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tranny mechanic
Im getting into +R, is there a proper way of teching? Im getting scammed by stick wagglan moves like Ky 6H and I cant recover from it early enough to block so I just keep eating 6H. I play on pad and I feel like Im not doing it right
>>743076024Anybody want to play blazblue
>>743076190I think it's just left and right? I'm not sure if you need to mash attack buttons or other directions like in 3s or not, I'd say practice it in training mode a bit to get a feel for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ntn-0cm5echttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMFucoFEUoAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMItKJ_SNf8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zQLXIugWbAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I8cyXNI7kchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEu5ox_QHnYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06ua6CRMluYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2YAZSr-XI4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17P0rkYgb4Ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV8HpE_cEAYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_T4gj27gpc
>>743076024Xrd YRCs were a decent idea and a good alternative to FRCs but very clearly poorly thought outStrive RCs is genuinely a fantastic system and it always goes underrated as people wanna just label the whole thing as casualized and be done with it
Take these Gecko CodesC20CB518 0000000383F8002C 801F0668901F2354 8001000C60000000 00000000C20CB170 0000000681DF2354 55C0056B40820010 55C0052940820010 4800001438000000 4800001038000001 48000008801F2340 00000000C20CBBC0 0000000389FD06BE 2C0F000440800008 4E8000207C0802A6 00000000C20CB4E0 000000032C040001 408200084E800020 7C0802A660000000 000000000406B620 60000000With these, Melee gets proper controls and gameplay (No Tapjump, Dedicated Full and Shorthop buttons, Automatic L-Cancels)
>>743076367yrc was a necessary evil for a game with delay netcode. people forget how unplayable +r netplay was before the patch
>>743076520>Automatic L-Cancelswhat why
is getting fireball when you try to dp a problem for anyone else in strive? usually it feels like the other way around in these games...
>>743076024>SO ELEGANT!Or still Romantic in jap dub
>>743076367Strive romans are cool, I just think the screen freeze should be maybe half as long as it is to make people work for it a bit more.
>>743076746The same reason every platform fighter that takes themselves seriously doesn't have them and why most Smash mods add the ability to remove them even when keeping the rest of the balance the same: they're pointless, gay, and the game doesn't suffer a status quo shift because it was such a nothing addition that didn't actually limit anything.
>>743076894True. The shockwave launch already does enough to grease the wheels of extending a combo.
>>743076190Teching throws in +R is not the point. Due to throw protection, the enemy must wait +5 frames after hitstun, +4 frames after blockstun, or +8 frames on wakeup to be able to throw you. These are fast numbers, so the real point is you mashing throw while blocking to throw the opponent, or you not doing that due to mental stack, and thus letting the opponent throw you. Bottom line is: if the opponent throws you, you had the chance to throw them first.As far as getting out of stagger, a kind anon shed some light onto this for me. You want to mash two buttons while holding a third, while blocking. Mashing the two buttons gets you out of stagger faster, while holding a button and blocking will immediately make you FD once you are out of stagger. AFAIK, moving the directional buttons does nothin
>>743077234Stagger mash recover in fighting games can suck the air out of my asshole, fill a dozen balloons with it, and then firebomb a hospital for orphans with them
>>743076024>BAROQUE!
Is there ANY video/guide that helped you get better at fighting games in general? I feel like they're either too basic or snake oil.t. geneless
>>743076746because there's no reason to never do one except messing one up on timingit's like how a 1f link on a combo, why wouldn't you want that damage, there's no strategic reason why you wouldn't do it other than your execution sucksexecution should play a role in a fighting game, but it should also play into your strategy and not just be a needless obstacle for an extra benefit with no stake at hand for doing onewhere in your game is there a deciding factor where someone succeeded in doing an l-cancel only for it to be the wrong thing to do at the time causing the person to be punished or lose the advantage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_WmgY4YNHY
>>743077318uhhhhhhhhhh i mean the cliff notes of how to get better at fighting games is this1) Actively watch your opponent, not yourself, because he's doing the same to you. Pair this with the fact that your moves are designed to be interrupted, so no throwing big moves out of nowhere like an action game. They will punish you2) Know that you're constantly working towards an advantage state for your character, and this is more important than learning combos. You need to be able to get hits first to get combos going, so pay more attention to how to break their guard, how to throw them, and if you do get a hit, get the knockdown to set up your advantage further.3) Breaking out of block is all about speed. Do your best to identify the moves that have the most recovery when you're blocking, and throw out a quick jab when you do. Do not go for big moves, and be patient enough to spot them if you don't want to look online for info. Once you play a lot, it's not hard to start recognizing what kind of moves you're likely meant to punish if you block them.4) If you don't care about incremental improvements, or if you're discouraged by losing, then the genre might just not be for you and that's alright. The people who go really far are the ones who actively want to identify what they specifically did wrong, improve it, and then move onto their next weak spot until they collectively improve. This is especially important because that "next weak spot" might be such a critical failure that you go back to losing 7/10 matches, so you need a level head the entire timehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmvxkkt3SKM
>>743077318https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJwPOefYnoI
Having fun in Rivals 2
The hardest part of blazblue for me is getting used to jump ins not being real
>>743077318machaboo's stuff helped me the most https://www.reddit.com/r/Guiltygear/comments/4jjz2a/theory_of_improving_in_fighting_games/https://web.archive.org/web/20181008221013/http://guiltygearsweden.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/ggfundamentals-machabooshinjin.pdf2nd to that i think watching aris' streams where he'd lab characters and even just how he approached doing combos helped a lot.i think really the key is not to worry too much about tech or wiki combos or being optimal. pokes & punishes are what wins games
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>>743077234>directionals do nothingWtf ok now thats misleading>Hold 1 button while mashing 2 othersWonder if I can mash with a macro'd button for this
>>743077318only guide you needhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGh4ZU4H5Hk
>>743077714I'd like to add the fundamentals of neutral, which is space controlBoth players are in a state that is neither advantageous or disadvantageous. You generally have three options you use interchangeably, control the space in front of you by doing things that make that space unsafe (fireballs, throwing out buttons, etc) which will keep the opponent and hurt them (possibly converting into a combo) unless they approach the correct way wayapproach in a way that avoids your opponent's space control by taking an angle that they do not expect with the right timing and then start your offense if you succeedfeign an approach to draw out a reaction from your opponent that you can take advantage of, you baited an angle of attack to which they reacted by trying to control that space but your feint makes them whiff, you have now created an opening for you to being your offense
>>743077587>it's like how a 1f link on a combo1F links are usually justified by being exceedingly hard, requiring a lot of game awareness to access, and is a very risky but hype way to extend existing damage.L-Cancels are instead tacked onto very standard moves, is meant to just temper aggressive aerial pressure, and is something really anyone can do, with its only "difficulty" being that it's a tedious thing thrown to add an extra point of failure to high APM characters. It's not something to accomplish, it's something to fuckup.The closer point of comparison would maybe be FRCs, specifically with characters like Robo-Ky that needs you to consistently hit the 4F window on 5H in order to really make the character viable. Ironically, even though there's a lot of better arguments for FRC being kept in the game (limited to only specific moves and specials, plays richly into the rest of the meter systems, gets really interesting with RK because of his relationship with meter, etc.), the argument for whether FRCs should be kept is a lot more nuanced and level-headed on both sides than the arguments against removing L-Cancels, even though there's a very palpable example of Xrd getting shonky by expanding RCs way too much. But then again it's not like dedicated Smash players are all that mature, nor do they play a lot of fighting games in general to flesh out their perspective on these issues.
>>743076024so guys i boughted this game but now that i've checked it has only 2k people playing on steam i'm kinda worried, i don't wanna get absolutely shat on, is there still a casual playerbase left for me?
gg hasn't said romantic for rc in a long ass time
>>743078238Even a 200 population game like blazblue before the announcement had beginners, you'll be fucking fine with 2000
>>743078246We can say it though
>>743076367i genuinely think strive's rc is boring as fuck but that could just be the combo system in general.
>>743078063OH FUCK WAIT I did some testing and its the opposite. Moving the directional buttons gets you out of stagger faster, not the attack buttons (tested this with Venom 5HS on Sol, him recovering after 54 frames naturally, then 47 when I mashed 2/6)I think the anon who told me that got it mixed up with Xrd? I saw a video on staggers for XRD and said the same thing anon told me, but what tipped me off, besides my testing, was that the pic on dustloop for staggers was using XRD as an example. But it had a button to recover from stagger, while in +R it has a moving stick for you to mash.
>>743078271man i wish fighting games wouldn't be so niche. why the fuck don't normies get it? there's nothing like the joy and hatred fighting games can get you, there is nothing like a pure 1v1 like this. the appeal is there the style is there the fun is there plenty of games have casualized it so then what the fuck is the problem?
>>743076746l-cancels are like the one mechanic that just has no reason for it's existence, there is never a reason to not l-cancel and they are not hard enough to justify them as an execution check. the game would play no difference if every character just had their frames changed to be l-cancel equivalent
>>743078353>why the fuck don't normies get it?https://files.catbox.moe/yfhlxj.mp4
>>743078271doa 5 has like 40 players on a good day and about half the people i fight do not know how to play the game
>>743078353Honestly, it's hard for people to really get in the mindset of treating it like a fight and their opponent as actually having intelligence. When a normalfag plays fighting games, they play it like it's Devil May Cry or something, which honestly isn't hard to see why once you think about it. However, it really limits how they can play because they're too self-focused to interact with shit in the way that would actually overcome and beat their opponent.
>>743078353Because they're legitimately too hard if other normies don't play them.
>>743078063also my bad for not just going to the dustloop page for +R, I just assumed it was just button mashing. I never really bothered to learn about it but at least I know now
>>743078440Nothing wrong with not wanting to do all the boring shit involved with Basketball. Hence why said normies aren't playing Basketball.
>>743078238I couldn't tell you about strive but I learned fighting games when street fighter v was bouncing around 2-3k players. It helps being in or near a large city but it's very possible, just "enjoy the journey" since it might take a while for everything to click, especially if you chose a weirdo to main. >>743078353normies don't play anything that's not popular because they are normies
>>743078528>Hence why said normies aren't playing Basketballbro?
>>743078464If they're playing DoA chances are they are not playing it because of the fighting.
>>743078531>normies don't play anything that's not popular because they are normiesThis is one of the ways you can really tell that /v/ is filled with twitter tourists these days, as we get 5 billion steam charts threads or sales numbers and all this other bullshit that they use to say a game is inherently not worth playing and that you should stop talking about it.Or why in particular, fighting games and AFPS games have been hit with>there's only 200 CCU so you're all liars and nobody plays these they're trashquite a lot more recently despite the fact that I regularly play with anons in these threads for the former and I've been a thread server host quite a few times for the latter
I like COTW, and I wish more people have played it.Same goes for KOF XV and SamSho.Honestly? I just wish more people have played SNK games overall...
>>743078353because fighting games used to be filed in the same mental cabinet as beat-em-ups: novelties you played around on with friends without having to take too seriously, and sales/online discussion proved this.but once capcom and namco shifted to a heavy esports push, that led the entire genre down the online multiplayer rabbithole that turns casuals off.
>>743078686now this is revisionist history
>>743076024I'm new to Uni2. Is kaguya a fine character to start with? I got my ass beat online and I'm wondering if I made a mistake playing her.
>>743078285My stance on Strive from the beginning has been that they need to lower the fucking damage across the board and open up combo routing so you can gatling up from lights again. The fact I can walk into Strive after having not played since season 2, pick up Robo Ky and take almost a third of someone's health off of just cS fS HS xx 214S, no romans no supers no nothing, is silly.It isn't really just a problem with Strive though, every single game released these days has a ridiculous damage creep issue.
>>743078739genuinely the only character that would be a mistake to pick up in uni2 would be chaos, everyone else is just fine. uni is a game where you kinda have to delve deep into the character you like the most, so don't give up on someone that you like.
>>743078846I understand the theory that all these games being high damage, three touch games makes it easier for new players to get some wins in but I really don't know how much it actually helps get people in in reality. I feel like it must be annoying for a new player to get neutraled, set played, and explode even if their overall win rate is higher for it.
>>743078686This book tells you how to play Es btw
>>743078930It absolutely doesn't help. All it means is that new players get destroyed faster.
i wish i could play puppet characters because i fuck with everything about zato so hard except his gameplay
>>743078657snk needs to lock in for 1 fucking game whether it is kof 16 or whatever and not make the ugliest games known to man, they have saudi money they should actually use it.
>>743078846Yeah that and all the weird shit they did with the characters, especially bridget and testament, like why would a normal person play that shit
>>743079025negative edge is weird but it's not that hard to get used too after a couple days if you stick with it.
>>743078846Limited gatlings and retarded damage are part of what define strive unfortunately. You might as well say they should speed the game up and reduce hit stop while they're at it.>>743078930Casuals prefer being in and out of a a match quickly when they lose to watching their character die for 50+ hits and then having to eat oki. They don't remember getting destroyed by round start next match.
2xko on ps5 finally playable
>>743078846Aki is such a cool character, but god damn fighting Akuma is an uphill battle.
reminder that not all overheads are used for mixup
>>743079429I played 2XKO for a bit and I kinda liked it, the combo structure reminded me of the time I spent play DNF Duel. Unfortunately none of the chracters I played when I played League as a kid are in other than Warwick, and I really don't want to deal with manually enabling/disabling riot's anticheat every time I want to boot the game.
>>743079029They did wind KOF15 down awfully fast for COTW. Before then, I didn't really find it strange, since 14 wasn't super-well received, and thanks to their taking the Epic Fail, Samsho never had a chance.15 came out the gate in an OK place though, and we're not living in the era where they can float six different fighters from same company, and people will play all of them.Maybe they have less money than it looks like, since they're shoving out that port of Ninja Master's as a quick flip, and doing a pretty quick hackjob on AOF3R. Probably see a similar cashgrab version of Last Blade this year.
SamSho 2019 and CotW had okay graphics desu
>>743079029What do you want it to look like? I still genuinely don't understand people who shittalk the way CotW looks like it's comparable to KOF14 or something.CotW maintained a stylized anime artstyle with good visual effects, I don't want another hyperrealistic hybridization like what SF6 turned out to be.
Playing Hakumen in Calamity Trigger/Continuum Shift was like piloting a Chronehounds mech.Playing Hakumen in Chrono Phantasma was like piloting a 4th Gen high octane high speed NEXT in Armored Core for Answer.You had to be there to experience how much of an upgrade BBCP was. What a game...
>>743078718He's not entirely wrong. You had people who were in love from the start for sure, but even they weren't even remotely as sweaty about it as they are now. You could have a five or six people behind you, mention you wanted to test some shit or figure something out, and everyone would get on board and into it rather than push you to play and move on.There were also a lot of people who only played SF2 when they bopped in to the arcade on saturday night, played a couple rounds, then moved on or left. These are the ones who sometimes brought in a girlfriend, and left quickly with them if they lost(which was always funny shit to see.)Online discussion's always been a mixed bag though. It's honestly kinda hard to judge it in the early days, because everyone was talking on AOL or Prodigy(internet wasn't a "thing" just yet,) and that made talking about this shit a little rough.
>>743079957There have been some really funny tierlist shifts in Blazblue. I recall CS essentially inverting the tierlist putting Rachel and Arakune at the bottom and Bang at the top, but I don't know if Noel has ever been really good since she's a dedicated scrub character.
>>743079957>pick up CT in one of the many sales over the years>try Hakumen out of curiosity>4C>nothing happens
>>743080053I remember when Makoto came out she had a sudo-infinite combo loop I think it was only possible on 2P's corner
I have nothing but excuses when it comes to not touching modern fighting games>SF6Unga slime mechanics>TK8HEAT>CotWToo many meter mechanics>Any new anime fighterAuto-combos>Tag fightersKusoge subgenrenow if you'll excuse me, I'll go play the Teen Titans fighting game from the old cartoon network website
>>7430799574C4C4C4C4C4C4C4C4C4CC J.CJ.CJ.CJ.CJ.Cairgrab > ODHakumen in BBCP jp imported copy on release was fucking amazing
>>743079957Chronophantasma is where Blazblue starting to get serious on the gameplay
How do I play Susanoo? I hear he’s easy but the seal stuff seems hard to get used to. Anything in particular to keep in mind?
>>743076024kino mechanic, so much better than drive rush dogshit
>>743080414pseudo
>>743081323Just remember your seals and go learn that one combo involving crush trigger that damn near guarantees you'll unlock Seal 5, the grand viper.>Good Seals to unlockSeal 1 upgradesSeal 2 DPSeal 4 Overhead and air combo enderSeal 5 Grand ViperSeal 7 Command GrabSeal 8 Sword>Okay seal when upgradedSeal 3>WhateverSeal 6So most of the time you're unlocking good tools outside of getting Seal 6.
>Hating Street Fighter 6This is the most honest I will ever be. I got out of Steet Fighter back during SF4. I deemed the game to not be for me. I wasn't bad at it and neither was the game itself bad. I had many friends who became modern day pro player names today. My reason was that I've never been loyal to one game and seeing all the fighting games that were coming out during the time (KOF12, Blazblue, Tekken 6, the XBLA stuff like SSF2HDR and MvC2 and all the SNK games, MvC3 and more...) I could not understand why my friends would only play SF4... all day. So I ended up a SNK and Arc System Works fag for the majority of the 7th gen FGC. Fast forward toMvC3 existKOF13 existBBCP existP4A existDOA5 existTT2 existArcana Heart 3 existGGXXAC on PSN (PS3) existMBAACC exist Holy fucking shit this new game called "Under Night in-Birth" looks fucking insane!!! Holy shit A NEW GG REVEAL LOOK AT THE GRAPHICS!!!I become fully apart of the FGC by this point. Watching stuff on NicoNicoVideo. Making accounts on Dustloop, SRK, Dreamcancel, Tekkenzaibatsu, etc. Downloading Mugen, learning about doujin fighters like BigBangBeat and Vanguard Princess. Watching Mikado matches all day on YouTube. Gameacho HnK and Fate UC matches.What I'm trying to say is that by this point Street Fighter was even a game I was looking at but I had no issues with it. So when SF5 came out everyone was so upset with that game. I bought it on a random Tuesday and played it for a week and moved on. When I look at SF6 I have nothing but positive things to say about it because I dont no life Street Fighter games like the rest of you. I see Mai, Viper, Ingrid, Alex and Tifa and I'm hype to jump back in the game and jump out.Nolifing SF4 is what causes so many people to be ass hurt about SF5 and SF6 and they continue to play it while being ass hurt. Whenever I tried telling them to play something else they made excuses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz6odZ0Nakwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFVMCqPIKhUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yni554qj8po
>>743076213Region?Last time I asked this you faggots thought 300ms at 7 frames was fine
>>743082252I pit you ausanon
>point out how corporate, sanitized and completely soulless the FGC has become>point out numerous design issues with the games and companies>get told "uh you don't play"What causes such brainwashing in the FGC?
>>743081689>Whenever I tried telling them to play something else they made excuses.i will never understand this so many people spend so much time shitting on street fighter 6 and like no one is holding a gun to their head to play it, just play somthing else
>>743082252that is, in fact, the best it gets here
>1500ms at 20frames of rollback?>splendid, time for fighting gaems
>>743082252NA east
>>743082331Because they're currently releasing a fucking anime about fighting games right now and instead of playing SF4 like in the manga, they're actually playing SF6 for an ungodly reason
>>743082423It sucks, don't bother>yuri garbage>dude le really pretty girls are totally into this thing and are shunned and bullied even though IRL they'd be adored
>>743082452yeah I know, I read the manga, you don't have to tell me
>>743078586there are matches where im not sure if it's just someone with a ryona fetish
I have a ryona fetish but I will never, ever, ever hurt women IRL I promise
>>743082601I would
>>743082331Being a Capcom fanboy gives them this cultist persona and you can see it everywhere. Whenever you watch a Gamepad, Fightstick, or Leveless video the game they test with is Street Fighter. Ever notice that?
>>743076326>futaruined
>>743082709I've never watched a Gamepad, Fightstick, or Leverless video, but I have seen faggots argue over using sticks and leverless in Smash Bros
Please refrain from posting old Guilty, it just makes me depressed when remembering Strive
>>743082823It's not like it's gone, you can still play it
>>743082823I just play +R cuz strive is too gay
>>743082862Yes, but the success of Strive kills any hope for real Guilty to have sequelsSee also MH World
>>743078930>>743078846daisuke has explicitly stated the reasoning for this. mahjong gameplay = high damage volatile game. i think the secondary reason is that even when casuals get blown out, the lifebars end up looking a lot closer so the loss aversion is less severe.
>>743082823Right let's talk about InvincibleVS and 2XKO shall we?
>>743083057>licenseshitIs Under Night the only original fighting game IP to come out recently?
>>743083093It ain’t very recent…
>>743083116That's even more tragic
>>743079604>manually enabling/disabling riot's anticheat every time I want to boot the game.didn't they fix vanguard on windows weeks ago?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiM2Zl9x9rYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9DYCo5nzTghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK1YbbslOYQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1nSPZLnOwk
>>743083343What do you mean by fix? I don't want that shit running in the background constantly when I'm not playing their games so I was using a script to kill it when not playing 2XKO.
>>743083093You have a very loose definition of recently.
>>743083749OK so what's the most recent new fighting game IP? >rivals of aetherIt's smash but on PC so doesn't count>TFHLOL
i would play 2xko if vanguard worked on linux, why does a fighting game need anti cheat anyways
>>743082963fucking NYAGGERS ruined Guilty Gear
>>7430830932xko isn't licensed, it's a first party game by riot games
>>743083830It's a leagueshit fighting game, not a new IP
>>743083794Stop asking questions and download the "anti-cheat"
>>743083794Next guilty gear will scan your computer for anti brisket rhetoric and instantly fry your gpu if detected
Is Azrael any goodAll the BB zoners looked/felt weird as fuck to me so why not be a gorilla nigga
>>743084051I play him and find that it's hard to get momentum back if you lose it, but his loops don't seem too hard. He has shit anti-air and a weird DP but he's fun
anyone want to try new avatar? multiplayer works on cracked, its on cs.rin.ru, i can post link if you want,
>>743083779Excluding doujin games and exA-Arcadia exclusives I guess it's Blazing Strike. Everyone wants to forget that game ever happened.
>>743077318do the thing that beats what your opp is doing
>>743084051if you want to play a zoner i highly recommend picking up rachel, it took awhile for her to click for me but once she did it was worth it
>>743079654Problem with launch XV was that the matchmaking was broken at launch so PC players just stopped playing after 2 weeks without a fix
My eyes were opened once I understood there was no difference between zoners and grapplers
Fuck it I give up on Relius, if I can't do his standard corner combo then I don't think it's worth pursuing this any further.
>>743084493I’ve also been trying to learn her. The ivy blossom loops fry my brain, I just started trying to learn them recently since I’ve been relying too much on the basic combos.
That new fighting game animu triggers my autism to an irrational degree, because I simply cannot suspend my disbelief enough to think that SF6 can be even remotely hype or evoke any real passion.
>>743084519I don't know how someone reaches that conclusion. The reasons they're annoying are totally different. People hate zoners because they slow the game down to a crawl and force both players into very linear game plans. People hate grapplers because they make the match extremely volatile.
>>743084520What corner combo you doing anon. Is it the TK one with 4D>3C?
>>743085094You haven't seen the light
>>743084520[starter] xx 236C-214A microdash 2C TK-j236C land 2C xx 41236B 5B 2C jB jC xx 236C-214BEven compartmentalizing the pieces so I can practice what I'm having trouble with (tight timing on the microdash, consistently landing the TK) there I can't find any consistency.
>>743085456>>743085123
>>743084725while optimal rachel combos are really good, she genuinely doesn't need them, she does good damage regardless
>>743084239bro its free, no one want to even try it?
>>743085619it's 2am man, I don't have the energy for Mike Z's type of psycho fighter right now
>>743076190teching out of air combos you hold back and two buttons and then mash a third, you'll tech and then FD which is generally the safest option. You can also hold forward and mash j.H or whatever and hope they fuck up and get punished but that's risky and if they bait it you might eat shit.Mashing out of stagger you mash left and right and piano all your buttons until you're almost out of the stagger and then switch to holding down back and one button and pianoing the rest so once you leave stagger you flicker FD instead of getting a normal counterhit and eating shit. Different moves have different stagger lengths that require different amounts of mashing so ideally you lab how to best mash out of each one but just knowing the right technique is usually enough to not get memed too hard.
I broke my fucking clavicle on tuesday so I can't play fightans for like 2 months or so, what the fuck do I do now.
>>743078930It helps get people in and helps people stay as seen with strive's surprising ability to stay so active over the last half decade. Normalfags or atleast normalfag adjacent fighting game fags that like games aside from anime fighters like clear cut and rigid combo structures(have to press y button after x button specifically) and don't give a damn about gatlings or gatling options(anime fighters would be more popular if they did), they either like or are fine with high damage regardless of how they themselves can explode or get neutraled/setplayed to death if the characters look cool enough to them and they can explode people too(see Tekken) and they love the quick matches.T. got into strive because it reminded me of Tekken round speed, match speed and damage wise.
>>743085838Get really into Dive Kick and play with your feet.
>>743085136Please enlighten us
>>743079956Art style is fine, fidelity is the problem. If SNK graphics had ASW fidelity they would have more players
>>743087183If you're bad the game, you get frustrated
>>743077318watch fchamp's videos
>>743087667The racist?
>>743085456Try6A > 236C~214A > 2C > TK j.236C > 5B > 2C > 6C > 41236B > 5B > 5C(2) > 4D > 6A. Deals at least 3.5k. Cant remember if you can replace 6A with any starter
>>743087816He made a watermelon joke during America's peak delusion era in 2020, its fine. I hate him because he has a shitty voice.
What does Ragna use dead spike for, relative to gunflame frc in plus r?
>>743088189ragna culo
>>743088028based man of reason
>>743088189He has command dash after dat
>>743076024They're calling this "woke censorship" like they did with NG4 Ayane... when Itagaki stuck them in more conservative outfits even in the Xtreme games.I dare anyone to look into their Xtreme 1 and 2 catalogues to find anything resembling the dental floss post-Itagaki stuck every girl in. I'll wait.Oh and Mai BlazBlue and Bridget Guilty Gear are canonically trans no matter what you tourist LARPers say. Reporting me for debating your headcanon means I'm right. <3
Uh oh incoming
>>743088968Cry about it, tourist. Xtreme is not mainline Dead or Alive and every one of your faves is queer.
https://www.youtube.com/live/w-cXhJw17FA?si=QV75A-Rn-bgTz2Nb
You're trying way too hard.
You've never played a single DOA game pre-5. Xtreme doesn't count for a reason.
>>743087989I'll give that a try later, thanks.>>743088968It's fine, we had two or three solid threads before the fags with nothing better to do showed up.
>>743088923Tourists point to the collab outfits with Xtreme as "deliberate sexualization", then point you to the jiggle physics in the first game... the same one where Kasumi was wearing spats under her robe.They'll also say genderbending isn't trans when Mai is happier as a girl.
Blazblue anyone?
>>743089285im labbing
>>743088923>>743089231And don't forget them pointing at bromides. You know... non fighting game materia. As if Kasumi fights nude in game. Oh, and pointing to other more sexualized characters like Christie and Lisa to somehow show that Kasumi is sexualized.
>>743088923You dont even understand itagaki. Itagaki attacked sexiness, coolness, and badassery head on and he was never afraid of anyone having an issue with it. Hideki Kamiya has the same attitude about Bayonetta were they keep coming in and telling him to tone things down and all he did was tone it up even higher. Iatagaki never got to point of dealing with modern retards while Kamiya can be seen arguing with people daily. If Itagaki was still at KT and in charge of DOA today he would headed up like Kamiya on twitter always arguing with retards
>>743077587One frame links introduce risk/reward of going for difficult combos for more damage. The only time they suck is on characters like SF4 Rufus/Vega where you basically don't have a BnB without them
>>743089285Sure. Post lobby
Itagaki cocksuckers are hilarious
>>743088923The outfit is "fine", not a terrible design but nothing special, the problem is they are assuming that anyone will buy outfits when there is zero fucking reason to buy or play 6LR.
>>743088189Its a short range projectile but also a way to get in since you can do a dash followup after it
>>743089390So anyway you're wrong. Itagaki was more about balance than anything, that's why he never sexualized characters like Kasumi, whom he referred to as his daughter. He absolutely DESPISED how oversexualized 5 was.And where are those "super skimpy" numbers in Kasumi and Ayane's Xtreme collections, since DOA was sooper sexual and all? I'm being generous and including Xtreme 2 here.
>>743089527steam://joinlobby/586140/109775242701391352/76561199506057983I've set it to ft3 so it'll auto pass if someone joins
>>743089625Now you understand why DOA6 going the route of 5 and pornifying what Itagaki made is bad.
>>743089390>Hideki Kamiya has the same attitude about Bayonetta were they keep coming in and telling him to tone things down and all he did was tone it up even higher.>Let's just ignore Bayo 3
>>743089638You posted a screenshot of thats isnt even clode an ero game though your dumb fuck. And its a still shot nobody would even notice unless they're in camera mode or some shit.Youre as bad as feminism fuck off
>>743089703DOA5, you mean the most content rich and fun to play DOA game ever?
>>>>>>>>>itagakifags
>>743089475Ideally high execution stuff should be for upgrading/extending a combo beyond the general bnb route, but I don't know how you could do that since changing the frame data on something will probably have repurcussions that affect the entire wider combo structure of a character.
itagaki left tecmo 16 years ago and has been dead for 1 year, 3 major DOA games have come out since he left, still using him as a frame of reference for every little costume DLC that drops is ridiculous
>>743089819>>743089870I'm not the one disrespecting a dead man by claiming he was as pornsick as you are>>743089845Name one thing that was actually fun about 5. And no, the tacked on oversexualization doesn't count. It's just jangling keys for you little boys.
Itagaki was a literal fraudster that had nothing to do with the success of TN, before his deserved death he was trying to scam his fans with an NFT game
oh it's just a bored larper lol
You guys are arguing with a literal feminist faggot
>743089993>743090034>743090072Tell me you're an XVV tourist without telling me you're an XVV tourist
>>743089963Damn you're stupid.
I love schizophrenics, they are the only people who willingly speak to me
Smells like that washed up has-been Punishere. inb4 "I was on TV so I should be the voice of DOA even though I only talk about the games that shit on Itagaki's legacy."
>>743089638>never sexualized characters like Kasumithere is an outfit in DOA1 where Kasumi wears nothing but overalls and you can see her cleavage jiggle like crazy.. She has a bikini outfit in DOA2U
If all DOA games had Rollback netcode with PC ports bro DOA2U is fucking godlike.But since no one has access to DOA2U and an offline scene I can only recommend DOA5LR as the best current accessible game on the market. DOA3 is also peak. DOA4 still has online on an Xbox.
>>743090124Come now, don't beat yourself up like that. It's not your fault that you're such a gooner.>>743090185>there is an outfit in DOA1 where Kasumi wears nothing but overalls and you can see her cleavage jiggle like crazy..Oh wow! 1 out of 19 costumes is sexualized! Therefore DOA1 was a gooner game! You sure showed everyone!>She has a bikini outfit in DOA2UA bikini from Xtreme. AKA not the mainline DOA games. And even then, it's just a simple bikini with no random cutouts like the gacha games you love. You're so bad at this.
>>743078846>The game has too much damage>I wish they opened up the combo system which would lead to getting more damage and fucked up combosPick a lane niggerAlso yes you do big damage from cS, that's how GG works
>>743090341Too sweaty to be plapped
>>743090352Are you serious. You'd have a heart attack if you ever went to a beach. Or if you ever went outside at all really.
>>743090493Then you agree that Kasumi wasn't sexualized pre-DOA5. Or else you'd understand that not every woman wears the kind of dental floss shown in XVV to the beach.
Did they fixed the ranking system in Strive? I got some laggy fucks in my placements so i ended up on plat 2 and took me WEEKS to get to diamond 2 with a 70% winrate. The grind is fucking insane
https://x.com/http_yxmato/status/2075390065463714137capsoldiers trying to defend this shit online is so funny
>>743090680it works fine for me
>>743090680No, I took 500 matches to go P3 to Vanquisher with 60%wr
>>743090714It's literally starting to grow on me.
>>743090714how can people play this game and Strive on anything but mute or playing anything else?
>>743090630Similarly, not evert DOA girl was sexualized to the same degree as Christie, Lisa, Tina and Leifang.
>>743090714Tekken died, Ellie.
>>743090714>twitter linkwho cares
>>743088923>>743089231https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/742019649/#742026993It's sad, really. Rather than actually debate, they'll just cry to the mods instead. This was a good post, but I guess it triggered them. Sorry, sis, but facts don't care about your feelings. Mai is trans.
https://www.youtube.com/live/xFktPNLto1I?si=k9DZVgQd0J_Iq534
sf6 is so boring holy shit
>>743088923>>743089638>>743090493Hmm... since no one wants to take up my offer, perhaps I'll do it for them.Here is Ayane's "skimpiest" swimsuit in the first Xtreme game.
>>743090714
>>743091047Here's her most "skimpy" swimsuit in Xtreme 2
>>743090714The only good character themes in this game are JP's and M Bison's
>>743090630I don't even know what your argument is. Kasumi is supposedly overly sexualised in DOA5 and after, even though in DOA5 she just has a few bikinis and stuff, which she already had since DOA2. So bikinis are oversexualised when they are in DOA5 but not in 2? You're the only one here who keeps bringing up XVV as if anyone here cares about it
>>743091095Now here's Kasumi's "skimpiest" Xtreme Beach Volleyball swimsuit.
Rumble Roses was bretty gud
>>743091165And her most "skimpy" Xtreme 2 swimsuit. I had to wade through one pieces, simple bikinis and casual clothes to find these. That just to show that Kasumi and even Ayane weren't nearly as sexualized as the tourists say.
>>743090352>Oh wow! 1 out of 19 costumes is sexualized! Therefore DOA1 was a gooner game! You sure showed everyone!He sure showed you that Itagaki sexualised Kasumi, which you said he NEVER did
>>743091137My point is Xtreme Venus Vacation has clearly warped your view of Dead or Alive as a whole. Otherwise, you would understand that >>743088923 is on par with your example of her coveralls costume from the first game. Now go back to sucking off Punishere. The rest of us will be playing Dead or alive.Also I recommend starting from this post regarding the first two Xtreme games >>743091047
Weekly +R livestream.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFktPNLto1I
>>743091375Again, that's just one outfit out of a larger handful. Every other outfit is shinobi robes and her schoolgirl disguise.
Guys how many threads do we have to do this for before you wise up. Niggerfaggot shows up with a post that has no merit aside from wanting to start an argument, compared to the post speed the thread was before it's probably moving at least 2-3x as fast as it was now which means the loser is mixing in replies to himself along with the few of you who are actually getting baited. Just ignore the retard.
>>743091375Then you agree >>743088923 is sexualized, yes? It shows off the same amount of skin, just on her butt and vagina.
>theyre still arguing with the doa feminist
>>743091527It's more on topic than spamming waifus and trapshit
>>743091459It's sexualised. She was sexualised. That outfit sexualised her in DOA1. Tits out and jiggling, it is an example of Kasumi being sexualised in DOA1. Sexualised.>>743091531Yes!
>>743091583Again, that's just one outfit out of a total of 19.
>>743091574You can't mischaracterize the thread when I can just scroll up and see what it looked like before the fucking troll derailer (you, in all likelyhood) showed up. People were talking mostly about Blazblue and Guilty Gear, looking for matches and trying to figure out labbing shit.Go fuck yourself and find something better to do.
Not those anons, but I remember Kasumi and Ayane's ages being censored in international versions of DOA2 - listed as "Unknown" - because they were underage (i.e. under 18). They knew what they were doing.
>>743091458I miss the AC version of May Ship with the Haruhi references. The Madoka girls don't really fit with the rest of the game's art style.
>>743091801Some people say Marie Rose goes against Itagaki's vision, but when you factor the whole "three of the girls were underage" thing, I know he would've pulled something similar to spite Swedish censorship. Man was very rock 'n' roll like that.
>>743091790>Blazblue and Guilty GearBoth very good queer recommendations. Thanks, sis! I knew we could count on you <3
>>743089682Thanks for the matches again. My connections gotten worse so I had to dip. Maybe next time again
>>743089527>>743089682ggs, Terumi is a lot of fun but man his neutral is rough compared to everyone else I play
>>743092629I need to learn more Tsubaki combos I keep dropping them. Im being carried by 214A which has full head and body invul thats why I keep clipping you 90% of the time
>>743092664214B*
>>743092664Yeah I have trouble adjusting to the property thing. A ton of characters have something that's immune to body or head or foot so I'm working on figuring that out. I'm used to pure hitboxes from plus r, which is also why I keep jumping in like I got Sol jH but get anti aired instead of clashing.
>>743092731I actually know more characters I just forgot how to use them. I've only started replaying CF again since Evo. Last time I played was 3 years ago. I need to re-learn all my characters, but I end up trying and failing to lab Valkenhayn instead. Maybe next time I'll bring out my other characters
>>743090714ACKSHUALLY for flips, this sounds on brand. The genre is called "budots" and its something that's played my low income households during events and partieshttps://youtu.be/86OfbQhxo9o?si=k8y1FshPE81wLSAm
>>743090772Good thing Strive and SF6 has a music playlist so I could set up XX songs and SF3 or SF4 songs respectively.
>>7430782382k on steam for a fighting game is fine, remember matches are just 1v1 that means 1k matches at any time, you also get matched with people from other platforms, Strive is fine, have fun playing anon.>is there still a casual playerbase left for me?yes, it was just on sale and on a humblebundle, there are casuals still, just have fun, get a friend to get the bundle and duke it out.
tekbros (not /tekgen/ faggots), could any of you give some pointers and learning resources for leo? leo looks so cool so i want to pick up your game
>>743076024I just spent 10 champions match tickets and didn't win a single time. Oh well better luck next time!
>>743091790Is this a fetish? Having birds poop in a hat and putting it on a girl?
>>743078353>why the fuck don't normies get it?Because fighting games play like nothing else on the market, the closest thing is beatemups which are themselves a niche genre people get through by button mashing.The harsh truth is that your average joe does not want to get a game and then having sit down labbing and do tutorials for an hour before having to sweat online alone, the biggest casuals games are things like shooters, a genre basically everyone knows, that are also teambased, you jump in, maybe have 2 abilities to use with the press of one button instead of doing a QC, they can jump in, have fun with their friends on their team even if they lose.It's the same reason why in real life actual sports like football, basketball and so on are more popular than say chess, people just want to have fun with their friends.
>>743090714I'm not clicking that dolphin porn virus link
>>743093834Personally I go to wavu and applay's Tekken docshttps://wavu.wiki/t/Leohttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/e/2PACX-1vTsgbCJNSTKajMNlJvQleJOl0eTiEcV-PbeU0obDg1lsSqmz0lTtcD2k6NzfTPt7Db9Ua2dz1o_34Sv/pubhtml?pli=1#gid=1978796608
>>743078353IT'S REALLY FUCKING SIMPLE ACTUALLYYou guys failed to evolved your single player package in the 30+ years of your existence, and up until very recently REFUSED to implement basic functional features found in literally every other genres like rollback and ELO matchmaking, and when you did you dumbed your games down to apebrained level that new players have no aspirational goal to stick to the game, unlike EVERY SUCCESSFUL COMPETITIVE GAME EVERMake no mistake, your irrelevance is a product of passivity. You guys had a chance around when SF4 and T6 launched but you blew it.
>>743094067hell yeah it is, bird poop in clothing is woefully underappreaciated, and unfortunately terribly feet-centric
>>743093834men shouldn't dress like this...
>>743094959fuck you dad
I wonder how the new VF will perform. It's so strange seeing a brand new fighting game coming out that seemingly focuses on its fundamental core mechanics and doesn't have two dozen different wacky meters and systems slapped on top.
>>743095003Maybe it'll do well? They're really trying to appeal to american normies this time, but not in a bad way like it mostly happens.
>>743095003Hope you like the break and rush system
>>743095003I can confidently say "I don't know". RGG has been in hot water, it's in UE5, there's more story than Virtua Fighting and VF hasn't been a household name since the 90s. However, it seems to be drawing attention.
>>743095003>doesn't have two dozen different wacky meters and systems slapped on top.because at its core the game is the closest to the 50/50 rushdown slop of modern fighting games lollllll, adding anything else would make the game unplayableyou fucking vf tourist should all fucking die in a ditch>>7430951402K players a month after release on all platforms
>>743095003Its an actual 3D fighter, and even if I think this will attract the hardcore crowd, people usually downplay how a lot of fighting game players like flashy stuff. Thats how we got cinematic supers starting from SF4, sparks flying everywhere etc.
has anyone heard any news about that three kingdoms fighter?
>>743095185Hi Ellie. Tekken died.
>>743095185tekken is ded
>>743095452>>743095483not as dead as VF
>>743095120Ooh, limb damage, ooh scary. Like that hasn't been done before.
>>743095208I still hate cinematic supers with a passion. I don't want to watch a 15 second cutscene in the middle of a match. No other competitive game does this shit.
>watching a tournament>finally a white player on stream>they're transWhy?
>>7430950032 years ago I would've said it would do great just because its by the Yakuza guys, but RGG have done a lot ot taint their reputation in the last few years. But I reckon it will do great in Asia and probably modestly well in the west just because people who dont like T8 will pick it up (they will not like VF6)
>>743095524Oh Ellie. Much like how you will never be a real woman or artist, Tekken will never be a real fighting game again. Why does VF scare you so much anyway?
>>743095185>tekkuck getting triggered by the mere mention of virtua fighterlmao
>>743095597estrogen gives you superpowers in fighting games
>>743095597whites arent good at FGs
>>743095598>But I reckon it will do great in Asia *in JapanNobody gives a fuck about VF outside of that shithole.Korea is still Tekland, and China is carrying SF6>>743095662I don't post in /fgg/. Don't pull me into your tranny drama, midwit>>743095678Just a reality check
>>743095185>>743095780Ellie you don't even like VF. You drew gay sissy porn of the most hated character just to spite some namefag that beat you twenty years ago.
>>743095714Really?
>>743079995>and into it rather than push you to play and move on.LOLLMAOIt's funny when Millennials talk about arcade culture they were never there for.
>>743095802At this point, I'm just replying to see you loredrop irrelevant bullshit like a Dark Souls character
>>743095003Virtua Fighter will flop because Virtua Fighter has the most boring fighting game characters in existence. No one wants to play as any of them, including potential new players.
>>743082963>mahjong gameplay = high damage volatile game.Ok, but this is a fighting game, not gin rummy: Asian Edition, he knows that, right?
>>743095754they're good at smash and mahvel but that's because no other regions give a shit about those games competitively
>>743095856It's all shit you admitted to, Ellie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4vsDSF17uE
Guys? Guys? Hello?? 20 dollar Ahri bikini skins here, it's a bargain! you won't find this much skin anywhere else! hello? come on please Riot management took away our sexual harassment privileges until we make more money...
>>743095890they have Vanessa but they probably won't include her in the new one because they're Sega>>743095979okay, that's kinda sad to read, you probably should leave that person alone
>>743095597Take the Japanese arcade FT10 stream pill
>>743096103anything for games like Super Turbo and Tekken Tag 1?
>>743096071Vanessa is only in 4-5, so it makes sense to drop her.It's gonna be funny if after featuring Akira in that trailer he isn't in the roster and is just a side mention in the stupid story mode.
>>743095828yeahand also being black too
>>743095828Think about itTestosterone is a performance enhancing drug in sportsEstrogen is a performance enhancing drug in vidya
>>743095754neither are blacks, all "black" fg players are spiritually white
>>743096071She's one of the more realistic fighters, so I doubt she'll get cut.
>>743083798Hey I never asked for Guilty Gear to be turned into Mahjong, don't blame Daisuke's retardation on me.
>>743096202lol noevery black FG player is the same arrogant dumbfuck nigga as every black person you'd find in the wild
>>743096151I'd make much more sense to have the same characters but give them a visual redesign instead of doing the weird time skip they're doing. Their art department and the appeal of the series itself are not good enough to pull a Tekken 3>>743096248You VFags are so obsessed with realism that it's kinda pathetic now. The only thing that matters in fighting game is coolness/sexiness.
>>743096202WHOSE BITCH DIS IS?
>>743096298no, they're whites trying to act black, real black people either do sports or gangs, you only get into fighting games if you're a nerd weeb
>>743096304>You VFags are so obsessed with realism that it's kinda pathetic now.The staff are more invested in realism than anyone else. An interview stated they would cut certain characters that didn't fit this vision. Vanessa may be safe, Kage-maru may not.
>>743096384sounds like you're just describing failed blacks
>>743096020It's funny that every time riot tries to do something outside their moba bubble everyone realizes they're a mediocre at best developer
>>743096454>failed blacksalso known fighting game players
I've been labbing Bridget...
>>743096020
>>743096151There's gameplay trailers with Akira in them. You think they'd just cut him because some twinks and she-twinks took his place as a protag? Nah, he's too popular.
>>743096405>An interview stated they would cut certain characters that didn't fit this vision.What interview was this? I hope you're making shit up because that sounds like bad news for my girl Eileen.
>>743096514The cool bridget with sick yoyo tech right?
>>743096567Modern american audiences would never accept her...
>>743096460The average League of Legends player is an actual addict, the MOBA bubble isn't even good. League players themselves will tell you that. They're lower than CSGO/2 players on the subhuman totem pole.
>>743095003Virtua Fighter is in the Goldilock zone. It's in the best possible position to be the best 3D fighting game on the market thanks to Tekken bombing hard and DOA7 not tarketing the modern audience meaning right now its the beacon of hope for 3D.What I think will be cringe as fuck is how people who never played VF in their 20+ years of fighting games will get on twitter and create some type of slop meme about VF the way you faggots scream "slime rush" about SF6. It's gonna be super cringe and I hope the VF scene doesn't fall for that bullshit
I have doubts on DOA7 because of DOA6LR
>>743096460Yeah, it's also if they manage to exploit a niche or not, League is only big because it was among the first dota 1 follow ups and was pushed harder than HoN, Dota 2 would've been bigger if Valve didnt take so long to get it out, Valorant only got big by brute forcing it and OW failing, even then it hasn't really touched Counter Striks no 1 spot among tactical shooter. 2XKO could've been king of fighting games if it actually released before Strive, even if it was dog shit the good netcode would've made it big, but they decided to let Clockwork on and he convinced everyone to make it a tag game which just made it take even longer to come out, that and I have to assume the Canon brothers are just horrible project leads. Now we just have a barely alive not great tag fighter living on borrowed time.
>>743096567I keep thinking it was this one. https://news.nate.com/view/20260609n07708
>>743096748I want to be cautiously optimistic for DOA7 but Koei Tecmo is such a fucking trash heap company it's hard to have any hope
>>743096405>Cutting KageSuck my dick. There's no fucking way Kage gets cut.
>>743097235They tied up the Judgement 6 thing. Dunno what Kage could add to the plot after J6 got toppled
>>743096748DOA6 was the shit game. Why the fuck would have hope for a shit game to be good and then lose hope because said shit game was still a shit game? You should be grateful KT didnt invest time and money into the worse DOA game and you're a fucking retard for buying the worse DOA game WHEN YOU KNOW ITS THE WORSE DOA GAME!
>>743096774I still can't believe they bought rising thunder and proceeded to strip it of all the fun features
I like Street Fighter, but most of the playerbase are fucking douches, holy shit
S tierDoA2UDoA3A tierDoA4DoA5LRDoA1UB tierDoA1DoA5C tierDoA2HD tierDoA6DoA6LR
>>743076024>soulless>soul>soulless
>>743097826You forgor DOA2 OG/Dreamcast? Or is that the same as Hardcore?
BRACE YOURSELF YOU'RE NOT SAFE CURSE YOUR NAME OVER THE EDGE NO TURNING BACK EMBRACE THE FLAME https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt09NdE8evw
>>743099189this and spidermans are the only themes I dont like
>>743097732should i move to britain bros? i need a girl like this
>>743099770damm nigga you like these?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U99nG38SWvYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCb8up-tkRA
>>743100191yes
>>743078440To be fair, a LOT of fighting games have absolute dogshit tutorials. Newer game like Granblue actually try to teach you the mechanics
>>743100563Killer Instinct still has the best tutorial, too bad even microslop never gave a shit about it
Games anybody
https://x.com/CapcomFighters/status/2075825474769686917 this clip makes sf6 look like a good game
>>743082540kek i also have a ryona fetish but at least i pretend to fight as well as can be because there is no fun or thrill in just sandbagging
>>743077587>why wouldn't you want that damage, there's no strategic reason why you wouldn't do it other than your execution suckssacrificing damage for oki is a pretty big part of the meta of old GG
How do you guys Map VO-OT for a standard pad?Do I just map the Dpad to the right stick for that game?
why do pro players hate anji so much in strive
the autism hunch
>>743102047dia played better when he had a job
>>743099770>he doesn't like Tokusatsu Ghost Rider openingyour loss manhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-lV2aIWcFw
Should I buy that arc bundle on humble bros?
>>743103452You can't be a streamer hopping onto whatever is big and new for content clicks and also be a consistent top player. You need to lock in to a single thing
Is Mr.Karate a scrub killer? People talk all throughout the internet about how he is oppressive. But he wasn't dominant in evo and isint dominant in EWC either. Are the people complaining low skill shitters,does mr Karate simply invalidate scrub play?
>>743104168his parry
Who's your favorite fighting game boss?
>>743077816how is that game a fighting game if smash or brawlhalla are not?
>>743104278Omega Rugal
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=do2PXE02UuETekken music has NO RIGHT being this good
>>743078686>that led the entire genre down the online multiplayer rabbithole that turns casuals off.two of the most played games on the planet right now are esport focused multiplayer gamesthe reason FG are more "niche" is because you can't blame a team mate in a fighting game if you do badly (unless there's a team mode which is rare)
>>743095780honestly I'm surprised Korea and especially China don't have their OWN fighting game
>>743105312korea has kekken and china has snk games
>>743105312publishers from both have ventured into fighting games between DNF Duel (i know 8ing made it but its still Korea published) and Iron Saga VS but I don't think either of them want to commit to something that could compete with any of the legacy franchises
>Rock vs Terry finals for EWCkinda kino
>>743105469China could easily do it considering they almost have their own alternate market. and they also have a shitload of money now thanks to gacha...A gacha fighting game...Oh no...
>>743076024Post a better themehttps://youtu.be/EsyJzQIqo84?is=9FDTAGP57F6ZMJXh
>>743076024>Roman cancel>Gatling >Danger time>Dragon installGuilty gear has such cool names for its shit
>>743105610>A gacha fighting game...Oh no...Here's your popular Chink IP instead
>>743105764If they did some fighting game with characters from existing gacha, could it have a good roster?
>>743105469>DNF DuelI had seriously memory holed this game out of existence
>>743105752Check out GGs lore of you haven't already. It's some the coolest shit in all of vidya
>>743105707https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6ZYfghtiLc
>>743105829don't worry, everyone who worked on it did too
>SVC is the only game that Vega don't get any sort of downside>Still suck despite fast charge being nothing but plus.Dang, but then game is pure jank.
>>743105752Even GG popularised the name burst and install. It's that fucking cool.
>>743105151That really is one of the bigger things: fighting games are almost always 1v1, so if you lose, you have no one to blame but yourself, and many people aren't prepared for that kind of ownership of responsibility. It's to the point Harada has speculated out loud that maybe there should be more team-based fighting games to get around this.
>>743106016Since Harada is now doing a new game, maybe he will try that, I doubt he will do a non-fighting game
>>743105707https://youtu.be/L0WiIydcpfA
>>743104278Ino
>>743105813I just posted a WN instead, they could always do one of those for a licenced fighter. But you could just end up with wuxia/cultivation slop.I dunno in all fairness, maybe any of those action gacha games that are just glorified MMO rotations would work in concept, since you can expand a character's one gimmick into an entire moveset rather easily. Like Mihomo games or Wuwwawa and PGRI dunno how anything like AL or GFL would really translate, those already have other games that fit with their ideas. Maybe AK would be ok since they made an action game.But fuck that, just make an Onmyoji fighting game with chink gachashit
consider this
Trying to get good at Tizoc in COTW.Had to watch a tutorial on how to use just defend and other defensive stuff because the in game tutorial is so ass. I didn't know the input buffer in this game was so huge.Watching the finals right now in hopes that season 3 will eb good.
>>743107787im sorry but snk balance is always ass with some cookie cutter dlc rushdown ez mode character being SSS tier
>>743095003Not good with the New OC's view, it looks DEI coded by Sega. that's a red flag for customers.>>743104716The Music and Visuals are the good things the franchise is still alive, it's very unique. I swaer Tekken Fanbase is simillar to Doom and Final Fantasy fanbase when it's related about nostalgia and their purist fanbase with the classic titles.
>>743108270yeah I noticed. Mr karate is pretty bs, they will probably nerff him into oblivion and do the same thing with the next batch of dlc.but I am not looking to reach high ranks in the game. gonna do what i can and see what happens with the characters I like, I simply prefer to start with grapplers. I was just really annoyed how I was unable to do a few things from the tutorial until I saw an yotube video on it
>>743097732>but most of the playerbase are fucking doucheswhat does that even mean? you don't even need to interact with anyone at any point to play SF
>>743105752it's pretty cool for stuff like that but it's also just non sense sometimes, their naming sense if both the best ever and the shittiest at the same time
>>743105969Whats his downside in super turbo
I'm having a hard time deciding to play SF6 with Modern or Classic, I don't think Modern feels as good and seamless as Granblue, I know in GB it was made with that in mind from the start and SF6 is retrofitting but idk, I don't like it as much and Classic I can do motions but I don't like their 6 buttons on a controller.
>start abusing jams 2HS after grab>win matchesi didnt know her run was projectile invulnerable until this morning either lol. it feels really good to slowly improve. i was totally eating shit all day yesterday but sleeping on it i feel like i'm playing a lot better
>>743109015you'll get used to the 6 buttons really fast, its very intuitive once you get going. i wouldn't really recommend modern honestly
>>743107787>>743108429What video did you watch that helped you? I have trouble performing them as well.
>>743109082I'm leaning towards it because I guess you are still supposed to use motions for your special attacks on Modern anyways.
>>743108875O.Sagat exists.
is the switch 2 a comfy platform for fightans yet? if i buy sf6 and others will i get plenty online frens?
>>743109186this onehttps://youtu.be/w-JR_wUKhBwit is straight to the point and show how lenient it is
I go back and forth on SF6. Sometimes I'll get a few good fun matches in a row, but then I'll get an hour of nothing but Slime Corner 6 and I remember why I don't actually like this game enough to want to learn it. Call it faint praise if you want, but I actually really like SF6 aside from Drive and the base roster.Do people actually like what Drive Rush does for the game? I know /v/ tends to shit on it, but I'm not that immersed in the fighting game community. I'm guessing Hyper Fighting diehards aren't in love with it, but do people that got into SF with SF4 like it?
well that was boring
you need to be fat to be good at fighters...
>>743109234You will have SF6 and GB but as of this moment GG ST is abandoware, no DoA 6~7, no idea about avatar, invinsible, etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgtfrRO0l4o
>>743109469this
>>743109486ty, it might get better overtime after the new melty blood and other projects get released for current gen
>>743109234A fair amount of switch fighters either have performance issues or lack rollback despite being late port.Big boy fighters seems to play well tho.
>>743109486>abandonware>2500+k playersIf that game is abandonware than what is 2xko?
>>743109634i dont know what makes as big boy fighter a big boy fighter but it shouldnt be too bad
>>743109703Strive switch version didn't get the 2.0 version and Jam and Robo Ky hence abandonware.
>>743109082ops I meant I'm leaning towards classic since you still need motions making modern kinda pointless.>>743109703ggst on switch, mr. no reading comprehension.
Wait a fucking minute, will BBCF Switch get Trinity or it's abandonware too?
>>743077587input buffers during frame advantage leave you with no reason not to go with the optimal, which for one thing narrows meaningful options and for another limits interactivity since without any buffer a defending player could call out a mistimed link or a suboptimal followup or get blown up if the offensive player pulled off the optimal (and so also has to decide whether to go the safe route by respecting offense).i agree that L-canceling doesn't add any actual depth and is just a sort of superfluous execution check, but 1f links weren't really a good example
>>743110054It don't even have rollback.
>>743109608I BELIEVE
>>743109542Is this the Arakune player
>>743076024I've started messing around with KoF98 on Fightcade. Can I get any tips or advice from people who actually play the game? I'm kinda getting womped
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HiyIzaCICYUEpisode mode for Tokon
>>743110159Ah of course
>>743110376they should "introduce" some more characters.
>>743110064>input buffers during frame advantage leave you with no reason not to go with the optimalEven in a game with a lenient buffer, you can still get 1f links from juggles, microdashes, delays or charge timings
>>743110376>another nigress more like marvel token
>>743096460The problem as I see it is they're like other companies that make a lot of money in one thing and then "try" to break in elsewhere. They're unwilling to commit. I've heard nothing outstandingly bad about any of their other, non-LoL projects, except that Riot is known to just immediately give up on them.Most major success is not immediate. Riot, and other skittish big companies, are in the weird position of having the resources to easily try to tough it out in ways other developers can't, but the more money they have the more, paradoxically, they seem adverse to simply shepherding their resources and taking some time to grow their property. Instead they just see that it's not the most massive thing immediately, and decide it's not worth it.
>>743081689>Nolifing SF4 is what causes so many people to be ass hurt about SF5 and SF6 and they continue to play it while being ass hurt.I never got into SF4 (I didn't play many video games in the late 00s or 2010s in general) but I still understand why people would dislike SF6. I kind of do too.>play something elseSF6 is by far the easiest to actually play. Anything on Fightcade is and always will be a mixed bag at best, especially for new or middling players. If you have friends that play it's a different story, but that's true for anything.Of course, people can also just play non-fighting games or do anything else with their time, so I still get it.
>>743110376Promoter looks like rng characterDon't know about Champion though maybe another brawler type character
>>743110953heh
Will Guilty Gear ever get a second grappler?
>>743110376champion moving like a KOF characteryou could say he's aking of fightershaha
>>743111550if they add gabriel
>>743111195>>743112030Champion is gonna be the Slayer/Azrael/Wilnas of Tokon, it's an Arcsys game
>>743111550Who's the first? So far it's mostly characters who just have a command grab added on like Sol or Potemkin but have other archetypes
>tyler is learning classic its over for you
>>743110376>One writer for all five campaigns>Every campaign has its own artistNeat.
>>743112595>potemkin not a grapplerBro?
>>743094462League of Legends still has no good tutorials, spyware anticheat, a very toxic community and and spaghetti code yet is still one of the most popular games ever.
>>743112704>Every campaign has its own artistCould be all guest western comic artists but guest manga artists would be cool.
>>743112923It's Marvel, so it would make sense to use in-house Marvel artists.
>>743112730He's more like a zoner rushdown mix
>>743110376>storm, shuri, blade, promoter, dangerIs this the most black characters in a Japanese fighting game ever?
>>743112030Anon he is explicitly moving like Azrael and slayer with a bit of a gogeta get real.>>743112595Stop pretending to be retarded it's Potemkin. Also either way GG isn't gonna get another grappler because Potemkin is so loved by team red and the general population they feel zero urge to put a lesser form of him in. Especially not a damn mobile or female grappler which team red definitely doesn't fuck with.
>the retard who calls Potemkin a zoner arrived.
>>743110376Will the Champion be an Azrael function?
>>743112730I will stop calling potemkin a zoner the moment they make his mist finer not -4 on block
>>743113042>Counting Danger (the Danger Room personified) as black???
>>743110376Don't tell me Promoter has ribcage
>>743110376>Kieron Gillenokay we might be in for peak.
>the anti zoner tool makes this character a zoneAstounding intelligence from /v/>>743113292Probably just having a little giggle about her hair looking like dreads
>>743110376>PSN account requiredinto the trash it goes
>>743113069>Especially not a damn mobileGay as hell no wonder they got all that lgbt stuff in it
Have they removed all region locked in tokon?
>>743113903no they just removed like 12, and I'm pretty sure they only removed them because people were angry pros from there couldn't play, the rest are shit out of luck when it comes to PC, ps5 isn't region locked, you can just get it and make an account with a fake adress
>>743113973So whats the point of that though, if they remove some, aren’t they already making it so countries without access to psn can use it? Why keep any locks?
TOKON PROMOTER HAS MOVELIST https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HiyIzaCICYU>TOKON PROMOTER HAS MOVELIST https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HiyIzaCICYUTOKON PROMOTER HAS MOVELIST https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HiyIzaCICYU>TOKON PROMOTER HAS MOVELIST https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HiyIzaCICYUTOKON PROMOTER HAS MOVELIST https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HiyIzaCICYU>TOKON PROMOTER HAS MOVELIST https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HiyIzaCICYUTOKON PROMOTER HAS MOVELIST https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HiyIzaCICYU>TOKON PROMOTER HAS MOVELIST https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HiyIzaCICYUTOKON PROMOTER HAS MOVELIST https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HiyIzaCICYU>TOKON PROMOTER HAS MOVELIST https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HiyIzaCICYUTOKON PROMOTER HAS MOVELIST https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HiyIzaCICYU>TOKON PROMOTER HAS MOVELIST https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HiyIzaCICYUTOKON PROMOTER HAS MOVELIST https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HiyIzaCICYU>TOKON PROMOTER HAS MOVELIST https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HiyIzaCICYU
>>743114092Because Sony does not official support PSN in those countries.No really, thats the reason, you can't just select most of the worlds countries when making a PSN account, it's that fucking bad, so instead of dealing with the shit they did with Helldivers 2 they simply just dont have the game on pc storefront, but they will still sell them on PS5s which are still sold in these countries. Sony is genuinely retarded.
>>743113973I think theyre going to remove some others too, morocco cant play tokon and yet tokon will be at EVO Morocco kek
So take your bets, will Promoter and Champion be unlockable characters or the first 2 characters in the season pass?
>>743114674If KOFXV can have non-playable bosses, Marvel Toukon can as well.
>>743114674neither
>>743114648>EVO MoroccoTheres an Evo morocco now? damn the saudis really are just trying to completely take over the fg scene fast, guess it will die just as fast when they eventually give up on it
>>743114817I wish the evil Isla boss had been playable
>>743114849
>>743077318Nah they're all useless for me. Jiyuna will show me three moves and a combo, play against some shitty player online who's playing a low tier, and then pretend like he taught me something.
>>743114957lmao half of these wont be around after one time
>>743114849They even have a program to giving lots of money to locals now
>a mexican terry won ewc for cotwyou know what, based
If your grappler is above mid tier, sorry, he's not a grappler.
>>743109082>you'll get used to the 6 buttons really fastyou don't know me, faggot
>>743115189I saw, what a nice little way of preying on the money hungry pc and making dependant on them.So many locals are gonna die horribly once that money dries up lol
>>743115398anon its like 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of the saudi money going towards this + its the only big saudi investment actually paying off for them. ewc is huge already
>ONE MILLION DOLLAR BLOOD MONEY
>>743115536>FOR THE GRASSROOT LOCALS
>ewc is huge alreadyit had like sub 10,000 viewers spread across YouTube and twitch lmfao
>>743115536sajam be like nooo you cant just suport locals you have to make chipotle making money by using my promo code!11
>>743115497for now, this still takes money to run and they have not spent their money well, obviously they're not going bankrupt but they are gonna start having some issues with cashflow, which is really why they're doing all of this, to build goodwill and find new revenue sources, like getting people interested to vacation in their city built on slaves.Issue is there is no money in esports, none genuinely zero, even less so in fighting game esports, fg players are some of the most terminally poor motherfuckers around they're not gonna visit fucking qatar, and the goodwill part isn't really working out that well, gamers are too in the know, at least F1 and Golf are established sports people actually watch.It's only a matter of time before the Saudis cut back on spending on FGs and then you will be sitting there with locals and tournaments used to getting tons of funding getting nothing and falling apart, meanwhile your actual substainable stuff like Tekken world tour or capcom cup will have been absorbed into the massive evo expansion and will have to severely scale back or straight up die because they because basically unimportant and overshadowed by evo, if they haven't died before that becoming side events.your precious fgc is already dead.
>>743115957are you an economist? why do you spend your time on 4chan then?
>>743110376>Written by Kieron GillenGood or nah?
>>743115830......for cotwit also has csgo tournaments, league, dota etc
>>743076190Just make sure you're holding FD while doing itThe bubble will also help you notice when you tech out.
>>743115957>your precious fgc is already dead.has been since 2016 when shit fighter v was forced down people's throat
>>743116178>Kieron Michael Gillen is a British comic book writer and former video game and music journalist. In comics, Gillen is known for his creator-owned series such as Once & Future (2019–2022), Die (2018–2021), Phonogram (2006–2016), and The Wicked + The Divine (2014–2019), the latter two co-created with artist Jamie McKelvie and published by Image. He is also known for numerous Marvel Comics projects, such as Journey into Mystery, Uncanny X-Men, and Young Avengers in the early 2010s and Star Wars comics in the mid-to-late 2010s including Darth Vader, Star Wars, and co-creation of the character Doctor Aphra who starred in her own ongoing spin-off comic series Star Wars: Doctor Aphra of which Gillen wrote the first 19 issues. He returned to the X-Men in the 2020s with multiple series during the Krakoan Age for the Destiny of X, Sins of Sinister and Fall of X storylines.>Gillen has won the British Fantasy Award twice for Die. He has been nominated for a Hugo Award nine times, once each for The Wicked + The Divine, We Called Them Giants and The Power Fantasy, three times for Once & Future, and three times for Die. He also has been nominated five times for a GLAAD Media Award, winning once for Young Avengers.Make of that what you will.
>>743076190>that picliteraly noone of those bums liked melty lol
>>743116041no I am just someone with brains, the Saudis don't actually do this because they believe in esports, they do it because gamers are fucking stupid and easy to fool with the allure of money for playing games.
>>743116459I'm fairly certain that's the video where those e-celebs are exposed to some surface level melty lore.
>>743116469anon the guy in charge of this is an autistic fighting game fan, he's literally singlehandedly funding snk and they're doing shit like putting old characters in AOF3 which you don't do unless you actually care about fightng games lol because that shit will not sell
>>743116513Shiki FUCKS the cat loli
>>743076367Eh at the beginning some moves synergised with the strive RC way too much.Thinking of stuff like (dash) stun dipper RC jumpscare into wallbreak from anywhere on the stage.And pobo used to remove the tension penalty. Don't know if it still does that.
>>743088189It's basically just combo/rushdown fluff, it's kind of a shitty move now that I think about it. All you get is a dash cancel, and you can use it as a meaty on their wakeup if you time it right. But it's kind of a shit move, yeah. There's a reason he's not top tier.
>>743116178Good, dude has made some great comics, read his Darth Vader run, its one of the best thing to come out of the Disney era, his marvel stuff has been good but marvel also always shoot themselves in the foot when it comes to comics and fuck up runs
>>743116513wasnt melty original lore just some comedic relief non canon shit lol
>>743116609holy shill
I thought Invincible VS was a dead game but it seem still alive enough, though I don't know if most players for that game are casuals or regular fighting game players/v/ has the tendency to scream "dead game" to games they are not dead sometimes, we're not talking about a 15-20-30 years fighting game which never was too much popular back when they released
>>743116609>the guy in charge of this is an autistic fighting game fanthis won't change anything, he is still in it for money and keeping his monarchy in charge, if they need to cut back on evo and fgc funding they will, it's also absolutely retarded to let the whole scene be taken over by a fucking monarchy genuinely how stupid do you have to be to no see an issue with this?
>>743116757>shilling>by saying he's making retarded business decisionsthis board is very stupid huh
>>743116714No, it's about TATARI which is another dead apostle ancestor and Sion following him to Japan to kill him or some shit
>>743116714Melty lore as in greater Tsukihime plot points and stuff.
>>743116714some arcade routes were
>>743116803Saudi involvement in the fgc will go the way of liv golf
>>743116459jiyuna did play mbac back in the poorfag dayshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY9frrAPsmA
>>743099189>>743100191 These are all shit, don't post them ever again, thanks
>>743116787a monarchy is 100% preferable to american private equity control, the last decade should have made that obvious
>>743116905Jiyuna isn't in the pic, he doesn't need to be scrutinized.
>>743105752>>743105845>>743106000>>743108778Still a tranny franchise
>>743116906it's decent, especially compared to the SF6 ost (minus a few exceptions)
>>743116984his profile pic is in the top right.
>>743116923Holy retard, have fun watching the FGC completely fall apart because you all are chasing money instead of jobs
is tokon a real tag fighter or is it a "you can use assist and you can switch characters only at the beginning of the round" type of deal
https://www.twitch.tv/lowkickesportswere here btw
>>743117097Real tag fighter but you can also never tag if you dont want to, you team also share healthbarhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Keo0ukOgBI
>>743095856Who's this whore
>>743117097you won't see tag-like gameplay until you become good and reach the higher rankseven so, the tag stuff is lite
>>743117018Unironically I'd rather listen to SF6's launch OST than the tryhard memetic slop they're doing in Tokon. Not post launch though, have you fucking heard Yasmine's theme? Christ.
>>743095856some of the posts here sound like the crestfallen warrior now that I think about it
>>743117060Oh right.Well it's not like him playing melty was ever questioned, I'm sure anon meant the usual people like Max, Kizzy, Jwong.I haven't heard about Kizzy playing anything these days though, did he retire?
>>743117097Fuck me, why don't they make it so you can switch in the round start call and after the round end? That would be fucking genius of them for such a simple idea. God Tokon is gonna be shit, fuck.I miss Marvel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMJ8nRGqVcYits up
>>743110376>People think they are 100% playable by defaultdid people forget that fighting games often have unplayable boss? or playable boss only as bonus characters who are not tournament allowed?it's a 4v4 game too, having only two characters also feels a bit weird>>743117185For all the complain about "that game will be too hard for newcomers" it sure give a lot of options to make the game easier.Watch some crazy dude winning a tournament with only one character
>>743117618>For all the complain about "that game will be too hard for newcomers" it sure give a lot of options to make the game easier.yup, the fact this is a tag game where you dont have to actually tag out and can just make your team your basically extra moves will do a lot of casuals
Is there an active fighting game that isn't retardedly aggressive? Maybe I'm just doing it wrong but trying to be a defensive player in SF6 is fucking suffering unless I maximize every single combo opportunity, and I'm pretty bad about dropping combos.
>>743117096>guy who doesn't know what private equity is
>>743117185How do happy birthdays work
>>7431178483rd strike maybe?
>>743117618Unplayable humanoid boss characters are rare nowadays though, XV is the only time I can think of that did it
>>743117848Teemo teams in 2XKO :)
>>743117962didn't the latest tekken had multiple of them? even had a playable story only character
>>743117618To be fair they made the gbvs story boss dlc/playable and CoTW had nightmare geese eventually be a character But yeah, Inferno was a traditional offlime local play only character in SC6 and Dural is banned in Revo, plus no Fallen Rock from CoTW at all
>>743117906HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Should I buy Tekken 7 or SC6?
>>743117848BlazBlue based solely on the fact that every time I watch a match both players are doing up back barrier.
>>743117859I know what it is, and it wont happen anon, either way the FGC is dead, enjoy evo for a few more years before it all gets shut down
>>743118268nigga any combo corner carries you and opponent get infinite pressure against you if you are in corner in blazybo
>>743118082True Devil KazuyaAngel JinAzazel T8 ver
redpill me on marvel tokonis it like capcom vs snk with 203 fighters and you just swap on the fly or is it a normal 1vs1
>>743118179For singleplayer? SC6.For multiplayer? I heard Tekken 7 still has players.
>>743118418neither
>>743077318How good a video or blog will be to you depends on what level you're at and what level it's targeting.Content has gotten loads better in the last couple of years.Just avoid the 4h random unedited vods where people just talk and trip over their worlds all the time.
>>743118418tag fighter BUT you can also just play one fighter only using assist if you want. all characters share the health bar. it's basically "tag if you want" instead of "tag is needed"
>>743118345Yeah that's why they up back barrier. The players I watch are really smart.
>>743077318https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VwtwDS7tWo this video really helped me. but after you know the basics you get more from watching gameplay and stealing tech than any guide
>>743118545im smarterer than them
learned something weird while testing in strive today but if you press down too quickly or slightly forward (without actually pressing forward) it counts a down forward input. this doesn't apply to down back. so thats why i've been accidentally doing a qcfH instead of a 6H like i mean to do in my comboes. i was testing jam card setups which is 22S H or K and i was getting df inputs a huge amount of times. its really weirdly finicky, it must be the input buffer. its probably fine on leverless or stick but i use pad
modern fightan will never be this kino
>>743118645I've watched a dozen guilty gear videos, put 100+ hours, and I'm still shit at all guilty gear games. Being a genelet is painful.
>>743117848
>>743119221There was nothing kino about that easy ass strive tier combo
Not like the tag stuff in Tokon will be hard enough to learn that people should be afraid of it anyways. Game looks easier than Fighterz which standardized combos enough to make it very easy to move between characters
bleh 3rd strike feels so stiff and unresponsive to move and press buttons in. is this just a Remy thing?
>>7431183452 IBBs and you have the space to jump outIf they're eyeing the corner escape you can air barrier the AAs and tech the airthrows.Even if you get hit you have multiple wakeup options that sometimes can't all be answered with the same oki. (Sometimes. Top tiers are top tier because they ignore it)Defense in BB is strong.
>>743119635storm in tokon looks more complex than anyone in dbfz honestly
>>743119795>Defense in BB is strong.lol block this
>>743120023Trap is fineThe teleport is the problemBut you can see it if you're looking for it.Also if you do it raw mid pressure people will just fuzzyjump out.Superball oki on the other hand...just give up, pick a side and pray.
>>743113171Oh yeah. I hope he get a cool skin though, not a fan of his face.
>>743119635I just don't get the idea that there's any value to playing the game without tagging. Why would you not do assist call > point special > switch and mix when it's an option so often? Every fighter with active tag has had this same structure and yet I see so many treating tokon like it's 1v1 with 3 assists
>>743120509everyone who played the build that is currently available at events already agrees that you will have to play all 4 characters to be competent at the game so lol
>>743120435He looks like he belong in DB and not marvel
with tokon coming out, you think they will do an injustice 3 to answers to it?
>>743120509the point is not "is it optional" is that this makes it easier to ease people into the game and stick with it, one of the biggest issues people have with tag games is having to learn to play 2, 3 characters, Tokon says "you can just play your fav and use the others as assists" which is much easier to grasp.
>>743120179yeahhate those characters that have bullshit flowchart pressure like that like nine kokonoe rachel or arakunethey dont even play fighting game they just wanna flowchart you to death with bullshit
new thread?
>>743120713I'm half convinced that NRS is actually dead and they've been hiding the corpse
