Why doesn't anyone want a Chinese GPU?
they badeven worse than AMD trash
Probably because games are not optimized for it, amd is the second most popular gpu manufacturer and theres still hiccups
Same reason no country wants to buy their military tech, even though shills keep telling us China is ahead of the US armed forces.
>>742934002they're like 3 or 4 gens behind in terms of power. maybe in 10 years or so they will be worth it.
don't even know how to buy one
>>742934002>Buy Chinese GPU>Computer explodes
Chinese kinda suck in creating products for consumer markets all by themselves, their recent dominance in mobileshit and gacha games has been a happy accident that the CCP boomers keep seething about because it is wrong kind of a success.
>>742934256Go to local panda express
>>742934085Yet everyone here owns a AMD CPU>B-but their CPUs are betterLmao cope with your high soc/ccx/memory latency/shit USB hubs that makes dragging the mouse slower than Intel
>china bad>>>/pol/
>>742934383America is bad but China is far worse. This isn't up for debate. You would have to be retarded to think otherwise.
>>742934002that article is about AI not gaming
>>742934383>>china badYes
>buy chinese gpu>gweilo.cmd window pops up for a second and then dissapears>gpu always hot and never goes under 50% usage with an even larger power draw>webcam always on and mic always hothmm
Another thread where /pol/ discord raids /v/ why do you fuckers do this
>>742934506GPU's can do both.
>>742934383>china badYes. Go back to seething in the fujo mobile game thread.
>>742934347>Yet everyone here owns a AMD CPUbecause intel sucks even more
>>742934651>Y U NO BUY CHINA CARD WHITE BOY?!
>>742934002tofu dreg graphics card
>>742934002Cuda is proprietary and amd has better raster performance. Shit even Intel's arc GPU is better for cheap ai than chink shit
>>742934383MOTHER LOVE ME LONG TIME LONG TIMESUCKY SUCKY FUCKY FUCKY WANTONHONG KONG HONG KONG WONTON HONG KONG WONTONONE TIME ONE TIME WONTON LOVE ME LONG TIMEFEED ON MY LONG SCHLONG GO BACK TO HONG KONG GONGI'LL SEND YOU BACK TO HONG KONG PAIR A WONTON WONTON
>>742934002There're GPUs not made in China?
>buy chinese gpu>Rendering a Winnie the Pooh>Bricking your GPU and causing it to explode inside your PC
>>742934002I don't want my PC to just randomly exploded one day and kill me.
>>742934383But in /pol/ they love China
>>742934085Is amd bad?
>>742934383Yes
>>742935138can they compete in top gaming?>butno, they do not even try
>>742934002They need to improve the softwareWonder what will be the cope when they start to beat AMD and Nvidia in gaming GPUs
>>742934443America is based fuck you>>742934383>Defending China>>>/Lqbtq/
>>742934651Shut the fuck up ccp bot / useful idiot
>>742934687Why are you even talking about china cards on /v/.Go to /g/
>>742935220I do get that, quite obvious. Truth is, top gaming sucks anyway. Why bother for a 50xx if you play 30 year old games? Cyberpunk looks great, but is a shit game.
>>742935220>Top gamingYou don't have a 5080 or a 5090. You have a 2060ti because you are poor. The best buy GPU this gen is the 9070xt and it's not even a discussion.
I've seen the benchmarks, it does worse than intel integrated graphics while also consuming 300 watts
>>742934443china bad! source: american media
>>742935346Because this is the videogame board
>>742935354well yeah, if you dont care about that stuff, it does not matter. just buy any 'good' mid range card.but if we compare them, many suck
>>742934383If you can't stand the sight of your motherland getting slandered you're free to stay on your side of the firewall.
>>742934002Do you even understand how difficult is to make a GPU driver? let alone the GPU hardware, you have to work with game devs, smelly stinky dumb games and then try to decipher what kind of retardation they are trying to articulate for you to actually fix the problem or make it work for them, you have to work every every single big dev company out there.This is why Intel got laughed at with their shitty israeli backdoored GPUs
>>742935404 noi used to have a 2060s, but got me a 4080s last year. it beats almost all amd still now. 50s are a scam and the 4080s will be fine for more years anyways.>the best (in this scenario i made) is....whatever faggot
>>742934651Because /v/ is one of the most active blue boards and is borderline SFW /b/ thanks to lax moderation.
>>742935521It's not even that, they just don't really put much effort into a good software stack.I'm running a huananzhi h12d-8d motherboard, and while there are multiple fan headers, none of them can be controlled via software. In the bios, you can only set two of the fan headers (one for cpu, and another for ambient mb, and it's not even a fan curve; all you can do is set the slope). In linux you don't have *any* temperature sensors from the motherboard.There's no QVL neither. Want to know what kind of RAM this board supports? Fuck you.
>>742935909And that's a good thing
>>742935138no. it's just fanboy shit.
>>742935750I accept your concession, poor fag.
>>742936936no u
>>742934002Because both NVIDIA and AMD could barely figure out driver so China has no one to steal from.
>>742935220Which games need more than a Ryzen 7 or 9 to run? What even is this comment?
>>742937250
>>742934002Chinese avoid chinese products. CCP propaganda only works on retarded westerners.
>>742934347Maybe if intelaviv wasn't sitting on its ass for more than a decade producing unstable electric heaters with bad performance in both gaming and productivity how is that even fucking possible?
>>742934443>One is a chill country that haven't dropped a single bomb in half a century nor does it sanction/impoverish others. It provides cheap and good solar energy, EVs, smartphones and AI for everyone>Other is an invasive warmongering moral shithole led by child rape island visitors that wants to monopolize everything and rent out it at a premium>Actschually, the former one is worse and you have to be retarded to see otherwise
>>742934002made in china has always been a mark of a shitty cheap product and over the years not much has changed even though china has been going overdrive in propaganda to convince the world of the opposite
>>742937574>Says le ccp are spreading propaganda while clearly posting false propaganda Many such cases
>>742937850>lying wumao pretends a fucking video of china isn't realkys
>>742937405So you concede AMD is fine for top gaming. Cool
>>742934585so uh whats the difference between regular american products and that
>>742937574My watch is a Huawei and my phone is a Xiaomi. Might get one of those Haval or Chery cars one day when I do get a new car.Anyway, nobody buys Huawei phones specifically anymore because America banned their chips because they wouldn't have been able to compete fairly. Same reason said Chinese cars are banned in USA- There would be a reckoning
>>742938571Many of them are probably very status-obsessed
Honestly? Lack of driver support would be the main issue for me.If they can get past that and be significantly cheaper than western efforts I'd buy in though.
>>742938252>AMD is fine for top gamingthread is about GPU's, not CPU's. and one or two of the AMD gpu's can do that. best is still NVIDIA, and its not even close.tell AMD or Intel or even China to make good high end GPU's and i would consider buying one of them. no need to rush now. im not buying any for a few years.
Theyre flimsy and ineffective
>>742938674Ah okay I thought you meant the CPU's there lol
It took intel many years to catch up with mid-rangeamd/nvidia gpus.The best chinese GPUs are 1060 tier and the drivers are uncooked because gamedevs are tarded and you'd need a million manhours to fix it.tldr: give them time
Can a 1660S do 4k if the most demanding games I'd play are Gates of Hell and War Thunder?
>>742934002get the tech up and make sure drivers are good and people will buy it, nvidea needs competition
>>742938919Why do you have a 4k monitor if you only have a 1660s
>>742938507>asians see american products as high qualityjesus christ
>>742938674lolRasterization is all that matters
>>742939082Or 30fps
>>742938404>My watch is a HuaweiShow your burn mark lol. You fucking retard.
>>742938815No
>>742938507>>742939080When the opposite is the truth. A Chinese phone of equal or even less cost will be higher quality than an iPhone or Samsung
>>742939082A lot of people don’t know this but the human eye is based on the design specs of the Sony EyeToy for the PlayStation 2.
>>742934869They couldn't make the most crucial components; the west purposely never shared the most cutting edge manufacturing method for chips to china. China did tried to replicate the chip machine by hiring former tsmc engineers, but even those turncoats doesn't know the secret sauce
>>742939168That was Fitbit you horses ass
>>742938404>Same reason said Chinese cars are bannedProbably a few other burning reasons, it's a really explosive topic.
>>742938815Yes like an asian penis!
>>742938919I upgraded from a 1660 ti to a 3090 because I was sick of 40-50 fps on 1080p medium/low. All I got in return was 40-60 fps on 1080p ultra high. At least my spreadsheets are buttery smooth 2x 1080p 240 fps.
>>742939290Theyre goons nigga
>>742939286lol keep coping changyour wrist watch is going to explode
>>742939315Stop letting Jews scam you
>>742939082>>742939132just get a MedX*tm CyberEye*tm made by ElonMusk*tm powered by the newest NVIDIA*tm AI*tm Technology*tm
>>742939356>Theyre goons niggakys lying wumao
>>742939290>Posting ancient picsIt's been solved now. You WILL buy BYD
>>742939048I'm asking to know whether I absolutely need to goy up for jewidia's talmudic ploy or not
>>742939476hahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAkys
>>742939290They’re sanctioned to make room for Elon’s subsidized exploding cars. I love being an American and paying for the privilege of limiting the free market to things I’ve already paid for with my taxes.
>>742939219Eyetoy was the shit. Still remember the ninja game
>>742939562You realize you can post the same kinds of catastrophic failures for petrol/diesel cars right.
>>742934002Terrible driver - zero games to play
>>742939618I went from a Samsung to a Poco. I wish I could make you understand the insane (positive) difference. The only knock is the camera is only good, Samsung's are really good.
>>742939585>I love being an American and paying for the privilege of limiting the free market to things I’ve already paid for with my taxes.same same broGlory to Israel
>>742939048>>742939553*Whether I'll also absolutely need
>>742939895Free trade != Globalism
>>742939857Seriously why the monitor? I'm guessing for kinos? And if you want 60fps+ at that res yea I doubt a 1660s will cut it
IIRC the tech inside them is three generation old NVIDIA chips.
>>742934085>worse than AMDSo they’re better than Njudea?
>>742940264no
>>742934002Because it's trash AND will spy on you. Not that the latter is a dealbreaker, since all hardware that uses parts made in non-taiwan worst china will spy on you even if it says made in wherever, your fucking mouse will spy on you if it's ever crossed chinese borders.But also the cards are trash too, and people generally want to avoid giving money to chinks who want everyone but them to be dead or a slave.
>>742940096Free trade alone is not the entirety of globalism
>>742940373Goes much beyond that. My point is you can have free trade and maintain sovereignty
>>742940551Only if you let them
>>742940047My current main is due for a replacement and there is only so much you can do with aliasing on really small or faraway objects at 1080pAlso I could use the screen real estate for work
>>742940374Ah yes Jewnited States and it's vassal states really care about your privacy. 555comeonnow
>>742934347none of it is true btw
>>742940739It's probably just their version of >Thing, Japan desu. But USA
>>742940374Do you GENUINELY believe US made hardware doesn't spy on you? Like, actually?
>>742939553anon at this point even a 9060 XT is better than that. No need to pay jewdia
>>742939331>All I got in return was 40-60 fps on 1080p ultra highthat doesn't add up. I have a 3080 Ti and a 1400p monitor.You should get way more FPS than that at 1080p
>>742934002The hardest part isn't hardware itself; it's drivers. All the software they can make are gachashits and UE5/Unity slops.
>>742938626All Asians are like that especially the Koreans are even worse.
>>742941416You'd think. I was all excited to play the newest, bestest games but reality hit me with random 30 fps. Maybe was my cpu. 3900x and sn850 2tb.
>>742934383If you lived in china you wouldn't even be allowed to posted in this places dumbass.
>>742934383Don't you have a thread on pol you need to spam about the Jews in? How can you get black market oil for dogshit weapons unless you disarm the kikes?
they're not available anywhere
>>742939476>>742939673Việt here, we started importing chink car battery for our EV and it start exploding too.
>>742939969Protectionism is when you reshape your domestic industry around a foreign national and subsidize every breath he takes while continuing to export manufacturing.
>>742934383You should Kys saucy/boco. You’re a worthless nigger.
>>742934085Shut up kike Amd GPUs are most value GPUs in 2025-2026
>>742940306Yes
>>742941859>Maybe was my cpu. 3900x and sn850 2tb.I had a 3700x before upgrading to a 5800x3d that I had the luck to found new on amazon last year, and I was hitting way more FPS even with that CPU.Maybe is the resolution itself. the CPU is bottlenecking the GPU at that resolution, but even then, you should hit 90FPS at minimum.I'd check your PSU and CPU cooler, I dunno what to tell you.In which games are you hitting 40-60 fps?
Because they suck. If they don't suck, people will buy them.
>>742937753China is bad for a multitude of reasons that you choose to ignore because you're mad about certain aspects of America.>Because they do not give two shits about IP theft or patents they'll just take something that works, rip it off, and produce it at such low margins that the original person or company that created it cannot compete against the knockoffs.>If you want to do business in their country you cannot open your own business in it and just pay the country some fee like every other country on the planet, you literally have to give up trade secrets and a significant portion of your company over to either the government or a Chinese company itself.>Straight up lies about their GDP and actual economy health which is why no one seriously invests in their stock market.>Pretty much the only innovations to come out of the country at all in the past 50 years are solar and battery technologies while everything else they produce are all over the place in quality or just outright stolen from western markets but made worse. Or they just straight up heavily monitor you.>Constantly bitches about being unable to sell certain products in western markets yet can't grasp the fact that their wages are so low that it is impossible for any western country to compete with once they become flooded with their products.Case and point, their EVs are destroying the native EU car market because no one can compete with those prices. Even Japan is being hit by this.>China is willingly supplying ammunition to both the Ukrainian and Russian war efforts just to make the most money possible even though it literally signed a memorandum stating they would personally defend Ukraine from Russia due to them giving up their nukes.Just because the country itself is beautiful and the average person there is a good person like everywhere else on the planet doesn't mean you can pretend like China isn't some mess of a country because you have grievances against America.
>>742942454Ready or Not (early access lmao), Arma 3, Ultimate Admiral Dreadnoughts, Automation.The temps seemed okay, under 65. PSU was some random corsair 850w that now lives in my little brother's pc.I don't really play these kinds of games anymore though.
>>742934002China doesn't have 3nm lithography yet. Give it a few years.
>>742934223The road wheel falling off that chinkoid tank after doing the bare minimum required of an MBT was hilarious.
>>742943121>Ready or Not (early access lmao), Arma 3, Ultimate Admiral Dreadnoughts, Automation.>I don't really play these kinds of games anymore though.either you're trolling or something was clearly wrong with your computer.
>>742939759Your ching chong English is misleading no one, shilly billy.
>>742934002CIA is enough. I don't need Chinese too.
>>742942887>Because they do not give two shits about IP theft or patents they'll just take something that works, rip it off, and produce it at such low margins that the original person or company that created it cannot compete against the knockoffs.And this is bad because?..The current IP system holds humanity back and chokes any semblance of innovation.
>>742934002do you want a gtx 670 do you want that will cost you more than 10 bucks
>>742934270Nvidia already have that covered, though?
>>742944186>And this is bad because?Because it completely disincentivizes new products coming to market as the whole reason people bother innovating is to gain money from their product and become successful. Even within China they're extremely protective of their battery innovations. When anyone can just make something you are the first to figure out, flood the market with it, and reap the rewards why even try?You can dislike how Disney completely massacred the copyright system, but that's an abuse of power and corruption at the legal level. As a concept it is completely fair and should reward people for creating something that finds success. Life of the creator is completely reasonable as them and their generation after will be set, but after that it's on them to diversify their portfolio or invest properly instead of resting on their laurels.
>>742943917Burgers have destroyed all the shit they gave to Iran as well.China is a joke of a country propped up by the wumao brigade on the internet, they won't take Taiwan because they can't.
>>742942887>>Because they do not give two shits about IP theft or patents they'll just take something that works, rip it off, and produce it at such low margins that the original person or company that created it cannot compete against the knockoffs.To be fair, after what happened with Canada, insulin and diamonds, I cannot hate them for it.
>>742942887>you literally have to give up trade secrets and a significant portion of your company over to either the government or a Chinese company itself.America did it to tiktok
>>742934085cool it with sinophobic remarks
A Chinese GPU will never happen. >it won't be cheaperFlagship chink phones are about the same price as a flagship iPhone at the same specs. Chinkware being cheaper is a mirage. For example, you can find budget Chinese earbuds that punch way above their price, but it's still not comparable to AirPods. And when you do look at Chinese options that are comparable to AirPods, it's the same price.>the consumer GPU market is not lucrativeThat's the fact of it. You may never acknowledge it, but Jensen Huang is keenly aware of the struggles in the consumer tech space and he's kept GPU prices as low as he possible can. MSRP hasn't really changed over the last 10 years. He hasn't been jewing you. You should be more thankful that he's dictating GPU prices and keeping it suppressed. And then there's all the aftermarket care and service in terms of drivers and shit. That all adds up. The Chinese would rather just make good CPU coolers or other self-contained gadgets and accessories, sell it to you and forget you ever exist after.>optimizationGood luck getting developers to optimize for your GPU. Why would I waste my money on taking that gamble?
>>742944169China is a paper tiger, Russia is a paper tiger, America is fucking up against Iran and their track record isn't great either....is it just that everyone kinda sucks at war?
>>742935404just bought a 9070xt yesterday. The price is insanely good, not returning ever again to memevidia and their AI slop "features" that turn their GPUs into overpriced pieces of shit
>>742939673>I can cherry pick a few explosions because I'm lying sack of shit wumao while you collect hundreds of exploding chinese EV each weekGo ahead and try chang. I will always outnumber you 100000 to 1.
>>742934223>Same reason no country wants to buy their military techReally? Didn't their planes btfo India in their latest border skirmish with Pakistan?
>>742945795War changed a lot since WW2, specially with nukes and drones around.China and India had to literally go medieval in their water wars out of fear of MAD.
>>742945495Yeah, because it was tit-for-tat paired with the fact that they refused to disclose what data was actually being sent back to China. This is a blanket requirement for all companies in China, whereas in America it was a specific retaliation to their own rules and refusal to answer basically anything.
>China has a domestic policy to "replace all foreign hardware and software from its public infrastructure with homegrown solutions"This is a good thing, even Russia is still primitive when it comes to semiconductor technologies.Russia is like Africa tier when it comes to modern technology.
>>742946026No air defense can stop drones.
>>742946026Drones are dominating the current meta.Even during early Ukraine, a single Turkish drone did irreparable damage to Russia naval fleet.
>>742946039>This is a good thingNo, it really isn't. Domestic brands that are forced to be created are nearly always terrible and worse than the alternative, just look at Russia doing exactly that recently because Putin wants control over the censorship. Even if you want to ignore the quality problem it consolidates power towards one specific point a government can control with whatever superfluous laws they want which further promotes countries getting more autocratic or draconian.Domestic solutions for things like government institutions, bank security, and stuff like the power grid makes sense and that's fine. It's when you spread out from it that it's a horrible idea.
>>742946039Russia was described as Niger with snow by one of Google's high ups
>>742945997>War changed a lot since WW2You mean like nobody sacrifices their entire country to go to war anymore? Other than Russia.
>>742945941Yes.That's why there is a continued concern that China has permanently outstripped the US in tech, as the Rafael was considered second only to the F-36.China got a 1 to 5 confirmed kill rate with their jet design.
>>742934307>that the CCP boomers keep seething about because it is wrong kind of a success.They are absolutely right
>>742946319Even Russia didn't plan for it, the war was only meant to last for 3 days.
>>742943917The air defense was shut down by insiders.It's almost confirmed this was an inside op due to the window for American bombers being 2 hours long, not before or after.
>>742946334>literally one singular case because jeet pilots are retarded>oh nyo the chinks have defeated the F-35 platform that has sortied hundreds of thousands of missions all across the world successfully
>>742946272>far betterIt's a fucking toy with a bomb attached. A simple frame with a lawnmower engine if you want a long range one. What is there to be "advanced" about? Only way you can make it better is by making it even simpler and cheaper.
>>742946520You are comparing civilian tools made by the factory to govt multi-million dollar war planes?>>742946556>the only time since WW2 that warplanes from 1st world nations met in real combatAlso, not the F-35; it was the Rafael.
>>742946334>as the Rafael was considered second only to the F-36>Supa China prane second onry to prane that no existUh huh.
>>742946585Your goatfucker shit is a toy with a bomb attached. And as its development is in stasis, countermeasure capabilities will catch up to 100% effectiveness.
>>742946671There's also the weather resistance and optics.
>>742934249This.
>>742934002everything has a startpeople laugh at china for tryingbut the question is did your country even try at all?its always like that. People laugh at china for failing but their countries didnt even try to attempt making one.when spaceX was crashing shit left and right people were laughing and now they've basically perfected suborbital space flight.
>>742946798>ESL can't readOkay, sar.>>742946785Real life > memes.
>>742946280Harware and software is infrastructure just like the power grid.
>>742946946>when spaceX was crashing shit left and right people were laughing and now they've basically perfected suborbital space flight.SpaceX still crashing...
>>742946980A picture with no context or dating?
>>742947007>all got destroyed>all got turned back on afterwards, according to leaked after reportsAlright.
>>742946334Spoken like someone who has no idea why the Russians lost the Moskva.
>>742934002First generation tech that I already have better ofI would be maybe open to recommending them as a cheap option for somebody looking to get into PC but if they ever actually got a foothold the state would come down and fuck with them
>>742946957>ESL can't readYou can't even get the names of the things you're talking about right.
>>742946742>the only time since WW2 that warplanes from 1st world nations met in real combat>jeet on jeetIt's a pilot issue. You cannot remove the pilot factor out of the picture. It wasn't even a dogfight. The jeet didn't even know a missile was coming his way.
>>742947031Chinese gun testing, their weapons had severe ballistic problems as demonstrated by the shape of the holes.
>>742946742>the only time since WW2 that warplanes from 1st world nations met in real combatVietnam?
>>742946946Because jews literally, if every country started to build their own fabs, JEWSA would try to ban them from export and ban them from getting ASML because it fucks with the monopoly of TSMC making everything.
>>742947031Chinese rifles start keyholing at embarrassingly short ranges.
>>742935138No, that other anon is a retard. I use AMD myself and I play games all the time and it's perfect for gaming. But if you want to do AI shit then yes Nvidia is technically the best but you gotta spend a lot of money because entry level is trash. But if you at entry level or midrange AMD is as good as Nvidia. It's the thousands of dollars Top End where NVidia is better. But unless you a rich idiot with more money than sense or someone who use it to make money you ain't going to drop that cash for a GPU.
>>742934002>chinese business model is about being as much scum as possible while cutting as many corners as possible>GPUs have to run well>chinese GPUs do not run well
>>742947459Reality proves otherwise with trump sucking their dick, pipul doesn't work here shlomo
>>742946897It's possible they use underpowered training rounds. But any other cause is standard chinesium in action.
>>742938674You idiot. Nobody is spending 1 grand, 2 grand or more for a fucking gaming GPU. Everyone is buying entry level or mid range. At those prices AMD is good. I know because I game on AMD and I have a great experience.
same reason chinese cars were shit until they weren't
Is it really that hard to believe China can do something right? I can't praise anything Chinese be it a game or product without a horde of retards descending upon me and having a schizo meltdown.
Hope you like asbesthos in your GPUs
>>742947706Indian cope, you're just poor and stinky.
>>742947853so shit they're imploding the german car industry?
>>742948006do you think the internal combustion market for cars will shrink or grow?
>>742944956subhuman muttoids can't even beat Iran, all the mutt military bases in the gulf states got bombed to oblivion by Iran, of all countries.When subhuman mutts mention paper tiger, it's projection
>>742948115Boughtedwhat now?
>>742944169Not as much as US. Subhuman mutts lost to Iran. Not even a superpower nation.Can't even deal with their cheap drones. Kek
>>742948157No little wumao that did not happen but keep coping about your joke of a country.
>>742934002I'm fine with buying them, they just need to get good enough first.
>>742946385>>742946427Kek. Westoid cope. Even France came out and announced their Rafail jets got shot down by J-10 from Pakistan during the skirmish with India. Amerimutt confirmed it too. Are they wumaos?
>>742947932>oh yes baby let me waste 3k for 10 extra FPS to flex on the poorsBitch how about you put that money on an index fund or real estate. Unless you are making 7 figures, which would make spending 3k on a GPU akin to us normal folks buying groceries, you shouldn't be wasting money on a 5090. I grew up poor. Absolutely, but that taught me the value of the dollar and now I make sure to buy what I necessary need not overspend just to flex. I put my extra money I don't spend every month for investments. I want to be able to retire at 55, not slaving away until I'm dead.
F-35 is basically a tranny and kills itself.
>>742935479There's a reason nvidia is like the #1 company nowadays and amd is... Well in the same planet as nvidia.
>>742948582SAAARR. Subhuman jeet gonna claim France and US are wumaos pushing propaganda?
>>742947902>can't praise anything Chinese be it a game or product without a horde of retards descending upon meHint: They're paid to do this, or have been converted into drones by those who've been paid to (they do it for free.)
>>742948151Without a radical advancement in battery tech electric cars will lose popularity in the middle and low end markets once we start hitting end of life on the majority of the vehicles currently on the market.ICE vehicles can be maintained for decades with minimal effort until the car itself falls apart. Individual components can be replaced as needed to keep the vehicle operational. Electric vehicles on the other hand are limited by the life of their battery system. Replacing the batteries is more expensive than a vehicle of that age would be worth, meaning the vehicle has a hard end of life point.
>>742934002Performance isn't great compared to even Intel and AMDDrivers are somehow worse than Intel
China is bad, stop supporting bug eating, smoke inhaling communists
>>742946385That's a very long way to go. AFAIK they already have the stronger output and are key players in key technologies. Their innovation and growth is cooling down fast. Imo it's really a question who breaks first in the coming financial and economic tsunami.
>>742948756Poopjeets lost to Pakistan with Rafail jets. Cope and seethe
CCP shills are the flat-earthers of geopolitics.
>>742935138AMD's biggest problem is they think they can charge the same as Nvidia for products that aren't as competitive.If they priced things based on how they actually perform then they could take significant market share, but they're always like $100 more expensive than they should be at MSRP (even before the crypto and AI booms)
>>742947902The only chinese product(s) I believe in are IEMs and some phones.
>>742948840They have no problem detecting muttoid planes in Iran, though. Shot one of them down too
>>742948909When China started shitting out EVs purely to say they were the world's leading producer of EVs, most of them went unsold and got left in vacant lots to rot.
>>742949001But they did in Iran. Shot down one of amerimutt's jet too.
>>742948748>ICE vehicles can be maintained for decades with minimal effort until the car itself falls apart.The common market doesn't do that, they run their shit ragged until it falls apart then get something new, or just until they're bored and want a newer toy. Never mind how newer cars have been actively trying to limit how/how much people can work on their own vehicles in all of kinds of scummy ways. The assumption that most car-owners are amateur mechanics driving decades-old vehicles is some kind of pipe dream idealism.
Plenty of people want a LiSuan 7G100 , it's just very difficult and expensive to get one. They aren't sold to Americans, so you'd have to use a shipping agent to forward it to you, but idek if shipping agents support JD purchases yet. At the end of the day, it would be too expensive for the performance it offers.
>>742948748ICE cars are full of overpriced electronic garbage that's all linked together now so one minor fault means you have to spend thousands just to fix it because the car's CPU sees the tire pressure sensor die and freaks the fuck out, restricting you from driving properly because oh no the heckin tire pressure might be out of wackI hate modern cars so fucking much I hate touch screens give me my fucking physical buttons and dials
>>742948909>They lost the ai raceNobody is winning it.
>>742949115The kikes selling the hardware at 400% the normal prices are the ones winning
>>742949024here comes the cope. Said their radars suck, that's why it got destroyed in Iran. But a muttoid jet got shot down by Iran with China's radar, now it's suddenly not China's radar.https://edition.cnn.com/2026/04/03/politics/us-fighter-jet-iran
>>742949156cope muttoid
>>742949179See >>742949193It is just a scam.
>>742949254Stronger than subhuman muttoids. That's for sure.Mutts, with all their impotent rage can't accomplish a single objective in the war with Iran
>>742949219>F-15call me when your chinks can shoot down a 22 or 35
>>742949334See the prices of hardware, we the consumers are losing.
>>742949298That makes mutts even more retarded for losing to Iran, a country sanctioned for over 40 years, not even a superpower nation. Even with the aid of Israel and the gulf states. Mutts still lost Must be humiliating to be a muttoid
>>742934002Outdated e-waste from 2012. They are literally only good for crypto farms and not anything your typical consumer would want to do with them.
Because most people already own one
>>742947523I think so, too. Amd is decent for games that aren't too demanding. Then again, the newest amd might even work on ultra for them.Regarding ai, I must say gen 5 is really convincing. Unfortunately the professional cards are five digits and I'm unsure if I want to invest that much to vibe code few random things.
>>742949452Strait of Hormuz still not open.Regime change non existentCope, mutt
>>742935138No right now they have the best gpus.
>>742949075>they run their shit ragged until it falls apart then get something newYes and that point is only half as long for electric cars. The batteries wear out before everything else.>>742949106>ICE cars are full of overpriced electronic garbage that's all linked together now so one minor fault means you have to spend thousands just to fix itSo are electric cars, but worse, because they have the same current design language plus the problems that only an electric car can have such as batteries being drained to maintain idle temperature. ICE cars don't have fuel tanks that drain themselves when it is cold like electric ones do.
>>742948952Aren't they much cheaper than nvidia? Idk, last time I checked the 7900 something was peak and pricing seemed reasonable, even if slightly overpriced. It's a boom in the industry for more than 10 years straight, so no surprise here.
>>742934223That's not how it works. Countries don't choose who they buy military tech from.
I would only buy a Chinese GPU if nvidia or AMD literally stop producing consumer cards, which is more likely than you think.
>>742949492Not as stupid as 10 IQ muttoids. You guys lost to Iran. Mutts will never be able to live it down
>>742949614For>>742948952>>742949601For gaming?
>>742949614>Aren't they much cheaper than nvidia?After a year or so they'll put them all on sale without officially dropping the price because they know they're not worth the actual MSRP.It happens every generation with almost every card they make.
>>742935404>You don't have a 5080 or a 5090.I have a 5080. If they release a 5090 super and I can actually buy one, I'll buy that next year.
>>742949594More cope from a retarded mutt.Mutts lost the tariff war last yearTrump had to go to China to beg for trade deals. Kek
>>742949610You're focusing purely on the cost of the battery and failing to account for how much you're saving by not having to buy gasoline on the regular.Plug in at night when electricity is dirt cheap and you're saving a significant amount of money over a comparable ICE car (especially now that the mutts chimped out and caused gas prices to spike lmao)
>>742948909Military tech gpu? Isn't that ai?How bad is amd compared to nvidia if they "lost"?>evI kek everitim>>742949023Ev were always goverment driven economy>>742949115TrVth nAke>>742949179>TaiwanFor now, we will see how things end up for them. If china doesn't speed up integration, everyone will laugh at them.
>>742934347Wirks on my machine
>>742934002I want one buy I know the US will slap it full of tariffs. Same with Chinese EVs.
china numbah wan dey wirr give us cheap hardwa- ACKKKKKKKK
>>742934002Because they are shit. Performance can't even rival a mid tier card from 10-15 years ago. Who the fuck is gonna buy a GPU that shit?
It took Intel long enough for 'most' games to function on its drivers, let alone some newer games leainv it until post-launch. I wouldn't trust a Chinese GPU with my fucking life.
>>742937574They actually have a word for people who only buy Chinese stuff in China. I forget the exact word, but it translates into "retard patriot tax".
>>742934347>Yet everyone here owns a AMD CPUFunny, I could've sworn mine had "INTEL® CORE™ i7" stamped on it.
>half the thread was just one retard samefaggingtop kek
>>742947902>Is it really that hard to believe China can do something right?Generally, yes. There's very little they do right as a country without massive oversight by foreign countries and it's usually built on the backs of everyone else's work. The few things they can do good are controllers, cheap mice, cheap keyboards, and their gachas which are typically actual games instead of games that play themselves. Wukong was visually incredible but as a game it did nothing that special and was clearly astroturfed by the Chinese pushing it as some marvel of gaming when it was just average.98% of their games are usually made for their own domestic market and exist to funnel money from bank accounts in perpetuity while being as cheap to make as possible, not to actually be fun. Many of their games also show that their developers do not understand even the basics of video gaming conventions or not making a game feel jank so actually praising a game from them is usually impossible since there's so little to even praise. Not to mention half of the games attributed to them are Taiwanese aka not even China. For every Eastward or Black Myth Wukong there's like 15,000 browser games, Journey to the West games, Romance of the Three Kingdoms games, or other shovelware that they release every few days that no one wants or will have fun with outside of their domestic market.
This Chinamen is really seething people don't want to buy shitty Chinese cards
>>742950275>I want to buy oneWhy would you want to buy an objectively bad product? I think you don't
>>742950606Dude really wants his 50 cents.
I'm just not going to buy the Chinese card. Sorry, you can't make me.
People don't understand how difficult and complicated making graphics cards is. There are hundreds of failure points and even a little bit of corruption (China) or incompetence (America) leads to insane differences in yield and quality.China is doing 20% yield. Taiwan is at 80%. This means Chinese have to use 4 times as many resources and time to get the same amount Taiwanese get which also means the price will also not be effective either.
>>742949679>2.53 MB>>742949747>>742949815>>742949876>>742949936obsessed
>>742951075>The entire world wants to buy American, Korean and European equipment>The poorer half wanted to buy Russian>Only people with no other option want to buy ChineseThat is all the evidence you need.
>>742951075I seriously hope you're getting paid for this, Mohammed.
>>742951075lol. How do they cope?
>Thread about Chinese GPUs turns into Wumaos seething at America Why does this happen literally every time?
The Chinese card is $400The Chinese card uses more electricity than a 5070The Chinese card delivers less FPS than a fucking laptop integrated graphics from a decade agoThat's all that mattersI don't understand how anyone can deflect those simple facts into bitching about the CIA or whateverThe card isn't cheap, isn't efficient, and isn't powerfulSo what the fuck do you get out of it?
chinaxisters i thought we were supposed to get cheap DDR5 RAM to pwn the american market..........
>>742951514The CIA made Chinese cards worse than a base ps4 al algo
>>742951514>The Chinese card uses more electricity than a 5070Impressive.
Chinese cards are as viable as indian cards. Unironically Korea is our best bet as an alternative to TSMC/Nvidia.
>>742951565>>742951514Thanks you based Xi. I will build an entire computer using only Chinese sourced parts as a true Chinese patriot. I wont use evil Taiwanese graphics cards, mother boards, CPUs or Ram. I will only play Genshin at 5 fps.
Wait a second. If Taiwan is a part of China....... then why is China trying to make their own worse graphics cards when Taiwan already produces 99% of the worlds graphics card supply?
>>742950587Common boomer mistake, it actually says Ryzen 7
>autosagedlolsee you later wumaos>>742951851speaking of chinese gameschinese gacha numbah wan dey make more moneys than westerr and japanee bideo gaems and wirr dominate ga->CCP steps in and rapes your game at any momentACK ACK ACKKKKKKKK
>make china seethe thread>it gets autosaged>heh, got you chudslol
>>742951730I think you're right, that South Korea is the only other place with the kind of nanometer-scale engineering expertise to do itBut their focus is on RAM and storage, which is more profitable than ever, so even if they spent years and billions of dollars to make a legitimate competitor to AMD/Nvidia, it'd cost the same anyway
>>742952324Damn, even HWiNFO got it wrong. Those pesky Jews.
>>742952440Sorry, i'm just not buying the Chinese GPU
>>742949850No, I'm counting on the average retard to not save any of the money that they are not spending on gasoline. Consumer market penetration is determined by the average person, and the average person is not going to put $0.50 a day into a savings account so that they can drop $20,000 on a new battery in ten to fifteen years. They're going to bitch that they have to buy a new car to replace the car they thought was going to save them money and last forever.
>>742934002Ccp shills spam genshin mihomo threads for over five years yet tranny jannies do nothing
