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How are you guys enjoying Endless Ragnarok?
>back to back bloodthirst 99% damage reduction blocks your way
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cringe bad game
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So when Master Traits says "DMG dealt" instead of "ATK up" thats basically like War Element, no?
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After coming back from the base game I feel so overwhelmed and rusty. But god damn if Maglielle isn't worth the $40.
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I feel like most of the new dlc characters are FUN but almost all of them are weak

Like they just need more numbers
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bros.. how do i farm silver centrums? the exchange is gone
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Any solochads in here?
I want to know of the AI is more competent. Trying to solo Lucillius offline filtered me.
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>>742963289
I think the new character kits were designed with a filled out mastery trait tree in mind
With Fediel I was the lowest dps of my group until I got mastery trait level 30 and maxxed it out
Now I just do 1 X -> mash Y and get consistent mvps
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>everything im doing is 200-250% damage cap

I have max damage cap skill
Capped luculius skill
That new skill From chaos difficulty
100% from ascended wep

Why would I care about the 5 million more atk on the new Trans weapons when im already massively overkilling atk? I need DAMAGE CAP
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bros where is this new crab
chapter 5
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>>742963435
They nerfed the shit out of AI zeta now people are debating what the best AI companions are
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>>742962983
>>742963461
"I main her for the gameplay" ahh character design
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>>742962983
>>742963461
Brown girl now i going to play your game, tell me more about it...
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>>742963553
Bro you think shes bad go look at narmaya shes 4 feet tall with tits bigger than her head
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>>742963435
I am, and the AI really are very good. They won't deal as much damage as efficient, good players, but they are extremely good at avoiding damage and doing what they are supposed to be doing at different parts of a boss fight.
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>>742963461
Yeah they all seem much more basic without those late game upgrades.
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>>742960437
>>742960326
Fediel made reference to it when you turned the quest in as well.
Something about unexpected help.
>>742960509
I've got it unfortunately.
Still drops me under Lumen levels frequently enough that I've removed the third level for now.
Might add it back if I get a decent drain summon/wrightstone so I can hit lvl30 or 45
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how did cygames do it
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>>742963461
i find her SBA call outs funny as fuck.
She calls Rackam "human man".
and maglielle was sword woman? or sword lady? something like that.
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>>742963642
Good. That's all I needed to hear.
>>742963550
That's fine. I AM the Zeta in the party.
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>>742963596
number go up action rpg
not free to play
not an mmo
not a gacha

multiplayer queue up with a squad (or AI companions) kill the boss, get loot, get upgrades, repeat
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Haven’t really dug into chaos quests at all, I want to pick out a new team to bring into ER content so I’m back to grinding other stuff for now.
Gallanza is a lot more fun to play than I thought he would be and is a genuine contender for new main. Like Maggie a lot too, need to test Fediel out more to get a better grip on her moveset but I’m seeing anons say they don’t like playing her.
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Frauxbros how are we liking her?
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>>742963626
>4 feet tall with tits bigger than her head
Let me guess, she's also an immortal moon spirt/goddess that is cursed to look like a child
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What exactly did they buff about buffs?

Do crit and atk buffs actually matter now?
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the difference between not having nimble assault 30 on your build and having it is night and day holy shit. i can't express how gamechanging it is to get like 5 - 6 seconds of complete invulnerability to do your combos just by dodging something. some characters feel impossible to play against these hyper aggressive bosses without nimble assault 30
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>>742963950
Nope, there’s an entire race of midget titcows in grubble. They’re just like that.
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>>742963923
Love her. She's extremely fun.
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>>742963918
I'd recommend setting up an AI team of characters you'd be interested in trying desu
You can totally do Gallanza, Maggie, Feidel and whatever on the fourth spot

It doesn't feel like the AI meta is as needed as basegame
>Anons don't like playing Fediel
She's odd and slow with a range/melee hybrid playstyle
Once you build her though she turns into a ranged nuker where you just mash Y and generate a ton of SBA
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>>742963950
...no? Wait why are you even in this thread lol
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>>742963923
I wish someone would tell me what the optimal combos are on her already, you'd think some autist would have tested this already.
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>>742964025
>They’re just like that.
Okay, Japan. I was interestesld when I saw it hit #1 in Steam sales but now I know its just generic weebshit pedo goonslop simulator.
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How much health do I realistically need for chaos? I'm at 100k currently on my stinger weapon
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>>742964161
100k is plenty to start chaos
you get a fuckton of health progressing through it
using the ascendant defender weapon is really good since it gives you damage cap + damage based on your health (plus a massive load of hp)
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>>742964161
WTF is a ragnalia and where do i find them.
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>>742963991
yes buffs actually works

speaking why did they make captain substitute party wide pretty sure before you protected one person
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>>742963991
atk buffs ignore dmg cap now

if you are using transcended stinger weapons, you have overcrit damage now, but i think stinger weapons are a meme since you'd rather just use defender weapons for the bulk vs these oneshot fest bosses or transcended terminus if you really want damage. that being said, i think there are overcrit perks in conflux so it might be good there
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>>742964084
If marketers were smart they'd give review copies and early gameplay demos to the minmax autism chads but instead we get RuriCuck showcasing his vomit inducing "all HP and Defense tank" Gallanza.
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>>742964161
I've felt pretty comfy at 240k throughout the third chaos tab, but I also play range.
Aim for mayb 140/190/250 by each rank up maybe?
Or dodge better than me
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>>742964135
How were you interested in this game in the first place saying
>ok japan
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>>742964235
At what point do I need to change or do something different?
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>>742964323
it's just a resident schizo upset at the game not being on sale
dont feed trolls
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>>742963435
I can't wait to come back to Luci with all the expansion buffs and rape his twink ass for making me mald
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>>742964330
Whenever you want your number to go up
Go check the ascendant tab at the knickknack shop between quests and see if you can ascend your weapons
Chaos isn't too bad. The proud difficulty spike felt harder desu
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I need MSP
is there a better farm than slimepede?
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>>742963435
Well they un-lobotomized Vane and Sieg got buffed but overall I have not had any issues with the AI up to Chaos++. Luci is a bit of an outlier since its a bit more mechanically involved with the labors but even pre-ER regular luci was doable enough. I get the feeling with the power boost we've gotten from ER going back to even super luci might be a cakewalk.
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>>742963435
they're still nigh invencible
and deal decent damage
generally better than your average pubbie
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You think they'll add a "Hard" Luci for the expansion?
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I'm overwhelmed by the amount of shit to grind. Should I bother using Terminus weapons since I have so much health, or focus on something else? Trying to grind out four fuckers for Chaos, the Siete Song urgent took me 40 fucking minutes
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I know nothing of Granblue and don't want to know anything about Granblue but I just unlocked this character and completely get why he's popular. Everything he does is so proudly chuuni.
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WHERE IS THE SILVER CENTRUM EXCHANGE AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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My stupid ass thought this was a sequel not an expansion. I'm so fucking rusty I don't know wtf I'm doing.
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>>742964541
but there's a hard luci already
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>>742964436
there is a chaos version of slimepede
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>>742964615
oh thank god
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>>742964586
Based
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>>742964060
Yeah in regards to party comp that’s what I was thinking.
I mostly only play MP anyway, but once I dip into conflux more I’ll see how necessary it is keeping a dedicated supporter like Cag around.
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>>742964586
How is his gameplay? I quit the game way early. Never realized they added Sandy and the bow girl.
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>>742964286
>his vomit inducing "all HP and Defense tank" Gallanza

Kek I watched a little of his stream and he was just spinning the entire time.
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>>742964548
focus on something else and use spartan echo to partially compensate for the loss of catastrophe
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The latest trailer had Lucilius with a different looking set of his regular Dark Opus weapons.
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Is conflux 4 good to farm?
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I wish there was a way to transfer saves so i can pass my save from piss5 to Switch 2
Should i just start from scratch?
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>>742963596
That brown girl is also 6'10"
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>>742964730
Forgot to quote this guy >>742964541
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>still overpowered
Io
Charlotta
Sandolphon

>better now
Cag
Eugene
Rosetta
Seig (CPU)

>pretty much the same (good)
Narmaya
Yoda

>worse now
Ghanda
Zeta
Seig (player controlled)
vane

>still shit
Gran
Tweyen
Ferry

>wait and see
DLC chars (theyre weak)
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I was planning to just get the digital version but as I am forced to wait until the weekend to buy the game should I get this instead? Yeah, yeah, GKC bullshit but at least I would get the box.
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>>742964826
Also, WTF? Io is not in the box art?!
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>>742964794
Noooooooo
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>>742964713
His stupid ass didn't even realize that Gallanza gets dizzy and becomes wide open if you spam it too long. He legit thought that was a tradeoff so he just kept stacking HP.
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>>742964816
Seofon dozo?
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>>742964601
you can get 10 for one run of cycle 3. which is probably the fastest way to get them now.
Otherwise they cost 50 rafale coins. so if you don't wanna do the roguelite stuff gotta figure which quest has either really good coin drops or silver centrum drops.
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What's the new silver cert farm now that you need hundreds of them?
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Does Def down cause damage to exceed damage cap?
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>>742964816
What are you basing this on? Did Zeta get a damage nerf or something or is it just a general tier list.
>Io still at the top
Based. My little nuke mage.
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>>742964948
and i am retarded again and responded to the wrong guy >>742964595
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>>742964816
gran isnt shit lol some of the best utility in the game just dont expect him to top damage
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>>742964936
SHIETEBOYS WE WON SO HARD
not that guy though, but i think he's easily in the top third of characters
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How do people not like eustace? He's very fun.
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>>742964548
Most of the old sigil setups still hold true but a lot of people switched over to transcended non-terminus weapons as soon as they could for a smoother chaos experience and because even with a lower attack most people are still going over their damage cap by a lot. For reference here's where each transcendent weapon matches or beats the base terminus weapon in terms of damage cap assuming you can hit their conditional
>Defender - Transcend 3 - HP = 155000
>Ascension - Transcend 1 - No condition
>Executioner - Transcend 2(transcend 1 is only 10% less than terminus) - Weak point and back attack hits
>Stinger - Transcend 3(Transcend 2 is only 10% less than terminus) - Crit rate 155+
>Stunner - Transcend 1 - Gain 80% Link level
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>>742965164
Because
>MALE
and most of people here aren't girls or literal fags.
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>>742962983
i didnt finish the game completely when i last played 2 years ago so booting the game back up was very overwhelming because i dont remember how any of the gear systems work
so then i thought maybe i should just make a new save file but i don't want to have to replay everything
so i'm just not playing right now unfortunately
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>>742965164
>He
That's why. Also "lets make a ranged fighter that is played optimall up close." No thanks, I got my grandpa chad touse guns properly.
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>>742965264
>shitskin/tranny way of thinking
pick your poison
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>>742964984
yes, also they don't overwrite each other anymore, they just stack on top of each other
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>>742965307
I thought grenades weren't his best thing now
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>>742965297
What I did was look up character tutorials for my mains for the base game and hit up some mid tier missions. It'll bring back that muscle memory.
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>>742965297
People like you is why games have yellow paint.
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>gets a shitty sandals not even lv 100 that stays on the ground half the time and fails to join full burst
>gets mvp
just fuck off already
I know that means nothing but it's still annoying.
As Bea I'm getting really shitty scores, but I guess that's because she does 0 support.
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>>742963461
What master trait style did you go on her? Do you just spam her claw attack, or should I being using that big shadow orb finisher?
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>>742965436
Buffs and debuffs score tremendously

Archer girl is bottom 5 worst characters in the game but she still constantly steals MVP because of that
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>742965349
>A guy liking girls over guys is now considered T people shit.
What the fuck happened to this world?
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>>742965436
Kek they haven't changed the way the weight scores huh? I remember dead weight faggots triggering DPS parsefags because a single heal outweighs 100million DPS.
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>>742965409
bit rude. my mistake was i should have booted the game up a week ago just to get used to it again. i also apparently played the game on mouse/keyboard 2 years ago cause when i tried yesterday with controller all the muscle memory was gone
>>742965395
yeah good idea maybe i'll do that. i only have a few maniac missions left, which i think is the end of the original game anyway?
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The early conflux levels you need to clear once are so easy you can use them to get back into things.
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Wait

You PICK a master trait? You dont get all 3?

How do I pick which one is active?
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>>742965601
Certain amount of master traits in each style will unlock the style.
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>>742965550
>aAh i must be a woman in a woman world
>i hate men so much, i don't wanna see icky yucky men
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I fucking love Io bros.
I love sitting in one spot and out damaging the whole party combined.
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>>742965264
>>742965307
My main before the dlc was eugen so maybe it's just me liking gun characters. I usually also have low profile which tremendously helps ranged characters, especially upclose. At times i'm literally just sitting on the boss plucking away at them. I want to try fediel but i'l wait until way later until I get all the stuff unlocked.
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I really hope this game doesn't die as quickly as the base game did. It made me sad when you couldn't find parties anymore.
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>>742965047
>muh utility
>openly admitting his damage is shit
LOOOOOOL
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>>742965667
What happened to guys just liking pretty girls because they are heterosexual?
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>>742965693
Chat is this real?
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>>742965465
Grab this as your mastery and max it out
>Insight Finishing Touch
Get as much normal attack cap up as possible from summons, master traits and overmastery
Grab damage cap sigils, fatebreaker sigil etc etc
You should also get her warpath sigil

The most optimal damage I found is:
>Enter claw attack stance
>Do 1 claw attack
>Mash Y and send out all your orbs
>Repeat as much as possible

The combo finisher does a lot of damage and you can do it often
It also builds a shit ton of SBA gauge to boot

You should do the score attack mode against the training dummy if you wanna doublecheck the rotation
For my setup it blew out any other buff/debuff rotation, claw mashing, claw stack building, big spirit bomb skills
Being airborne during your combo finisher Y's is also free mitigation since a lot of stuff will just whiff (and you can dodge/block in the air too)
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How hard is the DLC? I was too shit to beat Sandy.
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>>742965863
Yes. There's already a reddit thread seething over it because it's a "pedo dog whistle" and moralfags acting smug about blocking people who use it.
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>>742965653
But I maxed them all

Im so confused how do I pick one...
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>>742965861
Those days are long gone anon, you know this. I play either men or women depending on who I find fun but that is also seen as a tranny mindset.
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>>742965693
me when Io joins the lobby
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Bubs is an asshole for being able to grab you out of Vane's bubble.
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>>742963461
Can this be done before mastery 30? I'm only 20
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>>742964816
Guess how much this matters
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>>742965978
Thanks. What skills do you run with the Finishing Touch master trait?
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i would assume they are all active
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>>742966008
Smooth sailing for me with a team that could beat everything except the boss gauntlets and the hard mode luci and versa. So far I've only been upgrading my MC and up to Chaos++ I've been able to hit almost all the sub-goal timers that aren't insanely short
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Fellas, is it gay to want to fuck Cagliostro?
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>>742962983
It's not a fighting game, right? I hate that shit.
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I love Cag so much bros
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Is the endgame just endless block and dodge spam while trying to do chip damage against the boss? I'm going through the story but even when turning effects down it's difficult to read what the fuck is going on sometimes and I'm curious how punishing the endgame is. Do you die in a couple hits? How many times can you go critical before failing a mission?
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>>742966298
downgrade
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>>742965693
Where do I get this title
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>>742966427
Yeah
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>>742966273
No, she is in a 100% female body, who cares if she was a man CENTURIES ago?
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>>742966298
>know nothing about Granblue
>buy Relink on a whim because it looked cool
>crank it to Cag r34 after every session
>do Cag's story mission
>mfw I've been beating it to an old man skinwalking as a cute girl who is also his sister
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>>742966226
Io can literally phase skip endgame bosses vs gran making you have to do certain boss phases more than once so that actually matters a lot
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I'm not even going to purchase this until the meta develops. Everyone is just spouting bullshit right now.
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>>742966501
>MFW
Except you didn't post a pic, so what is your face then?
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>>742965856
some one has to step up to give party buffs
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>>742966525
Doesn't matter at all, much like it doesn't in MH. Just focus on YOUR autism numbers and let other people do their thing
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>>742966008
be like me and get carried by chinese players
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>>742966260
Yeah.
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>vaseragas endgame is autistically dancing in place evade canceling buffs until finally slashing once dealing literally BILLIONS of damage attempting to one shot a boss

This looks so retarded I hate how its so strong
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LISTEN UP
ALL YOU "SUPPORT" CHARACTERS OR
NIGGERS
AS I LIKE TO CALL YOU
YOU BETTER DEBUFF THE ENEMY SO MY IO NUKES GET BIG OR I WILL COMMISSION FATFAG FUTA OF YOU
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>>742966630
I'm all for optimizing, but you're not even going to play it? Bizarre
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>>742966501
https://youtu.be/H3o6Magi8P4?si=mWfwFZ-_F3viV6nH
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>>742966134
play whoever you think whoever is fun or cool or sexy without worrying about the opinions of online strangers
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>>742966706
i do more dmg than you
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>>742966218
You get the extra Y orbs at level 30 so yeah it wouldn't work well with level 20

>>742966231
>The short cooldown dash that puts you into claw stance
>The big long-channel orb (cause its fun to press when the monster is further away)
>The Petrify AoE which puts you into claw stance
>The +ATK +DEF buff that goes into a stomp (which you can follow up with Y to go into claw stance)

Opener would be
>+ATK +DEF buff
>Stomp
>Y to dash in
>X to claw once
>Y to launch up and throw your bomb
>Y Y Y YY Y until you're spent
>Dash skill
>X to claw
>Y to launch
>Y Y YY Y YY
>Run in, AoE petrify
>X to claw once
>Y to launch
>Y Y Y Y Y Y
Repeat

Whenever skills are off cooldown just do your normal X combo until you stomp then dash in with Y and do claw->Y Y Y Y Y Y
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>>742965856
I'd take a gran over a charlotta or near anyone else.
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>>742966214
There's a boss that ignores invuln buffs?
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Does Cag actually have feelings for Gran or is that purely doujin headcanons?
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>>742966630
who cares about meta in a PvE game?
Hell, you are probably slow enough by the time you reach chaos someone will have figured out for you how to play the game.
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>>742963478
You can use the HP weapon and be comfy for a while until whatever the real endgame autism comes in
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>>742964913
you got one with the superior debonaire?
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Your crewmate is getting hired right, captain?
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>>742966770
Petrify kinda blows, it only lasts 5 seconds
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>>742966827
Who doesn't have feelings for the captain regardless of their gender (both of the captain and the unit)?
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THIS is a dyke...what a waste...
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I intentionally play Rosetta so I can always get MVP then act smug about it in chat. Always ends with hate mail trying to lecture me about the actual damage numbers.
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how do i get more fortitude/weapon level crystals? i'm drained empty and about to enter proud difficulty
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If Tweyen was added over a year ago, why is the story only introducing her in a cutscene now
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>>742962983
I was having a ton of fun up to and including the Tweyen and Siofon fight
Now I'm getting irritated and annoyed by this new weapon system. They don't explain it particularly well but still say "use this or fuck you" so I don't know what I'm doing wrong because I haven't played in too long
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>>742966721
I am literally playing eustace as we speak.
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>>742966921
Fraux loves Rios only.
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>>742966935
Rosetta got buffed though
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>>742966260
You can have all rank 1 active, but from 2 onwards you have to specialize in one of the three because there's not enough points.
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>>742966984
Ok, that is one, who else doesn't love the Captain?
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>>742966912
The best part about petrify is that it puts you into claw stance so you get to mash out Y bombs faster
The seconds you gain is just a freebie

Y bombing isnt too fun of a playstyle desu
I had more fun before I spent an hour labbing the highest damage combo I could find
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>>742966903
>5 coins
>0 badges
I'm choosing to think it's because AiIo is garbage...
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>>742966935
You literally just made up a scenario in your head

no one DMs anyone over MVP
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>>742966927
Not in my doujin
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>>742967002
Some of the rank 1's are total memes like Gallanza's "get dizzy to heal" thing so you can skip those for more stats
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>>742964697
He has a lot of cool mechanics and skills
That unfortunately are complete shit and never get used because unga bunga is optimal way to play him
#1 letdown of a character in the history of gaming

At least that was how it was in base game. I'm hoping they fixed him with the DLC
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>>742966845
nta but it's a tism thing unironically. It feels bad feeling like you're not playing optimally and when you discover there was amore efficient and better way to play then you just get mad that you wasted hours. It doesn't matter if every character can beat the game solo. I don't want to be beat the game. I want to master the game within the game and any time spent not doing that irritates me.
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what sigils on maglielle? does she have a warpath adjacent?
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>>742966501
You know, with how fucked up is everything now it's is a miracle that GBF is still niche enough for the T people to completely miss its existence, otherwise they would have tried to "claim" Cag.
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>>742966937
Go into options->Gameplay and put on "Full auto assist mode"
Take your best AI members into the quest "Gulp... these are the rumored monsters"
AFK until quest is done
Enable repeat quest
Go fap to Beatrix for an hour and come back for infinite weapon exp
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>>742963545
Its above you. Go to the path/chest thats northeast of you. And you should see some rocks/bricks along the wall you can hop across.
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How far into the story until the 2 new ER waifus join your team (without having to use 2x crew tickets)
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>>742966960
go get em champ
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>I could wait until the boss stops doing do a charged Embrasque sword
>or I could just Stout Heart through their strongest attack
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>>742966845
I care about the meta in PvE because the only fun thing to do in this game is fight online and win damage related MVPs with perfected builds. I want to smash buttons on overpowered characters so I can feel good about myself at the results screen. Nothing else matters.
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>>742967240
Faux took me like 10-15 hours maybe
Still haven't gotten brown dragon chick
Just use your tickets. Save the game first then try the girls out in practice mode and reload if they stink
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lmao where did all the sandy players go damn those nerfs really made everyone of them go ghost
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>>742967153
I remember the reason they didn't want to "claim" Cag like they usually do is because he has tons of dialogue where he refers to himself as a man in private and the implied infatuation with his dead, underage sister.

Early on, there were retards using Cag profile pics on Twitter who were quickly "educated" and had to make gay apologies over it.
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>>742967150
she has a warpath
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>>742966927
made for me
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>>742967153
Would they even though she’s openly a lolicon pervert?
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>>742967352
His sister died of old age after a long happy life, HOW THE FUCK IS SHE "UNDERAGE"?!
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Of the new characters, who is easy to learn? Please say Maglielle.
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>>742967350
They are all getting walled because they refuse to take off their 45k health sigil while also dealing the lowest damage in the game because lightstep spam does nothing.

Every time I have failed a mission so far it has been because of a Sandal.
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>>742967261
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>>742967150
Concentrated Fire works on her if you aren't hitting your damage cap and want a 1 sigil fix with no gimmick.
You probably want a lot of cooldown reduction
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>>742966298
do you really? that's not the cag I know
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>>742967178
ooo thanks anon, the only farm i've been doing so far is just slimepede
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>>742967437
He recreated her body when she was young, and in the actual gacha, refers to her child form as "her at her most alluring." Cag is shamelessly pedo in the gacha, he even tries to flirt with Io, who is too innocent to catch on.
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>>742967503
>Concentrated Fire works on her if you aren't hitting your damage cap
does it? I tried it earlier without hitting the cap and it didn't make any difference
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>>742967352
I am surprised because they usually "claim" something on the most snall basic information that makes them think is "one of them" and don't give a shit about details. It happened with Splatoon 3 shiver (because she is a flat tomboy) and Pokemon Iono (because she has pastel colored hair), both times someone from Nintendo came out and told them to GTFO.
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>>742967607
Maybe I'm retarded but when I had full levels of it on I was at like 200% of my cap so I took it off and it went back to like 98-120%
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finished the main story of ER and I have not seen a single
>Djeeta
>Katalian
>Rackam
>Eugen
>Rosetta
>Lancelot
>Percival
>Siegfried
>Yodarha
>Ghandagoza
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>>742967680
did it have some additional skills? I was happy when I saw that charge up affects Gallanza till I noticed the sigil had some +% dmg regardless and it doesn't count as charge after all.
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>>742967760
how many sandalphons did you see
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>>742967782
I don't 100% remember so that could've been it. I dunno why she wouldn't count as ranged she can hit the entire fucking room.
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Do I really need to spend 30-40min doing slimepede for mastery points? I'm catching up with the base game grinds after beating the episode cero and this shit is insufferable
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>>742966937
Did you do the quest for dark wee pincers? First one gives 500 Fort L for just 1 crab, you can find one in the very first chapter. They show up on the map if you make it bigger
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>>742967664
>both times someone from Nintendo came out and told them to GTFO.
Based. I wish more companies would do the same. Sadly there are a lot of Naoto profiles trending because of the P4 remake. It's embarassing.
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I was torn between the crit weapon transcend or the HP one, the crit one does a bit more damage but the big FAT FUCK HP is also very nice since I've never ever played with high HP in this game. I tried it out before going to bed and when I got hit the difference was of course night and day, not dying in one hit is VERY good so it's nice to be FAT for once. You fat FUCK.
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>>742967596
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>>742967760
No shit? Everyone is playing either the new characters or the popular and powerful characters from base Relink they already built up
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>>742967816
most common were fraux >> mags = sandy
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>>742967857
The new conflux mode has baby easy difficulties and drops a ton of mastery points
you should also check if you have any ambrosia in your inventory which can be used for 15000 MSP
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>>742963950
No there's a whole race of shortstacks, it's genius
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>>742967857
Just play the game normally. You don't need to max out everything to beat the new story. You are ruining the game for yourself.
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>>742967931
HEY! You respect fat pikachu in this household.
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>>742965047
Gran I think got some good master talents but I feel like I was expecting more from AI gran. Like Crux 3 in the hands of a normal player can upkeep substitute 100% which would at least carve tank gran with clarity a niche of being the ultimate safety net for a solo player. Thats however not how I've seen the AI play and he covers maybe >50% of the time. Maybe I just need to play around with his settings more or theres something I'm missing or the other paths are better but the potential is there if the captain AI can just gets its head out of its ass
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>>742967760
I've seen everyone but Lanc/Ghanda
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>>742964697
I've played him for about 5 minutes so someone else would be able to give a better explanation, but he comes off as a DLC version of a bunch of other characters. He has the same timing mechanic as Sieg, the flash step Lancelot has, a super mode transformation, a heal, an invincible teleport combo, a counter with paralyze. I'm just hoping he gets to use all these toys and it's not still like the other anon said.
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>>742967960
they drop items that give mastery or just from conflux itself because ive never gotten mastery from doing conflux and I've done it like 10 times
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>>742967889
Ironically the T people ignored the one pokemon character that was obviously designed to pander them, Penny. Maybe because she is an ugly androgynous thing while Iono is a pretty girl?
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>>742967931
The crit weapon ascend is only more damage than the HP one when they're both fully ascended (260% damage cap vs 270% iirc)
Overcrit's problem is that you'd be better off going a terminus build if you're prioritizing damage over defenses. Overcrit ends up in a middle ground where it doesn't excel at either
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>>742967837
yea I thought so too just like I was expecting Gallanzas spin2win being a charge but for some odd fucking reasons it doesn't seem to count. Maybe I'll check the ranged one again as I may be mistaken or it's a bug.
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>>742967596
Don't forget there's an entire thing he has with mirrors where he can't resist flashing himself pretending it's his sister doing it to him. Relink Cag is vanilla as fuck.
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>>742968016
>>742967760
Why did Lanselot fall off so hard?
I remember him being the literal #1 most popular for lucilius
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>>742965572
No, you have another difficulty with 20+ missions to get through, you should feel comfortable playing the game again a few missions in, the combat isn't complicated at all
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>>742964586
Based
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still waiting for the rosetta ferry and katalina players to post their experience with the mastery levels and buffs
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>>742967857
You can use Ambrosia, I've been buying some and using that whenever I need some mastery points. Playing normally should grant you a lot as it is.
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>>742968080
>Maybe because she is an ugly androgynous thing while Iono is a pretty girl?
No it's because artists kept drawing Penny getting fucked exclusively by her eevees and having her as an icon would be signalling they're down for pokemon bestiality.
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Here's 178m dmg maglielle in a 1 minute dummy
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>>742967240
Fraux joins in after beating the last or second to last chaos+ mission and Fediel just made herself known near the start of chaos++ so its probably still a while.
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>>742967760
I have seen Lance/yoda
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CAN I PLAY AS THE LOLI DAGGER MAGE AND MR. TORGUE? NO? THEN I DONT CAAARRRREEEEE!!!
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>>742968097
post proof
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Did they nerf ghonda? He was one of the characters I wanted to play.
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>>742963435
I'm not certain whether this is just me misremembering, but I'm pretty sure they're infinitely better at Luci than before. They're actually better than I am at running to the circles now and they do a good job at targetting things for his ordeals, whereas before it felt like a gamble whether they'd help or I'd be in the right position.
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>>742968209
you can
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>>742968194
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbF2zYQy-FU
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>systems on top of systems on top of systems
The original game was already heavy on fluff but this expansion is too much for me, just let me peacefully grind levels or whatever but I can't be bothered to juggle between sigils, mastery traits, summons, weapons etc.. between 4 characters
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>>742968130
Lancelot and saldolphons triangle spam builds are nerfed, hard

Only charlotta is allowed to press one button
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>>742968194
I have no idea if that is good or not since this is the only parse ive seen for an endgame character
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>>742968130
They gutted both his cheese playstyle and also reworked his intended playstyle and it plays like shit now. He has the shortest range in the game but needs to get close to ramp up and is heavily, heavily penalized if he doesn't get to stick to the bosses ass
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>>742968254
Prove it
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>>742968253
nope, did lucius the day ragnarok released and they fucked up both the feather and light phases.
They did give it a try but couldn't reach the lights in time and barely did any damage to the feathers
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>>742968192
Penny barely gets fanart, never got a dedicated doujin only about her and nowadays the only attention she gets is from certain artist that likes to make videos with Iono and Florian "not totally dating" and still they made Penny use shitloads of disgusting piercings (including a tongue chain one).
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>>742968092
Ah I see, I've only maxed out a weapon at +4 transcend for now, will continue playing some more today. Even at lower upgrade levels you can see the bonus is mostly +10% overall, so the big HP boost was just more alluring to me since it's basically just a weapon rewarding you with a double benefit basically.
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So I transcended my weapon a couple of time and I put a fate breaker on, and now I am massively over capped on the damage cap.
Is it because fatebreaker doesnt work in the training room or something?
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>>742968418
bwo.... >>742968281
she's available in the new expansion
unlocks somewhere during mid basegame story
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>>742968450
fatebreaker requires the new difficulty, training roon is no difficulty set
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>>742968450
fate breaker gives you both atk and cap. so you wont see a significant difference in the % on the training dummy anon
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does Id still suck?
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>>742962983
should I cream api the dlc or wait for it to go on sale?
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>>742968524
He never sucked
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what does elemental friction do?
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>>742968540
How bad do you want to play it
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>>742968494
>>742968523
Hmmm
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Who is currently the most popular character online with Ragnarok?
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>>742968540
depends on your skin color
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>>742968540
I think you should believe in yourself and use the free will God blessed you with to make your own decisions in life
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>>742968450
Fatebreaker doesn't work in the training room, but it increases your damage as well as your damage cap
So if you have 203% hits in the training room, you'll have 203% hits in quests as well, but the actual damage you'll do is higher

It's normal to progress through chaos and chaos+ with overcapped damage since the transcendent weapons are really good
Just take off damage sigils and put in any celestial sigils you like, and the rest can be defenses or QoL
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>>742968545
pre-warpath he was pretty mid. Some anons claimed he was borderline trolling in zero idk. I played him now in some new quests but other than the lack of damage still seems fine.
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>got back into the game after dropping it
>can't decide if I like playing Percival, Sandalphon or Id the most
this fucking SUCKS
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>>742968419
I don't know, man. I barely ever beat Luci before the DLC in the past and when I did it was by a hair, but I did it immediately when the dlc released because I forgot it was Proto Bahamut who drops Terminus weapons and it was a lot easier
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>>742968598
I’m still seeing the usual suspects like Charla and Narmaya.
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>>742968598
In my experience:

Faux, Maglielle, Sandalphon, Fediel, Tweyen, Zeta
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>>742968470
I will now buy your DLC
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>>742968674
Id
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So I can't play the new story until I'm done with all the quests?
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>>742968712
Never done him before DLC and I managed to beat him first try even at 30% hp or something but barely any crysis bar left so you might be right
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>>742968849
Until proto
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>>742968735
It's funny how Bea players are non existent when everyone expected them to be like Narmaya.
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>>742968524
He's pretty good but he'll break your Y button. Being able to manipulate Godmight timing and not be forced to stay in Dragonmode is huge, means that you can be sure to spam like 6 godmight combos every SBA chain/link time which is bonkers for damage.
>>742968634
>>742968545
He was serviceable and above average on really fat bosses, but there was a lot of broken shit in the pre-warpath days so he got overshadowed by a lot of it
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How many of the master trait perks can we get? I know the levels go up to 50(still not sure when 40 and 50 happen) but perks in the 2nd and 3rd rank require 6 so at master level 30 I'm stuck at perks 3/1/1.
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Currently chapter 5.

Djeeta is mediocre.
Io is KINO.
Still have to try out Katalina and Rosetta.
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>>742968598
>popular and will carry
Charlotta
Narmaya

>not popular and will carry
Vaseraga


>popular and you WILL wipe
Sandolphon
Magliele

>popular and will always steal mvp despite not being useful at all
Tweyen
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TUyyzbCq_E
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>>742969047
She's just doing beginner content who cares
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I NEED MSP, Danchou
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>>742969017
What about Maggy makes her a liability?
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>>742968934
I think she just got overshadowed by Faux and Fediel
She's a bit basic but also really hard to pilot in Chaos. Bosses jump around a ton and get their 99% DR when she starts popping off
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How do you filter sigils by specific types? I know I did it before.
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>>742968336
Sticking to bosses asses isn't that hard with the dodge sigils but yeah his damage doesn't feel great and freeze didn't work on the very end of the endgame
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>>742968934
I'm glad desu
I was worried my favorite would be spammed to shit online and get a bad reputation. I'm happy with her being more niche and having actual dedicated players instead
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>>742969103
...uma player, in my granblue thread?
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>>742969129
open up the filter with the start button, then right or left trigger
unless you mean sigil types then right or left shoulder buttons
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>>742967857
Chaos++ quests give like 50k a clear
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>>742968942
>not be forced to stay in Dragonmode is huge
wait how? I know about the shield holding but I cant remember this
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>>742969172
NTA but i love satano diamond....
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>>742969118
Im not even sure if magliele is bad its just that the people playing her ALWAYS
ALWAYS
DIE
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>>742969189
Thanks, totally missed the L2 and R2s
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IMPORTANT QUESTION

ARE THERE ANY SUMMONS I DONT HAVE TO CONTROL DIRECTLY?

I DONT WANT TO PLAY AS FUCKING MAMAGARMR
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>tutorial says you can control magli weapon
>It just flies off in a random direction
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>>742968934
In hindsight it's pretty obvious since she's kind of combo based, as opposed to someone like Maglielle who is a long ranged blender that laughs at you.
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>>742969325
the ones ive seen are just buffs and stuff but still have to see a dumb cutscene
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>>742969118
I think Charlotta mains are picking her up and getting slapped around since they can’t just shut brain off and face tank with her.
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>>742966525
Games are at their best when the meta is undeveloped, you're missing out
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>>742969118
A few of her attacks and her gimmicks lock her in place, I suppose. Also it's hard to tell what's happening, so I imagine a lot of players are not performing that well.
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>>742967453
She's easy. The only hard thing about her is aiming her finisher because the aiming in this game is a big wonky.
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>>742969017
>Charlotta
>Narmaya
Wow what a meta shift. Good job ER, way to balance the game!
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>>742969416
It is not our fault our queen Charlotta is both nimble, defensive, and strong.
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Charlotta players got sent to the shadowrealm, its all Io's now...feels like the base game before the warpath update.
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>>742968209
You can and Mr. Torgue is quite fun and simple.
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>>742969416
With her staff converted to a shield dispenser in her masteries it's pretty hard for her to take much damage. She doesn't have anything built in to be outright invulnerable but you can also be a mile away from the fight half the time
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>>742969232
Shield holding but also his rank 2 godmight mastery lets you manually transform once you reach 4 bars, so no more being forced to wait to transform due to versalis heart or being in base/dragon form and being unable to enter godmight when a SBA/link time is about to happen. So you can either transform immediately or buffer block to stay attacking indefinitely in dragon form even at 0 dragon gauge until you're ready to go into a godmight burst window
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reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee someone make a mod that fixes ultrawide
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>>742969612
is Gallanzas whole gameplay just to spin?
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I just got to chapter 9 and I thought vane was gonna be my main because he seemed cool. I thought the support skill he has to block during Y attacks was gonna be like parrying mid combo but it really is just blocking while you unga bunga and your block will get broken and you still take chip damage.

Fuck man.
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Looking to build a support captain to carry my teams kicking and screaming through chaos diffs, what skills should I be running besides phalanx and sub?
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How is Clock Management Beabros during hectic fights?
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>>742969325
Crab is pretty fast since you just drop on an enemy and that's it
Gotta time it for when the boss is actually holding still though
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>>742969636
>rank 2 godmight mastery
ah I see, thanks. I'm not that far yet. I farmed out Gallanzas and Mags weapons but for some reason I ended up not liking either as much as I expected
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>>742967760
>Captain, Kat, Eugen, Rosetta, Percival
They were always rare
>Lancelot
His cheese playstyle was giganerfed so most of the people who didn't play him properly dropped him
>Sieg
His mastery levels are fucked up to the degree that I don't think they playtested him enough. Two of his trees punish you if you whiff a single perfect input (every perfect finisher gives a stacking buff, missing an input or dying wipes the entire stack of buffs, and it takes a solid minute or longer to build all of the buff stacks even with dodge cancels because of how long Sieg's combo is). While the third tree is fun and I've seen a few other Siegs carry lobbies with it, not everyone likes parry/substitution builds
>Rackam, Yoda, Ghanda
I've seen a couple in later missions
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Focusing on the questboard right no, does the conflux goes past Part5?
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>>742969726
You don't need to have both decide if you want
phalanx or sub then 2 damage skill then you can go for a heal for combat medic or run mist
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>>742969741
I'm not that experienced on her still. But I don't even know if you have to manage the clock. I just leave it on attack the whole time, and only sometimes realize I must have accidentally tapped Y and moved it
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>>742969017
>popular and will always steal mvp despite not being useful at all
That's me
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>>742969741
Sucks pretty bad. Can't move while charging it up or changing it so it feels pretty awkward.
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Is there anyone else other than Cagliostro that can do party wide attack buffing?
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>>742969890
mist is better, people tend to just heal themselves anyway and mist could prevent a oneshot on top of increasing dps
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Does anybody know if Rosetta's masteries drastically change her game plan? I wanna play her, but managing the flowers isn't all that fun.
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>>742969890
ty. can i be spoonfed a bit more and ask which damage abilities would be best?
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>>742969962
Ferry. But no one plays her anymore because she was horrible and gutted in the base game and no one knows how she's like now (probably still shit let's be honest).
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>>742969907
I'm more referring to her super mode draining while the boss is spazzing out.
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>>742969962
Fediel gives atk+def buff. She also as has a -30% def debuff with 100% uptime
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>>742969962
Fediel has a support build she can use
>Skill that buffs party's attack and defense
>Sigil that makes her stomp reduce enemy defense (up to 3 stacks)
>Skill that applies petrify (huge action speed slow and increased damage taken)
One of her mastery traits focuses on improving the buffs she provides
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They did something to Siegfried. His final big FUCK YOU attack on the perfect chain combo can't be aimed as well as before and pressing the button for the final attack often just... doesn't work. I used to get it very consistently now, they did something to fuck it up. I've been missing that final hit now more than ever before for some reason, and I've been playing the game since forever so I'm not rusty or anything. He just feels weird now.
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>>742969962
Zeta has one, I run it cause I just want to pogo anyways
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>>742969668
Most of the time yeah; You'd still want to time his finisher at the end of the spin or else you'll get dizzy and sit on your ass and have people laugh at you. The other two master trait styles either focus on the hop attack in Deathmatch Finale or skill attacks with Wild Showman stacks.
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Does conflux drop Luci mats besides one time rewards?
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Furycane was, and remains the worst of the three.
She shouldn't have gotten the ++fight
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So can you eventually get every single master perk? The additional gain at 50 feels a bit vague in it's description.
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>>742970076
I usually move to regen during that phase.
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They seriously need to nerf Charlotta.
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>>742970027
Decimate is a must its pretty much always up and your main damage tool then you can go with reginleiv or arrow rain whatever floats your boat
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>>742964816
You going to keep posting this retarded shit every thread?
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>>742969962
Sandy.
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>>742969416
>play the entire game unga bunga maxing with charlotta
>start using maglielle on chaos quests before even properly leveling her up
>mfw
That was a horrible idea, but I'm getting used to it.
I really miss being FUCKING INVINCIBLE while a boss is having a diarrhea of nukes all over the arena.
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>>742969994
Yep on top of phalanx your party shouldn't be going down easily
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Someone post the charlotta NOOOOO emote

Its still the best one
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>>742970430
Embrace the thoughts, anon. Don't be afraid of them.
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Zetabros WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED

why did they have to do this to her

I was gonna jump ship to lanselot but he got fucked even harder AHHHHHH
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>>742970551
do what

stop vagueposting buddy
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Tweyen bros what skills are you guys running? Now that buffs ignore damage cap I swapped Peerless Eye for Merculight and have Lethal rain, Depravity and Clincher as my damage skills. Two-Cron's Strife is way to intermitent for me to want to use and Valiant Weave and Wheel of Death just kinda suck so I don't use tham.
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>>742970575
Make her SHIT what else would I be screaming about in caps
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If you pop 2 damage cuts is the party just invincible like in the gacha game?
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I still don't know what exact buffs Bea gets from each clock, other than stout heart on defense.
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>>742970464
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Lmao no one plays Bea because of clockslop
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>>742970651
how? that's what's vague
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>>742970661
Defense is Stout Heart, Green is HP Regeneration and Red is Supplementary Damage basically. I don't know if they're actually the same effects or if they stack with the normal versions.
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>>742968281
>Cooldowns instantly reset after the dagger barrage
No fucking wonder I felt like her kit was missing something
Is that a mastery?
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what do we think of the sumo crab sigil? is it good when fully powered and how many completions to get there?
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>>742970661
Attack is damage+supplementary. Heal is regen+drain. Defense is damage reduction+stout heart. You ideally want to always be in attack but if your clock is ticking and the boss is doing a mechanic then you can just go in and facetank with defense.
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>>742970651
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>be me
>no idea what anything in this game is
>main Vaseraga because he looks cool
>never look up guides
>don't carea bout optimal build
>just play game
>somehow never die
>minmaxing autismos dying left and right
Lel
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>>742970946
I think the problem is like the other crab sigil where it doesn't have a 2nd slot and we already have a lot of mandatory bullshit hogging space
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>>742968620
white (italian)
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>>742970989
Minmaxers are dying because they play at super no HP mode and die when they get sneezed on
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does the against foe of weaker element dmg+10% work in war elemental shenanigans or it has to be actual elemental advantage?
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very cool, game
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>>742970778
>>742970957
cheers
I wish there was a way to change clock without having to interrupt your action.
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>>742968580
>what does elemental friction do?
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>>742962983
Be honest, how much do I need to look up meta tranny builds and guides to progress in this game
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>>742971129
war elemental specifically lets you get the elemental bonus regardless of the matchup

if you are already advantageous against the target, it does nothing
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They should've put this version of Gran in Relink
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zetabros do you just spam the normal attack during the normal rotation and during link time? it feels like the payoff of y-button/the slam after spamming the normal attack back to back isnt very worth it... am i wrong?
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>>742971197
None at all desu
The game is beatable with the shittiest character with a dumb ass build, as long as you pay some attention to damage caps
Meta tranny min maxxing is fun for some though
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>>742971197
There aren’t even really any guides out to follow right now so none of that matters.
Once you wrap your head around how damage cap works you can just intuit the rest of your build on your own.
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>>742971257
>manlet self insert becomes a chad
This never works. It makes fans get real insecure. Just look at the ending of Xenoblade 3.
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I have not seen a single video or person talking about gallanza. He's the only character from the dlc i care about what the fuck
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Do you farm the terminus weapons after Proto Bahamut or go straight into the chaos quest promotion underleveled? Or do I unlock Lucilius and farm him first?
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I am playing Fraux
My friend is playing Vaseraga
We started anew and are playing the story again
I am dealing half his damage at the best of times despite keeping on top of gauge recharges and popping skills whenever they come off cooldown.

Sigils don't come into it because we've only got two or three slots each currently and are only getting tier 1-2 sigils.

How does one play Fraux? I must be doing something terribly wrong or playing her incorrectly, because my mate's Vaseraga is hitting with the force of a Monster Hunter true greatsword charge
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>>742971164
you can just sigil combine it into whatever you want
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>>742971262
Get your mastery traits and you can bounce back into the air after you do hammers
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Relink 2 needs to be fully open world where you control the Grandcypher
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>>742971414
I thought 2 had the manlet who tried to go chad mode and look stupid
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>>742971164
you're gonna have a surplus of supp damage+ don't worry
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Are enlistments capped or is this playerbase genuinely retarded?
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>>742971441
Vaseraga is top 5 strongest characters and all of the dlc characters suck
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>>742971440
You can craft terminus weapons at the blacksmith now with material from the conflux mode
It's nice to have but you dont reallyyyy need it, since you'll swap off it once you start transcending your other weapons

Lucilius is harder than the Chaos quests so I wouldn't recommend farming him
If you want to farm him for Sandalphon or something you can get his flowers in conflux mode too

I'd say go into Chaos after proto bahamut and see how it feels. Chaos plus conflux gives a ton of free sigils
Remember to claim your trophies and stuff in the options menu for freebies
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>>742971414
They hate XB3 Rex?
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>>742971591
I'm seeing 5500 at the moment.
Are you refreshing the list?
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Oh I fucking figured out what it was with Concentrated Fire on Magielle earlier
It works on Gay Bulge and (and I think Freikugel?) but not the rest of her shit
22 levels of Concentrated Fire brought my damage capped % from ~115% to 160%
Doesn't do anything to her X/Y attacks or the hammer
So kinda pointless to use but that explains the retardedly past the cap numbers I was seeing when I tried before
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>>742971264
>>742971272
Not that poster, but I might require some watered down explanation myself. I'm in Chaos quests, doing fine, but I still have absolutely no fucking clue how to see if I'm hitting damage caps or not. I know there's a new damage cap percentage display, but even then I'm too retarded to figure out if things need to change.
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>>742971683
No, he's creating fictional scenarios for inane arguments. Tale as old as time.
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>>742971705
Looks like jap coding striking again.
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>>742971746
Go to the grancypher at the docks and mess with the dummy on board.
Pause>Practice menu
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>>742971746
BEEEAAAA WE NEED YOU
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>>742971787
Why is vane so boring
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>>742971746
>Go to the training dummy and enter training mode
>Enable damage cap percentage display with the Dpad or in the options menu
>Attack with your basic XXX combo
If you are above 100% then you are "wasting" damage. I.e you have more damage in your build than you can deal with your current cap. Therefore, you can unequip damage sigils and not lose damage.

>Attack with your XXXXY Combo
>Attack with your skills
Just look at the percentages. If you're at 130% then you're ""wasting"" 30% damage. If you're at 260% damage you probably have multiple sigils that don't do anything due to the damage cap
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>>742971262
>zetabros do you just spam the normal attack during the normal rotation and during link time?
Am sure her rotation now changed thanks to all her master traits but you used to do just Arves > Pogo to lift off > Hammer > repeat, cause Arvess had almost no CD
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>>742969761
What even was the cheese way to play Lancelot?
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>>742971414
What? People loves chad Rex!
>Specifically said Xenoblade 3, not future redeemed.
Wait, you mean Noah? You mean manlets feel bad over Noah overcoming his insane and cucked evil self (pic related)?
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>>742969962
Percival, he wants to use it for Molten Edge stacks
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>>742971746
>>742971802
in chaos, chaos+ and early chaos++ you'll naturally be way above your damage cap because transcendent weapons are op
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Sigil synthesis still makes me suicidal.
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>get your fate is over, retard at the start of luci chaos

I need someone to carry me, bros...
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>>742971986
You DON'T have to care about it. Whatever you find with transmarvels is good enough. Just let the chips fall.
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>>742971858
I enjoy flipping around with a giant hammer and tanking meaties. Vanes who use the invuln bubble skill are pussies, nobody needs that shit, especially now that Maglielle has a better one. Just keep stunning the enemy.
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The Bubs fight wont be nearly as kino if you didn't play Versus
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>>742971179
the target is weak to all elements, like if everybody equipped a war elemental
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>>742971935
flight over flight worked with his dodge attack
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>>742971424
why do you care if other people are talking about it or not?
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>>742971495
But he DID go chad mode, it was necessary too as he has THREE WIFES and needed all the stamina possible.
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adjusting sigils is a pain in the ass when you remember that summon boosts exist
at least substitute tanking will be easier now
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>>742972075
>Cygames pandering to a few hundred people
They really are soulful.
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>>742971865
>>742971964
ok I was sitting at like 145% with terminus weapon on, but I switched weapons cause I went way above the 45k HP cap now with masteries and Catastrophe isn't on anymore. Now normal attacks are at 60% and skills at 80%.

so I just gotta pump more damage shit in, huh? Any recommendations? Probably remove a Gamma and throw in something that gives damage?
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>>742972214
God I can't wait until I get his rank 3 mastery. I just want to counter and buff and sometimes perfect attack.
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>>742971726
>room wide attack range
>not ranged
ok
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>>742972075
Versus is not out on Switch 2 yet.
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>>742972278
Have you done weapon ascension stuff yet? Ascending your current weapon should do it
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I'm trying out Tweyen, is her charged combo finisher worth doing?
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>>742971630
Wait, Fraux isn't good...?

But she's SO HOT.

How do I reconcile this!?
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>been working all day and yesterday
>see footage online of Eternals bossfight online
>can't see anything that's happening over the effects spam
This is ridiculous lol
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This "MH like" game is a blessing in this shitty tineli where Capcom decided to pander to west by making MH extremely ugly and with massive desaturation of colors.
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>>742972170
Because I haven't finished the story yet and just wanna see stuff about him while I can't play.
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>>742972075
Same with Hexa and the gacha desu.
Not even the boss itself even.
Now if only the world was good...
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>>742972398
King of jobber
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I feel so free now with this DLC. Gonna assume I can remove more Damage Cap later, I'm still missing collection nodes.

Can't decide between Aegis, Quick Cooldown, or Uplift for that second DMG Cap sigil but I'll probably remove it anyways later.

Still need to make a x2 Supp sigil too.

>BIS character sigil for weapon but not the warpath one
bleh
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>>742972435
just play who you want dawg this game isn’t hard
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>>742972424
Pre-ER the optimal combo for single target damage and multilock hail gain was X - Charge X - Charge X - Charge Y - Y. Frankly I've found skipping the X charges and just making sure you get that charged Y isn't that much of a loss for the amount of effort put in.
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>>742972296
it's pretty fun and it's unironically salvaging siegfried for me.
he was fun before the dlc and i'm still very disappointed that two of his masteries are borderline unplayable if you fuck up a perfect input, the SBA cutscene change doesn't feel like it did much

I'm sure they'll feel better once everyone learns the fights perfectly, but it's insane to me that you'll need to spend minutes to build his perfect execution stacks with how easily you can lose them. I wouldn't mind them as much if it were only one tree, but they both suffer from the same problem of highlighting everything wrong with his perfect attack system.
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>>742971630
What are you basing them "sucking" off of?
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>cog's pain train gets massively gutted now, training dummy already shows 450%++ cap while it only deals 1m per cast (which is more or less point blank alexandria iirc)
>okay fine that means her Y charge is finally very strong to compensate right?
>try collapse trait
>collapse still suck ass
is support her only role now...
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>>742972910
the patch notes say it didn't get changed
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>>742962983
How do I load my auto-save? Went into my save menu to check whether it auto saved, saw a save there so I went back to main menu because I wanted to undo my Transmarvel rolls. But now I can only seem to continue my game from a Conflux save half a day ago. What's up with that?
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>>742973015
They futzed with a lot of caps/scaling.
The patch notes didn't include most of it
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>>742962983
Did the expansion have a "hidden" playable character like Id?
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>>742972693
>Frankly I've found skipping the X charges and just making sure you get that charged Y isn't that much of a loss for the amount of effort put in.
NTA but that's exactly what I do. Making sure you're hitting those charged Y attacks is more important than the potential loss when you get interrupted and need to restart the combo. Especially when you get the master trait that gives you a level of piercing gleam on every power finisher.
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Is Steam down?
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Does Fediel get stout heart something? No idea how I'm tanking through attacks.
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Now we're getting somewhere.
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>>742973849
She's huge, it just works.
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Leave the carry to me.
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>>742973849
I think it's part of her masteries? But yeah, she balks during spooky claws
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>>742971678
Oh, I stopped running Conflux after I saw progress was capped by advancing the story, I'll just try the Chaos mission. I was hesitant because I went into the Behemoth mission right after proto and it felt I was falling behind on everything.
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Does this stack with regular dmg cap sigil?
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>>742974029
Your reign will be short lived once the next balance patch arrives.
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Vane bros how are you building him? Going into a draw aggro Vane route with insight 3 seems pretty straightforward now that terminus weapons aren't mandatory but I'm stuck on what skills to use. Buffs being shared aside breakthrough stacks heroic vigor faster and Drachenstolz adds guts charges. Soul Eruption being the rare percent/full heal seems niche but possibly useful. Arm destruction still feels mandatory and vane without rampart feels like I'm doing something wrong

On a tangent but how well does Vane AI do now that they fixed him?
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>>742973153
Yaia
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Is there any way to get the quartz for the final terminus upgrade?
Might be another 0 situation if not.
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>>742974235
Yeah, but an attack/Hp/crit/stun power sigil really isn't ideal
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will buy it when it's 13 bucks.
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>>742974029
Yes my QUEEN
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fake thread
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>Chaos Furycane
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Is Flowery Seven mastery a meme? Kinda feels like it.
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>>742974278
Didn't you say that during the original game too?
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>>742974456
But you get +40% damage cap from 1 sigil or am I wrong?
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>>742974919
For all of those sigil-based nodes it only counts what the type of the first skill so an atk/crit sigil will still only give you 20% dmg cap
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Is anyone seriously trying to make this work? Do I need all three weapons for this shit?

Also why does Mag's SBA charge feel so bad? I have Uplift 11 (so far) and I'm always behind other players.
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>>742975016
That's unfortunate. Thanks for saving me time testing.
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>>742974662
It feels like it's her strongest spec desu.
Masssive utility in the atk down that no one brings, and the concentration circles are really limiting.
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So has anyone tried using Tweyen as an AI companion? She actually knows how to use her lock on so I wonder if she's good now.
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This game plays like a free to play version of genshin impact if genshin impact wasn't free to play.
and its pay to play too
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Cygames doesn't want Gran to be cool
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>>742975376
sure thing zhang
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>>742975076
i was watching the 168m mag dummy showcase and the sba gain seemed pretty good
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>>742975376
what

it's not even quickswap slop
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>>742975376
in no universe this is true
t. played genshit impact for years before getting bored
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>>742975418
But gran is already cool enough
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I hate furycane so much. Why did they have to bring THIS one back.
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>>742975376
it's genshin impact if the combat was actually good and it didn't have a money sucking gacha.
i'm not sure why you people even come into this thread to post these dumb ass comments.
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>>742975153
For reference I was testing it out with the defense sigils since the HP boost is easily visible. The atk one is super easy to get since practically everyone is already running at least 3 sigils that are forced to be attack-type(Spartan, WE, Berserker), but the other two are a bit more annoying to get. Like I had to transmute dmg caps and defense/support sigils until it landed with the defense/support as the base/first effect just so I can max out the +HP node
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>>742975763
>it's genshin impact if the combat was actually good
its combat is literally the same except you have 1 unit
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>>742975921
If it has the same combat, why doesn't genshin has a single boss that's even half as mechanically involved and a mid tier boss in relink? Fuck outta there with this shit.
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>>742975921
>its combat is literally the same
nobody's believing you, chang.
>except you have 1 unit
that's not a bad thing, character swapping is fucking retarded.
you're retarded.
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Do none of the new characters actually have ascendance levels to their weapons? You just just jump straight to the Transcendence level?
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>>742972910
To be fair she's really good at it.
>skill resetting rhizomata during bubs quest
I'm carrying random fuckers to a clear whether they like it or not NOW STOP TRYING TO GUARD THE ORBS YOU DUMBASSES
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>>742976019
it does its called the basic chore bosses you do in your dailies
>>742976043
>>742976043
>that's not a bad thing, character swapping is fucking retarded.
whats even more retarded is taking away character swapping while still being just as mechanically barebones
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How are you faggots even getting baited this easily, unless you're samefagging.
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>>742976127
New characters have 2 ascendance later into transcendence weapons on top of the 2 hp and crit transcendence weapons.
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>>742975921
huh? relink has 4 skills, 2 normals and an ult. genshin has 1 skill, 1 normal and an ult

>i-it has quickswap gameplay!
yeah, so it's not literally the same moron
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>>742976178
Is there a way to quickly cast the rez on people?
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>>742976237
character swapping was made because the game designers had to think of ways to sell people more than one character.
if you rolled the best character you would have no reason to roll the gacha, it's purely greedy design that has no benefit. you fell for it.
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this should have been a live service game
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I havent played yet and cant until I get home after work in 4 hours how fast can I unlock Beato?
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>>742976473
It might be heading into that direction
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>>742976550
instantly
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>>742976550
Instantly as long as you have Crewmate Tickets
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>>742976550
The moment you start. Doing conflux 1 and 2 gives a card and they're in the roster.
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>>742976346
You're right, having 3 more skills makes it an entirely different game. just kidding, it doesnt.
>>742976469
And despite that, it is still more mechanically complex than this game
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>>742976409
Her 2nd tier support mastery turns it global and also make it give phantasmagoria, which is great to keep uptime on the damage cap
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>>742976656
spending a thousand dollars on the gacha to have a functioning team is pretty mechanically complex, you got me there.
you can leave now, you have won the argument.
do not reply to me again.
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Is it possible for a sigil to roll warpath+another character sigil or can double character sigils only ever be the starter 2 with awakening+?
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>>742976656
there's obviously similarities, like both games not being turn-based for one. but it's not literally the same. genshin didn't invent arpgs with skill cooldowns and ultimates
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>>742973627
It's tuesday, steam always goes down for a bit
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>>742976742
Average granblue player when confronted with the truth.
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please someone join :(
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>>742976569
>>742976628
>>742976632
nice time to nuke everything as Io and turn my brain off when I can
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>>742976896
sorry bro, i'm starting a new save
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>>742976831
Inventing it is irrelevant to them playing the same, which they do.
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>>742976749
>Is it possible for a sigil to roll warpath+another character sigil
no, warpath+ can only roll generic subtraits like stamina, nimble onslaught, guts etc.

>can double character sigils only ever be the starter 2 with awakening+
yes
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>>742969741
I've found a good rhythm for it. i'm also starting to see the dev's vision for her regen mode.
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>tfw sitting in the slime mines for mastery levels
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>742976971
not really because there is no quickswap. or else every arpg with skill cooldowns and ults are genshin clones, which is obvious nonsense
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>>742976887
average chinkslop fan having to go into threads about other games to fight for their million dollar corporation.
i don't know what "truth" you are even talking about, none of these games are "mechanically complex" and even if they were there is no measurable benefit to one being "more complex" than the other. you don't even have an argument.
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Is there any better feeling than summoning quakadile during link time?
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So is Beatrix good or no?
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>>742977081
Clockslop
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>>742977081
She's cockslap.
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>>742977105
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Tried the rank up quest. Both maglielles at all the critical timer.
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>>742975418
>have classes as main feature
>never shown them exist in main or side stories except Djeeta OVA
I wanna see Gran/Djeeta as Viking is that too much to ask?
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>>742977037
Just progress anon.
The later quest give you 50k each and actively work towards terminus transcendence
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>>742977315
Just use the fucking super saiyan blue eternal forms or something I have no idea why they always use base Grandjeeta
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>>742977054
quickswap just gives you more hotkeys to press. this is a game with mechanics even more barebones than even genshin. You have to split the thinnest hairs just to pretend its not the same.
>>742977056
>make fun of chinkslop
>play gacha property anyway
self awareness of average granblue player be like

the benefit to being more complex is having engaging gameplay. When the entirity of your game consists of rotating through your 4 skills over and over, it is not engaging. Not a difficult concept to comprehend.
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Anyone wants to play the rest of my proud quests?

Session ID: DBNA Y9HJ CM28 U5VC
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>>742972184
>fauxhawk reminiscent of vandham's pompadour
it was kino
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>>742975376
What's is it with the rampant SEAnigger gacha spam in these threads?
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>>742977821
SEAniggers build their whole identity around their dumbfuck free phone games
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>>742977821
botters being paid to astroturf their competitors by shitposting.
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>>742972278
the damage necessary to reach cap is extremely easy to get. a single stamina/tyranny/life on the line/concentrated effect, etc. should be enough to reach and exceed your damage cap.
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>>742977412
which ones?
I was slimeblasting my way to master level 50 because the matchmaking for the postgame is kind of slow since not everyone has gotten that far yet
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>>742972484
bruh wilds is so fuckin bad unironically
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>>742978031
i'm temporary burnt out after rushing to bubs, it's crazy how some people just keep on going.
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Who is the most unga bunga braindead playstyle of the new characters?
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>>742976473
People have been barking up that tree since the release of the original game. They have a triple digit stable of characters to pull from but at the same time it's way more effort and resources than what they're used to with GBF, which is releasing a PNG of a character with a chibi model for a turn based browser game and having it make them a billion yen.
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>>742978246
Gallanza is ultra gorilla mode
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>>742978031
Any of the post final boss chaos ones.
The dragons/skeleton/golem are all pretty quick queues
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>>742977315
I want to be Nekomancer and everyone has to take me seriously in my gay cat outfit or I'm telling Bahamut.
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>>742963289
Pretty sure mag and fraux are broken as shit
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BEA GUIDE
activate buff that makes clock better
build clock by spamming skills and finishers
when clock is full, spin clock one full circle
spam skills and finishers with BIG clock
BEA GUIDE ADVANCED
red clock gives more damage but also DoTs you
green clock gives health regen
yellow clock gives BIG damage reduction and stagger immunity
use red clock at full health or when boss isn't moving
use green clock when health isn't full
use yellow clock during bullet hells or when boss is moving too much for red to be BIG value
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>>742978779
Can I get a Bea guide for Bea players?
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>>742978246
fediel is literally just x mashing and skills
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>>742978246
Gallanza obviously
Fediel low-key
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>>742978779
I really hate her clock gameplay. It's so clunky and unintuitive to actually swap to a different mode that I constantly feel like I'm interrupting the flow of combat to do so which at that point I'd rather just stay in attack mode.
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>>742978813
BEA GUIDE FOR BEA PLAYERS
clock buff = use
press button = get clock
clock full = spin clock
press button = get damage
BEA GUIDE ADVANCED FOR BEA PLAYERS
red = dmg
green = hp
yellow = tank
red for hit
green for heal
yellow for no die
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>>742979008
thanks, beabro.
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>>742976178
do you think she should still max terminus weapon or better go all in on support and max that stunner weapon just for faster links?
i still have tiny little hope in her no charge collapses from tier 3 crippling combos on top of whatever burn/poison ticks deals but super steroid phantasma alone sounds much more appealing for whatever busted chars now
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Rock Howard for Relink
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>>742979115
Any time, friend
I also recommend RIDING FREE and the jump attack to stay on top of enemies
In other words: Enemy move? Press button = enemy no escape
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>>742978246
Gallanza and Fediel.
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The Siete and Song fight was pure fucking kino.
A little too many mid fight cutscenes but I'll let it pass as it's a one off and not a quest designed for grinding something.
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>>742979335
So for skills you run something like Riding Free, Thunderbird, Rising Nova and Embrasque? I haven't really found a set that I really like other than running Riding Free and Thunderbird.
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>>742979417
they should've made it Sarasa and Okto
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ER seems waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more soloable than Relink, this boosts are insane
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>>742979523
I replaced Embrasque with the dodge because I never felt like I had time to stand still and charge it
The dodge also lets you get instant finishers if you actually dodge something with it but the increased mobility is good regardless
You will cycle Riding Free, finishers and Thunderbird during link time with zero downtime
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>>742979725
What do you do when the enemy is flipping out and your Devour Mode is wasted, how do you get back into it quickly?
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>>742979858
Spam skills and finishers. They build up the meter really fast
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What is the move where Fraux does a backflip and kicks the Fire ball in the air? I haven't seen that in her skills.
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>>742979561
Seems like they're trying to make this version last for years even when online dries up while the original was just more them putting a game out because they had all the assets and ideas from the canceled Platinum Games version. They definitely wanted Versus to be the more successful game since it's an esports title. Damn shame they decided to make the roguelite dungeon diving thing only single player though.
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>>742980217
I have a very strong feeling they will patch in multi later.
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>>742979561
I did a run of lucilius post release and now the AI are really good at the circles and feathers. They've been made more competent.
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Is eugen still worth maining these days?
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>"just stay out of the yellow circle bro"
>entire ground becomes yellow
>also hide behind this pillar to avoid the spinny ice lazer but actually fuck you because it becomes a hazard too
Fuck this game. That flying eyeball boss is a fucking nigger.
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How is Bea gonna scale endgame. A lot of her moves leave her open to get hit out of the air.
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>>742980492
It’s baffling that it isn’t so I hope you’re right



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