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Endless Ragnarok is finally out!

Thoughts on the new characters? Beatrix is fun, but holy fuck is it annoying how bosses go crazy when I do my install
Cutest girl?
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>>742935751
there's only one girl in the game!
I like playing Eustace, and a Mag on the team makes things a little comfier.
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>multiplayer is still insufferable and nearly non-existent unless you're already in the endgame
>"quick quest" mechanic doesn't help at all
>matchmaking still prevents you from doing anything for 2+ minutes until it decides there's no point in trying to search anymore
yikes
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>>742935751
spin2win gods how we feeling?
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>>742935751
Is this a yuri game?
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>>742935751
Glad I don't have to buy the upgrade yet.
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>Get tp the chaos+ primals
>it's right back into infinite super armor one hit kill moves that never fucking end
I think i'm done. They made it even worse than before.
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>>742936295
He's surprisingly simple, but fun like with Beatrix. I haven't gotten the level 2 or higher master traits, but the ones that buff his Turbine moves seem fun.
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I boughted for booby beatrix
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>>742935751
I still have to wait one day more.
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>conflux is a BLATANT ripoff of hollow void from ZZZ
never realized how similar ZZZ and relink are. Both are character-action adjacent with an anime aesthetic, but surprisingly ZZZ has much higher visual fidelity on the character models. Both are decent when it comes to animations, but ZZZ has a bit more attention to detail (walk/idle animations). Even the simple scene transition when you take the warp to the next zone in conflux/hollow void has more effort put into it in ZZZ. Shame that even "traditional" AAA games fall short in some aspects to a gacha.
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do I have to do the conflux quest to unlock endless ragnarok?
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>>742936196
>prevents you from doing anything for 2+ minutes
what would you be doing instead?
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>>742935751
Why do most doujin featuring Zeta involves cucking Beatrix? It's mean...
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i just picked some fresh dorks to level with the roguelite stuff before i jump into the fatebreaker stuff.

>>742936901
yeah, it feels a bit bad have to do 3 runs of very low power requirement shit to then get overwhelmed with a 23k power fight to unlock fatebreaker.
i guess it feels a bit more natural when you do a a new playthrough now and slowly getting the first 3 levels of conflux feels more natural?
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>>742937020
cancelling the matchmaking because it's obvious there aren't enough players for what I'm trying to queue/host. Somehow shit like monster hunter and PSO have existed for 20+ years and STILL there are japanese developers who make games in the same genre and can't figure out how to do proper matchmaking, despite having the example of their forebears for decades.
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Is Io still Stargaze 5 gambling simulator?
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>just unlocked proud difficulty
>have to go through every fucking boss AGAIN
>each difficulty requires a deeper grind just to get back on equal footing
how the fuck do they release what is essentially a g-rank style expansion for this game and DON'T have any catchup mechanics? Even summons and specializations are locked behind being above the base game's content, for fucks sake
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>>742937559
You can run rank 3 Essence, Rank 2 crux for a skill Io instead if you'd like.
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>>742937604
Has conflux unlocked itself?
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What's the fastest way to hit level 100? Is it still spamming the "Assault Formation" quest?
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>>742935751
use the defense mode it gives you stout heart and lets you just tank through shit
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Which of the new weapon uncaps is good? I want to be done with Terminus.
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>>742937169
Who is this mysterious woman?
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Any webms of the new characters? I heard Fraux is really cool.
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ACKlink flopped
Maleringers lost
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>>742937838
yeah I have rank 3 conflux, which I've done a few times but its clear I'm already way above it in terms of appropriate rewards. Currently it's only giving up to maniac difficulty rewards, which is below what I'm starting to need to upgrade things. It's also far below my plvl, 7k vs 20k. I know rank 4 and 5 conflux are ER exclusive, so again, retarded expansion design.
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>>742936853
idk how to tell you this anon but every single one of these roguelite minigames is unoriginal
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>>742937169
>Summons The Devil.
The fuck? I thought Lucifer was a good guy in this universe?
Who the fuck is The Devil?
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>>742935751
I know that girl, is the one that got pregnant by bunch midget ain't it?
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>>742938019
never said it wasn't, I'm sure ZZZ ripped it off from somewhere else. Not sure what the original concept is from, but my point is that it's a bit odd that ZZZ still put more effort into the games production value compared to relink. Granted, technically relink is a PS4 game, but conflux is new, they could have prettied it up A LITTLE bit, it almost looks like the portal is paralaxing.
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>>742938045
It's named after the arcana and not THAT devil.
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>>742936853
Relink should have been a live service game like ZZZ anyways.
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I need more HP, more. I can face tank chaos and chaos+ but not chaos++, one of Super Id's special attacks actually killed enough NPCs to down me through substitute. Actually I could hit 500K already if i max out aegis and greater aegis but it felt a waste of a slot. Granted I probably should just get damage cap but celestial terra cuts me down to 300K so I'm stuck with the not stamina one for now
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>>742937876
slimeblasting
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>>742938334
Oh, right she's a fortune teller.
Granblue is all over the place with this stuff.
Apparently the Bahamut is the actual creator god and there are actual angels plus outer gods and stuff.
Is it the curse of the setting outliving its intended purpose or was it always designed to be that fucking crazy?
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>>742938202
slay the spire popularized the pick 3 roguelike formula, although i'm sure there are more obscure examples from earlier
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What’s the best weapon for Siete?
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>>742938527
I'm mainly talking about the visual design of the roguelite, spawn into small arena, kill shit, nebulous portals appear at the end of the arena, camera zooms into the portal as you load the next zone, rinse repeat. idk if ZZZ is original in that context, obviously the overall mechanic has been ubiquitous for probably over a decade at this point, but ZZZ's hollow void and relinks conflux are strikingly similar, visually speaking. again, no idea if there is an older one that both are copying, or if ZZZ was first, but since nothing in ZZZ is original I doubt that.
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>>742938384
Danchou is kind of silly when you build him like that desu.
I had a run with Id/Danchou/Sandy/Me online against Pyet and the three of them just sat at the bosses legs the entire fight.
Was fun
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>>742938648
it's just a gacha trend, there were gachas doing it before zzz and gbf is still gacha slop at the end of the day so it stands to reason they just copied some gacha shit
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Conflux is basically a ripoff of Oregon Trail
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>>742938384
Get drain, pairs well with stronghold
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So what does the difficulty setting at the start change? Just the difficulty of story content?
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So what's the best way to play Charlotta now? since spinning is dead
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>>742938340
Awful take tbdesu.
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where the fuck them lil darkies at? surely somebody must already have a map up showing where they all are.
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>full auto assist can now be used in all difficulty modes

why shouldn't i be using this?!
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>>742937169
UOOOOOHHHH SEX
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Why are all the girls in this game dykeshit or cuckshit?
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>>742938202
you're comparing a game that started development in like 2016 (Relink) to a brand new state-of-the-art gacha game from 2024 (ZZZ)... be so fr...
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>>742939268
Something about 'tough girl' automatically means lesbian to a lot of random yuritards. Plus there's a fuckload of characters already, it shouldn't be a surprise a few are like that to appease all audiences.
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>>742938676
Yeah after finally breaking free from terminus weapons its honestly a pretty relaxing way to play, kind of maybe less good with the AI though, usually these dudes are gods at dodging so I have trouble stacking charisma. Just unlocked Chaos++ and level 30 master talents so I'm still limit testing, survivability when I'm not intentionally playing like a gorilla is fine so dmg caps are my main concern.

>>742938856
Already got drain, its pretty good. Even without stronghold I'm able to straight up trade and heal back to full against non-bloodthirsty enemies.
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>about to head to work
>around 12 hours until I come back home
I WANT TO PLAY AAAAAAAAAA
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Man that crab fight was fun
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How long does it take to get to the DLC content? I only have the hard mode or whatever unlocked.
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PS5 bros’s how the performance? I saw you can now tweak stuff
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>>742938963
the plunge replaced the spin
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>>742939784
Solid 60 FPS, haven't seen any significant drops even during the biggest shitshows with SFX vomit all over the arena
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I'm having a ton of fun with Fediel even though she requires like two button presses to do stuff when most people need one. Other than that she's cute and I love her. Thanks for listening.
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So are there just an unlimited amount of character cards now? Just asking so I don't fuck myself over buying Fraux early since she costs 2
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>>742939593
damn, anon. i'm sorry you've got such a long shift ahead of you, but kudos to you for even having a job. i'm American and i've been looking for employment for like a year and a half.
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>>742935751
Have they removed the spats censorship?
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where are the eustace players? is he worth investing into? charging feels so awkward
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>>742938340
Mental illness
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>>742939884
Conflux quests, Siero shop, and then I think you can get them from conflux itself, or some of the fatebreaker tier quests. I was going to wait to buy Fraux and Fediel but I didn't.
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>decide to do the Chaos unlock fight with my 18k, 50-80k HP NPC buddies to learn the fight and not be a drag in multiplayer
>takes like 20 minutes but with healing and autorevive/guts/potion hoarder it's not that bad
>get some Chaos gear to help others with the fight
>mfw two 15k HP Io's both get oneshot during the first Overdrive
Some things never change
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Lol I wonder what cygames reaction is seeing the game alive like this mogging mh wilds
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>>742939724
you've got about 10-20 hours of tedious grinding and running the same bosses several times over with increasingly more tedious mechanics and bloated healthpools ahead of you.
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>>742939812
nyo.... spinning is way more fun...
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>>742939962
>hybrid of eugen and rackam
personally I'd just stick with one of those 2
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>>742939912
Of course not, now eat the slop like a good little goyim
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>>742940150
It drops insanely fast. Launch felt alive for about 2 weeks before it started to be a trickle. I played exclusively MP through everything I could at launch, and by a month in I was lucky to get anything but proto bahamut runs after minutes of waiting
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>>742940150
The question is can we breach 100k by the weekend when all the wagies get on?
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I WANT TO BE CRUSHED BY BOSS MAGLIELLE
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>>742940150
Chinese market accounts for 80% of those numbers, what a sloppa
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>>742939962
Crux 3
Insight 2
play with fire/acidrage/fast lane
you don't need to charge all that much with those and his warpath, and one of his sigils speeds that up anyway.
Build him like Io
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>>742940519
>giant midget
isn’t that a bit pointless?
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>>742940203
it does like double the damage of the spin now, i have no idea what they did to it
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>>742939858
Have you gotten far into it? The new siete and song fight had so many particle effects going off i thought that would for sure tank the FPS. It seems like the World fight did that in previews too.

That’s reassuring, anyways
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Thank god ER got some new players as well. I finally managed to S++ this fucking mission
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I have not cleared this fight with pubs in more than 10 attempts.
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>>742940719
>world
nta but I didn't get any drops from that fight.
It's been surprisingly smooth
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huh, so you can get terminus weapons at the start of proud now instead of near the end?
Since versa drops ultimate memory too. though i assume at a lot lower rate than proto baha.
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>>742939962
I haven't played him much, but as a bot it seems like he needs Provoke which is funny for a ranged character.
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>>742940583
>Build him like Io
i havent played Io...
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>>742940793
>link time FIVE (5) times
>clear within 13 minutes
as a noob who is nowhere near ER content, I don't know how to take this. How "fast" is 13 minutes for this content? I feel lucky if the team gets link time ONCE, unless its angra mainyu or versa and then its twice or MAYBE three times. but 5? jesus.
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Its like one piece but with hotter women, except the trade-off is that the writing is even worse.
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>>742940150
73k of that is chinks
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>>742936853
Yeah the animation really reminds me of ZZZ's Hollow Zero stage transition as well.
https://youtu.be/VR4SpW74Fmo?si=ZSAPLfPWn9s6-3_m&t=1021
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>>742937169
Lesbian....
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>>742938873
Just start on hard (it's still easy mode) so you don't have to do redo the story mode on hard later if you care about 100% the game.
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>>742941360
i fucking wish
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>>742935751
This is an annoyance I'm noticing too. Whenever I'm in the midst of Devour mode, the boss decides it's gonna spaz out kek
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Tweyen hits too hard now. Fuck shes stealing all MvPs
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Reminder that Fraux is a bisexual, she gets fucked by many guys everyday especially that butcher draph in her town
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>>742940150
holy smokes we are fucking back. holy kino.
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Dumb question, but if i dont buy the expansion, do any of the balance changes and QOL still take effect in the base game? i've had the game in my backlog for a long ass time and am just now playing it deciding on whether or not to buy the expansion
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Playing Beatrix and I feel like I'm having a hard time keeping up with everyone else in the SBA gauge. Do I just suck?
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>>742941513
How do honors/MVP even work in this game? I thought it was wonky and you get inflated honors if you healed or did other weird stuff.
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>>742940150
the weekend will hit like 130k players or more
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>>742937169
>>742941360
built for her futa gf!
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>reading guide on character pros/cons
>tweyen
>"good except on bosses immune to her DOTs
which bosses are those?
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>>742941614
All the balance changes are base game, yeah.
You'll be missing the new Mastery trait levels/transcendence
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>>742941513
SHE NEEDS IT
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>playing online
>2/4 players have 100% SBA
>other 2/4 are ~50%
>1 player launches their SBA
all they had to do was fucking wait half a minute, but instead they had to be a selfish retard and permanently ruin the parties SBAs for the rest of the run.
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We respect Silva and Rios around here
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>>742941631
>>742941513
Song is liable to get MVPs because debuffs inflate your score a lot. And if she has that skill that inflicts 5 debuffs, well she gains a ton of points.
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>>742939912
someone has an IO mod that removed them, dunno if the reload manager still works with the dlc though.
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>>742941105
It's 9 bosses strung together. 5 link times is a little hard especially if you're strong, 13 minutes is about right for the PWR asked by the quest. This was just one of the little presents the left in the last update of base Relink for people looking for a challenge.
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Do one of the later gate floors drop the item for unlocking Terminus or do I really have to go to the Bahamut mines again?
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>UI settings
>Its either all or nothing
am i not able to at least remove the button notations from my HUD?
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Is the AI reliable enough to do the endgame content in this game?
This obviously assumes they are fitted with the appropriate gear and setups
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>>742941513
She still does no damage. She's basically cheating honors by applying debuffs constantly/
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>can't change controller glyphs unless you quit out to the main menu
>any other game and it's just a simple toggle that doesn't require a full fucking reload of the entire game
how much spaghetti code is holding this shit together ffs
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Man, I should have reinstalled the game sometime last week I'm so rusty and am getting filtered by Proud difficulty quests
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>>742941826
2 chains x 2 are better than 4 chains.
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>>742942095
with utterly autismo geared party members, they can completely carry you. have fun spending thr 40-50 hours it takes to reach that level. or just cheat on PC
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>>742942095
They are a little finicky in fights where they want you to split up and do mechanics like man the cannons on the ship in Proto Bahamut, but in straight up brawls, they go toe-to-toe or exceed the average player in dishing out damage (depends on the character, some characters have retarded AIs) and especially staying alive because they will perfectly dodge almost anything.
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Imagine getting filtered by Proud difficulty
not even chaos lmao
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>>742942136
Now go look at the graphical options
close to nothing you can change
Game is a joke on pc
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>>742938340
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Ferry bros is she good? What's the strat now?
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>>742941826
you're not supposed to do full bursts unless the boss calls for it
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>>742941676
Lucilius is immune to almost all debuffs. Light and Dark dragons put anti debuff barriers on themselves that need to be dispelled first
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>>742941878
I am going to make all dykes straight with my COCK
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>>742940150
>not even weekend yet
STOP THE FUCKING COUNT AAAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEE
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>>742942507
thats it? 3 whole bosses in the entire game?
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>>742938004
Theres literally a "pick this for good proud mode sigils" reward option retard
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>>742942179
>>742942425
this is not the base game, yet, people are not in Endgame gear yet so SBA stunlocking is, for now, not worth it over Primal Burst and 100% Link Time
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>>742938340
genuinely kill yourself if this isn't bait. you are a blight on society
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I used to try to dodge everything but lately it feels like perfect blocking is easier.
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>>742942650
i'm just upset that I STILL don't have volcan bolla nihilla unlocked yet, need his core to craft one of fraux's weapons, and conflux wepaon upgrade boosters don't have that item, at least from the 2 I've done so far.
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>>742942731
perfect blocking is way stricter than perfect dodge though
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>>742941878
Based
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Wait, i cant take backup characters to the conflux? well that sucks
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>>742942812
the terminus awakening pack has it. though maybe it doesn't unless you actually unlock the fight?
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>>742943318
at conflux 3, with proud mode freshly unlocked (JUST unlocked it, haven't done any quests in it yet), I'm not seeing that as an option. I get weapon upgrade pack 5 and 6, proud mode sigils, copper upgrade pack, and some other sigil nonsense.
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My tip once you reach Chaos difficulty is to use a 150 Defender weapon, slap on some Autorevive/Guts/Potion Hoarder and just learn the fights. Once you transcend your defender to level 1 slap on a Greater Aegis and you'll have close to 200k HP. Minmaxing damage comes later
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>>742936853
brother that's pretty much every single rogue like in the market, the difference is both games also copied monster hunter
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>>742943318
>>742943504
really annoying the rest of the materials for this are so much lower rank than that fucking core
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so who are ragnarok's new characters ?
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>>742935751
As a single player person, does the dlc offer me enough story content to keep playing?
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>>742943504
so do you just not see some options yet? because these are the bundles i can choose from cycle 3.
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>>742944167
I see everything except ascension and terminus awakening, both of those are blank.
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>>742941105
I feel like you need to specifically build for that, with extra stun to trigger links faster and Linked Together to get bonus link percent
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Gallanza is the only good new character and he's just a much slower Charlotta

>Maglielle
Shit damage
>Beatrix
Mediocre, but better than the rest of the trash
>Eustace
Numerous problems. Shit damage, meter takes way too long to build, heavy ammo only lasts for one mag, no gadgets, few lightning moves if any ON A WEAPON THAT SHOOTS LIGHTNING AND NOT FUCKING BULLETS HOW DO YOU MESS UP THIS BAD. Needed beta testing far more than Beatrix
>Fraux
Overly complex for nothing in return. Stance is clunky to use. Damage is okay. Tutorial omits one of her key mechanics entirely
>Fediel
Cucked by damage cap. More or less unplayable until the very end of the game
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>>742943953
bea
eustace
gallanza
magliel
fraux
fediel

and maybe you can cope we get another secret one later
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>it's playing the fighting game music
lmao
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>>742944438
>fraux, tutorial omits key mechanic
do you mean input delay to get her stanceswap to pop up?
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I believe in more DLC characters and expansions
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>>742944438
Yeah and Rackam is the very best character everyone should build Rackam
>day 1 takes again
they never learn.
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holy fuck man i need to step it up
Io is fucking crazy or shes cheating
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>>742944132
fewer story cutscenes in expansion, if that is what you are asking
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>>742944613
a good Io is a fucking menace
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>>742944564
Charlotta being top tier stuck though. In fact, she was even more broken than we thought.

We were also right about Percival, but he was nerfed by a bugfix
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>>742944613
Chinese Io are always cheating, and if you open all regions there's gonna be one every time.
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I AM GETTING KEKED
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>Narmaya has a mastery to let her just spam attacks in blue stance, never stance switching
damn they made her really easy to play
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Honestly surprised by the Switch 2 port. Cygames did some really good work here.
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>>742944563
they confirmed skins are coming. No way they're just going to drop skins and no contents right?
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>>742944738
now that you say it, it was indeed a moonrunes name Io
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>>742936295
He seems dumb fun from what little I got to mess eith him.
>>742935751
Bea and Eustace just exist
Gallanza feels great
Mag seems like a lot of fun, dunno if i mesh with her playstyle though
The other two don't seem suited for me.
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>>742944563
>more expansions
I think the issue with that is file size is getting pretty bloated as is. If they do another 30gb expansion I hope they at least look into compressing everything first, otherwise that’s gonna suck especially for consolebros.
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Do I still use Alpha or has it been outclassed by something else?
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>>742944312
I did all the objectives exactly just ONCE with my AI partners, getting 5 link times is really hard to do.
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So is there anything I'll just be outright unable to do solo?
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>>742945253
yeah you can't play multiplayer solo
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>>742943665
but defender comes with built in greater aegis for me, really high lvl too so slotting it in a sigil is a waste, I slot in regular aegis instead
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Man I love playing Cag with her Collapse skillspam playstyle, but she's really good as an AI support it's hard to give her up.
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Did Seofon get any big changes?
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>>742945591
Bring a support Cog
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>>742945687
Doesn't work in Conflux sadly.
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>>742944438
>>Maglielle
>Shit damage
yeah, but i get to throw a bunch of swords around.
Do i really just hold Y in link time since she gets unlimited meter?
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Fediel or Fraux? Metawise.
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>>742944613
i'm hitting for 10m per stargaze V and i haven't even unlocked chaos++
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Okay considering single player content (that new roguelike mode) is actually something you spend a decent amount of time in, I really need to improve my CPU allies.

I have two core questions involving that if anyone wants to provide advice
>who ARE the best CPUs? Cag? I know zeta used to be the god CPU but got nerfed

>what is the fastest way to farm up a cpu character to be passably strong? Obviously not going to devote the same time as my main character
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What the fuck is that felfrost quest? The aoe just kills everyone. And then he does it again.
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>>742936853
>>742938340

I wonder why you always try to sneak in literal shit as a bait, That's not even a good way to shill your shit or ragebait, at the end you just look like a retard
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>>742945996
Cag, Yoda, Flex slot
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I don't get it, I thought we could only focus on one mastery tree but I'm M.Rank 10 on 2 characters now and I get all passives from the 3 trees?
I need more MSPs.
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>>742945996
Siegfried is insane as a CPU especially with his Warpath. His masteries take him even further.
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>>742945892
We don't know

It'll be a week or two before people settle on who's good or bad

Just play whoever you like more it doesn't matter once you get to Transcending your weapons. Both seem to require half a brain to play optimally though, they're not pure unga bunga like Bea
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when am I gonna get enough mst to give my AI members a bit of mastery trait love
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>>742946185
I don't think you have everything unlocked yet.
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>>742946185
Need to focus on one to get the full style passives
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>>742945892
I don't think anyone even knows what the optimal way to play Fraux is. Maybe some insane chink on Bilibili already has dummy showcases but I don't have an account there.
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>>742946223
Use your Ambrosia bro
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>>742946294
i thought ambrosia was exp? how much does each give?
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>>742946190
It’s too bad I didn’t really gel with the way he plays since he seems cool. I’ll consider making him a buffslave though.
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I WANT TO PLAY BUT I CAN'T UNTIL THE WEEKEND! AHHHHH!!!!
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>>742944785
MOMMY
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>>742938340
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>>742946387
He does good damage too, you don't have to go full support on him although his drain + debuff immune buff can be very nice in some fights.
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>still overpowered
Io
Charlotta

>better now
Cag
Eugene
Rosetta
Seig (CPU)

>pretty much the same (fine)
Narmaya
Yoda

>worse now
Vaseraga
Zeta (both cpu and player)
Seig (player controlled)
vane

>still shit
Gran
Tweyen
Ferry
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>>742946431
You and the rest of us wagies. At least the neets will theorycraft everything for us by the time we play.
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>>742946386
A lot

Best way to spend your gold tickets too
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>>742946431
>took 2 days off to play it
>get sick and can only play for a few hours until I have to crawl back in bed
At least I managed to beat Sorn and Siete in 1 attempt.
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>>742945892
From a metagaming standpoint, you have no business picking either, or any of the new characters. Honestly, ER feels even more lopsided towards the top three (Charlotta/Sandalphon/Io) with very little reason to pick anyone else. The only character who received anything more than a slap on the wrist was Zeta, and only because her CPU was good. Cygames told her players to go fuck themselves and pick a top tier. If you pick Ghandagoza, then you probably have cheat engine running with a chinese flag hung up on your wall.
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>>742946550
>>742946704
what nerfs did Zeta get?
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My team is more or less full base game build. What's the best way to transition from base game into DLC without making it trivialized? So far everything I've done (which isn't much to be fair, only up to conflux 3) has been a joke and dies literally in seconds.
Does it get difficult enough early on to where I'm not just facerolling or should I unequip some sigils so there's some challenge?
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>>742946172
I feel like Yoda CPU is overrated

Yes the buff is nice but THE CPU completely fails to perform his kit properly and does no damage
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>>742946695
Ironically i am sick too but not enough to stop working (I work from home).
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>>742945892
Unfortunately the big option is that ALL of the dlc characters are weak.

Also weirdly slow.
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try to do daily and can't find a match, I haven't done true online (except with friends) in forever
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>>742946770
they made her loop slower to match the player, if you recall the cpu would do insanely fast pogo jumps
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>>742945970
Can't wait to get there, only just started the DLC
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>>742945892
why even play for meta?
the game isn't so difficult that you need to minmax that hard. Just play who you like
I used fucking rosetta in base relink and beat everything and she was easily the worst character
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The game should force people to have guts and auto revive far too many shitters have neither and instantly fucking die
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>>742946704
>Ghandagoza
Elaborate what you mean
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>>742938340
the most raped kikeslave ever
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Fediel choccy milk
That is all
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>>742946550
>Tweyen
what makes her a bad CPU?
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>>742946938
I didn’t expect her to be so cute.
I don’t play the mobage and with no context thought she would be an edgelord.
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>>742946776
Have fun with the bosses after the Chaos difficulty unlock, they hit exactly for 45k to fuck over Terminus spergs lol
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>>742946996
she doesn't even do her character gimmick correctly. you will never see her activating dark huntress' volley because the cpu will never fully charge multilock hail
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>>742936853
Mmm actually the director specifically mentioned HSR Simulated Universe, in fact ZZZ Hollow mode is basically just SU.
Also I'd rather play 200 hours of GBF Relink and not pay nickle and dime for every character
>Bros gallanza is so cool...
>Realise I can only pull Gallanza or Maglielle
>Pick Maglielle
>I can never play Gallanza
:|
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I liked the game but i only finished the story, is the expansion worth getting?
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The rogue-lite pick-from-three portals suits the way most missions are structured better than the quest counter.
Quest counters works in MonHun and PSO because every mission and investigation is an expedition that could last more than 10 minutes in a map with multiple zones that is larger than the town you're loading in from.
Most Relink missions are small arenas, and they're cleared pretty quickly outside of the endgame bosses, so you end up spending more time hitting menu confirmations before and after clearing the mission than playing the game.
I just think it's pretty fun to have like 10 of these arenas strung together without all the bullshit in between, it's still annoying that new players have to go through the checklist of clearing maniac and proud difficulty missions one by one when it's clearly possible that you could play through the entire playlist without returning to town at all.
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>>742947021
She looks like a demon lord
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Who is more fun...Bea or Fraux?
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>>742946550
>Ghanda not listed
accurate, i threw him to the garbage after the changes. Ill try him again later when i amass enough spare materials to max him and other characters but the changes they made to him kinda ruined him for me.
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>>742946921
Most difficult character to play optimally. Id is a bit harder in practice due to the inconsistency of his dragon form, but cheating with Id would be blatantly obvious to everyone else.
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>>742947202
Io is cute and funny
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>>742946861
i didnt really notice too much of a difference when playing her. CPU Zeta might be worse yeah but human controlled Zeta doesnt feel meaningfully weaker to me
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>>742946776
>Does it get difficult enough early
yes, you literally just finished the tutorial, next will be more challenging
conflux 4 has like 22k recommended
same with chaos
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>>742947231
io more like cheato
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>>742947234
yeah, people are specifically talking about nerfs to cpu zeta which they targeted because people were using (abusing?) her a lot
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>>742946185
You can unlock all the perks from rank 1 mastery tree but you can only pick one from rank 2 and beyond
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>>742947117
I would say go play the vanilla endgame stuff now and see if you enjoy it enough to keep going.
You have to do start the expansion content anyway unless you just really want to play the new characters ASAP
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Why does nearly every character play the exact goddamn same. You just fill a bar and thing happens.
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>>742947437
do it to start*
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>>742947117
Go through the post game (Episode 0) and see if you like the grind-boss loop and characters, ER is literally just like the base game but MORE.
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>>742938963
build?
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>>742947075
ohhh damn that's crazy. i liked the idea of having a huntress on my team doing hails of arrows.
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How many "Refined lady with rapier and ice powers" characters exist? Because I can't keep thinking about Persona's Mitsuru every time Katalina is on the screen. There's got to be others.
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>Dat bubz fight
>The tension
>The ost change
>The last stand

HOLY FUCKING KINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
All the DLC was worth it just for that fight alone
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>>742947809
does he use the normal version of Existence or does he get a remix
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>>742947872
I think it's the versus rising version
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>>742946550
Vaseraga is overpowered now too. It's almost like cheating, and fuck everyone who plays this homo.
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>>742943674
>monster hunter
In what way did ZZZ copy MH?
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>>742947445
but enough about diablo 4
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>>742947872
New king mix.
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>>742946514
Golem
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>all the cag mods are gone
wtf happened? where did they go?
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>>742947809
Conflux version or quest counter?
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how to get more knickknack vouchers for transmarvel
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>unlock all function for offense and defense masteries
Thank god.
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gg no re
quest version bubs is the best fight
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>>742948224
recycle your shitty sigils and wrightstones
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>>742948004
is it OP if everyone is OP? we haven't even reached endgame meta yet
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>>742948224
Recycle and some quests.
Recycling is the big source
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So I can just download the game now and play as the thick brown titty semen demon?
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>>742948304
Everyone isnt op though

A lot of characters suck, also all of the dlc characters suck
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>>742948304
most characters are just ok or bad
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as someone that barely did the post game for release relink, is the expansion worth it or should I just ignore it until its on a sale?
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>>742948337
I think you need 2 tickets for her so not right away but shouldn't take too long.
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>>742948502
There's some story and the new characters are fun but if you didn't enjoy the grind autism of Vanilla relink's endgame you're not gonna like it in Ragnarok
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>>742948683
Fantastic. Picked the fuck up!
I was worried she would be end game only. I never played the game before so I don't mind playing a bit with everyone else.
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How is Djeeta after her buffs?
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Why are all of the dlc characters so fucking SLOW?

Do they not realize the endgame combat in this is spazzy twitchy one shit machines?

You dont have time to slowly belt out a 30 second FFXIV rotation
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Thank god for Conflux so it's much easier to get character up to your main power level when gearing up the CPU.

Are Lucilius Sigils still being used on DLC. i really don't fucking want to farm him.
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>>742949002
fraux is fast as fuck nigga what you talking about
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>>742948897
yeah thats what I figured, it just wasn't very fun, at least better than the gacha but guess I'll get it on a sale then
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My Eustace just equipped a bunch of skills on his own with points he doesn't have.
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holy shit
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>>742949105
spoiler it nigga
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>>742949021
The fuck are you on about? Fraux's X attacks and delay Ys make her slow as dirt
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They really want me to replay the story mode again for these crab cunts, huh?
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>>742949105
BUBZ-SAMA..!
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>Still can't find any Jewtuber or Streamer playing Ferry or Rosetta so i can check their numbers without me having to invest in them

Fuck man i don't want to have to do it myself

>>742949105
Game's been released for a day bro. Put your stuff on spoilers.
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>>742949275
Ok, which characters are you comparing them with? just lancelot? like who?
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>>742949016
>Are Lucilius Sigils still being used on DLC
They're very optional, I still use a pair to help boost my cap since I'm still on Stinger weapon and not done transcending my Ascension.
I wouldn't worry about it, just charge ahead into dlc content.
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why are there runes for everything except attack speed? ;-;
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>>742949105
>robust orbs
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>>742949409
Lancelot is slow. He takes too long to get going.
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>>742949295
UOH Lyria
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>>742942407
Seconding this.
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Should i farm Bahamut for terminus while also getting familiarized with the game again?
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>>742949442
because aspd would be mandatory on every single build which would lock 1-2 sigil slots permanently on every single one of your characters
so theres no point in having it

aspd is a straight up dps gain that doesnt care about damage cap so its bad design to mess with it
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>>742949409
nta but charlotta ungabunga is pretty fast. io is also surprisingly easy to react with because she spends most of her time doing nothing waiting for a bar to fill and the progress is saved even when you dodge. cag collapse combos are also very fast and you can react to anything at a moment's notice
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>>742949105
Randoms can't deal with orbs as it is though...
It's TWO colours
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>>742949606
do conflux instead
bahamut has too much downtime
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>>742949056
he built different
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>>742949660
how are blonde lolis so powerful?
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Is there a chaos rank Lucilius? How many bosses have chaos rank versions?
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>no Anila
bummer
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>>742949862
all of them, pyet-a, versa, luci, every single one has a uber buffed chaos version with new moves
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>>742949978
Better start praying for a Japanese themed Relink sequel for them to make it into the roster.
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Who is the most popular new character online that you guys have seen?
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>>742949409
i think the main problem is that there are characters who either don't lose much by dropping a combo or have very lenient/short combos. sometimes they are both (like braindead charlotta xyy mashing). then you have fraux and siegfried who have combos with precise timing and are backloaded so you lose a lot of damage by dropping them. those don't play very well with bosses who move and attack very quickly
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>>742950130
The little sword lady. She's everywhere and they always suck ass
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>>742949660
How do you collapse combowith cag? Just spam the shortest one and then chain it with charged collapse?
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>>742950057
>titty sheep is too nipponese for relink
>but the draph who uses a katana isn’t
what a bullshit excuse
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>got a crewmate card inside a treasure room in the conflux shit
huh
i know i am sitting on 2 sidequests related to conflux that also give me one each. wonder where the last one is.
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>>742946550
>Vane
>Worse now
You're high as a fucking kite, faggot.
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>>742938963
More anger
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>>742950184
Which one?
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>no zodiacs
>no blueberries
>feidel looks insanely boring to play
>added eustace because ???
I would love to know their decision making process for who to include in this expansion, because it seems fucking retarded
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>>742950228
I mean, hes still got the shield...
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>>742950191
i like xyy yeah although i haven't tested it in depth. i think xxyy is actually better on big guys. they have actually changed the damage caps of everything on everyone across the board but they didn't mention any of that in the patch notes. i've seen in one of the relink meta discords that ferry had almost all her damage caps changed, although for the better or worse they didn't say. so what you knew were good combos in base relink might actually be terrible in er
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>>742950057
If they make skins for her in versus I will buy several of them
>>742950205
Narmaya is way more popular than sheep sadly
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>>742941513
Capelets will be mogged out of the party screen
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>>742950281
And better damage caps
And the ability to build properly tanky
And the ability to share his buffs
And his own buffs stacking
Etc

The only thing he lost was his cooldown sigil doesn't work with supp damage anymore.
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>>742949308
>streamers and content creators
>ever playing SOVL characters
lol
lmao even
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how is the matchmaking still so fucked? quick quest taking 5+ minutes and then kicking me out because it couldnt find anyone, what the fuck
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>>742950549
Do you have the region set to undefined/any?
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>>742950578
I have it set to any in both online settings and when you start the quest, it takes way too many attempts to actually start a quest (wanted to screenshot but im softlocked here because the cancel button doesnt even work what in the fuck)
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>>742950130
Siegfried is one of the most common for me, but now that more people have access to her I am seeing so many Tweyen. I guess because she is an entire character archetype on her own, no other archers in the game.
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>>742950549
same here endgame chaos++ is dead since everyone is still stuck on chaos
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>>742950549
prease understand, smarr indie company, no money, never made onrine game befowe. the truth is that multiplayer was always an afterthought, evidenced by conflux being single player onry despite the feature that would breath the most life into multiplayer.
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>I hate how every character has to fill a bar
Charlotta

>this game is too oneshotty endgame
Charlotta

>too many characters are way too slow
Charlotta

>enemies run away from melee way too much how do I keep up
Charlotta

How is she so perfect bros?
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Which weapon? The link one seems kind of meh, but all the others seem decent.
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Do Chaos and Chaos+ quests become trivial once you reach the new endgame?
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>>742950271
Magiliele or something.

>>742950184
I've been in quests befoer where i was the only one not her so yeah i can see why you are saying that
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Just got to chaos+ and everything has so much damn health for me and my AI, probably because I swapped off midget spinner and started playing titty dragon
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>hid a black crab on the fucking windmill blades and you have to stand on a specific spot to get it
I can already feel how annoying this shit is going to be
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>>742950271
You made me look her up, magliele

She's super popular and everyone who uses her suck dick

If you get two maglieles in a party and its a difficult quest you might as well leave
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do I still have to do bahamut to get terminus weapons for the DLC characters
is it even worth getting terminus weapons? people seem to be saying they suck now because they cap your health too low
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>>742951042
terminus get a transcendence in the end and it's just better than all the other ones
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>>742951042
They get ascensions later on, even if they didn't you still need the masteries they give to access weapon transcension.
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>>742951042
you can get items that craft them, but they aren't worth ascending for now since you can't transcend them right away, get them to 150 for the mastery completion nodes though
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>>742950742
how about i hate how this character is so braindead and overpowered
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>>742950816
>midget spinner
who?
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>>742935751
>It's another damage cap sloppa
Into the trash can it goeseded
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>>742950849
That's because her combo stuff locks her in place and most people are retarded with positioning.
Most of them are probably using terminus at that.
>>742951042
Base terminus is invalidated fast in chaos due to HP, early weapon transcending, and new sigils outstriping what it provides
Transcended appears at the end, but people are still figuring out if there is enough of a gap to really matter. It's likely the best, but the gap isn't showing to be nearly as wide as before.
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>>742939962
If you've played Monster Hunter before, Eugen is basically Pierce HBG.
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>>742951042
Ascended terminus weapons have a +250% dmg cap with less than 200k hp.
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Hey guys, I'm going through what I assume is the base game post-game and is Excavillion supposed to be a supreme-grade giga ass-cancer of a fight? I know I can perfect dodge attacks but I find myself rushing to death out of sheer fucking boredom
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>Bought this game for Fediel
>She's boring as shit
Bros................
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>>742951272
how? final transcend terminus is not even comparable to the other weapons
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>>742950756
Colo cane>Ascension>Level the rest>Terminus
Or that was my progression anyway.
Firm stance on colo is great
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>>742951230
charlotta
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>>742950756
Nevermind you want to uncap all of them because there are extra weapon bonuses.
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>>742951419
people likely just haven't seen transcended terminus yet
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>>742951441
she doesn't spin anymore except to gapclose, the plunge finisher does way more damage
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>>742951407
level your characters
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>do training
>doing 300% of the damage cap
>remove all my dmg cap sigils
>still doing like 200%
No idea where its coming from but its nice to get rid of those shitty sigils
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Seen a lot of people saying the performance/FPS is much worse since Ragnarok came out. Has anyone noticed this? And if it does is it affecting the base game too?
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Unlocking characters in the final tier of quests lets you recruit them at level 100 mastery 20 btw
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>>742951668
Uhh anon

If you're exceeding the damage cap you want to KEEP your damage cap sigil

You want to lower your atk, not damage cap
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>>742942301
I mean Proud is the first point at which the game actually starts offering SOME kind of pushback. Before that point the game is literally journalist mode.
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>>742951419
The attack means jack shit.
The higher damage cap is not nearly as big as it looks with literally everything else gotten from the new mastery stuff and other sigils.
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>>742951716
i've noticed no difference, although it feels like folca and seedhallow actually run slightly better for me now
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>>742951905
250% extra cap on like 2000% cap is still over 10% damage increase
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>>742951668
Holy fucking shit
Someone post the Bea picture, this anon might be fucking dumber
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>>742951668
You want to reach 100%
If your under 100%, you need more damage sigils
If your over 100%, you need more Damage Cap
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>>742947640
Weiss from RWBY as well
Also my favorite archetype.
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>>742951979
Which is not that much anon. If you want to minmax that much it's on you, but builds do have an effect on what you want to run.
Tanky and supporting builds will get way more out of defender and ascension than they will by kneecapping their HP.
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help bros, maglielle is making me take the potatopill
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guess the ahriman stage is still the best for mass farming large weapon exp grystals
>>742951042
technically they dont cap your hp, you just get more and lose your bonus
you'll probably still want one decently levelled and ascended to get your foot into chaos and you'll want to be mastering everything anyway, first weapon trascendence is like 20% dmg/cap
>>742951407
yes its a dogshit boss
>redoing story for crew cards
>the fight is even longer even with gigachads
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that choppy ass 30 fps bahamut cutscene that plays when you full burst how is so fucking jarring like why the fuck did they even put that shit in just show the beam doing damage and not the ugly ass choppy cutscene before it
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>>742951418
what’s wrong with her?
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extra dmg cap based on the master level from terminus Final Transcendence.
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I need LEVELS for my new characters aaiiieeeee
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>>742952165
If you haven't noticed, terminus still lets you have up to 200k hp, more than that and you're tanking mechanics and probably buffing the boss while at it.
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>>742952283
All transcends get this
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Picked this up in a random glowing spot. Farming for the perfect summons is going to be the new grind isn't it?
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>>742952283
wtf is master level
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>>742952312
Use your exp books you proly have hundreds
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>>742952415
Your mastery perks anon.
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>>742952364
Is there an ideal time to use these?
I don’t want to be the guy who never summons but I also don’t want to cuck the team when the resource is shared.
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>Siete asks me if I like his car
>777777 damage
Its peak....
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>>742952357
no they get different ones
just straight up worse than terminus
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>>742952353
>200k hp
>a lot
Lol
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>>742952465
No idea, I assume you just use it when they are broken and link time isn't about to pop so you can deal mega damage without them running around. Or a big AoE one in a fight where lots of targets are around like the lolibaba fight.
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>>742952312
>eugen or the other gun characters
>put turbo on attack button
>slimepede
>grind xp while I watch stuff on another monitor
yuuurrp its gaymin time
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>>742952465
When a boss is just done with a mechanic it's a safe bet
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>>742952364
Fediel drops this one. Its guaranteed
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is this 2 activations for the whole fight with a 155 second cooldown between them or does the remaining activation count reset every 155 seconds? i assume the former because the latter would make it extremely hard to actually die
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can you play the DLC online with a pirated copy? I know you could with base game
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>>742951747
dumb question but by that point do you still have a lot of content to go through with them?
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>>742952353
200k hp is like the bare minimum later on lol. It lets you tank like 2 hits if you are lucky.
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>>742952658
Oh, on the roof after her cutscene?
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>>742952081
but if anon removes his caps wouldn't that make the percent go up instead of down?
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>>742952697
former
>>742952353
the 2nd hardest difficulty has bosses doing 160k+ on some hits
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numbers make brain hurt
me potato unga
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>Charlotta new mastery wants you to actually use skills
LAAAAAAME

outside of the armor shred what moves do you guys use?
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>>742952796
yeah, chaos++ has like 24 quests and there's 4 challenge quests with the super bosses with extremely buffed stats
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How is Id as an NPC now? He's my highest leveled character but I'd like to try Fraux and start playing the Conflux
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Bra's gameplay is fun once you get into the skillspam mindset and learn to swap between red and green buff during boss overdrive

If I get hit I don't feel bad because she's a retard so it's in character :D
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>>742953069
I hope there are reasons to go back and farm them all.
Reason I burned out in the vanilla game was proto baha and I guess Pyet-A were the only fights anyone really queued for for the longest time.
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>enter lucilius
>fail the kills the swords
>raid ends
oh...
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>>742949308
whitegoat
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newfag here, after the story do I just keep following what the game tells me to do with the Roland quests or is there a fast lane now added with the DLC?
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>>742953473
I thought you just get your max health debuffed for failing the trumpets?
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>>742953473
Ignore the swords.
You need to link attack him before the bar fills
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>>742953248
He's good enough. Not the best but not unusable bad either
>>742947809
>>742947872
>>742947960
>tfw music straight from gbvs rising
>tfw he fucking uses Raging Chain on you and it's the actual name of his move where he dunks you

Funny as fuck, our jobber has made it so far
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>>742953543
chaos lucilius
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someone... please queue the world (infinity)....
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Pub difficulty ranking.
Bubs>>Luci>>>>Versa
watching him chain hit his bounds is just sad
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>>742953798
not sure what you expected, its a small pool of players that rushed to the endgame
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>>742953526
nope, no fast lane, no catch up, gotta trudge through the difficulties as if the expansion didn't exist.
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>>742953526
continue with the story and get into Chaos1 missions, do coop for em if you want it to be a bit smoother. after around 5 missions you'll be able to get master rank up to 10 and get the option to transcend some weapons, pick any (I recommend stinger for dmg or defender for survivability) and transcend em as much as you can. That'll massively spike your personal power on your player character, at which point you can continue and build on that with all the generous core sigils the game gives you in every mission such as spartan echo, war elemental, berserker echo, supplementary V+, etc. Eventually you'll have to do content where you can't co-op at which point you'll have to gear up your AI team a bit so keep that in mind as well. If you don't have any particular ideas who to pick for AI, Cag, Yodarha and Siegfried all bring a ton of survivability to the table for the party
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>>742953893
I mean, I figured the conflux version would have taught them the mechanics a little...
It'll be better in a day or two though yeah
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>>742937160
Revenge for the bassist.
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>queuing online past chaos 1
Nah bro at that point you have acces to conflux 4 and can finally gear up everyone with tier 2 mastery and play solo comfortably
Getting carried through the entire game multiplayer is boring as fuck, specially since online you might end up with a chink player with hacked stats that deletes the boss
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Man Io-chan is still as fun to play as she was all those years ago.
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>>742954021
>not MVPing every lobby your in
Couldn't be me.
>>742954026
She's just the best. Nothing like hitting 20m of a button
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>>742954002
nobody cares retard
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What exactly do you need to do to fill this?
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>>742954138
Progress!
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>>742954138
You just keep playing, it takes more than one mission to get a memory.
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>>742954026
you're a loser faggot
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>>742954138
go defeat some ragnalia to collect memories, duh
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>>742954207
Rude
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>>742954021
>Getting carried through the entire game multiplayer is boring as fuck
I queue multiplayer because it's harder, but it's a lot more fun compared to AI that plays perfectly. All the lategame stuff is way easier with AI on average
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Ok, I just started seriously examining my damage numbers and I'm hitting for "200%" on the training dummy. Somebody post the bea graphic, I need help.
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Holy sex
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How gay are Fraux's fate episodes?
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>>742954264
>100% = more damage cap
If it's under 100% it means you need more damage
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bros is eustace really bad
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Dunno why people hate playing with scrubs.
Succeeding despite mistakes is pretty fun
>hurr durr I want perfect robots to clear fights
Just use AI.
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It takes a lot to reach 100% with transcended weapons
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>>742935751
Question: Granblue Fantasy has a big fanbase on reddit, right? How do they handle Yaya's existence? I mean, surely an oppai loli would turn a common redditor's brain to mush, no?
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>>742954361
wrong side
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>>742949668
Do they drop the weapons in conflux as well?Also i forgot what to do to level up fast
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>>742954264
you need more damage cap
anything over 100% is overcap and lost damage
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>>742954532
ty sensei
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>>742954207
Gayest post in this entire thread.
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>>742954532
does sir barrold take into account Fatebreaker sigil needing to be in chaos difficulty to trigger?
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>>742947294
>targeted
I think it was just a bug fix, it seems like they applied the hitstop the player has to the CPU when doing the move.
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>>742954696
Unequip it and see?
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>>742936295
"IF YOU WANNA WIN, YOU'VE GOTTA SPON!"
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>>742954535
Everyone loves Yaia she is just that powerful
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>>742954138
the couner its not quests but cutscenes, do a couple quests a cutscene will popup moving the counter up
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>>742954026
What sigils and skills do you run on her now?
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>running across town barely paying attention
>almost miss glowing red spot
>
they're just handing these out like candy now, huh?
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Starting to notice a trend further i go is the fights just get messier and messier overall to make them seem hard
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>>742954997
Theres what id assume a Folca unique summon too
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When are we getting the improved Io as a skin?
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I don't understand how mag's combo finisher targeting circles work. they just seem like they have a mind of their own and run off to the side of the map. I have barely any control over them. is this supposed to happen or is that some weird keyboard mouse issue
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i got my ass beat by Lucilius, is Eternal duo easier?
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>>742955075
Alt costumes are confirmed so sooner or later I would reckon.
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>>742936295
been having fun with the SPIN2WIN, though not sure what skills to use outside the instant Deathmatch buff
Do wanna try Fediel and Fraux but I need to gear them up
>>742954997
I mean later masteries are ridiculously high costs so it makes sense they start vomiting ambrosias everywhere
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>>742955142
Yes, tho way much more "the floor is lava" BS in there
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Beato bros, how are you with managing Devour Mode with the bosses spazzing out?
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>>742954997
think the red ones are one time unique loot
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>>742954970
nta but I've been on this for most of C3
Cleared everything up to tengen at the moment.
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>>742955142
yeah even though they have a higher power requirement than normal lucilius, they're a much simpler fight mechanically
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>>742954970
I only just started playing again so i am just using what i had when i stopped.
I did switch something out for fatebreakers
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Does Fatebreaker work in Conflux 4 and above?
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>>742955093
You hold combo finisher/Y and for XY and XXY it'll move forward on its own in the direction you're facing/locked on towards. You can steer it left and right as it goes away from you and back towards you but that's it. On contact with an enemy, X[Y] and XX[Y] will automatically activate and hit them.
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1 2 3 > Ferry
4 5 6 > Rosetta
7 8 9 > Katalina
0 > Eustace
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>>742955142
It's a long fight if you have low damage, but an extremely fair one.
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>>742954997
I believe that's where the dragon girl was standing in the introductory cutscene, it's probably linked to that event.
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>>742955268
>>742954970
ah. and the greater aegis/burn res/improved healing are from summons.
burn/heal are for their substats only
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>>742954909
I don't believe you. There's no way reddit hasn't thrown a hissy fit about her. She's literally a 6 year old with canonically milky F-cups.
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>>742953051
i don't see why you would want to spam skills, you can get noble order stacks from just spamming normals and the extra skill dmg caps aren't enough to overcome the massive difference vs her plunge finisher
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>>742954026
I hope the magic chain tree is good, I'm a bit bored of concentration and stargazer V gambler Io. I miss launch Io a bit before her warpath, felt a bit more satisfying. Eustace kind of has the same vibes but he's 500 times slower to get to his payoff compared to ER Io lol
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>>742954890
It doesn't seem to account for it which sucks because it is both damage and dmg cap so its hard to figure out where you stand in terms of efficiency.
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did they make charlotta fun again or does she still have the OP sigil where you just spam yellow spin instead of actually interacting with her kit
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>>742955075
It's a crime with all the 3D art teams Cygames has there is no alt skins for characters other than MC. Just leaving money on the table if even sold as a DLC.
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>getting by cock sucked by my party members every time I perfect dodge or perfect parry
heh, keep it comin ladies
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>>742955451
I don’t think any of the uncs or fujo aunties still invested in the gacha really care. Its not on the radar of pearl clutching zoomies.
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>>742955451
Monkey are filtered and prudeproofed the community and GBF is safe from mentally ill gachafags because its unapproachable by any mean.
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>>742942301
you know you can just turn on assist mode and add some dodge sigils right?
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>>742955338
Why do some of Mag's XXXY finishers turn purple and latch on bosses?
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Bros Beelzebub is kicking my ass the moment Paradise Lust starts playing...
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>>742955658
she spams the yellow plunge now since they massive buffed that one. so to answer your question, no
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I'm so fucking lost bros,
I played the game 2 years ago and i think I finished the post game chapter (0?).
I reinstalled it for Endless Ragnarok and I have no idea what to do and how.
What should I do to get back into the game and find my bearings? I don't even remember how to play or what my characters did.
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>>742955829
Those are her upgraded finishers when you have enough veil gauge
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>>742955589
fatebreaker will always bring you closer to overcapping rather than undercapping, +50% ATK is a lot compared to +50% dmg cap. If you're at around 80% dmg cap hits on the lowe end then fatebreaker will bring you to 100%+ in ER quests
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>>742955892
Hit the training dummy on your ship for like 5 minutes and it'll come back to you
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>>742955582
I am going to give Fediel a go once i unlock her via the story but for now i am enjoying Io
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>>742954532
Ok but how do you training dummy test for Fatebreaker, Celestial Aqua, etc.
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>>742955892
you can fast travel to the grancypher and look for a training dummy in the corner to practice with the currently equipped character. there's a new feature now that changes the damage numbers to show how much damage you are doing relative to your damage cap, so if you're doing 50%, you are doing half of your cap and if you're doing 200%, you are held back by your cap and could be doing double damage with more dmg cap

if you just want to start the er story, i believe there's a harvin somewhere in seedhollow that has a quest for you to go into conflux 2 times and then the er main story kicks off from there
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Cagbros how we feeling? Doesn't seem like the playstyle has changed much except now the support options are better.
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>>742955338
I see, so you're not actually supposed to control them
the level 3 feels kinda bad to use. unless its a really big target, I have to let it go and hit the boss for a bit then jerk my mouse back so it stays. but if I move the mouse too much, then it just comes back to me without procing the purple and at this point no amount of steering saves it
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"KIDS ARE CRUEL GRAN... AND I'M VERY IN TOUCH WITH MY INNER CHILD!"
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>>742956128
xxyy feels a lot stronger doing some dummy tests. i am actually not sure if it beats xyy on big guys like dragons. the aerial barrage has been heavily nerfed and is no longer viable, which i quite like because i vastly prefer the collapse combo playstyle. but yeah it's basically the same shit
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Starting the vanilla game now. Assume the xpac is post-game ish content? Which characters suck so I can avoid them? I will be playing solo only so recommend me good AI teammates too. I will probably main fraux or feidel because they are my waifus.
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>>742956142
Yeah it feels a bit clunky with the XY and XXXY combos. It'd feel better if both were like XXY where you have full control, just have to get used to it though
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is there something im missing with Fraux? i see people saying she's complicated but it just seems like unga bunga spam to fill her stance bars and use all your skills?
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>Two eternals are always in my party
>Don't want to keep them in for the boss fight because it wouldn't be right
>Don't have anyone to replace them without crippling my party
back to grinding!
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>experiment with different fediel rotations
>using Insight Finishing Touch
>and doing 1 claw attack -> mash Y -> repeat is the highest damage rotation due to damage caps
fuuuuuuuuuuuck
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>>742956372
if you delay her y inputs, her combo changes, but you only have a split second to do it. you can see the move names will rapidly change in your attack ui

you are required to do this to maintain the buff on one of her sigils that give you 20% gauge gain up. it might also just be better to do delayed y inputs in terms of damage and gauge gain, i'm not sure, i need some autists to do indepth testing on all her combo paths
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>>742956529
Fediel seems so boring.
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>>742956529
Aint she great
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>>742956673
yeah but big fucking tiddies
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Man fuck the slime chasing and 3 guys switching minigames. I am absolutely fucking terrible at these
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>>742956376
Lick
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Guys, what the fuck is up with this bub just spamming shit to no end. I legit can't see anything.
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>wanted to build dragon waifu
>instead spent the day grinding conflux and building Mag
>finish her terminus
>throw some shitty sigils on
>somehow ends up with 2.5k more power than my highest so far
>haven't even gotten her last sigil slot yet
cool. guess i am doing actual content tomorrow.

>>742956719
for me it is spot the difference. fuck that.
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>>742935751
Wish I could play this and versus without mortgaging my home trying to play through the entire gacha for any semblance of context
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I just did a quest and this doesn't seem to work? I get no health back when using miasma hands.
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>>742956895
the gacha story is pretty incoherent and disjointed for the most part. more than an overarching story it's just a lot of little side stories and character stories. it's more interesting for the lore than it is really any complete plotline
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>>742955940
They only upgrade when you hit an enemy with the charged version long enough
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>>742956895
f2p can faceroll through all of gbf's story related content, you only need to swipe if you want to do the whalebait stuff
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>>742952195
i put that in the beta feedback but apparently english feedback didn't make it through
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Stop looking at Lyria like that.
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>the 1 star aura that raises your link bar by 1% every 5 second is actually the strongest aura to pick.
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>>742955542
Read her mastery, it needs a skill to deal damage
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>>742957085
They go with rule of cool by default which sucks ass because I can only watch a cutscene like 2-3 times before I'm tired of it, this games for every boss fight that cuts to a scene of the enemy changing phases or overdriving or doing their big attack.
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>>742956372
She has a lot of different combos and no one really knows which ones are optimal.
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Sieg seems to gain and maintain stacks as long as you complete the combo, even if you it the air. You just need to make sure each hit is perfect.
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Great fucking fight all around.
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>>742939017
on discord
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>>742957246
you only need to do it once
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>>742957217
Not really? You reliably SBA enough to trigger full burst for 100% link faster than waiting for passive link gain, I've found the SBA orb dump to be one of the better conflux auras.
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what's the difference between active traits and active equip bonuses for summons?
If I don't equip them their trait doesn't show up, and if they're equipped I obviously get their equip bonus?? So what's the difference
>>
Final boss fight spoiler stuff
Mum helping us was kino. Both bubs and hexa both are fun as fuck.
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>>742956976
does it have a start above
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>>742956529
She’s hot so I’ll play her anyway.
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>>742957602
One is a sigil effect while the other is a stat bump
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>>742957684
Not sure what you mean by that
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>i left the game just before the proud Bahamut Versa fight, it shouldn't take me that long
>all those proud quests unlocked after
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>>742956529
>do this in a quest
>it prints SBA gauge like release ferry
>get mvp for the first time with her
Bro I just optimized the fun out of my game
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>timegating terminus's final transcendence material to prevent anyone from rushing the content
cygames never changes with its scummy practices
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>>742957892
>game literally out for a day
>autistic neet minmaxer having a melty
Guaranteed you pirated the game too
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i keep finding extra crewmate cards is there any use for them?
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>>742957892
timegate how?
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>>742957892
>video game progression is "scummy practices"
You have cripplingly severe autism. Seek help.
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>>742957892
If you actually cared about that you'd just cheat it in instead of whining
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dropped the game, couldn't bear the obnoxious anime cringe
will probably finish it anyways since I like the combat
is the expac the same as the base game in terms of unbearable cringe?
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>>742958350
I paid for it, and now I have to wait for the rest of the content to unlock? I thought this wasn't a live-service game?
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>>742958659
killing yourself would be a better use of your time
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I dont reply to frogfags sorry
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>>742958659
Almost all of the expansion story is walls of text you can mash through
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>>742958712
the game is THAT bad? holy molly
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>>742958768
y da fog got a pizzer on he head
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Anyone starting from the beginning and want to play together?
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>>742944775
oh no no NO NO NON ON ONN ONNO NO NO!!!!

YURI BROSSSS?????
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If something just says "DMG Up" like on a buff or a mastery how does that interact with the damage cap?
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>>742958110
save them
I’m thinking there will be more characters added eventually
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which weapon tree do I transcend?
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>>742958768
damn now I want some pizza
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does "normal attack damage cap up" work for combo finishers?
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Do you actually unlock the other 2 characters during story? Does it take long? Or should i just use the tickets now?
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>>742958857
the fuck you talking about

>>742958753
holy fuck
why do japs do this
they have lots of potential why do they choose to deliver this extremely awful quality of a story

>>742958748
you replied to me in my mind sorry sugar
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>>742958931
Damage up buffs add on top of your damage cap, so its a dps gain
Damage up bonuses (from anywhere but actual in quest buffs) caps at your damage cap
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>>742955940
The purple finishers give extra veil gauge but they're triggered by hitting enough times
The X->Y(hold) finisher only needs 1 hit but it doesn't last very long
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>>742957892
Its literally how base game did it, it took a moment before people popping up with fully awakened Terminus and blowing raids. It will happen the same here.
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anyone have any luck playing their legit save on a pirated copy of the dlc? or better yet, creamapi or something for the dlc since the files are already included in the base game?
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>>742958997
I mashed the shit out of the story in this game and the fates.
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>>742958661
>and now I have to wait for the rest of the content to unlock?
Yes you have to play the game to unlock later parts of the game. That's how all video games work. Unironically kill yourself.
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>>742959036
which one is zeta's crimson clout sigil on
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>>742959159
yes many are playing now including me, use creaminstaller if you are tech-illiterate
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>>742959374
No idea honestly
Zeta's shit is a debuff that increase the damage you do to them
Before ER it didnt go past the damage cap, but now buffs are different so you honestly might have to go into training room and test it yourself
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WTF you can max all 3 Master trees?
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>>742957103
Look at her how?
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>>742955243
Spam low CD skills, press Triangle afterz they all have in built mobility, you're can zip all over the battlefield

The charge ability also restores like 70% of your bar
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>>742959581
Source?
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>>742959460
fucking lmao, never guessed it would be that easy. my dumbass torrented and installed the entire game thinking that would never work. oh well, i did want to buy it but i'm too poor right now
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>you can quick travel to the dummy
>can't quick travel back
come on
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>>742959119
Ah, I see. Honestly I forgot since it's been what? 2 years?

>>742959276
But I literally play the game? lol so salty for no reason, but that's to be expected from a cydrone. Go back to /gbfg/ and grind your bars you faggot nobody gives a fuck about your dead gacha or your dead general.
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>>742959636
[ASGO (Zanzi)] Karada o ULyria | Lyria Sells Her Body
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>>742959845
>>
>hit EX
>Io's self dot now deals 25k
>the self dot is a cumulative 10% per three seconds
right... not sure that's sustainable desu
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On Eugen if my regular shots are hitting 98% of the cap and my grenades are at 140% after I maxed out as much cap at my current stage of progression, does that mean his best damage rotation is sitting stationary and spamming sniper grenades?
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>>742959845
Sells the her body? She literally drained the guy to death!
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>>742960046
Always been
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>>742960046
Yes but not cause of the reasons you gave
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charlotta is just old faithful can't go wrong with her
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>>742957669
did I skip a phase? because that didn't happen with me
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>>742960046
if that 98% is on a dummy then it'll be fine because fatebreaker will make it cap
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>>742960326
Same, I don't remember. Only notable thing was critical gauge being set to 1 as a jumpscare but the power of tokuiten mogged itl
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>>742960326
You didn't see the screen/4th wall shatter with Oro's distortion when 'for you.' started playing?
You might have if not.
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>>742960292
I didn't mean right now with my current stats, just in the future when I can get the grenades to 100%
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>>742960029
Get drain
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>>742960358
fatebreaker increases both your damage and damage cap
so if you do 98% on the dummy you'll do 98% in a mission (except the actual numeric value of the damage will be higher)



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