NEW DIALOGUE PATCHED IN FOR FRIEND VIA MEWMEW
"IF" AND "WHEN"BUT NEVER "IS"
POTENTIAL_FRIEND
Keep bullying Toby
>there is a non-zero chance toby saw this and got upset
Mew Mew tells us to run and hide from the cats.But I'm not a coward.
On one hand>FRIEND lore gives alot to talk aboutOn the other hand>this was almost absolutely toby seething that people stopped caring about FRIEND this chapter
>>742966687He got extremely assmad over Asgore's truck meme so he's probably been seething ever since the NormalNPC memes started popping up
You know what I really like about this series? Whenever a cutscenes ends and you regain control your character seems as if it's looking at (you).
>>742967169>He got extremely assmad over Asgore's truck memehe did? i missed that somehow
>>742967079I'm most annoyed that it's a net Mew Mew aura loss. It could've been good for her, but it wasn't because toby chose the bad localization larp over smooth dialogue.
Qrd?
>>742967578It wouldn't bother me so much if it wasn't completely at odds with all her other dialogue
>>742967727Mewmew knows friend
I thought of something
>>742967281NTA but i remember hearing people got banned for mentioning it in the 10th anni stream
what if you had a girl friend
>>742966393Lamest epic lore reveal yet
>>742967897I don't entirely understand what's going on but I like it.
>>742962198
>>742966393fuck off back to /vg/ you retarded trannies
>>742967749The bones of a really good scene are there. She sees Kris injured, and gets concerned, explaining the things she's worried about as she treat's Kris's wound. It could be extremely cute, but it's hard to connect to a character who's speaking ESL. The markers that would indicate her emotion are hidden by her strange word choice.
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SAVE ME TOBY SAMA
>>742966393
HOW DID YOU ENJOY THE "PROPHECY" I MADE UP, ANON?
Heh, you haven’t even begin to see vagueness.Watch THIS
>>742968024fug
>>742968094He's just like me frfr
Green Pippins (Battat) my beloved.
>>742968094I prefer the smiling version
>>742967897I love your big booba design, drawfren.
>>742968293Someone need to edit this so Noelle is in the overlap space with "has been a target of friend". It was jumping on her roof in the fucking light world.
I’m certain that toby has no real idea what friend is or what direction he is going to go with friend. He’s just reacting to the community and adding stuff retroactively. My theory is that friend back in chapter 2 was literally just supposed to be a spooky face and nothing else
>>742968326The poker face one is my edit. I felt like it's more in-character for Batter.
Where I'm at:NormalNPC is analog to SusieERAM is analog to RalseiKnight is analog to Kris Dremurrs are to flowers as Holidays are to cats Roaring Angel side A and Fallen Star side BMountains of Madness Holiday Mansion ERAM = Seam Kris is the Vessel but with added time Hometown is HappytownRalsei is in the pipes
>>742968396True, it's more in-character The grinning one makes the pic funnier imp
>>742966393There has been zero payoff for any of this "FRIEND" shit the entire game. It's just speculation for the sake of speculation and people hyping themselves up because something might possibly happen, with that 'something' also being up for speculation.
>>742968386Someone compared friend to the goats from Umineko and it clicked immediately. Friend represents the audience who will pick meat from the bones of this story until there's nothing left.
>>742968105It's more like her dialogue is completely different style from how she speaks in every other scene, not even during the "date" does she ever spam mew that much.It feels like it was written by a completely different person from who wrote all the other Mewmew scenes.
name a character more relevant than spamtonpro tip: you can't
>>742968542>impimo
>>742968024This is just the mom from Litterbox comics cosplaying
>>742968705Noelle
She won
>>742968705noelle
>>742968640That's because it's actually Pink speaking instead of Maddie. Pink is the one who says Mew, and before this, she hasn't gotten more than two lines in a row.
>>742967079Dumbass shouldn't have roped FRIEND into his Mike faggotry, then. That singlehandedly killed interest in FRIEND because he was shitting on people for caring about FRIEND in the first place.
>>742968705>name a character more relevant than spamtonGaster
>>742968705SPAMCHAD will NEVER be topped.
Toby will patch in new tidbits every 2 weeks from now until the next chapter release to make the WAIT fun.APOLOGIZE FOR HATING CH5, NOW.
I have cracked the caseAsriel was attacked by FRIENDs and his protein was stolen until he turned into a skeletonSans = 'Sriel After Not SurvivingAsriel's been back in town all along to kick ass and bone his own mom and he's all out of ass
How big is a FRIEND?
>>742968603What are the goats from umineko I haven’t played it
>>742968705it's so boring how the cat is mostly a worse version of spamton
>>742968740No one else matters.
>>742968236If only Gaster was as hot as moogi
>>742968821>here the shit I shat>but I added some flakes
>>742968762>PLEASE DON'T REUPLOAD THIS IMAGE I POSTED ON THE INTERNET GUYS PLEEEAASSEEWhy are some artists so fucking retarded? If you don't want it to be reposted then don't post it at all, fag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgxj0rE2pzUIs "Black Knife" a motif in this?
>friendSHIT>everymanSHIT>dessSHIT>freedom motifSHIT>lost girl motifSHIT
>>742968256This changes EVERYTHING!
>>742968705
>>742968827But we know what Adriel's skull looks likeIt's look more like a goat skull surely?
for some reason there has been a clear, deliberate effort to avoid mentioning the word "determination" in deltarune
Apologize
sooo are we still going to pretend that this egg hunt lore tidbit is mindblowing when we were aware of FRIEND for years?
>>742968848They generally represent the weakest servants of witches, but in the final episode they take on the role of the audience picking apart the story's mystery.Also you should play it. At this point it's required reading for deltarune with how many parallels there are.
Just how crazy will she get?
based on a post from last thread
>>742968916No idea
>>742968848at the start they are just mindless slaves that serve witches, by episode 8 they are the personifications of the audiences theories and want for the story to end in tragedy
>>742968916You have to be a bit wrong in the head to be an artist
>>742967079>>this was almost absolutely toby seething that people stopped caring about FRIEND this chapter
>>742968024Entire game is actually Does, dragons and cats wanting to reach the human protein.
fixed sprite
>>742967079>this was almost absolutely toby seething>>742968807>he was shitting on people for caringTHE RAPED
>>742969035why does kris not have a boner in any of these
Tobyfox has some serious BPD about this friend stuff I swear
>>742968916Because they've been indoctrinated that copyright is a sensible idea and it's right that artists control their works entirely.
How likely is it that Asgore somehow got (You) killed at some point during his police days and the reason he's trying to collect his old notes as evidence is so he can prove that the Dark Fountain, or something else, was responsible?
>>742968848the game creator was seething and put his online critics into the game as supernatural antagonists that then got BTFO by shotguns, magic blasts, etc. It is one of the most embarrassing things you'll ever sit through in a work of fiction.
>>742969127soul soulless soulless
>>742967275>Message ends>Character position: face downIt's literally that easy in RPG Maker, when are you making your own Deltarune anon?
>>742966393Friends*They're pack animals. Minions.
>>742969127you ruined his face
>>742969127
>>742969153Poor art design
>>742968094>>742968326What if the Vessel returns but they act like the Batter?
>>742968640>It feels like it was written by a completely different person from who wrote all the other Mewmew scenes.I get we're supposed to hate Mew Mew n shit but sometimes you guys just make up anything for criticism
>that meme about Spamelle being the perfect deltarune character remains true even after chapter 5GODDAMNIT
>>742968293Battat, Mad Dummy and Berdly are literally just Anons straw man parodies in the game>Battatyou tube theorist schizo>Dummythe self inserter>Berdlythe harem protag dating sim playerNone of them are actually important. Just point out the mentality of Toby being aware of his audience.
>>742969153He knows it's (You) that has changed him and changed Noelle. Even if he enjoys it, he hates himself for it too much to reciprocate.
Eram is SeamI'm pretty sure the plushie that Asriel and presumably Dess had as a toy has serious baggage going on
>>742969008Queen mentioned it in Chapter 2 but agreed, probably because we don't actually have the power to change fate we had in Undertale with us yet.
>>742968024Imagine that tail hitting your prostate
>>742969291spamelle is shit
>>742968821Add the kriselle date or it doesn't matter
>>742969290I need that stomping animation.
>>742968293Bro better watch his back, Onion already became a victim
>>742969290>the forced game dialogue that even she gets upset at being forced to speak is actually how she talks, bro!ok buddy
>>742968821>>742968904*Crumbs
>>742969127it's funnier when he's a little glooby
>>742968705Pink and Yellow was always about Noelle and Susie. Chapter 6 is confirmed to be about Friend, Suselle, Krusie and Kriselle. Its all resolved in that chapter. I assume Toby will try to release it on Valentine's day.
>>742968024far more erotic than any character design toby has ever made. i kneel
>>742969360i'd rather it be his penis
>Tony is seething!>Tony is assmad!Parasocial latinx hours.
>>742969367yeah man
What if FRIEND is a female and very lustfull?
>>742969427Anon, you know Pink is two characters, right?
Be careful with who you call ugly in middle school(seriously though, why was my thread deleted? I can't find it in the Archive)
>>742969302And they're all chads despite that
>>742969427???Buddy it’s legit two fucking people.
>>742966393What exactly was the lore reveal here? I just read it. Something about cats and protein. Someone explain it to a brainlet such as myself
>>742969302But he enables mad dummy he hates self invertersWhere the real Legend of Delta Rune I don't think this catgirl was part of it
>>742967578>toby chose the bad localization larp over smooth dialogue.Every time you seethe that Deltarune is a Japanese game you only reveal that you're brown, by the way
>>742969528Is the Dummy meant to be shaped like Everyman?
>>742968848they're very cool guys
>>742969559Something something friend
>>742969180episode 8 is kino and only fags think otherwise
>>742968917HELPIT SHOULD BE AT 1:06 AS THE WHISTLESIS BLACK KNIFE ACTUALLY IN THIS SONG
>>742969559if you collect the eggs you get mauled to death by lions
>>742969035Why did Toby made sure to make Noelle erotic but only reserved Susie to be goofy and wholesome???
>>742969427>that even she gets upset at being forced to speak is actually how she talksDude did we not fight the same boss? Do you not realize that Mew Mew herself is voicing those thoughts? The person getting angry isn't Mew Mew dude
>>742969515I sometimes consider a Dess friend theory based on flowey being asriel and the (Dremurr, Flower)~(Holiday, Cat) association
>>742969284Too late to matter the damage has already been done>>742969291
>>742969180>the game creator was seething and put his online critics into the game as supernatural antagonists that then got BTFO by shotgunsuhhh, based?
>>742969427THEY ARE LITERALLY 2 NIGGAS
>>742969447ey toby mang...why you hate messicans now mang
LoreCHADS wonned. We WILL be finding out more about Gaster and FRIEND and they are BOTH relevant to the plot
>>742969659Because she's crazy about (YOU)
>>742969046Is this NTR? Like the manga where the dude think about his girlfriend having sex with other dude and waking up with a boner?
Guys surely Catti will be important in the chapter that sets up cats as a major element RIGHT?
>>742969427threadly reminders that doomposters haven't played the game and only see things through twitter clips
>>742969427And then niggas will say>Ermm the message about the Kris/Soul parallel is obvious! We didn't need a boss about that
>>742969659Crazy yandeer or NTRdoe, pick wisely
>>742969517>>742969549>>742969660>>742969686what the fuck are you people smoking? she doesn't split until later on in the battle, and those are canned dating sim lines. she is being forced to say them, it does not reflect her own speaking style.
>>742969059Protein status:0%
>>742969046Based drawfren
>>742969659Toby got mad more people wanted to do the dinosaur than rape the doe
Should I replay chapter 5 now?
>>742967079>make fun of people for caring about FRIEND with the mikes>"OOOOOUGH THE CHAPTER OF PINK AND GOLD! THE FRIEND COLORS!">teaser image when color inverted is FRIEND's colors>tease a cat themed secret boss with seam...>CHAPTER 5>only friend appearance is the same PNG as usual, but this time red so pink and yellow has no relevance>the blue flowers in the website image are just for the fag flower, so the inverted image means nothing.>meanwhile NormalNPC is actually doing crap>the final secret boss was fucking MEWMEW after teasing a cat themed bossyeah no shit people stopped caringyank the mystery box away too many times and people will just turn somewhere else.
>>742968917>>742969625I don't have a good enough ear to say what it is but it's not "Black Knife"(/"The Door/The Chase/Nightmare Knight")
>>742969559people are just mind broken over puking out theories for almost nine years now
>>742969683It was one of the most insecure things I've ever seen. Like they would literally spout their actual forum post or whatever making valid criticisms of the plot then there would be a dramatic monologue about how evil and stupid they were for daring to do so.I know sometimes something is so cringe it wraps around to being based, but not in this case. Ryukishi is just a retarded fag that couldn't seal the deal after his ghost writer died
>>742969026NTA but I already read it years ago and I don't think it's that goodDeltarune feels much more cohesive since it knows how to handle the "illusions" much better by integrating dark world into the real world, rather than making it look like a mask for what's actually happening in the real world like Umineko did. Oh and Deltarune doesn't do bullshit like "unreliable narrator" or "Battler wasn't there so this scene can't be real"
>>742968094Are there any CoLcore games
>>742969728That is a panel from the ending of Attack on Titan
>>742969792anon ralsei LITERALLY says>you are a ghost lightener and that body you posses has become a darkener of their ownIT'S TWO PEOPLE
>>742969559Ever heard of curiosity killed the cat?well, think the other way around
>>742968821>a new lore vaguepost gets patched in every 2 weeks>the game transforms on a meta level in real time to match up with the shitstorm coming in the next chaptersAnd this is to go even further beyond
>>742969863Can't help that I was more focused on actually trying to beat the boss
>>742969837Maybe if this dipshit retarded dog gave us some concrete information so we weren't effectively still recycling the same core beats from 2018 and 2021 it wouldn't have gotten this deranged.
>>742969871The cat killed curiosity? Huh… I don’t get it
>>742969659Beautiful doe with flowing blonde hair vs smelly homeless lesbian lizardIt's just in their natures, anon
>>742969791>NTRdoeNah. Noelle forgets about Susie whenever Kris gives her even a little bit of attention. The NR Noelle is still not lost.
>>742969153>gets boner over this>doesn't with dommy mommy NoelleMaybe the doe not tall enough?
>>742969914do you just skip the dialogue between turns?
>>742969820People thought friend would play a knight-tier role in ch 5 leading up to it ffs
>>742969180The stuff with Mike made me suspicious but all the nonsense with chapter 5 and this latest update now confirms that the same thing is happening here too. This is going to be a messy trainwreck.
KRIS HAND STATUS?
>>742969046I don't know how much is parallel thinking but a lot of Deltarune is SNK-coded
>>742969830I can't hear it, this is a new melody or just something from chapter 5.The closest it comes is around 1:00 of Black knife.
>>742969972Yeah
>that chair is going to kick your assanother nothingburger
>>742969914speed readers must be banned from all discussion
what would you guys have done if you saw your mom dancing with some random stranger in the middle of the night?
Who is the one guy we know Toby specifically noticed?
>>742969846>Oh and Deltarune doesn't do bullshit like "unreliable narrator" or "Battler wasn't there so this scene can't be real"the kris - heart things is literally there to pass as an unreliable protagonist and the prophecy brainwashing thing is absolutely an excuse for awful character writing
>>742970062CoL
What is the relation between friend and the mistery man?
>>742970003used up
>>742969820>make fun of people for caring about FRIEND with the mikesYou mean "make fun of people retarded enough to jump to the conclusion that the old business associate Spamton wistfully remembers is the Evil Gaster Rape Face in Queen's Evil Rape Basement"You lost, by the way
>>742969127Undertale's art is dogshit, do not imitate
>>742969985>all the nonsense with chapter 5 and this latest update now confirms that the same thing is happening here tooWhat do you mean?
>>742970052i don't careit's not my problem
>>742969180God I remember clicking through that shit just thinking "okay bro now reveal who the killer is" and he never did, not all the way to the very end. What a dogshit VN. Wow lets make a murder mystery without solving the mystery, how subversive, what's next how about a heist thriller where we never actually fucking steal something. then maybe a romantic comedy where the two never actually get together. FUCK I hate modern "writers"
>>742967942I think you're thinking of the Kanye West/Fingers In His Ass thing when Asgore's theme started playing, but maybe that happened too and I forgot.
>>742969963That's just your wild imagination, krusiefag.
>>742970168Friend is an allegory for sexual assault and raped mewmew
>>742970139toby has been making shit up as he goes and has been caving to fan pressure the last ten years
beat my meat 3 times today and I still want to do it more
>>742969595toby is a white man and speaking like a dipshit won't change that
NormalNPC being the closest thing Gaster has to a Susie is funny to me so it's my interpretation. At least you can bullshit on their gender which you can't with "everyman". But the knight seems way more likely so I'm just misreading it.ERAM being female seems unlikely due to the prince deal but if Ralsei can trans and still qualify maybe that prince moniker is just a title And the vessel still is us for it as the knight isn't likely to be human.
>>742970052What my mother does in her free time is her business.
>>742970139Friend is just another meta element that represents people picking apart the game bit by bit, and in the end it will have to do with Kris's relationship and character being picked apart.Literally it's just Toby seething that he can't have Suselle NTR yurislop. All of this, alllll of this, is because everyone fucking hated it and he thought it would be "Really cute".
>>742969559friend is a hunterthere are multiple friends (this could've been intuited by ch3 but this explicitly confirmed it)friend goes after protein adding on to the last point, in ch4 queen alludes to having fruit and meat in her castle walls, which is where friend is first sighted, while on an errand for spamtonother people have been hunted by friend, and they wear a disguise or go into hiding, a descriptor that fits a number of characters we know mew mew knows someone who once had a whole pack of friends, which could range from noelle to gaster himself
>>742967079>this was almost absolutely toby seething that people stopped caring about FRIEND this chapter
>>742969839Wtf this guy had a ghost writer? Or are you memeing?
>>742970168friend might just be a super secret hard fight you can only get if you got all the eggs>won't stop until they get boredsounds like an allegory for the players trying to get everything
>>742969559those hunting for the truth (eggs [protein]) are targets of what hides in the dark (FRIEND [cats])
>>742970206?He showed it was anges parents retard
>>742969985>The stuff with Mike made me suspiciousOh my god, this is why, this is where all the seething is coming fromFRIEND finally being spelled out as its own thing is the final humiliation for MikefagsToby is forcing them to accept that they were raped from the start
>>742969127sonic arm color tier bs
>>742970236Close. It's an allegory for the sweltering summer of 1997.
>>742969957noelle and kris arguing over who should be king and queen only makes sense if kris is a girl btw
>>742969830>>742970036>>742968917>>742969625https://xcancel.com/mimiweaver_/status/2072401999467811086definitely black knife
>>742969985faggots really can't accept the fact that mike was something toby just wrote on the fly as spamton schizo dialogue and are still seething to this day
>>742969447>JUST LET ME WIIIIIIIIIN!!!!!!!!!!- all the people that want toby to be literally shitting and crying
>>742970336Mike was always meant to be a fucking alias wasn't he?
>>742969559FRIEND wants to drain the balls of Kris from all the protein. Sex 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Susie and Noelle will lose their will to fight.
>>742970312>sounds like an allegory for the players trying to get everythingA friend who stays until the very end, even if you'd rather they didn't.
>>742968705Me
>>742968101seethe harder faggot
>>742970303Strong falloff in writing quality after a close friend of his died and part 6 got delayed for it
>leave a bunch of plot hooks and random mysteries around>uhhhhhh how dare you make me address these mysteries and pick apart these mysteries don't you know I'm emulating david lynch???
>>742970003bitten by the cat
>>742970293>he thought it would be "Really cute".Radiation thought it would piss off everyone and he likes doing that, but Toby Fox enjoys being liked by people.
>>742968603>friend is time jannies
>>742969914They argue immediately after the first date segment
>meat factory comes directly after happy townohoh no
>>742968917it's black knife yes
Do you guys think will we ever get a world sprite, face portraits, and vocal bleats for adult Asriel Dreemurr? Even in an epilogue?An epilogue would require an ending where most of everything works out, wouldn't it?
>>742970470>Im David lynch!Introduce gaster with a club silencio tier scene then
>>742970110
>>742970496cant wait to buy fish fingers from normalNPC
>>742969942What's the context for the sprite of her looking flushed while sitting on the ground? Is that normal route? I only did Weird Route in ch5.
>>742969515The Chara is FRIEND cracktheory is reborn.
>>742970538toby introducing gaster in the most comedic weird way possible would be lynchian but people would get mad at it and claim deltarune isn't taking itself seriously.
findher
NormalNPC is gaster's attempt at making a Susie It went uhhh
>>742970574That's normal route after Susie carried Noelle
>>742970489You're wasting your time, he didn't play the game.
>>742970574>What's the context for the sprite of her looking flushed while sitting on the ground?Yurishit
>>742970125im sorry toby but if you want people to theorize about your mysterybox cat character then you cant make fun of them for being wrong.
>>742970615And Noelle is what, just bewildered that she's now in a relationship with Susie or something? She looks like a lunatic which would be fine for the Weird Route
I brought it up on the other thread, but is it just me seeing some similarities with what we know of Friend and the Hounds of Tindalos?I am tired as shit since I didn't sleep at all last night thanks to the Friend lore nukes, so I probably didn't elaborate the best, but there's some pretty esoteric yet interesting connections.
>Fans rejoice for Friend revelation and advancement of plot>Mystery Box Niggers cry and shriek like Cailou
Finally
>>742969914You didn't beat the game.
So is "mystery box" the new buzzword that seething mikefags will parrot whenever they can't come up with a substantive critique (which is always)?
The cat wrangler has to be Alphys, right?
>>742970609"Lynchian" he's not fucking Homer is he? Doesn't really deserve to be imitated
Imagine if in earthbound you had to wait until the towns existed to get the eight meoldies instead of you being proactive and actually going there yourself to get themThat's what deltarune is doing and it doesn't feel like an adventure at all
This UPDATE was PROOF that TOBY was PISSED at his UNGRATEFUL audience and will now deliberately SABOTAGE his GAME
I love doessy, that's all.
Nobody cares but I doodled aqua at some point. I'll never finish it cause drawing is boring and lame and I'm just bad at drawing and I decided to sell my tablet.
>>742969820Most of this is right but>make fun of people for caring about FRIEND with the mikesThe Mike room pokes fun at other theories but when it comes to IMAGE_FRIEND the Mikes hype it up as a real thing with FRIEND being in airwaves and the comment about biting.>>742967079I think he just realized a genuine mistake on his part on not advancing the lore enough. If FRIEND was going to be a boss next chapter it would not have worked at all with the jack shit build up it got in chapter 5. It would have been terribly built up.
>>742970759Yeah you suck ass. Give up
>>742970727>Imagine if in earthbound you had to wait until the towns existed to get the eight meoldies instead of you being proactive and actually going there yourself to get themIt's called Mother 3
>>742970125>You lostWhat is it a competion for? Being Toby's biggest cocksucker? What's wrong with retarded theorizing? And I say that when I don't even care about those theories, I'm just trying to understand, how does it affect Toby in his daily life?
>>742970125i really like how people are still so mad about this when it's a random fight added at the end of chapter 4 that is completely out of the way of the story. but mikefags can't let it go that he never existed.
>>742970754He did that when he made a second stalling fountain.
>>742970727>Imagine if in earthbound you had to wait until the towns existed to get the eight meoldies instead of you being proactive and actually going there yourself to get themYou just described Mother Encore
>>742970742Stupid dino need to figure out if she wants the human or the doe.
>>742970336FRIEND is Mike was always kinda dumb myself.
>>742970759draw her toes retard
>>742970574That's her recovering after she confessed to Susie and confronted her mom at the same time and basically came on the spot
>>742970759cute Aqua
>>742970410C'mon now, Azzy is better than those people, at least he accepted his loss.
>>742969820>make fun of people for caring about FRIEND with the mikessaying this after an update that puts more emphasis on friend, more than anything mike has ever gotten is really funny. no one gives a fuck about mike
SO...are we getting ARG emails for Chapter 6???
there is a non-zero chance this cat STILL barely ends up amounting to anything, so i hope you guys are still prepared for that possibility
>>742970687I can't understand if people actually think toby added this scene out of maliciousness or not
>>742970727Earthbound isn't really much more of an adventure since all you can do is to go to the next dungeon anyway. There's no exploration there either.
>>742969927Exactly. Or rather cat killed the curious.
>>742970706Not a chance, she doesn't own any cats and didn't even know who was actually drinking the milk she left.There's no way she could wrangle anything
>>742970790Yeah i don't like mother 3I want an actual adventure, not a "wait for things to happen to you" game
>>742970668>you cant make fun of them for being wrong...Why? Because it will hurt their feelings?Will they get embarrassed, and seethe about it for years?
I wonder what the 1225 update will be
>>742970701Toby is a mystery boxin', vague postin', potential mannin', spiteful postin', fan hatin', hussie lovin', retcon pushin', tranny lovin', theorybaitin', irony poisoned HACK
>>742970701'Mystery Box' isn't new, and it's been an insult used against the JJ Abrams style of 'I'll make shit up and it's so mysterious because not even *I* know what's going to happen next!' for years.>>742970831Oh, Carol is in Ch5 normal?
>>742970759Based drawfren
>>742970496FRIEND is the ultimate vorefag confirmed.
>>742966393at least Tony's willing to acknowledge when his vagueposting mysteryboxslop goes too farwould've been nice if he'd written the chapter BEFORE needing to get it beaten into him by the Hometown Butcher, but still
>>742970786No dude you don't get it. Toby has a personal vendetta against me and him dropping a cool lore tidbit is all part of his demented revenge scheme.
We have to consider Toby waited an entire year before he made the spookier UT fun events accessible without editing the game. The FRIEND patch shit might just be an attempt at "controlling"/"curating" the fandom experience with the pacing he desires. Whatever that's good or bad I'll let you decide.I personally don't get what's the point on WAITING two weeks for something like this. Somewhat interesting but also awkwardly phrased.
>>742970668>then you cant make fun of them for being wrongauthors making fun of their fans is actually a good thing thoughbeit
>>742970706it's alphys, noelle, or gasterleaning more towards alphys because she's associated with both mew mew and cats more prominently than noelle is in game
I pray to fucking God that Toby doesn’t make the last two chapters plot dumps for lore brains. PLEASE. Nobody gives a single fuck about Gaster or Friend, they have 0 plot relevancy. Keep the story focused on Susie, Noelle, and Ralsei. If you’re going to appeal to the lorebrains just do ambiguous little hints
>>742970902I think it's more of damage control than anything, got to give people something to discuss for the next year
>>742970521Undertale Asriel already had voice bleeps for his adult self.
>>742968094Finally a professional in this shithole
>>742970468Crazy. Some day we're going to find out Toby had a ghost writer too...
>>742970609CHIPS AHOY LANDFAGGOTS
I am a bit disheartened that most of the major pieces of music were made by someone else
Reindeer boobs in my mouth
>>742970789Already put the tablet on ebay, don't worry about it my friend. I'll instead commission artists. Have this too cause why not.
>>742970975considering it's an update that came along with code that checks for save file flags, and it's dialogue you can only see when you beat pink, get hit by friend, and get the egg in chapter 5. i just think he didn't want this to be datamined day 1.
>Spamton was actually being gangstalked all alongHas any other character been vindicated this hard?
papyrus knight has yet 2 be debunked
>>742970062Me!!!!
>>742971004Anon there's only two chapters left and barely anything has been explained so far. How the fuck is he going to wrap the story up without a huge loredump?
>>742971039It might make you feel better to learn the difference between composition and arrangement. Toby still wrote all the music himself.
>>742968293You forgot the garbage trio in top
>>742970924>>742970803>>742970976>everyone theorizes about mike and FRIEND for years, usually binding them together>make fun of mikefags for latching onto a one off comment>since FRIEND is bound to it, and also exists in the "one off" sphere people become less inclined to theorize about FRIENDis it REALLY this hard to understand?
>>742970759Extremely cute Aqua. Saved.
>>742971110Not necessary. What you count as story isn’t what the game is about. We need resolutions to the main characters arcs, nothing else.
>>742971137people were not less inclined to theorize about friend, this is just schizo delusions
Carol
>>742970975like i said earlier, for what basically is just more 'oooh the cats kris, you must beware of the cats... and don't forget your eggs... oh, your eggs...' vagueposting, i don't really get why it needed to wait two weeks to be addedit's not like we would've shit ourselves any more or less if this had come with the chapter, so i don't really buy the whole 'purposeful delay' shit people are talking about
>>742970727Deltarune's structure is standard JRP fair where the heroes travel from town to town as the plot progresses. Just replace town with Dark World and it's the same thing.>>742970891Given that the arg was about the weird route, no update until chapter 7 anon.
>>742968917>>742970401if black knife/the door/the chase isnt the whistle motif in this song, its a win for dessknighta big thing about it was that the knigh cant be dess if she was a kid when the incident happened
>>742970759Your art is cute
Huge loredumps at the end can be utterly kino. This is like complaining that we don't know anything about Asriel before the True Lab.
why are people saying "only" 2 chapters left like each chapter isn't 8 hours minimum
There are only two chapters left and we STILL don’t even a basic idea of what the knight’s plan actually is
>>742970975I genuinely think Toby just fucked up with the FUN values when Undertale first came out and it took him awhile to fix it.
So threads will be a lot faster now?
>>742971194meanwhile in reality: people were outright calling him a never ever after this chapter because he didnt take center stage in the fields of PINK AND GOLD.
>>742970759Finish it so I can save itFind passion in life
>>742970393I want to see Kris's cute outfit if she ever won the Queen thing.
>>742971290but he still shows up in the chapter
"motifs" are a meme 80-90% of the time toby just has jingles he reuses woah... Pirate Dojo has Gaster's theme.... .fugg....
>>742969820>>the blue flowers in the website image are just for the fag flower, so the inverted image means nothing.truly, what the fuck did toby fucking mean by this
>>742971260>>742971274KEK
>>742971191So you're saying that wrapping up what/who the Knight is, what's the deal with the INCIDENT, the true nature of the dark worlds, explaining the main trio's backstories and such are irrelevant?
>>742970902This whole affair feels to me like some people wanted Toby to be JJ Abrams but they got George Lucas instead.
>>742971284we have until the ROARING JANNY decides that we've had enough fun.
>>742970935>adds in lorebait in a totally planned update, biting lip in a homoerotic rage at the people he tricked into caring about his mysteryboxya
>>742971284Yes because now we have something opposed to nothing
>>742971274>there's only one area left and we STILL don't even have a basic idea of where Flowey came from
>>742971260It's a red flag that they just watched it instead of playing it
Aren't all Schizo characters shopkeeps at one point?Well, except Jevil in Chapter 1.And in Undertale a shopkeep uses the fact that they're one to avoid being killed or something, or maybe that was Gerson.But guess who was a shopkeep in Chapter 1's castle.
>>742967578>aura loss.You're out of your mind. Thanks to this update Mew Mew is now prime waifu material for warning Kris about FRIEND and also part of the schizo gang. Stop doomposting and accept the HOPE my friend.
>>742969820You are correct but triggered the Anti-Mikefags, because Mike is more relevant than ever.
>>742971335yeah, as the same png as he's always been lmao.
>>742970701"Mystery box" has been a huge part of online nerd discourse for at least 10 years by now after J. J. Abrams coined the term.And I'll once again remind you that Undertale, despite issues like the New Home lore dump, had>Toriel being heavily implied to have lost a child since the demo>Flowey saying he had the power of SAVE since the demo>Flowey calling himself a prince since the demo>Undyne plainly telling you Asgore needs 7 souls to become a god in the middle of the gameAnd many more examples of advancing central themes, lore and plot points in every area.
Susie will be cucked
>>742971225Yes, true. Luckily the fags here have no creative control over the game so we will still get kino
>>742971201Evil sacrificing Knight that also has a soft side.
>>742970517>>742970401Doesnt sound like it, its a straight up new motif
>>742971004Prayer answered, chapter 6 will be another last time adventure and lore dumb will only be in chapter 7 :)
>>742970924NTA but there is a unspoken standard in lore theory communities that the way a a theory gets debunked is meant to be by new information naturally getting introduced leading to people then dropping said theory.What Toby did was to these people basically say, "You fucking idiots you actually cared enough to make theories? Fuck You" which then gets taken as "the creator hates you for enjoying the game in a way he doesn't like".Which while their are massive mental jumps being made does speak to a broader point that its seen as in poor taste for a creator to directly address the audience within the work even if things they do are made with audience feedback in mind.
>>742971360Only the knight is important and that will tie in to the incident
>>742971430that attacks you if you interact with it? and also has code to do as much damage as the value of the first item in your inventory, it wasn't just a jpg this time. did you play the game?
>>742968094>>742968326This image annoys me because it's only technically correct in the shallowest sense that for most of the game, The Batter is very much focused on the mission. He takes no joy in his mission outside of small joys like riding a rollercoaster, or checking out the sky. His conversation with the Queen makes it clear though that he has some very strong moral reasoning for why he's doing it in the first place. He's not just a man on a mission for the sake of it.His relationship to the player is the same as Kris' too, where he actively hides vital information from you because he knows what he plans to do isn't something anyone would be happy with. The only difference is that we know we're being actively constrained and decieved by Kris as we go, and we still don't know what his end goal is.
>>742971191>>742971004>wrapping up 10 year+ mysteries is le bad!>fuggen lorebrainz maine n shieet Kill yourself, you newfaggot, you cant make a puzzle just to leave a bunch of pieces missing
>>742971437>"Mystery box" has been a huge part of online nerd discourse for at least 10 years by now after J. J. Abrams coined the term.I thought it was an Umineko reference wtf
Dios Mio
>>742971380You could intuit what connections Flowey had as early as the demo solely from the fact he called himself "the prince of this world's future".
Eggs are terrible reference to cats. Cats won't even touch them if they won't accidentally crack the shell. Its clear Toby is getting sloppy and retroactivaly tries to ties the "easter egg" hunt to FRIEND but coudn't retcon them into fish or milk so that "protein" would make more sense. Don't expect anything with this reveal patched in last minute.
>>742971453Funny cause I found the first cucksie fic in ages yesterday
>>742971545And you can't do that with the Knight?
When people talk about Umineko being good is it actually worth it to play the whole thing I know at some point he cries about whether magic is real or not
>>742971335yeah but he does nothing except maybe bite you once. hence people calling him potential man: all he's been is le spooky smile that other characters vaguely imply is important. all 'might be plot-relevant' and 'could be behind everything' but never 'is.' one instance of damage after 5+ years of mysteryboxing is nothing, and deserves mockery
>>742971004>Keep the story focused on Susie, Noelle, and RalseiI think I find the plot lore dumps more interesting than>poorly written yurishit>"AIIEEEEEEEEEEEE IM SCARED OF THE END OF THE GAME BUT WONT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT"
>>742971437>despite issues like the New Home lore dumpthis was never an issue
>>742971528Do you live under a rock?
>>742970473You really think the whole alphys/undyne plotline in undertale was because Toby wanted to piss people off?No, it was because he wanted to self-insert as Alphys, but since Alphys was a boy initially he changed it up to be a girl because it's way easier to get away with a self-insert if it's Hecking Valid or whatever.Then he goes on to say, "This is how I show that it's okay to have girls kiss girls" in the anniversary streams whenever the scene comes up.Because he thinks it's cute and it's his special thing. Nobody can complain because they'd be chuds or whatever. So he NEVER got the criticism lobbied to him from anyone and even surrounded himself with hardcore yuri fetishists like Gigi.So then he's completely on track to make an unskippable yuri NTR cuckscene with as much hamfisted writing as possible-- and realizes finally that people who ACTUALLY ENJOY THAT SHIT think it's ACTUALLY SHIT because they can't skip it and have to deal with it now.So now he's left to reel as though "OH WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING, WOE IS ME, BETTER MAKE THOSE DUMB CHUDS FEEL LIKE THEY'RE JUST PICKING APART THE STORY AND DE-HUMANIZING THE CHARACTERS"; so now we have Friend lore. The end.Now you're gunna cry and clap when Susie and Noelle realize their love can destroy the propehcy and Kris is thrown into the fucking lake with cement shoes. Kris will be clapping too!
>>742971429>Mike is more relevant than ever.The possibility of those 3 fuckers getting NORMAL'D next chapter just increased a lot.Pluey is getting too close to the truth.
>>742970706Wrangler is wrong. Mew's dialogue is a warning about a cat's behavior in general and not FRIEND in specific but it applies to them.Mew is talking about Alphys yes, but I imagine it's more that Alphys had a lot of pet cats before moving to Hometown. We know she has an affinity for them with how she's the one putting out milk in the alley for any stray cats.
>>742971610>he does nothing but something he has never done before
>>742971615And the right wing deltarune fan exposes himself! It was contempt for the games all along.
>>742971615It's a character driven story, you moron. The character arcs are "the plot".
>>742971118Fuck chapter is overdue tomorrow.Okay let me see:> F G Eb. G Ab Bb. Ab G F.Where's Camellia's address again?Okay, sent.
>>742969127he's not meant to be fully anime, he's meant to be a sitcom friend character too.
>>742969290shes so cute
>>742971380retarded analogyFlowey shows up at the start of the game and is afterwards only hinted at a few timesyou're basically intended to forget about him until the endingmeanwhile, this game intentionally draws attention to several mysteries while also refusing to elaborate
>>742971004Its obvious next chapter is Noelle and Susie focused. Friend was always related to Noelle just like Spamton.
>>742970818Whatever her decision, Ive made mine.
>>742971583Dess was hardly present in chapter 1.By now Dess should be obvious, but people don't trust the text anymore with the amount of red herrings and misdirections we had so far.
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>>742971202This was the meme that made Tony update the game btw
>>742971676I was trying to give the benefit of the doubt but bad-faith shitposters can't help themselves it seems.
>>742971623you can tell that /v/ really is a very young person board because toby doing the millennial thing of not being a blabbermouth on social media causes people to write schizo fanfics about him
>>742971092
>>742971671yeah he does damage. like everything else in the fucking game. that is not interesting at all and tells us absolutely nothing about him
>>742971674>>742971673Dont care, the yuri chapter was so shit that the dialogue Toby added in will be infinitely talked about moreYou lost
What would you retcon or change in a patch?
>>742971583No, because antlers alone do not tell me anything beyond "oh, this character is related to the Holidays, but their identity is still a total mystery because no one cares about it except me, the player, and when I try to divulge that information, Kris cucks me out of it as if I'll somehow be able to use that information to ruin everything".Flowey was straightforward. He wanted to become god, because he's a psychotic little prick.The Knight's motivations and goals are completely unknown aside from the fact that they COULD start the Roaring at literally any time, but don't, because... they just DON'T, okay!? We don't know what the sacrifice entails, we don't know why they're kidnapping people, we don't know what makes their ambitions appealing enough to Kris to serve them, just that they're shitting around, sometimes opening Dark Fountains when they aren't sending Kris to do it for them.
>>742970759I dont know anything about art but I like how you drew her hair.
>this update
>>742971715>The teen doll falling for Kris vs adult ghost trying to avoid jail>Kris body falling for Susie vs You tuber let's player Soul wanting to support Suselle
>>742971761Okay but what's so significant about Shi?Also nice art
>>742971795>added new dialogue alluding to kris and dess's character arcs>"you lost"what did he mean by this?
>>742971203Not when some of said Fountains are literally only there to stall for time until the knight appearedHe did it not once but twiceThe so called adventures there accomplish nothing because the scenarios were artificial
>>742970759Please don't anon don't give up
>>742970759she's cute and the shading on her dress looks really nice. good job anon
>>742971494>"the creator hates you for enjoying the game in a way he doesn't like". The backlash for the Friend revelation is coming from people who not only think that but also say>"and that's a good thing!"Just wretched, spiteful people.
>>742971852shi = death
>>742971852>Okay but what's so significant about Shi?i like him
>>742971053>>742971202Some people might think it's a wild take, but I believe making a coherent and enjoyable story should be more of a priority for the writer than trying to constantly outsmart the player with mysteries.>>742971283The spearation between fun and Fun values early on is just too specific for that to be the case.
>>742970685I feel it, that sense of eternal pursuit definitely made me think of them
I haven't played this game since chapter 2 lol the lore discussions and seething about yuri seem more enjoyable than the actual game at this point lul
>>742971861>added new dialogue alluding to (HEADCANON)Kek, this'll be a rough year for you.
>>742971779Look Toby, if you wanted to write your shitty fetish into everything you should have made it a skippable cutscene.Goddamn.And besides that, that's 11 years ago. I was still posting back then as an adult. I'm a schizo even still. All of the shit I mentioned is something Toby literally said all those years ago. He literally cannot get away from the criticism now.
>>742971494i actually agree with you, the whole mike thing is shitpeople will play it off like "it's a joke" but is anyone laughing? it's just seethe.
>>742971941>Some people might think it's a wild take, but I believe making a coherent and enjoyable story should be more of a priority for the writer than trying to constantly outsmart the player with mysteries.the problem with this is detlarunes meta-narrative is just as if not more important than it's narrative
>>742971893This,I've been wating 10+ fucking years for some official gaster info, but some niggers treat me, the undetale old head like Hitler 3 & knuckles
>>742971951The game is great. Fags in these threads have to find irrelevant shit to nitpick because they'll die if they go more than 3 seconds without complaining about something.
Chapter 5 was not really a big revealing chapter but its also the most fun adventure thus far. Mew Mew getting more schizo dialogue is a great addition
LOREBRAINS WONFRIEND HATERS LOST LOREBRAINS OWN THIS FRANCHISE DUMMYGET READY FOR TWO CHAPTERS OF LOREYOU LOST TRANNIES AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
Do you think Toby will add lore patches every few months to keep the hype for chapter 6?
>>742970609No hay huevo!There is no egg!il n'y a pas d'huevo.This is all...an experiment.No hay gato, and yet...we hear a cat.If we want to hear a cat...- Listen.- [catswing note]Un ange symbolisant la liberté. [freedom note]Un kris au son étouffé.J'aime la sonorité d'un kris au son étouffé.[French]A muted Kris. [A Kris Piano recording plays]It's all interesting.No hay huevo!It is all... an experiment. [Piano note] [Freedom note] [Catswing note]il n'y a pas d'huevo.This is all...an experiment.Proceed![Iceshocks]
>>742971805Change >* THE MAN'S A CRIMINAL, I TELL YOU!! A CRIMINAL!!into>* THE MAN'S GLOOBY, I TELL YOU!! GLOOBY!!
>>742971941>making a coherent and enjoyable storyThis update made the game 100x times more enjoyable just by existing.
>>742967578Nah its really just the issue of it being added later. Like if it was there from the start it'd probably be fine but dropping it 2 whole weeks later after mixed reception is just weird
>>742970759I hope you're able to find joy in things again someday, anon. This was a cute Aqua, its a shame but nobody can fix it but (you)
>>742970969This.Hometown butcher SAVED chapter 5's discussion.
>>742971576the eggs are evidence and whoever owns the FRIEND pack is trying to cover it up.
>>742970924So you would rather a developer waste his time making fun of the fandom then making an actually good game?
>>742971951It's always super embarrassing when writers insert their fetish into their stories. People can't write about the stuff that makes them horny well, ever.
>>742971851EVERYBODIES GETTING KEKED!
>>742971951We don't care about yuri shit anymore. LoreGODS won.
>>742972050I don't mind the content, I'm just perplexed why it wasn't there on day 1.
>>742972009desu it just seemed like the same thing as undertale but more tedious because I think I had to replay the game all over again when chapter 2 dropped and there's way more missable stuff.
>>742971851How old is Kris anyways 16? 17?
>>742971965>Look Toby, if you wanted to write your shitty fetish into everythingThe fact that he's a yaoifag? Or is that not HMOFA kino enough?
>>742971494NtaA lot of the theories the Deltarune community comes up with are fucking stupid and based on nothing. Like identifying information we had about Friend for years was>he shows up in the dark>he’s a cat named Friend>his eyes are the color of pink and yellow spare icons in UndertaleAnd people extrapolated this to Woody from Toy Story somehow lol
So let me get this straight>OH KRIS.... THERES THESE CATS AND THEY WANNA BITE YOU BECAUSE THEY WANT PROTEIN... BE CAREFUL>this alone mogs all of chapter 5 lore-wiseAm I correct?
>>742972023Kris never shows his emotions so openly. He would hide in a corner where no one could see him, and only then would he smile.
>>742972241Chapter 5 does not have a lot going for it
So let me get this straight>[HISTRIONIC MELTDOWN]Am I correct?
>>742972192He's what ever the age of consent in Japan is
>>742972241Not remotely but it's what people that didn't play the game think they can get other people to hate it with.
>>742971623sttill funny to think that toby's big 'yuri fetish' thing came from genderbending the 'ugly nerd scores the cool chick' cliche by slapping eyelashes on the nerd and calling it a day
>>742972023Here's the big reveal:>Noelle wasn't in love with Kris, nor were they close childhood friends.>That was The Vessel back when he was a human with a body. He's the other child besides Toriel you see in one of the Dark Shards.>Noelle thinks it's Kris because they literally share an existence, so those were transplanted.>That's why child "Kris" is so different from the present one.>That's why Kris is distancing himself from Noelle.>That's also why the Vessel is all for the Weird Route and why Noelle is so ecstatic - she subconsciously recognizes the Vessel in Kris.
>>742972265I don't see the problem, Kriselle shit is pure fanon anyway. The triangle is Kris -> Susie -> Noelle -> Kris
>>742971941that would never happen
>>742972241barring having Kris's childhood friend dissociate and try to ascend to a lower plane, yes.
>>742972241No one gives a fuck about Suselle or le quirky flowers. What people like is weird route lake group suicide, FRIEND, and gaster follower potentially murdering onion san
This is no cat and yet we hear a cat..If we want to hear a cat
>>742972241Outside of the weird route, yeah.
>>742972241I'd say it's on the same level as the rest of chapter 5's story reveals. As in, it doesn't reveal much, adds more theorybait, and will probably be forgotten in future chapters.
>>742972241Yes. Aside from the weird route chapter 5 really didn't give you much to speculate over until now.
>>742971776Bad faith shitposter? Nah, I'm just realistic.There's hundreds of Toby cocksuckers here, I'm pretty sure you can find your kind and make out with them.
>>742972080So who the hell controls a pack of FRIENDS? These are device layer creatures that constantly show up out of bounds. I want to say it's Gaster, but Mew says she knew this person, and I don't know how Mew would have met Gaster.
>>742972220>And people extrapolated this to Woody from Toy Story somehow lolthis is also funny cause toby played into the joke as well by tweeting like he had some sort of affiliation with the new toy story movie. people genuinely cannot accept that toby just does things he thinks is funny sometimes and treat it like he's out to get them
>>742972282actually,>[SCHIZOPHRENIC RAMBLING]>[INCOHERENT SCREECHING]>[LUST-INDUCED LOGORRHEA]i hope this clears things up
Remember when Toby removed the rose and people went from calling Chapter 4 garbage to saying it was perfect and Toby ruined it>inb4 someone tries to play dumb even though archives exist
slow downit hurts :(
They killed another Deltarune thread...
>>742971982>deltarunes meta-narrative is just as if not more important than it's narrativeNo, it isn't. It really really isn't. In fact the whole game could end without ever addressing any of the meta-narrative shit. It seems increasingly likely that it will. That's just your personal opinion. Like 60% of players have no idea about any of that shit.
>>742972314...am I high on theories or does this makes sense?
>>742972037This comes across as mocking or derisive, when Spamton is otherwise mostly offended and threatened by anyone he perceives as being better off than him. He thinks Tenna screwed him over and got off easy in comparison. Of course he'd call him a bad guy and not a lame guy.
>>742972394>FRIEND holding a gun to mew mew's head to give us the schizo lore in response to people calling them a fraud
>>742972318>Kris -> SusieKrusiefag please...
>>742971429Mike is just this guy. That's it.
>>742972241This just shows you how lackluster chapter 5 isSword Route in chapter 3 alone has a lot more going on
>>742972241Suselle really is just that bad. Even 10% of the screentime for Suselle being replaced with this type of shit, would've mogged every other chapter.
>>742972483a dead darkner
>>742972425>No, it isn't. It really really isn'tyeah you are completely delusional if you think it's meta narrative isn't important, and this is the crux of all retarded faggots who can't accept this. see you in chatper 6 and 7 where you will seethe about what's obviously gonna be prominent in it.
MIKE, the DILDO, please!
>>742972476It's a TRIANGLE. Literally all shippers are wrong. And all dumping the same shitty low effort images. You bore me, anon. You've posted this shit at least 3 times today.
>>742972241>The only other things added in the chapter that deepens out understanding of the world, in that you could not reasonably intuit it from earlier on in the game are, NormalNPC being a killer and by extention that the Goners are a legitimate danger, that Plantners exist (with the amount of importance this will have in the future unknown), the code, and the Weird Route revelations.
>>742972318>>742972476There are so many flagged events where Kris can choose between the two I'm almost certain there'll be different variations of endings with either one as a romantic interest, at least on the Normal Route.
>>742972241No, despite the memes, we got quite a bit of lore that points towards Ralsei and the Knight's natures. We also got lore about plant darkners, the first dark fountain, and game mechanics in the dark world. People just really expected Friend stuff and we got jack related to that until now.
>>742971260>it is significantly easier and faster for Toby to add 8+ hours worth of standard gameplay than code a couple hours worth of stupid gimmicksGRIM
>>742972425>No, it isn't. It really really isn'tThe literal first seconds of the game only make sense if you're clued in to the meta plot.
>>742972508People went into ch 5 expecting FRIEND to have a debut on the level of the roaring knight in ch 3.They havent actually struck like that yet.
>>742972192I think he's a Freshman or Sophomore.
>>742971623>Then he goes on to say, "This is how I show that it's okay to have girls kiss girls" in the anniversary streams whenever the scene comes up.And has the MC participate in the tutorial of it to make her a girl.
>>742972415I think people also forgot that we were stuck with Chapter 2 for nearly four years and so when 3+4 dropped there was a ton of early backlash and forced shitposting because the actual chapters didn't line up with their schizo theories
>>742972425Get off my board jaru, you nigger
>>742971401hmmm, you might be on to something here anon coincidence or schitzo? Not sure
>toby patches in dialogue that will be heavily talked about>its somehow turned into suselletroons vs. FRIENDfagsGenuinely, how does /v/ do it?
>>742972415rape builds character and now we know that Noelle wasn't the raped in this situation
>>742972561>it is significantly easier and faster for Toby to add 8+ hours worth of standard gameplay than code a couple hours worth of stupid gimmicksyeah? this is true for every game ever made
>>742972318Kriselle won't happen, but it's not fanon at this point. Kris is the most shy around Noelle than anyone and goes out of his way to try and protect her on the weird route. It's the relationship that could have been had Kris not been cursed.
Just let me use my vessel Toby you hack
I want to have heterosexual vaginal sex with loli Noelle so badly...
>>742972241The biggest reveal is that someone datamined the fact that The Weird Route "infects" all the other saves.
>>742972508Suselle and its consequences
>>742972192Alphys thinks he's having sex with Susie so he's at least 16 as its minimum in some states as age of consent
>>742971780Nuh uh
>>742972575>>742972519I hope you realise your inability to even address my points without shitting your pants in rage kind of proves me right? It is EASILY possible that he never reveals the shit gaster and the goners are up to and it just remains in the background. Try to emotionally prepare yourself for that possibility, I'm worried you might actually kill yourselves
>>742972220Yeah, most theories are bullshit, but the proper etiquette for them is simply to naturalistically release information that debunks said theories, and a direct refutation is seen as mocking.
>>742970924>...Why?Because the entertainment industry is one of the most brutal ones to get and succeed, and Toby is getting to live his dream with full auteur control thanks to, among many things, people who do word of mouth advertising through things like theorycrafting.Taking a piss against people who let you not have to spend a penny on advertisement is profoundly ungrateful.>>742971137>>742971290>>742971494I've spent the last year trying to discuss how the Mikes destroyed a huge portion of fan made takes for future chapters. For a year there were not many fans making concepts for the flowers, compared to how much Tenna and Mike got in that sort of speculation. Trust has been broken to an extent the game could say "THE KNIGHT IS [character]" and people would still doubt it.>>742971980I think they're funny by themselves. I frankly believe there was a way to make that whole thing come off better.
>>742972394Mew Mew could only know so many people. It's either another Darkner in that dark world, Asgore, or Alphys
would deltarune be a better game without meta lore, internet humor and instead was a traditional JRPG about sealing fountains where you play as your vessel
>>742972637This but aqua
>>742972641Surely you meant " improves"
>>742972626Always bet on Ramb relevance.
>>742972425>game toby literally says you should play undertale first btw>game that has unused dialogue in the game files that gets updated every chapter btw>game where you the player are a character in the story btw and multiple characters know of your existence>meta narrative isn't important btw
>>742972549That’s not true we also learned>the knight was first seen when Dess disappeared and made both that fountain and the one in the computer lab>dark world operates off RPG mechanics in-universe to the point that not only Ralsei but Susie and other Darkeners are explicitly aware of the battle and config menusLike that’s a super big deal
>>742972415Probably the biggest evidence that Toby has other parties than himself affecting the writing and direction of his "vision", especially since the Weird route still has the game calling Kris a rose. Now the change to the visual metaphor comes off as completely nonsensical censorship and inconsistent censorship too since the rose references are there still otherwise.
New bread>>742972754
>>742972241I think we are shitposting and pretending to by hyped. Maybe also hope to see FemFriend fucking Kris porn
>>742972721Alphys being involved with the bunker I can see since Gaster and Alphys already are associated via the true lab but Alphys strikes me as the sort to hide behind others like mettaton or undyne.
>>742972545>t's a TRIANGLE. Literally all shippers are wrongThis is proof that Kris has feelings for Noelle.>You've posted this shit at least 3 times todaySo? It's canon. I can post some screencaps if you want.
>>742972637this but homosexual anal sex with Seth while he says "Oh Book!"
>>742972696him never revealing that doesn't make the meta narrative not important, this isn't a zero sum game
>>742972306and the queers have such low standards they fell for this shit
>>742972734If you hated undertale because of the meta stuff then yea, or if you are jarujaru
>>742972415I still think that was a really bad call. The rose should stay in the definitive edition.
>>742972508Truth nuke. Suselle ruined this chapter and will probably ruin this whole game.
>>742972780nice falseflag suselletroon
>>742972734No. It would be extremely forgetable.
>>742972696There is no possibility that it goes as unaddressed as it would actually need to for me to be dissatisfied.Just like I know the meta plot is already relevant, I know that it will remain relevant to the end, while I heavily suspect that you'll try to simply pretend it was irrelevant.
slow down i said~
>>742972747Either way it lends credence to the idea there will be a New Game+. Otherwise influencing old saves wouldn't make much sense.
>>742972635>Kriselle won't happenI'll make it happen. Believe it.
>>742972734We already have plenty of traditional JRPGs, why not try something different?
>>742972734That would be dramatically worse.
>>742972241yea...
>>742972241Chapter 5 was already good, shitposters just needed their lorebait character to be relevant again.
>>742972637ASGORE...
>>742972792Fucking based
>>742972241There's this thing called context, nigger. New information changes how we perceive older information, and this revelation in particular helps us assemble prior information into a more complete picture. Then again, you probably already know this, and you're just lashing out in impotent spite.
>SusellesusellesuselleHey can you guys make yourself useful and answer a questionDidn't Susie have some line of dialogue pre-Chapter 5 where she didn't even know that Kris and Noelle had prior history with each other?
>>742972241Yes, nothing happened in chapter 5.
>>742972972>lorebaitYou are mentally ill
dont care about anything unless its normalnpc related
>>742972780Retard
>>742972712>the game could say "THE KNIGHT IS [character]" and people would still doubt iti'm expecting even if the knight doesn't end up being dess people will STILL be drawing her as it, it's reached such a point that i think the fans are more likely to actually deny it in a way rather than go along with it
I can see Alphys being in on it, but she's way too much of a fat loser bitch to fight people herself.
>>742972968this sprite makes me laugh every time
I killed everything, where are my recruits in Castle Town?
>>742972734Yeah
>>742972987imagine if asgore had his way with his best friend's daughter a half a decade ago... just for laughs though haha
>>742972627Mental illness.
>>742973025holy based
>>742972907Proper NG+ would be way too ambitious but I fucking wish
>>742972993Don't pay attention to yurifags. They're EXTREMELY butthurt their ship became a monkey's paw scenario, that Noelle is a completely different person and not an uwu victim of toxic male abuse, and that Susie is blatantly turning into a villain of the story.
>>742973065Jaru...
>>742969127>deleting the doubled up pixels on vest + pantsthat looks so much worse than the original, with maybe the shoes being an exception
This sets the precedent that the last 2 chapters may have major additions added to them post-releaseAlso, FRIEND sex
>>742972637This but the Undertale humans.
>>742971603No, it's a huge waste of time. It's the epitome of "hype moments and aura".
>>742973137Who?
>>742973171fat fuck FRIEND supremacy
>>742971401>And in Undertale a shopkeep uses the fact that they're one to avoid being killed or something, or maybe that was Gerson.It was Gerson Somehow he KNEW you couldn't attack him even though you can kill anyone including UndyneMeanwhile, Burgerpants just doesn't give a shit
>>742972712>For a year there were not many fans making concepts for the flowers, compared to how much Tenna and Mike got in that sort of speculation.Because everyone and their mother wanted to be responsible for the closest guess to "the next Spamton". It wasn't enthusiasm about the story, it was enthusiasm at the prospect of getting the jump on the next fucking meme cycle. Toby never gave us as much information about an upcoming chapter as he did for 3 specifically because he tries to give inconsequential info and people refused to believe the previews to be inconsequential.
Deltarunefags arguing over which teenager they want to have non consensual sex with:
>>742973104Trannies kind of suicide bombed Yuri as a genre years ago. Discussion cannot exist outside of patrolled safe spaces like /co/ or /lgbt/ anymore
>>742972993>Didn't Susie have some line of dialogue pre-Chapter 5 where she didn't even know that Kris and Noelle had prior history with each other?Seconding this, I'm curious if Susie's jealousy was an actual hard retcon or not
>>742972635>Kriselle won't happenWhy so pessimistic? Kris could still win this.
>>742973053That reminds me, since a patch came out I wonder if they removed the Swatchling at the end of CH5 that's sweeping even if you didn't recruit them
>>742969127NINTENDO
>>742973102I've said it before and I'll say it again - if we don't get a New Game+ in the form of "the first playthrough" it's 100% guaranteed to be first big mod to be developed.Just the party itself is fucking interesting in that one:>Teenager Kris that developed along his original, playful and devilish persona.>Noelle who didn't have to pretend to be someone else. Almost certainly in a relationship with Kris.>(Maybe) The Vessel back when they were a human with a body.>(Probably) Catti, since she and Kris were "best friends."
>>742972734Kris is more interesting because he has his own motives.Removing him for the create-a-character would make it significantly more bland.>>742972575Does everything have to make sense out the gate?
>>742972415That was the beginning of the end of Toby's credibility. That and his virtue signalling in 2020.
>>742973104>chapter 4>I WILL NEVER LET THE PROPHECY HAPPEN>chapter 5>I le hecking LOVE the prophecy>now excuse me I need to go sleep in the school closet
>>742972425Sorry bro, this is a LORE game for LORECHADS. Get in the schizo bandwagon or suffer the consequences of being left behind, mew.
>>742973171At least Blue is the only flower tainted in this dogshit "art"work
>>742973104Do you think it's Susellefags throwing the baby tantrum over the new Friend hints? They have probable cause, seeing that they don't care about the actual story, just want a dopamine fix from "owning the chuds".
>>7429733151. Susie was very blatantly saying her dream is a world of stagnant happiness.2. Notice that, throughout the game, the more things go her way, the worse of a person she immediately becomes.
>>742973239Keep up, it's which cat and flower we want to have sex with now.
>>742973352god i wish mewmew was real
>>742971603All I know about Umineko is the awful incest shit that seems like it's written by Satan himself
What’s the least gay deltarune ship?
>>742973386what an odd thing to say
>>742972635Kriselle VILL happen even if I have to murder everyone
>>742973310You're expecting them to somehow explain enough about Gaster, openly enough for random normalfag players to pick up on it, for random normalfags to understand the intro fully, without that counting as a win on my part and a decisive loss on yours? Are you sure?
>>742973201The piles of asriel dust guy
>>742973315She is upset at the ending of the prophecy, and is seeking to change it. Hence why she's roping Noelle in, she thinks she would be helpful in changing fate. Or at least that's the stated reason for why she wants to bring Noelle in.
>>742973171sex with him
>>742973425Basically all of them are hetero. None of the gay ships are popular. Really makes you think
>>742973181BASEEEEEED.
>>742971603nigga it's a visual novel, of course not. shit is like a game but worse, like a book but worse, like a manga but worse, and they're all 200+ hours of schizophrenic retardbabble
>>742973452Holy based
I think FRIEND SUCKS!
>>742973315>I WILL NEVER LET THE PROPHECY HAPPENduring the gerson fight she explicitly says she wants the adventures to never end, and is now trying to get noelle to help with changing the prophecy, the only thing she doesn't like is the ending. she is ok with everything else
>Normal Route is for normies and Reddit>Weird Route is for 4chan>Abandoned Weird Route is for people who really like the game
>>742973425Me x Aqua
>>742973504I wish Blue looked like this instead of the ugly freak we gotLike just intentionally grotesque. Toby must have hired someone who got laid off in california for that spritework
>FRIEND's damage scales with the value of your first item.>The first item Spamton sells is the KEYGEN.>FRIEND appears in the Digital Roots.>Spamton couldn't go there because of it.>The Pipis are bait for it.
>>742970393OrIt's because Kris is meant to be sexless thus why he (or she if you prefer) is androgynous and has both male and female outfits.And therefore Kris can be either a king or a queen
>>742973504Is Undertale's Blue a female or a homo?
>>742973386>>742973430GIWTWM
>>742973504>freckled sethsex. mating press. impregnation. sleepless night.
>>742973425Dess x Asgore's truck
>>742972808No, it's proof that he had feelings for her in another timeline. Just like Susie hated him in the same timeline. It's not how our Kris feels.
>>742973521VN is a good format. It's just a VN being good is inversely proportional to its author being mentally ill.
>>742973643Woman with an oversized clitoris
I called out Forgotten Man vs ERAM days before we got this patch.
>>742973619>Kris is sexlessYes, the moody, violent teenager with a broad back who wears only masculine clothes is certainly a woman.
>>742973557>Abandoned Weird Route is for people who really like the gameOnly if they aborted in Chapter 2.Chapter 5 aborters aiming for the Twistedsword are larping trannies
>>742973658First reply meant to>>742973171
>>742973502>None of the gay ships are popularSpamtenna:
>>742973502That works off the assumption that Kris has a dick. Which is in dispute
>>742971603Absolutely not, it gets shilled by people who want to trick others into wasting their time out of spite. It's like fighting games
>>742973725>only masculine clothesSecondary.
>>742973716This bratty mantle HATES vagueposting
>>742973726Chapter 2 aborters are unworthy of FREEDOM
>>742973740>muh "doomed yaoi"Extra cringe
>>742973726Buddy, you mixed it up. For the Twisted Sword Route is you have to have the Thorn Ring IN YOUR INVENTORY. In CH5 Abandoned Weird Route Noelle has it.
>>742966393>>742966393Why would toby update the game like this with fucking lore?Trying to get more engagement post launch?
Yes or no? She's a 3D prostitute but still https://files.catbox.moe/20fpz8.jpeg
>>742973749Yeah in dispute by trannies, porn addicts, and foids. Kris might as well be named Toby
>>742973740That's not pornifiable anon.It will forever stay in irrelevancy.
>>742973454No I'm a different guy asking if normalfags NEED to pick up on it?Is there any harm if they just think it's a wacky intro sequence with a little bait & switch?It raises questions for you to think about as you play.
>>742973658i wish i was someone's fat fuck boyfriend
How are you supposed to get the twisted sword if you abort the wierd route later
>>742973806Because he saw the complaints and wanted to put a bandage over it
>>742973814would
>>742973502for me? it's Lancer X King
>>742973890Open Noelle's inventory and unequip it?
>>742973797She took that ring off and chucked it far away in the lake when (You) pussed out from Proceeding inside her.
>>742973858See that's also fine, my point is there is an explanation to the intro, it's one that involves the meta plot, the odds of Toby making up a non-meta reason for the intro of all things are near zero.
>>742973814jeet-kun her knee is inside out in your ai slop...
>>742973890The Twisted Sword Route is blatantly going to be the Genocide Route of the game.The Late Aborted Weird Route is probably what leads to the True End.
>>742972241I'd say FIREND being related to the forgotten man via eggs is kind of news. Friend being a pack was already a theory due to the cat petterz blog, but its nice to comfirm
>>742966393where is this from now where can you see itHow do you niggers keep up with all this crap
>>742973781>Vagueposter that hates vagueposting
>>742973964Proofs?
>>742973884Do you have fur and a tail?
>>742974043Because a Noelle is just a Noelle
>Annoying song in ch4 piano is just flowerys themeI'm convinced now, 4 and 5 were switched in some way
This little fuck is the true villain of the game, isnt he?
>>742974043My ass
>>742974085No proofs then
>>742974108You can listen to Undyne's leitmotif in Undertale before she actually shows up. (Dating Tense plays in the Papyrus date)
>>742974132Sex
>>742966393>two chapters to golollmao
>>742974121irrelevant
>>742974108>church happening on a saturday instead of a sundayWhat makes you think that?
>>742974025Hypocrisy is natural.
>>742973990Uh, Eggs aren't mentioned in the new dialogue at all
>>742974121it holds the leash
>>742974121Doubt it, at best he's a capo of the FREEDOM faction
>>742974121I've said FOR THIS WHOLE PAST YEAR he was the second voice from the intro. And also Demon Chara.
>>742973814brownoid
>>742974121yes, the dark world manifestation of an object that hasn't been expounded on at all since its introduction is the true villain.
>>742973975>people actually edited their photos before mainstream AI existed?Tell me you discovered the internet in 2020 without telling me.
>>742968368What?
>>742973425
>>742974210It's not christian church baka, they don't even have a concept of a sin
>>742974108The fact that it's the only song of the bunch that you couldn't identify as some prior song is noteworthy.
it's actually awesome that toby is vagueposting about fucking eggman, friend, eram, gaster, the knight's identity, dess, asriel, seam, ralsei, kris and carol ALL AT ONCE IT'S COOL WE KNOW THE MOTIVATIONS OF NONE OF THE LISTED CHARACTERS
>>742974342which makes literally no sense at all but thats toby faggot for ya
>>742974303her feet also change sizes between photos...please stop embarrassing yourself...
>>742973310But you don't get to have any motives as a resultThr character interactions feel meaningless as a result
>>742974210Deltarune's masonic church could happen on a Tuesday for all we care. They don't even venerate a creator.
>>742974393Mew Mew wants Kris dick.
>>742974393eat your new vagueburgers, anon
>>742972561What's the source of these? Is there a xitter profile the artist has that I can follow to jerk off to it or is this 4chan exclusive posts?
>>742974432My motives are to figure out what the fuck is happening and what I actually have to do.>no you're supposed to only be motivated to want what's best for the you inside the screenMental illness.
>>742972958Not anymore they were murdered by Toby fox
>>742974393you'll just have to WAIT for the next chapter :)
Don't forget who's to blame for all of this
>>742974469Fact check: true
>>742974108a bunch of songs in chapter 5 play before we even know what their context of it, kris literally plays the shop theme from chapter 5 in chapter 4
>>742974393Chapter 5 of 7 by the way
>>742974469Yet he can physically only ever be fucking one of them at a time...What a shakespearean tragedy
>>742974121It's a very shifty bastardSword is basically a weird route tutorial, and at the end, that's who you find.
>>742974506It's a fucking video game I play those for funI don't want to just figure things out for 8+ years I want to know what im supposed to do in this jrpg adventure game
>>742974483>this 4chan exclusive posts?You sound like a tourist with that wording.
>>742973685Even if this shows an alternate timeline, it doesn't change the fact that he has the same feelings for Noelle in the current timeline. Kris still remembers what happened in the original timeline and acts in the current one based on his experience in the original timeline. Why should his feelings change?
>>742974539I think Noelle should get FUCKED by the seven headless cats as punishment.
>>742974550>... Kris... insert your protein for safe keeping...mew..
>>742974598I want to figure things out for 8+ years because all games are about figuring things out."What you're supposed to do" is play through the game as it comes. That's all.
>>742971603You know how Deltarune in its current state, there is a lot of threads, mysteries and setups going on but we are still not sure how are they all connected or know what do they mean?That's Umineko. Even after finishing the VN and spending 200+ hours on it, the VN will not tell you who killed who and which one faked their death. You either have to figure it out yourself or read/watch an explanation online Read Fate/Stay Night for magic battles or Tsukihime for schizo MC. The MC of Tsukihime does feel identical to Kris, down to even having repressed memories, cat connections and tomboy-ish girl he looks up to.
>>742974539>you're bad for hurting fictional creatures inside a videogametoby...
>>742974539>noelle understands the concept of save files and realizes she's in one that's a variation of her alternate self
The next 2 chapters will be the longest ones, with the possibility of their duration being equivalent of playing trough the game's first half
>>742972993for as much as people here hate Suselle and make these autistic Krusie/Kriselle charts you'd think that someone here would have a screencap of that
I'm beginning to realize that I feel way more comfortable drawing with a computer mouse than I do with with a pen or a pencil, even though all of my on-and-off practice has been with the latterI'm a little ashamed that I let this happen to myself
>>74297381410 babies with the foid
>>742974675>the VN will not tell you who killed who and which one faked their deathor you can read the cucked out manga for the answers because ryushiki is actually a faggot
>>742973240>>742973104I blame a certain billionaire.
>>742974539She deserves to be sent into the breeding pit as punishment
>>742972993This one?
>>742974654That's not an adventureYou get a goal, you spend the gameplay time trying to achieve that goal and actually achieve it in a reasonable amount of time
>>742974678Only someone who has never experienced hurt for any of his life can come up with a premise this stupid.No wonder he crashes out at fans like a spiteful retard.
>>742974432It's far more interesting to watch Kris hide his motives and goals than to think "Yeah my guy would like this."Trying to infer them from what glimpses of him we can get that he lets us see.For example (You) might not care about Hometown and its people, but he obviously does with how he tries to care for Berdly in the WR and how much he DOES NOT want Noelle getting hurt.
>>742974856>No wonder he crashes out at fans like a spiteful retard.nice fanfic does it have any basis in reality?
I hope there are kids out there without internet exposure who are experiencing Deltarune like how I played earthbound as a kid. Ignorant to all the theories and the fanbase, maybe they just saw the game on the Switch e-Shop and asked for it. If one kid like that exists then it was all worth it.
>>742973395they were the same fags bitching about 'people just wanting Susie Gaster' previously, so...
in a previous thread someone mentioned that cats can see in the dark, so they'd have a different perception (or no perception) of dark worldsyou know who else can see in the dark?
>>742974840That's not an adventure, that's a task. And a very specific presentation of a task at that.
>>742974604Well that's just a theory. There's no way to know how much he remembers if he actually remembers anything at all. For all we know all his information might come from looking at the alternate timeline. And besides that vision there is really very little proof that Kris feels romantic feelings for Noelle.
Who is she dialing?
>>742974918This game is millenial coded uncslop to the core, younger zoomies or alphas have no patience for it
>>742974918>never played earthbound as a kid during the snes days>only just started playing it this year after completing earthbound beginnings despite constantly hearing about earthbound and mother 3 in these past decades>tfw
>>742974675Umineko and Fate/Stay Night lore are completely ruined. One always was kinda cringe and the other got fucked by gachaslop.
>>742974405Because she edits her pics like every whore online, they didn't wait Altman to do so you fucking retarded underaged nigger. I can't believe this website allows retards that scream AI whenever they notice something is off. Kill yourself.
>>742972993Isn't it in Chapter 1 that Susie seethes at Kris and Noelle being close? So basically the retcon comes from Susie figuring out that shit in an optional scene.
>>742974982freddie freaker
>>742974707Catti falling for Noelle only further suggest Suselle is a red herring. Every lightner character also push for Kriselle or Krusie.
>>742974918Literally not possible, these kids are exposed to internet so early their very identities are fused to it. That's why people kill themselves over being canceled
>>742974961Then I'd rather try and accomplish my task, that's how a quest worksThe heroes have a job they should be doing it or give it to someone else
>>742972241the fact that chapter 5 is literally the best thing toby has ever made and people just dont care about it because there's not enough shitty creepypasta arg loreslop in it is deeply depressing
>>742974975>There's no way to know how much he remembers if he actually remembers anything at allHe's clearly following some kind of plan and switched Noelle's role at the beginning
>>742972993are you thinking of the ferris wheel photo that Susie brings up? The one that made Noelle say >OH THAT? FAHAHAHA, THAT WAS SO FORCED, WE WEREN'T EVEN THAT CLOSE, FAHAHAHA...
>>742973504I was talking about Frisk and Chara though.
>>742971494>there is a unspoken standard in lore theory communities
>>7429750321 freak, 2 freak, 3 freak, 4...soon the freak will be knocking at your door...
>>742975072(You)Now get >>>/out/
>>742975069That's stupid. The heroes have a struggle they're trying to overcome. Their external journey is only part of that.
>>742975072I didn't like it be the fountain was made to stall for the knight, making the whole time there pointless because he gets away with it at the end
>>742974832This interaction is suppose to be the Krusie equivalent of Kralsei bath scene. Susie is actually confessing she was jealous that Kris already has a girlfriend. Otherwise she would torment Noelle instead ignoring her and cucking her in most chapters. Susie simply can't figure out she isn't love in Noelle.
>>742975072Chapter 5 is literally the best thing Toby ever made. I do have my complaints about it, however. It could've been much better.
>>742975072Best thing in what way exactly?Maybe highest production values but I doubt that's very high on most people's list
>>742974982Kris
Why is there now a bunch of ch5 boot lickers?
>>742975194oh i agree, i still think toby has room to improve as a game designer and writer which just makes me even more excited for the next chapters, since so far each has been better than the last
>>742975171Are they? What have they actually done to overcome it over these 8 years
>>742974707catti is fat with no tits
>>742975281become gay
>>742974906>Here let me google a free of right microphone png and put that into the game>Haha that'll own themIf you defend this you are a subhuman
>>742974873Then why bother the player at all if you don't value their experience
>>742975072This but only because Aqua debuted in it.
>>742975174>because he gets away with it at the endThat's what Kris wanted though right?
>>742973585He just really wanted to be subversive.
>>742975072I'm close to agreeing but Chapter 4 was one of the best experiences I've ever had playing a video game. I liked 5 a lot and it's impressive how far we've come but I don't love the other flowers (Flowery is amazing) they're pretty much all less interesting archetypes Toby has written characters occupying before
>>742974906green pippins
>>742975365People only like Aqua because she's cunny
>>742975316built like a donut hole
>>742975365that cunny must STINK... yet she's a flower. what does it smell like?
>>742975365>This but only because Aqua debuted in it.SEEEEXXXXXXX WITH AQUAAAAAAA!!1!1+1
>>742974975>Well that's just a theoryYou were just using those theories as facts a minute ago.>And besides that vision there is really very little proof that Kris feels romantic feelings for Noelle. His reaction in the WR clearly shows that he cares about her. Kris has never been this angry. Noelle is clearly very precious to him, and he's trying to protect her.
>Omg Kris le friend out there to hunt you and your hand! I'm so scared!
>>742975021Umineko is a convoluted mess from the get-goFate/Stay Night is fine if you ignore anything after Fate/Zero light novel like any VN fan
>>742975256Why are LOREfags so butthurt over giving the story some room to breath and focus more on the love triangles in the game? Do people actually wanted romance routes to be abruptly brought and canonised in chapter 7?
>>742974960Seam is Eram truthers winning again.
>>742975351>>742975404you must be pretty sensitive if that's a "crash out" to you
>>742975072Most people agree that in terms of gameplay the chapter is top tier.
>>742975479love triangles are the devil speaking
>>742975434Nectar
>>742975346I'm not gay. I don't find this attractive, don't make me watch>>742975378And I did notYou can't actually accomplish anything on the game, and the adventure is nothing but a sham
>>742975072Toby did not even touch this chapter mate the only things he touched is himself when writing Suselle, Youelle and the end NTR
>>742975281Susie is trying to fight back her old selfish mindset and falling into a trap, currently being set up for a crushing reveal that she's nearly as bad as she always thought, but not really.Kris is struggling with how much he should trust his friends when he's already balls deep in the conspiracy with the Knight.Ralsei is trying to figure out how to balance the whole "be your own person" thing with the "Darkners aren't people" thing.>but what have they DONE, where was the BOSS of Susie's selfishness?Objective brained morons begone.
>>742975365Correct!!!
>>742975467If FRIEND was hunting Kris, he would've already found and attacked him, considering that we've been able to see him multiple times.
>>742975127>*So I noticed like, there's like...>*This photo of you and Kris? On the wall?>*Oh my Gosh, that's so old I forgot about it!>*I didn't know you were like... umm... close, I guess.Oh wow, it really doesn't make any sense, Chapter 4 Susie straight up said she didn't know Kris and Noelle were "close" but then Chapter 5 Susie says she thought Kris and Noelle were dating >>742974832 "before" she got to know him (read: before Chapter 1)Am I going fucking insane?? I can't see this as being anything other than a genuine retcon or Susie deliberately lying, which sounds like character assassination either way
>>742975467Why can't she admit she love Noelle? She constantly make up excuses that she just want the shellter codes from Noelle and then she cockblocks Kris...
what do you think is the ending toby dreamed about that's apparently so good he spent like 15 years thinking about it
>>742975479>Why are LOREfags so butthurt over giving the story some room to breathBecause it's been 8 years and questions like what happened to Asgore to get him like that>and focus more on the love triangles in the game?Gross
>>742975486Never trusted Seam desu
>>742975580The game kid of forgot about the shelter codes
>>742975524it bothered him enough to put it in the game
>>742975256Discord raid. Apparently American hours are Discord hours.
>>742975408Normalfag redditors hate cunny yet somehow Aqua is excluded from their scorn.
>>742968024wife friendmom friend
>>742975584it's just the weird stuff from ralsei lore dumping the dark world nature to susie
>>742975539>you can't actually accomplish anything because the thing I wanted to accomplish didn't happen when I thought it was supposed toThree symbols. Three codes. Three chapters until the shelter. You misunderstood the hint and got mad.
>>742975539>. I don't find this attractive, don't make me watchDeltarune is not for you and I mean this sincerely
>>742975615or he thought it was funny to poke fun atliterally all three aspects of the mike trio have been introduced to the actual story since thenhow does this equal crashing out
>>742975072I hate Suselle. I hate Blue. I hate how Asgore doesn't really do anything then gets kidnapped. I hate that there isn't a secret boss, with the best gimmick in the game. I hate the lack of lore after the NUKES Chapter 4 left us with.However, it is easily the best chapter because the pros (flowery, aqua, pink, the gimmick, the length, and the fucking WEIRDGOD ROUTEGOD) outweigh the cons.
>>742975551I don't care about any of that anymore if I can't beat the game on my own terms It's a fucking video game, an alleged quest the heroes have to go on, and you can't make them do it. Why bother with a player at that point if the game just wants you to watch in the cuck chair
>>742975578I am also confused. It's not like Toby forgot about the ferris wheel memory either, since you literally get closure for it in chapter 5 FROM NOELLE
>>742975467Stay mad, Suselle tranny.
>>742975601Its intended to play Deltarune back to back from chapter 1 to 7. Future players would feel everything is rushed if Chapter 5 wasn't mostly a filler that bonds Susie, Ralsei and Kris together.
>>742975363If it didn't value the player's experience then there wouldn't be a game to play.
>>742975539>I'm not gay>The heroes have to struggle because TVTropes said itX to doubt
>>742975454That doesn't mean he loves her though. Susie cares about Kris a lot, but she doesn't love him.
>>742975675Only one code got collected and it was almost as an afterthought, by accident I would argue
>>742975816Can you name a single story where the heroes(if there are any) DON'T struggle in some way?
>>742975727>I don't care about any of that anymore if I can't beat the game on my own termsYou beat every game on the game's terms.>It's a fucking video game, an alleged quest the heroes have to go on,The video game isn't the quest. The quest is part of the game's plot. A very small part.
>>742975795Pretty retarded intention totally detached from the real world. Most people who will ever play Deltarune have already played Deltarune.
desu it is kind of strange for a character to be a strange theory-bait machine full of foreshadowing and symbolism and then decide the one name that he drops twice is actually just a non-sequitur both times
>>742975816What's tvtropes
Noellebros?
>>742975816really more like because it's the basis of storytelling going back to and preceding Epic poetry of the Greeks
>>742975816>you are a redditor if you expect the protagonists of a story to face hardshipi really hope this is bait
>>742975981she only wants to because susie showed interest
>>742975816If you don't have struggle you aren't worth being called a heroSimple as
>>742975942Literally all main reviewers like Mandalore/IGN/Yahtzee or let's players and streamers like Asmongold never heard of it becuase it hasn't been finished. The game will fully blow out in the mainstream after final chapter
>>742975956It wasn't a nonsequitirIn one case he was flashing back to a time when he was still on the crew and could still request things of Mike.In the other, he was reminiscing about being on the crew and only remembered one bridge he didn't burn.
>>742975981afaik she only says this if kris told susie that he'd teach her pianoso maybe noelle also wants lessons
>>742976004Yeah I clapped when Asgore said he was gonna parade the Knight's corpse around town btw
>>742974436Asgore does
>>742970831source?
>>742975795>Its intended to play Deltarune back to back from chapter 1 to 7.Then he should've released them all at once if that was actually the case instead of going through episodic releases
>>742975981Post full context. She only says it because Susie declared wanting to learn piano and Noelle want to have private lessons with her
>>742975938Ocarina of time lets me do what the game tells me to doEarthbound lets me do what the game tells me to doDeltarune does not
>>742976160yeah because you would totally preorder the game knowing you will only get first demo in 15 years since it's announcement
>>742976136If only he had actually done that then maybe we would have had something to discuss and wouldn't have needed emergency lore injections 2 weeks later
FRIEND has to be the final boss/villain of the game, right? I don't see any other options. The Knight and a Titan were already used in Chapters 3 and 4 respectively and I doubt we are getting a Gaster boss fight.
do people unironically believe suselle isn't going to implode next chapter
>>742976271Ever heard of the scam citizen?
>>742976052>>742976092>>742976004>>742975926>>742975974What struggle did Frisk overcome?
>>742976287>FRIEND has to be the final boss/villain of the game, right?No, the villain will be introduced at the 11th hour.
>>742974603I don't care about the worDing right now. I need to JERK OFF NOW
>>742976260No game is good "because it lets you do what it tells you to do"Neither of those games "tells you" to do those things directly, all your imperatives come from characters.
>>742975796What do you call sitting in a cuck chair while people call you chud for saying you don't like how some of the characters act
>>742976287There is nothing really stopping Toby from using the Knight or Titans again
>>742976271>yeah because you would totally preorder the game knowing you will only get first demo in 15 years since it'sToby is literally a millionaire He got millions upon millions of dollars from the game and merchNothing is stopping him to have a large production team to speed up Deltarune development Deltarune with its scale could've been done is like what, 5 years if he spent money on a large team?He will still be the director and musician
>>742975981>Kris and Susie have a thing and Noelle wants inSame shit as the diner except there's no dialog choice to make Noelle not bother
>>742976379Personally meeting and befriending the majority of the Underground even though their "quest" was just to get to the exit.
>>742976379Play the game to find out.
>>742976379Are you serious?Traveling through the kingdom full of monsters trying to kill him for his soul for starters
>>742976379Being chased down by monsters like Undyne who is after their lifeNot resorting to violence in dangerous situations
I genuinely wonder if FRIEND was always planned or if it's something he came up with during the development of Chapter 2.Back in Chapter 1 it's never hinted that the "Strange someone" Jevil talked to was Friend (or any sort of cat) and, honestly, going by Jevil and Seam's designs it's much moreso implied to be Gaster himself directly.Then again, you had that "Friend with the creepy smile" room in Undertale that was never explained though.
>>742976379Frisk fell into a world of monsters and the struggle is trying to leave
>>742976379She had to fight and befriend everyone trying to kill her.
next thread where?
>>742976379Confronting Toriel in the ruins for starters and later bunch of traps and lava
>>742976397You can be averse to how they act but you aren't writing them. They're dumbshit kids in an adventure spanning a little under a week their time by now being told both the Light World and Dark World are at stake.
