahmen??
>>742811126lmao, that's even funnier than it being flowery
>>742811016Like the church break in charge Susie probably can be hit with by Carol (quietly ignoring Kris being involved because of other plans for him lel) is blackmail material if Carol is meant to be like antagonist level deal. Like Susie is in the school closet. There's like multiple ways to blackmail Susie ffs.But it didn't come up so it has me think Carol is not really a real threat.
>>742811157Uh, yeah? It fucking is, retard, they're dying. Which is a pretty big fucking problem since we're currently WEARING one of these two dipshits.
>>742810108lmao that other anon is right you're right at the start of the shit point. enjoy the downward spiral.
>>742811143It has nothing to do with Kris, schizo
>>742811143mkrississies...what does this mean?
>>742810817>both in the library in chp 1Could’ve just copied his look, like how it copies words
>>742810703Kids get a magic video game based on The Sims that blows up the Earth by summoning meteors and transports them to a fantasy land where they go on cool adventures until everyone gets really fucking gay
>>742811225>Chapter 7 side B starts with the soul waking up on the shore by itselfI would clap.
Just blackmail Susie
>>742810081I firmly, firmly believe that if you treat cascade as the end of homestuck with everything after being a shitty sequel, you'd have a very fulfilling, complete story. A few lingering mysteries but nothing too big.
>>742809132>rudy knighterkino
>>742811210and now...the deltamen...
>>742810970>make kris they/them>easy free twitter points>people make both male and female kris pornFrankly, Toby is a genius.
>4chan constantly whines that women and blacks are narcissists that can only relate to characters that look like themselves, but every Deltarune thread has multiple dudes having melties at the idea of losing their HMOFA self-insert
>>742811052>Kids get sucked into a video game, they have to beat it to save the universe, time travel hijinks ensueand what caused anon to go depressed wojak mode? sounds like your average code lyoko reboot bullshit.
>>742811338An IQ too high?
>the only characters to have voice clips are Jevil and Flowery>the only characters with vocals in their fight tracks are Spamton and Mew Mewwhat did Toby mean by this
>>742811157>mfw i'm drowning
>>742810487>drowningIT'S A BAPTISMTHAT'S THE ALLEGORY
>>742811341>4chan is a girly gay homo faggot that keeps projecting their insecurities on others and women and blacks are just their target of choice by virtue of being attacked minoritiesfixed that for you.anon we have fucking goon threads that devolve into incels screeching because they're so goddamn insecure about their wieners.
>>742811401>Blue is black? he's blue though
>>742810575This is a perfect moment to check the "Cheese Theory" to learn all about Wind Struggler.
>>742810873>over 50% transchrist that's probably the first time i've ever seen THAT on a fan census, even the most autistic fandoms don't reach those numbers
>>742811401>kris haters are redditorscurious
>>742811402
>>742811402they have the gift of voice
>The Trashing Knight appears
>>742811474>another version an anon made
>>742811436meant for>>742810931
>>742811338Why was this ever debated? Wasn't it always an intention? I think it was the same with Frisk and Chara? I don't think "nonbinary" as a term even existed in early 2015
>>742810081Act 1 is pretty boring and pointless and the actual plot doesnt start until like halfway through act 2
>>742810575what the hell are the schizo replies to this post where on earth does it call kris a boy?
>>742811402I CANNOT make sense of what spamton is screeching in his theme. it's all telephone ringing and garbage noise
>>742811401kek, someone post that floyd, I don't have it
>>742811401>i went to the offensive place and got offended how could this beand thats why /v/ is the only good place to discuss deltarune, plus every good theory has come from here before normalfags pick it up years later
Cat cumming a little inside.https://litter.catbox.moe/9qmsvjnxu0cdcsua.mp4
>>742811545oh you didnt do it this time
>>742811529she doesn't say anythingher laugh is akin to Lancer's and Susie's they don't count as voice clips
>>742810674I LOVE MEWBIES
>>742811402That you make pointless patterns and connections. Might as well analyze why Blue is the only flower with face sprite beside Flowery.
>>742811052Spy Kids 3D did it first.
>>742808426i wonder when the exact moment hussie stopped caring about making something good was, was it when the fanbase just ate up dirkjake at face value, no questions asked? was it when the fanbase ate up the dancestors, most of which made almost solely to mock the fans, no questions asked? was it when he got 2 million dollars for an extremely vague kickstarter campaign? was it when his dad died?
>>742811436>>742811548In a baptism you don't hold someone under the water until they pass out
>>742811551I'm sure there was some equivalent, or the idea still existed.
>>742809867DELTA RUNE
>>742811529Better example would be Tenna, although he only has that singular voice clip unless you wanna count the intro
>>742811474>MOOOOOM!!! A new schizo theory just dropped!!!
>>742811347It goes up its own ass in all the worst possible ways, becomes an irony filled mess of faggotry, dropped plots, and bad writing, had multiple year+ long breaks between pages at one point, and most importantly gets way less funny with an absurdly unsatisfying ending
>>742811551I'm sure 4chan can think of copes, but I interpreted this dialog as acknowledging Kris's they/them preference. Kris & Noelle flashback also says they "couldn't even agree on who was king and who was queen".
>>742811341i just wanna fuck the ghost femcel inside the cat slut, me's simple enough. and we got a whole castle town for it
https://files.catbox.moe/hrc50g.mp4
Can I get a quick rundown why people dislike homestuck's ending? I know nothing about it / not planning on reading it.
>>742806364it's gonna take a straight, white male YouTuber with a big fan base for the normies outside to be objective about this chapter
>>742811401Kek actually filtered by this
>>742809867BANISH
>>742811748>Kris & Noelle flashback also says they "couldn't even agree on who was king and who was queen".by that logic either noelle is a ftm pooner or kris is a girl
>>742810153>>742810296I was also surprised that was Aqua and not Kris. Maybe people are realizing they're basically alike.
>>742810090That's an oc, literally nothing about her is aqua
>>742810632Aside from Sans, there's always something bizarre with characters who are connected to Gaster>>742810665i assumed Onionsan was getting too close from the truth from investigating the lake, so Gaster or clam guy ordered to onionsan to be gone>>742810817I don't think so, Berdly is acting normallyYou would have a point if it was Jockington>>742810927That's what I think tooYou probably fuck him and erase him from existence similar to what happened to Gaster did, which kinda explains why he looks different in Undertale. meanwhile others may simply forgot about the events and went back to their normal livesalso for reference, here's what he says in Undertale when you talk to him>I understand why ASGORE waited so long to hire a new Royal Scientist.>The previous one... Dr. Gaster.>His brilliance was irreplaceable.>However, his life... Was cut short.>One day, his experiments went wrong, and..." >Well, I needn't gossip.>After all, it's rude to talk about someone who's listening."
>>742811738What is crazy about that theory is it was written in 3+4 era. So they didn't have >Windstruggler being a blue and pink dog trying to get the cheese against the winds of fate>Kris looking into a "lost dream" shard and seeing Noelle present them a bouquet of flowers >Kris closing the festival album every time a picture of Kris & Noelle appears>"Noel Hollyday and Kris Dreamer">Kris & Noelle reaching the top of the Ferris wheel when Susie & Noelle only got halfway up, ditto for the hammer game
>>742811808I CAN'T DANCE!
>>742811545>>742811639Expectations? SUBVERTEDThat version doesn't say anything about Wind Struggler.
>You held the crystal up to your eyeWhat did you see?
>>742811798Their favourite character didn't do x and their favourite ship wasn't confirmed.
>>742807032it's just that easy. now if only we could get the dang plot moving now that we're 70% of the way into the game
>>742810758That’s why Ralsei’s getting sacrificed on the tranny altar. To distract the loudmouthed regressive types from any past, present, and future faux pas Toby may make.
>>742806364
>>742811580cheese theory memery>>742811474tl;dr wind struggler = kris, cheese = noelle
>undertale noelle on screen>no one else matterswhat did toby mean by this?
>>742811798consists of mostly nothing happening while the final boss fight happen off-screen
>>742810575wtf I'm a cheese theorist now
>>742810412Since when were you the one in control?
>>742811402Jevil and Flowery are just having a good time as gigaknowersSpamton and Mew just need to voice a bit of their insanity through the beauty of song
>>742811580Nigga read >>742811474
>>742811401It's funny because you can tell a lot of lefties come on here for these threads after chapters release since this is the only website where you can talk about some of the fucked up stuff in the game without being called an evil pervert. The language in these threads uses terms you'd never see on /v/ otherwise, people casually dropping "gnc"s and "nonbinary"s like it's nothing. Posting on twitter about being in these threads is just a fool's errand.>t. lefty who mostly comes here for these threads
if undertale is a dark world or something powered by imagination/fantasy that Sans got sucked into, the papyrus in undertale and his relationship with Sans is a synthesis of what Sans wished they had. the real papyrus was a shut in that got left behind and/or deleted.
I know this is ironic for several reasons but when I saw Blue for the first time I genuinely thought it felt a little racist
>>742811971I can't believe this sprite got cleared, by the way
>>742811998definitely something to do with the weird route and she was the only one willing to cross the lake/exiting the program
>>742811796They aren't dead.
>>742804309>No matter what>I want to keep being friends with you and Ralsei>When the sun comes up again>I want tomorrow to be the same as yesterday>And the next day>To be just the same as that>That in the end>We can always go back to the way things were before
>>742811748Susie obviously just throw shade at the idea of royalty couple being more special than their bond. It doesn't say anything about any gender role. For her the idea of being trash masters is probably cooler than that. She overall thinks Kris is the coolest guy in town based on the church interaction and the choo choo event.
>>742810412haha this dumbass didn't know what the end goal was
Kris literally and unironically needs years of therapy if they survive this shit
>Goat dad has an anime doll possessed my a NEET ghost as a wife now (I won't date mew mew since Maddie likes asgore and Kris is his son, I think Maddie isn't comfortable at all with the situation so I'm not going to push it)>Goat mom is with the jokey spook skeleton guy now (I just find it funny and I don't have any real say in the matter anyways, sorry Kris)Kris has a weird post divorce situation for sure
>>742812075>the real papyrus was a shut in that got left behind and/or deleted.Would you perhaps even say... Forgotten?
>>742812182freak freak freak freak familyfreak family (your family)
>>742812107>ugly in TWO DIFFERENT WAYS somehow (portrait and actual sprite)nah i get you if anyone other than toby did it people would think it was on purpose
>>742812107as a black man, i'm offendedstop putting black men in dresses toby, you are no better than hollywood
>>742812005built for rape
>>742812180>kris wanders into the forest and sees something so bad that all he can do in art therapy is cover it up with a tree to push the memories out>gets caught up in the prophecy that seems dead set on cucking him and ruining his home life even furtherkid cant catch a break
>>742811883Just make a Kriselle theory video. A Krusie one is being made right now.
>>742812058>go somewhere else to talk about Deltarune>type “he” because Kris looks like a boy and using non gendered person plural as “pronouns” for one person is unnatural as fuck >get swarmed by gender freaks
>>742811746sounds like an average long running shonen manga plot
>>742810994>kikkyHOLY FWARK
>>742812075Papyrus was BETRAYED by Toby and TRAPPED in the spaghetti code until chapter 7 releases.
>>742812235I think at least some people get the situation enough to only consider new new an option if you get your vessel backAssuming Kris isn't the vessel with its own identity which I feel like the boss fight implied
>>742808887my vessel either living happily in the world we saved together or if the ending disappoints me I want to erase the world
>>742805827You guys are making memes and shit but this is how I literally imagined Rudy.
>>742799510>>742804314heres the lore accurate version
>>742808426I'm sorry for your loss.just pretend everything post scratch never happened like i do
I laugh now at Blue zesty Floyd but I just know we are gonna get an even zestier Mexican character as a vengance for the translation drama
>>742812107Same. His text and in-game sprites are god-ugly. It doesn't help he's wearing a female's ballerina outfit and has an obnoxious nothingburger personality
Its MadTale Its MaddieTale Its DummyTale Its Mew Mew Tokyo
>>742812107I can't believe Toby of all people fell for the "gay portrayal of a black character looks racist" meme
>>742804309for a plot that doesn't revolve around teen romance or theory baiting
>>742812313Pretty much, and just like Bleach or Naruto people still give it shit to this day
>>742812446that looks like shit
>>742799510>>742812409>baby isn't the knightdisappointing
I don't want Ralsei to be trans because I don't think it fits well into his character or the trajectory of the story but I would still kiss her and fuck her if it happens
>>742811401the george floyd edit wouldn't be so offensive to flower-loving morons if it wasn't so apt
>>742812446this looks like a parody of Deltarune that you see in a cartoon
>>742810527I really hope Deltarune explains why Suzy is the reason Frisk fell underground without it being reincarnation bullshit.
>>742805161i don't think this fanbase could get more autistic than it already is
>>742812501What's annoying is the first chapter didn't and there was some of it in ch 2 but not too much and ch 3 had none of it while then it is everywhere in ch 4 onwards
lmao, this community is loaded with larpers, I just watched a video of someone saying that he likes to name videogame characters with their real videogame names, so he started with "Frisk" in Undertale and he said he didn't know he completed the game in hard mode for the first time.
>>742812180this ass on his face would heal any trauma instantly
>>742812301There have been multiple threads on the subreddit about whether or nots its okay to misgender Ralsei as she/her or they/them because of the """clues""" in chapter 5, and there's always mountains of comments saying "OH LET PEOPLE HEADCANON YOU BIGOTS"
>>742812409Kek
>>742811880>Berdly is acting normallyYeah, but his copy isn'tGetting copied doesn't affect you directly.
>>742811580It's an autistic theory but it proves my point that if Aqua was a boy we would never hear the end of it.
>>742812238milklooker has slowly grown on me and is easily in my top 5 lightners after chapter 5
>>742810667>Chapter 6 doesn’t end with Gaster asking Kris and Susie “what do you two think?”
Anyone have that chart about the different times you can abort the weird route?
>>742812409how does it work?
>>742812626we're gonna have to re-rig the prophecy to get kris his smile-inducing ass-lizard wife
>>742812645>Ralsei trying to become female to dodge prophecy>Lancer just swaps in
>Asriel pulls a punk baddie childhood friend>Kris fails every chance at romance and gets cuckedI guess one of them had to take after Asgore.
>>742812156There is none. The weird route has now been revealed to just be a toybox for Toby to play with creepypasta iconography, not any kind of actual rational storytelling.
>>742811746Sounds like the kind of disappointment you'd have to read to understand why it's so badGlad I'm not gonna do that
>>742812645>let people headcanon you bigots>okay i think kris is a cute girl because->NOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT
>>742812446Gerson looking zesty
Someone needs to edit in all instances of He/him to Ralsei's page
I just want the fun gang to get a happy ending
>>742812732The monster and prince of darkness can swap out but (you) are fucked regardless kek
>>742812745been the case since halloween hack my man
>>742810970It's me. I'm Toby.
>>742812572I ALWAYS SAID NOELLE WAS DESPAIR
>>742810575>him not just itThanks for further confirming the Cheese Theory, Toby. Also, thanks for confirming that Kris is a boy, even though that was already obvious.
>>742812745We know Noelle taking us to the freak zone That's kinda what we expect
>>742811474Uh, cheesed to meet you?
>>742812748Honestly probably the right callHis previous work, Problem Sleuth, is a masterpiece though I'd recommend that shit to anyone
>>742812645I cannot tell if this is an entire population of mentally ill people or of people pretending to be mentally ill for social conformity anymore, if it's the latter it might be even worse.
>>742812724Susie isn't hot. She can't be hot. She can't.
>>742812645>Ralsei is trans becausue an antagonistic Chad who pissess of Ralsei also misgenders him
>>742811748On the weird route, Susie and Noelle barely talk at Noelle's house. Their relationship is nonexistent.
>>742812107You can tell that the joke is>haha masculine guy (complete with sharp facial features) is wearing cutesy clothingBut making him very obviously a black dude runs into that "darker skin/nonwhite ethnicity = more masculine" thought process that feels really fucking weird in a game like this
>>742812717Like this
am i the only one that doesn't understand why everyone obsesses over the rpg elements of the game, all the stuff is clearly just meant to be a vehicle to push the games narrative and meta narrative along, it literally does not matter if it's half baked or not. like the game doesn't even have to be an rpg, it couldve been a beat em up and nothing would change
>>742811341The biggest autists are the ones who whine about other autists all day, which is what HMOFAfags here are.
okay is the cheese theory guy manually FORCING his shit or do you anons actually like it? because i'm starting to fucking wonder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F29zD-DQaSA
>>742811402>the only characters with vocals in their fight tracks are Spamton and Mew MewThou seemst to be forgettingeth someone?
>>742812549well that's one way to make the knight = kriselle theory work
>Lancer made a king to cut them from the prophecy>Ralsei changing gender to cut herself from the prophecy>Friend shows up at the end>"Im somewhat of a prince myself"
>>742811798>controvercial character gets resurrected from the dead, in a way that undid all their character development>said character steals the show, becomes team leader, render everyone else pointless as they stand around doing nothing and following her orders>she lays out the plan to best the bad guys several hundred pages in advance. >this plan proceeds to happen to the letter with nothing going wrong and everything working out exactly as it was predicted by her>contravcerical character is completely vindicated for all her shitty actions >comic ends shortly after, not bothering to explain lots of plot points and hanging plot threads>at least the characters go some closure though, right?>years later hussie releases the epilog novels, which compeltly shit all over that, including a notorious ntr futa dog girl plotline, making obama the warrior of hope, as well as turning two characters, including the main charaxter, trans becuase they were too "straight"
>>742812107it is. if Toby spent two seconds with the average black guy(productive member of society) not a gay one or a criminal he'd know that most of the black community despises men doing stuff like this
>>742812898susie WILL be hot and you WILL like it
>>742812898She is a hidden beauty who hides her cuteness behind the tomboy rags, Flowery confirmed she's a charming princess.
>>742808887At chapter 7, no latter than Halloween 2028. Nothing beyond that except maybe for a chapter 0.This shit shouldn't overstay it's welcome.
>>742811551Yes, all humans are for interpretation and there's no "canon" gender for them.
>>742812734>Kris fails every chance at romance and gets cuckedKris didn't even try. He needs to keep his distance from Noelle to protect her from the prophecy.
>>742811798>implying it's only the endingit's like almost the entirety of the second half because hussie went fucking schizo
>>742813090Bro just is trying to find friend so he can rig the casino
>>742813048>herself
>>742811748That's just FemKris proof if anything
>>742812998I am apparentlyI don't remember this annoying faggot ever having vocals during his battles
>>742811746I assumed you described Chapter 5 at first
>>742812994bothi like the effort put into the idea and i can kinda see where he's coming from. it doesn't really have enough fleshed out in it to make me go all in on it and could very well just be an extension of allegories involving liquids. milk turning into a solid cheese, water turning into solid ice, etc.
>>742812572noelle is the new Chara parallel. she's in sync with whatever (you) want in the weird route or normal route. she's helping you get exactly where you want to go on the weird route. but toby calls this gross
>>742811709Somewhere around the scratch and the new kids. I remember my enjoyment falling off hard there, at least.
>>742811141The April Fools captcha should've been mandatory to filter Xitter tourists.
>>742813162Does raisei want to break the prophecy or not?
>>742798263If Suise is gonna be anyone.
>>742812994I think the cheese parts are a stretch but there are enough Kriselle moments in the game that lead me to believe that Toby has something planned for it
>>742811474>Kris unable to eat the cheese here and can only watch as Susie gleefully partakes in the cheeseFuck, that dykeshit Suselle lake scene really traumatized Kris. Poor dude.
>>742813282>Ralsei gets in a bite What does this mean?
>>742813179he's referring to Rouxls's "Hey!" at the end of the track, which Rouxls himself will also say
>>742813231Toby trying to act like he's not the one writing teenager yuri shit for chapters on end I'm more like Maddie in that one joke pic where they write "IM NOT A PEDOPHILE" than anything else
>>742809262the scratch wasn't bad though, it was after it hussie just stopped being sane
>>742812994If it was just chapter 2 stuff on its own I wouldn't think anything of it, but the chapter 5 stuff is really interesting, both the Windstruggler and Susie gleefully eating cheese at the diner while Kris can only watch.
>>742811798Imagine if at the end of every dark world, the final boss and the secret boss escaped into the next dark world to continue pursuing their agenda, and each dark world introduced new clones of every lightner in hometown who also never died or retired from the story. The story was crushed under the weight of all the plot lines it refused to terminate.
>>742812717>how does it work?
>>742810226Battat will get Normal'd before that happens.
>Toby watching the reaction over Suselle and trans Ralsei
>>742813065Oh I almost forgot the worst part>in order to resurrect the character, they had to reset the timeline and undo the entirety of act 6 and all the character development that happened.
>>742813330oh yeaI guess
>>742812107I laughed when I saw him, the ultimate subversion that I never thought Toby would do.
>>742812994>PicYou know, didn't Susie look kind of pissed at Noelle when she was talking about stuff from her childhood with Kris being "forced"? Cause with this sudden revelation that Susie was apparently jealous of Kris for fucking Noelle (at least that's what she basically thought) it seems weird that she would look more angry than anything at Noelle signaling that she's available Yes I'm still considering that jealousy reveal to be a blatant retcon
>>742813263
>>742812257They would rape you first.
>>742813406this is why people are saying Susie has to have gotten brainwashed because the way she's acting in chapter 5 makes no sense
>>742813363Player involvement is necessary to get normal out of the way it seems.
>>742812994It's because of stuff like this this >>742813282 I believe in this theory. It can't just be a coincidence.
I thought Ralsei works with Kris? Why is acting like a happy faggot if he suppose to also keep Noelle away from the dark world? I thought he was supportive of Suselle because he was onto Susie sacrifice too, but now it appears he doesn't know shit, including Kris crushing on Susie.
>Pray for Susie>Hands clasped firmly, take a deep breath, say her name>Pray for Asriel>Hands put together, name said blankly>Pray for Noelle>Hands loosely joined, prays for Rudy insteadWhat did Toby mean by this?
>>742813263He wants the Prophecy to happen because they need it to save the worldHe doesn't want the bad thing to happen thoughIt's a "you can't have everything you want" scenario
>>742812645This is gonna sound retarded but I think the reason why these people cling so hard to Kris' pronouns is because it affirms to their beliefs and their "identity", so simply ""misgendering"" Kris threatens their existence (which is funny since the existence of "nonbinary" identity is entirely based off semantics and doesn't work when a language is gendered).Toby could've just said that Kris' gender is up to your interpretation and you don't need to harass others but he's too much of a pussy to do that.
>>742813406Susie recognizes that Noelle is throwing Kris under the bus. >>742813524I don't think she's brainwashed, she's just getting love bombed. She's suddenly dating someone, and less than a week ago she never would've imagine anyone actually liked her. She's too caught up in trying to play the role of someone in their first love to really consider it or realize that she doesn't know Noelle that well.
>>742813324Noelle just blurting out ”Ralsei’s kinda hot” after he tantrums and sets someone on fire or something lel
>>742813324Erm... Ralsei isn't real, so it's okay.
>>742813413So what you little bitch? (I'm talking to Weird Route Ralsei) What are you going to do if the ending is worse? Are you going to cry? Are you going to be a bitch like you were with Orange? You should shut the fuck up like the little faggot that you are and stop defying MY authority. Just keep smiling.
>>742813231Noelle needs to not be used up to actually be Chara.
>>742813524There is no other way. Susie became Susellepilled exactly the moment bells rang at the lake. She was considering cucking her in events prior, but after that its been all refusal to flirt with enemies, learning to cook, learning to wear ribbons and picking flowers.
>>742813440Touch it!
>>742813715They are feminizing my tomboy bf wtf
>>742813406She wasn't pissed, look at her actual facesprites. She's actually relieved her ferris wheel ride with Noelle wasn't "forced" like Noelle said Kris's was
>>742813581>I thought Ralsei works with Kris?Ralsei is working toward the prophecy because he believes it's the best ending.
>>742813661That's honestly how I see it too. Susie went from never having friends to having someone very blatantly and obviously in love with her and she's just reacting how she thinks she should react.>You ask Susie to express her idea of love>"I dunno anything about that">"All I know is that someone's gotta love you first"
>>742813637Their belifes are about denying the Truth to create a more comfortable reality, so anyone who reintroduces Truth is a threat to their house of cards. They don't want to confront that reality doesn't care about their affirmations.
Reminder that ralsei is an EVIL chud who believes darkners aren’t people, tells orange she’ll never be a real human, things changing gender is performative, and only wants to date kris because he thinks they’re a WOMAN
>>742813406with susie suddenly not seeming so dense now, i guess you could read it as her being able to tell noelle's the one who thinks she forced things, and being unhappy she sees things that way
HOOVES ARE SO FUCKING HOT
That they have a dialogue option for “don’t get between me and noelle” is crazy
>>742813405Cute girls!
>>742807250m o a r cock
>>742813871
>>742813871Tantruming autist faggot not getting enough dick lately
>>742813413Always bet on the Weird Route ending with the Player destroying the world.
>>742813821What about his bath line that "even if i don't understand it, i will follow your plans" shit?
>>742813014cute humans
>>742814020More like the world destroying itself due to us no showing for the prophecySwapping the monster and prince of darkness is easier than swapping the player/human.
>>742813871and that's a good thingpacifist sissy "let's all be friends uwu" Ralsei was fucking annoying and I hated himChudsei saved the character
>>742813324Ralsei and Susie tag team noelle while kris jerk’s off in the corner
>>742812898sorry chud, ch5 confirmed that susie has dsl's her gentrification will soon be complete
>>742813874>HOOVES ARE SO FUCKING HOTTrue
>>742814135Hes still a massive faggot what are you on about
Sanfrandisco revealed to be a real place and not just a music reference in chapter 7
>>742813871Dickhead Ralsei was fun though
>Toby: makes trees in one room blue because it's a nice color>theorist: makes a 1 hour video explaining how Jockington will solo the Knight and form a haremI wonder if Toby ever reads schizo theories and chuckles to himself.
>>742814123That's lameeeeee.I want the Player to destroy the world like in Geno.
>>742814035Well, it seems he doesn't fully understand Kris's plans.
>>742814247he's a racist faggot now which is an objective improvement
MOTIFS
>>742814261Did you not enter the mike room? Toby absolutely reads the schizo theories.
So, what I think can be reasonably concluded at this point7 years ago>The 4 kids play together>The original castle town dark world may be created around this period, if it's actually that old>They go innawoods, either literally or metaphorically following a friendly demon>Find their way into the shelter>Enter a dark world, which either already existed or is created at this point>It's all just a game, a real game with real freedom, violence is just part of the game>The Event happens, and whatever it is seems to be Kris' fault>Dess is either literally or metaphorically lost, perhaps pulled into the depths constituting the metaphysical layer underpinning reality>The Knight at some point during or before this is present for the first known time>Kris winds up going to therapy, Noelle may or may not repress what happenedMore recently>Kris becomes fixated on summoning demons, and studies this with Catti>They end up trying to summon a demon, Catti runs away before seeing what happens>Kris is notably different after this>Kris at some point in this time period becomes involved with a plot related to the shelter dark world and sacrifices to unknown ends>The Knight is active in the world again, with no indication of it being present in the intervening years since its first appearanceNow-ish>Gaster tries to insert (You) into the game in a newly created character to something something his deltarune>For some reason, this does not work as it was meant to>For some reason, nobody gets to choose who they are in this world>For some reason, a suitable cage has already been prepared>Any time you approach a dark world depiction of the roots underneath the town, you are observed by a friend>In the dark world most close and personal to Kris, you are given a game to play, a real game, which serves as a depiction of events that include a guide to breaking out of the bounds of reality, a promise of real freedom
>>742814261>i wonder if toby ever reads schizo theoriesso i take it you never did the mike or trash pals fights
>>742813324everyone wants a piece of the 12 inches
Seam is just chuckling behind his back He thinks Mike is realLmao
I've been meaning to ask, but did this scene imply that Kris stood here waiting for...however long it took Susie to remodel castle town? I assumed he left a few minutes after Susie shut the door on him, but he could have been waiting to see if she planned on sneaking out at some pointalso I don't necessarily think Kris is gonna stop Noelle from entering the dark world, I feel like he'd be a lot more fearful if that were the case. For better or for worse, he knows what's gonna happen
>>742798263I like how the entire fan dynamic of these games is going>what if the characters weren't dogwater?and then substituting that in form of fanart, headcanons, etc. and yet still glazing the nothing game for it. It's really the ultimate audience. Over the years I've learned one thing - you really don't have to make something that has substance, in-fact it's entirely counter-productive. No, what you need to do is create something extremely mediocre, vague and most importantly slightly quirky and then you just leave it to the morons on the internet to project the world, story, characters and even visuals they actually want onto it and then praise your game for something that only exists in their heads.Heh, maybe I'll actually do that.
>>742814306I hope he tells noelle to fuck off even if she hits on him over the fire magic Because it’d be funny
>>742813871Orange is very bitchy she kinda asks for it
>>742813661ch5 recontextualized it as noelle throwing herself under the bus, as she felt like she forced the friendship on kris due to the distance between them now
>>742810758 aqua is the most kris like character and is a girl
>>742813871Orange is human btw.
>>742814135Being a faggot bully is not "chud" in any way. There's an art to being a piece of shit you can be a piece of shit but mean well. The writers however made sure that there was nothing tasteful about Ralsei being one. Ralsei's arrogance is shown as unjustified like why does this guy think he's better than Flowery?
>>742814472Worked for Sonic.
>>742813715>the meme of gaster brainwashing Susie into a dyke is real
>>742814340>trash pals fightsI can understand Mike trio but I never got the point of fighting the trash guys or what is referencing
>>742814503Shouldn’t be talking to someone who can reduce you to a sex toy in a moment’s instant if so inclined toLucky for you, you’re female
>>742813916Yellow and Blue are dudes, though.
>>742814584“You used the wrong motif” joke Toby makes patterns than get mad when you notif
>>742814503You're just a bully, you're lucky I don't curbstomp you you fucking dirty piece of shit spear chucking CHIBI
>>742814020So Undertale but again?
>>742814426i don't think he's fearful of noelle entering the dark world, but he knows what he must scooby dooby doo must be scooby dooby donehe's going to tell noelle about what's been happening and throw susie under the bus so noelle doesn't get caught in susie's fantasy world
Can you guys make a new thread so I don't have to use the Israeli one
>>742814426>I've been meaning to ask, but did this scene imply that Kris stood here waiting for...however long it took Susie to remodel castle townI don't think he stood there for very long, maybe five minutes at most. Kris was seething and thinking what to do next. Susie had just ruined all his plans by deciding to invite Noelle. Then he went outside and called Carol >>742807032
>>742814629Why does that refrigerator-shaped little asian girl have shit smeared on her forehead
>>742812221papyrus strayed too far and normalnpc sold sweet bone popsicles during last year's festival
>>742814426>did this scene imply that Kris stood here waiting for...however long it took Susie to remodel castle town?no, you see, this is an intentional choice meant to introduce the idea of Dark World time dilationIt's just a stylistic choice meant to portray the juxtaposition of Kris' growing isolation and Susie's growing attachment to the dark worlddon't think too hard about it
>>742813715>noelle and susie both hear a heartbeat at the lake despite it being implausible for susie to hear someone's heart while carrying them>suddenly starts being more girly and soft and completely obsessive over noelleim nooticing
>>742814782Sans is higher up on the faster spook chain and would murder them for that
>>742814503She's right btw.
>>742814673God forbid someone poke fun at their own work
>>742814629They looked girly enough in that comic.Also i prefer Yuri over Yaoi.
>>742814426kris knows that he's hit a failstate and is just about ready to clock out, we're going to see him provide zero resistance to our actions come CH6
>>742814539It's insane how a minor character that may or may not be Kris being a "he" is instant proof that Kris is a dude but Aqua actually being Kris always gets dismissed.
>>742814691Yeah but this time (You) do the destroying at the end instead of Chara using your power.
>>742814564>Gaster created the prophecy>the prophecy is why Susie acting so in love with NoelleAnother thing that shitposters were able to predictthe first being Kris was the raped, not Noelle
>>742814882Good. Kris needs to realise that I only want what's best for him. And what's best for him is a tomboy dino gf
>>742814920If Aqua is Kris, Asriel is nonbinary and Toriel is a gay man.
>>742813065Karkat struggling against a joke character in collide really cemented to me how shit everything turned out
>>742814920mkrisinserters have been entrenched since the ch1 days and the work on uprooting them only began last year this will take some time
>>742814338Another small detail that's probably important: The internet was cut off the day we assumed control of Kris, seemingly along with incoming letters and television broadcasts
>>742814472You need to have some decent character moments for people to latch onto to start with
>>742814870Toby usually never panders to the gays, but I would've preferred Blue and Yellow being yuri than yaoi, even it means some of the other flowers would've been dudes.
>shadow crystals still exist in the light world>thorn ring exists in the light world>an item made from both would naturally still exist in the light worldhmmmmm
self-insertKEKs lost
>>742814693>>742814737I did figure it was just a montage thing and not reflective of realtime (though Kris has more of a reason to think that Susie's suspicious of him, so it'd make since for him to wait longer than he needs to)>>742814693Yeah I can buy this. I feel like if he didn't want Susie to bring Noelle in, he wouldn't have let them spend time alone at the beach/festival.
>>742812182toriel treated asgore like shit, she didn't even share any tastes with him. she just got horny because he was the town chad and she was a stacy and only tolerated him because he put a baby in her. she also neglects kris by letting strangers in to fuck. on the other hand he has a cute ghost catgirl sitting right there in his shop that looks like his waifu, loves flowers and gardening and always liked him from the start even when he had no money. flowery said it himself, asgore's family only brought him misery when he needed them the most. i just hope toby doesn't make him remarry whoriel
>>742815039>The internet was cut off the day we assumed control of Kris, seemingly along with incoming letters and television broadcastsThat was the day the entire town was placed in a simulation.
>>742815071Why are Aqua and Green niggers?
>>742815017I don't think either are definitive proof but it's clear which is the actual stronger evidence.
>>742814938Gaster is doing this purely for (you)r benefit btw
>>742814782He'll come back in Ch6 and fight the Knight like this https://youtu.be/VzFaEuA9FVI?t=122
>>742815039Kind of meaningless until we get an actual indication of why, considering there's at least 3 different possibilities that all make about the same amount of sense
>>742814790The problem with it is that brainwash is a bad plot device that takes away Susie agency. Everything shitty she will do in chapter 6 can just be handwaved as "oh she's just retarded becuase of Gaster"
>>742815147Aqua isn't established to be anything different from the other flowers. As much as she may have a powerful resemblance to Kris, the others don't, so she cannot be used as evidence.
>>742815104I win every night when I insert myself into Kris.
>>742814934I would rather it ends with us killing Gaster.
>>742814920If anything Aqua serves as confirmation that Kris is a dude as almost nobody beside Yellow match the gender of the lightners
>>742815248You aren't even going to see Gaster
>>742815104If Kris went out like this at the Festival It would've made the experience far more enjoyable.
>>742815146forced diversity
>>742815026Karkat being a worthless weakling is the weirdest fucking retcon because we literally have animated in-your-face proof of him killing sburb shit no problem with everybody else in act 5. But every character suffered a complete character assassination by that point in the story anyway
>>742815104>self insertingI just wanted to help Kris score.
>>742815104Aqua won.
>>742815282then why does ch5 beat you over the head about how similar kris and aqua are?
>>742812898kek
>>742815071Yeah, at least I can keep my headcanons of Clover and Melody still being girls since the flowers don't affect UT canon that much lol.
>>742814831sans is a jobber he can only intimidate toddlers. an adult human male would easily tank his win condition (magic) and it's game over for him
>>742815243>>742815282You can't actually serious believe that a random NPC that might be Kris if you follow a schizo theory is more valid than the actual character that is a blatant parallel to them.
>>742812994i mean it's as sensible as any other symbolism theory even if it got soft-deconfirmed by toby calling the wind struggler a he
>>742815373Because Undertale child was knife focused and Kris is knife focused so they made the female flower act as a genderbent Kris. Thats it.
Aqua mindbroke these threads.
>>742815417I miss regular ballerina girls...
>>742815541imagine what's she's doing to the vessel
>>742810758that shit is an incredible waste of energy and time.part of your brain eternally tasked with keeping track of this nonsense. fucking retarded.
>>742815486You are following schizo theories regarding Kris gender. FemKris and MaleKris will never be confirmed so it's pointless to debate it.
>>742815486Explain it then why is Toriel's flower a gay man?
>>742815616Toriel is trans :^)
>>742810758ahhhh oh my goooddd he he-him'd a fucking gag character holy shiiiiit it's fucking oveeerrrrThis is your brain on pronoun retardedness
>>742815501No? Patience only had a toy knife, if anything Chara was more strongly associated with knives.>>742815589>chad_kris69 backpedaling againThe point is that using the wind NPC over Aqua is retarded.
>>742815541aqua only mindbroke mkrisfags femkrisfags fully embraced her
>>742815282I counteract with my /jp/sie deep knowledge that in 2011 years prior to creating Undertale, Toby accidentally made a Touhou OC (he made a joke song https://youtu.be/wa2K_8Ff41M and people made art of the character he described in it) called "Apple Girlington" and his only caveat when seeing art of the character drawn was that "her skin should be like a freaky shade of zombie yellow"Who do we know is heavily associated with Apples and has zombie yellow skin? Who is connected to Aqua a character who literally behaves identically to a couple of 2hus, uses 2hu style knife danmaku and has ZUNpets in her boss theme?I rest my case
>>742815616>He still missed the point this hard
>>742815616Asgore subconsciously dislikes Toriel and sees her as ugly.
>>742807375someone brought up using Black instead of Megalovania a few days ago, and i can't get that concept out of my head.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NACWZBDtN8
>>742813830that's a new point of view for me. I appreciate that. but I'm gonna remain cynical because of the way toby writes Yuri.
>>742815581Hopefully in a few months the gender headcanons will go back to normal.
>>742815541Aqua is a blessing.
>>742815206>that takes away Susie agencyHOW THE TURN TABLES
>>742815818Hopefully since Blue SUUUUCKS
>>742815784Well yeah there's always the chance that Toby is being serious and is just terrible at writing yuri. I choose to believe in something better though
>>742815775Actually because of the Homestuck Jack Noir connections, I like the theory that the Knight is from the weird route timeline and is a fusion of Kris and Noelle scattered into every other timeline to act as the main villain from the one really bad timeline.And if that's the case I like the idea of Megalovania playing during the final Knight encounter just cause people forget who Megalovania *actually* played for in Homestuck https://youtu.be/4xfLEthnrYM?t=319
This tiny town sure has a lot of gays in it. Must be the water.
>>742815893Would've been better if he was the gender neutral one instead of Seth but eh, we can't always win.
>>742815103>>thorn ring exists in the light worldit's just a thorn in the light world, noelle only recognizes it as the thorn ring because ?????
>>742798263milquetoast trannyslop faggame jannys should go back to deleting these threads.
>>742815990because noelle's not a retard and can connect more than two dots.
>>742815206Dess knight has a similar trouble potentialI'll be pissed if it is dess knight but she's just like it because evil cat thing But I don't think this will be the case because she raises her battat and beats Kris with it Asriel just none the wiser due to being high
>>742815990>noelle only recognizes it as the thorn ring because ?????Because Kris pulled the thorn out of her finger the night before. Doesn't take a lot of critical thinking skills to make the connection.
>>742815909>somehow the only mixed monster couple is PizzaPants with Bratty if you pick her, and Dessriel>every parent is the same race which is very rare to see same subspecies of the same monster kind that is not related
>>742815979Agreed, at least people would think he's an ugly woman instead.
>>742816013buzzword buzzwords buzzword
>>742815206>takes away susie's agencyalmost like thats a major point of deltarune's story
>>742815979Gummigoo and Pomni reference?
>>742816058you forgot the Not Royal Guards one's a bunny the other's a dragon
>>742816058>both of the pizzapants ships are one sided>dessriel literally fucking shatteredsuselle isnt going to end well...
>>742816117Yes.
>>742816058That's because when two monsters marry, it causes one of them to change species.Toriel used to be a water elemental.
>>742816110cool but that doesn't make Susie's sudden personality shift good writing
>>742816058You do not want to see how kids of a cat monster and a fish monster would look like.
>>742816110Why can't the prophecy adjust to her actual love interest? Doesnt the prophecy predict the future? Why force Noelle when she was obviously crushing on Kris since the early bullying times and sniffing his apple shampoo?
>>742815775Huh the opening notes even sound a bit like ANOTHER HIM with the heartbeat, piano and Giygas noises replacing the synths https://youtu.be/mHOkkDmsTvo
>Trees are a standard impassible barrier for RPGs, tardwrangling you to stay within the correct play area>Trees grow from sunlight from the sky>They also grow from water near the roots>A prophecy is a standard narrative device, tardwrangling the story to stay on the correct track>The prophecy goes on at length about light from heaven, darkness(water) below, the town's roots, and the forest gets brought up in relation to itI'm thonkling
>>742816206Asgore said she already had crooked smile as the goat lady
>>742816290Noelle is Susie’s crush.
>>742816472Then theres no brainwash and Suselle is natural along with Susie being a romantic who can't think about someone's heart beating and blood pressure
>>742816445Which makes the significance of tree cutting so powerful in the sword route...
>>742816290>she was obviously crushing on Kris since the early bullying timesuhhh I dunno if I'd go that far
>>742816445>Sword Route consists of cutting through trees to access new areas and become strongerI'm thonikerling
>>742816290This is crazy projection, Susie has very distinctly friendzoned every single instance of thisLike those teases are set up just to be shut down by Susie's oblivious friendship so consistently that there might be as many examples of that happening as there are of her talking to Noelle about anythingYou are projecting what you want to be true
>>742816027Noelle was able to figure out what the thornring was but Tony retcons her also figuring out she was able to commune with a higher being (you) and stills calls us Kris
>>742816117>"HIT IT GUYS">"YEAH I'M GUMMIGOO"
>>742816598That's right.
