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Didn't see a relink bread in the 'log.
I'm two years late to the party, starting soon...
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I'm doing quick matches bwos it's fun
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>>743188209
Buy an ad
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>>743188209
I played this game when it was dying off and only really beat the story mode and hard stopped there like a year ago I think.
How easy do you think the dlc is to get into for a guy like me?
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>>743188786
they purposefully made the dlcs faster to get into with the conflux.
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>>743188786
just play the fuarking game nigga
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>>743188786
It's the ideal time to get into it with multiplayer actually being alive again, plus Conflux makes it really easy to catch up
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>>743188209
F
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I claim all harvin women as my wife.
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infinity world was hella fun
having to hit pblock was very satisfying
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slop
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>>743188786
Just play the game
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Best quest to farm msp in chaos?
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>got my damage cap up to level 65
>still capping

so what else can i do?
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>>743190060
Summons, masteries, MORE dmg cap skills
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>>743188209
I pirated the game in the beginning and its just a low effort scam game with extremely lazy level design, an advertisement for the gacha game.

These companies are so stupid, instead of building a good platform for PC/consoles so you can endlessly scam retard gacha addicts, they made the most half ass slop possible. This is worse than monster hunter in terms of scamming retards, its so shallow.

you have to be low IQ and brown to like this.
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>>743190007
Slimes pubs
Skeleton offline
You can get him down in around two minutes with semi built AI
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>Rank Perk 2: Upon landing Arvess Hammer, pressing Normal Attack with perfect timing launches Zeta into a high jump.
I can't get the timing. it works 40% of the time.
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What master trait tree should I go for Cag?
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I'm about to just play support Cog just to fucking shield these retards I'm stuck with holy shit build some HP
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>>743190483
Just build up your AI companions and play solo.
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>>743190360
You don't spam your Hammer input. The game will take that as your attempt to reset the loop.
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>>743190360
Got her unique sigil? It actually helps with the timing. Once you get it down though you got it for good.
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why does the combat in this game feel so slow and sluggish
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>>743190614
The lone Ghandagoza main...
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>Thought Cag's Shield mastery skill was just gonna be a little extra effective HP
>Try it out
>99,999 shield
What the fug.
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>>743190675
That's a fantastic mastery to chase after, sadly what FEW cags i have seen dont use it. They all go for collapse.
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>>743190664
I have been playing fraux and fediel akshually. Idk maybe my standards for action games is just too high but the characters seem very one dimensional and slow gameplay wise. Still early on in the game so maybe it gets better
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>>743190664
I haven't seen a single ghonda yet....
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what I am in for
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Are Terminus weapons still best?
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>>743190060
get caps from your masteries, weapons have em, your mastery tree gets expanded at master level 50, your master traits also have lots of em. get the master trait that gives you damage cap from basic sigils and put some stun power + dmg cap sigils in your build. farm infinity summons like rolan, bubz and lilith, these can roll 100% normal or skill cap up
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>>743191048
A 4 minute fight if a competent Mastery lvl 50 is in your team.
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>>743191081
The meta I think is still being debated but right now its either ascension if you want the extra safety or terminus for ~10-15% dmg boost
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Max level/MP on character unlock is proud or maniac? I forget
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>>743191048
Not knowing what the fuck is going on when Paradise Lost goes off
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>>743191048
Weirdly easier than normal luci assuming your gear is on par
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>>743191304
I never did normal luci so wish me luck
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>>743191304
So new luci is easier than when old luci came out?
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>>743191304
to be fair, endgame players are used to base luci at this point so this is a mild extension
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I've reached ML 30 with Bea.
I'm having fun, but she's absolutely miserable when not in DC.
I want to try an Insight build and fit as many skill CDs as possible.
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>>743191473
We got a large power boost in ER and Chaos++ luci doesn't have the triple labor phase so less chance of someone fucking that up and getting everyone HP cut. Infinity luci though is a different beast. Haven't done it myself since I still need to gear but he can hp cut on certain attacks now and I think people are calling him the hardest infinity fight
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>>743191081
You can't pay me enough to take a health cut.
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>>743191081
Yes. And since potions heal fixed amounts now it's better to stack Defense than HP. Just below 200K HP feels just right.
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Song awakens my most primal instincts.
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I LOVE SILVER CENTRUMS AND FORTITUDE CRYSTALS
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>>743191215
I had no idea what to do about that or The End and we lost right away
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>>743188209
How do I even start the new dlc content? I got the cutscene to add magliele to my party but there's some quest pointer saying finish Rolands work and I don't remember what that is.
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>>743192049
Up your Stun, anon. Now that you know what to expect, blitz him immediately and ignore the swords.
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>>743192049
Oh right you don't have sandalphon going full tutorial on you for this fight. You need to link attack stun him or SBA him whenever he channels like that
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Is Cagliostro underpowered, or am I just not investing in the right mastery tree?
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Mag seems underwhelming or I'm just playing her wrong, and when you start holding triangle for the combo finisher at the same time when the enemy jumps out of the way, the aiming reticle controls are inverted and can make the camera go wild if you don't cancel it right away
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>>743192295
Nigga she might be the best character in the game
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>>743192406
Sadly she isn't the strongest damage wise
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>>743192432
Ok, so what am I doing wrong? What is the meta tree?
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>>743192432
Then why have I only seen ONE so far
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>>743188786
Sex with right
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>>743192474
>>743192432
Anon probably meant she is one of the best in terms of buffing/healing. Her medic tree is absolutely fantastic. Most people seem to build her collapse tree though for damage.
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>>743192451
She is my AI party member, I just had to give her a try and use her in a few missions to unlock her awakening weapon
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>game actually says the name you choose for yourself like the old final fantasy games
this is a sign its going to be good
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>>743188209
What are some of the essential DLCs for this I should pick up on Steam?
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>>743191540
Go yellow buff and do fully charged Embrasque Sword skill, you get some Sturdy Body in the yellow buff and at max charge that skill feeds a lot of juice to your clock.
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Have you gotten your sigils synthesized?
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>>743192545
Medic master trait seems so ass outside of Phantasmagoria giving the 50% cap up.
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>>743192406
She's good, you just need to get used to controlling the finishers. Only the last one is somewhat tricky to control. You build up the gauge then turn into a blade shooting mini gun which is even better in link time.
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>>743192768
yeah let me just pull out my lv15 spartan echo rolan summon stone with 100% normal cap up
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>>743190467
Anyone?
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>>743192926
You've had several people gushing about the shield tree since your post, Anon.
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>>743192990
You don't even need to be in the Medic tree to get the shield. You can just pick it while in the other 2 damaging master trees.
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So is Song's gameplay just building stacks and holding multihit?
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>>743192807
SHIELDS NIGGA. SHIELDS.
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>>743193094
See:
>>743193051
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>>743188209
I love running into Mag players, the smug smile she flashes during SBA brightens my day. I'll have to build her up once I'm done with my main.
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>>743192853
What do you mean you don't already have spartan/berserker/war elemental/stout heart summons with 100% dmg cap?
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are summons bad

why doesn’t anyone summon anything
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Playing Dancho full support is great
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Do I really have to savescum Transmarvel to get my character exclusive + sigils?
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>>743193284
Because it breaks the flow of things
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>>743193320
you can get them from level 3 transmute too
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>>743193352
but is it a gain to use it?
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>>743193134
I meant as in I have her full medic tree maxed out and it's worth it. She's fantastic as a healer/buffer.
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>>743193403
Of course brings big impact when you remember it's there
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If I get a fediel ML 50, I quit.
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>>743193051
i wonder if not having maxed alchemedic still works with ventus or if ventus checks if reinforce would heal first before reinforce checks for overheal
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>>743193498
Why? She's a hard carry
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>>743191048
heres the chaos++ luci experience
>narmaya inspects the floor while paradise lost goes off due to still using a terminus weapon this late
>fight starts proper and nobody hits faa to break his focus
>ZA
>ENDO
>QUEST FAILED
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>>743193552
She takes away all the fun, that build is beyond busted.
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>>743193585
Retard
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Dumb question but do I need to be a certain crux rank to get the benefits/use that said crux? Like I pick a crux level 2 skill while only being level one will it work or not?
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>>743192760
How weak is her DPS anon?
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Ok but what about CPU companion Cag? What's the best master trait tree in that case?
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>>743193576
What is FAA i haven't made it to luci yet but i'd like to know for future reference.
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>>743193576
I legit have no idea what I am doing in this fight. Most of the fights are readable but this is just aoevomit everywhere and I think I kinda hate it
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>>743193763
his jp name is lucifaa so its what people call him out of habit
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>>743193905
No surprise. The fight is just visual vomit with aoe spam.
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you didnt beat the game if you played solo with AI
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>>743194240
That's easy mode though
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>>743193747
Probably the medic for CPU.
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>>743194261
even easier than getting carried by onlines who are far past you in level?
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>>743193635
Obviously not, anon. I don't know why the game still let's you select them though. Cygames just lazy.
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>>743194298
i wonder if the cpu actually uses the rez properly
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>>743194392
Yeah, play the game STUPID
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It's crazy how many shitters there's now compared to day 1 and 2.
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>>743188209
I thought that was Oblivion from the thumbnail
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>>743194436
They save it to resurrect people, they wont spam it for phantasmagoria
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Bea anons. Do I stay in yellow all fight until the boss is down or link time then go to red, then use green afterwards? What's the proper way to go about this? I REALLY want to like her but I am unsure of how to go about playing her.
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I'm at the endgame of ER, can I just blow all my azurite splendors buying up ambrosia? I can't even remember what you needed them for.
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>>743195032
they max out sigils in one go which is generally still useful
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Now that I'm used to being invincible for half the fight, having a free gap closer and only needing to spam combo enders as the spud I can't play anyone else.
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Should I cop the game now or wait for it to go on sale? I just checked and it seems they dropped the price, but I wonder if that means it'll be a while before it goes on sale...
Online play mostly doesn't matter, I'm going to play with friends
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>>743194684
If you have stout heart+steel nerves/(+)stronghold you can just stay in red.
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Put her in
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>>743195091
I love not having to think about what I'm doing in a fight.
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The fact that the passives that boost your stats based on different types of sigils only count if if the first on the stat is unbelievably fucking stupid and I'm mad at those gook niggers and their ability to design shit properly.
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>>743195769
Beatrix gaming
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>>743190275
Which skelly?
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>>743195769
If the ball had pushed you out of the ring again it would had been perfect
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>>743195643
Put in her.
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does she actually do this kinda damage or is this just someone cheating
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>>743188209
My brain is small and smooth. Which character should I grab with my first card to learn the game?
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>>743196179
>>My brain is small and smooth.
Welcome fellow Charlotta player. You'll fit right in.
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>>743196178
Its not levels of pre nerf light step Sandalphon but yeah, she is busted
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>>743196178
She's just that busted, especially if they have all of their master break levels.
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>>743196178
Probably cheating.
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>>743191981
Nice picture. She is my favourite and one of the main reasons I got this game
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>>743196178
she does that kind of damage, especially on fights where the boss doesn't go into its arbitrary im invincible dodge my aoes phase
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so cog and maggie are the best ai supports but who are the best ai dps?
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>>743196325
I think I remember someone saying one of the homo knights is really good now.
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>>743196325
You're probably better off with more supports that buff you to the moon or provide you with utility to keep attacking. A tank sieg AI takes so much pressure off you between his debuff immunity and eating damage for you.
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>>743195557
But my is so damn full of dmg caps.... and my summons dont have that shit either.
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>>743188209
What's her fucking problem?
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I'm just kinda impressed GBF is still clinging to life. It stopped being the hot thing for almost a decade now.
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>>743195557
>>743196442
How bad is her damage compared to others? Some anons seem to think she's bad.
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>>743191124
Anywhere specific to get Stun Power + Dam Cap Sigils or do I just pray to the RNGods?
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>>743196823
She feels clunky most of the time.
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Chaos+ ice wolf is pure cancer
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>>743191981
I want to lick her ankles, to be perfectly honest.
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>>743196325
Siegfried is just a gorilla, he requires no thought so the AI fucks with him
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>>743196692
Shotas don't last very long.
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>>743197130
does the AI actually do perfect inputs?
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>>743188209
But is it fun? I really wanna get it but I never played anything in the series
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>>743197195
Yes
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>>743197207
try the demo
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>>743197049
Start fusing bro unless you are extremely unlucky you can usually get it within 5
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>>743197162
Shota dick can't be THAT good.
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>>743196325
I'd say Io but I don't know the actual math
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>>743188209
>playerbase is over 3/4 chinese
kek
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weirdo
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>>743196756
Requires no budget to be kept alive, so long as a few whales cling to it no reason to kill it
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>>743197207
Bit of a slog between finishing the story and getting to proud where the actually fun bosses are but with the roguelike mode this part is sped up
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>>743188209
Censoredslop
No panties No buy
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My master of relink title doesn't feel special anymore... the new ones look really cool.
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Can someone give me a bea level explanation on how to play bea and how to manage the clock? Please?
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>>743188209
hijacking this thread are there any recent anime games with good action combat ? preferably one that isnt a gacha or genshin clone
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>>743198452
Granblue Fantasy: Relink
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>>743197580
I love Cagliostro.
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>>743198498
i just checked a youtube video f gameplay and it looks like a gneshin clone . got anythin else ?
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I have been fighting luci with randoms for the last 2 hours without a win
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>>743198643
It's not a genshin clone. It has actual gameplay. Maybe you should go find another thread to ask this question in.
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>>743192451
I’m tempted to download that parse mod to see my damage as maggy, getting my stars for M50 but I’m seeing my bladedance reach 100k supp damage and sometimes 170k supp damage during link time (this with both echos and supp sigils) so I feel like I’m doing good damage during fights
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>>743198384
Essentially...

Have a Summon with Stout Heart? Stay in Red and with a Steel Nerve and Garrison Sigil on her.

No summon with Stout Heart? Stay in Yellow until big damage window and then switch to red.
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>>743198802
where do you get a summon like that
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>>743198643
i have no idea what you mean by a genshin clone. did you want like an anime shooter or what
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>>743199102
I got it on the Ice Wolf summon (tier 3). Probably got lucky. I think most rolls are RNG?
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>>743198802
How exactly does stout heart help with staying in red? Dont you still take damage?
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>>743199102
got mine from the quest: So the Myths are Real, gotten three of them but none with damage cap
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>>743198452
Stranger of paradise now piss off
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>>743199415
thanks
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Fucking LOVE This FUCKING GAME LADS
WHAT THE FUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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just had a crazy glitch vs the world.
we did a team super at 80% lifebar 2 but the bahamut video didn't load for one of the players.
this caused the world to stand there and let us do the remaining 80%.
however he wouldn't die, I so unplugged the ethernet wire to test. (I was host)
this caused him to immediately explode on my end, while the other player had his hp roll back to 80% and had to play with bots. (he still won in the end)
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I wanna fight him here
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Getting real tired of console shitters ruining my Luci runs. Just stop dying. I can't help you. 5th run and every time a console player runs out the critical gauge solo. I never noticed it being this bad until I got to Luci.
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>>743196129
Chaos++ myths are real
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>>743188209
redpill me on this game
the loli is cute
I like monster hunter btw
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>>743197302
Io still hard casts SG sometimes, and hard casts Flowery most of the time.
She's a great debuffer though with essence
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Can someone tell me why the sigil trails in the filter aren't in alphabetical order

I'm gonna fucking lose it
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>>743199893
I'm in the same boat. It's a huge increase in difficulty over the previous fights
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is drain capped really low despite the patch notes?
I am playing vane unga bungaing with defender into ascension, got all my damage caps exceeded. Even with 45 drain AND vanes mastery perk that raises the drain cap and adds 20% drain to combo finishers it is underwhelming compared to just having a single regen sigil slotted in.

Regen appears to scale off the new fuckhuge HP pool with no cap ~14k hp a tick whereas the drain numbers are in the 1000s, nowhere close the 5% of the damage I am putting out and not worth slotting imo even with vanes mastery leaning into it.
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finished all C++ quests.
Going back through C++ to S++ every mission. Of course only a few, the heavy bosses.
S++ the world after a few tries.
No stuck on Beezbub by absolute shitters.
Still chinese PC players
Still sandy (PC) 45k health shitters.
Even found a (PC)shitter albacore sticker spam team.

Is it really just turn PC off to find good randoms?
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Is Siete's max gauge skill a meme
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Think we'll get more end endgame content? At Mastery 50+5 and good Sigil loadout the Defy Infinity bosses are a joke
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>>743200137
It is not even that hard. Absolute Zero is the hardest part but it only happens once.
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>>743200183
>is drain capped really low despite the patch notes?
tl:dr but from what I can tell it is useless.
idk the % but it was good for unga bunagas to keep alive while shout heard.
Now they have divergence but its just regen, which was always useless and it was on a 1% regen divergence 32%,,,
Seems its all useless BUT if you put them all together, might be worth it.
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>>743200610
What is a good sigil load out
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>>743200641
Tell that to the randoms
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>>743200610
Yes, we will get Defy Infinity albacore and crab and pyet-a
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>>743200832
>pyet-a
Yes pleaae.
Bring back his original music, and actually make his element switch phases worth engaging with.
Love that fight
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>>743200374
all the nipponese players are on console but they can also be tards

i assume by default that all the pc players at end game (especially the chinkoids) probably cheated in sigils and stuff to get there and are actually turboshitters
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>>743200881
on my no sigil run of vanilla relink, pyet-a was a ton of fun as a boss fight and actually was a threat
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>blaming console players
why are pctards like this?
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>>743199354
Yellow gives you stout heart, so if you have a summon with it you don't need to stay on yellow for easier uptime.
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Is the trait on a summon party-wide? Does it take effect only when the summon is used?
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For real though how long until they nerf Fediel?
She's already making online unfun and it will only get worse once more people start realizing and build her too
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>>743201010
If I remember right, it applies to everyone in single player, but in multi-player only your summons (even the ones you can't use) affect you. The traits are always active.
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>>743201056
never
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>>743200979
I went in under geared my first time and had the same experience.
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>>743201001
So how do I mitigate the autodamage?
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when I do conflux there is an option after bosses to leave the conflux
is there a reason/benefit to, like can I get certain reward sets by doing the bare minimum? or do I always want to see the whole thing through?
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Remember newfriends. You have a block button. Use it if you keep dying and can't figure out why.
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>>743201193
You simply live with it, the auto-damage isn't particularly big in the first place. But if you're really troubled you can swap to green for regen, take some sigils to heal yourself with, or make someone else heal you.
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>>743201196
The numbers you see when entering assume you finish the entire thing.
If you leave in the first portal cut the numbers by 1/4 for Conflux 5, and add an additional 1/4 for each boss cleared.
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Is war Elemental still usefull?
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>>743201265
Does regen stack with the green clock or just does the same?
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>>743201056
only tards try to min min/max and only play the best in this game, its why you see her so much.
Those tards will die off soon enough, probably before they nefr her.
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>>743201324
It's 20% more damage added on to the end of everything else (if the enemy isn't already weak to your element). It's still excellent.
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>>743201324
Why would it not be?
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sex with Erune women
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>excited at all of the new possibilities that mastery styles/perks+summons (for their sigils) enable
>suffer massive choice paralysis
I don't know who I want to play. I just keep grinding materials to beef up a new character, craft their build and then immediately get FOMO that I might have more fun playing a different character, rinse, repeat. Loving fraux but I'm afraid her stance switching is a bit too big brain for me, I've just been mashing X and then start mashing Y when I notice her animation is reaching the end of the string. I've been hearing that beatrix can facetank just about anything but that isn't possible until later in ER so currently she just feels really simple. Tried getting into tweyen but now that the meta has shifted so much with ER I don't know how to build her, two-crown boundary is basically dead since the new meta is high HP, plus any sort of debuff immunity just irrevocably gimps her and I never liked having to hug bosses just to get her spray finisher to hit optimally. My main was zeta, her gameplay was always so much fun, but I have no idea how ER has affected her, I haven't really heard anyone talking about her. I was interested in Feidel but I hate her combat style, and her exploit is super fucking lame, not interested in resorting to gay shit like that but if I bring her into rooms people are gonna be expecting it.
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>>743201453
produce no children.
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>>743201417
I dunno, not at endgame yet, thought maybe something else will be introduced that might be better?
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>>743201348
It does stack, but the base regen from green is fucking massive compared to sigil. I think it's somewhere around 8.5% HP regen when the sigil maxes at 5%.
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>Trying to clear The World for the first time
>Fight goes on a long time, everyone seems out of heals and revives
>SBA chain him but it's not enough to kill
>All of a sudden everyone has full SBA again and Seofon starts another chain
Okay Seofon users I kneel, that shit is kino af
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Tell me who you want, with the specific exception, of the fact that they might have something unique that gets them in
>two eternals
>one evoker
>one dragon
>supreme primarch
Vampy could be the ROB representative.
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>>743201453
Lobelia
*click*
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>>743201526
Unfortunately, not only is the build options for meta play limited like before the DLC, its also so limited by the mandatory new sigils t just fucks the whole shit up.

Everyone needs WE
Everyone needs 4 damage cap sigils...list goes on.
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>>743201348
>>743201620
I should also mention that the auto-damage from red is absolutely pitiful. Bea with 175k HP and level 6 Regen (a tiny 1.1% regen) from Embrasque Sword can outheal the self-damage from red since regen ticks about twice as often as the self-damage. You don't really need to worry about the self-damage from red at all.
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>>743201674
never doubt your friendly neighborhood schizo
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>>743201479
That's basically the endgame, right? You're just clearing the hardest content with one character and once you're done with that you rotate to the next one if it becomes boring.
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>>743200648
>Now they have divergence but its just regen, which was always useless
I mean what with potions being heavily nerfed and hp pools ballooning. These two are less useless than before for sure.
Green potions heal 45k hp. Just swapping out the drain sigils I was trying to force with regen ones. I am getting around 40k hp every tick - 1.5 seconds or so, a free green potion.
That's a whole fuck load better anything drain is doing for you if your goal is to facetank and it's a mystery to me why they would hard limit the active healing but have no cap for the passive one.
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>>743201762
bampi
monke
rrat
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>>743201835
Not even mentioning now not only are you limited by the sigils on your build you're also limited on which is the 1st sigil on your V+ sigils. Thank you devs for not fixing the dog shit sigil synthesis system.
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>>743201762
Zooey
>something unique that gets them in
A shield (sword an board)
It is a no brainer,one of the only archetype weapon styles not represented.
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>>743201762
Incorrect. ENTER
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how's narmaya and charlotta looking?
I played them in base relink and had lots of fun
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>>743201835
difference being you can get WE or stout heart on a summon now, which makes things a lot better
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does npc io full charge her mystic orbs?
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>>743201952
God i would play the fuck out of Zooey and i wouldn't even care if she was bad or not
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>>743201887
So i can just have one regen sigil? Awesome
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>>743201981
Charlotta is still stupidly good, only thing she lost is damage on the flippy spin, instead it's on the plunge. Her Warpath sigil is a wonder of the world since it lets her immediately go into her enhanced swings after flipping around. Then she has a Master Trait that makes Noble Stance always active so you don't need her Warpath sigil or her skills.
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How far does the unlocking of new masteries go when you get past master trait level 50?
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>>743201674
Lobby... doko!
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>>743202162
very, very far.
hope you liked slimepede
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>>743201949
THIS

>>743201992
>which makes things a lot better
Not really.
SH, sure beacuase SH doesnt have a+ but then you give SH to the entire AI team and they dint need it, Its only good the player character, whicn in SH case that does mean a 1+ slot from another V+ sigil.
WE on summons on the other hand means a -1 sigil V+ slot from every character.
Though what you could replace it with makes it use.
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>>743201949
What wait? Please explain this.
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>>743202186
koko
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>>743201930
How much regen are you stacking? I put some drain on (3%) for my fediel build but it felt p miniscule even with how much damage she shits out
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>>743202051
same
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>>743202245
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After they based Bubs entire fight around his Versus moveset I really want to see what they would do with a Versusia fight.
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>>743202245
Every character has a passive in their master trait trees that give them +20%(actually it's +40% cause there's 2 and they stack) damage cap for every basic stat sigil you have meaning ATK, HP and Stun but this only counts if it's the 1st trait and not the 2nd. I'm REALLY hoping this is a bug that they'll patch and not an intended feature because holy fucking shit is it stupid in how it's designed.
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>>743202398
Make her playable instead. I want.more big women
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>>743202398
I still find it really funny that the first time we see danchou's mom it's her as a 13 year old girl.
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>>743202208
>WE on summons on the other hand means a -1 sigil V+ slot from every character.
it.. doesnt? summons dont have more than 1 trait. there isnt a single sigil in the game other than stout heart that doesnt have a + version so you're always "losing" a V+ slot.
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>>743192641
use creamapi to get all of them including the expansion
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>>743201479
>My main was zeta, her gameplay was always so much fun, but I have no idea how ER has affected her, I haven't really heard anyone talking about her.
Heard an anon say she can reset the CD on her paralysis skill and get a lot out of it, sounds pretty sick to me
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>>743202349
This was me just testing so I went all the way to 45 with divergence too. so 7% hp a tick + status heal. (using asc/defender so hp pool in the 400k range)
Not saying its worth the slots but it is just so much better than drain even on vane who has a mastery tree buffing drain.
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>>743202245
red sigils give ATK%, everyone has an excess of ATK so it's not tha good
white sigils give DMG cap 40%
blue/pink sigils give hp 10k and def 6%

sigil color depends on the 1st slot so that matters now
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Bea anons what mastery(s) should I go for?
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Why is the most boring playstyle ever conceived rewarded with amazing damage like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzNupFmwsvE
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>have to rename myself to DPS THE BOSS because niggas focsusing the weapons
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>>743202884
Kek that's a good idea actually
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is perfect guard just outclassed by perfect dodge? how good is sigil for it?
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>>743202939
Perfect Guarding doesn't interrupt your current action, so it's better for characters who need to hold down a button or lose damage. Like Ferry.
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>>743202572
>single sigil in the game other than stout heart that doesnt have a + version so you're always "losing" a V+ slot.
You are being a bit retarded.
WE is mandatory on all characters and only recently is the + version freely able to get, yet you are still limited by the trait it drops.
A WE on summons, WE needed for every char, means -1 (which is -2) sigil slots for everyone that can go elsewhere on whatever the build needs. Rather than having to work around whatever WE+ drops you get.

Get a WE on a summon with max normal or skill damage cap and its the litral best summon in the game. Regardless what the summon does (ideally a 1 cost summon that helps team utility.
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>>743201517
Don't treaten me with a good time
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gotta go do chores then sleep
catch ya tomorrow pewds
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>>743202856
i refuse to play like this even if it's super good. too lame
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>>743203124
The other way is stand in place and mashing square
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>>743202706
The Hungry for Devour one. At level 3, while you're in Devour Mode your gauge refills upon hit but eventually starts draining faster but overall it'll last longer.
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Whats the best character to play im im a non functional retard?
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So Stout Heart, War Elemental and then what? What other skills should I be looking to get on my summons?
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>the gunslinger is male
fffuuu
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>>743203335
Narumaya
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Wait. I thought they added an option to where you can hold X to attack to help with certain characters like lancelot or charlotta?
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>>743203396
If they did, please let me know. My thumb hurts from playing Charlotta too much.
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>>743203369
>he does shit damage
FFFFUUUU
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>>743203454
Ignore the need to do top damage, embrace comedy. Play Rackam and use Collateral Damage.
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>>743203396
>>743203441
Set holding X to turbo via steam controller settings if you're on PC.
Only problem is I need to change settings every time I play someone else.
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>>743203396
Steam by default lets you toggle turbo on and off of buttons.
You could have another button be toggle or me i use foot pedals.
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>>743196428
What's the AI Tank build for Sieg? I assume it's the substitute tree but he often seems to die for me in that mastery tree.
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>>743203489
Does it mess with other characters?
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Is Eustace just shit? I feel like I've got to be doing something wrong. My Eustace is much more built than my other characters but I do more damage with just about everyone else that I've built, even a half baked Ferry. I just unlocked MR30 and he finally started pulling ahead of a fucking MR20 support Gran with a weapon 4 stages behind his.
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I sigil selection feels more limited than pre endless ragnarok.
Celestial Lumen + Terra
Spartan/Berserker Echo
Character sigils (x2 if they that good)
Supplementary damage x 2
4 x ability sigils
damage cap x 3
War elemental
1 or 2 defensive sigils like aegis/greater aegis/improved dodge
The usual things for sustain and defensive, improved dodge, guts revive etc
I cant even fit quick charge on my percival without making massive concessions.
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Who do I play anons, cag or bea?
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>>743203587
You have summon slots, and DMG cap has less value than before. Taking celestial terra is a retard move anyway
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Is Rosetta still the worst character by a massive margin?
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how's playing as support in this game
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>>743203671
I just really hate how her attacks move her forward.
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>>743202856
Bosses aren't going to stand still for a whole minute.
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how to fraux?
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>>743203587
Enjoy your Expansion 2 where they introduce V++ sigils with 3 traits on them.
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>>743203768
build both meters - use high dmg skills - repeat
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>>743203674
Support Captain is busted if your team isn't completely retarded and every one of them get hit by a sweeping one shot attack at the same time
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>>743202856
well you have to spec for it.
its funny but the sephiroth plunge is balanced better than the spin. now the spin is only used for distance coverage and hitting bosses when the plunge can whiff.
stationary bosses or link timed bosses get absolutely fucked by the plunge.

>>743203124
its what they want charlotta players to do
spin didn't get nerfed, plunge got buffed through the roof
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>>743203587
>I sigil selection feels more limited than pre endless ragnarok.
Let's not forget that base relink had 3 updates that brought new sigils, no sigil synth at launch and the best sigils had insanely low drop rate.
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>>743201674
It was cool day 2 but now shit dies too fast, it never gets out of cooldown
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Is Luci doable with AI?
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>>743203798
>Playing danchou with 530k HP
>Hit Substitute
>Die in 5 seconds from everyone getting smashed
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>>743204301
Chaos++ Lucilius? Yeah absolutely. Defy Infinity Lucilius? lmao
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>>743204301
Which difficulty?
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>>743203639
Cag
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>>743203578
I picked him up recently, he gets better I think. Shotgun mastery is pretty self-explanatory, good damage and not too much risk other than having to be closer. Haven't tried the skill tree.

The crux tree however is where it gets crazy. After you get lv3 you can really do a lot of damage, only downside is it's tough to keep it since you lose all stacks on hit. Charge X slides to invuln give +1 stack though and that's really important.

The other big thing is that link attack, parry, and play with fire keep the lv3 buff but reload your bullets with lv4 bullets still, so you're blasting like crazy if you can line everything up
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Cag anons...I dont see her around anymore.
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>>743204526
I don't see Zeta's anymore either. But I still see a shitton of Song. Why is she so popular?
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>>743203671
Hell no. She's really good, she does good damage and she buffs like crazy which is useful now.

Worst character is probably lancelot
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>>743204526
she gives 50% dmg cap with one of her buffs now
literally the best support character
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>>743204574
As a Zeta player I can guess why. A lot of the top bosses now just will not stop teleporting and fucking up the pogo no matter what you do. So it can be disheartening when you are missing out on DPS because you can't cross the map when the boss teleports and have to restart the pogo combos.
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>>743203670
It's good on immortals like Vas and maybe Bea.
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I don't think I can play Song better than the AI.
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>join a random Infinity Versa quest
>3 Fediels absolutely rape it in under 4 fucking minutes
God damn
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>>743204718
Impossible. All you need to do is fire a max level multilock hail and you're already better than Song's shitty AI
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>>743204718
I doubt that the AI is beyond dog shit at playing Song. One of hte worst characters for the CPU to play as by far
>you now remember all those retards pre-ER calling her one of the best CPU companions cause she gets MVP
Never listen to retarded Youtube build makers.
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should I swap to the ascension weapon for Fediel? the skills dont look great on a glance
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>>743204705
Funny cause I switched off Narmaya to Zeta cause of this exact reason. Probably gonna go to Bea now or even Eustace cause fuck it.
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me and my friend are duoing and each raising an AI so one person doesnt have to make the whole team

what AI should I use? I know the old meta, but I'm not sure how much it applies now. I've been using Eustace and Maglielle just cause I want to play them eventually, but who else is good? Is a buff stacking character useful? I assume Cags still the god of AI?
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Has anyone tried the collateral damage(crux) tree for Rackam? I'm wondering if its even remotely viable or if they really just dedicated an entire mastery to a meme.
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>>743204869
>>743204931
She does her job in full assist mode. The problem is that her attacks move her back so she ends up out of range.
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>>743204996
Apparently Bea has low DPS because of Clock management. The best DLC character by far is Fediel.
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>>743205042
seig does perfect executions all day now. Has an incredible stun skill and can give you loads of damage cut and drain/debuff immunity. Him and cag imo
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>>743205042
I'm still using Cag/Eugen/Sandalphon
Might switch Sandalphon to Yoda.
I play Sieg so I dunno what to use really, I'm sure people will be testing AI capabilities once people get decked out endgame setups.
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>>743194684
Yellow most of the time. Red during SBA/Link Time. Green during "the floor is lava" segments if your HP isn't 100%
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>>743205058
It probably works but they most definitely did it for the memes.
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>>743205145
idk about how low bea's dps is typically, but as a bea main, i can confirm that using bea is like juggling chainsaws with one hand, writing a novel with the other, while reading mathematics equations on a chalkboard.
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>>743205042
get sieg, he has excellent support and shits out damage
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Bros does sandalphon do fucking dogshit damage or is he alright
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>failed Bub's stun check
PUT STUN IN YOUR FUCKING BUILDS YOU GOD DAMN NIGGERS
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Do Rosetta's flowers count as normal attacks or skill attacks?
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>>743204702
katalina gives 80 bro.
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>>743205058
I had an infa hexa run with a PUG Rackam with it, he got MVP and my Io and the player Maggy did nothing but shout RACKUM!! the entire time, it was kino.
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What's the best mission to grind fortitude crystals?
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>Need ten billion fortitude crystals
>Need ten billion Silver Centrums
The more things change.
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what fights are getting nerfed and yes cygames are going to nerf some fights
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>>743201479
I'm normally the same with choice paralysis. My advice is to play a single character until you hit Chaos++, the point where you unlock max weapon Transcendence and Conflux 5. This is where you can farm tons of MP and weapon mats and it doesn't take that long anymore to build characters. I already have 4 characters build to 38k+ power to swap between playstyles.
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Quite fun game. I just finished the campaing. What´s the gameplay loop of endgame? Is everything bossing?
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>>743205797
all of that is free when youre farming for MSP which you need way more of
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How's the Switch 2 port?
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>20% hp left
>SBA chain
>everyone's graphics cards crash
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>>743205635
Incoming!
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>>743205635
What does Naru milk taste like?
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>>743205827
crab
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>>743206021
strawberry
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>>743205840
>38k
brother. you didnt even begin the grind
building a new character takes like millions of msp
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So which characters work out of the box without Master traits bullshit? I want a character to enjoy the progression without feeling like shit until you get to Master level 50 or something.
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>>743203670
Guess I'll just farm summons.
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Eustace is actually a lot of fun
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>>743203671
Nah her support tree is really, really strong and her Lost Love spam tree is stupid strong, especially in cleave fights.
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>>743206068
zeta
sandalphon
io
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>>743206068
Narmaya
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>>743206068
Charlotta plays exactly the same from start to finish. Hope you don't mind spamming Y finishers from the moment you start until you quit the game.
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>>743206064
It's a good setpoint to try out all the 30 Mastery Traits and whether you actually like a character or not.
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>>743203889
Charlotta has achieved her final form
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>>743205961
Probably consequences of using a frankensteined Nier Automata engine
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>>743205335
But all anons keep saying stay in red...
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>>743206403
Yes but they're using a Stout Heart sigil or summon. Those can be swapped for Damage Cap sigils/summons which ends up doing more damage.
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>>743206403
just get a summon with stout heart then you can stay in red perma
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Man Infinity Beelzebub is quite literally impossible if you don't have other character's effects turned down. I can't fucking see his little vine link things that tell me if I'm supposed to dodge or block. How the fuck can I do that when I can't even fucking see it? Why is the visual queue so fucking small?
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the tutorial says bea's red clock gives dmg up, but how much? 10%? 20?
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Can someone explain to me how stun actually works? Does it scale off of your actual damage or is it based on pure motion values like in MH?
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>>743203587
I really think they should have removed damage cap from sigils. They restrict the whole system to the point there's no room for creativity at all. Just have damage cap be its own system that doesn't depend on the same system as what you use to get your damage.
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>>743206760
attacks have their own stun values. i don't think it's tied to mv since some attacks are just average damage wise but have really high stun. your base stun is ok at the beginning but at the current er endgame, the bosses have grossly inflated stun bars which means you really wanna slot stun power in
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>>743202856
Bro where the spin ? that illegal
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For cag is it still XYY + XXYY or did they change it?
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>>743206760
Latter. My percy skill does 100m+ dmg but it doesn't do that much in stun vs some stun checks like bubs
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>>743206881
they didn't change it. saw and hammer take too long
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I'm glad Siete's mastery tree fixed his meter gain. Haven't swapped off him since I started playing the DLC.
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Best ranged character for farming slimes?
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>>743206361
they're also unplayable on any endgame mode. so basically its impossible to change characters if you're on infinity
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>>743205420
Insight Bea is Beabrained.
You just stay in yellow unless it's Link Time, Break, or an Ougi Chain, stick enough Skill Cooldown on, have some Regen/Regen 2.0/Drain, and you Skill > Finisher > Skill > Finisher [...] while having 99% uptime.

A bunch of characters have "hidden" interactions between parts of their kits that the game details nowhere, and putting them in full auto and watching what they do can help show you what you may be missing.
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>>743206858
>>743206923
Man I've got my stun power trait maxed and I'm still failing Lucilius's initial stun check. I was thinking maybe my damage wasn't enough.
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>>743206932
Shame, I really like the saw.
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>>743207010
Eugen in my opinion
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>>743207010
eugen
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>>743203124
Who do you play?
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>>743203340
The Echos primarily.
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>>743207194
>katalina user and pekora fan
damn didn't know anons were based like that
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>>743206997
What mastery tree did you pick?
Want to main him but not quite sure how to build him.
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>>743206997
based smugGOD
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>playing as a male
>playing as a female over 83cm tall
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>>743199926
it's similar to monster hunter but the anime is turned up to 11
you have way more defensive options and don't 'commit' to attacks like mon hun does
still fun
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>>743207542
Yeah I'll play as the around 90cm one.
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>>743207542
>Mating press a 83cm female as she bitches about propriety
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after messing with eustace I think he plays great and each style is quite different from eachother and thats great, managed to get all infinites done with lighting soldier build however

perfectionist is unrealistic unless you are a godgamer (or a cheater), there is too much shit happening in infinites that you will get hit and stacks will be lost, he shouuld get rosetta treatment where he loses them after taking X amount of damage instead of every random jab, that would fix it desu, dopamine hits hard when you can get few grade 4 clips in a row tho

shotgun is pure suffering, you have to be almost melee to be on 100% dmg and second faloof range is already 50% making any kind of slight movement from you or boss a massive loss, also feels a bit behind in dmg from what Ive played for some reason

lighting soldier is prob most consistent however you have to get cast from heavens calls down which demands boss stand for a bit and then aim with second skill, if you manage to get consistent resets tho the damage nicely flows with decent stun power, I run with with pure dmg skills and generally can compete with other charas in high end content
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Any mod that makes the characters not disappear when close to the camera?
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>>743207458
Went with the insight tree, it gives you a lot more bar meaning you can pretty much have his avatar out the entire fight with very little downtime as long as you have enough skill CD reduction.
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>no guts
>no autorevive
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That's a really cool attack you got there. Shame I'm 2 meters above the ground so it can't touch me.
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>>743207701
im just that good bro.
and I'll also be taking glass canon.
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>>743191981
i was told this character is ass but i think she's cool so i've continued to level and build her out as an AI companion.
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Anyone else playing Captain and finding the new dingodiles sort of hard to hit? I think there's this invisible barrier in the back and even in front that keeps me from getting close enough to land some of my swipes.
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For me, it's flight over fight
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I forgot how much of a pain in the ass Vulkan Bolla is with ANY melee character. The camera lock on in that fight is fucking awful
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>>743207804
they actually nerfed it super hard, it's no longer worth using
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does the mastery to let her do multiple balls really skyrocket fediel's damage that much? her damage is pretty unimpressive down here in chaos+
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>>743207885
its better now unless your character exploited it
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wow ultra giga nigga dragon is a victory lap after all that chaos luci bullshittery
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>>743207919
Short answer, yes. Long answer, yeeeeeeeeees.
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>>743207885
It lessens your attack even harder? At face value it's just an outright buff (only getting the atk debuff if you get hit)
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>>743207919
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1xNNW6REdh/
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>>743207110
But what about her damage anon? People keep saying her damage on training dummy is bad compared to some other characters doing 500-600 million.
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>>743207687
Perfectionist is tons of fun. High risk high reward feels great, press X to dopamine. I haven't tried the other two but lightning soldier mite b cool. Shotgun feels too adjacent to being melee but with even less range somehow
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>>743207930
>>743207975
the dmg down used to not affect your cap so you could just throw in some orange sigils to make up for it

now it does, you can test it on the dummy. you will do much lower damage but when you switch it to the dmg cap display it will still say you are over the damage cap. it's basically the same dmg up/down multiplier as the ones in your master traits that actually affects your cap
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>>743207919
It sucks that the rest of her kit is so mediocre.
Fedi without orb spam feels like half a character. You are kinda forced to build her one way.
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>>743208036
I don't give a FUCK about dummy data.
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>>743207767
She plays really well her issue is literally just that her numbers fucking suck.
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>>743208059
That sucks, but I thought DLC builds find it really easy to cap in general, no? Surely you can augment your build to work around that no different than running more damage sigils prior to the change
But I'm assuming now it's a modifier that just fucks your damage and cap over no matter what
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>doing fediels fate
>the narrator makes fun of you for falling in the lava
Okay that's pretty funny.
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>highest skill character in Versus
>sucks because she doesn't have a good payoff for being skilled
>highest skill character in Relink
>sucks because she doesn't have good payoff for being skilled
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>>743190360
that's kiki
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>>743208195
no you don't understand, it's a multiplier to your final damage now. it actually lowers your damage cap when in base relink, it didn't. because dmg up/down effects back then didn't affect your cap but now they do
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>>743208012
Post the highest Beatrix one you can find anon
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>>743208314
I get it, no workaround then. That's actually a fair way to nerf it frankly. How bad are the numbers?
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Vane is just a shittier Charlotta with way lower damage and an even more braindead playstyle.
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>>743208173
there is 0 downside to using this because youre gonna savescum the results anyway
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>>743188209
LGBT franchise
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im struggling in these fucking proud double or triple bosses
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I apparently never sold precious ores until now
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>>743208173
qrd
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oh I see why you guys said to level this one
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>>743207194
Post build. I wanna try him.
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>maxxed out fediel joins quest
>melts the boss in seconds
holy shit
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what does rising nova do? is it worth slotting in?
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how censored/pozzed is the game?
no pantsu no buy
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>expect hexa to be a nightmare after suffering the faa experience
>the fight is easy as fuck but very cool
im somehow both relieved and disappointed
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do you need to play through the campaign/story to play the new big titty bitch? just bought both
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>>743208759
Kinda funny how it's the final new raid but it's easy as fuck meanwhile Lucilius is still a CBT torture chamber
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>>743205058
i main rackam and thought the build was a meme, but just paired with some chinese player on the final, final chaos ++ mission with 20k commends who played it and only died once. i have no idea if his damage was good but i was so confused why everyone kept screaming rackam, including my own rackam, until i realized collateral damage causes that. now i really want to try it out just so everyone keeps yelling. i think you can make it work by stacking defense since the master trait provides you a big shield upon using it. it would just be annoying for me to prep for it and swap around sigils.
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>>743208759
Faa is just a shitty designed boss because he provides way less visual information about what he is doing compared to all the other big bosses.
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>>743208759
Hexa is a chill fight the only lame thing is that the AIs don't focus the right add.
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>>743208835
DURATION
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>>743208757
it's granblue
it's pozzed by default
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>>743208810
you need to blow two crewmate tickets on her to unlock early which you'll get pretty fast just playing the story
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>>743208810
you can unlock her early or wait for the ER story to get her for free
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>>743208656
>damage cap hitting 300%
yeah I don't understand this game
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>>743209159
bea...................
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>>743208382
seems to be 50% dmg down
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>>743208759
I wonder if they'll release a harder version.
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>maxxed out sandalphon joins party
>he does nothing
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>>743209389
From my experience every male character player that isn't Eugen, Rackam, Vaeraga and Gallanza is a shitter who literally doesn't know how to play the game. Worst are definitely Id players. I've never encountered an Id player that didn't almost nearly tank the entire quest on his own.
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What's the max level a character can join as? Right now I am at 100 Mastery 20. Wanna unlock them at the highest level possible
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beasisters what combo am i supposed to use outside of devour when my skills are all on cooldown
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>>743209490
I've only seen one Gallanza but I was playing Charlotta and we both stayed rammed up the boss's asshole the entire time without dying so I like Gallanza players now.
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>>743209560
xyy feels like it fills gauge the fastest
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>>743209560
Play skill chain and never worry about cooldowns
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playing fraux just makes me want to go back to yodarha
she brings nothing interesting, at least i can stick to the boss like glue and spam party wide mirage with yoda
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>>743209632
thanks

>>743209660
i'm just starting the dlc sis i don't know what that means
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>>743209487
Flat is justice, no "fixing" needed.
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>>743201674
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>>743192768
>damage dealt is not damage cap
They really need to make this shit more intuitive. What all does this apply to? What shit arbitrarily multiplies the damage cap?
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>>743209487
Rare Mary sighting.
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>fediel in my party
That's my cue to leave instantly.
I want a challenge. Stop griefing online lobbies, just play solo and use Cheat Engine if you want the game to be that easy.
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>>743209182
no but I AM retarded
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im glad fraux got in, i wanted her or maria theresa for the evoker rep
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>>743209718
What don't you like about her anon?
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>>743208690
I was the katalina. no idea about how to build eugen
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>>743209587
Gallanza players are unga bunga kings.
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>get matched with three Japanese players
>sandbag hard and fail the quest through deaths
Fuck 'em.
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>>743207110
>putting them in full auto
I learned you can parry puddles and the overdrive knockback by watching Eustace.
The AI is a great teacher
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>>743209778
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>>743209960
Oh my bad I didn't look too closely at the webm and just assumed it was with the AI.
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I'm guessing for general play Sieg's best mastery is just the stacking combo one? But not the one that is removed upon a skill
Unless that one would be worth using just for a buffed Nelah Nav or something.
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>play bea
>go for power finisher
>8-10 times it just rotates the clock instead

THIS. Is my least favorite thing about her.
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>>743208036
Dummy data is extremely impractical and not a good measure of how characters actually perform in combat. Only retards care about it as a metric.
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>>743210068
It's a race to the bottom, but honestly I think going skilled slayer is for the best unless you are truly excellent. They seriously fucked him over as far as masteries, even if his kit otherwise is solid.
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>>743210115
Press it once when not in DC, press it 4 times when in DC.
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>>743208976
thats right
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are eugens masteries all dogshit?
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>>743210161
I'm a retard sorry, DC?
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Man all of Yodarha's master traits look like complete shit.
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>>743210138
Honestly while maining him I don't ever feel like he's needed much more so although the masteries seem lackluster, I don't mind it too much. Thanks. I'll see how big my Nelah Navs can get, if people are saying later bosses need a lot of stun power then it's gonna be core for sure.
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>>743210251
The sniper one is kino. Charge fire X 3 times, detonator. It has an INSTANT recharge if sniper stack is 3 so you just launch hard hitters left and right.
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I'm at the new furycane and the rangers outside of Maglielle are getting their shit rocked.
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>>743209857
Does she like men?
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>>743210570
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>>743208036
dummy damage is fine, it's her real damage that's ass
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Does anyone else aside from JK have a teamwide supp buff?
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>just got MVP over 2 Fediels in the 4 Dragon Quest as Bea
>All at 40 Mastery

Surely they weren't using ball starts right? Only way it makes sense.
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>>743208976
kek, how come?
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>>743210427
>It has an INSTANT recharge if sniper stack is 3
okay that sounds nuts
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>>743210776
Enjoy your millions of damage anon. Quick charge is a game changer for that mastery too since it also affects detonator.
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So who should I grind up as AI companions? I play as Magi so I can't use her
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>>743210853
cog,seig and yoda
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>>743210606
It's weird were they afraid she'd be overtuned so they made her damage in regular mode shit? Even then when you got the potato flipping all over the place it still doesn't compute.
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I can't beat infinity Faa-san.....
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>>743208278
Shouldn't have lusted over shota cock
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how the FUCK am I supposed to get to mastery level 50
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>>743211123
I repeatedly grinded the 4 dragon quest you get after beating Hexa. You get 70k per run. It's obviously worse than slime but you get a bunch of other important resources you'll need.
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AHHHHHHHHHHH I keep failing the chaos+ urgent quest because random shitter just can't stop dying to absolutely trival shit to dodge
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I've been stuck in chaos++ because I dont know who to play anymore.
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>>743211202
it also drops summons which you can sell
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bros, how do I play siete?
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>>743208278
Dont worry anon, I basically stopped playing her once the dlc dropped because the bosses are so damn annoying with how they wont hold still. Even getting one loop rotation going you're lucky.
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>>743211265
I'm also stuck in Chaos++ because I'm just doing Conflux runs over and over instead of actually advancing the story
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Fraux is so fucking cool but I wish she didn't look so slutty, it takes away from the cool factor
Call me gay all you want
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>>743211498
gay
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>>743211265
I also was stuck on Chaos++. Leveling up everyone's weapons , actually getting them up to level and equipping sigls for them for the last 12 hours.
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>>743211498
gay
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beelzebub and luci are shit fights. cant see shit + never ending aoe spam garbage
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>>743211202
oh got it! I'll take a look
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>>743210354
The one that lets you chain finishers is good, but making you lose shrouds by getting hit is retarded.
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>>743211590
Old man eyes. Those fights are telegraphed extremely well. Try turning down other player effects.
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>>743201674
>Seofon
loved his infinite clearre mastery. wish his avatar last longer so i can swordspam more. watching enemy's hp bar melting in link time is satisfying.
https://streamable.com/c4wuf6
1-min swordspam, wish i can cast his tempesta twice like this.
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>>743211590
beelze is very readable, luci on the other hand is just random shit go
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>>743211590
skill issue
if you didn't get twelve-winged pre-dlc solo you are BENEATH ME
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>>743211590
Lucilius music isn't hype and his transformation looks dumb but at least beelz yakuza serious and

I AM WOT I AM
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Is the story co-op as well or just the missions?
Im about to get it along with a friend, the demo was pretty nice
Also I was told the ruby golem was meant to be some kind of filter, but I didnt get hit at all, did I get baited?
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>>743211392
hold Y at the end of a Y combo finisher to smoothly bring out the stand. Don't be afraid to use combo finishers from lower X strings if you think the boss is about to move away from you. XXX Y has pretty massive accrual.
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How are the new characters as AI? Magli gets talked about a lot as consistently non-retarded but all I hear about fediel is from people who pilot her directly
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>>743209487
she literally hasn't even started puberty yet.
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>>743211710
>Lucilius music isn't hype
https://youtu.be/4NKj6yyYSSU?si=L6vQSNWeM07bYLyx&t=175 is utter kino I don't care what anybody says
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>>743211773
If you turn on auto combat you can see how they play, fediel doesn't orb spam as much but she does do it whenever she goes into her finisher but she tends to claw to build up stacks before doing it
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>>743211761
so it's mostly just xxxy -> hold y unless the opening is too small? do any of his skills impact your combos?
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>>743211710
YOUR FATE IS OVERWRITTEN
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>>743211759
>Also I was told the ruby golem was meant to be some kind of filter, but I didnt get hit at all, did I get baited?
Well compared to the other demo quests it can be considered hard but it's more because of how weak you are in the demo
Quests are coop, you can progress through the story together, but the new roguelike mode is solo only unfortunately
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>>743211773
AI doesn't understand Fediel's kit at all, to the point where it will drop the combo instead of throwing orbs if the target moves away during claw.
Eustace is reasonably competent.
Haven't built any of the others.
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>>743208278
>>743211407
Then there's me Paralyzing bosses every 30 seconds, getting Jamming Expert, parrying bosses into the ground with massive amounts of Stun and winning the fight for pugs

She has two entire skill trees dedicated to NOT spamming the stupid pogo jumpies, you should try them out. Parrying bosses consistently is so fucking kino
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>>743211710
>doesn't know about "your fate is over retard"
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>>743209487
>>743211840
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>>743212023
post setup
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>>743211710
>>743211903
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U51slMXwHZ8
It's so fucking good
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>>743211886
xxxx y ultimately does more I think, but if you're pressed for time xxx y is good to shoot for. As far as skills, having your stand guage high enough will have you stand join in, so ideally you want to be using skills when your meter is up.
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>>743210350
Devour Causality, the state she enters when you fill the gauge and spin the clock.
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>>743212189
Oh...thank you anon. I seriously hope they make some micro adjustments to her to make her feel slightly better to play.
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>>743211759
base game story is single player.
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>>743212115
Is it worth doing the avatar finisher that spends all your gauge ever?
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>>743211985
so we can do the story co-op without bullshit?
I remember having to go into MHW missions, watch the cutscene, then back out in order to actually co-op that shit and it was really fucking annoying, if the story functions the same as regualr missions then its all good I guess
And yeah it did take a while, about 13 minutes, but other than that it didnt really seem all that bad
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>>743212360
He's wrong story mode is singleplayer only
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I restarted from scratch on PC after having played the game in PS5 and I just got to the big city after the snow level. Im so far behind because im trying to play like 4 games at once. By the time I get to endgame the online is gunna be dead again.

How is Katalina in endgame these days?
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So did I hear that right?
Fediels kit is shadowy demon hands from satans fuzy butthole?
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>>743188209
i dont look like this but i act like this
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Anyone playing Lancelot? I realized I haven't seen a single one since the expansion launched. His master traits seem like they have potential but I have other characters I want to build first.
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>>743212474
Seems like a "never punished" the character to me
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>>743212474
I LIKE lancelot but my god it kills my thumb.
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I feel like I should just wait a couple weeks before bothering with Lucy. Retards do not know to build for stun cause man if I have to see THE END one more time I'm losing it.
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I hate sigils so much bros :(
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>>743212995
I just hate damage cap
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>>743212313
If you pull out the stand while the right guage is maxed, you will lose all of that meter once the stand goes away. I don't exactly what know the benefits full right gauge gives but you will probably want to drop the stand finisher before the left gauge runs out.
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>>743212237
I agree, it can be clunky to turn the clock even when you want to.
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>>743212474
I saw one in Beelzebub yesterday, not the average 1 button spammer. It seems Lancelot can freeze Beelz for a significant duration
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Does Cag have a decent end-game damage build?
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kill all fediel cheaters
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>>743213219
Cope
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>>743213147
>playing the literally broken character
>thinking anyone will be impressed

You're a cheater. You didn't beat the game. Might as well oneshot all the bosses with CheatEngine while you're at it
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>>743213204
Not damage persay but she's top tier support
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>>743213252
>>743213246
>>
I see Fediel
I leave
Simple as
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>>743213252
is this your first rpg?
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>>743213478
I just wanna play the game. If a Fediel shows up and kills the boss in 30 seconds I'm not enjoying my game.
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>>743213557
Play solo if you're disturbed by other people playing in a public mission you willingly queued up for
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>>743213557
if it wasnt fediel it would be Charlotta, or Fraux etc
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fediel fazbear
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>>743213557
Nigger Fediel at her max is literally less than what a giga maxed Charlotta can do.
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>finally get to Bahamut versa
>oh hell yeah this version of him doesnt have id, very co-
>SBA
>what
>the fight just started
>wait how are you all
>wait how is he half health
>wait the fights over

>realize my group is 3 fediels
Oh. Okay. THATS what its like.
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>>743213941
I had one in my Lucilius quest and she used her SBA before anyone could get to 100% and literally managed to almost get back to 100% before the 2nd guy in our team could get there for the 1st time. Where the fuck does this insane SBA gain even come from?
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>>743214147
The same ultra OP damage build also generates 6000 gorillion SBA
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Does stout heart and yellow clock stack?
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>>743214246
Forgot my bea
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fuck these fediel faggots, you are not good at the game, you are just abusing bugs. Go play with CPUs. Have some self respect
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>>743214246
No but yellow stance gives 20% defense and some resistance to all CC
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Did they buff Ghandagoza at all or is he still unplayably jank?
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thread over, shitters are being obnoxious crying gigafaggots
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So in all seriousness, how is her damage on endgame bosses? Should I even bother?
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I'm gonna bet these Fediel metafaggots are gonna latch onto the second-best DPS once she gets nerfed. sovlless bug-eating faggots.
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>>743214463
He actually does fantastic damage but good luck getting it off in a real fight
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>>743214552
I'm sure some of them do it for the love of dragon tits
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Chaos++/Infinity lobby request anything

8ANT WTJ7 8CR5 XDT0
pass: vidya
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>>743214717
I loved fediel before she was even announced. Now I cant use her.
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Will I be spoiled on anything important if I unlock Fraux early? I'm only on chapter 6 of the base game but I really want to play as her.
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>>743214552
I do it for dragon tits. Not my fault Cygames made her busted here. Grow up.
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>>743214552
Well yeah. That's pretty much what happened back then too. This is gaming in 2020s. Soulless metafaggot thanks to youtubers and e-celebs
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>>743214552
You sound like an insecure faggot.
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>>743214846
Almost all her fate episodes canonically happen after a certain part of the DLC
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enjoy while it lasts fedielbros. She is definitely getting nerfed after the next relink stream
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>>743215003
Okay, but will those spoil like a huge twist or just minor stuff? If it'll be actually big spoilers I'll just unlock Bea or stick with Rackam or something.
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>>743215026
Are her pits saltier than Ferry's?
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>>743214552
holy shit nigger either play solo or kill yourself instead of shitting up the entire thread with your crying
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If you really liked Fediel, you'd play her the normal way and have more fun doing it. Instead, you spam dodge cancels because you're exactly what you said you are, an insecure little faggot who's desperate for the MVP.
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>>743214147
Her ball spam is mostly safe, does gorillion dps, 100% tracks, and has the best SBA gain. It's like they rolled all the best characters in base game into one.
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>>743215082
Not a huge twist if you're familiar with the character or the evokers in general, I'd say fediel has more impactful spoilers.
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Beabros, clockcrew, what do I do during link time? Just power finishers or skills? I feel clunky during link time.
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I don't like the way any of the new characters play...
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>>743215140
Jokes in you I dont even know how to dodge cancel...despite having 300+ hours.
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>>743214552
Jokes on you, I like brown. I hope the next DLC is Spinnah.
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>>743214520
Average. It's not Fediel, Charlotta, Io level consistency. Play who the fuck you want though. Her highest score on the Dummy is like 520 mil or something when the top tiers are hitting 600+
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>>743214772
2/4
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>>743214520
She's mid
>Mid is had
Mid can be cleared with everything.
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>>743215205
I've only played a bit of the original GBF so I'll stick to avoiding the characters with the warning on them for now.
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>>743215276
NTA but I just got to learn how to play, such as what's optional for clock gain and whatnot.
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>>743213252
>everyone else is op and does trillions of damage
>fine
>chocolate milkers does big damage
>REEEE FBI DO SOMETHING!!!
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>>743212995
Brainlet detected.
>>743213020
Brainlet detected.
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>>743210925
dog anus sniffa
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>>743213252
You're fucking retarded holy shit.



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