Listen here, you idiots. Do you think you are hard to find? The right cats are already doing it. There are links in the Hometown's Administry and the Castle Town. The first data on particularly active already received. It is better to stop his "Egg Hunt", otherwise we will have to take action. You have touched the wrong cats, and will have to answer. You have no idea how far it can go. If someone wants to learn the hard way, then keep doing what you are doing. You have been warned.
>>>/vg/
>>742957726>>>/lgbt/
>>742957726Don't forget.... to check your spam folder
Eramgods always win. FRIEND is just Eram's elite mooks
>>742957656nothingburger theorybait character
>Is the best-written and most complex Toby Fox antagonist in your path
>>742958267Most complex...I wouldn't say thatHe's pretty straightforward.
>>742958165ERAM is the mouse wizard by the way.
go back
>>742958180Let's see if you can still say the same thing after a pack FRIENDs brutally kill Kris in chapter 6 across multiple saves
>>742958685I would simply dodge their attacks
>>742958165>responsible for fucking up the UNUSED character>one of many sources of Kris's deep underlying trauma since childhood>responsible for turning Jevil into a gigaschizo and Spamton into an absolute trainwreck>objectively has ties to the shelter, it's not just a place The Knight is using for the sacrifices>knows about ALL the routes>using his FRIENDs to stalk (You) since you first set foot in that basement in chapter 2>knows exactly how horrible Kris can beI never doubted this mystery nigga's relevance for even a second.
>>742958795nice headcanon
>>742958685>make a new save>the friends are still chasing you>in chapter 1
>>742958685This just feels like the Mike shit all over again. Not doubting it's going to be important somehow, but I also wouldn't be surprised if we had a whole scene of the Mike gang making fun of fans for actually caring about this character.
>>742957656NormalNPC victim.
>>742957726We're not the ones breaking board rules here, gachabrain
Who do you think Mew Mew is talking about in regards to the person running the FRIEND hunting party?
This update pretty much confirmed that Dess was raped
Ahem
>>742958685I hope the inevitable boss fight is some insanely hard shit, I'm talking about 90% of the fanbase getting filtered. Toby needs to go all out on this one because it might be his only chance.
>>742959034
>>742959034>They're not eggs they're pipis>Only FRIEND like me can call the boys eggs>A white egg? think before you stink (because FRIEND is smelling you)Spamton will never stop being relevant will he?
>>742957656I'm tired of the lore bait myself, I wish Toby already explained how FRIEND, Gaster and the Eggs are connected already. But I guess we will have until 7 for answers.
>>742959236we're gonna get to chapter 7 and STILL find shit he was foreshadowing
I'm replaying Deltarune to get all the eggs. Which Jevil reward is better - Jevilstail or Devilsknife?
>>742959050I'm hoping for a Mr. X/Nemesis thing where you're hunted, and eventually forced (maybe at random) into a harder than Sans fight that gets people stuck. I want to see people delete their saves in fear of the cat, and then >>742958868
>>742959236CyberBateman is still Toby’s best character
>>742959280Remember. Sans already knows more than he's letting on. You WILL get Leder'd by him in Chapter 7 before you enter the shelter.
>>742958165Eram is Seam btw.
>>742959034>constant ‘pipis’ label was to keep it hiddenHow much other random shit is going to end up being important
>>742959326Devils knife has quite a few interactions iirc, tail has none
>>742957656
>>742958884This, it won't happen because Toby wants to be subversive.
>>742959326Devilsknife. It'll make beating Knight easier and both of Jevil's equips get powercrept anyway.
>>742958954I have no fucking idea.
I don't care about IMAGE_POTENTIAL_DANGER .And frankly, it's cringe Toby scurried to add this because his vagueposting got called out.
>>742959236>White eggs are another man's treasureHe even knows about the forgotten man
reminder that friend is always associated with unused content, if noelle is suppose to be the girl in the prophecy that means she is unused content
>>742959034The game peaked at spamton, how did we go from him to mew mew?
>>742959426>pirate gaster made toby so angry he lorebombed to distract everyonelol. lmao, even.
>>742959517Despite being an afterthought, it aligns pretty well with the little info we have gotten about Friend
>>742959353It's funny that some people thought Sans was going to be irrelevant for some reason despite knowing Toby loves him.
>>742959617Oh please. She couldn't get much more use. She's a total fucking screenhog and she's hijacked every single plotline and character arc to make it about her.
>>742959426>>742959517Even then, the main meme is vagueposter king Asgore, he didn't fix that.
>>742959517he added it in after because he wanted people to get the egg first without data mining. there is new functions in the game that checks for flags in individual chapters.
>>742959628Nah, what made him mad was the Vagueposting King and people dunking on Mew Mew memes and also people hyping up Norm and calling Friend a fraud.
>>742959517yeah im gonna be honest, im not obsessing over something toby wrote in a few days because his 10 year pre-written story didnt deliver
>>742959034the what?
>>742959684lol
>>742959236spamton is the game's main fucking character
>Toby saw everyone shitting on his vague posting and how everyone ditched FRIEND for Hometown Butcher so he had to throw in an emergency lore drop post launchFUNNYPOW!!!!
>NO, I GET IT! IT'S YOU AND THAT [Hochi Mama]!>YOU'VE BEEN [Making], HAVEN'T YOU!>YOU'VE BEEN MAKING [Protein]!>AND NOW THAT YOU HAVE YOUR OWN SUPPLY, YOU DON'T NEED ME!!!
>>742959756>his 10 year pre-written story didnt deliveronly the ending is pre written, he said that the problem was getting htere
>>742959751>he added it in after because he wanted people to get the egg first without data miningthis was literally the easiest egg, AND we got a hint for it.
>>742959236No character, schizo or not, has surpassed Spamton in relevance and meme power, he's just that good.
>>742959827This means we can bully Toby into giving us what we want
>>742959362Possibly. No cats can be trusted at this point. Not even Catti. Maybe Catty.
>>742959843not what i mean, he wanted us to get the egg first and ensure everyone is locked into whatever the egg is suppose to be important for before updating the game with the added context that the eggs might be bad to have
>>742959673i still think he's irrelevant>breadbread gets soggy underwater, it's meaningless
People acting like Friend got aura back but all I can imagine is this shit happening with Friend and normal NPC offscreen it's impossible for me to take seriouslyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seP1w3XPBfo
>>742959050Pls toby don't fuck it up like you did with the Titan fight and actually make the boss harder even if it filters normies like the mew mew fight
>>742959827>toby hates FRIEND slander because its so vague that the fanbase practically writes it for him>does not like that this living UT callback has gained aura at the expense of FRIENDIs the hometown butcher /v/ core now?
>everything from papyrus's date shows up in mew mew's battle>except the egg
>>742959827Toby KNEELED and caved in, just like when we started noelle rape jokes and removed the rose.
>>742959971*taps the sign*
>>742958165>First MANTLE game board>Shop in the pyramid at the top of the map has the message "Having fun?" in blacked-out normal text if you backtrack after reaching Max LV>On either side, you can cut through the trees to reach secret rooms which reveal FRIEND's eyes and smile after waiting in them for 10 seconds>At the bottom of the map is another secret room, with the message "See you soon." in the same case and blacked-out text, and you see the Mantle fly awayThis has been conclusive evidence that FRIEND = "ERAM" since Chapter 3 and nothing has contradicted that.
>>742959950>No cats can be trusted at this point.Remember, Tasque Manager is praying for all cats to deal extra fire damage in Chapter 5 if you recruited her.Fire damage, to counter the ice doe.
>>742959950>set Burgerpants up with CattyOh no…
>>742959362>>742959950What I want to know is what is the deal with Seam on Asriel's computer. Unless, was that ERAM? An alternate version of him on the computer in the house?
>>742960032damn it
>>742960008You can never fight pre-nerf Knight again without reverting your game.
>>742958954It definitely cant be Gaster, no way in hell is Gaster just showing up to random Darkners. It has to be someone Mew Mew could have realistically met or been around. I suppose the only person that comes to mind is Noelle with her Cat Petterz obsession
My girlfriend is a cat so everything should be fine and I will be invited to the cookout instead of murdered.
>>742960146is pizzapants a cat?
>>742960246Your GF is at the top of the Friend Gang murderlist for speaking too much
>>742959690It's almost like this had nothing to do with twitter memes...
>>742960303i think toby might have referred to him as a cat once, but i might be misrememberingbut he looks like ren which would make him a dog
>>742960023Normal NPC is a singular character FRIEND is a group of catsIt's like comparing Kamek to Dry BonesNorm will definitely be more relevant later as he is the only Gaster follower without a normal (heh) counterpart in Undertale
>>742960349yeah okay toby, keep seething
>>742960150Wait what if friend inside me is just Seam? He does seem suspiciously well informed about each dark crystal fight. As if he watched it happen
>>742960303>>742960383Milklooker commends you for hooking up Catty with Pizzapants because he's a cat and they're also cats
>>742959353>You WILL get Leder'd by him in Chapter 7 before you enter the shelter.it's not an undertale prequel.
I don't know what to believe anymore other than the 3 layers
Want to know why there's so much cheese in the dark worlds Kris creates? What does this cheese actually mean, and how is it connected to Kris and Noelle? "Cheese Theory" will answer all these questions!https://www.reddit.com/r/Deltarune/comments/1r54509/knowing_the_mouse_might_one_day_get_the_cheese_a/https://x.com/Gravy141/status/2071670901020488094
Imagine being a dice knowing all your rolls are fucked with by something you struggle to even comprehend to the point you hallucinated someone else
Protein
In Chapter 3, you can drink all the water in the oasis in Board 1. You are, from Chapter 3 onwards, given options to drink ALL the water. Kris cannot do this, obviously, but I personally think the water in Hometown is something that can be permanently removed under the right conditions, i.e if you remove the water from 1 source the entire town will no longer have water unless it rains.Also, Board 2 had you get 2 people to stand on the shore for a bridge to Atlantis to appear, but Roulx Kard fucked up that sequence with his Thruple shit. Atlantis goes to the Rock concert where December is first mentioned.Board 3 is the city on fire. Ralsei has a fire attack he refuses to use.
>>742959690Asgore implicitly and explicitly gave a lot of info this chapter people are legit just fucking stupid. This fanbase must trend super young
>>742960164>optional adjustmentAt least I can opt-out of itThe Knight nerf was a fucking disgrace for this game
do you think Seam used to have something on his forehead before the black patch got sewn on?
>>742960498Another version, made by an anon.
>>742960547>and explicitlyYou know the situation is bad when people have to outright lie
>>742960150Definitely Eram. Eram is the Pixel Seam.
>>742960407NormalNPC is a goner and they’re not the only one hanging around hometown. A group of on-site agents spooking about.
>>742959628Someone needs to make a edit of this with Dess in the shelter hiding from friends
>>742959034What does [friend like me] and other different styles work/mean?I havent played the game!
I hope Toby actually kills off Onionsan and leaves a bit of dust somewhere in the next chapter. It would be so cool
>YOUR CRITISMS ARE VALID! PLEASE, TAKE THIS LITERAL FRIENDSLOP AND SPARE ME!I lost a bit of respect for the 'fox today ngl
>>742957656>people bitch about FRIEND being “le vaguepost character”>Toby adds more FRIEND vagueposting in a random update>suddenly everyone’s hyped again and think FRIEND is gigastatanIt’s that easy huh?
>>742958165The real question is, how is Ramb connected to ERAM? How did he get ahold of a game that not only told you about the Weird Route, but also about ERAM and FRIEND, and what's inside the shelter?>mfw my Ramb stocks I bought when chapter 3/4 dropped is going to skyrocket
>>742959971It's a blatant reference to the Mother 1 glitch, he's important.
>>742960164Pre nerf knight was literally one attack with fucky hitboxes, the actual design flow and difficulty of the fight didn't change
>>742960501he's so gay
>>742959753>what made him mad was the Vagueposting King and people dunking on Mew Mew memes and also people hyping up Norm and calling Friend a fraud.Yes, and all of this was true and valid. Him needing to push out a fucking lore patch proves this.
>every pornpost for the next few years will reference proteinCan't wait!
the rose and lorebomb give me hope and worryhope that we will have retroactive updates to chapter 1 for loopCHADsworry that we will just become yet another fandomslop product
>>742960246Invest in catgirls, they being catlike will confuse the FRIENDS and keep you safe.
>>742960776>Pre nerf knight was literally one attack with fucky hitboxesIf I can do it, so can the rest of the fanbase.On a lesser note, didn't Jackenstein get nerfed as well?
>inb4 krusietards manage to bully Toby into retconning Suselle out of existence
>>742960605What do you think Asgore knows and hasn't told you?
>>742960787But they reproduce
>>742960547>explicitlyby Oda standards
>>742959362>Seam says he'll give you the mantle, looks around for it and is surprised that someone stole it>Sean is surprised that you beat the knight without the mantleIt's not Seam. It makes zero sense
Do you like cats?
i won't update my game until chapter 6 comes out, just like i did with chapter 4 to 5
>>742960716The game is the game Asriel was making but in the Dark World. Tenna was the one who found it and modified it.
Shits fucked.https://litter.catbox.moe/103lkpzhyn3gnx8c.mp4
REMINDER THAT FRIEND WILL KILL A NAMED CHARACTER
>>742960857I just don't think bad hitboxes = true difficulty, the new knight is just as hard and how it should have been from the startBut yes they nerfed poor jack, I don't know if it's the flowery way where he gets easier if you lose, or if it was a straight nerf. I hope not the latter, I like how the required fights are getting teeth. Maybe I just suck but flowery kicked my ass.
>The Friends are simple minded creatures >Meaning that Spamton got away from them by just disgusing himself as Swatch>They got Spamton A. Spamton ass because they though he was Spamton G. Spamton
>>742960917>Asgore implicitly and explicitly gave a lot of info this chapterYou don't have to lie.
Noelle will eat Kris’ protein
>>742960108That's just evidence that Eram is using FRIENDS to spy on you. Eram owns them and is his own character. ERAM is the demon
>>742960823Looping isn't happening, let go.
https://youtu.be/2wmfuySTKckgaster's theme
Every bit of brokenness and experimentation keeps me interested in this. It better fuck with me enough next chapter or I will riot
ERAM is the mouse wizard.
>>742960979>Spamton lore keeps getting better>HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN SINCE WEALL RISE o7
>>742960976Jackenstein has>If Jackenstein is lost to two times in a row, the chasing pumpkin's damage is halved. The third loss causes the TP gain to be increased by 50%.>Reduced the speed of the bullets on one of Jackenstein's attacks.
>>742961059friend might be some kind of bug check, he seems to only go after things that are seemingly not suppose to happen in the game
>>742960971oh fuck, he was being hunted
>When this dropped at 3AM we had an 1100 post thread of hype and speculation>LATAM hours start and suddenly it's all Twitter ragebait and retards seething at Toby#nooticing
First post raped post
>>742960918Pixel Kris and Kris are different people like Seam and Eram.
>>742960609I know about the other two NPCsThe point is, how come NormalNPC is the only follower that you cannot encounter normally in Undertale unlike the other two?There's gotta an explanation for that in the future
>mew mew is worried about KrisCute
>>742960716ERAM set him up and stole him so he could personally fight with Kris without Ramb telling him what happened
>>742960979The Spamton Sweepstakes videos are not canon.
Why does the game think self inserting is bad unless you wanna be a tranny catgirl?Nah, fuck you Robert, role-playing games are for role-playing.
>so i told gaster it sounded like he was just feeding FRIENDs to HERO_SWORD and his ERAM cried.
>>742961201self inserting is bad and all self inserters have been ruining discussions on video games for decades
>>742960157Oh no...
>>742959827Wth what are you saying did a newsletter drop?
>>742961048Undertale had it with flowey since looping is tied to load/save. It’s not crazy to think it’s a possible element
With the new Mew Mew lore drop pic related is even stranger now.....why are the eggs considered "issues" when collected?
>>742961239Go fuck yourself, I play games for fun, part if the fun is going on my pretend adventures
I'm sorry FRIENDbros... I didn't believe
>>742961082And ALSO>Pipis are a bad egg reference from Gen 1 of Pokemon >Spamton dupped a lot of Pipis as a way to distract the Friend Pack in case they found him
>>742961201Pink literally made the point that you and Kris are two halves of a whole regardless of the circumstances
>[thing] made Toby ANGRY because {headcanon}Remember when it was supposed to be the Latinx?
>>742961082BIGSHOT
>>742961293you are literally already a character in deltarune you fucking retard, who the fuck are you self inserting as
Are cats good for you?
>implying Gaster is the villain
>>742960892According to Chapter 5, Asgore only knows:>SOMETHING happened in the Dark Worlds>SOMEONE did it (Fair enough on this one, he doesn't know the culprit)>Anyways I lost my trust and got divorced because of itAt this point you have to believe that Asgore doesn't care about whatever happened as much as how it hurt him. Did someone die? Did thousands of dollars go missing in a dark world heist? Asgore smoothly manuevers mentions it.>B-but its a secret for the en-We're on the THIRD CHAPTER
friendly reminder eram is a twitterfag namethe mantle is just called mantle
>>742961346Kris
>>742960164All it did was shift the sprite one pixel so that it didn't lie. I don't think anyone but the guy sitting in the bullet programming tool staring at the hurtbox was affected by this.
>>742961338we latinx love toby, he's so tsundere
>>742960164>...He's talking like a tranny spiteful of normal people for their natural born transphobia now. It's so over.
>>742961153All the Xitter and Reddit tourists woke up.
>>742959753Don't forget Pirate Gaster, he was probably FUMING that people stopped taking him seriously again.
>>742961371>We're on the THIRD CHAPTERThird to last chapter*Feel free to claim victory on this
>>742960187>Cat PetterzDidn't the cats come out of eggs?Someone should go over that stuff again with this new info.
>>742961404toby has always talked like that
>>742961035>pink-and-yellow everywhere, mysterious "TAIL OF HELL," secrets getting "mixed up">Eggs, the Shadow Crystals, the "sword route" and the Weird Route all unified by this fucking cat>"yeah but it's not the cat, it's uhh this EXTRA SUPER SECRET character that we know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about"I don't really see the point of it, man
>>742960892Who was involvedWhere it wasWhat happened in the aftermath beyond "Asgore makes conspiracy corkboards and loses his job"What further involvement does Carol have following the incidentAnd sure, maybe Toby is saving these for chapter 7. But in that case, it would have been better if Asgore didn't dedicate his time to vagueposting about it in the first place and leave it all for a proper reveal
>>742961371dess went missing and that's why everything went to crap
>>742961404transphobia is natural
>>742959362SEAMERAMSE ERSEERProbably bullshit because Seam's name is Nui in the japanese version.
>>742961502>(UNCOFIRMED HEADCANON)
>finally get some kind of jevil relevance >lol just kidding! more spamton LOL!fuck you toby
>>742961424How can a man be so bitter? Pirate Gaster was the most fun this fandom has seen in years
>>742960756The raped
>Friend inside me wants proteins
>>742958795Nice nothing but complete canon
So how did the dess molestation go?Was it pegging? Handjob? Rimming? Full on amazon position rape? Or did she just kiss the little faggot and kill herself in a dark world like a pussy
Why doesn't Kris just fuck her? She's way better than those dyke whores
>>742961371>At this point you have to believe that Asgore doesn't care about whatever happened as much as how it hurt himi mean isn't this true, asgore was more mad about losing his family than he was about the incident(tm) he was just using it as a reason to get his family back.
>>742961153when i woke up and saw the patch i thought it was pretty cool...for like 2 seconds, and then i realized this was a blatant kneejerk update adding MORE vagueposting in response to everyone moving on to the hometown butcher and pirate gaster and not focusing on toby's favorite cat's split second appearance
>>742961529I CAN MEW ANYTHING
>>742961165My stupid idea is it’s like an inverted fun gangNormalNPC is like the Susie (out in the open, blunt solutions due to being strong as hell given they can take out a kraken size octopus, shit at hiding, like blocking and mercing in broad lightworld daylight, fucks with the prophecy despite playing into it)Eram is more like the Ralsei (fucks with game rules, secretive as hell and likes to play games (via FRIEND or otherwise))And knight is the Kris (mute, likes knifes, cryptic agenda, may be a cage themselves)
>>742961336No it didn't, it just regurgitated thr fanbase's opinion that only the characters get to have an opinion
>>742960932I like catgirls but cats can be fine, too.
>>742961283If we go by chapter 4 egg, the eggs probably has to do with Kris' repressed memories.Chapter 4's egg as a hole is the most eerie, because of it resembles the doors to chapter 3 and how Dess is connected to itThe whole "Forgotten Man is Kris' therapist" theory starting to make sense
>>742961248update dropped that added new Mew Mew text if you got damaged by friend and collected the egg
I don't get why you guys can only imagine that Toby would do something because he got angry about memes.
>>742961354This cat is very fine, but at the same time she's really bad for you
>>742961610declawing cats is good
>>742961526dess left and things went to crap then, as confirmed by noelle in the weird route
>>742961529He's LONG since surpassed that [[Clown Around Town!]]
>>742961526what else could it possibly be?
>>742961239This.
>>742961602Kris hates anime because Alphys and Berdly are such embarrassing weebs that it actively deters him from anything that could put him on their levels.
lore-relevant character btw
>>742960704I mean, at least this time, Mew told Kris that a cat bited him, confirming that friend is indeed a cat, and to watch his ass with them, i would say that's a bit better than Asgore
>>742961529>Now it's time to be a Big [MewMew]
>>742961371>Dess went missing in a dark world, Asgore went inside>He saw the Knight and couldn't find Dess, assumed knight was responsible>The dark world where this happened was a different color than Flower world (So Kris didn't make it)>Asgore told people about it, but nobody believed him and he couldn't find the fountain again for proof(meaning someone else can seal them)>Asgore tore his family apart acting crazy over something that sounded like fantasy, and felt responsible for Dess's disappearance even though there was nothing he could have doneThe only thing ambiguous is where the fountain was made
>>742961716Tits too small
>>742961619toby is really leaning into hack fraud reactionary territory as much as he separates himself from the audience and pretends to be above it all, he sure is spiteful.Just when I was about to forgive him for the Rose payoff since we all misinterpreted who was violated...
>>742961694Kris...
>>742961715Yeah because doing occult shit and worshipping knives is way less autistic
>>742961646Because a spirit and a body needing to work together means that only one of them gets a say in the matter?
>>742961269Undertale was a much simpler and shorter game not divided by chapters.
>>742961754Leaning? He was always like thisMember Mike?
If FRIEND is now tied to Egg Man, doesn't this mean his role in the grand scheme of things isn't important?
>>742961602>no hooves
>>742961754>hack fraud reactionaryCompletely nonsensical string of words. Bro is just typing shit.
>>742960383Imagining Pizza/Burgerpants with Ren's voice is pretty great.
>>742960547Asgore redefined the entire conversation around The Knight by establishing that they're connected to Dess's disappearance (instantly killing every major candidate except Dess herself)Underaged Twitter retards completely missed this (probably because it required them to spot and interact with something on the floor instead of mashing through a cutscene while they look at their phone) and instead ran with Rudy Knight memes because they someone repost The Knight slamming headfirst into a wall out of context
>>742961820>Bro is justyou have to be 18 to post here
I don't believe Toby added this as a response to his fanbase at all.
How I sleep knowing>Susie and Noelle will break up>Ralsei isn't a tree nor will he transition>Dess is the Knight>Kris's gender is up to interpretation>NormalNPC won't ever do anything of note>Cheese Theory is valid
>>742961354All the talk about fighting cats is reminding of Mewgenics What would cat class of the fun gang be?>Kris = ???>Susie = Fighter >Ralsei = Cleric>Noelle = Mage
I always thought that toby wanted to punish the schizos really hard.As in the payoff for all this secret weird nonsense (alongside datamining) is everyone eating shit by the end
>>742961851people will ruin every character by making it into a female
>>742961834i always hear Master Shake
>>742961817I think this was just a way of saying there's not going to be a secret egg route with an egg ending. It doesn't say "not important" it says "not TOO important". Which means it's still kind of important.
>>742961121shadow crystals showing broken dreams probably actually means showing how the prophecy is suppose to play out, noelle is suppose to be the girl, kris is suppose to lose his hand, susie is suppose to be the bully forever. kris is looping and the cats are after him cause he's fucking up the game, spamton tries to do the same thing and now we know they were after him as well.
NormalNPC is like a Susie Eram is like a Ralsei Knight is like a Kris I'm noticing
Funny how toby added a mild nod to the FRIEND encounter in this chapter instead of adding actual plot progression.
>>742961541I highly doubt Toby actually hates pirate Gaster, he doesn't hate EVERY popular fandom meme
>>742961667That's retarded if he was going to update the game why didn't he remove Blue
>>742961820Stop subverting shit and give me my adventure game back
If i just play deltarune do i get all the lore or do I have to watch YouTube videos about these spam ton sweepstakes?Are there other out of game content thats mandatory
>>742961529jevil gets the surface level references by the characters spamton is the gift that keeps on giving with damn near every word that came out of his mouth being prophetic schizo babble
>>742961716Always was.
>>742961818Wait, Kris is ultrabased!?
>>742961987You will get all the lore in the future
>>742961682Because of shit like this that is in his game btwhttps://youtu.be/tvrE7s_2hVU?is=5xK2AXgvVH2tCHzZDid you laugh? Was it funny? Then what was the point?
>>742960164"pre-knight nerf" is an actual larp btw
>>742961948Anon...https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vToZmxChlw7vpySMDBGEkpbxwqbDNHb2f6SR8VfrON8TUi33LRvTiHW3jDc8UOZsnwgaTH80-YMTUjG/pub
why the fuck everyone acting like pink had nothing going on under the hood before the patched-in dialogue when she pulls out a bomb that does this and plays grandpasemi.ogg
>>742961987Sweepstakes aren't canon, it's just fun inbetween chapters
>>742961424>>742961541reminder that every vessel needs a ship cat
>>742961851People will improve every character by making them into a girl.
>>742960704>>742961720for me it's less the things explicitly said and more the situation that causes this scene to happen, I was kinda just assuming that most of the friend/eggs and even a lot of the shadow crystal stuff was just toby recreating the part of mother most indie devs forget about, all the weird fucking one off 1/256 item drops and rare encounters and one off npcs that say shit to generate "dude when I played the game I got a FUCKING SWORD" "no way dude" kinda stuffbut having a scene that requires you to do multiple different weird spooky optional things at once ties them together in a way they haven't before, which makes me go "oh, maybe he's actually doing something with this besides having some fun", especially when its a "hey, watch the fuck out" message instead of just "kris, something bad happened in the past at some point to someone"
>>742958267Nah, it's still Spamton.
>>742962074kek, does toby just make minuscule changes to get people to fuck off
>>742961987Nothing is mandatoryThe game itself has some side content that's not easy to access without some hints at least, that lead to weird shit happeningHalf of what people talk about here is just theory making based on random bits and pieces from the game itself that don't line up in such a way that it's too obvious
>>7429620741.0 hitbox looks fineit matches the spritewhy would the tip of a sword NOT hurt you?
>>742961987There is zero content outside the boundaries of the game that is mandatory reading. None whatsoever. The sweepstakes and the like only exist to keep us sane during the WAIT.
>>742962073I have no idea what about this fight you could possibly find spiteful or upsetting. Get off the internet for a while. Not everything is about you.
>>742960547Talking about "that incident" isn't explicit anon. the game is almost over and we still know next to nothing about motivations other than Find Her,which isn't stated in the game itself ,and avoiding the prophecy which only the player is trying to do every chapter.
L-LORE-HEADS SAMA?I KNEEL, PLEASE TAKE THIS LORE
>>742962058Aww.
CoL? You in here?
>>742961851i mean what's the alternative? that he just forgot to add the entire fucking dialogue about cats? and decided to prioritise adding that over fixing shit like the (presumably) accidental death of jackenstein for killing titan fetuses or the WR noelle ferris wheel dialogue that was actually in the code being untriggerable?
>>742962087what
>Newsletter drops>It's a black box>Newsletter drops again at 3 AM for americans>It's just friend with a letter for you.>The letter reads:>"It was too dark to write anything legible. I had to speak aloud and hope someone who can see could write the words.">"Anon. You must be glad this is over by now. I understand if it wasn't the send-off you were expecting. Maybe it was too much. The dark clouds were rolling in, the sunset was beautiful. It was horrifying. It was heartbreaking. I'm sorry it didn't mean all that much in the end.">"I can't talk much more.">"It's a little too dark for words.">The website updates, no more links to anything but merchandising and how to get the game.>All the ARG links lead to a black page, not even the dog is there anymore.ah, imagining things sucks
>>742961367Gaster just likes to watch and see, Deltarune is just an experiment to see what'd be strong enough to break through the barrier
>>742961754anon people had been calling kris 'the raped' months before ch5 came out toby officially saying that it actually was kris who got violated isn't some huge revelation nobody saw coming
>>742962198Post Chapter 5 everyone became him.
>>742962173bullet heck vidya game, please understand we need to sell to 9 year olds
>rewatching spamton value network>toilet paper is described as "issue-free tissues"shit theory confirmed?
>>742959517I'm just glad Friend is relevant because his PINK and Yellow meme means Suselle is also something forced and we will get a Krusie and Kriselle ending at the end. This will be interesting because we will somehow get Kris to forget Susie in the true roue and re-kindle lust for Noelle
>>742961553Source? And no, reverse search doesn't help. The artist is Mewkratt.
>>742962040Of course. Kris spent his entire childhood with Noelle. She shaped his tastes.
>>742961987The sweepstakes is pretty much a bit of future lore that will appear laterYou know the maze in the mantle game? one of Noelle blog teased thatYou can pretty much ignore it
>>742962252what is the point of your reply?
>>742961840noelle still is a candidate because of the heavy implication that she was also involved with whatever happened i guess asriel is as well but does anyone actually thin asriel knight is a possibility?
>>742961785Yeah when the game says that the soulless body deserves a say in what the force that animates it does while said animating force is treated as an irritable shut-inThat's exactly what I glean from thisfuck that shit, who does Toby Fox think he is
>>742962282>chad_kris69 literally has to force every new lore reveal to be about shipping because he doesn't actually like the game
>>742961815He really only started being like this when he had a team of trannies to suck his cock. It's the group effect. Not a bully by default, but a bully when you have to fit in within the bully group (trannies).
How did he lose an arm?
>>742961987all the arg stuff is just stuff that will be in the game
>>742962173I don't disagree but the single pixel doesn't actually make a difference in most cases in the first place. Also doesn't explain why he randomly adjusted the hilt's hitbox when you're always going to be in a position to get hit by them if you're close to it.
>>742962282that's asriel's rented book btw
>>742962213>I can only imagine one scenario (the one in which I'm right) therefore that is the only one that is possibleIt's like talking to a goldfish.
>>742957656This nigga Kris is TERRIFIED of that little pussy. Every instance of Kris wanting to be alone is related to FRIEND (confronting Spamton alone, sword route, eggs). They probably just want to protect Susie and Ralsei. The only instance of Kris being scared is after witnessing what happened to someone who had to give up his life running and hiding away from friend. It's terryfing to know that even Kris, someone who's working directly with the Knight and is hiding their real strenght like Ralsei, shits and pisses thier pants at the mere thought of confronting FRIEND.
>secret boss hint next chapter final boss
>>742961987a lot of the sweepstakes stuff was just teasers for the upcoming chaptersat most you could read the noelle blogposts to get a bit more insight into her and her past but everything relevant is in the game
>Eggs are evidence of an event in the future>Noelle intentionally tortured her cats in the cat petters game>Her comments about intentionally doing the evil route in her game was not benign>FRIENDS are hunting you down for finding eggs in the normal route since they may be used as proof to Susie to protect her from Noelle.
>last secret boss of the game requires emergency loredrop to get people to stop trashing itgrim
>>742962442ralsei can you stay in bounds please
>>742962184It is explicit when he's providing lots of new details we did not know before, people are just whining the knight isn't unmasked.
>>742962352To tell you that rape actually also happen to males by females ahahah. Aren't you impressed by the subversiveness of this statement?
>>742962437i mean, if you can't come up with another one...
Kris and his wife
>>742962153I think it was more like>People bitch about the Knight >Somewhere down the line Toby "nerfs" the Knight so people can shut about a seemingly unwinnable encounter being hard>During this time people get better at the game and actually learn the fucking fight>Attribute this to the "nerf" instead of their better understanding of the fight
>>742962513i won't consider a last minute change as canon
>>742961840>(instantly killing every major candidate except Dess herself)Y'know except The Knight just taking her soul
Help me out here.I hear a lot about how the town isn't real or that it's the only thing that exists and there's nothing outside of it.I think the town is just part of the underground. There's still a surface, and that's where the third board takes place.
>>742962574But that's literally a feral doe...
>>742962407He broke his grill.It was very expensive.
>>742962574maybe the reason why noelle had a breakdown is because she was forced to wear clothes after dess left
>>742962198You can say this about Ralsei as well. Why is the fucker encouraging you to keep his fountain open?
>>742962513Hopefully chapter 5's reception should be a wake up call for TobyAll the vagueposting made chapter 5 felt like fillerHopefully he should have more awareness for the game
>>742962252
>>742962198He got vindicated after chapter 5
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>>742962526>Ralsie breaking the rules is LE GOOD>CHADlery breaking the rules is LE BADim noooooticing
>>742961754My problem with the rose is that it was a downgrade. This mew mew is just an upgrade so i don't see the problem with it. I find letting you get a JusticeAxe from a raw Ch. 5 being a mistake more appaling.
Every single chapter drop and patch change is always met with loads of negativity
>>742962639you ever see the tommyknockers? there's this one part where a guy gets his arm stuck in an evil vending machine maybe something like that happened to him
>>742960164Game developers need to have the balls to make their players suffer more often. I want Toby to crank up the difficulty to near impossible levels in the next chapters. I want to feel like Ive made a critical mistake somewhere along the way or that im missing a key item thats required to progress.
>>742962179Did you laugh at the dialogue at the end? That was my question.
>>742957726check your house soon
>>742962698because people treat toby like an evil mastermind that only does things out of spite
I had an idea
>>742962637Does it matter?
>>742962087wrf what this btw?
>>742958387>He's pretty straightwell..
>>742962407Lost it in the war Douglas.Just a meme character Douglas.
>>742962741Anon, I took at as playful ribbing.
>>742962769females can never be threateningthey're jokes
>>742962574holy sex noellegotta meet /k/
Gaster is cut content from Undertale. He's not a real character. He's not gonna show up. You are an undiagnosed schizophrenic connecting patterns that aren't there.
>>742962513Maybe he should've actually done something with FRIEND sooner instead of dunking on people for caring via the Mikes.
>>742962769Your idea seem vague. Elaborate
>>742962698I mean with /v/ in particular Deltarune has been subject to Gayops for over a year now because it was a bigger deal than the switch 2 coming out and the jannies hate the game.
>>742962513to be fair she was the least integrated boss since Jevil and at least with Jevil you have his constant future references (chaos, chaos/the world revolving keep coming up) and can handwave his lack of integration into the chapter generally as just being "first installment weirdness"Spamtom, Knight/ERAM, and Gerson all had prominent appearances in their respective chapters (in ERAM's case, you have to know where to look but he's all over the sword game)Pink... runs a shop that sells the key. Her fight itself has "importance" to the themes of the story (her being a parallel for Kris/Soul with Mew Mew/Maddie) but I don't think it's unreasonable to say she wasn't as well received as the other fights
>>742961887Kris is Tank with Bodyguard
>>742962760C R I M I N A L
I was doing some thinking, what if Friend is some sort of play on the Hounds of Tindalos?They are only called "hounds" as to mask their true horrific nature. "Friend" fittingly also sounds like an incredibly unfitting name to describe whatever the fuck Friend is. The Hounds hunt down anyone who has meddled with time relentlessly.>The Pluey and minigame stuff with cats raining from the sky>There's obviously some connection between the lake and Friend>THE PLACE WHERE IT RAINED plays near the lake, with Susie and Onion even remarking about a song playing there>It's Raining Somewhere Else plays when you're talking with Sans in Undertale>Papyrus has an egg in his date, could very likely be something he got from Sans>Sans doesn't really seem to care about anything and is really good at avoiding attacks>He doesn't a lot to not call attention to himself>He's a lazy slacker who drops whatever responsibilities he has in the drop of a hat, as if he's always ready to run away at the first given chance>IT'S RAINING SOMEWHERE ELSE>Given the implications of the cat rain, this could mean Sans got Friend off his trailI mean it's rather esoteric, but what do you lads think?I also found it rather interesting, albeit very likely to be unintentional that Trouble Dingle sorta reminds me of Tindalos whenever I read it, and it's the song that plays right before Gaster's theme in Undertale.Am I going fucking insane?
>>742962769
>>742962407Doug was too strong
>>742962449>FRIEND>Final boss
>>742962359three of the holidays are together when the knight appears. Asriel is at college Tm
>>742962407He wanted to become an invalid person because he experienced dysphoria from having the priviledged body of a valid person.
>>742962698A lot of people here not-so-subtly think everything is just a distraction from a HMOFA dating sim and they hallucinate negative reception when you can look at basically any normalfag youtube poll and see the opposite
>>742962741Tell me what offended you about that fight.
>>742962769Based drawfren
>>742961887thief
>>7429626982 niggas in a closet was somehow spared from this fate despite taking ages to be patched
>>742962698People here only like the Deltarune in their heads.
>We're not even safe from Toby pushing another update that adds some contrived dialogue to EXCUSE selfish-ass Susie's shitty behavior after all the backlash.
>>742962717YES I want bullet hell instead of bullet heckYES I need to die AT LEAST once during random NPC encounters. Preferably moreYES I beat the knight Mantelless pre-nerf YES I didn't cheese MEW MEW with the dummyYES I First-Tried Jevil and Solo Spamton NEONO I don't care about underageb& retards who skip right to chapter 6
so what's the deal with pronouns? my headcanon is that Ralsei is some amalgam of Asriel and Dess memories together, possibly Dess's soul even, hence Flowery she/her'ing him, would explain how he keeps appearing without any light world item being involved
>>742962991i thought it was intentional
>>742962769Holy fucking BASED.
>>742961887Susie could also be Butcher, but that's more of a convoluted reason.>Butcher has a cleaver which is kind of like an axe>Butchers archetypes usually involve self harm for more damage>While this doesn't fit susie, it aligns with Final Fantasy Dark Knights>Toby is obviously heavily inspired by FF>Susies class in the menu in multiple instances is Dark Knight That's kind of a stretch. In a roundabout way Kris could also be Psychic.>Can command allies, often by denying themselves an action>ACTing gives access to a lot of unorthodox manipulation with the SOUL>Messes with, charms, and pacifies enemies Or maybe he's collarless. Or a jester.
Cats can see in the dark. That's why dark worlds have no effect on them.
>>742962854[Saxophone]
>playing chapter 4>recruit everyone>ring judgement bell>"you have spared everyone you could">chapter 5>town is moist>guei is not in the caféI dont even know what i did wrong
>muh Friend>muh ERAM>muh Gaster*slices potentialgoners in one iaijutsu slice*Except NormalNpc, he can stay.
>>742963008FRIEND IS A WASHED UP NOBODY LOSER!Unless Toby adds Mew mew sex scenes.
>>742962672>wake up callNot going to happen. He has ten trannies working under him. He's gonna do a TADC to get the ESG money and call it a day.
>lancer calls Noelle "they">ralsei says "them" when praying for susie>ralsei's description in chapter 5 has "their"Uhhh... Toby? What are you doing?
Why is /v/ back to doomposting about Chapter 5? It's the best one so far
>>742963043You weren't the only one and it was funny as hell to theorize why what it could mean beyond Toby being lazy
>>742963109>he listened to ralsie's hypocrite ass calling for titan blood
>>742963139Hasn't he always had trannies working for him? Since Chapter 2?
>>742963030flowery was being a shitheadasgore calls ralsei 'they' because of the lingual degradation of the english language he very clearly refers to ralsei as male in the nip translation
>>742962698This place is full of maladjusted autists, so all change is met with kneejerk meltdowns. It takes a while but they'll come to like it. Also this >>742963003 if you talk to some anons long enough, you'll soon realize that they either don't play the game, or don't really engage with it and instead hallucinate an entirely different game.
>>742962947Because it isI'm here becauase this is a mainstream HMOFA game
>>742963109you aborted the fetus with a knife and not light
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6MDGND-d3Ethe ending will 100% involve gaster saying "i made the prophecy up and it means nothing lol"
Kris has to masturbate to keep his protein low so FRIEND doesn't detect him, that's why every chapter starts with Kris doing something offscreen
>>742963124She's going to do nothing just like Asgore. She only exists to fulfill Noelle's self-confidence arc before Knight comes and kidnaps her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbKHhM6ltC8
>>742963167I'd rate it below 2, 4, and probably 3, but that's far from bad.
I wonder if the FRIEND stuff will come back to all the modded and deleted cats Noelle had.
>>742963008it's funny cause making Mew Mew fear for Kris's life just adds fuel to the Susie hate
>>742963225but kris is a girl and thus always has eggsthere is no hiding from the cat
>>742962747i get the feeling catti wouldn't actually mind as much if noelle got with kris compared to susieshe was back to talking terms with kris already by chapter 5 after saying she wouldn't talk to him anymore if 4 (which i'm surprised no one really talks about actually) so i expect she'd actually be able to get over it compared to 'the outsider' coming in and stealing the girl she likes without even trying
>>742963221>A FOUNTAIN HAS BEEN DISCOVERED!
>>742962849A deer that likes camo and rations, and hangs out in a bunker.What more could a kommando ask for.
>>742963296total barney death
>>742963191>>742963219No i did the purification, its just the ghost niggas missing, everything else acts like i did all recruits
>>742963167Shipfags malding
>you must sacrifice one egg to do the weird route until chapter 5 >proceeding passed the lake means you lose the chapter 5 egg as well
>>742963221>You know what? FUCK Deltarune!- Susie, after Kris dies and she becomes the new protagonist
>>742963008Yes, Mewmew does genuinely love Kris. Yes, Susie and Ralsei are going to die for fucking with her feelings
>>742963167Let me give you a metaphor;The taste of lakewater was far better, delicious even, in comparison to the taste of yurislop ntr cuckoldry which quite literally painted the entire dark world.
>>742963191I would love to know what happens if Ralsei doesn't follow the rules.
>>742963209>This place is full of maladjusted autists, so all change is met with kneejerk meltdownsPlease fuck off back to your Discord and take your tranny friends with you
I think it would be funny if it's revealed that FRIENDs are really just cats Gaster deployed into dark worlds
>>742962769Kris run! Ill hold them off…
>>742961501>What happened in the aftermath beyond "Asgore makes conspiracy corkboards and loses his job">What further involvement does Carol have following the incidentWere you asleep for the whole section of Asgore interacting with the flowers in the castle as an obvious analogue for how he neglected and pushed away his family leading to conflict and the divorce (as was already clearly foreshadowed in Chapter 3)Or everything in Chapters 4 and 5 establishing that Asgore thinks he's working together with Carol to solve the mystery of the Dark Worlds but she's obviously just using him at this point while she investigates and operates out of the Shelter alone keeping him in the dark about The Real Plan (and, to his credit, he's also playing dumb and sneaking around in her room to try to find her Shelter code behind her back).
>>742962198I love this niggaHe talks about completing the mission like gaster personally hired him and gave him $25 to get the job done. I respect the dedication to the RP
>>742963409
what am I missingI just saw the friend update on yutu, why the fuck is everyone saying the spamton is in hiding, and somehow this dialogue makes friend some sort of gaster´s hitmanwhat the fuck is friend anyway, anywayI just saw him during eram fight
>>742963139>comparing Deltarune to Digital Circus instead of Homestuck >not knowing how ESG worksWay to out yourself, Xitter tourist >>742963198Correct, Celeste composer helped with the soundtrack, specifically Attack of the Killer Queen
>>742963191>proceeds to not let you attackDon't make rpgs if you don't like them
>>742962549the knight's gonna be masked eventually so I'll agree with you on that. gotta disagree on explicitly though. we already knew there was some sort of incident based on what the other characters have told us which is why so many people are kvetching so it feels like a regurgitation
>>742962698What really boggles me are the faggots who post that "Fans want every chapter to be Susie Gaster" image, as if I'm supposed to feel ashamed that I want the story to move forward with each installment.
>>742963213You don't actually like Deltarune.
>>742962198>t.
>>742963328catti would probably be cool with it because she knows about kris and noelle's history together, them not dating is probably more of a surprise to the town than if they werehell, the whole mini arc with susie and catti started because catti wanted kris to protect noelle from susie
>>742963121how long until toby just makes deltarune check for umineko save data on your computer and prevents you from playing until you prove you're not a secondary
>>742961602The chapters hits you over the head that he's comepletely in love with Susie. You can miss Minikris and other krusie events but you can't skip the walking home with Susie ending of chapter 5. Its also hinted when you fight Floradin to show the real meaning of love and Kris is too embarassed to show it in front of Susie
>>742959627Mew Mew is better
>>742963380you know Toby screwed up badly when the flowers and everything that happened in flower king is forgotten after a week and the weird route is dominating discussion
>>742963523Doesn't matter. You take what you do like. I like the music and kriselle
>>742963489>strengthedNopeChapter 5 references something that's already been removed with Kris' status>Shattered Rose
>>742963471The point of that image is that the REAL story did move forward, not the fanfic in your head.
>>742963198I'm just going based on when spite appears first which is the Mike Room.Chapter 2's only good part is the weird route but his yesmen team must have told him it's the skippable Suselle scene.
>>742962442>It's terryfing to know that...No it isn't.
>>742963637>Chapter 2's only good part is the weird routeman you guys are fucking faggots
>>742963328>i get the feeling catti wouldn't actually mind as much if noelle got with kris compared to susieI think she actually senses that if Susie and Noelle get close, it will be dangerous for Noelle. And that's exactly what will happen. Susie is already inviting her to get involved in this mess.
>>742963489>You like good things but you don't like bad things?>Um, wow, just, wow.
>>742963637We still think the mike room was out of Spite?
>>742963523You sound like the kind of guy who says you don't like the game if you mod it, go fuck yourself
>>742959950Objectively Seam was gaslighting Kris here right? There's no way anyone could have stolen the mantle considering nobody can enter and leave the Castle Town but Lightners, let alone...It was Friend wasn't it, it was Friend who stole it
>>742963670what's your favorite part?
>>742963572you're proving his point retard
>>742963562>Toby fucked up because a some retarded mongoloids who never actually played the game online continue to want to masturbate to a character they've been masturbating to for nearly 10 years now
>>742963221>>742963370inspiration struck
I think Deltarune will have an Emio type ending where the player must decide how they feel about the conclusion
>>742962672he literally said chapter 5 was gonna be a for fun chapter, chapter 6 and 7 are obviously going to be the heavy hitters. chapter 5 was also suppose to release with 3 and 4. you faggots are so retarded.
>>742963529
>>742963489I mean the former attempts to add context to something already present while the latter can actually affect the scene's meaning
>>742961602A terminal case of oneitis. Give up on him, he's fucked.
>>742957656So how much of deltarune is still Toby’s “original vision”? Between all the references and jokes toward schizo theorists, ch5 nostalgia constant baiting of chapter 1, the removal of the rose scene, mew mew randomly getting heavy lore implications through an update, and just the simple fact that Toby now has to negotiate with a team it feels like any “pure” deltarune has been heavily altered at this point
>>742963529why would i play jap trash
>>742963772>having the player decide how to feelThe game has never done that, it has forced opinions on you constantly
>>742959627>>742963560Let's be real.Spamton would absolutely encourage Kris to [Hyperlink Blocked] that [limited collector's edition].
>>742963124She couldn't even get Susie arrested for breaking into the church lol
>>742960157>You never see Papyrus because he has an egg>He was hiding from Friend
>>742962698Autistic people hate changeAntisocial paranoid schizophrenics think that indie game developers have a personal vendetta against them, and are waiting to impulsively change their magnum opus in response to the hot memes slandering them on MY twitter feed
>>742963014>YES I didn't cheese MEW MEW with the dummyThe dummy is ass since it had it's 40% cat defense nerfed to 20%. You're better off using Dealmaker and True TIe.
>>742963612>REAL story did move forward>Kris is a zombie without SOVL (we knew this)>guys... susie is like... in love? (we knew this)>Asgore had a fountain exposure pre ralsie during The Incident(tm) (We knew this except for the timeline)>That Fateful Date(tm) is what broke the family (we knew this)>Ralsie is a gigaknower with meta powers (we knew this)>Heavily implied susie is delusional but writing so dogshit it's hard to tell if we will get picrel what else did i miss?
>>742963523>To like something you have to like all of it, no exceptionHow can we get rid off these kinds of people from all media discussion forever
>>742963829None. It was supposed to be varik jr and 2 other heroes going to the different world to beat the fountain bosses until its time to take down the knight himself
>>742963829"Pure" Deltarune was never gonna be the case. We've known that for a while. The Queen we have now was not the Queen Toby initially came up with
They need that PROTEINKris, they will die without that PROTEIN
>>742958685
>>742963767Truth nuke. Weird route fags are 90% secondaries
>>7429638290%. We never got the "original vision" period because he immediately gave up on it to create Undertale instead, which subsequently and massively influenced Chapter 1.
>>742962574/k/ris
>>742963897>Asgore had a fountain exposure pre ralsie during The Incidenti didn't know
>>742963470If you actually pay attention you got a shitload of new information>>742961739
>>742963767you sound like you're angry that the weird route is more interesting than the normal route. are you okay?
>>742964032
>>742963897weirdchads won bigly however
>>742963956by that logic we didn't get pure undertale either
>>742962698Because this is one of the few places on the internet where you're allowed to voice a negative opinion.
>>742963829deltarune outside of it's ending never had an original vision, idk why people keep saying that everything was preplanned. the only thing toby said he had was the ending in mind. everything before the ending is basically fresh.
When did deltarune become a "wait for things to happen to you" gameThat doesn't sound like the Legend of Delta Rune where it sounds like you're supposed to be making things happen
>>742963767>>742964001Seriously nigga? The game revolves around Noelle.
>>742963471i wouldn't mind so much if they didn't act like it was a gotcha to the people who wanted something major to happen and not the deepest loremasters wanting FRIEND fights or whateveri think it's perfectly fair that people wanted the tone of chapter 4 to continue with big story beats instead of having what is outright intended to be a lighthearted filler chapter, but somehow that ends up getting conflated with WHERE'S MUH GASTERand besides, the patch adding one such event says even toby thinks he missed a beat
>>742962407He saw the face of God.
>>742964069the LUDO is the main thing keeping me interested at this point
>>742964042if you've been paying attention to the game you would realize these are things we already knew
Wake up, little nigga.
>>742964078That doesn't address the point of his question. Just being able to voice a negative opinion doesn't mean anything. He's asking why.
>>742958998imagine if it turned out that she just left because asriel raped her and the dark world things was just an entirely separate thing
>>742963685I think it was made of spite yes, and also for giving something to do to the team. In any case, it felt very not like Toby at the time. But now it's clear that Toby and his team are one and the same.
nigga heil gaster
>>742963829Original Deltarune died the moment Undertale was created
Uuuuuh......https://litter.catbox.moe/3nkq2zdqvxnhve45.mp4
THEYRE EATING MY FLESH
>>742963964drown newborn catscats are a plague
>>742963829>Toby now has to negotiate with a teamthere is no evidence that toby is negotiating with the writing of deltarune, he is still credited as the only writer for it. gameplay maybe but definitely not the writing. the most negotiating is play testers not liking spamton but he went with spamton anyways. do you guys think he has no power in his own IP.
>>742962760the man behind the deltarune
>>742964230THEY'RE EATING HIMAND THEN THEY'RE GUNNA EAT ME!OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!
>>742963780>he literally said chapter 5 was gonna be a for fun chapterAnd?Chapter 3 was also a "for fun chapter", and yet it gave us more new info than chapter 5 did prior the patchRevealing more concrete info that expands the story and having a chapter being a fun adventure is not mutually exclusive You could cut out normal route entirely from chapter 5 and the amount of new info we learned about the lore wouldn't change much
>>742963612>fanfic in your headIMAX level projection. Filling in gaps with your personal headcanon as opposed to definitive answers is why you mystery box niggers want everything to be vague.
>>742964171Don't forgetI'm with you in the dark
>>742963829“Pure” deltarune would have had all the lightners be humans who become monsters in the dark world but that was changed due to undertale. At this point I’m pretty sure the only things actually remain from that original dream are (most of) the weird route and whatever fucked up ending Toby has cooking up
>>742963829Do you guys actually think the Chapter 1 parallels are supposed to be "nostalgia bait" on the basis of it coming out a few years agoand not just retreading setpieces from the beginning of the story to show how the characters and their dynamic have changed since then, now that we're approaching the endare you guys stupid or something?
The friends will play a similar role to the goats from umineko
>>742963670Chapter 2 has long since attracted the same demographic of people who would say that Genocide was the only good part of Undertale and then go on to make a million billion Sans AUs
>>742962698if you want mindless praise for every piece of shit that falls out of toby's asshole, feel free to migrate to reddit or discord. 4chan is for people who can think for themselves
>>742964252God, could you imagine if we lived in a non-Spamton world? Thank goodness Toby has some backbone left.
>>742964228I don't get it
how long intil a schizophrenic deltarune fan kills himself and we get some proof of it?
>>742964001Not playing WR is like the consensus majority opinion from Discord, X, Reddit, YouTube. So the 90% of players that only play NR are secondaries, yes.
>>742964168Really? You knew Asgore had seen the knight and it's been operating for years before the start of the game and that Kris didn't make the fountain where it was first seen?
>>742961501>Who was involvedThe children>Where it wasWhere the forest would grow>What happened in the aftermath beyond "Asgore makes conspiracy corkboards and loses his job"The children sought therapy>What further involvement does Carol have following the incidentShe was investigating it, plausibly because of DessYou already have answers to this
>>742964359You're just projecting the fact that you're mad you can't stop people from liking the game despite how much you scream at people online that they have to hate it for no real reason.
>>742964252>do you guys think he has no power in his own IP.considering he hired the woman who stole skullgirls, not really
>>742964073And that's the thing, most if not all games are like that. Scrapped ideas, unused content, some sort of change that retroactively affects the stuff prior. They're usually some sort of compromise down the line no matter how big or small
>>742964228Can someone check if this is CP cause I don't wanna open this
>>742964348Deltarune was lacking in the edgy schizo department (jevil auditioned for what it's worth) and Spamton went all in
>>742964401CoL will be the first
>>742964348Toby loves AU Sans and people making them, though.
>>742961739>>Dess went missing in a dark world, Asgore went insideThis wasn't confirmed. If anything, Noelle in the Weird Route implies Dess simply ran away from Hometown. MAYBE she saw something in the Dark World that spooked the shit out of her paranoid ass and convinced her Hometown was built on cursed ground, but she was not confirmed to have went missing in a Dark World.>>He saw the Knight and couldn't find Dess, assumed knight was responsibleHe never shows any recognition towards the Knight.>>The dark world where this happened was a different color than Flower world (So Kris didn't make it)Where the fuck did you intuit this from? No one says anything like this.>>Asgore told people about it, but nobody believed him and he couldn't find the fountain again for proof(meaning someone else can seal them)Sealing Dark Fountains has never been implied to be a Kris-only thing, it's just what Da Rulez want him to do, the same way he was originally the only character who could ACT until Susie pointed out how retarded that is. Didn't you learn better when Queen said ALL Lightners have the determination to create fountains? Why would they not have the determination to seal them just as well?>>Asgore tore his family apart acting crazy over something that sounded like fantasy, and felt responsible for Dess's disappearance even though there was nothing he could have doneWe already knew this because we've known about his conspiracy board for a long while now.
>>742964389Once the pink singing cat is killed cats start attacking you.
>>742964361i think you have to realize that toby has a lot of backbone and that is the main reason faggots get up in arms about any and all changes he makes. he keeps doing it regardless of any backlash, probably because it's his game and he want's it to be his vision.
>Asgore had a mental breakdown>Rudy became deathly ill >Catti's dad lost an armWHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED ON THAT CAMPING TRIP???
NO, I DON'T WANT THAT!NOELLE FINDING ANOTHER MAN?!I WANT HER TO THINK ABOUT ME AND NO ONE ELSE FOR THE REST OF MY LIFEEEEEEVEN AFTER I DIE, I WANT TO BE AT THE FRONT OF HER MIND FOR TEN YEARS AT LEAST!!
>Cats hate water>The only way to escape FRIEND is the lakeI'M GOING CRAZY
>>742964401Let's see if all those whiners saying they'd kill themselves if Deltarune turns out to be shit will make good on it.>>742964450No, he has too much to live for (defending Israel on twitter)
>>742964413yes because I have the ability to put context clues together
>>742964486based FREEDOM poster
>>742964486>noelle>being into men
>>742964476You're saying this right after he gave us a new FRIEND loredrop because he couldn't handle the bants.
>>742964487>he thinks he's escaping FRIEND
DONT FORGETIM WITH YOU IN THE DARK
>>742964425>LEAVE TOBY ALONE!!!!Nigga why are you here? Do you need directions?And fyi I liked chapter 5. Who's projecting now you fucking retard lmao
>>742964476>toby has a lot of backbone
>>742964359>4chan is for people who can think for themselves4chan is the #1 "conformists pretending to be contrarian" site
gaster is definitely a crazy old cat lady pirate.
>>742959617>Noelle was breeding horrible glitch cats>Noelle is the only one that accepted Spamton's giftWe need a Chapter 0. So much of the story, down to the background schizo lore, is entirely dependent on whatever games the Dreemurr and Holiday kids larped into existence.
>>742964481>fell into a dark world by accident (shelter)>friend was looking for some protein and bit his arm>Asgore only realized what it was until way after>Rudy became part Darkner from ingesting a black shard and he passed it on to Dess
>>742964607The doe was never actually raped because she was completely willing the whole way through, it was Kris who was raped.
>>742964563>because he couldn't handle the bantsyou are making heavy assumptions, why would he also add new parameters to check flags corresponding to save files in the same update he added egg lore. an item you have to go out of your way to find. your reasoning makes no fucking sense, this is all clearly planned.
>>742964624Mmm nice hooves
Is Spamton the greatest antagonist ever written?
Are we gonna treat FRIEND seriously or is it just a meme for a week before we realise Toby was hyping just some minor chapter 6 villains on the level of SweetCapNCake?
>>742964563>Toby was hiding because the SPICS finally defeated hi- *got flushed by Chapter *
>>742964406>People that actually played the game are secondaries unlike me who watched DELTARUNE WEIRD ROUTE ALL CUTSCENES on youtube and masturbate to pictures of noelle and scream at people that the game isn't entirely about her and this somehow means Toby is writing it wrong
>>742964228>but we can't kill mewmewdisappointing
Mike is a cat that branched off from the FRIEND Amalgamation. He was later re-assimilated.
>>742964634>green>pirate>cat ladyhow many more dumb modifiers is this mf gonna get
>>742964634Kek
>>742964472>He never shows any recognition towards the Knight.Did you miss the part where he says he wants to hang that Knigger and parade its body in the street somehow?>Where the fuck did you intuit this from? No one says anything like this.Asgore looks at his arm and comments it's a different color, he even has a sprite for it
>>742964563You're mad because Tony gave an answer to a question that contradicted your headcanon.
>>742962513Shockingly when you build your entire game around mystery boxes people are eventually going to want to see what’s in the box and adding MORE boxes is just going to piss people off
>>742964657If it was planned, why didn't he include all of this from the start?
>>742964634Toby is so far down the woke deep end I could totally see him making WD Gaster a foid to own the chuds
>>742961248NIGGGGAAAAA READ THE THREAD
>messing with weirdGODSReminder that Toby made THREE ARG over two years for a 5 minute ludo cutscene
>>742959617>>742959684No one else matters
>>742962513DONT PUT YOUR FINAL SECRET BOSS IN TWO ROOMS OF THE GAME WITH NO ELABORATION
>>742964476>toby has a lot of backboneWhat are you even basing this on?Everything you can learn about Toby points towards the contrary.
>>742962513At the end of the day, this is a bandaid fix.This isolated scene doesn't change the fact that Mewmew is fundamentally not an effective schizoboss.And in fact, this sudden ominous warning jarringly juxtapose against her past characterization in a deeply unflattering way.This seems more like the Dev crudely using the character as a mouthpiece rather than anything the vapid, affection-obsessed Mewmew would say or even know about.I reiterate. Mewmew is not a good Schizo. Her 'madness' is not compelling or memorable.She has no substantial presence in her Darkworld.The secret knowledge she alludes to makes no sense to be coming from her.She's miniboss material. At best.This was, is - and barring substantial rewrites - will remain true.I will die on this hill.
>>742964824Doesn't really change much
Normal NPC
>>742964695It's funny that the Spanish translation drama has gotten completely memoryholed now
Stop bullying Toby about vagueposting and instead bully him for not letting us do a dating mini game with Susie. I'm sick of lesbians cockblocking me from bushy purple monster puss.
>>742964472>Noelle in the Weird Route implies Dess simply ran away from HometownDess might have "left" as opposed to being "taken" but it's absurd to suggest her disappearance is entirely mundane and she just ran awayDid Noelle's idea of "leaving town [like Dess]" being "noclipping into Chapter 7" not clue you in on that?>Sealing Dark Fountains has never been implied to be a Kris-only thingLol?Yeah anyone could have that divine light in their SOUL that comes from You and is explicitly identified as "YOUR POWER"
>>742964810>include it from the start>people datamine the games code>avoid getting items because now the game is checking for things you could have gotten in save filesvs>let people play the game normally>they do what they've always done and play how they always have>make an update that now locks people into their choices right before the last 2 chapters
>>742964810You try making a game of this scale, then tell us all how quick and easy it is.
>>742964857>>742962513I hope you guys are ready for FRIEND to be introduced and defeated in 1 room in the side area of a dark world, with maybe ~3 minutes of dialogue just like MewMew."You're the ones who said you didn't like waiting years, you wanted this" -Tobiathan Foxtrot
I want to jerk off to Noelle holiday
>>742964918>just SusieDon't forget about Noelle, she's an option too.
>>742964325>are you guys stupid or something?yes
>>742963529>already thought Gaster was Bern and ERAM was Erika>update reveals the fucked up cat was a whole bloodthirsty spy network the entire timeUmiCHADs can't stop winning
If Toby is a spineless hack who caves to outside pressure then how come Spamton NEO remained unchanged despite his entire team of playtesters hating him?
>Toby writes Mike bit in Chapter 3/4 shitting on anyone looking too hard into hardly mentioned characters, even explicitly ridiculing FRIEND posters>Releases chapter 5 with hardly any new FRIEND material>Seethes at fanbase for not caring about FRIEND anymore so hard he retcons a loredump to pump up the theorycrafting he hated previously
>>742964751>Did you miss the part where he says he wants to hang that Knigger and parade its body in the street somehow?Yeah, when he's vagueposting about "the one who opened this fountain". He doesn't mention anything about it being the Knight. If he saw the Knight, he'd refer to it more directly by its armored appearance or something. Instead, it sounds like he's never encountered the culprit at all.>Asgore looks at his arm and comments it's a different color, he even has a sprite for itI'll concede on this one, I forgot about that. The original Dark Fountain probably wasn't opened by the Knight at all, then, or its mindset and will were incredibly different prior to the game's start.
>>742964962>friend is just a minigame in the MIKE room with spiteful dialogue
>>742964918Holy basedKrusieGODS will be the only ones who Kris cooperates with in ch6
So what was this about
>>742964624Only because sheep mentality has been so bad lately Reddit and Discord shitters come here
>>742964859the same person that refuses to translate the game into other languages btw
>>742964963Kris...
>>742962513Its so fucking gay.>why tf does mew mew have the freedom motif>wait her lyrics... underwater? is this referring the weird route?>official lyrics come out and everyone was wrong as fuck>...>why tf does mew mew have the freedom motifThis is literally extreme damage control for FRIEND being a fraud, mewmew not fitting the themes of the other secret bosses, and NormalNPC being Gaster's top soldier now
>Btw friend>Hype rollbacks to launch weekend state
>>742964652She doesn't work at the gym or eat properly. Where is the meme about her being ripped came from? She's just a Nelson tier potato
>>742965006Spamton NEO is fundamentally too important. I mean obviously he's supposed to be creepy and unsettling, anyway. He is the absolute lynchpin set piece of all set pieces in Deltarune.
>>742964419those are vague allusions to answers. They're no more actual answers than asgore's "ough Kris.... that awful day..." speech. Not even Toby, the hack who wrote this "prose", is hack enough to accept those as real, true answers
>>742964695>>742964914Funny, considering the spanish patch is about was about to release until the game suddently updated with more content today
>>742965040Something under the town
>>742965040a joke with no meaning
>>742957656so wtf am i supposed to do with this?
>>742965074this entire fucking chapter feels like a fangame
>>742965010Have you considered the possibility that this isn't what happened and it only seems contradictory because you're attributing false motivations to his actions? Of course you haven't.
>>742964476where were you when the wilting rose got removed? you definitely weren't playing the game
>>742964963Carol...
>>742964563>he couldn't handle the bants.You mean a bunch of teen beaners shitting themselves to death because he wouldn't give them a Google translated slop version of his game to pirate?
>>742965040mario & luigi superstar saga
>>742965130Hide it
>>742965130hold onto it tight and dont let go. its evidence, after all.
>>742965097Nigger the literal only way you could be lost as to what Asgore is talking about is if you didn't play the game.
>>742965039>KrusieGODS will be the only ones who Kris cooperates with in ch6Sure krusienigger
>>742965040They're coming out of the pipes.
>>742965010LMAOUnfortunately I have to agree with the Mikefag. Whats with this cope patch?
>>742965172jp version isn't accurate either
>>742965040There's a creepy connection between ICE E and Noelle. On Side B the Ice E sign changes to start making Noelle's contorted manic face. The Ice E costume is in her basement. Dess once burned an ICE E pizza box to somehow protect Noelle from it. This scene suggests Kris flushed the bath bombs because Kris believes ICE E is underneath hometown. Kris was once again trying to protect Noelle.
>>742965006They probably hated that he says a lot without saying nothing and most of his dialogue come off as nonsense, the thing is, they didn't have the insight Toby had when he made him
>>742964963What's stopping you?
>>742964634Pirate Gaster is just really fucking funny
>>742964963your time is coming vessel you'll have the real thing soon
okay are we really acting like the same toby "leaves susie yelling kris' name at the beginning of chapter 1 in the code" fox, mister robert "leave a guitar string playing in the code of chapter 4 when a mystery person in the dark touches kris' hand" fox himself is going out of his way to add things in LATE to avoid dataminers?? this dude adds shit in EARLY if anything
>>742964914>Spanish translation dramaqrd? i dont give a fuck about LatinX (x specifically because it insults them)
>>742965154Present an alternative.
>>742962074even a small change like this matters when you don't have much free space to move in
>all this shitting over FRIEND when we still don't even know the motivations of our protagonist and antagonist>it's to such an egregious degree that people aren't even sure if the antagonist is actually the antagonist because we know more about the schizo faggotry than we do the actual antagonist
>>742965293latine hurts them more
>>742964898It changes the trajectory of Gaster fan art
It's a long way to nowhereAnd I'm leaving very soonOn the way we pass so closeTo the back side of the moonHey, join the travellerIf you got nowhere to goHang your head and take my handIt's the only road I knowOh, lonely is the wordYeah, yeah, yeah
>>742965224When do we get kriselle deltarune
>>742965283you realize this only strengthens the argument, he adds shit he WANTS us to see. so leaving something out and adding it later is obviously something he only wants us to see later.
>>742965010toby forgot
What does a Pipis taste like tho
>>742965207tell me where Asgore said where it was. Go ahead, show the exact line of text.You can think it's the Shelter. You can claim it to be anywhere. Because nowhere does it SAY where it is. Asgore doesn't even say "where the forest would grow" because you're making it up
>>742965040The darkness Flowery mentions.
>>742965315We are in the Bargaining Phase. We just went through Denial and Anger.Next comes Depression, then Acceptance that Toby didn't leave himself enough time to give any part of this narrative closure.Most of the shit that happens in ch6 and ch7 will have had 4x more setup than payoff.
>>742965283People idolize Toby, he's one of the last great "untouchable" creators and a big part of that is how much he restrains himself from putting his information out there. So they'd prefer an "all according to keikaku" answer rather than the more straightforward (and more human) answer of "Toby noticed the schizo portion of the fanbase was disappointed so he threw them some red meat to raise their spirits".
i still dont care about POTENTIAL DANGERsorry not sorry, toby. maybe when he actually does something.
>>742965237>>742965283No dude Toby was embarrassed by ME, personallyHe's totally SEETHING about the spicy NormalNPC memes I posted in his replies on Twitter
>>742965282Dude give up on the vessel it is too late to matter
>>742965408stupid change that amounts to nothing
>>742965040
>>742965040ICE-E eats children.
>Deltarune turns out to be a simulation>None of the characters are real>Gaster created it to teach you a lesson about escapism (It's bad)Your repartee?
>>742965423you have misapplied this meme normalfag
>>742965315>all this shitting over FRIEND when we still don't even know the motivations of our protagonist and antagonistbecause it's a timeloop and we are not aware of that fact yet and kris tries to hide it from us
>>742965423>He's totally SEETHING about the (general fanbase consensus that FRIEND is a fraud) on TwitterYes.
>>742964825I do, but American hours are unbearable.Too fast, too much retardation and too many tranny Toby cocksuckers that got linked here from Discord.
>>742965415>implying Carol has actually done anything either except for being a generic classist bitch mom who doesn't want her prim and proper daughter going out with the butch trash girl
>>742965468Then I don't need to care about his charactersI can say whatever I like about them
>>742965468the entire cast goes off my do-not-lewd list and the game becomes just another tag.
>>742965367Next chapter
>>742965368Exactly, the whole fucking point was that he wanted us to pay special attention to this dialogue and not have it get drowned out in the release day frenzy.
>>742965040>Those shapes are Ice-Es.>Dark Ice.> "Bitter tears. And from the water something emerged. It looked like glass.">In the pipes.>"I- I'm sorry I shouldn't have said that, but the pipes had to go somewhere. They all have to go somewhere."There is a massive darkworld underneath Hometown.It encompasses the entire town's sewer network, the bottom of the Lake, and possible also the Shelter.
>>742965408schizos are the ones keeping the discussion going months to years in advance gotta give them something while we WAIT
>>742965486twitter is sucking his dick but acknowledges that toby had tears in his eyes writing the nuDialogue
>>742965468"It was all a dream" endings are so shit. Toby is a hack but he's not that much of a hack.
>no bro despite toby leaving in unused dialogue and content in the game files he knows people will datamine>he would NEVER add in code later to avoid being datamined on chapter release, no sir that could never be the case
>>742965485Bow about we have an actual adventure instead of that nonsense
>>742965415>Didn't even arrange for the cops to arrest Susie for breaking into a church over Susie taking her daughter to the festival after she forbade it Fraud mayor lol
I think we should agree that Toby was too focused on the yuriCRAP and forgot to add it
>>742965543>my do-not-lewd listWhat are you, gay?
>>742965449the vessel is the one cope I will never give up on
>>742964587>>742964918We all know how a relationship with Susie would really go.
>>742965040I'm all in on "Kris flushed a bunch of bath bombs down the toilet that one time and this is a representation of that"
>>742965614it's a meta narrative game, why are you trying to play this like a normal jprg
>>742965636do not besmirch /u/'s good name by lumping in chapter 5 light world dialogue with it
>>742964624>4chan is the #1 "conformists pretending to be contrarian" siteThat's always the feeling I get when people glaze Chapter 2 the hardest, easily the safe pick for people that don't like the game as a whole but want something to pretend-like so they don't look biased, of course resulting in so many people doing this that it's no longer even the contrarian option
>>742965615Nobody knows Susie did it. Alvin isn't even mad about it because he thinks the Angel did it.
What about pic related? Is it part of the ERAM group?
>>742965684That's just the mother of all monsters.
>>742965650>cuckshit
>>742965604if you're gonna seacats larp at least use the soulful sprites
>>742965669Because the idol worshippers that are the fanbase treat it as the best jrpg ever
>>742965678To be fair the fact that (you) are here means it is a little less hivemindey
>>742965650Professional cumbrains have standards.
>>742965378>Asgore didn't cock his head directly at the screen and say <Player Name> what happened where is X and Y on the youtube video I watched wtfAnd this is why talking to you is pointless.
>>742965730
>>742965684that's just one of the dark world placeholder monsters when you try to make a fountain in a room with jack shit in it so it has to make shit up
>>742965684Green and purple like Jevil and Spamton's right wing. It's not totally empty imagery but i don't know if it will be a full character. It could be a generic "darker than dark" darkner in the depths. A point at which darkners are no longer based on objects, but rather primordial emotions, mainly fear.
>>742965678I didn't really like chapter 2, even when it came out, between those stupid DJ characters and noelle. does that make me a nonconformist? am i cool anon
>>742965486Shonenspic powerscalers have been spamming "ROARING FRAUD" memes to this day and you think "when is this cat gonna do something" is what got under his skin
>>742965614You got one and you called it filler anyway. You people can never decide what you want.
i don't think there's any dev that people imagine being constantly angry as toby
>>742965669And because meta shit is hard to sell to my audience they want an adventureThey want the Legend of Delta Rune and so do i
>>742965753literally no one treats this game as the best jrpg ever, one of the most retarded criticisms is people thinking that the game is trying to be a jrpg first and asking for better rpg systems when the game could of been any other genre in existence and nothing would change
>>742965468>"yeah faggot the moral of Deltarune is that escapism is bad, now fuck off and reincarnate as a child or something">falls into the core
We're so far away from this being the biggest point of discussion now, huh?
>>742964325>Have changedSure, but nothing we did changed anything. Just because something changes doesn't mean that it's changing for the better. Both routes point that out; at least with the weird route there's actual agency for Kris and (You). All the setpieces trying to show how much Susie "changed" are immediately thrown out by the fact she consistently forgets about Kris's feelings.All the pieces about Ralsei "changing" are undermined by the fact he still has no agency.None of it mattered, no fun was had, and it was an empty send-off to nothing because Toby can't help himself but to hyper-fixate on yuri NTRslop.The only actual thing worth even remembering from the chapter was the final boss: a stand-in for Frisk, representing how the pacifist route is not going to work for a better ending-- and the weird route, which is horrifyingly beautiful but just too fucking short.
>>742965846Meta shit is like 90% of the appeal of these games. He announced Deltarune by RPing as Gaster (Mr. MetaShit himself).
>>742965669console players can't datamine
>>742965838you don't understand, toby was FURIOUS and SPITEFUL when he implemented the boss with the cat petting mechanic
>>742965846then leave, the meta narrative nature of deltarune is literally what deltarune is about, go play literally any other jrpg
>>742965831I get the impression that isn't the roaring knight's final form.It will sprout wings.
>>742965831>powerscalingslop like the end sequence of chapter 5's dark worldvs.>presumably important narrative character being de-hyped by the dayyour brown skin is showing
>>742965834It's not an adventure if the fountain was literally created to stall for time until the knight shows upI don't want a "wait for things to happen to you" game for the Legend of Delta Rune
>>742965898Only twitter gives a shit about this trans ralsei retardation, a few twitter jeets tried to bring it up here to get screencaps for their engagement and nobody even replied it was pretty funny.
>>742965056He was probably molested by a latinx, sorry anon it's not personal.
>>742965684THE HANDJOB KING
>>742965898I unironically believe the trans ralsei discussion was what prompted Toby to make this update.
>>742965678during the 1st week of Chapter 5's release there was this youtuber that was getting aggressively shilled here, like 2 different videos about why Chapter 3+4 sucks and why Chapter 5 sucks and that's what I'm reminded ofI want an actual spicy opinion, I want someone to tell me why they think Chapter 1 or 3 was the best or why Chapter 2 was the worst (I actually like Chapter 2 the 2nd most)
>>742965937no one give a fuck about console players, if toby did he would not leave in unused content that is plot relevant.
>>742965721>threesome is cuckshit
>>742965898Don't worry about it.Don't know why, but thinking about Ralsei paralleling Noelle in the normal route complete with thorns makes me angry.
>he was literally having a boner in canonHow is Toby not just a pervert?
>>742965040Ice-E is a fictional character to a fictional world. Asriel drove the Ice-E van somewhere that became a dark world, The guy in the hospital ranting about white wizards and fisting things, and the dinosaur with the box//bag over his head escaped from that place after being created by someone as variations on the idea. The cube Ice-Es are spammed copies of the original design in that space via pipis, which is how lancer and spamton were making copies of themselves (Lancer is on his way to achieving freedom and will likely be the only one to truly do so, becoming sans or something I dont know)
>>742965950You can't find those anymoreThey don't make them like they used to
>>742966034Hey at least he gave us cool dynamic borders.
>>742965943The trashy fight? ABSOLUTELY FUMINGNew lore dialogue? INDESCRIBABLE RAGE
>>742966043>Threesome Polygamy is fucking Ultra NTR, where each side NTR's one another, don't you get it?
There's barely any new female Kris art. Not enough people are into cuckqueaning.
>>742965415why the long face?
We are five chapters in. What do we ACTUALLY know about the kris/the knight’s plan?
>>742966062he is. he puts his Yuri fetish in our faces non stop
>>742966106ok well thats true
ERAM being female can't be correct because prince of darkness Then again trans ralsei also fucks with thatAnd lancer just isn't a factor for that part of the prophecy despite being a prince from a darkner king. Too goofy to give a shit.
>>742965468>>742965537>>742965543>>742965596I don't understand this>"Darkners are REAL people to">Yeah, I agree Susie!> -Toby reveals that Light World is another fiction layer->CRINGE, IT WAS ALL FAKE AND GAY. IT WASN'T REAL
>>742966029Is Chapter 3 really that reviled? It absolutely blew out the others for me personally. It's the one where I felt the most free to explore, and felt the most rewarded for doing so. Most of the characters were also at their most likable and the music fucking banged.
>>742965368except the one time he's done that he did it 2 hours after, with the 'under the lake' answers in the emails, not two weeks (and one day) later casually thrown onto something that was already there, with several hotfix patches between themif he wanted 'special attention' drawn to it, he'd have done it earlier
>>742966034then why did he release a console versionundertale got exclusive content
>>742965021Asgore's notes talk about the knight but I guess it's easy to miss
>>742965898if the pink and blue (kris) drink means ralsei is trans then that means kris is 100% a girl with no room for argument sorry, i didn't make these rouxls
>>742958267I really like Flowery but Spamton and Undertale Asgore surpass him
>>742966062He is. Toby "King of Ero Games" Fox just knows how to be classy about it when it's not yurishit.
>>742966156>JUST REVEAL THE CHAPTER WEIRD ROUTE BEFORE IT COMES OUTyou are fucking retarded
>>742965224Chapter 6 looks like the ultimate path crossroads between Krusie and Kriselle if Noelle replaces Ralsei.
>>742965449Have faith, it's returning in Chapter 7.
>>742965468leave negative review on steam
>>742965898It's just transfemRalseitards missing the forest for the trees as usual.
>>742966149>Is Chapter 3 really that reviled? People here STILL whine about getting S-Ranks btw
>>742966121Any piece of art where kid Kris acts like Aqua can be considered Fem Kris.
>>742966043Susie will be the dominant one in the relationship. Kris will always be third wheel.
>>742965449It is 100% coming back dude I bet you ten thousand dollars
>>742966147haha yeahif only the paragon of this thought process didn't accidentally forget everything she said
I find it so funny how we are the only ones distinctly screwed by the prophecy stuff as the monster and prince of darkness are more interchangeable despite them having a couple gender caveats
>>742966161money
>>742965846If you take away the mysteries then there is not much left to retain an audience.What?Newgrounds minigames?Tumblr-bait characters?Quirky punny writing?None of it is good enough to stand alone, you need a solid, unexpected hook.Undertale had its routes.Deltarune apparently only has mystery boxes.
>>742965507>"""""classist""""">when she is literally protecting her daughter from dangerI want my right-wing 4chan back
>>742966207what the fuck are you on about?
>>742966262nice
>>742966272Post the one where they kiss
>>742966251the mini games are really fun though. I really wanted to replay the cooking one in castle town too and the shooting one and whatever Ralsei rancher was
>>742966251Now imagine if he kept the city board, people would've lost their minds
>>742966287HMOFA
>>742966062>he was literally having a boner in canonSusie will be the dominant one in the relationship. Kris will always be third wheel.
>>742966271The Pink battle told you the Vessel grew into his own person. That is Kris.
>>742966272being forgotten must be nice
>>742966308I know right? I'm basically getting Loli Kris content for free.
>>742965898Isn't Pink&blue just means Ralsei loves Susie and Kris?
>>742959426I guess even Toby knew Pink was the lamest secret boss because she had no schizo shit
>>742966215please. please. i don't care if it's as schizo super boss with us vs the fun gang or if we actually get to use it at the end of the game. i just want to use it and fight someone with it
>>742965368>>742965556Mew Mew's explanation doesn't even do anything besides hinting at a connection between the eggs and FRIEND. It's just more hyping up for the sake of hyping up.
>>742966215Chapter 7 is too late the damage has already been done and you can't do anything of vaiue by them
>>742965898Literally nobody except dr-philips-cdi cares about Ralsei being a tranny.
>>742966345i think you mean furry and cucking
>>742965604>he would NEVER add in code later to avoid being datamined on chapter release, no sir that could never be the caseWhat the fuck's the point of this? Just to wait two weeks? Where the fuck's the logic in that?
>>742966215
>>742959830Most kino character ever written
>>742966289We don't know Carol's motivations to know whether or not that was her actual intention.We don't know ANYONE'S motivations in this fucking game, all we can do is speculate based on the most basic of reads because Toby will look at in-depth reads and spitefully change things to say "no you're wrong actually".
>>742966147Yeah that shit is really funny especially because it's exactly how you're supposed to feel.>Well of COURSE Darkeners are real! You're all equally fake to me :)Like the ENTIRE plotline of Kris being puppeted by (You) is about reinforcing this. Spamton is reinforcing this. But people miss it? Somehow?
>>742966364The Kressel theory is gay and retarted.
If Seam and Eram are the same, then how's the name Eram pronounced?
>>742966462>I can't see the payoff RIGHT NOW that means there will NEVER be payoffRetard. How many times does Toby have to teach you this lesson?
>>742966498chapter 1 was 8 years ago...
>>742966489to not have code influence the way people play the game. the shit he added is specifically checking what you have done on a save by save basis
>>742965596>thank you for watching my dream.jpgYou guys are so deluded into thinking this disaster of a game will be salvaged.
>>742965672sorry cockroach the secret is out about your "genre" and how fucking awful it is
>>742966540mare
>>742966121Frisk/Chara and now Aqua will always dominate the female human market.
>>742966546Shit, man, has he ever taught me this lesson?
>>742966540E ROM
>>742966345Get real.Toby's not going to add any explicit sexual content or romance options to Deltarune.
>>742966601/u/xisters, our response?
>>742966149>Is Chapter 3 really that reviled?literally yes, people do not care for interesting meta narrative story telling, they just want a generic hero's journey where the good guys fight the bad guys and the story is completely linear. so having to s-rank boards to have an entirely different side of the puzzle is bad game design to them.
>>742960607Seam is FRIEND isn't he?
>>742966540Anon-san, ERAM is a fan name, the thing is just called mantle
>Toby is a manlet with a dog avatar and has broken wrists>Kris is a manlet who RPs as a dog with an entire plotline about potentially losing their handSo kris is blatantly just Toby’s self insert?
>>742966516They think the game is a dating sim >>742966272
>>742966515>in-depth readsTN: This is autism speak for>I gaslit myself into believing dumb crap because I value being surprised more than a well written story
>>742966272>dont forget Sans image about Kris, Susie and Ralsei in UndertaleI can bet its a connection made up AFTER Undertale was already made. Otherwise Toby would put Noelle in Snowdin since the beginning
>>742966209It would be nice if Toby gave us at least some choice. I'm praying he doesn't make us swallow more dykeshit.
>>742966674Uh, yeahWhen do we get the actual Legend of Delta Rune
>>742966696it's dante's inferno
>>742966696>gets cucked by a lesboyep
Also at full risk of pissing a bunch of mental basket cases, secondaries and generally gay niggerfaggots off, a lot of this shit just reads like being jealous of the one guy we know Toby specifically noticed.
>>742966516>But people miss it? Somehow?To be fair Kris tends to chuck you into a cage and will wrestle back for whatever he needs. You didn't even choose to be Kris's soul either. It got forced onto you because people don't get to choose who they are in this world.Spamton also isn't controlled by his strings
>>742966712A well-written story does not leave it so you still don't know the motivations of your core cast over halfway into tis narrative.
>>742966705You disingenuous fag. Characters have character; susie's character up until chapter 5 was a bully with a heart of gold.Then she forgot.
>normal route>weird route>sword route>egg route>aborted weird route vCh2>aborted weird route vCh4>(aborted) weird route vCh5>berdley routeChapter 7 in 2040.
>>742966540like aaron with an M
>>742966489no you see this is MASSIVE LORE that we just HAD to find out 2 weeks later it just HAD to be later it all makes sense i'm not crazyno but seriously though i don't get it either, the dude's acting like this would influence people collecting/not collecting eggs like we're not 5 chapters in and far too deep for that to change anythingpeople were already worried about the eggs poteentially being necessary, this extra tidbit didn't 'change how people play the game' or whatever it just added more cat lore
>>742966771>the one guy we know Toby specifically noticedWho?
>>742966753t. susie
>>742966674>>742966251i literally got the s-ranks just playing normally without trying particularly hard. do normal niggers really?same with the knight i just reset until i beat him blind, didn't even know most people were going back to the chapter after completion to retry it. a lot of them didn't even know about the mantle, like. just fucking clueless. i cant believe such creatures get to vote
Friend just got to ch 5 a little late
>>742966364Kris is a vessel, not THE Vessel
>>742966147There's a difference between objects obtaining a higher level of consciousness from the magic of dark fountains - as Flowery described - versus "actually yes this is literally just a video game you're playing lol and this world doesn't actually exist in any meaningful sense except in your imagination".Dark worlds elevate inanimate things into real people. Simulation theory would crush real people into lines of code.
>>742966029ch2 is mid because it coasts entirely off of spamton and the weird route if it didn't have either of those it would easily be seen as the worst chapternot that i dislike queen or berdly, but the two of them cannot carry the chapter on their backs like spamton doesit also has the second worst ost after 5 even if it has some of the best songs in the game
>>742966808>heart of gold.not really
>>742966578>shit he added is specifically checking what you have done on a save by save basisThat makes sense. But as for the secret conversation, it doesn't.
>>742966771andrew hussie?
>>742966616Oh.Like Night-MARE.Very clever Toby.
>>742966852Actual cuck shit, don't people play games to relax
>>742966676Yes
>>742966852Berdly turned into a human ghost?
>>742966771Care to share with the class what the FUCK you're going on about, Asgore?
>>742966823>people were already worried about the eggs poteentially being necessaryrevisionist history, people have been saying they are just useless easter eggs that are meant to be a joke about easter eggs since chapter 1
>>742966808im hindsight Susie had been primarily self centered and focusing on how things affect her and other by proxy as secondary kind of like a greedy dragon hm
>>742964228>pink cat that sings dies>the white cats wake up and chase you down, there are multiple white catsI like this implies there is a song that sends cats to sleep, simply because Ralsei has ALWAYS had the lullaby ability. Noelle can also sing but doesn't appear in SWORD Board 3We may get another Mew Mew song next chapter if we recruit her, honestly her being in Castle town can allow for shenanigans since that means Mad Dummy is going to the school closet and finding out our secret, but not leaving because they want to be Mew Mew some more.
This is a really cheap way to make mewmew more in line with the other shadow crystal bosses, even though I like her more personally
>>742966540airm
>>742966851Two eggs over... "PHANTASM"...
>>742966884why would they be added in the same patch together then, it's obviously going to check if you have the eggs or not. these things correlate.
>>742966841I would have played the shit out of a Deltarune with a virtuous Kris and his team going around the world to seal the Dark Fountains and take down all the fountain bosses until you get to the knight at the endWhere's that game
>>742966968I doubt people were saying that after Chapter 3's MANCOUNTRY giving you a whole extra scene you'd never be able to get otherwise.
>Oh Kris, let me see your hand>Penumbra phantasm big shot the world revolving device friend egg shelter gaster>Please be careful, promise me
>>742966851I guess Toby really thought another bland FRIEND cameo would maintain people's interest. Nah bro you have to raise the stakes as a story goes on
What is the mental state of Carol in weird route where she lost her husband and both daughters?
>>742966968lemme just pull up a comic that proves you're retarded>but it's a joke!no shit it's a funny comic
>>742963829A lot. It's obvious that he adjusted some things to better fit based on fanbase feedback, or him just coming up with shit on the spot, but Toby is autistic so the general plot structure is probably the same, and so are a lot of story beats.
sjelter?
>>742966674What the fuck are you talking about?People didn't like the fucking boards.That Old school Zelda shit overstayed its welcome by a dog's lifetime.Hell, the gimmick was starting to drag by the end of the second mandatory board.
>>742967146>forgetting her reaction at the end of the last chapter>and how similar Noelle's expressions on Chapter 5's weird route are to CarolCarol 100% knows and is egging her daughter on.
>>742967146let's not imagine
>>742967220retard alert
>>742967081Not enough meta story telling and lore baiting to use as a crutch in that game
>>742967038Does the secret conversation only trigger if you have all the eggs?
>>742967146probably becomes as delusional as asgoreor kills herself
>>742966864Queen was a fun character I don't care Would I have been fine with the more chud version of her as well? Yeah.Flowery was a true believer and hero of his own story which was neat, which is unlike Tenna who basically was working on behalf of Kris and trying to trap us and so ultimately was a lackey despite the stage presence. The Chaos King and Queen answering to the knight had me wondering who the emperor/empress was and that's what I figure Carol to me.Fingers crossed Carol is allowed to be chud in ch 6. Cult leader ice empress up to some shit with the angel sounds pretty chud in theory. In practice she might be a nothing burger and this is as silly as thinking asgore would be the flower king and fight kris.
>>742966771It's me!
>>742967234this board needs a fucking reality checkno its not "100%" anon. its not even "25%". its not canon just because it makes your fucken dick hard!! wake up to yourself!!
>>742967286it triggers if you got the egg in chapter 5 and got hit by red friend
>>742966993She's a fun character but yeah, she absolutely fell flat as a secret boss.I think Toby saw that criticism, agreed with it, and slapped a schizo monologue on her to make her more interesting.
>>742966272God, just imagine pulling this little faggot goat in for a kiss on his tiptoes and then sweeping him off his gay little feet and carrying him to your bedroom
>>742966149I hated it at first, but that's mostly because I replayed it two times back to backI like it more now, but it still felt like missed potential. I was expecting there to be different quizes/slight differences to the game boards on different save files maybe, but there was basically none of that
>>742966515Yeah Carol has like two dialogue boxes.Which is why I don't spend time thinking about her. It's
>>742967086NTA but at least on 4chan, the general consensus about eggs is that collecting them all might lead to a major new expository sequence of some kind, but that it would have no effect on an ending or defining a route or otherwise impacting the story itself. A flashback at most.
>>742967330*and if you also defeated pink
>>742966993we'll see if he cares enough to run it back if she's actually here to stay
>>742967321Tell Noelle's mother to stop putting up red heart-shaped object all around her house and I'd agree.
>>742966801Susie wants to go on adventures forever, Noelle wants to be free of her role of being Noelle, Ralsei wants to provide the gang with an entertaining adventure before they all die in The Roaring.
>>742967146Poor.The atmosphere of empty house would feel beyond cold.
>>742967081Play Dragon Quest>But-All of them
>>742966861This game is already filled with diegetic game mechanics. Personally I think it will be like Device Theory. I imagine the Player as a higher dimensional being. I do think the past happened and, it wasn't fabricated memories.
>>742967310Actually you of all people would probably be the most pissed about You Know Who.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AO5u-ylgaIY Thread theme
>>742966930Kressel is the most canon Kris ship.
>>742967273Your first mistake is assuming I give a shit about thatUndertale let me go from ruins to barrier and move on with my life, I think I would manage
>>742967146She would be in the exact same mental state because she is a pawn moving on a pre-defined path
>>742967354Ralsusie bros still coping?
>>742967234>>and how similar Noelle's expressions on Chapter 5's weird route are to Carolnot really
>>742967254Not an argument.
>>742967392Carol didn't even interfere with the festival more than some phone calls over Susie's defiance ffs
>>742966771STOP VAGUEPOSTING AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>742967321i think Carol, Noelle, and probably dess so i will excuse anything they do
>>742966771>>742967462How does Asgore have enough time to post on 4chan? I thought he was too busy getting probed by the Knight
>>742967445What's with the nose
>>742967523why does Noelle has so many erotic expression while Susie is only a goofball and never sexualised?
>>742967462Found one of the people jealous Toby noticed me.
>>742967605Oh it's so horrible in the bunker KrisThey're doing things in there Kris
>>742967321>(You) are always welcome here>Call Kris to tell him her daughter is fucking wet about Festival tomorrow
>>742967605gaster lets him out for his mandated break for an hour every day, it's on the other side of the lake so you don't accidentally see him though
>>742966771I know who you're talking about and I do think you're right.
>>742967605Hour long recess.
>>742967570we can only guess at this point it's because Carol knows Susie's fate is to get sacrificed to the prophecy and that at the end of everything she also gets her daughter back, family back, the community's fixed and all it took was the sacrifice of the bully no one, aside from her daughter and Kris, who should not have been compromised, even like
>>742966993I think because Mew will be the first secret boss recluit, Tony had to tone down her lore, but of course was too retarded and toned down too much
>>742967672I like how nobody even pretends that Noelle likes Susie and just sees her as a suicide pact companion.
>>742967445I love Dragon Quest!!! Turn based comfy adventure. It’s awesome
>>742966515>We don't know Carol's motivationsHere you go
Why did he tear down Toriel in ch4 and then play defence for her in the ch5 intro? What the fuck is Toby doing?Someone explain the flip flopping to me
protein farts
>>742967530If krisellebros can OD on copium then so can we
>>742967672she's wet for (you) by the time (you) put the thornring back on her in chapter 4. even if she confuses is for Kris it's not Kris anymore
>>742967530It's fucked up that Chapter 5 probably has the most Ralsusie fuel with them fucking living together now and Susie explicitly saying Ralsei opens up to her and combs her hair and shitbut the least actual focus because it's The Suselle Chapter and the Susie + Ralsei story arc was chapters 3/4 and Ralsei's trying to put on a dress and get fucked by Kris instead
>>742966801You're replying to a chunibyou animetard.Japanese people have no concept of storytelling to them stories are delusions and serialized hack shit designed for maximum profit. They also love eating up meta shit about how escapism is bad despite being escapists themselves.
>>742967840
>>742967839>OD on copiumyea but unlike every other ship they're on some nasty offbrand shit that makes them seethe nonstop
>>742967764Kris in theory has at least three ways to blackmail Susie if he really wanted to do some long game thing like that probably in the case lel
>>742967829Susie is still mad with her so no idea where he is going with this
>>742967829you can actually chew toriel out a bit if you choose the right options iirc you have to tell her that you slept terribly and that she was too loud
>>742967829toriel isn't a whore and people were thinking to conclusions thinking she bounces up and down on random dudes
>>742967829Toby, surprisingly, is not actually the best writer, and also, being an extremely online millennial, is quite sensitive to criticism and fan reaction (no matter how much he might try and deny that he just does what he likes without caring like an epic true artist whose embraced his cringe)
>thread will reach 1000 postsALL ABOOOOOOAAAAARD, LANDFAGGOTS!
>>742967530I don't need cope, I already lost that battle
>>742967932Toby if you're a single mother and you get drunk and fuck the convenience store clerk who just moved to town you're a whore.
>>742967978Wait shit, i just noticed it's page 10
>>742967978We ain't even at 900
>>742967885Chapter 5 was the forced Suselle unskippable scene vs Krusie, Krisellem Kralsei alternative scenes. Ralsusie was kind of torn apart by Kralsei and Krusie just like Kerdly was by by Seth and Susie cockblocking Berdly.
>>742967829>why did [character] do [bad thing] but then explain why [bad thing] happen and apologize>if [character] do [bad thing] they supposed to be [bad] and [evil] and [cancelled]
>>742967829>toriel does the most generic night after drunk person excuse ever>toby is playing defenseyou guys treat characters like they are all toby fox
Even since THAT DAY.....
>>742967932>toriel isn't a whoreYeah, she's a party slut
i will not play weird route until the game is fully out
>>742966905If you were not a secondary and a gen alpha tard who has never played Link's Awakening you'd know this already
>>742968078That shit about the hidden key was 100% damage control dude.
>>742967829He didn't play complete defense for her, he gives (you) the option to choose how you respond to her and kept Susie feeling awkward around her. It's still a bad moment for her but it's not supposed to ruin her character
>>742962881>>742962969>>742963085Good answersI will make these my teams for my upcoming Mewgenics runs
>>742966393
>>742968087Rudy always saying the sketchiest shit I swear
>>742967978It's too late, buddy.
Chapter 6 can drop a ton of shit and I'd still say it's vagueposting too much
>>742967928Yes, you get the best response by being honest and demonstrating that you actually understood the situation (Kris was not locked out but Toriel was still being an inconsiderate drunk)weird how that works out
>>742968123the hidden key literally doesn't matter, a mother shouldn't leave their kid alone at night drinking. it's an excuse, this is a character in a story
>>742968119Lul.I'm in all likelihood more ancient than you junior.Check yourself.
>>742967885Yeah the whole “Susie being bummed about not being able to take ralsei to the festival” plotline didn’t really go anywhere. At the very least I was expecting it to foreshadow a dark fountain being opened in the middle of the festival or for ralsei’s “jealousy” to be spawned from him wishing he was a lightner like his friends
>>742968087>Yikes, man!Kek Rudy is based beyond belief
>>742966993I'm willing to bet this was initally going to be part of her Castledown dialogue, until Toby took note of fan reception and decided to force the issue
>Orange is actually hiding because of FRIENDWHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN
>>742967829i think he wanted people to care in the sense of slamming face first into your mom partying after fighting a titan and the dissonance being a bit depressing, but then people got mad at it in the 'wrong' way (i.e. thinking you were locked out, that she didn't call, that she was fucking all night)thus, he tried to build on it in the next chapter by making it clear they were JUST partying (because tori's not that bad of a mom that she'd invite her son for a threesome like she implied in this chapter), and that kris was being obtuse on purpose to (You) with shit like ignoring the key under the rugof course people are still mad, because now it just looks like he's trying to make her look better instead
Everymanbros, we haven't been forgotten
>>742968113>Catti and Catty suddenly also want to date Kris>mrs Cattenheimer look at Kris with weird expression
>>742966540Seam = ShawnERAM = ERROR
>>742968123Everyone who was paying attention realized Kris was lying to lead Susie into the Dark World, the same way they did with TV World>>742968239>a mother shouldn't leave their kid alone at night drinkingDo you think Toby Fox disagrees with you
>>742968270>ralsei’s “jealousy” to be spawned from him wishing he was a lightner like his friendsThis is literally happening though? Ralsei clearly resents his role.
>>742968343Remember that guy who thought everyMAN was the original girl?
>>742968432Then someone nore accommodating should replace him
>>742968113Kris/pink bros won?
>>742968426>Do you think Toby Fox disagrees with youno, thats what i'm saying, toby is writing a character that is making excuses for her shitty behavior, not him making excuses for her. if that was the case he would have someone other than toriel say it.
>>742968317Again again again again always and forever the chapter release system has done nothing good for the game and have only made things worse.If the game was just released normally these things could have been surfaced naturally and Toby wouldn’t have to constantly write reactively.
>>742968292>tfw you write a shit of pieceToby probably didn't expect fucking torrents of backlash against suselle during yuri day of all things.
>>742968343Seriously???
>>742967932>>742968087>>742968287>"Heh, Kris, your mom is such a slut... One time at a party, she got so drunk she blew literally every man she could get her big slutty hands on! Yikes, man!"
>>742967445>Storywriter loves medieval shit, Christianity and traditional values>Composer is transphobic>ToriyamaWe don't deserve Dargon Quest it's too good
>>742968507I wonder how much if anything he will change after the full game is out
>>742968515he actually believes suselle is well written
>>742968515i think he did.
>>742967445Why does ralsei have a big nose
>>742966993Doesn't it line up with Jevil? I mean, since Chapter 5 is a callback to 1, and Jevil had his Shadow Crystal added in an update, that lines up
