Rate Fate/Extra out of 10
6.7
>>743162034Umu/10
>>743162034Like a 6. Nero was hot but the gameplay was garbage and the story was slop, and not even slop in the fun Fate way
How would you rate Fate/Extra's soundtrack https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdR7m7PFLzQ4M42FiebXfb6id4R_wXtHl ?
>>743162208Umu
>>743162034Where the FUCK is the remake/10
>>743162301It's probably the best part of the game and I wish the new game could capture the same feeling.
>>743162034Embarrassingly bad in every possible metric. Especially the story. Nasu has been coasting off goodwill from his early works for far too long.
>>7431620347/10Fate Extra CCC is an 9/10. It's really good
>>743163982Do you like underwater / sea theme of Extra?
>>743162034The last game with Charlemagne was really awful
>>743163982>Especially the storywhy? Extra at times very brutal
>>7431620347/10The fake out at the start was BRILLIANT.Hate that you're forced to start with Red Saber first. Because let's be honest, yeah you are forced to. Tamamo folds like wet toilet paper if you lose one, maybe two rock paper scissors. And because on a "new game plus" it reveals the enemy's choices if you defeated them enough times on the previous playthrough... yeah.>>743164274That's Fate/Extella, anon. Same universe, different games altogether. Like comparing Harvest Moon to GTA.
>>743164928>The fake out at the start was BRILLIANT.Agreed
>>743162034too long out of 10and they want me to do 3 playthroughs? nobody has time for that shit nowadays aesthetic and music is fucking peak though
>>743166867Four playthroughs.Totally-not-Shirou has different dialogue if you play as maleMC or femMC
>>7431620347/10 with everyone else but 9/10 with Tamamo>>743164928>Hate that you're forced to start with Red Saber firstThat's not at all the case though. Picking Tamamo first just forces you to engage with the game more.
>>743167186I feel like. Nero - Easy. Emiya - Medium . Tamamo - Hard
Where the fuck is extra record
>>743168485Tamamo is only hard for the first couple of rounds. If you build her right she snowballs hard and becomes baby mode.
>>743168485That's what the game told you when you're about to choose your servant
>>743168485Yeah, the game pretty much spells it out for you. But it's not impossible for first-time players, you just have to pay attention to enemies and be proactive with code casts and using items.
>>743167101playing with garcher as male mc seems really gay
>>743168876It's not bad if you don't mind being treated like a clueless little brother.
>StoryActually pretty great>GameplayFun for the first 20 minutes but becomes a slog later on with all the mobs>MusicReally damn great>GraphicsPSP, what did you expect
>>743168821>it's not impossible, you just have to look up patterns and guidesIt's literally impossible
>>743169184That's not what I said dumbass.
>most important Fate title beyond F/SN>best Servant and character roster by a landslide>one of the only psp games worth playing in current yearExtra: 9/10CCC: 8/10Everything but the combat and some of CCC's humour aged like wine
>>743169143The soundtrack really had no business being so goodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CdO3hsiBxs
>>743168876There's always worse... you could play CCC as maleMC and pick Gilgamesh....I'm not even sure you can do that. I didn't play CCC yet.
>>743167186>Picking Tamamo first just forces you to grind every limited dungeon trip for an hour each, with the risk of losing an hour of progress if the literal last mob you fight gets one lucky crit and you game overYeah, I knew that already, anon.
>>743169595Why the hell would you grind in Extra? Recommended level exists for a reason.>literal last mob you fight gets one lucky critMore like if you play like a retard and let them hit you three times in a row without healing.
>>743169538
>>743169720>why would you grind in a game that rewards you for grindingYeah, I figured a while back that we're operating on two different wavelengths, anon. Best of luck in your endeavors, bye.
>>743169765>tfw would kill to be in malemc's positionA-am I a faggot?
>>743169801>rewards you for grindingDoesn't make sense when you pointed out yourself how easy it is to lose progress when you grind without paying attention. If anything it rewards you for being cautious and knowing when to pull back.>Best of luck in your endeavors, byeBest of luck to you
>>743169854Nah? Most of Fate/Extra roster and Gilgamesh are fun to be around, I assume.
>>743169104I guess that's fun>>743169538Everyone is gilgamesh's fucktoy
>>743169854+ Fate/Extra CCC and FGO Gilgamesh a lot less villian ish compared to FSN
Since we're talking about Fate, I'm gonna share with you a veritable Holy Grail.https://files.catbox.moe/enidvg.pdf
>>743169265For me it'shttps://youtu.be/bR5Zs_-XwPE
>>743170091I can believe that.I dunno why that was the case, too. I mean, yeah FGO has nothing to do with an Holy Grail war, so I can assume that the Gilgamesh from Stay Night and Zero that wants a wish hard enough to become a servant would be... less than sane.BUT Extra also is an Holy Grail war! Well, tournament actually, but whatever.So, why is Gilgamesh from Zero an asshole, but GIlgamesh from CCC isn't? Was there ever an explanation? Do they come from different points of their timeline (something something Enkidu)?
>>743169854No you aren't, anone. GARcher, GARgamesh and Hercules (BarsarCAR) are the three exceptions to the "u gay" rule.
>>743170653FSN Gilgamesh being around Kirei probably didn't help
>>743170837Heracles*. Greek, not Roman. Get your Pantheon straight, anone~
>Andersen tells you that knowing a servant's noble phantasm means knowing their true name>but at this point you're already spamming your noble phantasm while Hakuno is still struggling to remember who his servant isAm I a brainlet?
>>743170974>Am I a brainlet?Kinda.You're missing an important piece of logic.The Noble Phantasm is the crystallization of an Heroic Spirit's life, the symbol of his or her deeds in life.Who do you think of, when I say "Excalibur"?How many people have been known to wield Gae Bolg?Etc etc.Hakuno doesn't even remember who he is, let alone know enough general history to link noble phantasms to heroic spirits. Plus, he only has a shot at knowing 3/4 of the playable cast's NPs. How would he know about Nameless' NP, considering Nameless is an unique case?
>>743170974This was explored in the very first episode of Fate Stay Night, too.Why does Saber hide her sword with Invisible Air? Because any other servant (and decent masters, too) looking at it would immediately recognize it, or suspect its identity.Plus they make it clear that using their Noble Phantasm is a trump card that is better used when you're almost sure you can kill the enemy with it. Saber immediately knew who Lancer was right after he said his Noble Phantasm's name. It's not magic, it's knowledge.And of course, the reason servants hide their identities is that knowledge is power, and you could develop countermeasures beforehand (ie: you'd know Berserker has 12 lives, you'd know to avoid Medusa's gaze, etc etc.)
>>743170482KINO. I adore humor shit like that.Carnival Phantasm (anime and manga) was a blessing for me.If you haven't already, watch FSN Abridged with English (Canada) subtitles. You won't regret it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8Eq8TUki44
>>7431620348/10, 10/10 for atmosphere, 6/10 for gameplay
>>743163982Considering how old extra is it could qualify as an early work.
>>743171408Some servants he was definitely programmed with the knowledge for, Robin Hood comes to mind. Other historical information is outright found in the library (Gawain and Kama) but some are hard to guess. He knew everything about Liz's history just based on name. I was just caught off guard because Andersen says this shortly after we unlock the NP so I put 2 and 2 together and assumed he already remembered who Nero was the whole time. But then he goes "I know she was a tyrannical emperor in life... but I just can't put my finger one which one"
>>743172463>KamaKarna*
>>743162034remake never ever
Although the gameplay is terrible, the holy grail war premise works much better as sci-fi than as urban fantasy. In spite of the gameplay itself not being very engaging, I really enjoyed how gathering more information gives you an advantage in the fights. In F/SN, Nasu repeatedly establishes that knowing the identity of the other servants gives you a huge advantage; in practice, this is severely underutilized. Not to mention that Nero mogs Artoria to death.
>>7431620345I like the aesthetics, but the rock paper scissors gamplay, tedious scenario design and the start of Fate's obsession with recycling characters really make it a boring slog. CCC is lot better but only because they actually do something interesting with the premise, the scenario design is still very predictable and boring.
>>743173327>this is severely underutilizedThat’s an understatement. It quite literally never comes up a single time
>>743173327Fate/Extra was more like battle royale. Also talk to NPCs at times. They also fight , die and sometimes fight their friends / loved ones
>>743173327It's more a tournament than at battle royal in EXTRA though
>>743170974Reality marbles are just built different
>>743162034The first game is okay. It has good music.Second game is good and makes you care about the characters more, improving the first game retroactively. Music is still great.Nero and BB are best girls.
I played this without having played or read about any fate games before and it was crazy but damn did I get tired of walking around the same high school
Remake never ever.
>>743169595The way people talk about Tamamo's weakness is overblown. You just need to learn when the other servant uses their Noble Phantasm so you can defend yourself. I only had trouble with Arcueid and after that you just get overpowered. That said, maybe people aren't increasing her physical attributes because she's a Caster, even though they definitely should.
>>743162034>dogshit gameplay>horrible samey dungeons >story and characters are alright5.5/10
>>743173327>In F/SN, Nasu repeatedly establishes that knowing the identity of the other servants gives you a huge advantage; in practice, this is severely underutilized.The only time i saw this ever utilized was FGO summer 2 where they tried to assassinate prison warden Medb with a hunk of cheese, but it didn't work because she knew someone would try it.
>>743162034Strong 6 it was really meh now Extra ccc? That's a 8-9
>>7431620347/10Music is great, gameplay is alright and this felt like an actual holy grail war simulator.
Did they cancel the remake? Playing Fate Extra got me into Fate back in 2011
>>743177859>Did they cancel the remake?Delayed again
>>743177859Sounds like they were almost done, but Bamco backed out of being the publisher. Most of the hiccups regarding Type Moon lately have been over their reluctance to censor their own material.
>>743178016Hope they realized turning it into a deckbuilder was fucking retarded
>>743178218They lost their publisher lol. Extra Record is not coming any time soon.
>>743178271The video is a year old.
What happened to combat system? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nV3c97yCSww
>>743178330oh . my bad
Fate/Extra Record Game Delayed, Loses Bandai Namco as Publisher (2026-03-15 ) https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2026-03-15/fate-extra-record-game-delayed-loses-bandai-namco-as-publisher/.235339
>>743178271source?
>>743178543"Type-Moon noted that development on the game will continue, but the game's development structure will change. Type-Moon will announce details on the game's new release date and publisher once they have been determined."
>>743178543I have a feeling that Kazuya is fucking lying about the stage of development Extra/Record is at. Something has to be very wrong for the publisher to pull out.
>>743178323where did this come from?
>>743174417>tfw that bitch that kills her boyfriend also gets killed the week right after that.Deserved. Fuck you, bitch.
>>743178692What's stopping them exactly?
>>743178601>the game's development structure will changeFrom desktop to trash bin?
>>743178692rumor mill has it that it was largely a disagreement over censorship. bamco has been wanting to tone down anything that could be remotely disagreeable in an attempt to appeal to "modern audiences" and type-moon was unwilling to play ball.
>>743178764Last year he promised to deliver Extra/Record this spring, justifying the delay with complications in VA work. BUT WHE THE SPRING CAME THE PUBLISHER FUCKING ABANDONS THEM!?
>>7431620347/10The first half of the game was very well-written, and I enjoyed seeing the mutual growth of Hakuno (learning that his life is intrinsically just as valuable as anyone else's) and his Servant (learning to trust others as [s]he embraces Hakuno). The opponents all served as excellent philosophies to bounce off of.The second half of the game felt too rushed, like the writers ran out of ideas. With Hakuno fully realized as a character, they lacked (never came up with) any other major plot elements, resulting in it becoming a below-average battle shonen. Kotomine's truth nuke regarding the nature of the Moon Cell Holy Grail War was far more impactful than the Twice boss fight.As for the combat, Rock-Paper-Scissors with skills was a nice change of pace from standard JRPGs. It could be very frustrating at times, but having to take risks and memorizing your opponent made the stakes feels much higher. Even if you turned to a guide for boss fights, save-scumming is canon.
>>743178903Maybe ports like Switch 1 causing issues?
>>743162034Fantastic game, love me Saber, love me Rin, hate Nasu retconning it in every single post Extra Extraverse game
Someone wrote CCC Remake too
>>743178903I will refuse to believe that Type Moon doesn't have the money to publish their own games. They have generational wealth for millions from their gacha alone.
>>743179013Sure, but this alone couldnt make Bandai leave and abandon the project
>>743179149"You guys taking too long. I'm out" maybe this too?
>>7431620348/10I like it, and i like it a lot.Individually, i don't think it's elements are great outside of the OST and visuals (seriously, the game is real pretty one of the best looking psp games).However, i think when together, they all work really well. Some may acuse the combat of being glorified Rock Paper Scissors, and they are not wrong, but i think there's more nuance to it than people give it credit for. Learning enemy patterns and then using them to make educated guesses. It can be a bit annoying like Berserker where you have shoot in the dark. But it is extremely rewarding, even if relies a bit too much on trial and error. Likewise, the plot isn't particularly deep, but it's simple, earnest and the banter is great. Each week fighting an different nutjob and having to overcome his gimmick makes each enemy memorable. I'll conceede the part with Twice and Buddha are the weakest element, and even then, it has a lot thematic build up. And as i said, both the OST and presentation are excellent. I love this little game, a lot and i look forward to the remake. Tamamo is my wifehttps://youtu.be/gRBCGK-dpdg?si=F_bAG3-_u6Lk-S9J
kind of shit. the dungeons are just annoying pattern memorization
>>743178323>from 2024Don't play with my heart, anon...
>>7431620344/10Genuinely a terrible game. One of the worst I've played.
The closest thing in the series to the original VN.Hakuno is one of the best characters in the series, even if you can summarize him/her as "muh optimism."
>>743179768>The closest thing in the series to the original VN.holy shit kill yourself.
Fate/Extra CCC Gilgamesh AR Romance Tapestry (w/ English subtitle) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YR7Tqm6Ho0
>>743162034Crazy how the remake still isn't out. It already looked bad for its time when it got announced but it's just straight up embarrassing now if they dare to charge more than $30 for it.
>>743162034>Think about playing it and CCC>Remake is announced with gameplay shown off>Never comes outWhy is Type Moon baiting so hard with this shit?
>>743180102The only thing they like doing is milking GO. The one project they work on every few years is out of a feeling of obligation and spite
>>743179118Publishing kinda takes more than just throwing money at the monitor
>>743180370GO is what ruined the series. A decade of writing the story for that so Nasu could procrastinate on the Tsukihime Remake.
>>743179987they can't find a way to make this piece of shit actually fun to play
>>743171408utabro....
I liked it but Fate Extella the Umbral Star completely blew me out of the water. Its the perfect game and story. My eyes tear up just thinking about it.I picked up grand order cuz I was that desperate for more Altera content and yeah I was severely disappointed.
>>743180525You can't say that with a straight face when the shittiest indie games have been self-published for more than a fucking decade now.
>>743181018The absolute joy when- Hakuno chooses to cleanse Altera's poison, even against his own interestsand- In the third route Hakuno sends his thoughts to alternate timelines right before his death, which ends up with sorta-timetravel + the villain getting buttfucked right in the prologueAbsolute, total kino. Link doesn't even come close. Although gameplay is better in Link. But FUCK the random missions in Link, that was absolute dogshit.
Have you guys seen how their story goes in FGO ?
>>743181820No I don't play gachas.
>>743181018>>743181669>Altera saying "When will I awaken from this dream?" every time she starts a stage>Think she hates her role that much and wants it to end>The reveal that she actually had so much fun with you she didn't want it to endholy shit I bawled. I don't know why that hit me so hard, but it was really well executed
>>743181820I haven't because I wanted to get through fgo's main story first but that shit's so long
4/10, 5/10 just because I like Tamamo.I started with Tamamo and hated it because it's just memorization for a while. People say it's only the early game but that early game can take a really long time if you're constantly dying because you guessed 1/7 wrongIf I didn't play with an emulator I think I would have put it down and never played again.
>>743183086fellow Tamamo enjoyer
>>743170653>Gilgamesh from Stay Night and Zero that wants a wish hard enough to become a servant would be... less than sane.It's less his desire for a win and more just the circumstances. Gilgamesh in the World of Stay Night has been hanging around bastards like Kirei, Tokiomi, and Shinji all day and also had to spend ten years essentially living as a regular person which gave him ten whole years to stew in his hatred for how bad humanity has gotten since he died.Gilgamesh in the World of Extra didn't get all that time while he was incarnated and got to hang out with someone with the right traits to bring out his positive side in the form of Hakuno.
Its still crazy to me that a game like CCC is never getting made ever again its one of the funniest games I've played like when I got tamamo's spell that does more damage to male servants and the realization of who i'd be fighting next was funny as shit
>>743181820I picked FGO up so I could play through those stories, but everything in that game filtered me hard. You could get carpal tunnel from the amount of clicking you need to do.
>>743185224There are youtube videos with just story / cutscenes of chapters
Extra series have best Shinji version
>>743183086>emulatorFFFFFFUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKI HATED the early game with Tamamo! But I played on my PSP back then... I completely forgot about emulators and savestates.Thanks for the reminder anon, gonna give it another try, but this time with savestates.
>>743183979>It's less his desire for a winI meant that he had to have a wish in order to be picked to fight in the grail war.For someone like Gilgamesh (first hero in history, first king in history, died of old age with his kingdom prospering, basically top of the world) to have a wish, it can't be a good one.
>>743162034I will play it for her and the Rin x Nero yuri scene.. It's in my backlog.
>>743189753>the Rin x Nero yuri sceneLiterally no such a thing exists in the game. Dykes burn in hell.
>>743189753You're going to be blueballed if you're playing it for that.
>>743179118That's not necessarily the case. FGO funds are split in a similar way that Pokemon funds are split three ways due to TPC.
>>743191041Extella Tamamo was very horny
>>743182178lol
>>743164831>why? Extra at times very brutalExamples?
>>743199358You see how your opponents die after defeating them . NPCs in school also going through this battles. School more empty each time. One NPC killed boyfriend in battle, another NPC killed friend
>>7431620346 or so, and only for the writing. The gameplay is absolute trash and I'm looking forward to the remake in 20 years.
>>743199590Do we know who designed Extra's engine and gameplay?
>>743199358Shinji.
>>743199747good example
>Extra Record? Still in limbo, so bad that bamco had to drop it>By Niinou's own admission, Bamco was doing a lot to keep the development functional (even hiring the musicians, the visual departments, etc.) because Studio BB is literally just 7 guys>their initial goal was to also remake CCC after Extra>Red Garden is nowhere to be seen>Nasu said in the FGO 10th anniversary ending that hundreds of people work on FGO and he can't exactly make them all out of work and homeless just because he's trying to be deep, he is giving them a job by writing FGO>Nasu wants you to cope with sliding low res pngs that get worse animation every year >Nasu is a self hating beta who thinks everything he makes is garbage after he releases it>Nasu goes back to playing Genshin and HSRBravo Nasu
>>7431620348/10.With a better battle system and a few more servant options/branches it would have been much better.
>>743163716>Where the FUCK is the remakeDelayed.Again.https://typemoon.com/news/2026/oMFM24Rather than "beyond Spring 2026" I feel it might not come out until 2027 desu.
>>743202774Jesus. What the fuck is going on?
>>743168547>>743173016>>743177528>>743177859>>743202774>>743199358>Extra at times very brutal>Examples?"Shinji".Nursery Rhyme.Julius.Arguably Hakuno/n themself because their backstory is pretty sad with them being a human with a degenerative brain illness that could only be cured by Twiceman who died long before the events of the game.
>>743202930Three posts up from yours.
>Masquerade. Blue Blue Glass Moon, Under the Crimson Air. night closed night. other night, night pain, night sink. is NIGHT/STAY NIGHT.>Witch on the Holy Night>The Garden of Sinners>Paradox Paradigm>Tsukihime: Blue Blue Glass Moon, Under the Crimson Air>Tsukihime PLUS+DISK: Alliance of Illusionary Eyes>Tsukihime Kagetsu Tohya: Twilight Glass Moon, Fairy Tale Princess>MELTY BLOOD: Hologram Summer, Night on the Blood Liar>MELTY BLOOD Re-ACT - Through the Looking-Glass, Fairy Tale Transparently>MELTY BLOOD Act Cadenza - Through the Looking Glass, Black Light transparently>MELTY BLOOD Act Cadenza Ver. B - Through the Looking Glass, Northern Light transparently>MELTY BLOOD Actress Again Current Code - Hologram Summer Again, Tri-Hermes Black Land>Fate/stay night Unlimited Blade Works>I am the bone of my sword. Steel is my body and fire is my blood. I have created over a thousand blades. Unaware of loss, Nor aware of gain. Withstood pain to create weapons, waiting for one’s arrival. I have no regrets. This is the only path. My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works.>Fate/stay night Heaven's Feel>In the battleground, there is no place for hope. What lies there is just cold despair and a sin called victory, built on the pain of the defeated. The world as is, the human nature as always, it is impossible to eliminate the battles. In the end, killing is necessary evil - and if so, it is best to end them in the best efficiency and at the least cost, least time. Call it not foul nor nasty. Justice cannot save the world. It is useless.>The sage cries out. "Open, Gates of Heaven. Bless us and bestow miracles upon us>Live or Die by the Sword. What power do you hold in your hands...? Dancing flames, decaying Earth, withered ocean>Rediscover the starting point of Fate; the Origin.>MELTY BLOOD: TWI-LUMINANasu's Engrish... soul
>>7431620346/10The story was fun and the boss fights are entertaining, however the dungeon exploration and fighting regular enemies are not very good. The game could've been better if it only has the school stuff and boss fights.
>>743162247>>743163982You're idiots who can't tell good writing from eating literal shit, kysExtra is fucking Amazing despite being so low budget. It's for good reason it spawned sequels as a spin off. It's the best written game on the PSP you animals, you absolute baboons.The elevator talks between contestants are some of the best dialogues in gaming.The game itself might be a 7/10, but if you appreciate a good character-driven story it's hard to do better
>>743164928I really don't understand how people find the game at all difficult with tamamo. You only need a few known moves to annihilate enemies with spells, so the only concern is mp, not hp.
>>743169184I finished extra and CCC without guides with my wife tamamo. It wasn't even hard. Getting the noble phantasm makes it easy mode. You just need to guess patterns. By the time they get complex enough to matter you got the mp to blow everything up before it reaches you. How hard is it to remember some mob starts with defense every time, or that another likes breaking you and then attack? It's only hard if you're trying to do perfect physical combos every time, but that's not what tamamo is for
6/10major points came from the music, aesthetic and the idea of a FATE turn based RPGI really don't like the RPS battle system and how basic the actual combat mechanics are Dungeons are boring too
Should I read this event?
What's the verdict on Last Encore
>>743205548It was shit. Seemed to set up some interesting stuff early on but it didn't go anywhere
>>743205548nasu doing damage control on his blog was funny as shit
>>743195681Why couldn't she be my Servant in one of the games?
Will she be in Extra Record?
At this point they might as well just add the rest of the servant class choices for the remake and gave us all 7 servants.
>>743181018Extella is dogshit.>>743181820No, and I don't fucking care.
>>743209692probably, but its never releasing
>>743205548The great secondary filter.
>>743162034it's mid so i guess maybe a 6 out of 10. though i have come to appreciate the rock paper scissor gameplay of the duology. i played CCC recently with spreadsheets and typed down all the enemy move combinations i could pick up. i had a lot more fun doing that rather than trying to remember them or looking up a guide.
>>743189519His desire is to keep others from laying claim to his possessions. He wants to gate keep retards from using the grail in zero.In stay night he wants to use it to do a great reset on humanity so it can reach its full potential and become a space faring civilization. Given that he has clairvoyance EX there's a decent chance that his plan to restart Human civilization with the survivors of his great reset would have actually worked.
>>743205548
What is your opinion on Ronald McRonald?
>>743213472Greatest heroic spirit.
>>743213472whatever. i do think it's pretty amusing CCC focused on the characters that sucked in extra and made me actually care about them. then there's her and the only mention of her is liz saying she killed her. it's like they gave up on her as a character lol.
Did the sequel, CCC, ever get translated? Officially, unofficially, whatever. Can I play it and where/how?
>>743214240I pretty sure the fan translation was done a few months ago
>>743214240no there has not been one for like few years now
>>743214240It's been done for like a year now.
>>743162034Cool aesthetic, music, and characters. Zero replay value despite multiple choices for partner because of the mindless, un-interactive, and boring gameplay.Overall a 6/10. Memorable enough.
>>743214240Its been finished for over a year now.
What about the other Fate game on PSP?What's it like?
>>743178195Why do they need a publisher? Why not just make it? What do publishers even do?
>>743162034Overrated ntr game
>>743214240yes, yes you can, emulate it or play it on an actual psp.
>>743213472Quit clowning around, anon.
hm
Story is bad, gameplay is bad, beginning of the end of the fate series. Only good thing is the buddha shit at the end just for how stupid it is. CCC is just as bad.
>>743220147What about OST?
>>743205548Absolute babble surrounded by Shaft imagery. 6/10
>>743162034>rock paper scissors slopfate extra record never EVER!
https://litter.catbox.moe/isecp3mdcvzjtnt2.jpgthis you?
>>743162034Fate/EXTRA is the only game in the series I played. I did not watch anime. Nothing. EXTRA is my only Fate "experience" and I really liked that game for some reason.Too bad that remake is never coming out.
I like Melt but she's from CCC, and I jumped on it without playing EXTRA because I saw a review saying it was basically the same game but better. Only to read later that you have to play EXTRA first to get the context. Woops.
>>743222504Melt is mostly from the FGO CCC event to be honest. She is just a bit character in CCC proper.
>>7431620345/10. Very obvious attempt to sell some weird persona clone as something that you've already know. It's really shameless how lazy Nasu decided to milk Saber. Gameplay-wise it's fine, story is very straightforward and very simple. I didn't cared for the most of the characters with a few exceptions.
>>743221230I don't remember raising my little NPC to be such a whore.
Extra was one of my favorite PSP games, and you can't imagine how happy I was to finally play Extella. Boy, did that turn out ugly. And to make things even worse, I played Septem right after Nero's routeIt took me years to warm up to Nero again after that
Nero's tits were smaller when she was drawn in official art pre FGO/10alsowhere-the-fuck-is-the-remake/10
>>743214240>>743214306>I pretty sure the fan translation was done a few months agoIt's been translated since December 2023 by Iwakura broskis.
>>743224367To be fair, everyone got a substantial upgrade in CCC. Nero went from decent to big, Tamamo went from pretty big to HUGE.
>>743221721Watch the anime. It's a sequel/rebuild kinda deal.
>>743224139>Boy, did that turn out uglyWhat happened?
Never played any of these but really like the UMU girl. Is the upcoming remake going to be ok to start?
>>743224639Do not listen to this faggot. Last Encore is an affront to the whole medium.
>>743162034This game was so shit but I ended up completing it only because I was vibing along with the soundtrack
>>743225242>Is the upcoming remake going to be ok to start?As far as we know it's going to be a faithful remake story wise with new content and a new battle system, so it should be.
I liked it enough and this was before fate was ruined by the fucking mobile game, now that they've made billions I'll be much more critical of the remake if that shit ever releases (it won't)
>>743224367BB is quite a bit bigger
>>743227261lesbian sex
>>743214847Publishers have connections that can get your game the exposure and shelf space it needs for normies to notice it and buy it. Easier and cheaper to get lots of discs produced at once since the bigger publishers have preexisting contracts and whatnot. Type Moon is a small operation that can't do any of that on its own.
>>743224834SakuraiShe's a terrible writer and is responsible for the God awful story in both extella and septem
>>743227261post more tits for BB and Nero please thank you
>>743162034Everytime I try to play Extra I get to the second week and lose all motivation to continue. It's just a boring game held together by a setting with some interesting ideas but not enough to be anything more than good.There's a reason it's anime "adaption" is the worst fate anime.
>bunch of normie or ironic weaboos hating fate extra nowwhere the fuck do these losers come from?
>>743229809>disliking a game because of its qualities, gets called an ironic weebwhat kind of logic is this?
>>743230004easy, imagine going to a ramen shop and asking for pizza.
Loved these games. I recently played them and any Fate fan would enjoy some aspects of them whether it's the characters, the overall aesthetic and music or the themes that are presented. I'd say Extra is more about identity and keep on moving despite the fact that you don't know everything, despite the fact that you're clueless. And CCC is a continuation about the themes of love that were already there in FSN. Love and friendship
8/10Extra is last good typemoon gameCCC on the other hand is terrible Nasu went completely coombrains with that one and never recovered
>>743231946>coombrainyou haven't played the game, you're just a parrot. If it's the only thing you remember from it then you're retarded
>>743231946>completely coombrainsHave you played Fate Stay Night and Fate Hollow . Coom was always part of Fate
>>743201272>Nasu said in the FGO 10th anniversary ending that hundreds of people work on FGO and he can't exactly make them all out of work and homeless just because he's trying to be deep, he is giving them a job by writing FGOThen just get started on another project you fucksIt's not like funding is an issue
>>743232016You literally start game motorboating some priest hag tits>>743232050In moderation (besides worm whore route which i didn't like whatsoever)
>>743232160>You literally start game motorboating some priest hag titsSo? My God...
>>743205548Absolute trash and further proof that Sakurai should never have touched the Extra cast
>>743162034Like 4/10 gameplay wise but a solid 9/10 in everything elseWell worth a playthrough or three when on emulator to fast forward the combat
>>743232160>You literally start game motorboating some priest hag titsand thats bad because you like dicksthats fine we accept gays here
>>743232223>Open sequel to rather serious game >SEX>YOU HEARD ABOUT SEEEEX?>UOOOUH SEEEXOOOOO>Continues for hoursIf there was some other hidden message i didn't stay long enough to see it
I liked it, CCC was cool too
>>7432324181000 days sex? Nice
>>743232396Man just get the fuck out of here you're embarassing yourself. Just please leave us alone you little chimp.
>>743232635Literally next picture after my post is saber begging for sexYou can pretend/cope all you want that game is shit tier fanservice and nothing more
>>743181018Speaking of Extelle, reminder that Tamamo route doesn't get purged
>>743232418Yurifags deserve the rope.It's funny how the female master of FGO is seen more as a waifu for the male Master to fuck than a poper MC.
>>743232851Is she a separate character now or are you talking about AI chatbots you use?
>>743232851Male masters feel more right as the protagonist. I like how all of them look like they're dead inside.
>>743233157is Samurai Remnant good
>>743232290>but a solid 9/10 in everything elseFuck no.Setting is a highschool. You could do so much with a magitech setting via the mooncell and they chose a fucking highschool.Plot is a tournament? Whatever.Characters have no development, stuck in their little arcs. Mc is just an npc.Atrocious game inside and out.
>>743233157Tamamo bros.Why does our girl have such a huge body count..
>>743233295Bro didn't even watch a youtube review of the game
>>743233283Yes, but you should know that it's Iori's game and you'll be playing as him from beginning to end with some events where you're playing as servants.
Dude sex lmao
>>743233447>rani>sex appealLmao
Kino.
>>743233283desire to get into generative AI for lewd Nero in wada's artstyle intensifies
>>743233447Rin but I prefer her making out with you.
>>743234273Absolutely barbaric behavior
>>743233793Shebhas brown skin.She hot.Also spicy Indian.
>>743234464hot
>>743234273>Generating AI pics of the aesthete emperorI hope the irony is not lost on you.
>>743234760>>743234494Provided it makes my dick twitch, I really don't careI would post some Nero of my own but sadly the lewd stuff (and even sfw stuff) is in the old PC above the garage
>>743227267>Even sub servant get their own cg ending in that gameSecond game suck so hard
>>743227267This route was peak comfy. Who knew tamamo would make a good and happy wife?
>>743233283Yeah it's a good time. The first two DLC stories are just kind of okay (the arena one and the one about Yagyu), but the third DLC is kino.
>>743233307No worries, original and Aria are different people. Also a reminder that all Tamamos are actually of similar stature and Aria uses transformation magic to turn herself into a loli.
>>743237238So she isn't actually retarded.
>>743237784Maybe
>>743230040Ramen shop??
>>743239357*smooooch*
To think the remake would have been out a month ago and we'd be all on our 2nd playthroughs or some shit.
>>743236820What makes the third one that much better? I'm playing the base game right now and just made the decision in chapter 3 to go save the sister.
>>743241219Starting out on the bottom of the sea in tutorial and ending up on the surface in final battle was so kino man
>>743242047It was ok. its not that big of a deal.
>>743241219PSP hold back this game
>>743162301legitimately one of the best soundtracks in my opinion. I could listen to the dungeon/battle themes all fucking day on repeat. They are so good. Let alone how everything else is as good. I almost decided to post All Shall Become one or School IV, but the classic is too good https://youtu.be/0at0vcxnUzQ
>>743163849It was funny when the remake's trailer just used the original Extra tracks>>743162301Still listen to a lot of the school and Arena themes to this day.
Why someone like Hans Christian Andersen working with Kiara in Fate Extra CCC?
Play Fate/Extra CCC
>>743202663Now that I think about it, the game would have benefited from having a different protagonist for every servant.The player would feel conflicted on New Game+ about killing their former character, but it bolsters the theme of every life being equal (in war, the Moon Cell, etc.). Just because you're attached to someone doesn't make them exempt.
>>743245805geee idk, maybe play the game and find out?
>>743201272>Extra Record? Still in limbo, so bad that bamco had to drop itJust make a game you enjoy playing, then write a story connecting the levels.>By Niinou's own admission, Bamco was doing a lot to keep the development functional (even hiring the musicians, the visual departments, etc.) because Studio BB is literally just 7 guys>>Nasu said in the FGO 10th anniversary ending that hundreds of people work on FGO and he can't exactly make them all out of work and homeless just because he's trying to be deep, he is giving them a job by writing FGOThis seems obvious: train staff into writers to take over FGO, then send everyone unnecessary to work on CCC.>Nasu wants you to cope with sliding low res pngs that get worse animation every yearJust launch a reskinned FGO Arcade on Steam as FGO 2.>Nasu is a self hating beta who thinks everything he makes is garbage after he releases itEveryone else loves it, though? Even if they just tolerate the quality, this degree of Imposter Syndrome is unwarranted so long as everyone is having fun.>Nasu goes back to playing Genshin and HSR"Do as I say, not as I do."This must be why Nasu is so keen to tell his audience to stop fleeing from reality.
>>743246150ok
>>743241268Mostly its plot. The first one is almost structured like a fighting game where you choose one of the Servant/Master pairs to fight through a tournament with. Some of them are fun to play as, but then you get servants like Assassin that just suck. The second and third DLCs are structured more like normal chapters, but the second one isn't as good as the third. The third one also adds two very cool servants to the roster.
I didn't like Samurai Remnant at all. I'm surprised it's well received by Fate fans.
>>743210890We need a Gilgamesh-sponsored great reset NOW.
>>743214708>What about the other Fate game on PSPI...I am forgotten...
>>743229317>Type Moon is a small operationUh... yeah, in 2004 maybe.They have literally no excuse
>>743250962I don't think it's that well received. Nobody ever talks about its story and the only time people talk about the characters it's when they're on rate up in FGO
>>743210890Except Gilgamesh almost always kept his Clairvoyance sealed. Kid Gil use it it more often, and even then he doesn't like to use it
>>743251953It's just surprising when I remember asking how people thought about it when it first came out and people were like OMG IT WAS AMAZING 8/10 but I thought it was probably the most aimless Fate game I've ever played. Maybe that's the point? But the fact the story felt like a footnote of itself felt pretty bad.
>>743233295>he didn't like the highschool settingHow much of a faggot do you have to be?
>>743248634Thanks God CCC lets me live happy with my Servant .The OG Extra was depressing.
>>743252405Extella's first route's ending was even more depressing.
>>743252510Every ending in Extella before the last one was a downer
The only good part of extella was the altera stuff to be honest.
the fate series is too confusing. way too many games and spinoffs and whatever else
>>743252598>>743227267tamamobros?
>>743252669It's actually very simple, everything is it's own timeline(even shit that looks like it should be connected isn't) so you just pick up what you are interested in and ignore what you aren't.
What's stopping Fate devs from making FGO Arcade game. But with like story chapters and etc of mobile FGO . Bump up the graphics, upgrade gameplay, add a lot more voice acting. And print money.
>>743252737so how am i supposed to know what this fate/extra game is connected to or what im supposed to play before it
>>743252881Are you illiterate? He just said everything is it's own timeline. Extra isn't connected to anything that came before it
>>743252669If you are SMT fan. Treat it as SMT series. Some SMT games are connected, but most of them just in their own worlds
>>743252598Tamamo's route ended pretty well, all things considered.>>743252510It's enough to make a grown-ass man cry.
tried too hard to be persona
>>743252859>What's stopping Fate devs from [...]1) can't upset the FGO whales2) can't upset the FGO whales3) can't upset the FGO whales4) can't upset the FGO whales5) can't upset the FGO whales (and the payment processors)>>743253039It literally has nothing in common with Persona.
>>743252669WAAAH WAAAH my steak is too juicy, my lobster too buttery, etc etc.Fuck you.
>>743252951theres no reason to be mean and bully on me
>>743253215>my steak is too juicy, my lobster too butteryHOLY REDDIT
>>743252714Anon doesn't know what he's talking about. The credits make it clear Orchid Words continues into the future, just like Golden Poem.
>>743252669Start with the best one.
>>743233080The former
>>743253293>HOLY REDDITOh man, do you know that on REDDIT they speak English?You can't tolerate that! We can't let them get away with it. You can teach them a lesson by roping yourself right now. That will show 'em.
>>743253034>It's enough to make a grown-ass man cry.What happened after Nero route in Extella link?
>>743253386Yeah, kinda... technically the Umbral Star it repelled in all routes... but of course, it will come back. So the route 1/2/3 worlds will be pruned in the next arrival, 100 years I think? Only in the true route it's gone for good
>>743253462EDIT: Thanks for the gold kind stranger! Even the narwhals bacons! XD
>>743253530Nero's route ends with protagonist braindead. Tamamo's route starts right after that.
>>743253613wait what?
>>7431620348/10, the rock paper scissors combat is annoying but I can tolerate it.
>>743233283Frankly, noIt's a Musou that swears to you is not a Musou despite playing exactly like one, with a mediocre cast of characters, padded to fuck, incredibly stupid plot beats (Koga Saburou let himself get mind controlled because "it builds character" are you fucking kidding me) and an awful true ending where they somehow managed to fuck up writing a murderhobo, which is probably the easiest character archetype to write forI'm glad I didn't spend a dime on the game
>>743253883Why does nasu like musoushit so much
Rock, paper, scissors does work somewhat due to the importance of learning an opponent’s true name. Without it, you end up fighting blindly. Even more so if you haven’t bothered to collect much
>>743169538Hey fuck you
>>743253549That's a bit of a nothingburger considering Gilgamesh implies Velber 03 is already on the Far Side of the Moon, not the mention Velber 01 is AWOL. Golden Poem just got rid of the beacon pointing them to the Moon Cell. Extella 2 (which Nasu had already planned and isn't Extella Link) would have continued the story. Your Servants can already beat Velber 02, so the other two shouldn't be a problem with some preparation. FGO also explicitly says Velber is defeated in the far future of the Extella timeline(s).
>>743253883And I forgot to add, despite being a Musou, you only really play as one character who has up to five different styles and the fifth one is objectively superior so there's no reason to play as the other four once you unlock it
Collecting more information about an opponent’s servant and making it gameplay significant was an interesting choice. The rock, paper, scissors mechanic just further reinforces how important it is.
This art rocks
>good fate game never ever
>>743254645I was curious about the Extra Remake gameplay but I'm not too sure that making it Slay the Spire is the best way to revamp the combat
>>743252405>The OG Extra was depressing.Yeah, it was one it's biggest strengths, while grand tournaments to the death where everyone stakes their dreams are cool as hell they also mean that everyone ends up having their dreams shattered together with their lives and it was cool to see a game focused on it
>>743229704>There's a reason it's anime "adaption" is the worst fate anime.Yes, and that's because it's confusing and nonsensical at times as instead of actually adapting Extra it tried to be some sort of weird pseudo sequel.>I get to the second week and lose all motivation to continueFiltered btw.
>>743253717Routes 1, 2 and 3 in Extella are basically three different perspectives of the same timeline. Protagonist was split in three personalities.Seriously, you should pirate and play the game, anone. Warriors gameplay is mindless extra-kino fun, and I've already spoiled you more than half the game already.
>>743254645We have FGO Arcade
>>743253883>It's a MusouFuck yeah, I wanted more just like Extella and Extella LINK.>>743254205>you only really play as one characterAre there cute girls that fight together with you, at least?
Gil wank is lame as fuck he isn’t even humanity’s first hero this has ALWAYS bugged my autism.he’s just the one we know about because his tablet randomly survived. he would have been based on earlier legends passed down through spoken word or even earlier writing that did not survive
>>743255659And Artoria isn't really King of Knights either, there are much better knights than her in the throne of heroes.Your point being?
>>743255556>We have FGO Arcade
>>743254221it's an interesting system but about half way through the game archer and tamamo can spam the shit out of their "fuck your turn" skills so memorizing patterns and collecting info stops mattering
Plants are the single worst thing about Extella. I fucking hated that shit. Takes a WHOLE COMBO just to knock them down, and three more to kill them. AND THEY SPAWN EVERY FUCKING SECOND WHEN I LEAVE A RED SECTOR! WHAT THE FUCKING FLYING FREUDIAN FUCK
>>743253404I thought i was the only one who played this.
>>743256050>having Tamamo without her blue stockings+platform sandalsCouldn't be me.
Best thing to come out of Fate/Extra, other than Nero and Tamamo:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT7-tl9y1Gc
>>743255808You type like a faggot. Artoria is an interesting riff on the King Arthur legend. Just by distinguishing the sword of selection and excalibur it’s already doing a better adaptation than most. Meanwhile with core, his very essence is incorrect. He’s very much a fanfic OC. Its tied into his being and powers that he is the foundational heroic spirit, as the first hero, when he’s legend mogged by some nameless cave paintings
For any Extrafags desperate for more, a guy has recently been translating a bunch of older Drama CDshttps://www.youtube.com/@toclockfate>>743214240They translated it and released it a few years back like all the other anons saidhttps://iwakuraproductions.wordpress.com/2023/12/08/fate-extra-ccc-english-patch-released/https://mega.nz/file/PBNy1KTY#eTW_ejE0nFLj2nOuecHTPWFH-JADQKxqA-AI74aSaTgI think there was a torrent on Nyaa with both Extra and CCC in English as well>>743253404based BMWchadStill the best TM fangame all these years later, shit I even imported it and the soundtrack with Caren ero cover
>>743255808>king of knights This is just a title, it doesn’t grant artoria any privilege Gil is presented as the basis for all heroes, when this isn’t even close to reality. It’s a massive distinction, he was merely the oldest one that survived by chance
>>7431620346 out of 10Nasu needs to end this Hideaki Anno larp already, it's embarrassing.
>>743256210She can't wear the same outfit everyday. She would get super stinky if she did that.
>>743256492>Its tied into his being and powers that he is the foundational heroic spirit, as the first hero...yet there's not a single mention of this aside from his introduction.Gate of Babylon comes from the vault of powerful artifacts, which he hoarded while alive.EA also comes from him being a king descended from gods.I can't think of a single facet of Gilgamesh's power that hinges on him being the "first known hero".
>>743256951She has multiples of the same outfit, of course.
>>743224139>I played Septem...what's Septem? Did I miss a game? Tried googling but couldn't find anything.
>>743257346
>>743256652>two unavailable videosDamn, what's up with that?
>>743255659I also get tired of Fate acting like Gil is the most legendary figure ever and then not giving anything to other epics like Beowulf. But I remember Nasu mentioning it's difficult to write about a lot of heroic spirits when he's a filthy JOP
>>743258321>But I remember Nasu mentioning it's difficult to write about a lot of heroic spirits when he's a filthy JOPdoubthe just doesn't want to take the shine away from his already popular characters, the fucking hack
>>743258321>lore literally tells you that the more an heroic spirit is famous and the more grand the deeds in life, the higher his/her power>shocked that the oldest known hero (oldest = his legend has been known for more time) AND the king that fought against the gods + a whole bunch of other shit I don't even remember is strongerYou aren't even worth a surprisedpikachu.jpg.
>>743162034Waiting for the remake/10
Did FGO's enormous cast poison the well in retaining any sort of mystery for future Fate titles when everyone knows who's who now?Like Extra/Record is hardly a mystery anymore if anyone's a peak over at FGO.
>>743258910Why bother? It will be censored and sanitized to appeal to the modern audience™
>>743163982You can cry all you want but Avalon Le Fae is his masterpiece
>>743258920...it's a remake, anon. Do you get mad when you already know the story of a remake because you played the original?
>>743258973Is there anything left to censor in Extra though
>>743259128That doesn't answer the first half of that post though. You damn well most people these days playing these modern remakes of old games are predominantly first-timers.
>>74325908310/10 very sexy.
>>743259135I dunno. The heavy heterosexual tones with some of the servants are very antisemitic, for one.
>>743258920Kind of, but the hard truth is that if Nasu had any real interest in actually exploring and utilizing those characters in other ways then he'd have already done it by now instead of sitting on his gacha throne printing money for a decade. We all know Nasu is old, tired, and can't even get the Tsukihime remake done after all these years so it's not like any of those characters/legends were going to be used in a satisfying way.
>>743256405Man straight Extra anime would be kino
>>743258920kind of? but theres still thousands of random historical figures that could be used in any fate project, or just making new versions of already existing servants for the fun of it.
>>743222690>It's really shameless how lazy Nasu decided to milk SaberIt started with Saber Alter in the original VN, anon. It's wasn't new even back then.
>>743258273Uh, wow.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekHdRK-UpYMFate/Zero Drama CD I (Bluray Disc Box 1) Irisviel & Kiritsugu's first meetings - English Subtitlesandhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4x6AHjhePMFate Extra Sound Drama Chapter 2: Yowaki Mono, Tsuyoki Mono DISC 3/4 - English Subtitlesare unavailable in europoorland. What the fuck.
>>743259416They already made EMIYA into a fucking nigger. Why do you want more damage?
>>743162034The original is a 4/10 gameplay game, 9/10 story gameOST unironically 10/10So a 7 basically.CCC is full of words words words and takes forever to get literally anywhere It's alright, 6/10
Wonder if that Extra Tail manga is finished...>It's still ongoing after 13 yearsHow the fuck...
>>743260040It's a monthly release and Takenoko Seijin takes frequent breaks.It's the same reason why the CCC manga took close to 10 years to finally finish too iirc.
>>743258321Beowulf is just a zoomer compared to Gil
>>743260040At least it wasn't abandoned.Unlike some other...https://mangadex.org/title/5eee3f85-e774-4a05-9e28-27ab06d1b002/chrome-shelled-regios-missing-mailç_ç!
>>743255659By that logic, the stick figure caveman in cave paintings should be the strongest Servant in existence since his mythos is prevalent in every place humanity has been and is known to all of mankind but Nasu isn't ready for this conversation
>>743260901Okey dokey, coolie. What did this, uh... Sir Caveman... do, exactly?
>>743251982It's not that he keeps it sealed It's that his hubris prevents him from being able to fully utilize it as he dismisses any possible future where he doesn't succeed as not being applicable to him.Child Gilgamesh lacks the hubris of his adult self and is therefore able to actually utilize it effectively.
>>743261002It's actually a representation of polar shift plasma so you could easily throw in some things about sun, fire and change onto it
Question for any of you who have read FGO's story and "ending" . How would you compare it to Extra series?
>>743261002He survived against beasts that far outclassed him in physical stats and that in turn allowed Humanity to flourish, which let Gilgamesh be born down the lineThose two feats alone would place Grug above every single servant in existence
>>743261565>reset ending>current plotline takes place in a Time Capsule literally one second before the ending shotAbsolute garbage
>>743261565A similar zero-sum game ending if you just take Extra's ending into account.
>>743252669>Open Google.com>Search "Type-Moon Releases by Year"There, you now have literally everything and the order to experience them in.>>743255659>he’s just the one we know about because his tablet randomly survived.And that's why he's the strongest. The series makes it very clear that fame matter as well, random cave painting heroes wouldn't automatically mog him because nobody remembers them. Not to mention that being the oldest hero isn't even the main reason Gilgamesh is so strong, it's the treasury.
>>743261731This is one of the most retarded attempts to be contrarian I've ever seen.
>>743205548needed 2-3x as many episodes and twice as many script revisions
>>743261917Don't take it from me, take it from the very Fate series where someone being the matriarch of the emperor's ooku means they have absolute dominion over everything there down to a conceptual levelBy that same logic, Grug might as well be THE god
>>743261731>strongest hero>lost to an autistic teenage gingerGrug would NEVER
>>743261917Wait for it, his hateboner will grow so much he will poke an eye out, gouge his brain and die.
>>743205548As someone who cleared Extra multiple times, I didn't ask for this.
>>743261914>The series makes it very clear that fame matter as wellThat’s the type of shit Rin says in SN and it never ever comes up ever again because it’s not even really true. Correction, it comes up one single time with Vlad in apocrypha. Even within the context of SN, the epic of Gilgamesh is famous: Gilgamesh himself is not famous. You asked someone on the street in 2004 if they knew anything about say Robin Hood, Hercules, King Arthur, Alexander, Caesar, etc the chances are they would. You ask them about gil? Not one single soul is describing anything about him besides hey yeah I heard it’s old. >the treasury Itself is fanfic shit, that’s my point, the justification for him even having GoB is that he’s the blueprint for heroes when as stated before that simply is not true. Babylon itself is also thousands of years after the fall of Uruk.
>>743262583>the epic of Gilgamesh is famous: Gilgamesh himself is not famous...what the fuck does that even mean. Do you think Artoria would've been as famous and powerful as she is if she chose to stay as a farm girl instead of pulling out the sword?Hero's legend being known = hero being known. That you're an illiterate faggot proud of his ignorance doesn't change the fact.
>>743260901I mean that would be true and unironically probably is some shit Nasu is keeping in his back pocketGrug the nameless caveman would’ve been hanging with true ancestors and shit, he’s probably the living embodiment of Alaya, given archetype earth exists he’s probably archetype man or some meme shit
>>743262068I can tell you've never actually read any of the source material.
>>743262763it's a matter of iconography i think, like u said arthur and excalibur are popular af and have strong imagery with the stone and the sword thing but gilgamesh is a little hard to imagine but people know of himaslo im nta and im just trying to rationalize waht he said
>>743262763>Hero's legend being known = hero being knownNo, this is objectively not true. Are you ESL? Knowing “of something” is not the same of “knowing” something. You can know the “epic of Gilgamesh is the oldest legend” but not know the actual legend or the hero. People know the entire deal with King Arthur, the knights of the round, the quest for the holy grail. People do not know about Gilgamesh vs le humbaba. The tale is not known. In real life, people don’t even know what if a very famous statue of Ashurbanipal is supposed to be said Ashurbanipal or of Gilgamesh. No one is making that mistake with a bust of Ramses. No one makes that mistake with a statue of Caesar.
Something popular and etc being summoned . Kinda reminds me SMT a bit. SMT also have Scathach
>>743263108>Scathach"To make it up to Uathach and Scathach, Cu Chulainn assumes Cochar's duties, and becomes Uathach's lover. Scathach eventually promises her daughter to him, without requiring the traditional bride price. Scathach also grants Cu Chulainn the "friendship of her thighs" (sexual intercourse) when his training is almost complete. When her rival, the warrior woman Aífe (also assumed to be Scathach's twin sister), threatens her territory, Cu Chulainn defeats her in battle and forces her to make peace. Aífe also sleeps with Cu Chulainn, producing his son Connla, who Cu Chulainn kills years later without realizing he is his son. "
>>743262763People know the epic of Gilgamesh as in it exists. Maybe a final fantasy fan or a fate fan can tell you maybe about enkidu and the quest for immortality but that’s it. No one actually knows about it
>>743262583>it never ever comes up ever again because it’s not even really true.It's also brought up as the reason why Holy Grail Wars can't really happen in Greece, and Semiramis gets her maximum possible fame boost if she's within in her Hanging Gardens.>the epic of Gilgamesh is famous: Gilgamesh himself is not famousIt's enough. You'd be shocked how many people don't know a single fucking thing about Arthurian Legend other than the basic facts that he took the sword from the stone and maybe that Merlin exists, because I sure as hell was, yet all the Round Table enjoy a fame boost because regardless of how many people know the details, everyone fucking knows Arthur, it's a similar thing with Gilgamesh.>the justification for him even having GoB is that he’s the blueprint for heroes when as stated before that simply is not true.This is only part of it. The other half is simply because Gilgamesh was constantly collecting treasures all the time throughout his time being alive, and again, while yes, there were heroes before him, the fact that they aren't remembered by anyone plays a role in why nobody cares about them.>Babylon itself is also thousands of years after the fall of UrukThis is true and this is honestly just Nasu being Nasu. He just wanted to give it a name connected to the ideas of sin and a golden capital.>>743262812>I mean that would be true and unironically probably is some shit Nasu is keeping in his back pocketWouldn't be the first time he pulled some shit like this, it's what he did with Sefar.
>>743262874Me, or you, buddy?I'm just mentioning what actually happened in the Ooku event, in the game that is far more generous to Gilgamesh and his achievements than FSN ever was, a VN where his greatest feat was jobbing in three different ways, with each one being more humiliating than the previous.
>>743263276Fame boost doesn’t matter. Simple as, never has and never will. Even in the one case when it’s explicitly supposed to matter in apocrypha it didn’t mean anything.
>>743263089Nigger he's in the fucking title.That being said if we're going by the knowledge base of real world people Arthur is a literal who as well even in Britain. The average person doesnt know shit beyond the name Arthur and maybe some sort of circular shaped table.
>>743263281You, stop getting your information from tiktok summaries.
>>743263412>It doesn't matter because I say soIt's also nerfing Lancer in stay night because he gets at the very least a slight boost if he's pretty much anywhere that isn't Japan, and in the example you pointed to Vlad was able to fight evenly against fucking KARNA with the fame boost and then got massively nerfed once he was in Hanging Gardens and lost it. You can say it doesn't matter all you want, it clearly does.
>>743263475>Nigger he's in the fucking title.The Pythagorean theorem. Basically every student has heard of Pythagoras. They do not know of his life. Ironically he’s still maybe 1000000x more famous than Gilgamesh
>>743162034Introducedmetofate/10
>>743263651Same as Archimede.Good thing he was never a powerful servant in any of Fate's universes......oh wait.
>>743263623No, it doesn’t matter because it’s your head canon. Especially in this post you just now made. Fame is never stated to be nerfing Cu in the original VN. That is something Rin thought up. Rin is wrong. The actual canon reason Cu was nerfed is because of Kirei’s command spell. You are parroting old fan head canon, very similar to not understanding what EX means. (It’s stronger than A+, it’s not variable power)
>>743205548Been a while and I never watched those last episodes that came out after it aired but I remember liking it.Was nice to see Hakuno and Nero together
/v/ do you like Enkidu?
>>743263562I'm not posting the script of the entirety of Ooku here just to prove how retarded you are, and you should know better than anyone else that Gil exists to job in FSN>Fate: Loses to Artoria who got Avalon back, fair enough, servant vs servant, both at their peaks, honorable defeat>UBW: Loses to a fucking autistic ginger with a scabbard up his ass, and all the scabbard really does is allow the autistic ginger to recreate what's essentially a far inferior version of Gilgamesh's GoB and he gets outskilled regardless>HF: dies OFFSCREEN
>>743263475And the title is all people know. They don’t know the actual legend. It’s like how everyone knows you’re retarded inbred but they don’t know the history of your mother exactly >oh it’s that retard with the whore mother Doesn’t mean they know you’re a diaper fetishist who uses the internet too much
>>743263829>If the stage of this Holy Grail War were anywhere but Japan, he would be a shining existence on par with Heracles and King Arthur. From Fate/Side Material, not Rin.>Diarmuid received more backup from his Master (magical energy supply), thus in terms of pure firepower, Diarmuid was stronger. In Japan, both of them received 0 geographical boost (from the cultural sphere), but if the stage was in Ireland --- Cu Chulainn would have an edge.From Nasu when asked who would win between Cu and Diarmuid.
>>743263910He makes me uncomfortable/10.
>>743264014Neither of these are compiled from actual sources. You are parroting fan headcanon
"Gilgamesh canonically gets BTFO by Enkidu in bed as well. " https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/513690081/#513704279 WAIT WHAT?
>>743264112forgot the pic
>>743264007youtu.be/_UCEXWfdUDk?t=136Why do you think Kirei and, huh... Tokiomi? be so sure of victory if they didn't know they summoned the strongest servant?And yeah, they meant to summon Gilgamesh, inb4 you try to move the goalpost again.
>>743263917This isn’t really correct. But it’s not even about jobbing he just had a really poor showing in the VN>FateHe shows up to BTFO casted (+ aura) but then cryptically vaguepost about the 4th war (-aura) while also being a giant simp for saber who you already fucked at that point (-aura) then he fails to kill shirou and saber (-aura) then he loses to saber (-aura)It’s literally all down hill from his first moment
>>743264236Like every fucker pretends they summoned the strongest servant. Saber (not even Artoria, but the actual class) is called that a dozen times in the OG VN and then Artoria herself loses to a teacher
>>743261565good right up until Lostbelt 7 and everything afterwards is miserable filler followed by a dogshit ending. Hard to compare the 2 because at the very fucking least Extra and CCC didn't string me along for several years then put out a half hearted wet fart for an ending.
>>743264236You’re claiming someone is moving the goalposts while you are moving the goalposts. A clip from zero (the only fate property you’ve probably every consumed lmao) is completely irrelevant to what was being pointed out.There is a difference of “being aware something exists” and “knowing about it”. Gilgamesh himself and his tale isn’t actually known. People are just aware that it does exist.
>>743264073https://www.tmdict.com/en/ra.lancerHere's your last (You). Enjoy it.
>>743264442>Saber (not even Artoria, but the actual class) is called that a dozen times in the OG VN and then Artoria herself loses to a teacher...Saber has the most well-rounded stats... (yeah, stats. Like a RPG. Where do you think shit like Lancer's E-rank luck come from?)...Artoria isn't getting mana from Shitrou......The "teacher" was 1) empowered with Caster's enhancement spells and 2) a professional assassinJeez, just say you haven't read the VN. We know already.
>>743264626None of that is relevant, you are ESL and moving the goalposts. I am perfectly aware of why saber lost to kuzuki
>>743263910Why do the Japanese refuse to give characters noses?
>>743264598That is not a compiled source you retard.You basically linked a random BL post. You are aware niggas just posted shit right.
>>743263917Kasuga is practically dead and merged into pavarti when the story starts and the labyrinth was created by kama turning the physical ooku into a conceptual domain. Something you would know if you'd actually read it.Given that it's a conceptual domain that belongs to the kasuga of legend it would stand to reason that once she transcends her mortal she'll and becomes the kasuga from the throne she would gain at least some dominion over a conceptual domain that should be rightfully hers which is why she'd be able to do something like restore gravity to it.You're so completely off base about F/SN that it betrays your lack of literacy.
>>743264974I mean you could have just pointed out gil dies on screen in a Sakura interlude in HF but I don’t think you read the VN either
>>743264007The title of the story and the name gilgamesh, which is on par with king Arthur and Alexander the great in the minds of the average person. The average person is fucking retarded. The Odyssey is required reading in schools and the average person doesnt know who fucking Odysseus is. You can not use people's real world knowledge of historical and mythological events as the basis for what you believe should be the power scaling in this fictional setting or fucking everyone is angry manjew tier.
Are any of you die hard FSN fan? Did you like how Extra handled Emiya and Tohsaka?
>>743265346Not gonna bother with your entire babble, but>The Odyssey is required reading in schoolsFalse.
>>743265346>which is on par with king Arthur and Alexander the great in the minds of the average person. That’s simply not true. I am being lenient here. In actuality most people don’t even know about the epic at all. You’re going to find far more people that know King Arthur or Alexander >You can not use people's real world knowledge of historical and mythological events as the basis for what you believe should be the power scaling in this fictional setting or fucking everyone is angry manjew tier.I agree as does Nasu and the various other fate writers besides Higashide because they in fact do not take fame into account because fame in fact never comes up in the fictional setting.
>>743265072Or I could just skip over the f/sn stuff because it's clear this guy just gets everything from tiktok and youtube shorts.Guy isn't even a secondary because if he was he'd know the movie adapted that interlude.
>>743263910I don't reaaaally care about him but his relationship with Gil was intersting. I don't really feel like there's much to say about him though. In Strange Fake for example he doesn't do much. I mean he has some cool feats don't get me wrong but in terms of writing he isn't interesting imo. His personality is just being strong and being seen as a friend by Gil. Eventually he has the "I'm a weapon" thing going on but that's all
>>743264974Angra and Gil are both examples of the actual point though What determines if a servant is strong is how strong were they in Fate’s version of their “real life”. In short: what the writer wants. There isn’t some rule. Gilgamesh isn’t strong because he’s le famous hero and the blueprint for all le heroes. He’s strong best in Fate, his real self was that strong.Angra is the same, he’s weak because he was weak in his real life. When he’s almost the opposite of Gil. He’s the blueprint for all villains, he’s literally the basis for one of the most famous concepts in all of human history: the devil, Satan, etc whatever you want to call him. If perception and fame shaped a servant, Angra would have been strong as a servant.
>>743265516My bad, if you're in a first world country it's required reading.
>>743262583you bodied those gil freaks with this one, dayum
>>743265556Most people are given at least a brief overview of Mesopotamian history in school so the name will come up even if they know nothing beyond it. Which is the same for Alexander as unless you're Greek or Macedonian that Greek history is going to be largely glossed over in your required studies with any kind of in depth study being left for those who pursue higher education. The name Arthur and the concept of there being an associated round table are really only known due cultural legacy in the anglosphere. The average person couldn't tell you dick about the actual legend.
>>743266362>The average person couldn't tell you dick about the actual legend.Merlin Sword in the stoneHoly grailBlack knight and Lancelot maybe That’s quite literally infinitely more than gil in which MAYBE >enkiduAnd that’s because of series like fate and final fantasy
>>743264546Gilgamesh isn't strong because of the fame boost, he is strong because he is the oldest hero anyone remembers and older=stronger because magic (magecraft) was stronger in his time. Fame is only ever a boost and never a nerf.
>>743266576You are vastly overestimating the capabilities of the average person. The average brit doesn't know anything beyond the fact that his name was Arthur and that he was a king and that's in the homeland of the story.
>>743266616>older=stronger because magic (magecraft) was stronger in his timeThis is more of a trend and also not an actual rule. Angra is old as shit and weak as shit.What makes a servant strong is “how strong they were in their real life as told by Fate”. Yes in general the older servants are stronger because of this reason.
If you're on 4chan and posting in a nasuverse thread you're more autistic than the average bear and can't use your own knowledge base or the knowledge base of your autistic friends as a barometer
>>743266761No, I’m really not. This is a dead end. More people know King Arthur, Caesar, Alexander, Attila, etc than fucking Gilgamesh. Like you’re just replying to be a faggot. You don’t even believe what you’re typing.If you had to find people on the street and asked them about King Arthur more people would bring up one of Merlin, the sword in the stone, excalibur than give you facts about Gilgamesh and enkidu fighting the humbaba. You’d starve to death before a single fag name drops the humbaba
>>743266905The thing is, I have taken this to account but yes it is pretty autistic to expect another autist that no, average joes do not in fact know about Ishtar and the bull of heaven but they do know about the round table
To be honest, the average person is retarded and if it wasn't for shit like Fate itself they probably would have never even heard of Arthur(same with all of the other historical/mythological shit). Doubly so with the ongoing efforts in the west to rewrite history. Shit like Fate and SMT do more for preserving myth and history than anything in the west has since the The Sword in The Stone Movie from 63.
>>743267074Nigger my argument is that the average person doesnt know dick about anything. If the average person doesnt know shit about Alexander or Arthur they're not going to know anything beyond the name gilgamesh. You'll be lucky if anyone who isn't a map painting or historyfag knows about Atilla cause nobody gives enough shits about the hunt to include it in a school curriculum.The average person is fucking stupid and can tell you more about the life of tay-tay than their own country's founding.
>>743267146No they know of a round table, but that's the extent of it. They couldn't tell you what it was for or where it was located. Hell half might not even be able to tell you who it belonged to.
>>743267485You don’t have an argument. You’re just being a disingenuous retard. No, more people do not know of gil and the humbaba than King Arthur and the round table
>>743268490You're actually an illiterate retard
>>743268549Keep farming your fucking izzat newfag
>>743268549See>>743267074This is a dead end You can move the goalposts and seethe like an absolute retard but more people do not know the humbaba and Gilgamesh than King Arthur and the sword in the stone Simple as
>>743269101Dog that anon was never arguing that Jesus Christ is this an absolute clown show and you've made the the same post like 6 times like an asspained newfag.Shit ain't that serious.
>>743269467>that anon Hey newsflash newfaggot subhuman, this site is slow as shit now because of third world retards like you.Never argued? You always argued this retarded shit and are just damage controlling because it’s a dead fucking end, kind of like your own life Braindead dipshit’s only form of “social interaction” is repeatedly getting shit on. Kill yourself
>>743269668sure dude, go seethe on reddit or something idk
>>743162034How the fuck does a remake of a psp game take so long but Samurai Remnant along with its DLC was able to be completed?
>>743269921Newfaggot trash, kill yourself
>>743270142you're an actual unhinged schizo
>>743269994Because nu-fate is the new modern standard.
It mostly sucked. The setting was too limited, and the rock paper scissors gameplay was too tedious. It took me a little over a decade to beat it. I only stuck with it because I liked Tamamo so much.
How old is Nasu again? I don't think we're getting the conclusion to Extella's storyline unless he shoves it into the gacha.
>>743254205>there's no reason to play as the other four once you unlock itThere is if you play on higher difficulties.
is redline still ongoing? there’s no way it is
>>743270582In his early 50s, so plenty of years ahead of him still unless he just keels over. The bigger issue is just how he tends to lose interest in projects and put them on the backburner for years and years.
>>743271026>In his early 50s,So he was like 30 when he wrote FS/N? A little old to be writing teen romances.
>>743271441FS/N proper was like the 3rd or 4th iteration of it, he wrote and rewrote it over and over since high school. A lot of the scrapped ideas for it's early versions ended up elsewhere, like recycling parts of a scraped heroine in the form of Mashu.
>>743271986for reference
Can't they just fuckin all Pocketpair to publish Record instead of lobbying for dogshit DEI infested corporations?
>>743272742*ask
>>743162034You don't even deserve a rating for being rock paper scissors but mining the opponent pattern
>>743271441>So he was like 30 when he wrote FS/N? A little old to be writing teen romances.Do you know many teenagers writing teen romance and being successful to the point of being published or something? Do you know many guys in their early twenties doing something like this too?
>>743271441How old are you?
>>743162034Isn't it best to just turn on cheats through the emulator, get the story and then move onto the better CCC?
>>743273837Only if you are brown and soulless.
>>743273837No. They're still games and sometimes you have to write down stuff the old way. I liked Extra and CCC but Extra is more tedious since it's more punishing. But they're quite easy
>>743273837Yes
>>743273837write or type down enemy patterns like a man bitch
>>743273837Play it normally like any other game.
