>How can these people be so shameless and self-absorbed?They spent a full eight years and $200 million, only to end up with a piece of crap like Starfield.And now that Microsoft has laid off staff at Bethesda, they actually feel wronged?These people are living in a fucking bubble.And Todd, go fuck yourself. Go make Elder Scrolls6 for me instead of wasting your time on protests.
That’s not even the most absurd part.Bethesda employees held a funeral for a group of living people.What the hell is wrong with these people?Do they even know how the real world works?Do they think money just appears out of thin air?So they can just waste Microsoft’s money however they want, make a bunch of crap games, and do whatever they please?
Bethesda employees.
Why don't they protest in Microsoft's home country?
>>743067583>Bethesda makes a woke lame Starfield which is a guaranteed failure?Silence.>Bethesda doesn't make a Skyrim or Fallout game?Silence.>What are you even doing there all day long?Silence.>Someone wakes you up from you cushy job?REEEEEEEE
>>743067583hi guerilla PR firm doing damage control for microsoft
>>743067583OP get something straight. "Bethesda Game Studios Union" is not "Bethesda Game Studios". It's closer to the opposite. You have companies that make things (good) and you have 'unions' of workers at those companies who try to throw spanners in the works and prevent making things unless an exorbitant amount (all previous profit) goes to pay the workers for their shuffling around. I say previous profit instead of profit or potential profit because if any unions had their way the company would not be commercially viable and there would be no profit and no products (bad)
>>743067583please fire them all curry mummy
>>743068078Go to hell, Todd.Your mother is going to die in her sleep tonight.
Just because i know that psycho from the other thread is lurking here.You're a weird ass freak and I'm glad you got fired. You just made up a bunch of bullshit about SMT1 and star fox because you're either baiting or actually as retarded the words you wrote. No wonder you hate joy and beauty. You're a wretched human being who will only destroy. You hate video games. If you were one of the developers laid off they did a good thing pushing you further towards homelessness and starvation. You and your mind are hideous.
>>743067583Microsoft's jeetification was extremely fast and instantly pervasive. They went from a comfy white dude programming shop to a layoff filled, slop driven izzat farm that does nothing but replace American workers with H1B Indian slaves and just normal Indian in India slaves. You cannot let a jeet into a position of power or he will instantly do his best to fire all non Indians, obliterate your company, and mutate it into just another branch of the Indian slave hivemind.>Verification: not required.
>>743067873....is that supposed to be a caricature based on Kotick?
>>743068164>You have companies that make things (good) and you have 'unions' of workers at those companies who try to throw spanners in the worksPretty safe to say that they went hand in hand making true horrors.
>>743067583They would have a better chance to be heard if they somehow delay the release of GTA VI.
Fallout 76 seems to have been hit the hardest.
>have a team of 30 and make god tier videogamesor>have a team of 3000 and make shit videogames while dealing with all their bullshityeah i think we need to hire more
why are chuds so mad at unionsworkers should have rights and protection
>>743068604You should join them in their march in 5 days. Also donate to their cause.
>>743068604Because chuds hate the game industry and want to destroy it.
>>743068604>>743068694Chud means fuck in Kamala Harris's native language.
>>743068604>workers should have rights and protectionThat's no excuse for making a crappy game.If you can't do your job well, then you don't deserve it.
>>743067858Their chairs are showing solidarity.
>>743068694There you are!You're a weird racist freak.Fuck you!
>>743068604I'm a chud and I don't hate unions. They're kind of a double edged sword but they still give the common man leverage against The Man. I think people specifically don't like them in this case because the western gaming industry has been so woke and gay the last ~8 years and /v/ wants to see it burn.
>>743067583Bethesda employees finally end up under a company who expects their big IPs to have a new entry within a decade and suddenly they feel they need to protest being over-worked.
Are the layoffs jeets or white people
>>743068867Ayran genocide is justice as a matter of policy.
>>743067835These people really are children and theater kids. Layoffs happen everywhere, but they think their job is somehow special enough to garner a disproportional amount of sympathy for them. I'd feel much more sympathy for someone working a practical job that contributes something of true value to society than office workers drawing doodle concept art, writing minutes, taking long Starbucks breaks inbetween, or doing DEI HR shit.
>>743067583+9001 internets to whoever brings anti-immigration picket signs.
>>743067583if it was in my town I'd show up. Microsoft shouldn't lay off white people and replace them with poojeets
>>743068604Get your union to make consoles $99 and games $20 and I'll support them.
>>743068875Unions are the useful idiots of (((the man))). Always have been.
>>743068604you mean the same unions that fucked people over during covid?
>>743067583>make shit, woke games no one wants to buy>surprised you're out of a jobThe arrogance of these people.
>>743068245Nigger
>>743069060I need that selfie video about women working at a game company.That bitch in the video spends 90% of her time eating, sunbathing, and enjoying life.The remaining 10% of the time, she’s working on her laptop.It’s lazy bitches like her who are ruining the whole industry.
>>743067583>>743067835They moved from Virgínia to the democrat hellhole of Rockville Maryland because of providence equity, the taint is done.
>>743067583>MUH UNIONSKek, woke retards couldn't have just made a good product and actually keep their jobs
>>743068694Because it's full of people that actively hate what most gamers want.
>Grrrr, leave the billion dollar corporation ALONE or I'll shit my pants >:(I dip my nuts in the ganges river
>>743067583well this happens when you have been hiring protestors instead of professionals for over a decade
>>743069343No one asks you to stop prostesting kek
>>743069343No one is defending the billion dollar corporation, but rather are attacking the entitlement of people who have made shit games.
I'd rather have white social justice fags than Indians of any political alignment.
>>743067583They could fire 80% and I bet productivity wouldn't decrease. Like what Elon did to Twitter.
>>743069539So the result is you end up with undesirable shit regardless.
>>743067583They do realize all they're doing is signing their own pink slips for the next inevitable round of layoffs right?
>>743069242Enough with the racism.
>>743069539>I'd rather have woke poorly coded shitty video games instead of poorly coded jeet video games
>>743069539The white social justice fags bring the shitskins in, anon
>>743069663Xbox will lay off another 1,600 people next year.
>>743067583These are the same people that gloated when they made these shit, Woke games. They deserve to be blacklisted.
>>743068604>workersGame devs are Bourg Intell.
>>743069539correct
>>743069746Matt's wish came true, so he has no right to complain.
I want Iran to nuke Microsoft
>>743069742all from blizzard, the meltdown will be hilarious because not even tbe glowies are safe
>>743068604Workers should have rights and protection even if they're shit at their job and don't bring valve to the company?
>>743069742Please target Blizzard next mommy Asha *prayer*
>>743067583rip TES6
>>743069954You and I both know Rare's getting put down next. They've got nothing aside from SoT updates on their roadmap. Blizzard at least has shit coming out.
>>743068604Epstein's board.
>>743067583>show up for workers who make the games we loveThat's the joke. You stopped making the games I LOVE decades ago. Go flip some burgers lol.
>>743069862How performative do you gotta be to be this much of a fucking loser. Not an ounce of honesty is in this guys bones holy shit.
>>743067583Eh, good for them. Though they will probably let it get subverted anyway. For once in your life focus, you dummies.
>>743069968This is just a convenient excuse for Bethesda. Look at the pile of shit that was Starfield.
>>743067583they want them so much they should hire them all on tod roger's dime.leftists are such parasites they weren't satisfied with leeching off investors for 8 years making crap that absolutely no one bought they want it to continue forever and ever and its ur fault if you say no. god what entitled crybabies.
>>743067858watch one of them get a heart attack mid protest and have headlines blame it on xbox
>>743068604Unions benefit the guys at the top the mafia used to run them and it was one of their most lucrative businesses.
>>743068694leftist leeches think they're entitled to a job that they're absolutely crap at lmao and they train their pet dogs like you to bark for them.
>>743067583>>743067835>>743067858>>743067873It's funny how we have fucking cyberpunk-tier big tech on one side and leftist tranny unions on the other side and gamers just want both of them to die kek
>>743069746>>743069862kek hope asha jeets up their studio
Reminder that if fascism is right wing that means the right is the art wing, as fascism had the absolute best aesthetics, its one of its main pillars.
Being against unions is the most retarded thing a worker can do btw
>>743068604>>743068694because 1. these cunts have been wanting their critics dead for the last 8 years2. they produce nothing of value3. they're actively ruining the development of other games that people actually want with bully tactics4. they're entitled karen bitches and sex pest male feminists who shouldn't of ever been hired if it wasn't for nepotism
Workers deserve rights, but at the end of the day the customer is always right. If you're constantly sitting on your ass taking forever to make games and having said games come out as shitty projects, then the workers are obviously going to be on the chopping block.
>>743069539i'm celebrating immigration into your country because it'll exterminate the karen population. canada just had a liberal pro-immigration minister who lost his seat to an indian migrant who was a dominos franchisee.
>>743067583We don’t want trannies or jeets making games.
>>743067583>Mobilize all this effort to protestWhy not just make good games?
>>743070565They lost the technology.
>>743067835Solidarity foreverSolidarity foreverSolidarity foreverFor the union makes us strong[Verse 1]When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall runThere can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun;Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of oneBut the union makes us strong[Chorus]Solidarity foreverSolidarity foreverSolidarity foreverFor the union makes us strong[Verse 2]It is we who plowed the prairies; built the cities where they trade;Dug the mines and built the workshops, endless miles of railroad laid;Now we stand outcast and starving midst the wonders we have made;But the union makes us strong[Chorus]Solidarity foreverSolidarity foreverSolidarity foreverFor the union makes us strongYou might also likeMi AmorAUT of ORDAUsed to Be YoungMiley CyrusPush UpsDrake[Verse 3]They have taken untold millions that they never toiled to earnBut without our brain and muscle not a single wheel can turnWe can break their haughty power, gain our freedom when we learnThat the union makes us strong[Chorus]Solidarity foreverSolidarity foreverSolidarity foreverFor the union makes us strong[Verse 4]In our hands is placed a power greater than their hoarded goldGreater than the might of armies, magnified a thousand-foldWe can bring to birth a new world from the ashes of the oldFor the union makes us strong[Chorus]Solidarity foreverSolidarity foreverSolidarity foreverFor the union makes us strong
>>743067885of course people like him get to stay in the company
>>743070102A few days ago, Obsidian was working on Avowed 2.Then Microsoft announced layoffs.Matt's wish came true.
>>743068604>workersyou have to do work to be a worker
>>743070428The hate is directed towards the people, not unions themselves. These people have produced shit after shit, and gloated about "owning the chuds" (the people that actually buy video games), then they expect to keep their jobs after losing these companies a lot of money. It's the audacity and entitlement, not the unions.
>>743070647well no he specifically asked to be replaced by a niggerthey just got rid of him
>>743070589A tried and true NASA "fire all the competent people" classic
>>743067583Imagine being so retarded you think protesting and marching does anything
>>743067583Starfield was fun, eat shit soulless corpo shill
>>743067583We should do a “make TESVI already lazy fags” counterprotest
>>743067917Looks like a thumb going in a butt hole
>>743067835>Bethesda employees held a funeral for a group of living peopleThey worked for Bethesda, whatever is left of them can't truly be called alive, I assume Todd Howard came in with a comically large syringe labeled Life essence and drained each employee as they were escorted out the building.
>>743070428Being pro union didn't seem to get then much. Imagine paying dues to something that only has power in striking and all it does is organize a protest for a day.
>>743070778He's not defending the corporations. Maybe read next time?
>>743070536>canada just had a liberal pro-immigration minister who lost his seat to an indian migrant who was a dominos franchisee.The quickest way to defeat a flawed system is to completely abuse its mechanisms.Oh, left-wing governments love immigrants and gay people so much.Well, then, let immigrants and gay people take away every old leftist’s job.That way, the system will inevitably collapse.
>>743070946because you live in a corporatist hellscape that is run by oligarchs who have spent the past 80 years making it impossible for workers to organize effectively.Keep sucking their cocks and maybe one day they'll give you a shiny penny, though.
>>743069521>>743070965They're functionally identical, you dickless niggers.
>>743067583>>How can these people be so shameless and self-absorbed?Who are you quoting?I don't see how the employees are being self-absorbed. Union activity is extremely risky.>They spent a full eight years and $200 millionThe employees did? Not really.>And now that Microsoft has laid off staff at Bethesda, they actually feel wronged?Why not? Microsoft probably mismanaged that shit, considering how incompetent they are. Imagine you worked at bethesda for years, then microsoft comes in and shits the bed then fires you. I would be angry.>These people are living in a fucking bubble.You live in a bubble of 4chan delusional faggotry.
>>743067583>union
>>743070719>well no he specifically asked to be replaced by a niggerHe will be replaced by an Indian.You can't be racist against Indians.
>>743071041What do you mean?
>>743071037>Keep sucking their cocksWill do. They're the ones who put food on the table. I would rather side with them than with you. You terrible fucking psychopath.
>>743070536>>743071031Friendly reminder that immigration numbers in Canada are requested by the provinces and the provinces that ask for most immigrants are run by the right wing Conservative parties who are in the pocket of corporations that need to exploit cheap labour to suppress wages.
>>743071117Learn English, cocksmoker.
>>743068408Add an argonian women in the game who somehow gains power and fires every non argonian to replace them with argonians.
>>743071151and thankfully leftists will provide the immigrants for them to suppress wages
>>743071151Bernie Sanders used to be for strong borders until Woke retards decided that was racist.
>>743067858I would rather have White LGBTC3PO freaks than retarded lying pajeets who only steal and embezzle money
>>743071031>ackshually it's racist to claim that the pedo-elite millionaire who just fired thousands of American workers while issuing H-1B visas like crazy might have an agendaI hate these shitlibs so much.
>>743070756It's a social pressure release valve, nothing more. It's SOMETIMES an indicator of future voting habits that can frighten weak politicians, but anyone with a set of balls in a position of political power (the kind of people who actually cause problems) ignore them. There's only one way to force change.Exhibit A: wall street protests (nothing)Exhibit B: United Healthcare CEO murder (several months of life-saving healthcare approvals)
>>743067583>choses a picture with the least amount of trannies and poclel
>>743071209>argonianI need an Argonian maid. Where can I find her?
>>743071121>will be forever be grateful for the opportunity to work in America sir
>>743071223>i-it's always someone else's fault!!!!!!>no ignore that my sports tea- I mean political party is complicit in all this!!!>OTHER GUYS ARE BAD OKAY >:((((You are a buck broken cuck.
>>743071286Your tranny pills are not life saving
>>743071031funny how the leftists spreading those rumors are self-reporting as massive racists."Oh she's indian she must be intentionally firing workers to replace them with her kind."
>>743071354are you illiteratei agreed with you and expanded upon your point
>>743071337That is how pajeetes think, yes
>>743067885no wonder it was shit
>>743071182I'm just baffled on what you're implying. Criticising employees who are shit at their jobs, and commenting on why they got fired is defending corporations? Like, you have to have double digit IQ to arrive at that conclusion.
>>743071383I am racist against indians.
>>743067873how very off that they depicted the "evil boss" as pale skinned male and not as the Indian lady that actually laid them off.curious.
>>743070756>>743071286If a protest gets big enough it can actually cause problems for the establishment. The problem is that America is a giant country with tons of police forces, so they can just send police and military from a different state to squash people, while it's harder for workers to organize across state lines. Not to mention that they bring immigrants in to take over essential jobs like trucking and farming, the kind of people who have tons of leverage.
>>743067583damn that suckshttps://youtu.be/Mw5uhC99-Aw?si=e2ixeWVag7vyJ_Fi
>>743071463Just Indians?
>>743071495oh please let it get big enough that they get arrested for rioting I so want most of those cunts to be thrown in prison.
>>743071383Indians are the most racist folk around. They are the Jews of brown people.
>>743067873>can't even make good art when their careers depend on it
>>743071279I would rather have people who aren't retarded and make good games to be honest. White LGBTC3PO freaks and retarded lying pajeets can both equally get fucked.
>>743070565>Why not just make good games?how
>>743071428>will suck cock in exchange of food sir
>>743071286>several months of life-saving healthcare approvalsIs this one of those things that was already happening and people just think it was Luigi's doingBecause that's what it sounds like
>>743071583ya but they aren't the ones spreading malicious rumors that she's replacing them with indians. it's not the chuds either we're celebrating these cunts getting fired.
>>743071450
>>743071689why did you blow up mexico?
>>743071568t. Bob Page
>>743071383>funny how the leftists spreading those rumors are self-reporting as massive racists.Liberals are all hypocrites.They constantly waste their time obsessing over illegal immigration and the LGBTQ+ community.Because they have high-paying jobs, they assume all immigrants will clean their toilets and pick up their trash.As a result, when the Republicans send in legal Indian immigrants to replace them, these idiots immediately turn into racists.They simply discriminate against the poor, believing the poor need to be “saved” by them. They do this to satisfy their own vanity and narcissism.
>>743071681>malicious rumors
>>743067583what is this meant to actually do? does the union actually have any power, or is it just ann imptent bunch of leftoids screaming into the wind?
>>743071776Hilarious how conservatives in the US and the UK are the ones mass importing Indians.
>>743071776These fuckers are always NIMBYs. It's not a problem/not real until it affect them personally. Leftists that aren't two-faced pieces of shit are rare.
>>743072039Union protests are how the evil far right chud CEOs decide who to fire next.
>>743072039Leftoids have been fetishizing this shit lately, talking about how unions would fix all problems magically. Turns out these unions are actually super weak. Back in the day the KKK-led unions would pick fights with the US military and win.
>>743067583t. Pinkerton
>>743072050Well, leftists should be praising the conservatives for their progressiveness then. Multiculturalism is our strength after all.
>>743072208>immediately tries to deflectlmao
>>743067583The gall of saying this when they've been withholding singleplayer Fallout and Elder Scrolls away from the world for a decade
>>743072208Starmer in the UK actually cut migration, but people assumed the opposite was happening. Quite funny.
>>743072292Was that the fault of the workers or the leadership at Microsoft?
>>743072319good news everyoneinstead of importing 10 trillion isis members every year, i will instead import only 9
>>743071450>Criticizing employees who got fired by corporations is the same as defending corporationsCorrect. Everything the employees did was done with corporate oversight and approval.
>>743072291Deflect what? The original post didn't say who was bringing them in, but rather pointing out the hypocrisy of leftists when it's *THEIR* jobs being affected.
>>743067583>marchers pathing fucks up and they get stuck on the terrain
literally everyone ITT
>>743067873>OUR game industry>OUR devs>allies>bsky
>>743072426Oh no, they're hypocrites. So's everybody. Focusing on hypocrisy is a dividing tactic.
>>743072405Regardless, the games are shit and lost money. These people aren't entitled to their jobs. They likely had influence on what was being created. That's not defending corporations, but rather criticising entitlement.
>>743072637i do care about these people losing their livelihoodsits good
>>743067583If these assholes can miss work to protest then clearly they bring zero value to the company they work for.
Is Todd really sperging out just because Obsidian gets to make another Fallout game?
>>743067583Why don't these retards and their supporters realize even if a game is well received it won't always sell well?I doubt anyone complaining about the layoffs have bought games from Hellblade to Hi-Fi Rush to South of Midnight to The Outer Worlds to Avowed. I doubt they even have Game Pass either.
>>743072669Hypocrisy should always be called out. Doesn't matter if it's right-wing, left-wing, or centrist.
>>743072872No, that's a diversionary tactic to shift the conversation away from pragmatism. Kill yourself.
>>743072769Good news. All workers who participated in the protest march will be added to Microsoft’s next round of layoffs.
>we cant afford to pay these people anymore>oh theyre walking, guess that changes the mathdo libfags really think
>>743070428Most people still forget tech jobs already pay a lot and provide benefits.Game dev is even stranger as it's a dream job for many that they'll sacrifice their health and pay just to work at any studio.
>>743071534No I'm pretty much racist against every race, including kikes, niggers, spics, poles, chink, wops, gooks, anglos, germans, slavs. I probably missed a group. I believe in prejudice equality, I hate everyone.
>>743072854>The Outer Worldsps5
>>743072050So, I'm assuming you're left wing? Is this not a good thing from your perspective, though? It's POC immigrants getting jobs.
>>743067583>fire some employees>the ones you didn't fire complain and throw a protest march about it>now you know exactly which ones to fire nextBig brain move.
>>743072698Everything they did had to be approved by corporate, so it's 100% corporate fault. >They likely had influence on what was being createdCorporate had to approve it all>That's not defending corporations, but rather criticising entitlement.Functionally identical.
>>743072928So you're against trans rights, Wokeness, open borders, and affirmative action? Things which bring more problems than they're worth?
Seriously why would they fire all the engine developers at id instead of just turning them into a support studio and getting other studios in Microsoft to start using idtech instead?Wouldn't that save them a boatload of money from having to license UE5 and also maybe produce a modern Halo game that doesn't feel like shit to play?
>>743073054So let's just say it's functionally identical, how is that a bad thing?
>>743072957Well, I appreciate the consistency.
>>743068694Have you seem the state of the game industry? The AAA level desperately needs a purge.
>>743072951>too stupid to consider the economic consequences of a lockout or strikePeople used to have a brain
>>743073165listen fat, the culture war is a distraction from the class warhowever i would rather elon musk rule the world than stop fighting the culture war
>>743073242Why have you been insisting that you're not defending corporations if you don't think defending corporations is a bad thing?
>>743071279Nah, the Indians are more honest.
>>743068694Chuds are resentful at what games have become. That's why. Games used to be made for cishetronormative people who were unapologetically white and patriarchal (you know, normal people). These things are considered bad things now by corporations and need to be fixed. Which is likely the reason why entertainment media is failing generally.
I feel like this post would have been better if you hadn't instantly begun sucking Microcock in the 2nd post.I agree forming unions in the modern gaming economy is like putting on a fire blanket around yourself and friends while the buildings burning down, but Microcock and the rest lit the fire. Fuck them all. They can all get ass fucked.Both parent company and their subsidiaries need to crash hard.
>>743073174>using idtechThere’s no way they’d be cheaper than outsourcing to India.Supporting a game engine is expensive—it’s like reinventing the wheel.Plus, Microsoft already has a team supporting the UE5 engine: The Coalition, the studio behind *Gears of War*.There’s simply no reason for Microsoft to continue funding id Software.
>>743073383The leftists are the ones doing the most damage with that culture war bullshit. Leftists vilify white people ("whiteness" being something that must be destroyed, and "white fragility" when you call out racism against white people) and focus on fruitlessly trying to make equality of outcomes work.
>>743073626Unreal is shit
>>743072050>conservatives...the UKI always see this claim a lot, but aren't European conservatives basically liberals in the US?
>kills unions>reduces 13 layers of middle management to 3>disproves h1b replacement allegations>calls herself a proud American>donated to Trumps 2024 campaign >cute as a buttonSingle handedly redeeming jeets for me. Long may she reign
>>743073423My point is that corporations are merely a hierarchy of people. And these people have to do their jobs, which means firing those who are redundant. What's wrong with that?
>>743073626>The Coalition, the studio behind *Gears of War*.Is that supposed to mean anything to anybody? You talk like a marketer. Nigger.
>>743072998I always thought most of these unions are contracted out and usually only do QA.
>>743067873they really are trying to rewrite history lmao
>>743072787bruh hes been hoarding that shit for over a decade. hes livid
>>743073383>>743073694OWS was doing something, then some how progressive stack took hold.I wouldn't be surprised WTO protests also pushed cultural politics.
>>743073795>I am not defending a corporation>Okay, I AM defending a corporations, but what's wrong with that? I accept your concession.
>>743067835>>743067858>>743067873So do these guys live paycheck to paycheck? Do they never consider in this day and age their nonessential jobs can evaporate as the entertainment industry collapses around them? What makes them truly believe they should suck off the tit of a corporation that obviously has zero use for slackers and talentless hacks? There's a point where fake it til you make it only holds up for so long until you actually have to learn to swim or drown or have a back-up plan.
>>743067583>A march? Where's your protest permit from the mayor?>Okay, but where's your permit carrying license?>Now what about your license acquisition permit?>Okay, now I just need to see a receipt for the latest version of skyrim or Fallout 4 and you can begin your march>No, that's a receipt for Fallout New Vegas, it doesn't count>Oh? You don't have Skyrim or Fallout 4?>No worries, just hand over your credit card and I'll buy them for you>I said give me your credit card>STOP RESISTING>*fires twenty shots from his revolver without reloading
>>743070428Are unions anti immigration? No? Then I'm anti union.
>>743067885So that's why Starfield is so great...
>>743069746>>743069862Do you think he could become one of us now that he has been completely tossed out my heartless izzat jeet minoroties? Like when the villain ends up on your team later on? I wonder about that, but I also think he's too far gone in his cultish ways.
>>743067858Choose your starter
>>743067873These companies need a shakeup. What they need to do is make games for normal men again. These games suffer from effeminate masculinity, which judging by dev group photos (consisting of women and gay-looking guys with certain political opinions) I'm not surprised how the final product turns out. Corporations have the final say, but they don't micromanage every aspect (it's just not logistically possible) so the devs have a hand in these games being shit.
>>743068604I'm mad at unions because they're all absolutely useless and exist to steal money from my friends and family.
>>743070565uuhhh don't be antisemitic!
>>743074008You haven't said *why* that's a bad thing, though. You're just acting like an NPC that gets triggered by certain buzzwords. Very one-dimensional thinking.
>>743074360Why'd you insist you weren't doing it if you don't think it's a bad thing?
>>743073807>Is that supposed to mean anything to anybody?This studio is responsible for providing technical support to all Xbox studios using UE5. idiot.Plus, they’re the people who know the UE engine best in the world, second only to Epic.There’s no way Microsoft would spend money supporting the id Engine.Because they already have a more established UE5 team.And unlike the idiots at other studios, Coalition is actually hiring new employees.
>>743073423If corporations are so bad and evil, then why would they want to work at them? Are they bad and evil?
>>743074162No. These people see the world though a completely different lens than us.
>>743068604because they're morons who got lied to for decades about what unions are
>>743074454>This studio is responsible for providing technical support to all Xbox studios using UE5.So? >IdiotFaggot
>>743074430Because that would be like someone calling you "Chris" but your name is "John," so you correct them. I'm not saying Chris is bad name, but rather (in this hypothetical) my name is John.
This is literally christians craving the faces of the old statues because they find it "sinful"
>>743067858you deserve this for going into STEM, instead of liberal arts. art colleges being full of people like this now is why AAA games fucking suck now
>>743074591Yeah, Christians were the Woke retards of their day.
>>743067835>Bethesda employees held a funeral for a group of living people.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pLleiKY_0M
>>743074579>Your name is Chris>No, it's John>Okay, my name IS Chris, but what's wrong with that? Shifting goalposts, Chris.
>>743068963>ayranSee what I mean? Chud means fuck in Kamala Harris's native language.
First of all: This shows not enough people got firedSecond of all: HOLY FUCK IT'S SO FUCKING OVER, IF THESE ARE THE SCUM AT BETHESDA, HOPING FOR A GOD TEST IS LIKE HOPING FOR THE SUN TO RISE IN THE WEST
>>743067873Why don't all these former employees should form their own studio? It's obvious they have better business acumen than their former bosses. They seem organized already, it shouldn't be hard for them to run a studio and keep dozens to hundreds of people employed.
>>743067583Total Bethsedhshit and MS death
>Replacing white people with jeets is considered anti-woke
>>743067583Microsoft needs to get the whip out and crack down hard on Bethesda.
>>743074853You're focusing on irrelevant things. The point of this discussion has become confused. You seem to believe defending corporations is bad, regardless of context.
>>743074984my fellow whites, i know i spent over a decade saying i hate you and want you replaced, but now that i'm the one in danger of being replaced you must defend me from the foreign menace
>>743074072When Cesar Chavez was the United Farm Workers president, they were against immigrants. They labeled them scabs and supposedly even attacked them.When people talk about dwindling union membership I never hear how UFW went from 70,000 in the 70s to 5,000 today.
>>743074984These people are getting a taste of their own medicine. They only care about immigration when it's their jobs being threatened.
>>743074984Maybe in Bizarro World. Brown/blackwashing is one of the central pillars of woke.
>>743075132A decade ago a state university in San Francisco laid off a hundred IT union members after forcing them to train their H-1B replacements.It's pretty funny, but most of them likely voted for the policies that got them laid off.
>>743067583>NOOO YOU CAN'T FIRE PEOPLE FOR BEING BAD AT THEIR JOB, OR WORSE YET JUST NOT EVEN DOING ANY WORK TO BEGIN WITHYes, you can.Better luck at McDonald's.
>>743075096>>743075132>Corporate tells you to have certain opinions>Fires you anyway
>>743074547>So?id is deadretard
>>743074176I go with unistall.exe
>>743075294Well, a lot of them believe that DEI shit, anyway. Also, if corporations are evil, why would you want to work for evil? Sounds like you might be evil.
>>743075294True, all the devs are right wing and they're being manipulated into tweeting dumbass leftist shit.
Microslop could dissolve Bethesda and nobody would notice.
>>743075449Most of them are probably apolitical, actually.
>>743074454Unreal is shit though, so no one cares.
>>743075214I wonder if these people will turn on Wokeness when enough of them get fucked over by Indians in the job market, a minority group that's smart enough to do white-collar jobs, come in large quantities, and will work for less. I bet sudden it will become a problem.
>>743067583>absolute retard thinks Todd Howard is protestingYou people are so stupid it is actually impressive
>>743067583Todd is going from being surrounded by trannies and faggots to being surrounded by street shitters.
>>743075449>>743075514According to some study, most college students lie about being Woke retards. So maybe there's a "Emperor's New Clothes" thing going on.
>>743075548>so no one caresIndians care.That’s why you’ve been replaced by Indian programmers.Enjoy the fruits of your “woke” efforts.
>>743075703What is Phil up to nowadays?
>>743069539white social justice fags are the people who ruined the gaming industry you fucking dipshit Not niggers. Not kikes. Not jeets. Not trannies.No nigger, it is White fucking liberals.
>>743075406I've seen so many upset that Meta is going through major layoffs. Those dumbfucks complain about the company all day and still feel bad for the people making six figures and have contributed to social media and dwindling privacy.
>>743075610>Todd Howard is protestingFallout is my game! Mine!!!!!Only I have the right to make a new Fallout game!!!!You can't hand it over to Obsidian!!!!AAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!
>>743075748It was corpos, dumbass. >Not kikesCorpos ARE kikes.
>>743075857Why would corporations push hard for DEI and Woke shit if they only care about making money?
>>743067873these are the people who told truckers and farmers to learn to code lol
>>743075737>What is Phil up to nowadays?To grow old
>>743068604Because modern unions have been completely co-opted by marxist faggots who don’t actually want to provide better conditions for individual workers to earn and make a living but spread their cancerous ideological diarrhea. Not to mention the bethestards are doing this because they were fired for being incompetent do nothings that waste money and time.
>>743074162>Do you think he could become one of us now that he has been completely tossed out my heartless izzat jeet minorotiesThat would require him to actually abandon the gay race communism he practices. He isn’t going to hate jeets because they’re retarded shit eaters, he will hate them because they’re took his job.
>>743067873So it was the bosses pushing for unpopular social justice bullshit to be put in games? The bosses did this to lose money and fire their employees? That was their goal?
>>743075912They thought it would make them money. It's the only reason corporations do anything.Same reason corporations love immigration. Lower wages = more money.
>>743074984It’s DEI diversity hires being replaced by cheap thirdies. They are not looking at it from the realm of substance but rather meaning behind it. If they said. If they framed this as trying to “further diversify the workplace” then they would probably still seethe about it but be far less vocal.
>>743075912Don't companies like Microsoft make tens of billions, while games are a fraction of that profit?
>>743076046Funnily enough they can't actively show their resentment of Indians because it goes against their equality of outcomes retardation. Whites getting replaced by browns is a good thing in their ideology. So they would be seen as MAGA if they speak up against being replaced by Indians.
>>743076254>So they would be seen as MAGA if they speak up against being replaced by Indians.I’d bet that a lot of fake liberals have already started taking off their masks and turning into real racists.Because they’ve painfully discovered that immigrants are here to take away the high-paying jobs they were counting on, not to clean their toilets.
>>743067583>>743067583>>How can these Bethesda troon people be so shameless and self-absorbedIt's a mystery
>>743067583KWABOTY
>>743068604You know what evil capitalism would be? It would be something like Expedition 33 dev firing all his employes after the game was a sucess with no severance pay, and changing his company into a patrimonial holding using the game's name as a way to bait investment.Bethesda employess are not victims, they deserve all this and WORSE. You are talking about the company that:• Launched one game in 2011, then a complete edition on the same generation, then a slightly modded Special edition three years later, then released it on Switch, then a VR version, and then the Anniversary edition.• Launched the bashed Fallout 4• Launched the widely hated Fallout 76• Launched the critically panned Starfield• And now, the ABSOLUTE WORST crime: They asked a chinese indie dev to make an Unreal Engine port of Oblivion, and when they saw that studio actually managed to make something MILEAGES better than they would have done, they tried to break their legs with a stealth launch, setting them up to failureNew Bethesda FUCKING SUCKS AND DESERVE EVERYTHING BAD THAT COMES TO THEM
>>743068604I think unions only work if the workers that make up the union have valuable, difficult-to-replace skills. Otherwise why would the company care what the union wants?
>>743076541Yeah, it's like some people are intentionally dense, and miss the fucking point. How can they be this one-dimensionally stupid?
>games we loveName one
>>743076369Yeah, it's only a problem when it personally affects them. NIMBY cunts.
>>743073787Hello Kamala Harris. Could you enlighten us what chud means in your native language?
>>743073787Seems like Microsoft got the message about this Woke DEI shit being unpopular, and hired a brown woman to destroy it. They're using DEI to destroy DEI.
>>743067583/v/ is too immature and soulless for any of this lmao
>>743067583lmao let them squable and fight each other, hefre's to a gorillion more layoffs
>>743067583>Abandons real Elder Scrolls and Fallout sequels for 15+ yearsYeah I hope Microslop nukes this studio. Go home Todd.
>>743068078Really? You think /v/ wouldn't naturally take solace in game devs (who have a reputation of being Woke) being fired? You really thought that? C'mon, now.
>>743067583>"Maybe we should make games for normal people, and bring value to the company in the process?">"Nah. Let's make garbage for no one, then throw a hissy fit like a child when things don't go our way."
>>743067583They no longer make the game I love thoughtbeit.
>>743067583Seems like the consensus is that gamers who hate the leftist shit are praising this as a good thing.
I don't think I've met a single ethnicity that I'd have the propensity to dislike in its entirety as much as Indians
>>743067583this is the fault of management though, they tell the slaves what to make and what to do
>>743079817And then the slaves unionize and reject their woke master's orders, right?
>>743074984Most whites are leftists so white replacement is actually good
>>743075912Why bother making a good game for money when you can just produce shitslop propanganda for blackrock squillions?
>>743068604Bad products and companies should be allowed to fail. I do not really understand the software developer entitlement to success. If you release a bad product, you should suffer the consequences of it.
>>743081014>I do not really understand the software developer entitlement to success.I believe these people are just out of touch with reality, wasting the company's money, and making games just for themselves.For example, Obsidian still wants to make “Avowed 2”; even though the game won’t make any money at all, they still refuse to give up on it.
>"show up for workers who made games we love"Like?
>>743069685there is never enough
>>743067583It like whether you want to side with imperial or stormcloak.
>>743067583>vastly overhire in the 2020s >management doesn't bother wrangling the hires, turning vast swathes of the companies into adult daycare>bubble inevitably bursts>wtf why are they firing us?! Shouldn't one set of layoffs have been enough?!These retards are lucky that shareholders would have had a fit if they'd had a chainsaw taken to them in 2024 when the bombs started dropping.The fact they're going to be replaced by jeets and the cycle will continue in about 3 years is just icing on the cake
>>743072637Things I don't like are caused by people who are being laid off. Where's the inconsistency?
>>743067583>How can these people be so shameless and self-absorbed?Why do rightoids love sucking corporate cock so much? Literally anytime workers want better treatment (like better pay, more manageable working hours, safety, protection from mass pointless firings, etc), rightoids show such utter contempt at the idea that they would dare demand to be treated fairly. Yet they rarely show this same kind of contempt for CEOs or shareholders.
>>743083776>why do people not care when those who openly hate them get fucked over by people who are shooting themselves in the foota true mystery for the ages
wtf is this?
>>743075923This never happened.
Weren't these the same people not just from Bethesda, but all across gaming who made such proud, bold, brazen statements as:>don't like it, don't buy it!>its not for you!>we make games our way!>immigrants are our future!I mean its hard to feel sympathy for them....at all. I can hate the corporations for hiring them and just being greedy, amoral assholes but they are also on the opposite side of the coin.
all this will do is give people a clearer picture of the absolute clowns that got rightfully ridden of.
>>743084440Personally I'm going to find it funny when the companies who fired them do absolutely fuck all to change that mindset in the remaining devs, meaning they'll continue shitting the bed in the exact same way.Meanwhile the fired devs will have to find a way to gravedance without mentioning they wouldn't have done anything differently.
yeah, if they were smart the first layoffs would've hit Emil and his team of dogwater writers. Starfield was technically competent but the writing was SO shoddy people began picking it apart after just an hour. If players can start eviscerating your writing after giving it two seconds of thought then you as writers have totally failed, they should've been seeing the shit writing on the wall when they were writer workshopping it in the conference room. STARBORNSHOUTS, really?
indian mommy will sack everyone at bugthesda and start from scratch
>>743083886>those who openly hate themWhy do you have such a persecution complex?
>>743067583>Everyone should get together and demand my ex takes me backAnd what then retard, even if it worked, you'd know it's coersion that got you back in, that you aren't welcome, and it'll be this horrible atmosphere where every pushback on decisions you want to make feels like fighting for your life, possibly taking your job into your hands, possibly reason to get the union back together.Just get another job, this one already decided to cut you loose, there's a 1% chance you'll get the job back, and 0% chance they want you back.
>>743083776They stopped being workers when they got canned for making absolute dog shit for a decade and the gay company that initially supported and funded it realised it cannot continue this way.
>>743085468>Pretending not to understand the argument to own the chudsMinimum wage is too much for your posts
>>743084814For all we know there could be internal memos saying "alright fucking cool it with the activism, we are going to make another Skyrim for the lowest common denominator or we are all toasty"
>>743085468And here I thought you people thought gaslighting was an evil misogynistic tactic
>>743085750>non answerCan't say I'm surprised really.
>>743085901>I'm pretending to be retarded! take me seriously!no
>>743076134And it is those white social justice fags that sold the idea to corporations that DEI sells.Fuck those white retards.
>>743068350god I wish I had a goblin gf
>>743067583jeet dev >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tranny
>>743068604it's not a chud thing, it's a mutt thing, they think that employers should be able to fuck everyone else in the ass and fleece them whenever possible or otherwise it's communism o algo
>>743067583Strikes only work if you are denying the company valuable labour.
>>743068604>workers
>>743086637I'll take a dozen white SJWs before I take a single jeet. And it's never a single jeet.Notice how the anti-white white people still mostly hire other white people. Jeets only hire jeets.
>>743067583they should just kick out everyone in Bethesda that marched out: fuck them. WASTE OF MONEY.
>>743086973>he thinks managers were fired when we know for a fact it in IDs case it was mostly programmers>asha still wants 5 layers of management in front of every decision that gets madeLMAO
>>743068604Americans have been successfully indoctrinated by their elites that improving worker conditions and having free health care is the devil and should be fought tooth and nail.
>>743067583Organized protest. Nothing will come out.
>>743087228All protests are organized, you dumbass.
>>743087162in US the population size and the cost to company profits at small-scale industry is impossible to compete in if that ever gets implemented, this is why talking to marxists is pointless they don't understand bigger the scale = more trouble to upkeep a socialist system that doesn't feed into its own pot through hoops first and focuses on generating jobs and competing industries on national scale. American system is just not build for that in mind.
I don't really get it. What's the idea they're protesting against here? >"corporations need to employ me forever and can never ever fire me"? Sounds retarded.
OK, and when that does nothing?
>>743067583>NOOOO YOU CAN'T FIRE PEOPLE FOR DOING THEIR JOB LIKE SHIT NOOOOOOOOOI am always willing to make fun of how you have no rights pertaining to jobs in the US, but COME THE FUCK ON what the fuck is this
>>743067583Timmys lost. Liberal or conservertives, don't matter. All that hate for nothing. Lost. Done. Zip.
I like that leftists aren't even subtle about trying to colonize this website anymore. Every thread now is just filled with people copy+pasting "chud, chud, chud" and other bog-standard leftist talking pointsProbably should have done a better job at keeping these "people" out of here
>>743067858I bet they are still there.
>>743085972>A bunch of rich jews get convinced that audiences are becoming more progressive and left-leaning>They push their companies hard to veer left while firing anyone who doesn't tow the line>Uh-oh, turns out audiences aren't as liberal as they thought>This makes it a good thing for John Whitedude, who tows the DEI line just hard enough not to get fired because he wants the job, to get replaced by Ranjesh Patel #692749Shut up, nigger. Not a single person who made any of the bad decisions will suffer any consequences.
>>743087360they never were subtle, are you a newfag? this had been happening since 2014 and the current janitor for /v/ that banned me over a shitpost with anti-China sentiments definitely is a chink communist who's crying about evils of nazism and how it ruined this site, somehow whilst being an eternal newfag themselves. this post was made by said janitor, heads up.
put the fries in the bag
>>743087330you are a genocide away from being in your rightful place dravidian faggot. (six feet under or scattered as ashes to the sky.):>Jews, Muslims, Jeets.that's the trio that needs to be genocided first from any sort of influence position.
>>743087272>uhm actually worker's rights would bankrupt the US - think of all the poor US companies like Ford, GM and GoogleFirst of all, that's simply not true. Secondly, if the success of the American business model hinges on exploiting their workers, it doesn't deserve to be successful.>b-but muh communismNigger, the very fact you get two days off during the week is a result of unions fighting for your rights. If you disagree, I'm sure you would gladly work the entire week.
I'm not necessarily against organised action to ensure companies aren't exploiting workers but that's a massively different situation to "we're cutting our workforce because it's not viable any more". If you're trying to replace workers with cheaper ones, completely fair. One of the biggest issues about unions is that the worst types of people are proponents of them.
>>743068604You sound like a tranny bleating for rights. Workers have rights and protections. This union wants to uno reverse their firings when they don't control the company. They want priority in reassignment to open positions in msft/actiblizz for union members. Do non union workers not have the rights to transfer to those positions? The union wants their laid off members to be first to be rehired. Do non union workers not have the rights to be rehired? It's never about rights with unions, it's power.
>>743087638>worker's rights.go fuck yourself AI bot bitch and go kill yourself faggot for talking like one, workers only have obligations to work and do what's stated on the work contract: fuck you.
>>743087689You are cattle.
>>743087685>Non union workersH1B1 jeets, you meanOnly Americans are entitled to American jobs
>>743087360we will keep reminding you that you are a horrible person and that you need to become a decent human being and stop being a nazi incel until morale improves, chuddy :)
>>743087638>on exploiting their workersYou guys needs to start arguing more honestly and stop lying whenever you spout your script>Nigger, the very fact you get two days off during the week is a result of unions fighting for your rights.No, it wasn't. It was pioneered by Ford. If you're going to lie about something so obvious, there's no reason for anyone else in this thread to waste any more time talking to you
>>743087360You can leave anytime, faggot.
>>743087719The jeets will replace both the union and non-union workers let go.
>>743087725Every single "woke" person I've talked to hasn't even been subtle about being a terrible person. It's a weird social camouflage, in line with how nearly every "male feminist" is just a predator or desperate to get laid
>>743087713you are the one moaning about things you don't understand, literal goyim.
>>743087742> was pioneered by FordTo appease unions. Please read up on a topic before spouting nonsense
>>743087767Why would I listen to anything a "person" like you suggests?
>>743087807just like Asmongold.
>>743087821Unlike you, I am employed.
>>743087836No, it wasn't.
>>743087903I accept your concession.
>>743087920That's not how that phrase works. What third world country are you from?
>>743087882unlike you I am not a subhuman mutt minimum wagie.
>>743087849Breathe air then :^)
>>743067583>And now that Microsoft has laid off staff at Bethesda, they actually feel wronged?Bethesda as in todd's bethesda?If so it really makes OP not that much of a corporate bootlicker. I mean genuinely, the fucking audacity of troglodytes who made saarfield "unionize" first when their assess directly felt threatened when microcock axed idSoftware. And most clownish of all is every layoff microdick EVER did even before the pajeetcalypse was all to bail bethesda out out of flop shitfield was.
>>743087981No, you live off your poor mom's handouts, you living failure.
>>743087983Are you retarded?
>>743088023actually leeching like a proper neet from the government since they would have me paying for niggers like you otherwise in my cuntry. I would work if the taxes didn't go to rapists and migrants who wage genocide on European populations. pic related is what you want out of the country: bunch of scum regardless where they go to and run child rape gangs.
>>743088050You will never get your foreskin back.
>>743088136There's no way any government is giving you enough money to live on solely through welfare unless you're still living with your folks and have no expenses
>>743088136>Immigrants are subhuman because they are lazy, stupid and leech off the government.>Me being stupid and lazy and leeching off the government is completely different though.Man, that's some lethal cope.
>>743088190free housing just like the rapefugees, I know, the Nordic system is wild bro. we just need to figure out how to get rid of these scumbags in our government feeding these rats and deport both of them (they obviously do not belong in our countries) and then we can party like its 1933-35. you see we can rent at a cheap spot that's under-developed and not care much about that rat race shit and still have middle-class lifestyle. jealous?
>>743088149I'm not Jewish, Arabian or American so I wasn't circumcised
>>743088247Why should I do something the migrants aren't forced to do? I don't see the requirement for virtue placed on natives when the migrants take advantage of it: its better to play dirty if your opponents also are.
>>743087156>shitty copeLmao indeed
>>743088343There is so much to unpack from your post. You sound genuinely insane and society benefits from you not partaking in it.
>>743087371Meister got laid off
>>743088247>>Me being stupid and lazy and leeching off the government is completely different though.Nigger, if you pay taxes, you're literally funding your own genocide by default. Your argument will ONLY hold if we're talking tax evasion. Otherwise you're literally a cuckold slave.
>>743067583The recent hires are probably just categoricaly incompetent and the senior staff treated their office like a social club and did fuck all. This has been a long time coming
>>743088416Society thinks its beneficial to hire foreigners and undercut native people's profitability in working conditions and outsourcing our jobs to niggers and chinese. you think there's any benefit to that to the native person to partake? work slave, work. you are proving yourself to be a literal goyim.
>>743067583strikes work when the company is doing well and you want a bigger share of that profit. then you refusing to work means much more lost profit than simply paying you a bit more would.they don't work when the company/division is already going tits up and looking to downsize. then all you're doing is give management a good idea whom to axe next, kek
>>743067583>>743067835>>743067858>>743067873This will end up like that union of cartoon artists, with nothing done but a lot of smoke online.You will never be a real worker like the tradies in a construction site, i used to work my ass under the sun with them so i know what kind of people they are. And they are not a bunch of tranny white collars for hire sitting their asses in a chair exposed to no health risks whatsoever.
>>743072637Kill this nigger
>>743074016most people are retarded, and when their retardation catches up to them, they'll claim that everyone but them is at fault. their boss is evil, the company greedy, the system is broken, blablathe only one definitely not at fault is them, despite living well above their means for ages
>>743067873>fansOh so now you do need fans lmao? Didn't feel like you needed us when you made Avowed
>>743088524I don't think they realise that they don't have any leverage
>>743087725who raped you?
>>743072405>we were just following ordersNo, you hang too.
>>743072957Don't forget gypsies, anon.
>>743088647that seems to be a problem a lot of people suffer from nowadays.they aggressively state their demands without ever really thinking about if they have any leverage to push these demands through.we had one cunt like that at work - she was basically entirely useless, but initially, she flew a bit under the radar. we knew she wasn't good for anything so we only assigned her the grunt work and she could have coasted on basically zero relevant work done for decades if only she had known how to shut the fuck up.instead, she really got it into her head that she needs to challenge "injustice" wherever she sees it and just be a general pain in the ass towards everyone after three years or so.after the second time she rudely interrupted our boss during a meeting (with clients present) to tell him that his plans were not considerate enough of people with disabilities, she got to pack her shit up and fuck off, and of course, that was all because everyone working there was ontologically evil. couldn't have been due to her being both useless, and being too stupid to know when to shut the fuck up.
>>743088773you don't need to count Indians twice.
>>743086651>mutts pro-union for decades, blue collar massive influence over politics even after the mob gets pushed out of this racket in most areas>unions become more and more like mafia>operate literal press gangs in airports, bully and oppress non-union workers>more and more workers start staying non-union whenever they can because of this shit>teachers unions especially go full retard and start ruining grade-school education even worse than common core would later>mutts see all this going on and likewise start to turn anti-union>today>some yurocuck who thinks he knows murrica thanks to the BBC expresses his Informed British Person opinion of what mutts think and whyYeah, nah, miss me with that, oy soi boi.
>>743088334Good morning to you then, saar.
>>743072928Calling out hypocrisy is an argument, not a diversion. If you only appear to believe something half the time, we don't need to lend any value to your opinions about it.
>>743075659kek your own image says that it's a self-reported and not an actual scientific survey
>show up for workers who make the games we loveWhich ones? As far as I know, none of them made Morrowind
>>743083776Most of the far right are unemployed.
>>743068604unions are capable of good things, even if in practice they're often just taking my money and doing nothing of noteI still want the industry to burn though
>>743089035Yes you do because ideas exist independently. >Calling out hypocrisy is an argumentNo it isn't. An argument is an exchange of ideas based on established premises. Saying 'you are a hypocrite' is a statement.
>>743089074Because you get cancelled by the far left (canary mission/antifa/adl aipac, haredi and chabadi lobbyist groups); just like how you get cancelled from college/university if you hold right wing views that are not accepted. false observation -> conclusion.
>>743067583You know who didn’t get laid off? The janitor
Can you think of one thing that improved over the last 10 years under capitalism?
>>743067583>>743067835>>743067858>>743067873>>743067885>>743067917So you’re not allowed to be upset that the people you’ve worked with for over a decade got cut so your Pajeeta CEO can replace them all with H1B Indians, because that’s what this is actually about. The aren’t targeting the woke and DEI employees specifically, they’re replacing everyone so they can outsource the work to Indians, and move all their games to UE5 so they can pump out mass produced slop for their shareholders. If it was really an issue about quality, 343 would’ve been shut down ages ago. The union is a good idea so they don’t all he replaced by Poo in the Loos, or get raped by Microsoft whenever they feel like it.
>>743087015chink + jeet is the ultimate performance combo with a white guy giving commands. mentally ill rainbow caste should fuck off to McDonald's.
>>743089064Todd is still there.
>>743075548But everyone uses it nowadays, so they clearly do care, you retard.
>/v/ celebrating white devs losing their jobs like shwarma and pajella replace them with H1B indiansshitskins telling me they were woke and deserve to be fired can suck my assholethis board is a brown third world shithole
>>743087272If people have less costs to worry about and more money to spend that money circulates keeping the economy healthy.
>>743089265>performance combo.if you mean an AI expert jeet who pushes feminist garbage and doesn't double-check the results or do any proper work, lmao.
>>743069060I'd normally agree regarding failing companies but this pajeeta ripping a whole functional company in half (particularly actual talent too, not just checkmark hires and HR) who themselves purchased half the western industry sorta merits the reaction. Whether or not some of the devs happen to be walled garden sissies doesn't really justify Microsoft pulling the biggest EA-style execution in the medium.
>>743079720try asking a euro about gypsies
>>743067583This woke shit and billion dollar companies being taken over by foreigners is straight out of a saboteurs handbook The gullible workers have no one but themselves to blame though
>>743089265If you want unoptimized garbage.
>>743089338wrong, it just doesn't work like that.
>>743089382they are the same species they min-maxed the prostitute/pimp, musician/gambler and thief/robber archetypes.
>>743089408Yes it does. It's like a healthy circulatory system. Little to no plaque lining the blood vessels allows the blood to flow just fine, but when burdensome costs start restricting that flow stress on the system increases.
>>743068694You're right, I do. Slowly but surely, it looks like i'm getting my way.
>>743089373Not even half. 75% of id’s main studio in Texas is gone, with even more layoffs happening in their support studios as well. They’re effectively crippled id into a support studio, and it’s incredibly unlikely they’ll make games again.
>>743089445>"Gypsy" is an umbrella term most commonly used to refer to the Romani people (or Roma), a distinct ethnic group that migrated from northern India to Europe over a millennium agoThanks, I learned something today and now I can be more accurately racist.
>>743089332But Anon, she only fired all the women and DEI hires! Gaming is saved!
>>743069539Indians are purpose-built to destroy the west and you cannot convince me otherwise>massive kissasses to get into the good graces of the boomers but hates them, scams them, and schemes against them and their descendants>brown and therefore good according to white liberals but extremely racist and uses liberal outgroup bias against them>massive ego that allows them to commit psychological warfare against women, even going so far as to turn #MeToo back on them>uses diploma mills to appear as the most meritocratic option, relies solely on nepotism when they get into power>uses freedom of religion to build giant trash statues of their gods and dump them into the environmentThey piss everyone off but then neocons favor them because of the asskissing, their faked credentials, and their unwarranted confidence and liberals favor them because they're brown and they don't think borders should exist any way
>>743067583>Hallo sars at Bethesday>This microsoft>Listen sars, big trouble from up top>You need to either make more money>Or sars, and I say this very serious>You need to hire some people go>Oh okay sar, you are firing 30% of your staff rather than making a game people want to play?>Very well sar, good luck.
>>743089326>Lots of people uses it>That means it's goodWrong
is modern game dev studio just a daycare center for manchildren at this point? its insane how entitled and spoiled they act. like its their god given right to have high paying jobs without producing nothing of value
>>743089234lol good riddance
>>743085694Never happened. These faggotrons live only to suck tranny nigger dick at this point in history. ES 6 is either so unfinished they can't even get another teaser together or so full of outdated political message shit the suits think it would get them shot at.
>>743089571I never said it was good, dumbass. Learn how to read.
>>743069539>don't you think these pajeets are even worse than these people who want to open borders to everyone including all 2 billion pajeets ASAP?no, they are just as bad. in fact traitors may be worse than enemies. SJWs are traitors because they have an inferiority complex they project onto the community they grew up in. they start identifying with everything that is different from that community, whether it's brown people or blue hair. they chase after everything different because they are fundamentally running away from their own core identity, who they really are. when an SJW is hired into a game development studio the first thing he wants to do is change everything so it's less like the games he grew up with. he no longer identifies as a normal person, so he no longer wants to make games for normal people either. there is absolutely zero value these damaged individuals can provide the rest of us with. they should all be unemployed until something clicks and they get over their weird xenophilia etc. else they should just remain unemployed. if you let them "contribute" in society they just go out of their way to fuck everything up for normal people. they cannot help themselves but do this every single time.it's actually better to pay a streetshitter across the globe LESS MONEY than to pay a leftist for actively fucking up every game he is supposed to make for normal people, while paying him a handsome salary in california.
>>743089332A traitor is worse than an enemy. White devs with jobs at big studios were happy to cheer on diversity. They deserve this.
>>743089234they can be upset, but it's a misery of their own making. their retarded ideology turned the company into a shithole that is an easy target for these pajeet scams.that's why the manager class loves diversity so much, because it means the workforce is fragmented and easily exploited. their strikes will amount of nothing because they put themselves into a basically indefensible position long ago, through their own actions.everything that follows now is just the consequence of it.
>>743089516just call them negroes when in Italy or southern Europe, our niggers are different.
>>743067835How is no one calling out this obvious shill. Kill yourself you fucking faggot
>>743067583>made saarfieldhonestly they should just have fired them all and closed the studio, no point in keeping any of these retards around.
>>743089580What was that? I can’t hear you over all the corporate bootlicking.
>>743068604I'm not mad at unions. I just think people should consider if they actually have any leverage, and if their demands are reasonable.Most unions nowadays are barely disguised political entities that just screech incoherently and threaten to demand economic damage unless their already overpaid asses get another absurd raise.That's how you end with shit like what VW is doing in Germany right now.
>>743089675And what exactly did id do to achieve that?
>>743076134No fucking suit ever thought a black female protag would make them money.
>>743068164So workers should all be poor like you are? Kill yourself jeet
>>743089795there are already enough examples of the clown shit they pulled over the years in this thread.just scroll over it >>743067835>>743067858>>743067885and so on and so forth.they adopted a retarded, corrosive company culture and now they are faced with the long term consequences of it.
>>743067835Previous xbox management was literally just letting studios do whatever, it was charity is all but the name.
>>743089804Microsoft did. They make it mandatory for the women in their games to not be sexualized, and to champion diversity. Firing the devs won’t change that when the corpos at the top are the actual problem.
>>743089234They shouldn't have made Starfield.
>>743089865I said id, you mongoloid. Can you even read?
>>743067583The goyim are revolting!
>>743067885Ugly pedestrians could add a good layer of realism but you also have to include good looking ones
>>743068604Mediocre affirmative action hires that lack all visual and written creativity should not be named “worker, its insulting to the term and automatically demeans the real talent through association.
>>743089234So these people are against diversity and immigration, right? They're not actively participating in the Fucking Hates White People movement while somehow expecting to be immune themselves?
>>743068604They worship Indians.
>>743069521We get that your a retard but op and the slew of first posts were defending the corporation you retarded cuck
>>743067583>>743067835Bethesda was cooked long ago.They did this to themselves.
>>743090049It’s mandated by Microsoft you fucking moron. They have no choice in the matter. Getting rid of them will make no difference, other than making the games worse because they’re hiring H1B immigrants instead.
>heres 50% of our output in a decade
>>743089234Theres two things to this situation I've noticed. First of all /v/ is like that one Star Wars quote of "thinking in absolutes." Everything needs to be categorized in black and white, to make it more digestible. Us vs. them, right and left, good and bad. Its like imagine trying to explain to a mentally stunted child that theres more to life than watching Disney VHS tapes or quoting Sonic the Hedgehog. Secondly with that in mind, the nuance of the situation is simply that while people hate corporations all the people laid off were undone by the same company that they routinely lauded as a "family" and a pillar of their own little communities. And they had zero issues with ruining gaming while doing it and championing the rights of foreign invaders who would kill them just for dressing differently. So yes while I do hate the jeetess and her cabal of orcs the people who made that possible are getting their ironic just desserts. Which again is one corporations and elites want, useful golems to do their work. Trump and other cronies would gladly let all of india in if it meant saving money.
>>743090017So we should just let them hire Indians and have them make games exclusively in UE5 from now on?
>>743090142looks like cute little mobile game, wh->50% output>decadeoh
>>743089804Then the games wouldn't have been made. Corporations exist to make money. If they do it then it's because they think it'll make money.
>>743067583>show up for workers who make the games we love...So they are saying no one should show up?>>743067858lmao
>>743067583What are they gonna do not make the game they are not making in protest. if elder scrolls 6 is any form touching creation engine is better off never coming out. not like bethesda has put anything worth while out in a almost two decades and even what has come out has now relied on modding to fix fundmental issues with their engine they keep using and basic gameplay features
>>743085468says the inquisitor to the peasant who forgot to cross himself once entering the cathedral
>>743074176>3 snorlax, just with different statsThe fuck is this shitty romhack.
>>743089813Bethesda employees should eat shit and die if they won't produce something
>>743090168Corporate shifting blame onto employees, got it.
>>743090205nta but what is the source of that claim? I'd be curious to see who/how it got found out.
>>743090132Then what's the problem?
>>743067917>Rockville, MarylandI always lol at the fact that Bethesda, Maryland is far too expensive to set up an office in so they're actually located in the cheaper suburb next door.
>>743089234>The aren’t targeting the woke and DEI employees specifically>they’re replacing everyone Nonsense, everyone in there is a wokeshit or their DEI pet. HR filter you out immediately if they think you are even 0.1% normal.
>>743090168They had no choice in the matter. Microsoft has mandates where they have to support that stuff, and the nails that stick out get hammered down. None of this has anything to do with that, it’s purely just fucking over their employees so they can make more money. If this was about getting rid of woke devs who pump out low quality games, don’t you think 343 would be the first to go? How come they never got affected by the lay offs?
>>743067583Where has the union been before the layoffs?
>>743090393The problem is that games are going to get worse.
>>743087015>Notice how the anti-white white people still mostly hire other white peopleThey absolutely only hire other wokies.
>>743086651Without a union, there is only one cock in my ass. This is preferable to two.
>>743090490It is not possible for the games to get worse than Starfield. If they make anything like it again I will simply ignore it.
>>743090512Who are white.
>>743090168>Everything needs to be categorized in black and white, to make it more digestible.Nigga the industry is fucking collapsing and taken over by street shitters after having been destroyed by woke and other trannies.The house is on fire during an earthquake, it's not the time to talk about nuances like determining if the paint is flaking or peeling.
>>743090364Microsoft just acquired 5000 H-1B Visas, and shortly afterwards, they started laying off thousands of their employees, including people who worked under Xbox Game Studios. It’s not hard to put 2 and 2 together to make 4, because this is an increasingly common practice in a lot of tech related companies.
>>743090564You’d think so, but you haven’t seen anything yet.
>>743067583While I will never side with a corporation over anyone, Bethesda is being retarded right now. Microsoft has a long history of crushing unionized workers who get too uppity. They really have no leverage right now. ES6 is years out and probably has almost nothing tangible completed. Starfield was no the success they wanted and Asha has already discarded it as a franchise going forward. They just killed ESO and F76 might not be far behind. They would have zero issue firing 50% of the studio tomorrow and filling it with jeets to vibe code ES6.
>>743087638>Secondly, if the success of the American business model hinges on exploiting their workers, it doesn't deserve to be successful.Yeah, we should just offshore the manufacturing to places where they have to put nets in the stairwells to stop people from yeeting themselves to their deaths. Get fucked nigger, best of bad options isn't bad solely because it isn't your ideal.
>>743090017>muh affirmative action>muh real talentUnironically fuck off you trilobite. Corpos don't give a fuck about any of that shit. Which is why they're exporting out work to the cheapest bidder. Please do not tell us you believe in that meritocracy bullshit. Please do not tell us you think real talent matters in a time where companies are actively scrapping information from workers to train A.I. so they can justify replacing them.
>>743090717How many people would actually buy it if that happened? Microsoft is losing a lot of good will at this point, and firing more people to replace them with Indian AI coders isn’t going to fix that, or convince them to buy more of their games.
>>743067583A march ? But we're in July
>>743090860Tons of people will just buy they game because it says Elder Scrolls on the title and the reputation it has. The game after that however, that's a different story.
>>743067858Meister is actual woman and worked in bethesda since morrowind, she shouldnt be grouped with those two
>>743090930Nobody even cares about TES anymore. The last one to come out was the Oblivion remaster, and it was shit.
>>743076979>>743073787ESG is not being rolled back, it's being reformulated according to Larry Fink. I haven't dug enough to see what's been changed since Trump got re-elected though.
>>743089135>thing is bad when A does it>thing is not bad when B does itThese are not independent.
>>743090562A very Russian approach.
>>743067583>make Elder Scrolls6 for meThey should cancel it so the series ends on a good non-woke note.
I, for one, am enjoying this implosion.
>>743090678So the source is fox news then? I suppose it's better than just reddit.Also microjeet has had thousands of indians working for them for years now, how do you know they are going to be working on xbox and not just in microsoft in general?Also how do you know these are not just extensions for existing pajeets? Those visas need to be extended every few years by re-acquiring them.
>>743089234Nobody is terribly upset when the dead weight gets tossed overboard except the ballast which somehow got overlooked this time.
>>743067583>management fuck around and find out>the staff bears the consequences>v thinks this is okay
>>743091456Do you even know who got laid off, or are you just assuming?
>>743091413>FoxAre you actually retarded? Scratch that, you clear are given your obnoxious Reddit spacing.
>>743089373>functional companyBy what metric are you claiming bethesda was functional?
>>743091413seems like only few hundred are new, rest are recurring. They also had 6000 last year.
>>743091618>clearlyIf it isn’t obvious, I’m a bit annoyed.
>>743067835Well they clearly fired the wrong people if HR is still around.
>>743091694>he actually went and lookedLmao what a seething retard
>>743089516Always remember that Gypsy was an attempt to claim the heritage of the ancient Egyptians just like Romani and Roma are the same for ancient Rome.
>>743067583and Todd Howard will not be joining those union march lol get fuck you of all people has been betrayed by Todd Howard lol
>>743068604They think anything left of shooting homeless people is Communism. They think if heckin' based snd redpilled ekon musk can become a trillionaire then so can anyone and if you're financially struggling you deserve to die.
>>743067583>"show up for workers who MAKE the games we love"Those games are still going to be there, they already MADE them, almost two decades ago. If they were MAKING games, they wouldn't be getting laid off.
>>743067583Unions are good for the members.Horrible for the customer.
>>743089373What has Bethesda done in the last 10 years?
>>743090132>I am just a helpless goyslave who works fulltime creating anti-white propaganda, please let me keep my job so I can continue to fuck you over while avoiding the consequences of my own actionsLiterally just refuse. We had tards pushing diversity shit and nobody participated and it died. There's a "DEIJ committee" on slack that hasn't updated in a year and half the people listed as on the committee don't even work here anymore.Microsoft execs will not show up at your house with a gun and threaten to shoot your family unless you model an ugly brown woman. Bethesda knelt to the DEI cult and they deserve the consequences.
>>743089795They turned their decent chance at bringing Doom out of the past into a rhythm game, then changed their minds and went with a Simon Says for the last outing. What id did was suck and it sucks to suck. Maybe it would have been okay for them a decade ago but this is not the environment for a game dev to fuck up consistently.
>>743090449Because 343 is the Halo people. They will only go after the ones who are truly useless to their brand and name.
>>743068604>workers should have rights and protectionIndeed.And unions are the greatest enemy of that.>sourceI live in France, an Union paradise.Unions are to worker's rights what jewrnalists are to truth and integrity.
>>743091547Right back atcha.
>>743092486Have you seen Infinite's player count? Halo is dead. The only people who think it's relevant are mentally stuck in the 00s. Would not be surprised if it gets hit with layoffs.
>>743067835This is how you know Besthesda has been captured by women and fags.
>>743069539They are in the same ballpark. Is one worse? Yes.Is it worse *enough* for me to bother helping the other? Fuck no.The diarrhea changed color and smell a bit more. If I'm going to fight it would be to get rid of the problem entirely, not to get the old one back.
>>743092390They didn't kneel they're true believers all the way.
>>743069968It was never going to happen anyway, as long as Todd had a say in it.
>>743069968Now it will be The Elder Saars VI.
>>743072637>all the shitty studios that are making garbage I don't like are getting cannedHip, hip - hurray!
>>743092761*2010speople stuck in the 2000s never accepted 343's garbage and are well aware that it all underperformed, especially Infinite.the people who still pretend that 343 Halo is real Halo, and that Infinite was worth playing and not a huge flop, are zoomers and hyper-consooming late millennials who unironically liked the CODification of Halo 4 and 5. they are the same mouthbreathers who always say it was "inevitable" that Halo would add COD features like sprint and ADS. they believe that gameplay can be "dated" and every game has to conform to the trends of the time.
>>743071689>64235 gorillion indians goodified with this shot>poojetas have rebuilt the ranks to max pop before the first rock finish falling back to Earth
>>743072637Unironically, yes.If you livelihoods is to make garbage for the sole purpose of pissing me off, I will be happy when you lose it.Action have consequences and all of that.
>>743068604unions are just another layer of bureaucracy between you and your money
>>743073787>>cute as a buttonMutts are so used to goblina and others "la creatura", your standards in girls are now fucking lower than England's.10/10 in muttland.
>>743094072If you support unions without being in one you are working against your own best interest.
>>743074984Traitors getting stabbed by the ones they opened the gates for is a positive, yes.Would have been even better if *we* stabbed them *before* they opened the gates, but that ship as sailed.
>>743067583They'll really do anything but work on ES6.
>>743089234These leftists faggots would replace every one of you with a brown in 0.5 seconds lmao. Both sides suck here but at least Microsoft has some coherent reasons behind their actions (they want Xbox to stop hemorrhaging money) and enter press statement they put out doesn't run the risk of some how spontaneously transmitting AIDs via sight alone
>>743067583>>743067835They deserve it for what they did to Fallout fuck em.
>>743072168because the latter were all steel workers or coal miners or whatever who were drunk half the time and had T levels literally hundreds of time higher than the average modern male,
>>743070428>>743070614>>743068604Being a game dev is completely different than working a blue collar job like farming, mining, welding, etc. White-collar, college-educated people unionizing is a larp.
>>743093645So now the game is taking place in Black Marsh?
