Why is Toby so gay for Ralsei?
No boost
>>742922645Its not gay if its a darkner
>>742922645this guy got me into Deltarune
Why is this fanbase, especially on /v/, unironically full of troons? https://files.catbox.moe/nuygfa.mp4
>>742922645What a shit overrated game.I only played undertale, but is undertale managed better than this stuff?
>patch added new dialoguehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mwahy1AN2MFriendbros, are we back?
Here's the harsh truth: you stupid fucks only seem to like WR because you think it's supposed to be """""(you)"""""" as controlling everything, but it isn't. It's not YOU, it's a different entity entirely. YOU are not in control of anything. YOU play the role of someone else having their own schemes and desires and responses and behaviors.YOU do not matter. YOU are not what's controlling the story. YOU are roleplaying as the metaphorical "you", who is a different person entirely.The same type of reasoning also used for Genocide. YOU are not "you", the "you" is an entity that is never explained in Undertale, and it won't be for Deltarune either.You stupid fucking manchildren just want to self insert SO badly into this story and delude yourselves into thinking it's actually you that you'll cry about fucking anything because you genuinely think YOU have an input in this game, or any other game. There is no effect YOU have on this game, because a game like that doesn't exist. If you want to play a "game" where you have "input", go outside and "put" your hand "in" some fucking grass, and stop glorifying trannies and a tranny pandering game, you fucking retarded babies.Here's your hecking (YOU) buddy!(YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU)
>>742923495Damn this dialogue is cringe and trying so hard to be japanese, you stupid faggots really like this garbage?
https://deltarune.com/egg/rereading this while knowing it was posted by "holidaygirl1225" has some implications
>>742923495So how does it relates to Noelle? Wasn't she hinted playing some kind of cat game?Maybe she was possessed by the cat demon at the lake and then thorn ringed Susie to brainwash her? That could work with all the things we know so far like suselle not making sense.
>>742923334CP DONT OPEN
Toby took this away from us.
>>742923715>all our saves are now fucked because we were NOT suppose to find all eggs and each ending will now lead to FRIEND endEither that or true route depend on collecting eggs which is also retarded
>>742923495Does it only happen if you get hit by Friend in chapter 5 or does it always happen?
>>742923862Kris thinking about fucking his brother is Suselle tier of Noelle fucking her sister.
>>742923939you need to have the egg and got damaged by Friend.
>>742923495Make sense he would possess Susie. She started talking about heart beating so suddenly after the bells at the lake started ringing. Pink and Yellow also signify the forces wanting Noelle and Susie to connect, while Flowery warned about dark forces and Krusie needing to happen to save the world.
>>742923849She's manipulated by Friend but she still fights it and cockblocks others from stealing Kris.
Toby Fox singlehandedly giving deltarune theorists 6 months of content with 14 lines of dialogue added in at 2am
>>742924075oh, i never got attacked by Friend but collected all the eggs, i wonder what kind of change in the end collecting eggs will have, might be another ending just like collecting shards might unlock other ending
>>742924367Toby realised we reach the "Fields of pink and yellow" but there was no Friend forshadowing and we suppose to face him next chapter
>>742924367>he can just edit in random dialog to get his cult happy off of random updates somehow that makes his writing even worse...just edit in vague posting any time people get pissy lol
>it will instafuck your saves and force you to play all chapters again as punishment of reaching for guides to get all the secretsCool mechanics Toby, will surely raise the playthrough hours
>>742923602People who were disappointed they weren't ordering Noelle around in 5 seem to have not been paying attention to any of the subtext in 2 or 4, with it being less about controlling Noelle and more about getting to do things you normally wouldn't do and going "off script" and breaking Noelle free of her shackles as an NPC. It isn't about you or control or rape, it's about going between the lines of the story
>>742923495I swear i saw "NEXT CHAPTER MAN" with Friend got posted before but I didn't save itAnybody got it?
>>742924534
>>742924521it was handled half-assedly and of course, toby could rape your dog and you would find an excuse
>>742923334holy shirt cant bluddy did finded another thinged to hyper dicksate on??
>>742924570Yup, that's the oneThank you>mfw FRIEND will be relevant next chapter for real
>>742924476I hate it retroactive "George Lucas" re imagination of his work>people complain about rape>edit the shattered rose from WR>people complain about lack of lore>add in Friend forshadowing so that people no longer just assume the cat is only a creepy pasta memeIts retarded, the original vision was for us to assume Friend is not significant, but now its changed into "Final boss confirmed"
>>742922645toby is ralsei
So are all the cats evil in the game?
>>742924521It was hinted WR is better than following the prophecy blindly like Ralsei, but not as good as healing the world with Krusie ending that we are yet to discover the path to
>>742924731Does that means he wants to fuck the player?
>>742923495I'm not believing in Friend till I see him in the flesh anymore.
Believe it.
can he patch in a 2 hour long sex scene with carol that ends in impregnation next
>Insane new vaguepost dialogue added for Mew Mew that directly acknowledges friend and seems to allude to his origins>This is randomly added in a fucking update post chapter launch?????Did Toby see the trans catgirl was getting shat on for having nothing of substance in terms of secret boss schizo lore, and was just being treated as a fuckable regular miniboss and decided to add this super ultra rare specific piece of dialogue to try to make her more "relevant"? Or more like an actual shadowcrystal boss, I guess.
>>742924570Why would Toby demonize cats? They are always portrayed as myterious but positive guardians and companions to humans. It will turn out he's another good guy like Flowery
>>742924880Based
>>742923859"There's something more important than reaching the end."
>>742924804Aborted Weird Route is the Krusie path>Normal Route has Susie spend too much time with Noelle, deluding herself into believing she needs to date the deer>Weird Route leaves Susie in the dust, Noelle taken fof somewhere with newfound love for Kris>Aborted Weird Route has Susie spend as little time with Noelle as possible, making her realise the horrible feleing she had in her stomach was the fear that Kris would be taken away from her
>next patch update just randomly removes Suselle date
>>742925004i would call toby a hack
>>742923762https://deltarune.com/egg/
>>742923715Eggs are just gonna be evidence that Dark Worlds existed and it wasn't just all a dream
>>742923334TROON DON'T OPEN
So here's my thoughtsFRIEND is somehow Kris' hand that was amputated during THE INCIDENT (but Kris got better through advanced shelter technology)It has been hunting after Noelle sinceKris stays away from Noelle because if she dares to get close to her, her own severed hand might be able to get to herThis is why Kris has to stop Noelle from entering the Dark World. Not because there's any kind of prophetic sacrifice, but because Noelle will die if FRIEND gets to her and Kris has seen this happen in previous time loopsIn chapter 6, on a standard route, if you didn't get all the eggs, FRIEND will attack Noelle and kill her.If you managed to get all the eggs, FRIEND will go after Kris instead. You'll have a battle where Kris will go all out using the maximum amount of her power.If you manage to win, the great evil will have finally have been stopped. Of course there's still the prophecy to worry about, but Noelle will be safe. Kris will feel immense relief after worrying about this for years. She'll immediately go to reconcile with Noelle and they'll make out in front of Susie. And then Kris may have just have the slightest bit of respect for (You).On a drowned weird route, you can't get all the eggs, so FRIEND will go after Noelle. Noelle is stronger now though, and will Snowgrave FRIEND.tl;dr: if you want noelle in your party for chapter 6, you need all the eggs
>>742924985>Good ending is literally murder darkners and put Berdly into a coma>however you didn't rape the doe in chapter 4 so you deserve to win the Susie titjob award and the only happy endingNah, bruh
>>742925186What if you abort the weird route before killing Berdly and keep the ring to make the twisted sword?You also don't kill any darkners, you just beat them up and they run away
I think I see why so many of you guys resonate with this new update
>>742924880Habeeb it.
>>742925084I dont like the idea of literal easter eggs that dataminers discover for the fandom actually adding plot significant content
>>742925004I would laugh
>>742925131>Having all the eggs makes him come after youYou can't kill him though. Not without>The twisted sword.
Alphys is our Adachi
New lore scene from this patchhttps://files.catbox.moe/p6t87i.mp4
>>742925186You have to sacrifice many things for love. You don't care for computer programs more than Susie do you? You're not turning into Susie are you?
>>742925259The fuck is this retard talking about
>>742922645What the fuck is this game anyway ?So the creator of the overhyped shit game Undertale decided to make a seasonal trans game and now it's everywhere all the time non stop ?And everyone is just waiting for the next episode to come out to see more trans shit happen ?
>>742924570Watch Chapter 6 bait with Friend one last time before actually doing shit with him
ALPHYS SAYS SHE THINKS SHE SORT OF OWNS A CAT IN THE ALLEY OR SOME SHIT AND THAT'S WHAT SHE PUTS THE MILK OUT FORWE ALSO KNOW SUSIE IS INTO THAT MILK
>>742923495>MewMew casually confirms FRIEND as one of if not THE final boss of Deltarune.>This dialogue is added in a fucking update.What crack is Toby smoking?
>>742925131ANY game mechanic that force you to replay chapters to unlock a new ending is a bad game design. Unless the Gallery premonition is Toby giving you the ability to replay parts without going full reset
>>742924880at this point the knight might as well be an orgy baby like that scene from Drawn together but with Kriss, a holiday(or all) and alphy...
>>742924521The thing I noticed in chapter 4 was the aborts are all about letting Noelle believe the dream wasn't real and when you confirm it was, that's the point you're locked into the ending. So I think it fits really well even though it's not what I expected.
erm uh oh
>>742925296HOLY
>>742925420>Toby giving you the ability to replay parts without going full resetIt's really just the Shadow Crystals that matter
>>742925253You need to freeze them in "snowgrave" to trigger the weird route
>>742925253You can't [make an omelette] without [Breaking a few eggs]
>>742925530eggs though
i don't want Krusiei want YOU and Susie
>>742925420I think the eggs get kept between save files if you find a place to put them.
>>742925565the eggs don't matter
>>742925534They'll probably defrost, its fine
Eggs with Noelle?
>>742925565I think you probably only need one egg
>>742925592You can't get through your teen years without at least one Egg.
>>742925318Doesnt even make sense to end with Susie. Weird route is about Kriselle and aborting it only happens in moments where you pity Noelle and want to spare her and Kris pain at the couch scene or lake scene
>>742925383Trannies think their life experience is universal, so they project on everything, because they can only enjoy something if it's about them.
>>742924731no, he's the annoying dog
How good of an ending can you still get if you just start a new game at ch6 or ch7 without completion data
>>742925592lancer
I'm sad chapter 5 killed truckposting
>>742925131>kris>herAnyway, it's possible time loop will happen if Friend kills Kris. That's why Susie is calling out Kris
If I'm forced to replay the game a 3rd time because of these retarded eggs then I'm going to personally hunt Tobias down and force feed him rotten eggs irl
>>742925259NIGGA I DON'T CARE ABOUT TRAINS YOU HAVE PROTEIN AND I AM GOING TO DEVOUR YOU ALIVE
>>742925664No thorn ring means no twisted sord means no breaking shit to find something better.In other words: yurislop for you, susie kisses the reindeer as they break the prophecy and throw Kris away to be the sacrificial lamb
Alphy please tell me you ain't doing more amalgams or other fucked up shit again.Your stocks are low enough as is, this would make me sell it all.
>dark shards unlock good Krusie ending>eggs unlock good Kriselle ending>Kralsei get fucked no matter what as its incestiousGreat idea, Toby
>>742925749alphys stocks are about to go through the fucking roof everywhere, buy in while you can
>>742925383Only real women have flesh
>>742925789Okay but where?
So, Toby probably saw everyone not understanding his vagueposting, saw people not understanding Mew, and just finally decided to give direct lore confirmationLmaoalso cute dialogue with them
>Patching shit last minute to force discussion of something that was supposed to be a surpriseNow this is lame
>>742925838Dude's got a figurine fearing for his life
>>742925838>an anime cat girl will never tremble and hold your hand while warning you about imminent violent deathWhy live
>>742925838>vagueposts so hard that nobody is satisfied even with the fun escapism and gameplayseems like a good move honestly
>>742925838Just tell them "it's a human thing" and the monsties will stop asking.
>>742925838He should do this more often. The vagueposting is cringe as fuck
>>742925895shut the fuck up
>>742925259>"Satan is hunting you down, Kris">"Omfg... Kris is being followed by transphobes..."
>>742925697>late hour with the bells ringing out their justiceGerson talk about bells ringing in the evening at the Lake, right? It means Prophecy will cause her to loop. Gerson tries to teach that she should defy it, but Susie is too retarded.
>>742925989The irony is not lost on anonymous
>>742925838Good.Vagueposting is high faggotry.
>>742925970Get back to work Toby you lazy fuck
>>742925895Can we trust Pluey?He's a cat
>Ch 5 was so ass he has to lorepatch itI have 0 faith for the next chapter, Toby is throwing shit at the wall and see what's sticks.
Eram LORDS are vindicated. The FRIENDS are just his pets being sent out to keep on eye on Kris
>>742925838If cats are good then why is Toby making a black cat seem evil?
>Character was first teased with "Friend Inside Me">Implying that Friend is possessing or parasitizing someoneWho is the friend hiding inside?
Why do Deltarune threads always almost and after time of day to and reach 1000 posts(
>>742925923Susie will heal him. She has a secret inner light that can resurect the other one in Kris. Flowery said so.
>>742926132susie
>>742926052Well yeah He's not really a cat, just hiding
>>742926151svenska
>>742925838>wants to date you >also warns you about pack of demonic cats is coming after you and your friends This new patch just makes Susie look worse Pink cares about Kris as much as Ramb does
>>742925838>picThe townfolks and Kris are such weirdos nobody would bat an eye if he did this.
>>742926091The invisible person wearing the shadow mantle is FRIEND prime and it summons cats from the herd to attack you
>>742926132>Pink and Yellow>Chapter 5 focusing on Suselle and jealousy toward itIt must be the brainwash theory
here's your [friend list], anons.>pink and yellow FRIEND (CH2)>UI FRIEND (S rank room's vending machine)>purple and yellow FRIEND (battat)>dark FRIEND (3rd sanctuary)>red FRIEND (flower world)
>>742926151did you have a stroke
People overcomplicate what is happening in the setting. Here's my best take.>The world where Hometown is located is real. It's not an illusion. It's not some "Truman Show" scenario. It's not a simulation. It's not a game.>HOWEVER, the prophecy exists and is very much real. Not only will it cause the end of the world, it also makes everyone's lives in Hometown essentially pre-determined and on-rails. They're NPCs chained to it.>DESS is seemingly the first one to figure it out. She did something to try and stop it, but it resulted in some disaster that traumatized the people in Hometown. What happened to her isn't exactly clear, but there's the possibility she was ousted into another dimension.>KRIS AND CATTI, who are best friends, perform a ritual to summon a demon. Whether for fun or because they want to do something specific isn't known. Either way it works. I think this is the moment the loop is created.>FIRST LOOP starts. The events of the FIRST PLAYTHROUGH take place. The party consists of Kris + Noelle + (maybe) THE VESSEL [who is a real, regular human] + (maybe) Catti + (maybe) Ralsei.>The prophecy plays out. THE ROARING happens. NOELLE dies. Something happens to THE VESSEL and KRIS that's so horrific it shreds their very beings apart so fundamentally it works retroactively. No reset for them.>RESET. The vast majority of people lose their memories of the events.PART 1
>>742926151Shuts ups Skwisgaar we just gots a new kitty kats lore!
>>742926073I don't think he's patching new lore, it's more like Toby is vagueposting too hard, we knew FRIEND was important, he needs to tone it down
>>742926132susie, she's bring noelle right into the cat's cradle.
>>742926213Kris dating darkners would be retarded, like going on dates with a tulpa
>it's real
Let's say Toby drops another lore patch. How can he possibly top this one?
>>742926286But the ghost is a lightner
>>742926251>SECOND LOOP A.K.A. THE GAME starts.>From this point on everyone's various schemes are a reaction to the prophecy.>GASTER is trying to use science to essentially hack reality and prevent it from playing out. He's also the one who stitched THE VESSEL'S soul and KRIS'S body together to allow them to replay the loop.>KRIS is trying to play out the prophecy but in a way that spares as many people as possible. He chooses SUSIE, the sociopathic bully, as a replacement sacrifice in place of NOELLE. In order to keep her safe he starts distancing himself from her.>THE VESSEL's goal seems to be the Weird Route, in which he tries to break the prophecy completely and open up new options.>THE ROARING KNIGHT seems to be working with Kris in order to bring about a permanent Dark World. He wants to circumnavigate the world via immersing everyone in a world of illusions instead.>CAROL is obviously aware of the prophecy, but we don't really know what her goal in particular is.>RALSEI'S goal is also unknown as of now, though he seems to be going along with Kris's idea.>NOELLE, due to fascination with the occult, horror, gaming, breaking said games etc. has subconsciously figured out the truth of the reality she's living in, but feels powerless to do anything about it.TL;DR: It's just multiple factions dealing with the prophecy, each in their own way. Susie is the only one completely in the dark. PART 2
>>742926286>Going on dates with a tulpaabout that
>>742926228Pink and yellow is the canon one
>>742926286Well Maddie is a real person too, might not have the guts to fuck with due to being a ghost but she's bratty as hell and I like that
>>742926227>If you hear the song Friend brainwashes you>Noelle cannot remember the name of the weird egg she got>Kris can forget the eggs>Kris can forget the eggmanFriend is a false hydra confirmed
HEIL GASTER
>>742926379
>>742925685Drunk Asgore proceeds his truck into the lake
>>742926332An adult one, its not gonna happen, coomer.
>>742926328Non castle town epilogue to the ending of chapter 5
>>742926251>DESS is [complete headcanon with no evidence to back it up]
>>742926286No it's not, that'd be more like if Kris started dating (You).
>Friend = Yog-Sothoth>Gaster = Nyarlathotel>Someone in the Holliday family = Yhoundeh
>>742926453Kris is 18Source: Toby told me in the cool ass psychic bar that connects every human on Earth's minds
So, what does this mean, Kris is being targeted by fucking hyper satan cat and he's trying to kill him? is this why Kris fears the bunkerThat dumb cheese theory now makes more sense if Kris is like a mouse
If the Forgotten Man really was Kris and Noelle's therapist then he could have found out about Mike and that could be what caused him to fuck off. He tried to help the kids and ended up being hunted by a literal demon over it.
>DELTARUNE
>>742926453>An adult oneNot confirmed. Probably just a shut in that never goes to school. Explains the school background during the fight
>>742926606NoNoelle is being targeted, Kris is doing everything she can to protect NoelleKris is the mouse, but if she gets near Noelle, then FRIEND will get to her.Kris wants to instead be likened to being a dog, someone who can beat cats
>>742925262It's not plot significant and if it ever will be it's gonna get an actual in game explanation. But yeah, Toby is just hurting the game with this in the long run and nobody will be happy in the end. Feels like he's just desperate because of the bad ch5 reception.
YOU ACCEPT EVERYTHING THAT WILL HAPPEN FROM NOW ON.
>>742926606Kris is a dog. Noelle is the mouse
How do I trigger the scene? I already got the egg on this save file.
>>742922645So whats the point of the Knight now that friend is being set up to take over as the TRUE main antagonist? Are the theories about the Knight being taken care of in chapter 6 actually going to be true? Hell, the prophecy in chapter 4 even refferences friend more than the Knight, so it's pretty obvious that friend is likely going to be the main antagonist going forward rather than the Knight.
>>742925418>FRIEND as one of if not THE final boss of DeltaruneThat'd be so fucking lame.
Did yuo know:Susie has pink and gold on her costume in the dark worldthis shouldn't concern anyone!
>this is all it took to renew my hypeTobias played me like a fucking fiddle I want to see the evil cats NOW
>>742926782>get egg>get bitten by friend at the top of the beanstalk>beat mew mew>talk to her in shop
>>742926787The Knight isn't actually an enemy, she's being forced
>>742926696Maddie would be like one anime girl with black hair that’s like a neet or some shit
>>742925259Jesus, these people are actually fucked mentally. There's no connection. There's more connection in saying a bullet is a metaphor for a trans person because it blows up when poked and discards parts.
>>742926760>YOU A-ACKShut yo bitch ass up gonerFAGOOT
>>742926818No need to consern
I still don't care about FRIEND
>>742926787Since Ch4 I have thought that the Knight isn't really evil. If it wanted to cause the roaring then it could just do it and no one would be able to prevent it. The Knight wants something else and since Kris is working with it, i doubt its bad.
>>742926739oooh, Kris protecting Noelle from FRIEND does makes some sense, Noelle after all was performing cat genocide in her game
>>742926883you will be obliterated
>>742926696>Not confirmedIt's blatantly obvious it's someone that already graduated from school from the wording.The school background (that you already know the reason why and I don't know why I have to explain it anyway) is because Toby likes to pretend he's Japanese now and it's got Hatsune Miku bullshit on top of being a pseudo visual novel, that's 99% school settings.
>>742926891so is FRIEND Kris' hand lost to darkness or the "Special" egg that left because it was too happy
>>742926606Seems like the cat is something Noelle summoned and Kris is the dog losing his hand to protect her. Either way its all Kriselle focused and i don't like it becuase Susie is not connected to anything and she need to win the Krisbowl.
>>742926606the hyper satan cat was originally targeting noelle and the whole conspiracy is about trying to get rid of it, kris is keeping noelle away because if she gets involved in the dark worlds then FRIEND will be able to get a proper lock on her.but now susie is bringing noelle into the dark worlds so shit is going to hit the fan HARD.its entirely possible school gets canceled for CH6 (like carol canceling school when it was raining so hard that "it sounded like something was jumping on the roof") and noelle gets grounded specifically to try and keep her away from castle town (only for it to go wrong)
>>742926251>>The world where Hometown is located is real. It's not an illusion. It's not some "Truman Show" scenario. It's not a simulation. It's not a game.So how do you explain the CRT screen that appears at the end of the WR in chapter 7
Kris, you know once you start there’s no going back.
I want Friend to be the evilest piece of shit to ever exist.No sad backstory or relatable motivation, just a being of pure malice.
>>742924985Absolutely none of that stuff is anything Toby would write. You guys are setting yourself up for disappointment hoping for things like that.Think about it, has any of Toby's writing ever been along those lines, with those kind of themes? No?
>>742924369I don't think eggs will get you an extra ending, but will definitely give really juicy lore
>>742926787Knight is Noelle and Kris trying to defend against FRIEND. Beating him will defy Prophecy and save the world
>>742926940Ohhh and so that's when Susie goes over to Noelle's house, breaks in, and makes a dark fountain there
>>742924514Nah, Toby is a pussy and the reaction to the chapter scared him so much he's doing LOREBOMBS now because that's what everyone expects to happen. There is no way in hell he'd actually be like "haha I'm punishing you for reading guides because it's not a healthy game-to-player communication and you should know better". Maybe old Toby would be like that but he's been doing too much course correcting due to feedback for me to believe he's still sincere about telling this story.
>>742926971>pic not relatedgod i miss my fat black cat
>>742926990It's always "Toby would never write that"Then Suselle was all but confirmed for the normal route
>>742926787It's gonna go like this
>>742926971It's a malicious hunter that toys with its prey. The scary part is that it can manipulate the game/map itself, or its master can on its behalf.
>>742927013that or susie convinces noelle to just outright break the rules to come to castle town, and noelle does it because "teehee this is helping me get off the rails like i've always wanted!"
>>742926971I want him to give a backstory and motivation, only for it to be mundane and have virtually no bearing on the evil piece of shit he turned out to be.
Is everyone here Southeast Asian? It's 3-6am
>>742926940>Pluey minigame has cats falling from the sky while it rains>dark fountains are rivers shooting out of the ground>if you open enough fountains it starts the roaring>the roaring is fountains shooting into the sky outsideOh no
>>742926251This is very fucking overcomplicated
>>742926971would be awesome but Toby doesn't make characters like this
>>742927086>implying 4channers have anything else to do
>>742927086i'm american but i had a nightmare and randomly woke up i checked the threads and here we are
>>742925838>>742925923Isn't that just Mad Dummy? It's kind'a hard to see it as a girl.
>>742926848*they as in two people
>>742927086>Is everyone here Southeast Asian?No.>It's 3-6amYes.
>>742927086We're not all shartmericans.
>>742927162>>742927086most anons reported a sleep disturbance before they came here
>>742927086No, Toby just fucked my sleep schedule with these news
>>742927172It's specifically the darkner created from the Mew Mew doll that warns Kris. Mad Dummy doesn't hear it.
Any theory that kills off Suselle is ok in my book
>>742926920>I don't even go to school anymore Does not directly imply graduation. And usually people say "I already graduated" instead of saying I don't go to school anymore
>>742927064>need the "white cloak" to navigate the ice mazewhat if this is because noelle is immune to FRIEND's meta fuckery due to being a meta powerhouse herself?what if this is why FRIEND is targeting noelle. because that, combined with a little bit of [getting stronger], will allow her to kill the FRIEND pack outright?
>>>/vg/
>>742926961Gaston hacked into reality, essentially, after the first playthrough happened, or maybe during it, doesn't matter.
>>742927162Bro you too? I suddenly woke up with a stomach ache at 3am and checked my phone to see they'd added a Friend update.
it's susie's FRIENDtoby made her retarded so people lower their guardshe's probably merely pretending
>>742927197>>742927162>>742927256Toby has a strange power.
>>742927086I accidentally got myself on a biphasic sleep schedule, but it's probably just depression. oddly coincidental that I woke up around the same time a new patch dropped that revealed all this shit though.
>>742927086Freedom is crackling in the NEET air
>>742927109That's exactly why it would be so impactful.It's completely alien to what we're used to from Toby.
>>742927251>Janitor acceptance emails will be sent out over the coming weeks. Make sure to check your spam folder!
>>742927086It's 3AMI was going to sleep at 11PM...
>>742926940I remember that weird cat raining minigame
>>742924934I can't find the image now but there's a good collage of cat themes (freedom) vs dog themes (obedience) in Deltarune and the characters that represent that. By now it seems like an actual thing in this game.>>742925401I hope nothing is done with him and he forever stays a datamined meme like Gaster. It'd be infinitely more fitting that way.
>>742926787I do think it's kind of funny that we know more about friend than we do about the Knight at this point, despite the Knight being the fucking main antagonistic driving force of the story so far.
>>742927226>Maddie is a femcel that likes dilfs.I mean, that’s kinda a common thing with most women
i missed a whole bunch of shit, what's this about a patch?
>>742927045Nobody who played Undertale said "Toby would never write a poorly executed lesbian romance."
>>742927075>I never had much as a Kitten>Just a loving Green Owner... and stability, and a constantly full food dish>And a thriving Dark Fountain enterprise for me to inherit. >Worthless crap like that.
>>742927386It's true, people never learn
>>742926251I don't see how this is any less complicated than the game being a simulation that's looping and adding changes/new elements in the current loop. It feels more complicated if anything.
>>742927384Friend is coming to kill you in real life right now.
>>742927384Just a little bit of Catz torment
>>742927384shopkeeper pink has new dialogue about friend
>>742927251Janitor applications are closed.
>>742925668If you take everything Lancer says seriously you've got a lot more things to worry about than this.
>>742927384If you get the Ch5 egg and then encounter FRIEND you get extra dialogue from Mew Mew in the shop. Clarified to people that you still beat the game as long as you beat Flowery within 5 tries otherwise it gets "easier", but the patch notes say you'll hardly notice it. 6-15 tries it gets easier with each attempt until you reach 15 and it caps out.
>>742927421The game being a simulation ruins the story arc of several characters + makes the Dark World nonsensical as an allegory for escapism (which it is, no matter what one's personal opinions are on it).
>>742927384FRIEND got a balance buffNormalNPC was nerfed
>>742927212So Mew Mew isn't Mad Dummy? Why was everyone saying Mew Mew was trans then?
>>742927086Just think about itThere's gonna be a bunch of anons who wake up in a few hours, ready for another day of talking about shipping and doomfaggotry, only to find these threads freaking out about FRIEND with absolutely no idea what's going on.
>>742926971I want FRIEND to start eating darkners as soon as they appear
>hometown invaded by a pack of demon catsmeanwhile, the yellow soul in the middle of bumfuck nowhere:
>>742926865>Jesus, these people are actually fucked mentally. There's no connectionSounds like a regular schizo theory then.
come to think of it, FRIEND (the one in CH3) does look like a Hand. What could this mean?
>>742927384Oh, you don't wanna know...Oh, the horror...
Mew Mewhttps://files.catbox.moe/2nsjjs.jpeghttps://files.catbox.moe/qslcor.jpeghttps://files.catbox.moe/o39703.jpeg
>>742927484Mew Mew is just possessed by Maddie. Then ended up in the dark world due to the fountain so she's two niggas like Kris.
>Sans, normalNPC and all those light worlds goners weren't told about the part where Gaster let a demonic virus loose in the the dark worldsKek
>>742927484Mad mew mew is the angry dummy ghost inside of a mew mew doll. Troons just assume the ghost was a man to fulfill their troon fantasies
Good moment to re-read thisThanks Noellehttps://deltarune.com/egg/
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>>742925259What the fuck is wrong with these peopleI'm completely bewildered
>>742922645because hes the nortubel of deltarune
>>742925565Yes, a character will say "now open the deltarune wiki and follow the instructions on how to get all those easter eggs or you won't get the good ending!" and that's how you'll know how to do it.
>>742927212undertale/deltarune ghosts have no gender until they possess something.
>>742927474To me this sounds you don't like the simulation theory and refuse to believe it purely based on that. Well, no point in arguing over it, time will tell who was right.
>>742926787Eh, the Knight probably still will end up being the main antagonist to some extent, but its clear nobody cares about the Knight in that regard anymore. But like, unless friend is a sort of amalgamate, I feel like the dialogue outright confirming that theres dozens of friend cats lends itself more towards the theory of friend being dozens of hit-squad type enemies serving somebody higher rather than a single elite mastermind. But I guess we'll see in the future.
Doomtrannies lost.
>>742927602KILL YOURSELF
>>742927604the game practically already did give you hints in Ch4, which is one of the easier to get eggs in the first place.
>>742927627nigga the knight is not an antagonist.the knight is an ally trying to deal with the FRIEND menace.
>There are people who actually think castletown is safe
>Kris physically tries to get away from the bunker in the Sword route>Kris can open the banker with no problem and be unharmedI'm getting mixed signals here Isn't ERAM/FRIEND there or what?
>>742923495>this fanbase bullied toby into not vagueposting for 5 secondsi fucking kneel
>>742927521Fingers coming from the ends of the phoneThe hand waits until you're all aloneIt pulls the strings and makes them ringUntil your heart starts breaking up
>>742925664How big are the chances you won't get a good ending just by playing the game?
The knight is Jack Noir.Gaster is Doc Scratch.FRIEND is Lord English.
>>742927657>the knight is an ally trying to deal with the FRIEND menace.Him setting up Dark Fountains is the direct reason for The Roaring happening.
>>742927578>I was woken up this morning by a weird sound from my computer, two tones that almost sound like an amber alert but missing the bimodal sound to make them spookier>No explanation besides possible egg virus
HOPE BROS WE SO FUCKING BACK. TOBY'S GOING TO DELIEVER I JUST KNOW IT
>>742927665I'm retarded, I only just noticed the eyes
>>742927665seam being a FRIEND or not, castletown is already compromised by battat's FRIEND and tasque manager praying for all cats to gain extra fire damage.
>>742923762Noelle is someone who figured out the mechanics of the game/prophecy without knowing she's in one. Weird Route is the missing piece to her puzzle.
>>742923495>Have to “hide protein” to be safe from Friend>Susie is actually saving you by cockblocking and blueballing you so you won’t release your proteinI’m sorry, Susie… I’m sorry I ever doubted you…
>>742927706I hate a moral coward, one who lacks a manly sparkI just detest a man afraid to go home in the darkI always spend my evenings where there's women, wine, and songBut like a man, I always bring my little wife along
>>742925131>If you managed to get all the eggs, FRIEND will go after Kris instead. You'll have a battle where Kris will go all out using the maximum amount of her power.>If you manage to win, the great evil will have finally have been stopped. Of course there's still the prophecy to worry about, but Noelle will be safe.This is so gay compared to this faggot forcing FemKris anyway but honestly I am starting to believe a seedling of truth with how obsessed Toby is becoming with NTR and how this is so gay and retarded that would perfectly lead to good end Suselle cucking everyone who's not a literal retarded tranny faggot. I believe it...
>>742926971>evil...just because it's its le natureYeah no. We already have the Titan for that shit and it was the biggest nothingburger ever.
>Ralsei says Castle Town is "Pure Darkness">this implies the other fountains have impurities>these impurities are Friends>that's why there was no Friend in chapter 1
>>742927665I've been saying this since chapter 3. The cat that knows a suspicious amount of information about fights that hadn't happened yet with a hollow eye holding onto our Shadow Crystals surely only has pure intentions.
>>742927665>Normal Route Noelle can't beat Seam>Aborted Weird route Noelle can beat Seam>Noelle casts Snowgrave>Seam sets himself on fire and reveals what's inside his puppet self
>Noelle just casually creating hyper satan in her computer
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1997
I thought people were dreading the idea of friend being a species of mindless creatures rather than a single powerful entity. Why is everybody in here and outside of here celebrating dialogue that literally outright confirms that?
>>742927162What the fuck is up with Deltarune and dreams, is it trying to manifest itself in reality or something? I just had one recently too.
>>742927869she also went on the "weird route" for Dragon Blazers too. not like Susie who just killed shit because its a video game, she specifically hunted it down according to blogs
>>742927902we still have eram for that
>gaster, possibly eram, and an army of friends are after his assliterally what has he done
STILL THE BEST 1973
>>742927682I think Kris just didn't want (you) knowing what's in there
Chuds says we need to retake the fandomhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b12eG9rsyc
>>742927902Because they're still presented as an existential corrupting threat able to merge into larger Forms
>>742927506Has deltarune yellow gotten better or is it still a pale imitation
>Kris and the soul will finally bond over being hunted and beating the shit out of cat satan
>>742927930Not watching your video
>>742927913Toby Fox has some SCP-cognitohazard put in the game. Now we wake up from nightmares every time he drunkenly updates the game at 2am
>>742927086Euro here, shitposting at work
>>742927869Noelle would have found Frog Fractions 2 natty
>>742927919He's the therapistOr a fragment of Gaster that's goodOr both really
>>742927902I always knew FRIEND was a minion type character and that there were multiple of them People just REALLY wanted FRIEND to be a proper character instead of Eram's pets so they made up headcanons of Eram being the one singular FRIEND
>>742927840The King's Castle fountain wasn't pure darknessIt must just be that FRIEND wasn't interested in you yet
>>742927474The entire point of the dark world is that Deltarune is operating on 3 (potentially more) layers of separation. To the characters in the game the darkeners are just illusions and shouldn’t have value, but to us as the player they’re all equally fake and that impacts how we perceive the story
>>742927919Gave a growing BOY an egg
>>742927654Ch5 is also really easy to get I think, the suspicious wheat is really obvious, but I really doubt you'll need ALL of the eggs. It'd be kino if getting all of them would actually make things worse.
>>742927086It's only 8:30, cunt
>>742927902I have never seen that in my life. I think you are schizo.The fight has always been between "EXISTS AND MATTERS" and "DOESN'T EXIST AND DOESN'T MATTER"And exists and matters bros won BIGLY
GASTER IS A FUCKING EGREGOREDELTARUNE IS A SUMMONING RITUALYOU'RE DOOMING US ALL
>>742927950I think the Vessel knows that, which is one of the reasons it pushes for the Weird Route.
>>742924934I mean, the FRIENDs already help you in the ERAM fight.
>>742924934Cats=independentIt show Friend is an enemy to the Prophecy and enemy to God, Heaven, Jesus Kris and all of this wholesome shit. Going against the prophecy is actually evil.
>adds few lines of dialogue randomly at midnight>get a thread that reaches one thousand postsK-kono powah
>>742927162the truth of deltarune reveals itself through dreams
>>742927665This is why you need Noelle to freeze everything over.
>>742927780I'm a member of the midnight crewI'm a night owl and a wiseguy tooHome with the milk in the moooorningSinging the same old song (same old song)
>>742927902People were dreading the idea if it was done poorly. This just makes the friendlings more interesting. Besides, there's still people coping over the dialogue and ignoring that specific part anyways, still treating friend as a single entity.
FUCK it's 6 30 am I was supposed to sleep like 2 hours ago. fucking cat fucking dog.
>>742928000or it was Seam>>742928007I legit missed it and had to backtrack because I completely went past that one square, Ch4 is just the one that flat out hints at the locations for the rest of them and then Ch5 man gives you a line of dialogue if you haven't found all of them.
But FRIEND gives you candy in MANTLE and gives you the ride for Spamton NeoHe's my friend! that bites sometimes>>742927902Friend SOMETIMES gives you help, like in the mantle fight, it's not a complete mindless killer
>>742927665Noelle is the one fucking it up and going crazy, not Friend or Seam
>>742928014Oh boy I can't wait for another night of wallachia
>>742928083I forgot, FRIEND also gives you ultra high score, that sometimes kills you
>>742927902It's a herd that can combine into one.It's one being, with the ability to turn into several creatures that swarm you
>>742928045I said it in the other thread but Toby has been edging people for almost 10 years now, anything that gets people closer to the payoff is going to make them go into a frenzy. It's also where most of the complaints of Chapter 5 being a nothingburger or having pacing issues come from, it's not that Chapter 5 is bad by itself, but rather it's that after 10 years of waiting the latest chapter is still just building up to a payoff that nobody knows when it's gonna come, and people are getting tired.
>>742927731I believe in HMOFA saving the world and curing depression of the entire fandom
>>742925131>Kris>herYeah, girls act like THIS. Kris is definitely not a mischievous boy.
>susie slept in the dark world on the nights of CH4 and CH5>there's a FRIEND in castle town (possibly two if seam is one)>susie suddenly shifted to be extremely pro prophecy, being extra attached to noelle, and is now trying to drag her into the dark worldsleeping in a dark world with an active FRIEND lets the bastard compromise your mind.susie has a FRIEND inside her.
You couldn't findyour hand.
>>742927665>darkners at castletown are about to get fucking massacred>meanwhile Tenna at Mettaton's home
>The ch 6 holiday mansion darkworld will be more like the mountains of madness than a snowdin 2
>>742923495THE HAND
>>742928147While realistic it's already been said the main Friend is a big one separate from the smaller friends. The Big Friend is the severed hand
>>742928163>Only surviving darkners will be Tenna and Mr SocietyI feel it
>>742925923
>>742927902I thought it was pretty obvious friend wasnt a single entity after the entire Eram fight, but people kept insisting otherwise.
>>742927779I hate how this was framed as we are going to have coomer artist drawing Friend milking Kris with blowjobs rather than imply that protein=human flesh
>>742928153RightMischievous
>>742928014Speak not the FRIEND,Draw not the FRIEND,Write not the FRIEND,Sculpt not the FRIEND,Sing not the FRIEND,Call not the FRIEND's name.
inb4 FRIEND is just Toby's IRL friend that asked to put him into the game the same way Toby does with himself and the Annoying Dog.
>>742926158>Susie will heal him.Anon, Susie couldn't be more obviously a villain in the making.
>>742928014we must simply GET STRONGERto defeat the pink and yellow menace.
>>742928045>people complain about vagueposting>Toby adds even more vagueposting, but this time about the topic people wanted>People go insane despite there being zero payoff to any of it so farI get a feeling that the only thing people want from Deltarune at this point is to make their theories real.
OH NORMALNPCVCKSWHERE ARE YOU
>>742928253FRIEND is Andrew Hussie
Meat factory... protein...
>>742928202>>742926339
>>742928156>Friend gets exorcised out of Susie in chapter 6>Susie immediately dumps NoelleYour honest reaction?
>get on to finish my chapter 5 replay for the dialog>remember where I'm up to
>>742928275>hurf it dun namedroop freend dat mean it voogpost!
>>742928280Making snow cones for ch 6
>>742928307
>>742928297Umineko stocks are through the fucking roof
>>742928147Nah those were just the limbs of FRIEND's resl body
>>742922645Why wouldn't he be gay for Ralsei?
>>742927902It was incredibly obvious after chapter 3, but people kept ignoring it because they wanted another gaster-like character for this game to dump theories onto. I honestly think that it being a bunch of terrifying and mindless pack creatures that obsessively stalk and eat people is more interesting.
>>742928307>>Susie immediately dumps NoelleWould be kino, but it's blatantly obvious that Noelle will break off with Susie, or have a complete meltdown, when she discovers Susie is the opposite of the person she thought she was.
>>742923762>noelle releases a bunch of glitched pets from catpetterz into the wild>several years later>kris and the forgotten man are being hunted through spacetime by cheshire catsis this bitch NOT responsible for something?
>>742928326It didn't even namedrop anything, that's the thing. It's the very definition of vagueposting. It's simple theorybait.
Im seeing people say that this new dialogue about friend outright confirms that Dess is the Knight, qrd?
>>742926940>and noelle gets grounded specifically to try and keep her away from castle townI think that's exactly what will happen. All Kris has to do is make a call.
>>742927902>>742928368It's a nice middle finger towards people who want to befriend every single enemy.>>742928398She didn't create FRIENDS. Remember she was in Kris's party in the original loop, she was a heroine.
Well this needs updating
>>742928424Alphys.
>>742928156Only after Lake bells ringing, she started to obsess over heart beat of Noelle. There is something in the water.
>>742928326I mean it is a vaguepost. Even ifCats = FriendsCat handler = EramProtein = EggsPerson in hiding = Forgotten Manis obvious, people are going to debate over these four identities it because it's vague. That's what creates the wiggle room.
>>742928423There's vagueposting and then there's not connecting the dots that Toby laid out for you.
>>742928275It's course correcting after everyone gave up on FRIEND due to the Mike niggery that made them think FRIEND was just an irrelevant creepy easter egg due to how dismissive it felt for Toby to boil down any mentions of FRIEND like that.We were always supposed to wonder about FRIEND, and we were absolutely supposed to think about MANTLE beyond "DUDE IT SHOWS YOU HOW TO SNOWGRAVE" and the more recent "DUDE TWISTED ROUTE" beliefs, namely the fact ERAM summoned and commanded multiple FRIENDs in the boss fight, but none of us clocked it to a degree that satisfied Toby, and the next thing he knew everyone was just shitposting about Pirate Gaster, Hometown Butcher, shipping wars and NTR memes while ERAM was only ever known as "John Mantle" and Secret Boss validity discourse.
>>742928240Is this image BASED on anything?
feels very sloppy and made up on the spotall of deltarune 'secrets' feel this way; just kind of setting stuff up but never resolving anythingadd it to the pile of vagueposting slop
>>742928202Kris fingering Susie confirmed
>>742926787What are you smoking, how is Friend the "true main antagonist" in any fucking way? Yes, it bites. No, it's not the cause of all this.
>>742928424We could see shit in a toilet in chapter 6 and people would say it's Dess Knight evidence
>>742925259>KRIS YOU NEED TO STOP COLLECTING EGGS ITS ATTRACTING AN ELDRITCH ENTITY THAT IS GOING TO KILL YOU>"omg this is like the shadow people that hunts down trxnxfolx"what?
What's his/her endgame?
>>742928472I do wonder how Toby feels about the Pirate Gaster thing and the restaurant turns into a pirate themed pub after the worms get cleaned up
>>742928487>krisxnoelle relationship portrayed as anything other than a fucked up tragedyno
>>742926940>>742927104>>742927341Are we entering levels of LVDO previously only believed theoretically possible?
>>742928375Gerson-pilled chapter 4 Susie is ironically the person Noelle wants, but when she goes back to that she won't want Noelle.
>>742928438ok
>>742928507>No, it's not the cause of all this.friend is literally the whole reason why any of this is happening.the conspiracy nonsense is all a ploy to get rid of FRIEND because its targeting noelle.
>>742928424The dialogue mentions that some people even change their appearance to get away from the friendlings. QRD is that Dess is terrified of friend and turned into the Knight to get away. That simple. Despite the fact that the dialogue points far more towards Spamton instead since he's been outright implied to look completely different to how he used to look.
>>742923495Two hours before the patch I woke up in a cold sweat after a nightmare with this fucking cat. he was speaking extremely slow and mispronnouncing words. No scares or anything but he was tormenting me. Saw the udpate news rn and got scared shitless, this nigga is a cognitohazard who jumped me in the dream realm to let me know he's coming.
>>742928261b-but flowery said...NOTHING IDIOT FLOWERY IS DEADHE LIES IN MY BASEMENT!
Damn, a small new dialogue of a cat girl telling you to watch your fucking back is the most exciting new lore of ch5just like the lake wr
>>742928472Anon, you were the only person who thought thatFriend was consistently brought up and gaining importance, mike was mentioned ONCE
I get the feeling that everything revolves around Noelle. Literally everything.
>>742928613Mike was just a fucking alias for eram and anyone separate I'm sure of it
>>742928561>Gerson-pilled chapter 4 Susie is ironically the person Noelle wantsWrong. Dead wrong. Susie wants an eternal present. Noelle wants a rupture.
>>742928641you ought to have known this since chapter 2
>>742928307Susie can barely stop herself from raping Kris in Chapter 5 AFTER her date with Noelle. Its obvious something holding her down
>>742928398Oh God Deltarune is literally based off a meme
>>742928641
>>742928641It's been pretty apparent since the weird route was first discovered anon
>>742928424Im confused on what the Knights relation with friend is even supposed to be at this point. They share the same laugh, but thats really it. Anything else is schizo theories.
>>742928548It's a tragedy, but not fucked up. The two clearly care deeply for one another, and their relationship is closer to devotion than just some teenager crush.
>>742928641I know
>>742923495What the fuck? this is 100% fakeToby "Vagueposter" Fox would never give us anything like thisCan anyone else confirm? I don't trust youtubers
>interesting, more confirmation that the Dark Word is connected directly to Noelle’s interests (Cat Petters)>open thread>omg omg friend inside me is a demon working for the egregore Gaster who was summoned by Catti and Kris and ate Kris soul and is going to bite his hand off so he can’t even jerk off while he sits in the cuck chairmOh my gooooood
>>742928424My brotherHow does the mewmew doll know about FRIEND?
>>742928641SHE IS JUST A FUNNY DORKY DEER
>kris and the knight are on the same wavelength >they pose the same >they make the same colored fountains <gerson doesn't seem to recognize Kris and he shows no signs of playing along with the plan, unlike Tenna or Seth
>>742928720its real yo
>>742928654This. The two want the exact opposite from life.
>>742928641That was incredibly obvious with chapter 2 and that entire spamton sweepstakes thing. Noelle was always going to be a major character in the game regardless of route.
>>742925296KINOOOOOO
>>742928467You're mistaking the dots Toby has laid out for you and the dots you found in the game files. Take a step back and think about the info you have in the game itself. It boils down to basically nothing. And Pink talking about some cats isn't giving you any new facts either. Try to analyze it using only in-game facts you've been presented by normally playing the game, it'd sound like random flavor text. That's what vagueposting is in its essence.
>>742928545I think he fucking despises it. Imagine that this eldritch entity that you've been teasing for 11 years and two games turns into a silly pirate hijink
>>742928720Toby finally realized that he vagueposted too much in CH5 and finally decided to give actual lore
>>742928641No one else matters. No one else matters.
Did the newest patch kill bagel overflow?
>>742928548They both deserve a happy ending. I can make that happen for them!
>>742928746The Knight is Kris's heartless
>>742925296
>>742928698they were both associated with *the incident* with the big FRIEND correlating with all the hand shit that Kris is involved with from Ch3. Ch5 confirms through Asgore that the Knight was involved somehow and has been opening fountains
The Roaring by itself is just like a transitory phenomenon you can survive
oh.
>>742928827IT KILLED M
>>742928583So the theory went from Dess being turned into the Knight by friend, to Dess willingly turning into the Knight on her own accord to escape friend(s)?
>>742928808I think you're projecting. Gaster's entire thing is not being anything. So he can be anything.
>>742928654This eternal present begins the time loop that will break the prophesy, and in any case it is not just blindly following it.
>Fandom think Friend is the mastermind and not another red herring distracting from Noelle as the final schizo boss angelAll according to plan
>>742928641I knew Kris was doing all of this for her before, with this new lore, Kris is 10000% doing all of this crap for Noelle
People want to deny Alphys knight because it's lacking in aura, but it's what has the most evidence.
>>742928641https://youtu.be/I5hrqMMmoKs?si=2fjZC1Dopftoof3-&t=17
>>742928847>FRIEND will hunt you down across saves
>>742928641Chapter 7 is going to be released during Christmas
>>742928153Damn, if only there was a mischevious girl character that acted like Kid Kris...
>>742928847OH FUCK
>>742928438Just add in 4 more friends, simple.
>>742928894Circumstantial evidence with no motive
>>742928894I don't care. It fucking blows and I'm not thinking about it until it inevitably gets confirmedNo one likes Alphys besides people who think they have to for the hecking lesbians
>Update so scary it killed bonnie tyler
>>742928892In reality is another red herring distracting from the fact that chapter 5 sucked ass. All according to plan.
>>742928847To get the good ending, you need to have only cat type Darkeners recruited on your third file and a CD bagel in your 6th item slot on the first file, then in file 2 do 10 laps around the shelter after acquiring a hotdog from sans (cannot fall to the ground or you have to start over) then
>>742928945What's the motive for any other knight? We know no one's motive.
>>742928654Gerson just allign with Flowery implying Susie and Kris can resist the darkness from the water with their inner liight shieeet
Alright. Let's see how retarded you guys are:https://strawpoll.com/e2naX2DbwyB
>>742928884I think it sorta overplayed on who is assigned with Gaster Obviously the goners in Happytown are aligned but FRIEND, the Knight and ERAM I have doubts on.
>>742928847Explain this to not terminally online wiki browsers.
>muh generalsEat shit, janny.
>>742928929Schizo theory
>>742928880Eh, i dont buy it, given that the Knight isnt exactly trying to hide anywhere. Why would it take residence in the shelter if that is where theres like ten thousand of the friendlings reside?
>>742925142YFW The Fun Gang gets incapacitated and you fight FRIEND with Jevil, Spamton and Mew Mew
>>742925259I refuse to believe i share a world with these creatures, they must be connected from another dimension.
>>742928641oh.someone get me a new bingo card>>742929004It means the weird route isn't necessarily uh, "contained" to one save slot.
>>742928892FRIEND is just an elite mook, we literally saw ERAM conjuring multiples in its boss fight.The real ERAM the game sprite is based on probably isn't the true mastermind, but it's absolutely a major figure in how shit went horribly wrong for Kris considering he was genuinely fighting back against (You) trying to enter the shelter in MANTLE.
>noelle can't equip aqua's knife anymore
>>742928998Need a separation for who is in hiding and who changed appearance, so Forgotten Man and Spamton
>>742928676>FRIEND is redirecting Susie's feelings for Kris towards Noelle to drag her into a dark world because she is the real target
>>742929004flags can set other flags no matter what save file you're in, at least that's what it sounds like. time loop keeps getting more and more confirmed
>>742925259AAAAAAH IT’S EATING MY PENISSSS HELP ME SISTERS
>>742928979Carol/Rudy: Trying to bring Dess backDess: Uhhhh, I guess it's because of prophecy shit
Shadow crystal bosses always foreshadow the main boss of the next chapter, so I guess…
>>742929004it means the game now has the ability to call the flag that gets enabled if you do the weird route in ANY SAVE FILE
>>742929053wait what for real
>>742929021Show me a non-schizo theory.
>>742928641putting doefuckers into a cannon and shooting them into the sun
THEYRE EATING MY FLESH
>>742929083NOT MY PROTEIN
>>742929078PLEASE LET ME PLAY THE FIRST TIME LOOP WITH NOELLE
>>742929018>rampant console/platform/idpol war threads, porn/ecchi dumps, sharty raids...>people talking about a VIDEO GAME on the VIDEO GAME boardREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE *shits adult diaper*You don't hate these faggots anywhere NEAR enough
>>742928847I had always assumed this was the case and was ready to face the consequences
>>742929093You can't know for sure, just like you can't know Alphys's motive just yet.
>>742928894I dont even want to fucking hear about another autistic Knight theory after years of Papyrus, Asriel and Rudy knight autism
>>742928720real as the grass outside.>get the egg>beat pink>interact with FRIEND (top of the beanstalk connecting the garden and cliffs, jump right, act immediately)>go talk with pink again
>>742923495>toby got so butthurt about ch5 being seen as filler he had to add endgame lore
>>742929083GIVE IT YOUR FORESKIN AS AN OFFERING
>>742929078>>742929097Wait, wasn't this always the case? Or am I confusing it with Undertale and Deltarune had no such function before?
>>742928847I'm telling you it'll be too late to get the Twisted Sword if we try to get it in chapter 6, FRIEND will have already killed Mallius.You'll have to find some way to smuggle the pure crystal into an earlier chapter
>>742929045>>742929078>>742929097This is Undertale all over againJust like how genocide route actually affected true pacifist endings
>>742929121We have the chud MILF and goth childbeater variants if the secretly crazy dork is too much
>>742928847>when you start a new game you overwrite Kris's save fileAnother layer of Kris hiding from FRIEND
>>742929004it means the consequences of doing something in one save file is no longer contained to that save fileIt means FRIEND is going to hunt you across saves
>>742928894Temmie is the knightShe went crazy after she discovered nothing exists outside Hometown, and she will thus never go to colleg
>>742928641>I get the feeling that everything revolves around Noelle. Literally everything.Kris got himself in deep shit trying to save Noelle, huh? Well, I guess there's nothing shameful about dying for the sake of someone you deeply care about.
>>742929185UT only had one save file, but did fuck with it if you ever did a Genocide. This looks to be similar where Weird Route will infect your other save slots, which are implied to function like UT's 1 save file, but Capt. Gaster gave you three of them.
>>742929219>Friend encounters in earlier chapters where they didn't happen before Mus_friend here we go
>>742929018
>>742929108Unironically Cheese Theory LMAO
>>742929248>tem sukd dik for colleg FOR NOTHINGsadness
Speaking of the wr, i saw in a video if you delete the ''_b'' name in your savefile, you can actually see the black completion star, meaning that you complete the chapter, but the file was erased
>>742929182>just shout loud enough and Toby will change parts of the game>this has been going for a few chapters nowI hate reactionary storytelling. What happened to him being all "I want to tell my story and if people don't like it it's fine" during chapter 1?
>>742926787Friend cant be the main antagonist since it's confirmed to be multiple separate creatures of the same species, said creatures being mindless beings rather than hyper intelligent ones. If anything, it points towards who ever has control over the pack of friendlings being the main antagonist, and even then I doubt that they'll necessarily take the role as the main antagonist/antagonistic driving force from the Knight.
>>742929018As per usual.>>742929130>You don't hate these faggots anywhere NEAR enoughTrust me, yes I do.>>742928847The consequences were always going to follow us. It will be better.
>>742928847>the game now knows you did weird route regardless of save>it also knows you got all the eggs regardless of saveI think I will not be doing the twisted sword massacre anymore
>>742929219>Start up chapter 1>Get this>Scream
>>742929319The WAIT has been killing him just as much as the rest of us and he probably regrets ever releasing Chapter 1 in the first place when he could've kept working on the full game in silent secrecy between himself and his confidants.
>Friend attacks you in the cathedral early in the dark echo section in another save file>Friend chases you in cyber world >Surprise platforming chase in ch 5
Despite how obviously wrong Alphys Knight is, I do like that it is at least trying to tackle how weird it is that Kris and Susie get locked in that closet in chapter one. The closet dark world in general is such an enigma that we haven't even been given the slightest clue as to what its deal is.
>>742929341THIS KILLS THE KRIS
>>742928847>can get any flag from across any save slotno no no wait WAIT WAITI DIDN'T SIGN UP FOR THISYOU CAN'T DO THIS TO ME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Eggs are evidence. Friend is specifically hunting for people who have the eggsThe real question is, is Eram the one who owns the pack of Friends, or is it someone else? It would explain why they summon friends in their fight
>Start a new save>Friend attacks you in ch 2 Wwh
>chapter 6 start>susie leading noelle to the dark world closet>"Okay, I know it's weird. Try not to freak out. But, that day at the library, it wasn't a dream. Here, we'll see Queen again! And--">everybody in castle town is getting ravaged by a pack of scary motherfucking cat demons because of your bullshit
>>742929319>>742929182i really hope he specifically planned to do this after release, because if he actually just added this due to backlash, I have no hope for the next part of the story
>>742929341I wonder if Temmie will die if you get all the eggs since she’s holding them
>>742929369>how obviously wrong Alphys Knight isHow so?
Mental illness game, they are aware what a useful tool for youth indoctrination this game is, Toby is being paid for it.
>>742929309Save slots are implied to be more than just that if the dialogue in Ch1's file select proves anything. Copying one save to the other two slots will have Gaster say that "Preparations are complete" or something
>Friend is confirmed as nothing more than a mindless pack animal that serves higher authority in chapter 5>The Knight is confirmed to be its own entity completely separate from any lightner in chapter 6
>>742928910>Toby is going to make FRIEND Mister X who will keep chasing you down no matter save file you are playingDeltarune is going to be a horror game at this point
>>742928641Did toby see a deer come out of his screen in his fever dream?
>>742929424Even if alphys is in the bunker doing shit she's always been one to get a robot to do shit for her or hide behind muscle
>>742929424I don’t like it
>>742929341>after obtaining all eggs there is a FUN value that will replace random NPCs and enemies with FRIENDMmm yes
>>742922645Why is Undertale so fucking gay overall? Its fanbase is gayer than AIDS
>>742929325I prefer the idea of FRIEND being an independent entity that follows its own goals/nature and can cooperate with whoever it chooses.
>>742928910>FRIEND will hunt you down across all your video games
>wake up>FRIEND might not be a nothingburger after allNot what I expected, but cool.
>>742929424There's no compelling evidence for it, and The Knight has antlers. It being unrelated to the Holidays would be unbelievably retarded.
>>742929450>thinking it hasnt always been a horror game
>>742923495It's still vagueposting>>742929319100% agree, but maybe we'll get some Kerdly crumbs from this.
>>742929501 But are they real demon or fake demon?
>>742929495too bad this is a console game too, otherwise he could've snuck in some truly spooky shit like FRIEND appearing on your desktop to fuck with you.
>>742923495So this pretty much confirms that the colors stand for friend (pink) and egg (yellow)What is Anthony Fuchs trying to tell us?
>>742929459I don't doubt it.
>>742923495He acknowledged the complaints of people saying Pink was story irrelevant lmao
Honestly I'm kinda losing hope right now.Unless the Twisted Sword unlocks genocide tier hours of boss fights or kino that put Weird Route scenes to shame I don't see how it could be that interesting.Same with the Weird Route, that chapter 7 side B better be long as hell if you're skipping chapter 6.
>>742929403eggs are evidence for friend's existence
>>742928438have normalnpc and friend do a bro handshake
>>742929548>This expressionDiamonds.
>>742929538Depends on if the real Eram (ergo, the entity the sprite in mantle is based on) is the demon that Kris and Catti supposedly summoned.
>>742929568It's the final Chapter of course it's gonna be long as fuck.
>>742929475THIS CANT BE HAPPENING
>>742929507See >>742924880 >>742548510And also whatever is going on with Alphys's cats now.
I just woke up, funny how a single patch turned this thing back into the Psycho Cat from Planet Super Hell
>>742929416I mean, we knew FRIEND was important since ch2 because of the spamton sweepstakes, the problem is that Toby went too far with the vagueposting in this chapter, even people saw Mew as filler but she's being a cat was always relevant
>Mountains of madness had creepy pale penguins and swarms of sothoth blobs hidden in the depths Holiday dark world going to be nuts
>>742929416Imagine if people get him to change the ending if they're not satisfied with their theories being addressed. Imagine being cucked out of your dream story by the reacting it created. It's not HIS Deltarune anymore.
>the grin on chapter 3's icon changes into the knight's visor upon completion>The Knight in Chapter 4 also has the same laugh as FRIEND during the ERAM boss battle.What the fuck are we supposed to take from this?
>>742923495Without lores smiths I legitimately would have no clue what this is even about. I still dont really get it.
Now that the possibility of FRIEND having the tail of hell has become lower than ever, who actually has the tail of hell?I think it's the Vessel, especially after all that talk about humans having tails in the Orange fight.
>>742929660It is really not that important but people love anything to do with the stupid fucking cat, all it says is>the cats don’t want you to have the eggs
>>742929650take 5.don't go onto social media for a week.I've given up on my bingo card and just need to get away before something seriously bad actually starts to happen.you should too!
>>742928847>I remember you're Snowgraves
>>742929501He's not a nothingburger. But I fear that it being outright confirmed that it's multiple mindless/stupid creatures rather than one single entity means he probably isnt going to be some major mastermind-type character that people thought he was.
>>742929716Wasn't that due to pink convincing orange that humans had tails
>>742929620I kinda wanna fuck him
>kris screams after the spamton neo fight because he realizes what being targeted by friend looks like and what it did to spamton>he's literally got a first hand look at his and his friends' future staring him in the face>he knows there's no escape>but he's still tryingwhy do we hate this nigga, againhe just wants freedom from the demons
>>742929660It's just some vague bullshit character like Gaster but is even more vagueposted by Toby than Gaster (somehow).Don't worry about it, unironically.
>>742929459It's reasonable to assume the dream somehow involved Noelle. The question is will Toby actually get there without losing sight of that dream.
>>742923495Where were (You) when Vauge Tony got RAPED into a corner?I was here, in this thread.
>>742929758And normalNPC is a goon at best but people still hype them up
>>742926251We're dealing with an Umineko situation. Player character is "battler", NPCs are piecesUndertale was gameboard 1 (gaster elevated to game master)Deltarune is gameboard 2 (GM is gaster but is experiencing interference by unknown parties)Like Umineko, you can play respecting the pieces of the game and understanding them, or disregarding them and "gaming the system"
>>742929047Wait so is Mantle just a retelling of the weird route?Will real ERAM / Seam be exclusive to weird route?
>>742929740>Nothing changes except Sans mentioning that it's weirdly cold in chapter 2 hometown
>>742929786"doe girl is chased by cat demons she gave birth to by tormenting digital cats" seems pretty feverdreamish to me.
>>742929650The Knight is Dess, who got kidnapped by FRIEND and is now body-snatching her.
So this pretty much destroys the idea of friend and the Knight being on the same side or atleast friendly to eachother, right? Same with the Knight being with Gaster.
>>742929765The demons he chose to summon in the first place like a retard.Everything is STILL his fault, and the only reason Catti didn't get any of the suffering is because she's a cat.
>>742927990Showing my appreciation for this post before the thread dies forever
>>742929809A gooner if you will
>>742924514>punish you for playing the game????????
>>742929765He hit me with a hockey puck, so now he's just along for the ride
>>742929846What makes you think that?
>>742929634>Noelle's basement is one of the only place in the game other than the shelter that plays the garbage noise
>>742929825Not exactly, Mantle is multi-purpose.It shows how to start Weird Route, it seems to implicate there's another route where you go murder crazy on all of Hometown that branches off of Weird Route, and it also shows that there's a non-Knight entity that Kris truly and genuinely fears who lurks inside the shelter.
>>742929851that's conjecture, we don't know if kris summoned friendthat can be unrelated
Why are people calling the cat satan? I haven't kept up with the hidden lore stuff of the game.
I just hope this made Toby realize that vagueposting too much is not good
>>742929929the fuck? it does?
>>742929618She wasn't at every dark fountain creation, she has no antlers/isn't connected to the Holidays, and most damning of all: she's completely disconnected from everything going on in the plot.It just doesn't make any sense. It's only a little better than Papyrus Knight or Vessel Knight.
>>742929939>I haven't kept up with the hidden lore stuff of the game.well then how the fuck are you expecting us to answer thathe's related to the tail of hell prophecy in chapter 4 for startersand we just got the reveal that he is hunting us
>>742929957https://www.reddit.com/r/Deltarune/comments/1m08fms/i_havent_seen_anyone_talk_about_this/
side b is going to get sent out by parts to your email address, to access it, you need to find some one else to complete your part
>>742929846There isnt really anything outside of schizo theories that point towards the Knight and Friend being on the same side, and even then there isnt anything pointing towards them hating eachother either. Gaster isnt on any side, people think he dislikes the Knight because of the dialogue during the fight, but he's just interested in you constantly throwing yourself at a fight he knows that you're destined to lose. But the Knight still has some sort of connections to the both of them. Has the exact same laugh as friend, and has the same hole-in-hands that Gaster does.
>>742929940life is a vaguepost
So why did he make fun of people saying Mike was a cat? We were clearly on to something here.
>>742929957its a pretty dark place already so it checks out to me, if the Holiday Mansion is one of the Dark Worlds that basement is going to be a pretty dangerous place.
Am I alone in not caring about this reveal at all? Feels like another vaguepost to tide the theorists over
>>742929975why the fuck has no one talked about this shit
>>742929957it's the same as the shelter noise, if you speed them up by 666% it's the garbage noise
>>742928043>Going against the prophecy is actually evilAccording to who? The one who wrote the prophecy?
>>742930007Mike is an unrelated mystery to the FRIEND/Eram mystery, that's why.
>>742923762She made them because she’s a complete psychopath.
The cope is unreal
>>742929716Shouldn't have underrated him
>>742930007he didn'tfriend appears during battat gamethe trio is disguising themselves to escape from friend but it didn't work, friend is already inside castle town
>>742929939The name of the cat is IMAGE_FRIENDGenerally, things with capital letter it's Gaster stuff, and Gaster is always connected with the number 666Basically, the fandom calls it the Gaster Cat
So is the reason why Gaster considers eggs an issue because he's worried for our safety from FRIEND?
>>742930014It's the first time Friend has ever been officially acknowledged and that it corresponds to the eggs. Use your brain, anon.
>>742930007Mike wasn't a unique entity, at most they were an alias.And that they are three telegraphed the idea they're multiple friends and not one
>>742930014It's just exciting to get anything at all at this point. It's cool that The Forgotten Man's story doesn't seem to be over, and it's cool that Friend, Gaster, and probably Eram have some shared grudge against him for some reason.
>>742925296wheres the sound
>>742930067Wait when did friend appear?
>>742930014Maybe, but since we didn't had that much lore in ch5 thanks to the vagueposting, this feels fresh
>>742930007Because it was actually insane to think Mike was going to be a bigger thing, it was a reference to something connected to Tenna and his past that would make Spamton sad to think about because he was trying to hype himself up for the future
>>742929127>Kris (in his rogueish original version)>Noelle (fully in love which is reciprocated, in a relationship with Kris)>Vessel (in his original body)>Catti (the cooky cat occultist)The Golden Ending will be unlocking this loop as New Game+.
>>742930095possibly, but I try not to think that hard about the achievements for PS version of Deltarune. It'll get like one unique scene where Gaster just calls you a crazy man for somehow dodging all the trophies because Toblerone hates achievements in general but Sony forced him to include trophies since it seems to be a hard requirement to get your game published on PlayStation
>>742928847https://code.deltarune.wiki/ch5/?search=scr_get_chapter_flagI don't see that function in the code.
>toby releases a patch>VERY VERY INTERESTING WHEN THE SHADOW GROWS NEAR THE EGG>4chan explodes in theories and nonsense over vaguetext lets remember we are still one year (minimum) away from chapter 6!
>>742925296Wow she's even hotter like this Jevil and Mew Mew are the best secret bosses
>>742929716susie has the tail of hell>has a tail that she doesnt want people knowing about>leading noelle (targeted) into the cats cradle (dark worlds)>this idea came out of fucking nowhere, and can only be explained by her obsession with noelle (which also came out of fucking nowhere)>all of this out of nowhere stuff came after she slept in a dark world>THE TAIL THAT MUST NOT BE FOLLOWED>as a bonus point, she's the dragon and dragons are known for having pointy tails
>>742930018Because nobody knows what to make of it, beyond vague connections to the town's roots
>>742930201doomkeks have been btfo
>>742930095No, its an issue because the Forgotten Man is on the Big G's shitlist. It's the Forgotten Man who's trying to make sure Kris doesn't get ripped apart by a pack of wild FRIENDs, telling us to put the egg somewhere after giving one out
>>742930196Would that even be updated already
>>742930095No anon, Gaster is sending friend after us BECAUSE the eggs are issues, and they need to be eliminated. It was out right said, the Cats aren't smart. Friend has an owner. Friend is being made to do this by who ever has the pack of Friends. Which is likely Gaster or someone Gaster related. Gaster did something that he wants no one to find out about.
>>742929765Kris is unironically shooting himself in both feet and kneecaps trying so desperately to circumvent us and keep us in the dark at every turn. Kris has the power of absolute determination in side them and acts like its a curse.
>>742928530can you please be less racist against shadow people?
>>742930147if you do good enough at the battat game, FRIEND spawns in and gives a shit ton of points but sets your fuel to 0.
>>742930097I have never once given a shit about Friend
>>742930179>>Vessel (in his original body)>>Catti (the cooky cat occultist)The biggest, final, most gut-wrenching reveal is that Vessel and Catti were a couple. Because of the loop she forgot of his existence.
>>742930258We love Noelle!This is a Noelle board!Even if FRIEND probably was born from her careless innocent slaughter!
>>742930268Why doesn't he just block us from the survey program then lel
This cat is canonically fucking retardedsay something nice about it
>>742929078>flags can set other flags no matter what save file you're inThat's not what this does. It's just an utility function that lets the game read any flag from any save or completion file except for SIDE B completion file (for now).>>742930262It was just added? If so, then yeah.
>>742928847Wow... that's like... le bad. le very bad even.
>mew mew knew someone who had a pack of catswho originally owned mew mew?
>Once they find a target, they will never stop chasing it until they get bored
>>742928202this collage really needs "beware the man who speaks in hands"
>>742930349he's very good at keeping people off his tail.
>>742928583>QRD is that Dess is terrified of friend and turned into the Knight to get awayDoesnt even make sense, especially since the dialogue is very clearly reffering to spamton in that regard. Hell, even fucking kits himself out with multiple items that protect against cats. Its so obvious that snippet of dialogue is in refference to spamton, but nope, it is actually in refference to Dess being the Knight.
>>742930345Because that isn't very interesting.
>>742930330>FRIEND somehow is like flowey and actually the byproduct of a ritual to resurrect Dess after Kris accidentally caused her to fall down Probably not as it seems like friend is more ancient
>Butthurt Yurifags are now pushing the theory that Noelle is evil.
>>742928281would be kinda kino ngl
>>742930349it's a good kitty>>742930358don't downplay things here buddyboy. Noelle breaking through the game to [somewhere else] can't have left behind a perfectly [cauterized hole].Things are [bleeding].
>>742930295At best Kris and The Vessel were a couple, because of the whole Golden and Silver Cage kissing in Chapter 3 and Mew Mew being in love with a grey version of herself in Chapter 5.
>>742924514I'll just use save editor hehe
>>742930358We just wanted to go somewhere else ...
>>742930364Alphys gave it to Asgore irc
Imagine if in chapter 6 Susie teaches Noelle how to make a dark fountain and with her fucked up mindset she creates a cenobyte world
Eggs are protein. You fucked your save by collecting them.
>>742930458bingo!
>>742930484Hide your eggs
>>742929428Proof for this??
What's wrong with some eggs?
>>742930397Oh I meant Noelle just casually throwing away her catz because they were about to fall in love and the glitchy music with incompatible petz would spook herhttps://deltarune.com/catpetterz/
>>742925296For me it's the Muffet onehttps://files.catbox.moe/seh16g.mp4
>>742930484you know what else has protein? Meat
>>742930512normalnpc was going to make some breakfast burgers with those
>>742930295>>742930427No, the reveal will be that, on the original timeline, Noelle was in love with the Vessel.After he disappeared/died and became Kris's SOUL she replanted all their shared memories onto Kris.That's why he's so wildly different in her memories compared to present-day Kris.That's why Kris himself is more interested in Susie.That's why she's insane with joy on the Weird Route.Because she had always been in love with (You) and on the Weird Route feels (You) once again in her heart.
nobody realizes how little of a fuck toby gives about any secret or anything he just vagueposts for years and years and years about random stuff and his community festers ideas and headcanons themtoby is such a fucking loser I would not be surprised if the ending is just "you imagine what the ending would've been like" with his approach to things these days. it would be in line with his attitude and such a "crazy ending" that he dreamed up in a fever dream and people will eat it up
>>742930218The darkness under Hometown is connected to Noelle/the Holidays that’s why cat petters stuff appears no matter who makes a dark fountain. So in Noelle’s basement you’re close to the darkness
>>742928641Noelle is the one.
>>742930403huh? why lol, that's more of a Kriselle thing
"RELEASE THE FRIEND FILES" - Toby "doubt and irony poison stories" Fox after seeing people having more fun with pirate Gaster than whatever his team shat out in chapter 5.
>>742930547>No, the reveal will be that, on the original timeline, Noelle was in love with the Vessel.gross
>>742930484I'll just stick them in the fridge.
>>742930508https://deltarune.wiki/w/SAVE
I always found the diner in chapter 5 strange, to let you see all your recruits thereIt always gave me this sinking feeling that, for whatever reason, we won't be able to see anyone in Castle Town in chapter 6.Maybe FRIEND will have already killed everyoneMaybe Susie will ask Noelle to come check out Castle Town to show her a surprise, they'll go in, and it'll all be in ruins
>>742930057it's definitely a band-aid for the theory side of the fandom
>>742930547gross>>742930552are we seriously breaking out Mulholland Drive? Now?
>>742930547So you're saying the Vessel was the childhood friend all along?
>>742926971It’s fucked up because of Noelle
>Some people would do anything to get away from them, even change their appearance or go into hiding
>>742929940Are you kidding? I'm having a great time with this. I hope he keeps it up.
>>742930596oh, the flowers can't come with so they had their own little castle town there.
>>742930421>do 7b>lake becomes unnerving to the point that there's no NPCs there>kris, noelle, and susie all refuse to "relax" there or treat it as a hangout spot>the 'end of festival' segment for CH5 becomes kris's house because fuck that.>during CH1 onionsan talks about moving away because the lake gives her the spooks, and is gone in CH2>the side B entry needs significantly less proceeds since the hole has already been made.
>>742930596>Maybe Susie will ask Noelle to come check out Castle Town to show her a surprise, they'll go in, and it'll all be in ruinsThere are sprites of Castle Town buildings covered in snow and ice.We all know what will happen, the questions are just when exactly and under what circumstances.
>>742929403I've been wondering who the individual that owns a lot of cats is. In shortsighted minds, she might be referring to Alphys but I got someone else in mind, ERAM.Mew Mew is an established franchise right? What if ERAM is too? What if ERAM is a famous villain in the Mew Mew verse? I mean, Susie said the orange cat in Asriel's computer looked like Seam, there's a famous orange cat in Cat Pellerz, Mew Mew is surprisingly friendly with the ORANGE flower specificallyI feel there's something there.
5>2>4>3>1
>>742930651AIIEEEEEEEE
>>742930640It's the other person that Toriel was holding in one of the Dark Shards.
>>742930596I think we're likely to at least be able to see Seam againThe ch5 diner adds a lot to the chapter because the flowers have to share so much screentime with each other, no other dark world has as many characters that had important roles as this one
>>742930651>* (Between your fingers, a faint grey crease glittered stubbornly.)>* (... You can never wash it all away.)
Is this the epilogue of Deltarune?
>ERAM wants his pack of satanic hunter cats to sniff out the Forgotten Man and tear him to fucking shredsWhat the fuck did he do to deserve this?
>>742929650bruh that's the smile of otonashi ayana
>>742930687...is my rating in how shit the chapters are
>>742930673>There are sprites of Castle Town buildings covered in snow and ice.it's fucking over
>>742930514>You can immediately tell who Berdly and jockington are in the comment section
>>742930654I mean more how he needed to add this new dialogue because people saw ch5 as filler thanks to the vagueposting, unless you like that of course
>>742930715Where's my Berdly diner scene?
>>742930724deltarune was originally ERAM's playground.gaster (forgotten man) wants to make a new future, but this directly impedes ERAM
>>742930716oh no
>>742930514>comments disabledwhat did she mean by this
>>7429306872 > 3 > 4 > 5 > 1
Why is the forgotten man trying to get us killed with his eggs?
>>742930716yeah, funny thing about goners being so weird and all that right haha
>>742930724He's Kris's therapist.Eram wants Kris to get worseYou do the math.
>>742929716BEHOLD
>>7429306875 > 4 > 3 > 2 > 1
>>742930816he's trying to save himself by giving away his eggs
>>742930712>>742930547Those two in combination make actual sense.
>saves the lore in ch5
>>742929501Toby vaguepost too close to the sun so he had to drop some actual lore. With Mike, NormalNPC, Onion, Eram, Gaster and Friend inside me he coudn't just let Chapter 5 be just a filler episode
>friend isnt a gaster follower>friends are a prophecy agent and specifically are sent out to hunt down people who get a little to close to the edge>finding easter eggs and pushing the boundaries of the game to get into strange locations alerts the pack>ERAM summoning them in the game is a warning indirectly to kris that he is being targeted and will need to prepare>egg man gave away his eggs to save himself and if eggman is gaster that means even the G-man is being hunted down for trying to change things
Reminder that Noelle is a Mew Mew fan.
>>742930724>Finds the secrets to the Dark World>Successfully digs up evidence of that day>Actively giving it to KrisFriend doesn't like that Kris is getting less fearful about him. It diminishes a titan's power if the fear of the dark gets overcome.
So, what level of importance does friend have now?
>>742930810Berdly was being annoying But other than that I'm not sure
>>742930886So, why did it have to be basically modded in by Toby after release?
Bad Bew Bew
>>742930735nigga are you insane how did you see a subahibi reference here
So is ERAM the mastermind behind the FRIEND pack? It's handing us the Shadow Mantle and goading us into collecting Shadow Crystals? The fuck does this cackling little shit want?
>>742930886i'm sorry i doubted you queen
>>742930743Hope you gave away your tv anon, she personally wants to execute him
>>742930928We are at DEFCON level Inside Me
>>742930358>WR Noelle is noclipping you and Kris into another save file>Kris' save file
>>742930928chances of friend being an individual character with personality and motivation has droppedchances of friend serving a higher power and indicating that something even worse is going on behind the scene is at an all time highinvest in friendcoin
>>742930935Because you retards would not have engaged with the actual story if it was in day 1
>>742930959It wants Kris to be happy.
>>742930980Endo friendo!!!
>>742930912Then this makes sense >>742930676 Mew Mew was part of the Cat Pellerz game, that's how it knows ERAM
>>742930965IT'S MORE OVER THAN PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT POSSIBLE
>>742930935he forgot lol
>>742930928Gaster's personal attack cat that's strongly implied to be numerous. Probably a hivemind
>>742930259>>742930268>collect eggs from a mysterious man>Gaster consider this an issue to the point that he will unleash a pack of satanic cats to maul you down across ALL save files This makes all encounters with the Forgotten Man so ominous. Just what exactly are these eggs an evidence for? That's it's all a program?I thought the eggs aren't going to be something important
>>742930993Maybe the story shouldn't have been dogshit then.
>>742930959For Kris to cause the Roaring and free them from the ShelterA being of Darkness that can only truly be free in the deepest Dark
>>742930993>the actual story in question
>>742930993There was a story, Toby?
>>742931041I don't get why people think anything other than sans and the goners work for gaster
>>742931045they're not importantbut they're not not important also
>>742931045>I thought the eggs aren't going to be something importantWasn't the phrase not too important, not too unimportant?
>>742930928High level mook serving a greater power, likely whoever Eram in Mantle represents.
>>742930935People didn't like the chapter.
Kris was actually seething in this scene when he heard Susie say she wanted to bring Noelle into the dark world. He knows that FRIEND follows Noelle through the dark worlds.
>>742931045evidence that Gaster is a fraud and a thief who inserted himself into another world and fashioned himself as God?
>>742930917>by finding all of the secrets we override kris's fear of the dark with wrath for what happened to dess and what FRIEND/ERAM is trying to do to noelle>FRIENDs try to ambush him to beat down this problem before it can get worse>the first one gets 999999999'd and the rest scatter
>>742930959More importantly, where does the Knight fit into all this? The Roaring? The Prophecy? Seam? Wing Gaster, the Royal Scientist? There's like 3 different conflicts going on at once and none of it is making any sense.
>Everyman personally tore onionsan to shreds with his army of friends and chopped up the remainsHe didn’t deserve it…
>>742930651If kris is the vessel my only goal becomes lobotomizing him and gaining full controll
>>742931060kino
>>742930619>are we seriously breaking out Mulholland Drive? Now?"Laura is the one" is something the Log Lady says in season 3 of TP
>>742930965
>>742930514uh.. is Deltarune just a Cat Petterz 2 minigame?
>>742923495thank you! that wasn't so hard was it.
>>742930928Still "bonus lore" level like Gaster.
>>742924880Oh my fucking god dude this community and its theories are legitimately driving me up the walls.
>>742931134>kris pulls out the real knife and completely obliterates them
>>742931179I miss the log lady
So who is ‘they’
>>742931007This is canon btw
>>742931079Now instead it's Pink saying "ohh Kris those horrible cats Kris..."
>>742930651Spamton changed his appearance. Mew Mew changed her name to Pink. Anybody else trying to ghost their FRIENDS?
>>742930651>>742930716OH FUCK
>>742930886Stop right there. Now that you warned Kris, you can stop trying to fuck him
>>742931251alphys or >>742931007
>>742930947
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kGDNBFk9j5A
Realistically how does he wrap up so many questions in only 2 episodes?As it stands I feel like most things will be left up in the air unless one or both chapters are waaay longer
>>742930514>When pets fall in love, an egg appears and it hatches into a new pet that combines the animation and visual data of the two parents. Meaning, if you try to breed a hamster and a car, you'll either get a complete freak of nature XD Or, worse, you'll get this message.Is this trying to say that an Addison and a FRIEND fucked?
>>742931269>Vagueposting: >:(>Vagueposting - Cats :o
>that cat FRIEND can hop save files now huh...>I better keep my ass in this library!!! or im FINISHED!!!
>>742930993If this was CH4 full of lore sure, but this chapter was light with the lore and it was intentional, this feels like it should be in day 1, we always talked about FRIEND
>>742931292WAITMEWMEWQUEEN IS ALPHYSHOLY FUCK
>>742930349ME INSIDE FRIEND
>>742930928His relevancy is at an all time high. But his importance has honestly kind of dropped a bit given that its now confirmed that he isnt a lone special entity that is incredibly smart, but rather an entire group of special, but mindless cat-like entities. Like, he's obviously going to appear in future chapters and have a decently high level of importance. But him being called numerous and retarded gives me doubts of him being a central/sole antagonistic force and Mastermind like people originally thought he was going to be.
>ANGEL Faction - Noelle, The Knight>HELL Faction - Friend, ERAM>GONER Faction - Gaster, Gaster followers >The one to shift the balance - SOUL
>>742931097>>742931101I mean, they're looking more important than Roaring Knight, the current antagonist >>742931132What is this pic referencing?Also, this makes Gaster look so comically evil. No way Asgore actually hired someone like that
Don't forget about Aqua!
>>742931251le non binary mystery entity!
>>742930886MY QUEEN
>>742931343>He keeps killing people to get protein to save his ass
>>742931314Realistically? He doesn't. Most of the questions will go unanswered. Which isn't a bad thing. Some things are better left to interpretation and giving a definitive answer to them will just ruin it for everyone.
>>742931313this song is now a Jax troon song forever and ruined
Did Toby like forget he actually had to build up his villain or something
>>742930585Where was that retarded nigger that told me 3 different save slots wouldn't serve any meta purpose huh?????
>>742931404Not TOO important doesn't mean that they're NOT important, it's more in the sense that they're not going to be the MOST important thing in the plot, or probably close to it. Whatever they mean in the grand scheme could very well be more important than whatever the fuck the Knight's doing and why, and both of them could be less important than whatever the fuck the fox wants to vaguepost about next.
>>742931501The knight is obviously still the main antagonist, this is all side stuff
>>742931501Noelle and Susie have been built up every chapter.
>>742931501That's the theme of chapter 5.Toby just forgot.
>>742931314The same way he resolved it in Undertale. Last 30 minutes is going to be lore dump and final fight where we see a happy ending of Kris having missionary sex with Susie
Mew song also talks about the weird route btw>the world massacre>this time beneath the water>i don't understand these lyricsShe is a light schizo
who the fuck is ERAM? What are you schizos talking about?
>>742931314He'll take another cue from MOTHER 3 and have an NPC in Chapter 7 suddenly reveal themselves to be a giga loredumper, and spew mountains of exposition on you.
>>742930928Pretty high, but they went from being a gaster-like entity to more of a titan-like entity, important and unique amongst the standard deltarune entities, but mindless/animalistic and numerous in nature. I still think it's funny seeing people outside of here treating friend like a single character and the most evil character in the game when the new dialogue directly goes against both of those.
>>742931553the sword route boss luv
>>742931553chapter 3 sword route boss
>>742931501Every chapter is focused on Kris though
>>742931128No, it's simpler. Kris's #1 goal seems to be keeping Noelle away from anything related to the prophecy/events of the game, to the point he sacrificed his friendship/love towards her to do that.And now this dumb bitch is bringing her straight into it.Then there's the fact that even on this timeline, as someone above pointed out, Noelle has figured out the mechanics of the setting without even knowing she's within a game/prophetic cycle.
>>742923495We are SO back FRIENDbros. Although the demon dialogue from him/Chara was added in a patch so it's par for the course for him.
>>742931546deconfirmed lyrics btw besides the last one
>>742931557Realistically who is gonna be Leder, Sans?
>>742931557Who's gonna be our Leder analog? Sans?
>>742931501Remember how Undertale did it? You probably won't see the real antagonist until chapter 7.
>Friends only attack you on the sword routeProbably side B content
>>742931314Easy.>Chapter 6 takes place in Noelle's house>There's an angel figure in the basement that gets possessed by the SOUL in chapter 4 (foreshadow)>It can move towards Noelle or Susie (foreshadow)>Noelle talks about the Severed Hand in it (foreshadow)The prophecy will very clearly conclude in Chapter 6Chapter 7 will then be the Shelter which will deal with Hell, and it's not accessible without the Shadow Crystals>Aren't you forgetting something important?
the copium startshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhstINNjjKQ
>>742931617There is a more accurate version? you have the link
>>742931617>deconfirmedby who exactly?some tranny larping as japanese?
>>742931649I guess it'll be time to get stronger in hometown.
>>742931367Do you guys understand there is more to a story than just “””lore”””? Chapter 5 closed Asgore’s arc and is making it apparent that both Ralsei and Susie are starting to break down. It also established dark worlds canonically operate off RPG mechanics that Darkeners have to respect or there will be consequences, and set up Rudy dying and Noelle entering the dark world. None of the chapters in this game have been fucking “filler”
Did something happen
>>742931314Really, the only important questions are>Who is the Knight, what does it want>What was Asgore's past Incident(TM)>What are ERAM's connections>Shelter, obviously>An epilogue with Gaster (we don't need to physically see him, though)Everything else is just set-dressing.
>>742931617>deconfirmedlollmao
>undertale comes out>woah theres all this freaky shit if you kill everyone>woah wtf there's this completely different part of the lab during the pacifist route>people didn't even find out about goners until like weeks later when it started catching on>deltarune>"yes... the shadow shard... very ominous... when you look at it, you see... things">here's this repeating color pattern isnt that very... mysterious?!?!?! no I will not elaborate>so you see.......CATS.................I have tobyfox vaguepost fatigue
>>742931709no
>>742931693>>742931701https://deltarune.wiki/w/Cutie_Mew_Mew_Magichttps://www.materiacollective.com/music/deltarune-chapter-5-original-game-soundtrack/track/A49RVPNFMS92RJ0JBZTD#music-track-lyrics
>>742931709No, go back to sleep anon!
>>742931693>>742931701official lyrics were released https://youtu.be/VP9OH0O_V2Q
>>742931629>>742931632He's already showing signs of being a gigaknower between making sure Toriel didn't get kidnapped by the Knight in Chapter 4 and forcing (You) to take some bread that leaves behind crumbs galore on the Weird Route, so probably, if only because having him do it would also satiate the mystery of what the fuck is going on with him and his brother that's obviously not Papyrus at this point.
>>742931709The incident.
>>742931709Toby patched in some vagueposting about friend
>>742931709Everyone accepted that they're gay for GOAT hole
>dess confirmed knight >friend confirmed endgame Laugh at Rudy knight keks
>>742931482What if Seam is a "they" because it's all the Friends in a trenchcoat? Five niggas?
>>742931693>>742931701nta but the materia website has the official lyricsalthough it feels weird that a bunch of people independently heard the same thing and the actual materia site is generic magical girl shitbut this is cope on my part
>>742931731undertale was literally updated after the fact to enable the fun value goner shit you retard
We all have that one friend who is RED.
alphys
>>742931781Why, because she's leaking protein from her tits?
>wake up>thread is in full schizo mode>apparently some stelath update added shitwhat the fuck is going on
>>742931709More vagueposting but it's the one everyone likes.
>>742931736>>742931741Ok
Hey, FRIEND isn't going to GET me for all those posts I made about it, right? Those were just jokes, I didn't mean it
>>742931846...You are made of meat.Meat is made of protein.
>>742931815Mew told Kris to watch his fucking back or a pack of cats gonna rape his ass
WHAT DOES IT MEAN
>>742931781>Dess confirmed knightDess is stuck in the dark hearing scratching, she's already been caught.
>>742931720>What was Asgore's past Incident(TM)I don’t understand why people are acting like this hasn’t been explained.>Asgore in the past was chief of the police force>one day Dess disappeared and he went looking for her; he stumbled into a dark fountain where he saw the knight>nobody believed him about the fountain, and he drove everyone away trying to prove something that sounded crazy>Carol took him in because she knows about dark worldsWe also got confirmation that the dark world where Dess disappeared was not made by Kris, because he noticed that his skin color was different in this dark world
>doomtrannies are still desperately trying to copehow many times must you be taught a lesson?
>>742931846You're in a little danger.You don't have any protein on you, do you?
>>742931846it's time to spread those cheeks
>>742931846
>>742930217>>this idea came out of fucking nowhereShe's in so much despair at failing to stop the Knight three times now she feels they need more help and its between Noelle and Berdly for who has Dark World experience to bring in for backup. Berdly can either be fine, in a coma, or have his arm busted so he's not a choice from a gameplay perspective. Also Susie has Noelle on the mind throughout the chapter so obvious first pick.
>>742931786>giving him shadowcrystals increased the amount of FRIENDs inside him by one each time
>reindeer milk is graded for being naturally high in protein, among the highest concentrations of all lactating mammalsDECEMBER HOLIDAY IS IN ONE OF THOSE HUMAN MILK FARM DOUJINS
>>742931815Updated added new dialogue related to FRIEND, which specifically only triggers if you beat Pink, collected the Chapter 5 egg, and let the Chapter 5 FRIEND attack you.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mwahy1AN2M
>>742931787waiting for them to post the "correct" BIG SHOT lyricsany day now surely
>>742931879>What it was evidence for>>>was>All Forgotten man encounters bring Kris back to lv1So they were evidence for something in the past?
>>742931609>Kris's #1 goal seems to be keeping Noelle away from anything related to the prophecy/events of the game, to the point he sacrificed his friendship/love towards her to do that.this story seems more and more like madoka magica to me
>>742931752Will be pretty disappointing if he doesn't do anything to intervene until the end again desu (even though that will probably be the point)
>>742930345Because Toby would program him an asshole and send him to the dickwolves.Demons can choose to rebel against god but they cannot challenge god's will. Gaster at the end of the day is just another bitch
>>742931986Well it's hard to have evidence for something that hasn't happened.
>>742931986The accident... On that horrible day...
>>742932056>this will be on the test
>>742932071Is that supposed to be motherfucking friend on the bottm there
>>742931707You know what i mean, of course every chapter has story, hell even ch3 has heavy lore, i mean more how people (even outside from here) said that ch5 was light on lore thanks to Asgore vagueposting, people wanted to know about Dess and Asgore directly talking about her instead of just sayingTHE INCIDENT
>Chapter is so boring, discussion ends after a week>This pissess off the dog>spend 15 minutes on a code adding few lines Toby just made up yesterday>put it into the patch>People still think it's a great forshadowing to things you planned ahead while you never inteded to do anything with Friend in the first placecringe
>>742931965that's so oddly specific what the hellthe egg is already super duper secret shit but friend?borderline impossible to find unless someone tells you about it
>>742932141We know Anon, Toby's been shitballing since 2018 and never actually had a fever dream, he's just riding the coattails of Undertale's success for as long as humanly possible, etc. etc. etc.
>>742930928>>742930980HOLY SHIT THE KNIGHT JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE
>>742932056Cats are not evil, i'm tired of thinking that its going to be the case. He was always a Cheshire cat parody and meant to guide Alice (Kris) out of the Prophecy
WHICH CHAPTER FRIEND STARTED SNIFFING AROUND?THE CHAPTER WHERE NOELLE FALLS INTO A DARK WORLD.
>>742932141I look forward to seeing how ch6 handles storytelling. I bet we will get some backpedaling lore dump right at the start
>>742932141Worst of all, it's working. Watch how people's opinion on ch5 improve after this.
>>742932134Yes that's where he is in Chapter 5
>>742932250Most people's opinion on the chapters depend on the schizobosses (why 2 and 3 are the best chapters)Chapter 5 just got a massive upgrade in that department
>>742932250It's already happening in this thread lolThe fact is the people are way too emotionally attached to Toby's games to see them objectively. A lot of people grew up on them.
>>742932141Hey it's something, retarded tony made the mistake on thinking people would understand his vagueposting, also FRIEND was foreshadow back in ch2 with the spamton sweepstakes, it was always there but the retarded dog went too far with the vagueposting
>>742932169I watched my friend play and he found itBut he's very thorough and also found out you can spare Seth's glasses and other bullet patterns if you don't attack for minutes
>Dess believed Noelle>Had army rations in her room in preparation for something
>>742932141If it wasn't Japanese complaining about lack of lore, he would never bothered to do it
>>742932250I already liked Chapter 5.
>>742932360Imagine knowing about the dark worlds and still getting trapped in the depths LMAOOOO.
>>742932139What the fuck more do you need to know about Dess disappearing you have been told EVERYTHING
>>742932250Flowery had already improved my opinion on chapter 5. I don't care about this at all
>Toby wasn't secretly making New Game+>It really took 7 years to make chapter 2, 3, and 4I refuse to believe it.
>>742932489Believe it
>>742932464We still don't know what the fuck happened to her, and people are so desperate for a concrete answer that they're taking Noelle, mid-psychotic break, saying Dess "left" as confirmation that "lol nothing happened actually she just ran away from Hometown and was never seen again!" while ignoring that this means every single character obsessing over what happened to Dess is a literal retard who's been chasing a ghost who was never actually a ghost.
>>742932489Toby's work on the game is as vague as the vagueposting in the game
>>742932141>I can't believe you didn't pick up on the context clues. It was practically spelled out for you!Why are creators like this.
>>742932464Come on you know what i mean, Asgore saying that Dess was killed or something directly, again it's not just me saying it, even people from the outside said the lore was light
So what's the lore reason for Kris not communicating with the soul to bring them both on the same wavelength?Nothing?Okay then.
>>742932489In a sense I really wish there's a newgame+ of the original prophecy that has Noelle instead of Susie so bad, and it would justify the really long development cycle but then again Toby fox started his Japanese life, doing whatever and getting wrist injuries, so who knows which one is it.
Thank you Toby for watching my dream.
Friends are actually stand ins for secret enthusiasts and lorefagsThat's why they're so obsessed with finding eggs, specifically easter eggs
but doesn't Friend still damage you without the egg?
>>742932605Asgore doesn’t fucking know he isn’t intentionally keeping the player in the dark by not saying. All he knows is she went missing and a dark fountain was where she was last seen.
>>742932620Gaster thought it'd be funny if your SURVEY_PROGRAM had limitations on player-to-player character communication, and Deltarune's world runs on MOTHER logic where you can't perceive dialogue from a character you're playing as.
>>742932665dont do this mike shit to menot again
The anti-thesis of god (Dog) is a cat
>>742932725What's the synthesis?
>>742932665that would ne the funniest thing tobert could do
>>742932665>Gaster is the inevitable fate of lore fags>Friends are the mindless drones hunting down Easter eggs
>>742932783catdog
>>742932783acorn
>toby was so pissed off at people shitting jn the vagueposting he added new shitKekaroo
>>742927919we'll know when it happens.
>>742932489Toby alone wouldn't be able to do NG+ but with a team it's just a matter of coding and restoring content that's ready for it. I think actually NG+ is more possible now than ever before.
>>742932665GENTLEMEN... WE'RE FINALLY BACK
>>742932894>he added vagueposting that those retards likeftfy
NG+ isn't unbelievable given most of Noelle's stuff is already in the game
>>742932665no...
>>742932665Toby please make this real that'd be so fucking funny.
>>742932956So how hard is Toby gonna bungle the ending?
NOELLE CREATED THAT FUCKING CATKRIS IS DOING ALL OF THIS FOR NOELLEEVERYTHING IS NOELLEDELTARUNE?NOELLE RUNE
>>742932489>>742932534>>742932597>>742932642>>742932949There's precedent.Faith: The Unholy Trinity team were working on CH3 before even CH1 released, and CH2 is several times longer than both previous ones combined.
>>742933000NG+ with WR Noelle!
>>742933052Personally I don't really care for the answers of the mysterybox, I want him to deliver an impactful climax. Make the effort of doing everything, timeline hopping left and right and fighting difficult bosses worth it.
>>742932956Kino...
>>742933095NG+ with WR Noelle would be her freezing the entire town and figuring out how to get out together with Kris.
>>742933081No one else matters
>>742926562>>Gaster = NyarlathotelAlways bet on Kristsuya ending
