How's your Granblue Relink grinding going? Endless Ragnarok is finally out.
>>743003619I'm burning through MSP cause I can't decide who I want to upgrade and use.
>>743003619Just beat the ER story. Now I'm in the slime blasting and Terminus transcending mines until the forseeable future
So is the gate of Babylon potato really as good as people say she is?
Hidden crewmate card in chapter 5 in case anyone needs an extra.
Reminder to claim your trophy rewards if you're short on ambrosia
>>743003619I'll start Chaos+ next time.I'm not sure if I should work on my Sigils now or just get carried by chinese NEETs until the next powercreep.
>>743003851Do they not show up on the map?
>>743003878>not clearing every shiny in your inventory when they appear
Fuck you. I will grind the ooze all day if I have to. My 30 ambrosia didnt last long at all.
>>743003898Show up as a star icon, but you wouldn't know about it if you finished that mission before ER since it doesn't show in the collection list in chapter select.
>310k HP>56k ATKThis shit is getting ridiculous
>>743003619i cleared the first couple chaos quests and now it wants me to do cycle 4 of the conflux stuff.the rest of my party is trash though...
>>743003619I've been messing around as Bea, kind of tired of potato after 200 hrs.Not rushing.
>>743003843Not sure what other characters can do but having a constant aoe condom (can even 99,999 cap the shield) with easy skill resets sounds busted to me.
>>743003619Game is not coomer friendly enough.While such designes were acceptable decade ago, these days we have brown dust and nikke, so devs need to try harder
>>743004000It feels good to be FAT
>>743004170go away, slop consumer.
>>743004037Fights might get a little challenging but you'll clear them no problem>went in with Terminus on AI while they're above 45k health and fought the boss while Blighted (-10% HP every second)
>>743003851You can replay chapters?
Just a random fyi, steel nerves works with Bea's defense clock.
>>743003985I really hate that they decided to retroactively add a bunch of shit to the story missions cause man are some of them an absolute fucking slog.
Where is all da hidden summon on field?
Are people still going to be using Lucilius sigils in end game or are the newer sigils good enough to replace them?
I wish Draphs were real.Any pitfalls that I should avoid as a new player?
before someone asks how damage cap works again i made a guide
>>743004212There's a a Chapter Select option at the quest counter.
>have 170k hp>still getting oneshot by random attacksThere's a point where the incoming damage is too high
>>743004589>Any pitfalls that I should avoid as a new player?Try not to spread your resources too thin trying out different characters early on cause building them early on is a pain in the ass.
>>743004818dodge
>>743004931Noted, thanks. Will stick to my starting four until endgame.
>>743004000They really fucked up the balance. On the base game you werent really beasting on Bosses until you awakened a Terminus, which took plenty of farming. Here you are handed a maxed ascended Defender that lets coast through pretty much all the game. Only exception with the infinity but mostly cause they are gimmick figths; in Versa you need to affected by his debuff, The World can only be stunned by parries, Bubs will actively try to push you from the arena, etc
>>743004738That one image with the blackboard meme does that in way less text.
I wonder if I have to kill all these niggas for the postgame Hexa fight. I refuse to believe there is no postgame Hexa fight.
>>743005085that was posted in every thread and you still have retards asking about it.the more text is intentional because it tells you what to do based on what % you have.i'm also trying to lower the amount of retards still using terminus in chaos.
Ok you convinced me. I just boughted this game.What character should I play as if I main LS in MonHun?I want to main Narmaya but I heard she has a bad rep online and 95% of her players are shitters that die all the time during hard fightsAre Cag and Siete high skill ceiling characters?
>>743005085And yet people STILL keep failing to understand how it works. Too many Charlotta/Sandalphon players in these threads.
Why the fuck can the ascension weapon replace its core sigil with fucking generic damage cap
>>743005005you can try out other characters since your gear sigils can be moved around with no problem just don't spend too much upgrading weapons early
>>743005195I don't think I'm going to be able to go back to terminus after comfy maxing with defender. Having bosses only take off like a quarter of my HP with a hit feels good. Though I imagine when I get to end game again bosses are going to end up one shotting you even with 400k+ HP so it'll probably make no difference if youv'e got 400k or 40k so you might as well use Terminus at that point.
>>743005198Anon you play LS, I don't think you care about the bad rep
Siete is completely brain dead mash button it's hilarious
>>743005198Narmaya is going to be your best both because she literally uses a katana and because Narmaya mains act like LS players, meaning they're either literal gods who will out DPS everyone or complete shitters who will ruin quests for you by dying 10 times in a row with 0 middle ground.
>>743005332I'm one of the actual good LS player tho, I swear
>>743005431>>743005332Charlotta and Sandals mains are the LS players of Relink
>>743005512They're the hammer mains of Relink. Pure unga bunga bonk mindset with no sense of self preservation.
>>743004576The Celestials can probably replace them as long as you have good skills paired with your regular damage cap sigils somewhere. Unless you want the shield from Gamma or something still
>>743003851we have a ton of extra crew cards. I'm pretty sure my count is 4 from quests (i only have 3, i still need to find the three guys in red) and 1 from the conflux. I haven't even gone back through the story to get those chests yet. There's no way we're not getting more characters
>aegis 15 and greater aegis 15 gives more HL than greater aegis 30So these multiple with each other?
>>743005512Every Sandal I've run into has been carrying the team, healing, reviving, and too honors at the end. I kneel to Sandal fujos.
>Cag would've actually killed the grancypher crew if Lyria wasn't with themWhy do we like this guy again?He's a psycho.
>>743005878I'll give you 2 guesses as why why anons on this Mongolian forum like her (him)
>>743005342qrd on him? i remember him being shit before the dlc because he took too long to get into his buffed mode
>>743005818Don't they just have diminishing returns with how much you get from levels?
Percival seems kinda fun...
I delayed my ER start by about 8 hours because my two mains were the eternals but I didn't want them to be in my party for the boss fight. So I went to grind my captain up to do the fight with him instead. Took ages and the captain didn't even end up being strong, but it was worth it because the fight is kino.
>>743005878Cag is a cute girl who doesn't know anything about mean things like killing
I think my ferry is broken. I have SO MUCH dmg cap and she's still hitting for 250%-300%. I dont know if this is alleviate later on but I dont know what else to do.
>>743006086I don't if this is a common or uncommon opinion but I think boss design is massively improved from the base game with even the reskins being better designed and the chaos versions of the bigger bosses being more fun but the brand new ones especially are absolutely top tier.
>>743005947Because he's cute and has a good sense of humor?
Can trashy lowlevel sigils be sold?Or do you get some trade-in/refining mechanic later?
>>743005878Perhaps the Grancypher crew deserved it?
>>743006086Based lore chad
>>743006228You can recycle old sigils, wrightstones, and excess treasures, not sure when sierokarte lets you but it might be post main story.
For a second I thought that said Phantastic Pits
>>743006168ferry had the lowest base cap in the game, she was basically an SBA generator until that got gutted
Them changing the word to recycle made it so easy not to get confused with menuing.
>>743005953you just hit enemies to fill the bar and then mash to cash it out. It's just really simple I mean
I have fallen into the Conflux mines and I can't get out and I'm having fun
>>743006345So...what should I do?
>>743006203the only bad fight for me so far is bolla but the og version was garbage so its a fight you really cant fix
>>743006203Yeah, I was rolling my eyes when the game had Lyria saying "It's all the same but feels so different isn't it great??" as their excuse for reskins, but fighting the bosses and seeing their new movesets made me realise they actually put a lot of effort in.
>>743006168>I dont know if this is alleviate later onIt isn't
>>743006567Yeah I was glad I got S++ on my first try so I don't have to fight that faggot lizard again.
Do you choose what prospect to keep or is it random out of the selection?
>>742993367Nope, just a regular old Gamma.
>>743006712It's random. It's why you usually want to isolate it to have only one bad stat, so the other 3 combos are good.
>>743006712Random annoyingly. I really fucking wish they changed that cause I'm going to save scum it anyway. There's zero reason this shit needed to be rng instead of simply letting you choose 2 perks.
what's Granblue about? Is it just gachaslop? Any singleplayer kino you can play with no former background knowledge needed?
>>743006961thats called relink, its not gacha. has a single player but the story is meh its more about the gameplay
>>743006961I dunno anon there's 4 completely seperate Granblue games. 1 is a gacha that is the original, 2 are fighting games and this one is an action RPG with 4 player coop or single player with AI companions.
>>743006613So i'm screwed on damage?
>>743006961Relink is pretty good singleplayer for like 20-30 hours (much longer now with the DLC) until you get to endgame stuff and you can hit the grind mines in co-op. Basically there's nothing really wrong or dumb about the story, it's just very plain and generic JRPG stuff. The story is mediocre but the setting is very expansive and thrives on designs and fantastic artwork, both character and environment. The Japanese voice cast is also unbelievably stacked and every character is a "I know that actor" if you like any anime or popular Japanese games.
>>743006168>>743006345So Ferry is still one of the weakest characters in the game even in Relink? They didn't save her?
It's funny that Seofon's story is about having already done the six dragon shit and having his other self in his head and somehow he doesn't know Fediel.
>>743007096Good news is you can remove old attack boosting sigils in favor of utility/bulk.Please more people do this. You don't have a transcended terminus and regular terminus is outpaced very early into chaos, I'm tired of using a blue potion and seeing someone's health bar leap from empty to full.
>>743007153ferry is pretty good, I've seen a couple in the lategame that got mvp
200k HP and I haven't even reached Chaos++ yet. Should I drop gamma?
>>743005036This is the kind of post I was waiting for before deciding to play or not. I get addicted to this kind of grind whether it's fun or not due to monkey brain and then regret wasting time on it, and this sounds like just the kind of vapid shit I want to avoid.
anyone got a summon with stout heart sigil on it yet? war elemental?
>>743007262shield hardcaps at 99k for what it's worth
>>743007262I use it on Maglielle cause she gets some damage cap up for having a shield and its chunkier than what her staff givesFor anyone else yeah you can probably take the new damage cap up shit
>>743007314Nobody asked
>>743007215It's hilarious how easily he is forgiven for straight up murdering Id in cold blood and only not finishing the job because Tweyen found out and stopped him. Maybe everyone kind of secretly gets why he would do that.
>>743005036idk, I think it's fine. I fucked up the base game up to proud pb on my no sigil run with friends. Chaos difficulty varying per person is just a case of external stuff like how much you menu'd your build or how bis and prepared you were from base game vs people doing their first PB and going straight into ER. lots of retards still rocking 40k HP in chaos+ are getting bent for example
>>743007398I remember a time when people didn't act like overt women on 4chan, sonny. How many tiktoks you scrollin' on, boy?
So if I'm hitting the training dummy for 200% I need to gain about 100% more damage cap to compensate?
>>743007141My damage cap is lvl 99. Not counting other damage cap sources. I'm just baffled.
>>743007512ye
>>743007512Or drop enough attack to line it up, yes.
>>743007512no, answer depends on your total damage cap so it's hard to say. a fresh player might only need thar much, but my estimates from early endgame ER numbers is that you need like 600% damage cap to turn a 200% into a 100%
>>743007141how does the story relate to the gacha?
>>743007512>>743007556I'm not sure how damage cap applies to the value shown in the training dummy. Is it really as simply as +x% damage cap reduces the percentage you're dealing to the training dummy by the exact same x%?
what's the best weapon for AI now? stinger or stunner when progressing through the DLC?
I really want to like Fraux, but I can't get over how large her forehead is.
today I'll remind themhttps://youtu.be/2pcmo1WBdd8?si=a-voLQbHDfFV3PWk
>>743007682stunner, stun is really important and you will miss a lot of good link time windows without enough stun
>>743007682I feel like stinger is kinda of a meme and doesn't really offer enough to justify using it over any other weapon with more utility.
>>743007215Alternate timeline, anon
>new terminus HP cap is 200kWill this be enough for endgame?
>>743007782>>743007739what about for sandolphon? i dont think he has a stunner weapon
>>743003851And another one in chapter 6. I get that you don't need all of these to unlock every character but I feel that it's faster to get than some other cards like the conflux quest ones.
>>743007852200k in endgame is like having 30k pre dlc
>>743007727Her design is fantastic, but I haven't the foggiest idea how she's supposed to play.Same with Mag.>>743007852You don't need terminus at all. By the time you've farmed it, you'll have nothing to even fight.
does "chain explode" actually do anything? he can already detonate grenades with his fist without this and it doesn't actually seem to increase the detonation damage or add additional hits.i guess it's just adding the new debuff?
so, should i just start transcending the weaker weapons now?i'm still using terminus weapons
>>743008047Warning about this one. If you pick it, his attacks nor skills pop grenades on enemies. ONLY fists.
why the fuck would you ever use this it just guts her fun factor
>Your current main>How you feel about them in Endless Ragnarok compared to vanilla
>>743008051You get good mastery buffs from doing so.
>>743008078well that's kinda dumb.i can see where they were trying to make a melee build viable for eugen but this debuff doesn't seem good enough to bother.
>>743008034>By the time you've farmed it, you'll have nothing to even fightB-but what about all the other characters I need to grind the terminus for... And future content....
>>743008090TweyenI'm liking her a lot in ER. They've added a lot to make her lock on move charge quicker and do more damage and the skill cooldowns make her a lot more fun.
what makes Cag a support? Phantasmagoria and the revive?
>>743008117Eugen's skill trees besides his sniper one are both total memesHe's fucking ridiculously strong on AI control again though
When do you think we are getting the first update
>>743008090Tweyen, the changes are insanely good. The QoL on going from charged attacks into multilock are so good. Also no more struggling to get into chain link range because they increased the radius for her.
>>743008090Lancelot's mastery changes were lameI wasn't even playing the cheesy Y spam before but he got nothing new that I care about, switched to Maglielle
wtf you can trade summons for mastery points
>>743003619Haven't got the terminus weapon for anyone I want to use and I don't want to run Baha a single time ever again so this game is done for me.
>>743008090FedielShe wasn't in vanilla but she's great
>>743008183her cuteness supports the party from start to finish!
>>743008090SiegfriedMixed. He only has two real build options and both of them need adjustments because they feel like shit to play by the time you hit lategame
>>743008248>he doesn't know
>>743008245The rank 3 summons you don't want trade in for like 6k to 9.9k
Just played the demo. How to you select the character you main? Do you just pick one to main based on gameplay? Or do you switch base on encounters?
>>743008090>Ferry>confused as fuck as to why i'm still hitting 300% dmg cap.
If one person manages to consume 75% of the revival gauge it should kick them out of the room and replace them with a bot.
>>743008248you can grind special resources from the conflux now to craft terminus weapons.conflux itself is amazing for material grinding.
i was expecting to feel the need to go online way earlier but i still haventi just unlocked Chaos+ and it's been a breeze solo so far. im sure it ramps up soon though
what's the best place to grind to level 100 now?
>>743008328Mostly you just find a character you enjoy playing. Only for really endgame encounters do I bother thinking about optimal characters to use.
>>743008504Drag your NPCs into the slime quest probably
>>743008090>Vane>11/10, top tier degenerate tankingSure, they nerfed supp damage working with his sigil, but sharing buffs, being able to really stack HP, and beatdown being incredible makes up for it.I'm very curious about trying the other two trees, especially the beatdown one which felt kind of weak when reading on it initially.
>>743008439Do you mean true solo or with the AI? Cause outside of a few exceptions like Zeta who for some reason they made worse the AI in general is a lot better now.
I can't decide between Bea and Fraux bros, I just want to do cool flips and stuff.
how do i kill luciliculiuls are there any tricks
>>743008090My vanilla main was narmaya but i haven't really played her yet again in ragnarok.I am playing maglielle for now. I like that she is playable now compared to vanilla where she wasn't.
If you wanna play Fediel just unlock her early cause the story unlock for her is late as fuck
New player at chapter 6Am I missing out by not using crew cards? I got 5 or 6 of them but I don't want to spoil or do anything that breaks the difficulty of the game
>>743008609don't get hit is my only advice
>>743008663Just unlock whoever you wanna fuck the most, DLC characters or not nothing in the story is hard until the base game's postgame.
>>743008241he becomes dunkalot after 10 perfect dodges with the dodge tree, its pretty funny
>>743008090>Io>happy that my big boom got bigger
>>743008663It doesn't matter now that the DLC is here, but you should stick with only 4 party members to upgrade until you reach endgame to avoid having to grind.
Is there any new secret characters or were all shown alreadyIm on the fence yet
>>743008609git gud
>still no jannu or vikkiI beg of you cygames...
I fucking hate 99% of the people that play this game.
>>743008090>Fediel>Don't have to feel anything because she's NEW (I love her so much.)
>>743008034I just really don't like Fraux's outfit and her 3D model's hair frames her head weirdly, maybe I'll like her more when there's mods or something for outfits.
>>743008781>jeanfair, she's been staple character since RoBahamut>ratnot happening, she's banished to versus jail. It would be other zodiacs
>>743008794I'm still trying to farm enough to build Fediel to be in line with my other characters. Also need to farm enough so I can do some transmarvel to try get her unique sigils.
>>743008781>jannu>rob import in relinkis that even allowed?
>>743008609If you're already gearing for Chaos it has never been easier. Otherwise bring along or use Vane yourself for the invuln bubble, completely negates Paradise Lost. He can't be paralyzed or anything like that so debuffers like Tweyen get fucked a little. Maglielle with her healing staff skill would probably be pretty good too. I hope you don't like guarding attacks and prefer dodging because it's way more of a perfect dodge boss. Uhhh use your SBA right as he goes into Overdrive and you can potentially skip a phase if damage is high enough. Also do not activate Link Time unless you can take advantage of the full duration.
>>743008663It's cool to try many different characters, unlocking them sends you straight to training mode so it's pretty easy to mess around with their basics. But definitely don't commit to having more than like 4 as your A team, it is prohibitively expensive (i.e. GRINDING) to get multiple characters fully levelled and geared.
>>743008909I'm still progressing so I don't have any meta sigils or anything. Also don't have any of the fancy stuff from base game either, but I like her stompies sigil that gives the enemy a 30% defense down. You can have it up pretty much 100% of the time since you're stomping a lot.
>>743008916dont see why they wouldn't do that. when GBVS was new people said RoB characters wouldnt get in, and then they did
>>743008794How exactly does she work? I got to mess with the story fight you do as her, but wasn't seeing how it fits together.
>>743008909You can buy the basic versions of the DLC character unique sigils from that little munchkin shopkeeper thing.
>>743008864would 100000% instamain vikala if they ever put her in relink. shame they literally never will.
>>743008985use her basic until she starts stomping then press combo finisher button to zap to the enemy and start claw spamming.
are dlc worth it, or it's just costume recolors?
>>743008663Characters are kind of like weapons in monhun, you're just unlocking new weapons and their movesets with the crew ticket.
I don't remember what's better. Do you pop your SBAs at the end of the Overdrive or at the end of the Break state?
>>743008295I main Sieg too but I haven't started the DLC yet. What's wrong with him?
>>743009078She also charges her big spirit bomb faster when you use it WHILE you're stomping.
>>743009164I don't know what's best but I tend to see people use it at the end of break's whenever it's not just retards spamming it as soon as they hit 100% when everyone else is at 60%
>>743008785What's wrong with the image?
>>743008090Yodarha.Doesn't feel all that different from before since his one good master trait buffs the thing he was already doing before and the other two are huge memes. Who the fuck thought that "get hit and you can't use any skills for 8 seconds" is a good idea?
>>743009183>big spirit bombI'll just throw 5 of the smaller ones in a row instead
>>743009164On lower HP or low total overdrive bosses usually the idea is to pop SBA right as they enter OD. Because most bosses will go into OD, and then a second later go into Bloodthirst and then they do their bullshit mechanic. So if you thread your SBA in between you can full burst and potentially force them into Break before they even get a chance to Bloodthirst. Noticing with Chaos bosses though a lot of them just Bloodthirst whenever the fuck they feel like now, and also OD bars are big as hell so you can't cheese it.
>>743009389big spirit bombs..... bikini skins when?
GIVE PRAISEFOR HE HAS NO EQUAL
>>743009389>throw 5 of the smaller ones in a row NTA but, she can do that? i havent actually played her much ive just had her as a CPU teammate
>>743009318As someone who doesn't and will probably never use Yoda I appreciate whatever they did to his mirror image skill because it has saved me a few times.
At this point i'm just checking everyones stats at the start of a fight and if someone has less than 150k i'm leaving. I've failed The World 4 times so far because one faggot gets one shot by every single fucking mechanic
>>743009469Yeah, it's pretty busted
>>743009501I'd make a lobby before trying to random match it.
>>743009516I didn't know she had that. I JUST got to where I can get rank 2 styles.
>her weapons just change her high heelsSweet.
I forgot just how much fucking damage Io can output if she's just left alone to masturbate in a corner because of Lucilius forcing you to move around
>>743009516Is it worth doing 10 miasma hand attacks before doing the combo finisher?
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
>>743009495That one's functionally unchanged as far as I know. The only difference is that now you can tell how many stacks you have on you.
>>743009650>43k HP actually laughed out loud
>>743009718IT KEEPS GETTING WORSE
>>743009650>>743009738>muh DPS>*dies*
>>743009650That Chinese Tweyen is playing DMC Hell or Hell mode for some reason.
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1NYNL6eEDc/?share_source=copy_webunoptimized charlotta 60s dummy (277m)very compelling gameplay, high skill ceiling character here
>>743008090>PercivalMastery mostly buff the charge attack or chance to reset cooldown using charge attack, pretty straightforward
>>743009650I also play a low HP Tweyen since part of her deal is never having to get close to enemies but this is something else
>>743009171tl;dr buff micromanagement and it encourages you to cheese his perfect attack system like vaseraga cheeses his combo finishers, except it's worse because sieg's combo chain is so fucking long>tree oneyou have to do seven perfect executions to stack a buff that lets you spam perfect execution like it's link time. when the buff ends, you're put back at 6 stacksevery buff goes away if you do a non-perfect attack, if you go down, or if you dodge cancel your combo at the "wrong" time>tree twoyou have to do five perfect executions to stack a buff that gives you cooldown reductionevery buff goes away if you do any of the failstates for build #1, but the buffs also have a timer so you'll lose every stack if you're in a fight with downtime and you aren't swinging to maintain the buff>tree threeyour counter skill can lead into a perfect execution on a successful counter, your counter deals more damage, your party buffs now give substitute now, and you gain stacks of a buff anytime you take damage for someone or do a link attack (up to 10 stacks). dying loses 1 stackthis build can be somewhat comfy, but you aren't really capable of tanking for other people in the super endgame scenarios whether it's because things hit too hard for you to tank them without nuking your damage, or because fights have mechanics that are explicitly designed to fuck over Substitute
>>743009819have you tried the build that turns his dash into a nuke when you get 9 stacks from his parries/charged attacks/buffs yet?
>>743009318Is it really as bad as it looks? I'm barely upgrading my main so Yoda is on the bench for now, but reading the descriptions made me think they must have some kind of plan with the skill resets and shorter cooldowns to make it so that he can't be hit anyway because he's either mirror image'd or doing flashing void/ tit for tat.
>>743009650>>743009738An entire party of Chinese damagemaxxers
I dont play censored games. If they ever make it playable by removing the censorship let me know.
>>743009647If you get a nice opening, sure. Otherwise the buff levels seem negligible
>>743008090SiegfriedHe is Siegfried and he goes HIYAAAH EEEEUUGHAAAAAH OEAAAAGH. Compared to vanilla, he's a bit better nowadays I suppose, but he still goes HEEEYAAAGH EAAAAGH.
>>743005036how to get handed a maxed weapon?
I think I would have preferred the summons if they were just straight up cinematics that show up and do some super move, but that would probably get boring to watch eventually. I think it would be better if summons were a lot more rare than they currently are. What do you think?
Let me know if they ever fix feminism problem the "game" clearly has.
>>743009916Yeah 1% increase sounds like an absolute meme.
>>743008090Literally nothing changed with Io I charge big damage from across the state
>>743008081it's her best mastery style by a long shot sadly
>>743009891Not yet, I'm still in chaos+,desu parry mastery is really situational and I'm not really good at it lol
>censorship worshippers actually spend money on thisYou are all the exact same as feminists who falsely accuse innocent men of rape to "smash the patriarchy".
>>743010070then i will simply play her suboptimally
>>743008090>Kat>I'm allowed to press the dodge button now
I don't need HP35k is more than enoughI'm just gonna do-ACK!
I would have really loved to try this game if it was actually playable. But its not playable, its censored. Unfortunate how feminism ruins everything.
>>743008090Currently maining Bea after maining Cag, Katalina and Tweyen in base gameShe's fun! The clock takes some getting used to but once you get the hang of it, it feels really good to swap between the different modes to suit the situation
>>743010089that's fairit looks like it could be fun on paper to spend on a big nuke, but I haven't touched perci yet
>>743003619I went from a zeta main to a fraux main, she's very fun. Aside from that I only got to chaos+. I ended up having to rank up solo because faggots were dying constantly, lost to the earth lizard like 4 times. But with NPCs I got it on the first go. My team is>Fraux>Sandalphon>Zeta>Maglielle
>>743009647Did some testing. Top is with just 1 stack, bottom is with all 10 before throwing the finisher
>>743008090BeatrixI don't think>>743008554>for some reasonThe CPU used to skip hitstop that's applied to the move when the player does it, doing it far faster than the character is actually able to. It was fixed in ER which had the side effect of a nerf.
So so dissapointing. I was really hoping to play this one. But its not playable in its current state.
just played with a mag and fraux that didn't have enough SBA to chain burst until the boss was at 30% HP lmao what the fuck are these people doing
Ice wolf boss sucks dick, he keeps enraging every 5 seconds.
>>743010253Yeah kind of had the feeling it'd be too much wasted time.
Permanent stout heart on Beato is so brain dead I forgot how to dodge when I tried playing someone else
who summoned the "censorship" schizos into the thread?
I have every single damage cap sigil except terra, an ascension weapon, and i'm still able to have 250k and stout heart and guts and potion hoarder. Is every single retard with 100k health just doing 1000% overcap?
>>743010408>schizosIt's clearly one newfag fishing for (You)s
>>743010406It's a shame that the unga bunga playstyle is going to fall off once you get to end game where bosses will just shit out too much damage.
Fool's fractured jaw???
>>743010474Still useful for getting off the charge attack which is kino
>>743010461>Is every single retard with 100k health just doing 1000% overcap?
>>743010461People will literally ALWAYS try to maximize damage at the cost of survival in every game.
>>743010558The key word being "try". They're not maximizing shit
I think I'm gonna pass for 2 reasons, the 2008 era PS3 style match-making which was infuriating and the shitty boss fights like the lava dragon/ice wolf that I'm sure are regurgitated at you in the DLC.
>>743009901It would've been nice if he could refresh all skills since then he could refresh mirror image, but since it's only for damage skills it seems like a high risk high reward build except some of the better characters have more reward with less risk.
>>743008090>Fediel>She was fun until I found out spamming Y orbs was giga optimal
If you won't let me skip the Fate episodes, at least let me make the dialogue speed instant so I can actually read it at a normal pace.
Finally put together a team that can solo Lucy, what's the priority for alpha/beta/gammas?
>>743010408>censorship in quotation marks?????? Its blatantly censored, all the female designs are completely butchered and ruined by spats and undershirts. They dont look how they are supposed to look at all. They might as well have not made the game at all if they were gonna do this.
>>743010784Usually it's gamma > which of the character needs more as either skill based damage or normal attack based damage.
>>743010408don't reply to it, it's so desperately fishing for (you)s
>>743010631That's a shame, I like that crazy old bastard. Well, at least he has one non-meme path, I'll build him up once I'm done with Kat.
Is zeta any good?
Alot of the mysteries are just kinda bad, aren't they???
>>743010897why do schizos always treat getting replies as some kind of special currency they can earn?
>>743010897What a handsome lad. I bet he fucks dragons.
I'm addicted brosI can't stop
How strong are Fediel and Maglielle? I remember I mained Charlotte and just spammed shit to do tons of damage
I'm not playing this censored goyslop
>>743003619So i got stuck at the duo fight with 22k req. I was trying to build Sandalphon, i got World ender, got it to ascension 9? Put every mastery on him. What sigils were important? I guess i need his 4 unique ones, atk cap and atk+? What about the npcs, should i get their terminus weapons or ascend a normal one?
>Domes the boss for 55m dmgFish bros we are so back
>>743011118Fediel is busted after a certain point. Mag, I dont know.
How to get the black crab off of vulkans hand?
>>743010897Explain how pointing out censorship and how the "game" is worthless because its censored magically becomes "desperately fishing for (you)s". Youre a schizo. The game is censored and worthless and unplayable.
>>743011118Fediel shits out fuckton of damage after she gets the 5x Ball finisher at mastery 3
BUBSBROS HOW ARE WE EATING
>Realize Rackam has mastery traits dedicated to blowing himself upI am now very tempted to play Rackam.
>>743011187The game is censored. No one is eating. The granblue community has been starving for years with the evil censorship mandates.
>>743011232inshallah
>grunts respectfully in your directionWhat do?
Any idea if they'll buff/change alot of the shit masteries?
>>743011267The base game got a couple of balance patches so probably some tweaksDon't expect full on reworks of the lame ones though
So uh, is katalina better now? Good? I still dont see anyone play her.
>>743011232RACKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM
>>743010928I wish that they'd at least say what's the chance to refresh a skill. I could try a meme build with perpetual rotation, hymn of the hundreds, trice blade and flashing void as my only damage skill to see how often it gets refreshed since it makes you invincible for a pretty long time, but if it's only like 30% I wouldn't even bother.
Gee The World just summoned two giant circles and then lines came out of it to show where it is going. I better stand directly in the path of both of them killing me instantly.
>>743011267Better yet. I wonder if anyone will get nerfed. Io, Fediel, and Charlotta just shit out raw numbers effortlessly.
>>743007921Chapter 8
>>743011336if it's THAT line attack then there's a chance someone stood in front of it to perfect guard it since that's a mechanic he has
relink shouldve been a gacha
>>743011365they didn't bother nerfing charlotta after she got her warpath in base relink so i doubt they are gonna do anything here too
>>743011187>>743011257it's crazy how they showed him in a cutscene naked waist and above, but can't show a little bit more skin on the females.don't even get new outfits even though there is clearly a outfit change made for two characters
>>743011262I join the lobby and queue on Chaos difficulty
>>743011410It's when he leaps out of the stage and each circle covers 1/4th of the stage. So you stand right beside one them and then run directly where it was when it starts moving. Somehow this is too complex for half the people fighting him.
relink shouldve been a fighting game
relink shouldve been made by platinum games
relink should have been a board game
Any new standouts among the cast for AI bots? Can anyone support on the same level as Cag? Also I don't know how they poisoned the code but narmaya bot has started hitting the floor a lot more often in ER, now just like online I have to guess whether she's going to be a goddess or shitter
>>743008090>siete>avatar meter is generated much easier and it feels way better to use. theres also a forgiveness period so he doesnt instantly dismiss the avatar if you accidentally press the button during a combo finisher>still very smug
Aaah, how far away, the ideal world.
>>743011528Platinum were too busy ruining my favourite action franchise, good thing Cygames were kind enough to make an awesome action RPG for me to get over the loss a little easier.
>>743011543siegfried
relink should have been a porn game where I get to matepress every erune
>>743011597Loving tender ghostjob from ferry.
>>743011586it alright its just so spammy
>>743011546I have always been curious about trying siete but his kit always kind of pushed me away ever since I tried hitting the dummy.
relink should have been a tailoring game where i cover every erune's back.
>>743011118I've been consistently MVP in quests after getting Fediel's spirit bomb master trait
Relink should have been made by humans instead of evil censorship creatures.
I just started chapter 0 and I still haven't found a character that clicks with me. The most interesting guys to me now are sandal, sieg, and gallanza. I hope i like them cause I'm starting to regret this purchase.
>>743011528It was, when cygames came knocking and saw they wasted their money they didn't just end the contract, they also poached most of the good devs who did work on the game.
relink shouldve been a roguelike
>>743011505oh i thought you were referring to quickeningidk then lmao
>>743011589Oh right he's 100% perfect strikes now huh. Guessing thats an easy slam dunk for the insight path. If I don't have his terminus or ascension weapons upgraded, which other weapon paths do people transcend instead? Actually are the other perfect attack characters also doing perfect attacks 100% of the time now?
Yuel should be in relink.
>>743011753i mean cpu zeta is still doing it, just a lot slower. but i haven't looked at her masteries so maybe she has something similar to siegfried
I can't really tell if this is doing anything or if I'm even doing it right...
>>743011329Even 50/50 would be debatable, you'd really have to lock in if the RNG started screwing you since 8 seconds would feel like forever in the middle of a fight that has a ton of shit going on.
>>743011680it takes a while to click, the extended masteries help him out a lot with avatar bar management and generation because he feels like COMPLETE SHIT without avataralso a ton of his skills are fucking useless or massive baits
I'm going to do it. When I get back home tonight i'm going to try and learn how to play katalina. I'll never score MVPs but I dont care.
>>743011841go into the training room and do one x -> delayed y then spam y and count how many y's it takes to fill the bars fully. then do the same but don't delay the y after the x and just do xyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy and count how many y's it takes
>>743011680he's very fun once you learn him, used him in a bunch of the base game post-launch stuffhavent messed around with him in ER yet, waiting to unlock the Chaos+ slime quest to grind everyone i wanna play up, but i like what ive heard about his mastery traits
Fuck the ivory dragon fight. I have never seen so much spastic movements ontop of arena wide shit going off all at once.
>>743011889Use Light Wall to skip mechanicsMash Y to build Ares meter and to go ham with Ares
>>743011986Just Y by itself builds the meter???
>>743011746This. This game could’ve been the best anime roguelike of all time and sold millions more copies but the uncreative Japs devs fumbled it hard
>finally see someone playing maggie>link time happens>she just pisses a solid beam of swords onto the boss and the link bar literally doesnt even move until the anti-eugen failsafe activates and force ends itwhat the fuck?
conflux should have been coop...
>>743011889She feels a lot better now, even before the mastery perks, since you can dodge and still maintain ares or aura block to not get knocked out of light wall casting animation.
>>743012020If I remember rightly, yes but it has been two years since I last played her so I might remember wrong
>>743011597agree but add humans as well
I have failed multiple fights at 1% health because some dumb fuck cant figure out how to do a link attack so we dont get the bahamut extension.
>>743012036I wish the maglielle i had earlier was that good. Except it was the opposite for me, kept trying to kit link time and she never pressed the damn button. Not once.
>>743012103this happened to me because i got paralyzed by pyet-a during the dps race and i didnt notice a single piss colored laser targeting mei never wanted to kill myself more than that moment
>>743012036yeah that's very funnyi wonder if that was even intended
so does it not matter how much def% i stack on sieg if im running the substitute setupcause i can only assume you take the damage that person would have taken based off their own defense not yoursthats the only way i can explain suddenly taking spikes of 300k+ damage from across the map
Weird niche question but is there an AI I can safely take for danchou or sieg's crux paths that will reliably get hit to stack the passive without also being a super retard that will explode?
>>743012079I'l give it a go later and see how it goes. Most guides I see are from 2 years ago so...yeah.>>743012072I've always liked the aesthetic of a woman in knights armor plus she has a rapier so it's double dipping into my tastes a little. Selfish reasons aside she DOES kinda look fun and it'll break up the monotony of me playing nothing but eugen or percival all the time.
>>743012208Rackam. He literally can't stop getting hit
>>743012208>>743012264Seconding this. It's why I dont take AI rackam anymore. That, and he just loves blowing himself up.
>>743012036oh, so just holding Y during link time is optimal as Mag? Or do you have to build something specfic for it so link time lasts longer?I mean she gets infinite meter during link time, so i feel like i should fire all the sword beam i can.
>>743012264>>743012290well its lore accurate to Grand Blues at least
>>743011726Refund the game. Its censored slop
>>743012208can't you just put stout heart on them or use a character that tends to buff themselves with stout heart? when the cpu has stout heart they just stop dodging and facetank instead
>>743011932Oh man, it all finally clicked. She's like a grounded Zeta with ADHD and 8th grader syndrome, perfect for autists like me who want to spam melee combos.
>>743012036
>>743012312mag main here and yeah i assume thats the case because i cant imagine doing anything else during link time when sword dance not only has infinite ammo but also automatically uses sword dance 4 while you maintain the channel. that and if you invest in the shield generation masteries it also gives you a 99999 shield during link time
>>743012264>>743012290I also need the AI to not explode or well in this case cause me to explode because they can't dodge for shit>>743012390Does it? I thought sandalphon's transformation gives him stout heart but he still dodges like a normal person. Maybe I should try it out with someone who gets damage cuts in their kit naturally and see if that works
>>743012617doesn't releasing unleash pretty big damage?then you just dodge cancel and start pissing swords again.
>>743011701What skills should I use with her? So far I only "like" the dash, but I am not sure if I'm even doing her rotation correctly or what
>>743012674dont even need to do that during link time, she automatically fires off the big nuke while maintaing the channel. it does a shitload of damage but it also adds another 20? or so hits to maintain link time
>>743012697I've been using the warp skill for gap closing and ez miasma hands, the slow+DEF debuff, the ATK+DEF buff and the parry. I'm thinking about replacing the parry skill though since I barely ever use it
maggie seems pretty active for a CPU player.she pretty much never stops attacking compared to some of the other ones that will just tard out and stand there.
Is there any character or any reason to go for perfect guards over perfect dodges?
>>743012617mag supremacy.
>>743012227Design-wise I feel like the huge cape AND a waist cape are a bit too much, there are mods that remove the cape or make it much smaller and that looks fantastic though I imagine none of those have been updated to work on 2.0 yet. Gameplay-wise she's all about managing cooldowns and knowing when to use what to keep the ball rolling for as long as possible while you're mashing the pactstrike combo, no perfect timing for attacks required here.
>>743013026I want to have a full team of all the new characters(female).
>>743013043you can continue your skill animation and block during it. if you dodge you cancel the skill.
is there a good mission to farm MSP early in the DLC?I don't have slimpede 2.0 yet
>>743013140I don't get what you mean. Everyone already has dodge offset. Are you saying that if I'm like halfway through a skill that's already started doing damage I can perfect block and the skill will keep going?
My chaos++ advancement quest went extremely smooth, what happened?
Relink should hage been a draph milking sim
>>743012227you can mash it, but it won't bring you ares meter until the finisher move.the best way is to strike with normal X attacks and then do a strong Y attack.if you do a X + X + Y or X + X + X + Y attack fills the meter up to the half-point, doing it again fills it completely.the other method to fill it is by using a skill and pressing Y afterward, that counts for a half fill of the meter as well.when the meter is full, like that anon said, you can go ham with Y. it's kinda hard to stay in ares mode consistent in boss fights because how they could interrupt you during that mode, so be careful
>>743013248yes
>>743013249>what happenedI was in the party carrying
i underestimated just how comfy rocking a Defender would be even early in Transcendence. im pretty confident in pdodge and pguard but it makes it even more chill when you can fuck it up and merely take a ~30% hit instead of 1-shot.
>>743013341Nobody carried, and nobody even went down once.
>>743011127Brother I beat I with 16k power and even worse companionsJust stack HP, pots and slowly wittle them down, took me like 15 minutesNone of their attacks even hurt
>>743013297there is a new perfect block gimmick that lets you continue your combo without interaction if you manage to perfect block, it's a massive buff to Katalina but requires knowing attack patterns to pull off
What skills are my fellow beabros running?The blame beam feels kind of weakI really like the charged spin attack but its really slow and idk how worth it'd be to bring skills that speed up just one skillAnd the clock buff one seems like it might be good but I'm not far enough in the DLC to know if its worthAll the other ones I tried are the gap closers which are nice enough
>>743013294paizuri simulator
Anyone tried out Ghanz's essence path? Going full enmity sounds like it could be viable with him going all the way down to the 25% hp that the celestial sigil requires and its a pretty straightforward reason to pick up the can't be healed by an ally sigils.
reminder to USE YOUR DAMN SUMMONSeach player can only summon once per quest
Best characters to trust cpu with?
>>743013612Cag is still the best AI companion.
>>743013349Everyone was so mind-broken by terminus weapons in the base game that getting out of that glass cannon mindset with ANY of the transcendent weapons felt impossible. Like literally all of them outperform it by 3rd transcend and some even earlier>>743013517Also a reminder to blow them early in the back-to-back boss fight gauntlets since they refresh after half the bosses are dead
>>743013439>idk how worth it'd be to bring skills that speed up just one skillWhen you get skill chain at level 3 her entire rotation becomes just spamming the charge attack and doing the chain. I use quick cooldown and cascade and the moment I do the combo ender after the chain the charge is off cooldown. So I started bringing quick charge sigil and have a summon with quick charge 10.You open the fight by running up and charging and at the end of the chain you will have a full gauge to activate clock.
>>743013297What would be good skills for kat?
What did Id mean by this
>>743013248yes that's why there are autoblock scripts and cheats that essentially give you godmode since you can nullify attacks without cancelling any action you are doing currently
>>743013718Magi nee is going to be pissed
remind me again, are these passive at all times or only active when you're equipping the actual weapon?god damn the ones you get from transcendance are busted.
>>743013892All the time. Yes they're busted.
What style did Id players land on? I'm assuming godmight is the standard because I'm struggling to believe that the dragonform one is worth the trade>>743013892All the time, transcend your weapons
>>743013968>>743013925Wait. I get health up from the defender weapon even if i'm using ascension or stinger???
>>743013704since you want to stay on the bosses ass the whole time while in ares, enchanted lands would be great, and to have more time in ares mode, frozen blade is also good, since you can use that skill twice. light wall can help you so enemies can't hit you for a short period of time in ares mode(it can make everyone invincible if you use it in that mode).the last one i have is winter's rain for some stun damage.
>>743013750>>743013337Well that seems fucking busted. >>743008547>beatdown being incredible makes up for it.What changed? Is it just the huge buffs it gets from his master traits?
Sort of dumb question but what effects bypass the can't be healed by allies effect of life on the line/celestial ventus? I assume the reason theres a lot of gain shield instead of HP skill conversions is because it can bypass that, but can you still buff someone with regen even if they have life on the line? Am I griefing Vas and Ghanz players by giving them regen?
Can the Warpath+ sigils get another character specific trait?
>>743014040yes, those are weapon masteries, that's why you want to craft and fully upgrade all weapons since they give you permanent stats and damage cap up
>>743014185AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>743014129griefing enmity players by healing them is a core granblue experience. (i don't know if it works or not but can't you just look at their HP bars?)
>>743014162no. you already asked this yesterday
>>743014043What does hitting g it twice do for ares?
>>743014232I didn't
>>743008090>DanchouNot much really changed just got a better excuse to slap on a 2nd support skill instead of locking myself to the decimate/OD/reginleiv trio. Really the main thing thats bigger impact is no longer having to run a terminus weapon for most of ER
>>743014216Back to the mines.
Having a total blast.Been avoiding threads since release to not get any heavy spoilers.It is amazing how many chinese on PC there are in the game.I dont think i ever saw a chinese on console.Very surprised that beezlebub was in the confluxFunny to because that fight was fucking MEGA. Those people crying about lucillius have not got a fucking chance against him.Still, I am constantly at cap.For most of my playthrough I have been at like 45k health still. Had to actively add health via traits and sigils.Not got a clue how to increase my damage cap because the new sigils are pretty shit for cap, despite slotting some on the summons already.Of course, the game is looping round to all end up with terminus weapons again, like I anticipated.Lastly, the game is giving echoes, WE+ and supV+ away at every other quest.
https://www.nexusmods.com/granbluefantasyrelink/mods/596?tab=descriptionDPS meter got updated for Endless Ragnarok.Holy shit the AI Siegfried is insane. This is a pre-DLC team with pre-DLC sigils on a Proud mission since I'm waiting on a friend to do the story. But he's going toe-to-toe with me as Charlotta spamming the plunge finisher.I assume the AI Siegfried is going to be even more insane once I actually do the DLC and get his masteries.
>captainYep, that's how I know it's over. Fuck you faggots stop bringing characters that deal 0 damage to Infinity bosses
>>743014256you mean frozen blade?after you finish a combo with Y in ares mode(up swing and then down swing finisher) she will leave this mode unless you start a new cycle, using a skill basically resets that combo cycle and you can continue staying in that mode.dodging and blocking can also lead to ares mode being cancelled and you have to build up the meter again.
>>743005719>>743003851There are shit loads of extra CCs.I have all the new chars unloclked and then a trade option opened in siero to sell CCs for azerites I think.
>>743014484I can't think of a more soulless mod to use than a damage meter
Is the game's combat good? I heard someone saying it feels a bit like Monster Hunter and I kinda wanted to try.
is there a "right answer" when I get done the conflux and am picking a reward package? or is it just whatever I need at the time is fineSome of them seem to have limited stock so idk if those are just better or if they refresh
>>743014256You don't use it twice in a row, you use it once to extend the combo and after that one is done you use it a second time to extend the combo again while the first charge is cooling down
>>743014558guh
>>743014558it feels like final fantasy 14 with the bosses sometimes. the action is more like what you expect from platinum games, since they were originally the devs
>>743014558The gameplay loop is similar to monster hunter (Go to quest counter -> Get quest -> Kill monster -> Get loot) But the actual gameplay is faster iframe slop. Think platinum games combatIt's very fun though
>>743014494>>743014596So while in ares, finish ares combo, use skill, keep using pact combo, ice again, pact combo?
Tuna-sama...I kneel...
Anyone done tests on the AI, seeing if any of the characters are better at AI, fixed or broken etc
>>743014732Yup, pretty much. Frozen Blade's cooldown will not be able to keep up forever though so you'll want at least one more attack skill like Enchanted Lands to weave in between.
IT'S HER!
>>743004576Lucy sigils are still good.
>>743004576The newer sigils will completely replace them. endgame will be farming luci infinity for luci summon with lv15 alpha/gamma
>>743013718Harvin children and old hags all look the same so you can't tell their age
>>743014917I've done a few rounds without any Chaos-difficulty upgrades like the new masteries, Siegfried is far and above any other characters I've tried. I might try building Maglielle next since anons said she attacks a lot, but Sieg is just insane, he's probably going to outdps you if given similarly good builds.
>>743015129seig was always good, he is top tier AI.
>>743015081>luci summon
>>743014558the structure is like MonHun but the gameplay is actually DC Universe Online.
>>743015240yeah his ai is solid it’s just he used to be bad back in the early days because his caps were really shit so the cpu couldn’t really take advantage of the perfect execution. over time they kept buffing his damage which led to the current day ai sieg doing silly damage
>>743015365It is not so much the damage, its the toolset and AI behavior.
>>743015491what do you mean
>>743008390>resources from the conflux now to craft terminus weapons.What tier of conflux and what tier reward?I need terminus for all the new chars.
>>743014484>dps meter
Which skills we picking for Fraux to accommodate Strength charges?Powerplant looks to be the second highest damage, is very safe due to making you fuck off back and into the air, and the accuracy seems fairly good.The gap closer feels non negotiable as general QoL for how much bosses sperg out.The punch barrage does the highest total damage but takes a while and anchors you so I’m a little more iffy on it.Indominus comes out fast, has a decent AoE and accuracy.Splendor seems even worse than it was before the browser rebalance.Parry I haven’t tested much.Def down seems a bit wasted because of damage cap mechanics, and seemed a bit mediocre otherwise.The slow seems likewise mediocre besides the effect.
FUCK, what is the best place to farm these now?
>>743015598I'm pretty sure I got 5 of the tokens from cycle 2 or 3
>>743015508He has fast skills and tools that help the team and because of that, and his normal attack timing loop he is pretty much constantly attacking the enemy. He just loops his times combo then a skill over and over.No down time of him fucking shit up, unlike other characters.Say for example percival (I am a percy main) has shit where his damage depends on his skill into schlatt loop, well AI would just dump the most damaging skills on a mook enemy that gets killed in 1 shot.His AI is shit.
>>743008090>frauxI havent lost a single mvp yet since dlc dropped and im on chaos++. she must be hella good. probably my favorite character in the entire game by far, love how bayonetta coded she is and how free form her playstyle feels.shes also really fucking hot
>>743015684Still roost and reign I think.
>>743015742Is MVP actually an indicator of anything meaningful?
>>743015650best seems to be powerplant, opportunity, def down and free slot. dead lands (the punch barrage) is way too slow, the dps is poorfor the free slot, i actually think splendor is ok. shields absorb a single hit regardless of how small they are so a 1hp shield will still block a 999k damage hit. might be good for ungabunga idknot sure if you've been living under a rock but atk buffs and def shred debuffs now ignore damage cap, also they stack on top of each other rather than overwriting too
>>743015789pre dlc top damage dealers were consistently getting mvp. i think heal/buffs debuffs also count, but im not sure what the real formula is
Just got to proud rank and holy shit, bahamut urgent quest was pretty kino
>>743015598btw for DLC characters you straight up get the crafting items for a whole terminus weapon from one run of #4, i'm pretty sureand you unlock conflux 4 after just a handful of Fatebreaker quests, not even progressing the first main objective or meeting the new characters yet.it's still pretty easy like #3, it was just a little slow on my fresh Transcendence weapons and bad bot team. but i've been upgrading my main a bit since #4 also gives Transcendence ~3-4 rewardsthey are a good start still, but Transcendence weapons are much nicer to use i think.
I don't like how unbalanced the masteries are, what should be a fun playstyle choice turns into railroading you into the best path because they're not even remotely close in power.
>>743015923the worst part is if your character's best path is also the most unfun
>>743015796>dead lands (the punch barrage) is way too slow, the dps is pooryou're retarded and have no idea of what you're talking about
>>743015975none of the top dps dummy showcases use it
>ignoring ever single shitposter and ragebaiterI love you guys.
>>743015896You didnt really answer the question anon.I have already done the conflux. I did bhamut a few times too and was able to unlock 1 of the DLCs terminus. Just anon said you can get the materials for terminus in conflux and I have not seen any, or if I did I missed it/skipped it (or maybe had something more important to claim)i have already fucked bub up in conflux, not sure if that is stage 4 or 5. i cant remember.
>>743015846Heals/buff/debuff heavily inflates scores, especially if you're the only one doing them.
>>743015650It's no Mag shield, but you can use Splendor repeatedly to continue increasing the shield. I like having it to spam during her free skill gimmick, it makes her take a lot more of a beating in my experience. I'd say you want,>Power PlantDPS + dodging AOEs easily.>Opportunity KnocksMobility + not wasting enemy downs.>All Fall DownQuick damage + debuff + buff removal.>SplendorSurvivability.
>>743015863I refought them with the expansion for practice and since i needed the terminus items for mag.Bahamut Versa is absolute kino. Proto bahamut even more so. No wonder i was somehow able to fight him enough to get almost all terminus weapons back in vanilla.
>>743015240Whats the sieg skill loadout?
>forget to unequip Zeta's skills>her AI drops to Bea's IQWatching her try to parry Pyet's prisms is painful
>>743004170Which is funny since the original has designs like this.
I have no idea what to even change anymore, feels like I have every possible source of DMG Cap in my build but I'm still overcapping
which weapon do i focus ascending first? defender?
>>743016078i love you granbro
>>743016105Not sure the meta, but i guess you ant him to have the skills that buff the team.In fact I think this is an overall ethos with ER, you want characters that have utility like healing, damage buff, damage cap and paralyze/glaciate. Though i dont even think those skills are that important or useful like it was in base game because now you want shit like link attack fast and freeezing the enemy doesnt help gain it.That makes me think link gain sigils are also probably really useful on everyone because you want link for lyria and summons asap.
the chaos mod that makes a damage ball spin around you in conflux does a stupid amount of damage.
>>743016078yeah, normally I'm parked out in a modest general but this is a nice change of pace for a bitI'm having a ton of fun with ER
>>743014484this is my guilty pleasure
Any tips on building the new gunner guy? He's fun to play so far and comes with a parry.
>>743016210So have you took tyrany and stamina off?Maybe you need to wait until you are max mastery and fully upgraded all weapons.
>>743016271why guilt? how else is someone supposed to test the ai companions? vibes?people are so stupid around dps meters, does anyone actually think it's viable to record every single damage fly text by hand and sum up the damage of the cpu characters? hell you probably can't even see all the damage numbers
>>743009314Retard hasnt upgraded his sigils
>>743016289>So have you took tyrany and stamina off?Yeah, I don't think I have even one damage trait in my build ATM
How necessary is the story to enjoy fapping to this game's girls?
>>743016354Not at all if you have terrible taste, essential if you're cool.
>>743016346What mastery level are you.Personally i am just running my survival build from before with utility stuff. Only gonna change it when I run into an issue or when I get max mastery.
>>743016223Defender to use, but you want to uncap all to 6 anyway.
>>743016354You need the lore to know which ones are dykes so you can avoid them (there are a lot of them).
>>743016339It's charlotta so it's w/e
>>743016354You have to at least know draphs heights so that you can skip all doujins that fuck it up and make them too tall
>>743015684Chaos+ Horde mission drops 60+ if you want to afk rather than run Roost. I don't how how it pans out in terms of efficiency for active play.
>>743009891>>743010237This is the move he has in GBVS rising, its his OP move in that.
>>743016536fediel big...
>>743016223The first set of chaos quests seems to only really drop defender mats.Though after those you can get the packs for both defender and stinger from conflux cycle 4
>>743011187>throws mobs at party>boasts about his endless power>proceeds to not do anything for the foreseeable future>repeatSuch a compelling character
>>743004738>500+% popping up everywhere Oopsies tehee
>>743016194Don’t ask about what went down at Europa Castle…
>>743005198Nothing wrong playing Narmaya, the easy solution if you care so much about being judged, is to get really damn good with her.
>>743015964Yeah, I like the idea but I think they kinda missed with the execution.
>>743016237Ahh fair enough. Yeah my instinct right now is to run him under Essence style with the skills salvator(really finding a lot of debuffs/ailments flying in ER bosses so debuff immunity is super nice) and draconic release(kind of a no brainer for what sieg wants to do). Last two slots are a toss up between Verdrangen's def down, Nelah Nev's stun buildup, and Uwe's insane gap close
>>743016643This is why Azusa is going to wind up cucking neechang…
>all the newfrogs naming like 10 different games when asked how this plays >not a single mention of PSOI must be getting old. no one even remembers it anymore and relink is pso coded through and through.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQo_OsInOuI
New player hereShould I pick weapons with more attack or stun?
>>743016643Why is it always Naru-nee...
Sieg bros, someone mentioned last night and I think I feel it: is the basic Y dash into X combo borked? I'm not getting perfects the same way chaining out of the dash. Something feels really wrong.
>>743016941Its all jibber jabber to me, i dont remember skill names for pretty much anyone and I have not looked at anyones mastery other than percy, my main.After i finish ER quests and maxxed percy I will move on to different characters, 1 at a time.Seig is actually 1 of my top 4 so will be playing him sooner than later.Seig, percy, kat and id are my top 4 I will play first.
>>743005198cag is very easy she has no gauge or modes and it basically [any combo] > [throw rock] at all times, with skills to compliment. but she's very fun because she has the best animations and (s)he's a funny narcissistic brat.
>>743017082As a new player it doesn't matter too much. Both stats are nice to have.
>>743017082HP, the defender weapon is perfect for a beginner. Your damage doesn't matter that much, just learn the fights, don't die, press your Link button when it comes up, try to hit your SSBA when someone else initiates it and you'll do fine enough. Damage optimization comes way later at endgame.If you can find them try to slot in a Guts, Autorevive and Potion Hoarder sigil so you won't be a drag on your team mates. The game isn't that hard until Proud difficulty, basically impossible to fuck up
>>743017025It is kinda like a simpler PSO2.
>>743017109Narmaya is either the coolest slut in the room countering the boss left and right or faceplanting. No inbetween. and there is a lot more of the latter than the former...
I miss the comfy town music.
>>743013047Mag is such a rare playstyle considering she's basically a flying sword swarm wielder like a Xianxia cultivator, but normally you can only experience that in chink mmo or some such.
She should've been in...
How much new content is there actually if people are already at endgame fights?
No surprises here
>>743018457Too sexy for nintendo game
>>743018770rosettabros don't deserve to be named and shamed
>>743018750there's a decent bit of content, people are blitzing the endgame at about a similar rate as launch>>743018770was there an update somewhere? this stopped working for me after the dlc came out
bros I just wiped a team on furycane chaos+how much HP am I supposed to have at that point? I'm only at 51k with lvl 4 transcendence
>>743018875yeah there's an updated one on nexus that came out a few hours ago
>>743018891>51kyou should have at least 70k anon
>>743018770BASEDWe really need raid logs like WoWIf your parse is less than 95% everyone should kick you for being a failure. If you play unoptimal character like Shitsetta you get kicked. PVMPER BALAAST gods only, if they add parses I'll convince my retail WoW guild to play this game and we will dominate the server with our GDKP
>>743018891100k+ at least. Fix your sigils.
>>743018958>>743019006what sigils am I supposed to be using now? I was just using my old terminus sigils
>>743018891I just S++'ed that fight with my 241k HP Bea facetanking all the bullshit with Stout Heart lol
>>743018457Is that Songs girlfriend?
>>743019106boyfriend*
Using DPS meters should be a permanent ban, it's just a crutch to substitute actual knowledge and lame besides.
>>743019076Definitely take off Tyranny. It reduces you HP outright. You don't need to get under any HP thresholds yet so you can take it off.
>>743019076get rid of tyranny. use combo booster if you need more amp to cap
>>743019089Bea just seems like she's pretty comfy..? Granted I'm only on Chaos+;but between the self healing and shit I can just unga everything?
>>743003619Is it still spatsslop or did they finally add lore accurate panties?
>>743019076remove tyranny, you don't really need the extra attack right now
>>743019236>keep yellow buff up>stack HP and Steel Nerves>do the dummest shit imaginable and still get away with itI even started using the swappable element resist sigils on my Defender weapon to outright ignore entire boss mechanics while wailing in their face, it's fucking retarded
Apparently Capt can have high uptime on substitute?
>parsee trannies
>>743019358Doesn't Sieg have 100% uptime at max mastery?
>>743007314Well what am implying is the opposite, numbers are so fucked in your favor that theres not much point to minmaxing
>>743019194>>743019219>>743019243thanks bwosgonna try again with this
>>743019356You're better off using stout heart and staying in red unless there is a mechanic shitstorm. Red is a massive damage buff that is worth way more than two sigil slots. It also lets you facetank shit in green while healing since its regen and drain are way higher than sigils.
>>743011546its so dumb, Avatar Finish after Avatar Finish. His Warpath went from garbage to mandatory.
>unclocked Conflux level 4The grindan' begins
>>743019601Yellow Buff is equal to lvl 99 Stout Heart, you LITERALLY cannot be knocked out of anything which combo's greatly with the charge attack meta skill treeUptime > Minor Attack Buff imo
>>743019417nta sieg has like 50% uptime on his substitute build, with link time giving a free refresh to it
>>743013505They ruined how he played on the base game and gave you with two absolute meme playstyles. Compared to what everyone else got he got shafted hard
hey I am very early in the game (ch6) and I've got two questionsWhen I want to recruit the Ragnarok chars it says that I will spoil myself but I feel like if I see them in the fucking shop it's already spoiler enough. Point is are the spoilers big or is it not important?And how the fuck do you play Ghandagoza ??
>>743019528At least read what the skill on that weapon does bro...
>>743020024>When I want to recruit the Ragnarok chars it says that I will spoil myself but I feel like if I see them in the fucking shop it's already spoiler enough. Point is are the spoilers big or is it not important?It doesn't matter, just recruit whoever you like>And how the fuck do you play Ghandagoza ??Hyperautism
>>743018374Is there a way to change the music? I miss the first town's comfy music too.
>>743016447really?
The number of Mystic Orbs does nothing for Flowery Seven, right? For some reason I thought you wanted to be at 3...
>>743018457The game already has enough carpet muncher reps. Give us the damn Zodiacs already.
>>743020226It's a long running gacha that tries to appeal to everyone, of course there's gonna be a bunch of dykes.
>>743020024>And how the fuck do you play Ghandagoza ??You dont, devs they dont play their game, much less this character. The DLC did nothing for him, they gave him options that dont work for him nor are suitable for spazzy and floor is lava enemies that fill up the game
>>743019601red is like almost double damage it's ridiculous she's still fucking weak
Are all the For (You) characters bisexual? Or is there one that will only reciprocate if you're Gran?
>>743019697Welcome to the mines, anonEnjoy your stay because you will be there forever
>Sandalphon wears heels
Is anyone else getting a lot of disconnects during online play?
>>743020494He cuts down mobs, he wears high heelsSuspenders and a braHe wishes he were a girlieJust like his dear papa
>>743020219Not that I could find.
>>743020231I thought the same for a while, but no it doesn't matter. All the Io's really do share the same 5 braincells, with 4 of them always thinking about explosions.
>>743020402Skill chain spam seems like the best way to go with her. Her normal combos are really fucking shit so you just want to use them as little as possible. Do one chain to get into clock mode and then keep spamming it since the cooldowns get reduced by 70% every time you complete the chain.
>see people recommend using defender weapons in ER>can't be awakened>fully awakened ascension shits on defender>all defender has is innate greater aegisam I missing something here or is using defender in ER retarded?
>ran out of rupies for transcendenceAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>743020742You haven't actually started ER yet. Do the first (1) quest in it.
>>743018891I just did it with 2 chinese PC fags and they must have been at 45k health and no damage because that shit was taking forever.I feel that all the good players will be on the later quests now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXgHkmvec3cfedielsisters this is your idea of compelling gameplay?
>>743019076>I was just using my old terminus sigils>>743019194I am still using my terminus sigils too, with tyranny and I am at 100k health.
>Roland Summon is a pocket Vane
>>743020904No, for me it's Mag>pisses a solid stream of swords>link time now lasts foreveryou are welcome, team
>>743020661is that some sort of muttmerican?
>wander into a slimeblasting lobby where we were all reasonably high-level>get 75k msp>everyone agrees to repeat the quest a few timesi am going to have to figure out who was good for slimeblasting again
Chest drops in the towns are also better now, worth opening if you see them.
Anyone figure out what Summons are best yet?
>>743021270I just look at the skills they give me and ignore the actual summon effect.
>>743020402Weak compared to who? Why do people keep saying new character are "weaK"
so is there no real single player content in the expansion(besides the roguelite stuff)?Or how deep do you have to get into chaos(+)?
>>743021267>finally added option to move around while matchmaking>cannot interact with chests or pickup items while doing thatThey were so close to getting it right...
Bea is fun! FUN!
>>743021560Apparently she "weak" anon
>720p cut-in of a primal lazoringI like the concept. But maybe not the execution, especially with a lot of SBA gain.
>>743018374me too
>>743021560Both Bea and this anon have 5 star weakness to fun
>>743020904Better than just skipping all the claw attacks and going straight into 5 balls.
>>743020904>>743021732>skill all claws and only orb>skip all orbs and only clawWhat if I just, like...use both
>>743021267They were always worth picking up between quests, mainly for fortitude crystals, but also rafele coins and curios.Collecting everything with good drop rate was like doing 3 roost and reigns quest worth of crystals.Though now they are dropping so much shit. I was shocked 1st time a silver centrum dropped.>>743021493The map closes every time you open a chest too, very annoying.I never used the map before but am now because its easy to use and I can sift out the nodes.
>>743021876>The map closes every time you open a chest tooIt doesn't
Are any of the new DLC character's AI any good?Trying to decide who to use
Does the DMG Dealt buff override DMG Cap?
>>743021970Does for me. Might be an option in settings.
I had to use every ounce of healing I had for that ID fight
>>743022124It should, go test it on the dummy.
>>743021839You claw to buff and then you nuke the shit out of whatever you want dead
After autorevive and guts got nerfed is it better to use potion hoarder
>>743022416Use them all
>>743022573Who is this semen demon
>>743022626Have you not played the game at all?
>>743022626bro..? Thinking about playing the game?
>>743022416Realistically are quests even lasting long enough that your burn through both charges?
>>743015742She's also really fucking gay
Why does it say 100%/50%? I max upgraded every weapon here as far as I know
>>743022626A very trustworthy and good lady. The word "motherly" has even been used
>>743022753You transcended terminus yet?
>>743022847How do you do that? I see no options at the smith or shopkeeper
>>743020694I personally prefer the one that extends the clock duration since it comes with tons of damage cap and lets you cycle through skills on loop anyway, from my testing it's pretty equal.
>>743022901idk but you will most likely get items to transcend the terminus as you are going through the difficulties, just like you have been getting other items to transcend the base weapons then ascension.
>>743022416Use them all, but even potion hoarder got nerfed with the new potion changes healing a set amount of health instead of a %.
I haven't cleared Lucilius before because I stopped before he came out. Does he drop anything worth still using?
>>743022984The sigils are still worth it, they're obtainable from gate 4 though.
>expected Fediel to have a mommy voice>she has a bratty onee san voiceholy shit my dick>her combo is her cutely stomping the ground.holy shit my.heart>obsessed with dyads, or the joining of two bloodlinessex obsessed dwagon
