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BRVTAL MOGGING
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEvRSqgnUPA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbx7y3IS4Fg
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU5V4U7jcdE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl6SE9oxy0E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSSXyJCUKb4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIeGZSIecwc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekNjM9tVLDs
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ah autosaged
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>>743215335
the existence of /vg/ should only apply to gacha games, moderating threads like these is just fucking pointless and makes the board worse
>a buh you aren't allowed to talk about different fighting games in a centralized thread you are clogging space for our daily culture war twitter screencap thread
fuck you
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>>743215504
>making fighting game threads everyday
>early monday included
>when all fightan fags are old dads with jobs
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>>743215504
oh wait nvm yaay
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>>743215504
Doesn't seem like it
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paracelsus is a lucky key
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLCldCNLKxo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpOGC0j04jo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGy8N1z4UwE
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Koreans wear these?
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>>743215335
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>Avatar in 10 days
>Still no Ozai and Zaheer trailer
Anytime now
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>>743216552
Athletic people would wear them. Virtua Fighter's first Korean is probably a kicker, but also probably doesn't want to be thought of as lewd and just show off her feet for free.
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>>743216967
>doesn't want to be thought of as lewd
>is wearing the shoe equivalent of spandex leggings
turbo whore
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People would stop saying Melty has no drip if they put Aoko in her mahoyo outfit. They changed Shiki's look so they should do this.
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>>743217496
I wonder if Aoko has enough of a moveset that we can get an alternate version of her Mahoyo form with redshift as a cutscene super.
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I will never be able to use these fucking combos in a match no matter how much I practice them I'll start fucking up
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>>743216963
And Tokon open beta too. SUFFOCATION.
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>>743218112
will the open beta have the full roster?
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>>743218129
I think they'll only add Blade and the open beta roster will be the same as the previous closed beta.
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After about 20 hours of SF6 I don't feel like playing it anymore. Ever.
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>>743218472
You all say this then you go back to playing sf6 while still bitching about it
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>>743218472
Yep, Dix will do that to ya
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>>743215335
1 cm mogging
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>>743218472
Yea I felt the same. I reinstalled it because my brain tricked me into remembering it not being that bad, played a few matches, and uninstalled again.
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https://www.humblebundle.com/games/arc-system-works-evo-collection
play fighting games /v/, there is no excuse
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thinking about learning zato he's too cool
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>>743219973
The bundle still ongoing? Cool.
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>>743218472
This is me with Tekken 8. I dunno I really dont feel these new games anymore, theyre technically OK personally, I just think I could be playing something else
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>>743220203
They extended it because less than 50 people bought it
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>>743220301
what is the point of lying here?
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>>743220408
all me
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_6joYd8U-c
>>743220207
i went back to 7 and doa and im having way more fun
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>>743216967
hard R kicker
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>FIGHTING GAMES
>It's actually a tranny porn thread.
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>>743216967
The first thing people are going to do in character customization is remove her shoes. We know it. They know it.
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Why the hell would I get the Tokon character pass if I don't know who will be in it?
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>>743221162
They'll announce it at SDCC end of July
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Mystery niggas
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>>743219973
The current best deal yet
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>>743215782
>gacha games
lol first day on 4chan or just gacha deranged? There's tons of cancer that isn't gacha that needs to be contained in /vg/
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>2026
>fighting games
you niggas need to let go and move on
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>>743219973
Besides CF, Strive and maybe Arcana Heart isn't it all trash?
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>>743221963
It's all trash
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>>743221963
UNI2, BBTag, and Chaos Code are good
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>>743221963
The only trash is Kill La Kill if you don't want arena fighter
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What's with all these faggots complaining all of a sudden?
Are they tendies still assmad over P*lworld or something?
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>>743221883
I am too much of a man to run away.
>>743221963
Plus R is miles better than strive.
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>>743215335
Lambchop is the best sword girl
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>>743222231
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>>743222231
?
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>>743216552
Nice to feet you.
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bot?
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>>743217543
Nah, Tsukihime Aoko already got everything Young Aoko has in Mahoyo minus being able to phase through attacks with the 5th magic.
At the same time Melty is the game where you have 2 Shikis, 4 Arcueids, 2 Ciels, 2 Akihas, etc. So it's not like it would be out of place for another Aoko.
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>>743222730
>>743217543
Watch Mahoyo Aoko have her MBAACC full moon moveset in order be beginner friendly
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Do (You) ever think about how much hidden tech and such that will never be found in fighting games these days because people are spoiled for choice.

You don't have to play the same game in the same locals for 10 years so you don't obsess over it long enough to find some obscure engine quirk that'll be called milk-cunking or some other nonsense and become ubiquitous in the scene.
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>>743222820
>I wasted my entire free time behind a video game to find a hidden shitty ass tech for a dead dogshit game
More than being spoiled maybe they just became intelligent
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>>743222820
Newer games are probably coded in some way that prevent hidden tech like that. The last one, at least from the games I've played that had that much discovered tech way past its support is UMVC3.
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>>743222973
Understandable. I'd say BT3.
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Maybe put in Non-Dead Apostle Noel in Twilumina. She was wasted potential
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>it's snoys and Palfaggots behind these daily shill general threads
Of fucking course.
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GARICKKU HO
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This really is a general, we even have deranged schizos rambling about random shit now.
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There is LITERALLY zero reason to bring console war faggotry into these threads you obnoxious fucking faggots, give it a rest.
No one owns JUST ONE gaming platform in fucking 2026, certainly not people who like fighting games.
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>>743222929
yass sar, become an intelligent
do not play video games
think like a brilliant
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>>743223056
???????????
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I love Fatal Fury. I love the direction of the game and would love for this to end up being the vision they wanted, the "ultimate Fatal Fury" game by fine tuning it and adding in more and more content. I love that they are funded by people who care more about developing the game than the profit the game is making because they're clearly losing money on this, compare this to Mortal Kombat who across several games has a ton of cancelled DLC including stuff that was announced.

I don't care if the game never becomes popular for the mainstream or even a lot of the fighting game community. I will be here for however many seasons they develop the game because I fucking love Fatal Fury. Fatal Fury Special, 3, Real Bout 1 2 and special, Dominated Mind, Wild Ambition, even the mobile games. I played the shit out of them all the time until CotW and now I play that a lot. I hope the people who are funding this continue to stay interested in developing the game because the people who work on this game clearly love Fatal Fury too.
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>>743223176
Switch 2 is by far the most popular platform and the sales prove. PC and Sony are fading into irrelevance.
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>instantly deleted
ok
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>>743218932
Joke's on you, faggot. I've never played it at all.
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>>743222010
>BBTag
>good
Why would you lie to that poor anon?
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how active is kof 15 online
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>>743223290
>moral clarity
>speedrunning

Huh
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I fucking hate VickiViper, fat and ugly troon. Also, if these idiots were serious about MUH SAUDI SAPPORT they would cut their ties with Capcom, KT and other big devs too
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>>743223290
BSky
Isn't that where all the loonies who couldn't stand the fact that Twitter was no longer a safe space went?
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>>743223056
>>743223215
Larper-kun...
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>>743223056
>1746763861025674m.jpg
>m
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>>743223373
Nah, Bluesky adoption was mostly because of things like how its API is free and it has better in-built features like native RSS feeds for each page. It's the superior option for people that wanted a functional site instead of caring about politics, which is the only reason people stay with Twitter
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>>743223336
This is what it looks like on Steam. Though if I recall correctly the game has crossplay meaning that there shouldn't be an issue finding players.
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>>743223430
They are the majority of this website's users.
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>>743217496
Hank hill outfit mogs that one btw
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>>743223464
>CF
>754
It's beautiful. I even started winning every once in a while.
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>>743222820
Whenever anybody finds something strong it's just going to get patched out the way that Input Assistance crouch tech exploit got instantly removed after it was found.
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If i would have dollar for each girl called noel that has the most shrivel annoying voice in fighting games i would have 2 dollars
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>>743223584
Why isn't Iroha pissing in these panels
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>>743215335
Has a guest/collab character ever made you try out the game they originate from? I bought pic related because of Thunderbolt OTOME in Starward and so far the game is pretty fun.
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>>743223584
>we can't actually have this fight happen in KoF XV because those stupid FUCKS at SNK put that hideous newcomer in Team Samurai instead of Iroha
I will be forever mad about this.
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>>743223623
Having fetish coomers reply whenever I post fighting girls art is starting to discincintise me to continue doing so.
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Pirate baiken is swaggy doe
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>>743223605
>>743223215
>>743223056
Best girl Nu-Typemoon came up with including her DA version. She's fetish fuel, pure sex and likes to fuck underaged boys.

Now Dr Arach when???
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>>743223694
>Now Dr Arach when???
When she does something other than triggering a bad end in the novel, I guess.
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>>743223682
I see no excuse for why she isn't pissing, so at least we're on the same page there.
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>>743223694
You mean disincentivize.
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>>743223641
Playing KOF made me interested on Fatal Fury and AOF.
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>>743221963
missing link is trash (complimentary)
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>>743223693
Her having her blind eye under the goggle patch is too dumb for me to take seriously.
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>>743223694
I think Noel is one of the few cases where a remake added a new character that people actually like and has been gaining popularity because of it, can't remember anything else doing something similar.
>>743223694
>Dr Arach
I'm hoping she does becomes playable in Twilumina, i think she has enough things like the Krake ghouls, managing drugs and being capable of using webbing to make a moveset as things are without Red Garden.
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>>743223514
They could at least learn to not save thumbnails
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>>743223905
I genuinely liked Kobra a lot in Deception just because he stood out as a more normal martial arts guy compared to the rest of the cast. Havik was definitely my standout favorite from that game though.
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>>743221963
fuck you, retard
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>>743223905
MK Ken
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>>743224026
my favorite 3d era mk characters are jarek and drahmin
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I forgot I never gave out the +R key I got from the Arcsys bundle. Somebody post a good R. Mika (Alpha costume) with a burner email and I'll send it to you.
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I love Plus R. Whenever I feel frustrated in another game it’s like coming back home.
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>>743223905
3D MK era was weird
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>>743223056
When do we get mew Evangelion-FG with no Evas but the characters instead.
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>>743216240
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Tokon having more secret charcters like Itsy Bitsy and Hobgoblin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o3Lu086rVI
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>>743225654
>Itsy Bitsy
Is that really her name?
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>>743216963
two trailers in one day believe it
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>>743215335
How the hell does that even work, they're both clones of the same person
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>>743223641
Not exactly the same but I bought MK9 because Kratos was in it. He was insanely OP in that game and my cousin always used to complain when I picked him.
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Release Yasmine now or else no one will be playing her!!!
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>>743226363
anything's possible
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>>743226582
arjun waiting room
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>>743226640
What does yellow nu do?
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>>743226778
piss
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>>743226919
which saya clone has tastiest pee???
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>>743227209
Lambda on account of being the purest one
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>>743226640
Office lady Saya
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Hottake, I genuine don't believe difficulty exist in any game and it's nothing more than an illusion.

Time (Match up knowledge) + Dedication (Game hours) = %/Gains

Which has nothing to do with difficulty. I mean what is real difficulty when you're talking about Blazblue? More than 50% of the roster is beginner friendly in terms of

Learning midscreen and cornercombos
Learning pressure strings/setplay
Learning O/D combos
Learning certain hit confirms

Ragna, Noel, Jin, Makoto, Bullet, Mai, Nu13, Es, Kagura, Azrael, Hakumen, Tager, Tsubaki, Relius, and Hibiki

All of these characters are beginner friendly and the above lessons can be learned immediately on day 1 with them. Of course I'm talking about anyone who has experience playing a fighting game in the past, not a nonfighting game player picking up Blazblue as their first game.

The "Time" is mostly learning the matchups. Not training mode combos. That's where Time (match ups) + Dedication (Game hours) = %gains. But 90% of the players coming in refuse to address this because they're all seeking this:

Low Effort (Game hours) + Instant Gratification (Visual Feedback) = %GAINS > Time + Dedication = %/Gains

You might think this is thanks to modern fighters but that's incorrect. Players have always seeked Low Effort + Instant Gratification = %GAINS even in the older games. An example of that would be picking Sagat in vanilla SF4 or a Shoto in general in SF4 thanks to DP-Trade = low cost (preserved meter) + instant gratification (visual feedback) = %GAINS. These players were never ever interested in learning characters like C.Viper, El Fuete, etc because that goes against their Low Effort mindset. And they usually come out with a successfully experience once they evolve Low Effort into Dedication. However that's only for THAT VERSION of the game. Once a new version releases this cycle starts over which can now lead into a bad experience if "Instant Gratification" requires more than "Low Effort".

Thoughts?
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>>743227209
saya is god of death and like noels cooking literaly kills people so every saya clone pee is poisonous and tastes bad
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>>743227768
This all conveniently ignores that some people have "fighting game genes" and some don't. All the time and dedication in the world won't help you against someone who can react faster than you, think farther then you and move faster than you. Not to mention there also exists something known as talent. Some people will have more results with the same amount of time and dedication than others. That's just how it is.
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>>743227895
anon i can guarantee to you that people blocking mixups are rarely reacting to it, they are just fuzzy blocking by accident
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>>743227895
This nigga believes in fighting game genes
LMAO
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>>743227895
That's because they're not lacking a "gene" but that they never learned... how to learn. And specifically how to get good at videogames.

If you play 500 matches in a game while mashing without any consideration then yes you're going to be worse than someone who plays 3 while trying to figure out how the game works
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>>743227895
Time and dedication is only efficient if you know how you properly use it. Actually it's not an "if" it's a "when" you learn how to efficiently use your "time" and "dedication" and therefore you obtain this "fighting game gene" you're talking about. Blazblue doesn't have an instant gratification for "Time" . You have to put in effort which means

Learning about wiki
Learning about Match database
Watching current tournaments
Taking all of that data and applying it to your personal playstyle

That's "fighting game gene". It's not some mystical anime power as you /v/tards like to LARP about having/not having. And in most cases adding "Rival" to the formula dramatically increases the efficiency of someone's Time & Dedication for a short period.
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>>743222820
I know tons of weird/hidden tech/setups and I never use it because I can just win normally, or because the reward on it is super low

For example I've never seen anyone exploit the fact you will teleport airborne instead of grounded if you are airborne by RCing out of 236SS
This sets up a neat left/right mix, but you can already get mix from the usual enders
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whlie you were out playing matches,
i studied the wiki
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>>743228204
The gene is a funny meme to use to demoralize loser mongoloids who deserve it
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>>743228209
there is no mix here to begin with
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>>743227768
I think Naoto is excluded from such lists too much just because 66
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>>743228024
>>743228056
>>743228204
If you are black or asian you have an advantage in fighting games. You know this is true.
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>>743227895
The fighting game gene is a real thing and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
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>>743228396
>Asian
Dedication
>Black
Passion

It makes sense they get good at fighting games
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>>743227768
people that complain fighting games are too hard to learn are just lying to themselves, i don't want to hear it anymore when valve is making deadlock, a third person moba shooter with a fucking air dash and that game is super popular.
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>>743228523
thank you
as a boomer deadlock is literally kryptonite to me
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>>743228523
Back in 2007 people were afraid of Arena Shooters, so they all moved to the new beginner friendly Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare. And when Call of Duty edged closer and closer to becoming an Arena Shooter (see: Infinite Warfare) people give negative feedback because the game started to leave them behind in terms of player skill level. That's why the Modern Warfare Reboot happened. Adding more depth to a casual environment turned out to be a bad thing. It would be like turning Strive into Rev3 next patch. You will basically kill off the entire player base if that happened.
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>>743228714
>It would be like turning Strive into Rev3 next patch. You will basically kill off the entire player base if that happened.
blazblue quite literally did this and it worked
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>>743228290
Arguably, you could react to the teleport drift, but you're banking on unfamiliarity because nobody knows you can get an air teleport off of grounded grave reaper

You can pick whether to drift left/right on the first teleport, if you crossup you can air backdash into jK or land 2S for a high/low
If you delay the teleport, on same same side you can jK>jD or jK>2K and on crossup you can jK/2K
The rest is all bullshit, and you can't even extend your pressure with crow anymore

Likewise you can do this mix if you get double stain, like on wallbreak HKD, but you kinda have to waste double stain on an obvious jump-in, and iirc the reward for a whole three-step process that requires 50 Tension+Wallbreak is just jK>2K>2D(>236S/H)
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>>743228783
Blazblue never had a Strive playerbase so I'm not sure what you mean other than saying Calamity Trigger was easy to get into. And based on my personal experience with CT people giving the game a chance could never overcome Nu13 and Arakune. They cried about them both all the time and didn't even try to learn the match ups. They just cried and quit. Some tried to use old school Street Fighter rules like "nu13 and Ara is banned in this lobby". I don't think they ever learn the game mechanics either and Blazblue CT did not do a great job explaining the mechanics. This was before the Tutorial era. There were no combo trails either unless you got the LE with the DVD.
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Alright, gaymers. What will sell you Art of Fighting 4?
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>>743229283
To be honest I'm pretty confused that there's any demand for it. I've known Fatal Fury guys but I've never met an Art of Fighting guy.
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>>743229283
No stupid system mechanics that streamline everything with powercreep. That's all I'm asking for at this point.
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>>743229283
>What will sell you Art of Fighting 4?
Nothing. new fighting game experiences do not matter, I would rather stay in my UNI2/BBCF bubble than leave it.
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>>743216967
>>743216552
>introducing korean fg character #573746282 who does... drum roll please... TAEKWONDO! WOWWWWWWW! SO FUCKING ORIGINAL!
FOR FUCKS SAKE CAN THESE SHITTY DEVS DO SOMETHING ORIGINAL FOR ONCE IN THEIR DAMN LIVES
WE GET IT, NATIONALITIES HAVE THEIR OWN MARTIAL ARTS, SPICE THIS SHIT UP
HOW IS IT THAT THE MOST REVOLUTIONARY EVOLUTION OF THE TROPE IS SOME BRAZILIAN NAMED BUTT DOING JAPANESE KARATE FROM A 20 YEAR OLD SNK GAME WITH A SHITTY SEQUEL
FOR FUCKS SAKE
MAKE THEM A SUMO WRESTLER OR BOXER OR THAI FIGHTER OR SOMETHING
STOP DOING THE NATIONALITY BULLSHIT
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>>743229283
Not being a fighting game or if it is, a 3D fighter by Harada
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>>743229523
Still waiting for a sumo wrestler that does perfectly normal sumo
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https://youtu.be/CflCPjFxoaM?si=Eo8MJ6TRj1hYPBDu
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>>743228396
Kek you're such a white faggot
>>743229283
Honestly I think if AOF4 (if it exists) just follows what AO3 did, it could genuinely stand out on its own.
For any would be larpers in the room, AOF3 is basically Tekken before Tekken. A lot of normals and moves are done with directional buttons and certain inputs, though there's no combination move buttons like VF or Tekken. As far as I know, no other 2D fighter has done this, on top of having command specials as well. This alone could make for a more "intricate" fighting game that would capture normie attention since they like technicality over flashiness. As well, the Spirit system in AOF3 is also unique in that it's something you can build by "stealing" from the opponent by taunting them. I think the idea of managing your resource while also being able to dictate the opponents could be an incredibly standout mechanic, but keeping it as simple and poorly thought out as 3's would lead to people calling it cheap and boring. Maybe something like a strike-throw-block triangle where you have to choose between getting a combo in vs stealing spirit vs gaining spirit. On top of that, the notion of managing your meter usage to increase the strength of specials is also unique and would make combat even more interesting, and basically a soft EX gauge more than anything that can be filled in the right moments.
I think it has a shot if they flesh it out with more detail. What's really important is this: how will SNK fuck it up?
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>>743229573
Hinako has been doing since 2000.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvZnnSEACg0
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What I have heard from the people who actually played AoF games AOF4 is a shit game. Most of them are like "of all the games, why would they choose this one?"
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>>743228209
>>743228976
I fucking hate Strive.
Look what they did to my boy.
Faggot ass game.
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>>743228396
This
If it wasn't true then why are the top spots always filled with Blacks or Asians?
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>>743230058
An arab literally won Evo for Tekken.
>Arabs are black!
Riiiiiiiiiight.
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>>743229915
this character looks insanely fun to play
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>>743229916
Aof4 doesn't exist you ESL idiot.
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>>743230241
They aren't white that's for sure
And an exception doesn't disprove the rule.
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So shartavar will last around 12 days and then be dead, right?
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>>743230435
A mexican won SF6 at Evo.
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>>743229283
I don't like AoF 1, 2 and especially 3 so it playing like Advanced VG 2 or Groove on Fight, idk
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>>743230376
I've never played AOF. Many japanese pro players call that series shit on their streams. Even Bass said people didn't play that series much
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>>743229979
Your "boy" was always a hated character and was only ever played because of how fucking retarded he is.
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>>743227768
blazblue in particular is a very beginner-friendly game that, unlike strive, took a simple foundation and built upon it until you have cf.
the systems pretty much all work to help a new player and there's little to no jank that you have to interact with in order to improve at the game.

fighting games aren't really hard but you do have to pay upfront, the moment you boot up the game you will be confronted by your lack of skill/lack of knowledge and the penalty for being a shit player is that you dont get to play. in other games the skill gradient is much less black and white. in fighting games you get turned into DSP for 90 seconds and most people do not find that experience enjoyable.
tbqh though i think fighting games became niche because they're 1v1. casuals mostly play games for extrinsic reasons and a game that you can only play with one friend at a time will lose out to a game where all your friends can squad up.
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>>743229523
>make a calm and calculated american
>wild, rough and rowdy japanese thug-like fighter
>korean who boxes
>englishman who does taekwondo
>brazilian/jamaican archetype who hates music and is a gloomy guy who fights with his negativity
>french guy who uses an axe instead of a sword
>chinese girl who fights like an american and uses a shitload of weaponry and has westernized clothing
>loud spaniard who uses judo
>indian man who uses karate and never heard of yoga
>slim, short black guy who fights like a ballerina
>a puny russian kid who is a ninja (with maybe one or two grabs)
There's your initial anthithesis. Pay me.
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>>743230460
So everyone except whites have the fighting game gene? Is that what you're saying?
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>>743230567
Who the fuck is bass?
Anyway, yes, the games are very unbalanced, but they were made in the wild west of gaming. It's fine to give them some merit. The only thing stopping a game from having a scene are people willing to play it, and if people are willing to play shit like 3rd Strike and Sailor Moon on the SNES for over 20 years, AOF3 can and WILL have its day, just like it is going to with that update soon.
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Stop recommending people dead anime fighters. If you want to get into fighting games and fight people your level your only options are Slime Fighter 6, Kekken and soon Marvel Tokon.
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>>743230785
A man has no need for genetics. Only his blade.
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>>743230891
nah, i will tell my friends to play games that i like instead of games that i don't like
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>>743230891
There's also blazblue cf and plus r if you want some good games that aren't dead. I don't want to recommend people bad games that aren't enjoyable.
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>>743230785
You have trannies in Strive and faggots in Rivals of Aether. Pick a lane, cry, or do something about it you weak fucking bitch. Call it karma or your lot in life: you fucking suck regardless and will blame everyone but yourself.
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>>743230969
lol
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>>743231043
League of Legends is an example of a bad game, not enjoyable. Much like sf6 and strive.
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>>743230784
Americaboo would be kino
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>>743229807
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB-dio9aPdA
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>>743230969
Yes, but after they learn the bad game they will at least have some fundamentals to play a good dead fighter without getting washed for free
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>>743231296
tekken 8 doesn't teach you shit
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>>743231296
Yeah but not every game is dead if youre na
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remember to slashback air strings in +R, it is easy to do it. When someone IADjS, they would want to jH to cover their landing. It's the same timing every time
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>>743228396
>If you are black or asian you have an advantage in fighting games.
This is such a bullshit take lmao. Getting into fighting games and being good at them has absolutely nothing to do with race and everything to do with how early did you get into them and how early on did you start taking them serious so that when your generation is is on the frontline did you or did you not work harder than everyone else throughout your journey. But I always laugh at you guys bring up race.

Formula 1 is a white mans sport and the greatest formula 1 racer of all time is a nigga. Move the goalpost anon. Yes, move the goalpost lmao
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>>743228396
>If you are black you have an advantage in fighting games
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>>743215335
Nu best girl.
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>>743231694
There's no goalpost to move.
The exceptions don't disprove the rules. If you seriously believe that we are all equal in this world, that you just have to work hard and that some people simply don't have better genes than others you are painfully ignorant and naïve. All these retards brining up exceptions are on the same tier as people who defend pitbulls by saying "oh but mine is such a sweet fella" even though it's clearly obvious that pitbulls as a whole are violent and aggressive.
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>>743231949
Isn't Tennis also a white sport and yet Serena Williams and her sister Venus Willaims ran that shit throughout their entire career?!? Y'all gonna have to explain this one too.
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>look on youtube for beginner stuff for +R
>flood of recent years snake oilsman beginner guides 'do this if you're coming from [insert modern game]'
everything post covid needs to be destroyed from the internet
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>>743228396
They really didn't like this post
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>>743231992
I mean I've yet to see a bad one outaide of rooflemonger's shitty guides
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Also Golf is a white sport and yet... Tiger Woods.

Got damn I keep finding real statistic that prove you're all fucking retards lmao
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>>743231992
w hich c h aract er
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>>743231979
Looked her up and unless she's been juicing it's superior genetics rearing their heads once again. I mean look at this absolute unit of a woman. She could probably beat most "men" here. Either in Tennis or mortal kombat.
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>>743231949
>>743230785
>>743230435
>>743230058
>>743228396
>Whites are better than anyone at everything!
>Except fighting games doe, we just lack le epic 'gene'!
What an incredibly odd and bizarre thing to get hung up on lol, post hands or you're actually just a huge cuck
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>>743232218
I watched one of her matches after she gave birth and fuck, she looked like a paleolithic Venus asking for another breeding.
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>>743232218
Yeah that's nice honey. Can you look up who she's married to and see what company he owns?
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>>743232056
all I get is 'TIPS FOR BEGINNERS' or 'I AM A NEW PLAYER, I DID THESE THINGS TO LEARN'
and they all say nothing usefull
>>743232128
right now I'm inclined to go for May because she seemed very straight forward but I'm still getting my head around the universal mechanics like the roman cancels and such which is what I'm trying to find info on
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>>743232080
Ah yes the drunk driver who crashed his car multiple times, got arrested multiple times, cheated on his wife multiple times, tried to sell people NFTs and basically faded completely from the public eye. Truly an exemplary paragon of Golf you picked there.
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>>743231949
>>743232218
Nothing is stopping (You) from properly learning a fighting games unless you do not met the standard requirement, having two functioning hands with 10 functioning fingers and the handware needed to play the game. If you have this then there is no advantage or disadvantage. You're on equal playing fields with everyone else. Anyone lacking this requirement is at a disadvantage. being physically handicap is a disadvantage. Some overcome this but they're still handicapped by definition and ruling.

keep coping though, it's so funny.
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>>743232328
waht about roman cancels? Dustloop usually has everything you need to know
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>WAAAAHHHH IM LAZY AND I WANT INSTANT GRATIFICATION WWWAAAAAHHHHHH
>I will blame it on muh nationality
kek
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>>743232462
Just conveniently ignore the neuroscientific part of it lie you've been conveniently ignoring reality for most of this thread.
People are not created equal no matter how much you cry over it.
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>>743232427
He's good at golf, thats the only thing that matters in this argument.
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>>743232712
Shut the fuck up retard. If we play and I'm beating you all the time the only reason you can't beat me is because you're lazy. You refuse to learn the matchup. Kill yourself for being lazy.
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>>743232587
I'm just having a hard time thinking about how to use it in practice and I end up not using it at all, I think I just need to watch actual good players play the game to get a better grasp for it
dustloop has been a godsend
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>>743232885
Why are soccer teams filled with blacks? Why are basketball teams filled with them? Purely economic reasons I'd presume?
Lol
You are not living in the real world. If you were right than people like Dean Takahashi would not exist. People are not equal and some are better than others. This is how life works.

Deal with it.
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>>743231992
>>743232328
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj34EySs1Ieb8Wjnj9H2Q-G4mdPXTd_xH
These are pretty good brief individual character overviews. The same guy made a general concept playlist but it’s for xrd, but a lot of the same things apply other than yrc, danger time, and blitz shield. Roman cancels pretty much instantly cancel your current move so you are free to act immediately, they have to hit or be blocked to do this, and you can’t normally rc projectiles. FRC is move specific and only some moves have them. Gunflame frc is a good example as it lets you move immediately to be very plus or combo after gunflame. Use fd to push people back and try to instant block during blockstrings by quickly releasing back and then returning to holding back.
I think this guy’s video is also pretty good https://youtu.be/2I83GsQGg6U
In general dustloop should have most info you need
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>>743233150
you should stop living in the real world for being lazy. laziness is a disqualification for your matter to continue existing. hurry up and kill yourself
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>>743233174
I should’ve added that FRCs can be done even on whiff. or before the startup completes, depending on the frc window.
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>>743233174
thanks anon, this is what I've been looking for, you're an angel and I would kiss you on the lips in this instant
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>>743230784
Kakuto Chojin has some off-brand characters.
>Somali Muslim nakmuay (Muay Thai)
>Spanish female Interpol agent trained in vague "Combat Arts"
>French karateka - bold and brash
>American pit fighter ex-soldier who (intentionally?) looks like Tyler Durden from Fight Club
>Japanese capoeirista heiress
>Hong Kong kung fu evil fat bastard
>Argentinian pro wrestler too dangerous for most rings
>Unknown augmented ninja
>American kung fu assassin/mercenary lady trained and betrayed by aforementioned fat bastard
>Japanese Bruce Lee tribute character (Jeet Kune Do) out to avenge his father
>Norwegian taekwondoka thought to be a child of prophecy who wears an ancient mask and eventually goes insane
>Hong Kong bajiquan teenager in his rebellious phase
>Final boss is some demon chick
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>>743233217
One last thing I'll bring up and then I'll drop it since you're devolving into just telling people to kys out of impotent seethe
If genetics weren't a thing then you'd have no issue with MtF "women" competing with biological women in sports or even E-sports right? Because everyone is equal and all you need is hard work there's no issue right?
Lmao this is what you are saying by denying genetics as a factor. Yes hard work and determination always play big parts but to only deny genetics is retarded and delusional.

People are not equal. This is a fact no matter how much you want to deny it.
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>>743233640
you literally lack the gene to continue existing in this reality. For being inferior you must kys
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>>743232996
Roman Cancels are to cancel your attacks for conversions or to make your attack safe/continue your pressure. However they cost 50% tension and you need to make your attack connect with the opponent. FRC's are more preferred. They cost 25% tension and can be done even if you don't touch the opponent, but require precise timing, 2~4 frames. Along with the benefits of what Roman Cancels offer, FRC's also greatly increase the potency of your mixup/pressure.
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>>743233150
One of the most iconic, legendary and best players in all of basketball is literally a white guy.
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>>743233871
Not those anons, but I assume you're talking about Larry Bird.
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>>743234028
No one else could it be. Pretty sure he's basically the godfather of modern basketball too if I recall. The anon schizoing out can't even be called a white supremacist seething at browns, he's just an insecure idiot.
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Why does Chipotle love FGC but no other food?
Evo, Sf6, 2XKO sponsored
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>>743234393
jive was sponsored by arbys lol
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>>743220754
>Walking barefoot in some nondescript Southeast Asian city
You're mad.
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I forgot for a moment that the FGC is literally filled with trannies kek
So that's why the you are not equal posts caused such a stir.
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>>743230784
>loud spaniard who uses judo
Budget el fuerte
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>>743234967
How long is the nerf bat gonna be in the trinity update?
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>>743235138
El Fuerte is a wrestler.
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>>743235194
They will buff Rachel. If Rachel gets hit, George speeds up instead of going away. jB will once again hit overhead. 2C will become a frame 1 guardpoint.
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>>743235198
same thing, different clothes
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>trinity update
>KWABchel removed from game
>raquel added to game
here i fixed it
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>>743235451
Ah yes the Carl Clover murder patch
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>>743215430
>futashit
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>>743232328
>right now I'm inclined to go for May because she seemed very straight forward
may is genuinely a hard as fuck character in +r
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im to inteligent for retard plus and just play strive which is an better game without the icky animekuso mechanics
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>>743235194
>lower damage
>george has less hp
probably just that if they did do a patch
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>>743237750
What are the chances of Shun Di being in the new VF game?
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>>743237962
Shun Di was already a fossil. It would be extremely difficult to expect him to survive/remain playable after a 10+ year timeskip.
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>>743234130
>No one else could it be.
Jerry West? He's literally the logo
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>>743238078
bummer
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Is Rivals of Aether 2 worth $30? Normally I'd wait for it to go on sale or something, but because characters are free I'd consider buying it at full price.
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>>743238382
Rivals of Aether, as a whole, has positioned itself as the strongest non-Smash platform fighter on the market, in a subgenre long since famed to be "Smash or bust". Others are still trying their hand at it, like Combo Devils, but if you're looking for Smash alternatives, RoA is as strong a place to start as any.
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>>743235580
You're an idiot.
>>743235451
Hopefully Rachel will be nerfed into the ground along with Carl, Arakune, Mai, Susano and Izanami.
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>>743238585
they could nerf arakune to the ground and he will still annoy you to death anon, his tier list ranking doesn't even matter considering he's not even that good, and susano is genuinely just a skill issue
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>>743238382
Not a fighting game
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>>743238850
I think we can accept platform fighters as a viable subgenre of fighting game, even if Smash is famously insular and doesn't interact with the broader scene.
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>>743238683
Arakune is almost always placed just below top tier in tier lists despite having one of the most polarizing match up spreads in the game which is a testament to how strong his win condition is. Even in his bad MUs all he needs to do is land 1 hit to secure the round, he is definitely good.
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>>743238850
at this point sf6 and tekken are more of a party game than platform fighters are so i can accept rivals.
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>>743239002
god modern fighting games are so shit....
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>>743227768
I mostly agree.
I only take issue with
>An example of that would be picking Sagat in vanilla SF4 or a Shoto in general in SF4 thanks to DP-Trade = low cost (preserved meter) + instant gratification (visual feedback) = %GAINS
but only from my personal experience rather than practical evidence.

I find shoto characters (and other "pick up and play") characters are often too lame to warrant extensive play in both visual and gameplay designs. Sure, you can tap the ~3 necessary button combinations and win, but you won't feel pride in victory. If anything, you will become bored because you won too quickly.

Meanwhile, the complicated characters
>like C.Viper, El Fuete, etc
are over-designed both visually and mechanically.
So not only are they ugly to look, but it seems daunting if you actually want to invest the time into learning their special movesets.

In both extremes, too much of a good thing is bad.
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>>743238585
Who do you play that’s so honest
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>>743239132
what is your example of a perfectly designed character
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>>743238683
You don't play the game lol
>susano is genuinely just a skill issue
Imagine saying this when a Susano SUB MAIN LITERALLY beat one of the greatest BB players of all time at Evo two weeks ago. IMAGINE. You'd have to be RETARDED to make that statement unironically. Are you RETARDED? Please answer yes or no. Thank you.
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>>743239162
Unlimited izanami
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>>743239819
>this character beat fenritti he MUST be nerfed
ok dude lmfao
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>>743234130
>No one else could it be
No love for the GOAT George Mikan I see. Man played keepaway so hard they had to invent the shot clock to counter him. smdh
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>>743219973
What the fuck am i supposed to do with these redundant coupons?
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>>743239819
going by this logic, carl should never be nerfed
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>>743239891
I see you didn't answer the question, so it obviously must be yes since you can't answer something so simple and seem to lack the ability to understand layered context.
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GIVE ME A BLAZBLUE WITH NOTHIN'
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>>743239891
Yeah Bullet has gone unpunished far too long
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>>743240108
Xcal won evo last year and terrorized majors for a year. Carl deserves a nerf, you're just disingenuous.
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>>743239446
Again, personally, I believe it would be Dante and Taskmaster in Marvel vs Capcom 3. Both of them worked like toolboxes for me.
Dante plays just like his Devil May Cry 3 self, so if you played that game you can do just fine with him. Use Stinger to advance, use Artemis to cover entering enemies, use Nevan/Agni & Rudra to hit airborne enemies, etc. . The unique attack button layout of Weak, Medium, and Heavy attacks being assigned to his weapons helps differentiate between them all, too.
Taskmaster is arguably a shoto (ignore Ryu in the roster) because of how basic he plays. However, he has a tool for every situation copied from other characters. Even his specials are arrows for range and combos, and a retaliation with his shield when in close range.

I also enjoyed Cody in Street Fighter 4 because his moves are basic enough to not be confused, but special enough to not just be another Ryu-clone/shoto. Plus, like Dante and Taskmaster, each of his unique attacks can be used for a purpose. You see an enemy jumping, you hit the Criminal Upper. You want the knife for extra damage, you grab it.

I am certain everyone has a type of character they enjoy playing the most, which keeps the fighting game genre interesting. For me, I prefer jack-of-all-trades characters that can respond to anything while being able to mix it up.
Specialists like Brawlers and Zoners just don't hit the same, while Shotos are usually too dull to be excited for. I think that's why people generally prefer Ryu to Ken: aside from minor gameplay differences, he's basically Ryu with flair.
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>>743240272
but fenritti, one of the greatest bb players of all time beat him so like he can't be that strong
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>>743240317
I'll admit the only reason I could perceive Xcal getting away with being so dominant is that no one in the west labbed Carl so he just got away with murder, but Carl is still a faggot ass character. At least Relius is more fair.
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Imagine if ASW just leaves the game as is except with Trinity being Ultra Instinct Nine now that would be funny.
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what's the point of playing a 10 year old game if i still have to hear about patch faggotry?
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>>743240613
You never know when devs will go back and update old games.
>VF5 REVO featured the first balance patch since release of Final Showdown, 14 years ago
>Art of Fighting 3 is getting two new characters and a balance patch, over 30 years since its release
Imagine if +R got an update and became +RX.
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>>743240759
please give venom a real anti air that isn't air grab
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>>743240613
Don't worry, BBCF will stay the same for another 10 years until future ArcSys notices that there are people STILL playing it
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>>743223464
>mk11 has more players than 1
HUH?
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>>743240957
Also let us hope this isn't a game breaking, DBFZ tier final patch.
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>>743240584
trinity powers is that she can heal and create items/bodies doe
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>>743241175
cool, been a while since I've played all the story modes and I don't recall her detailing her powers cuz she was a staff 99% of the time
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>>743241018
MK1 is banned in Russia, which is a large portion of PC MK playerbase
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>...and this is our sons room! hes quite the gamer you see
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>>743241971
i want a gii plushie
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>>743232218
I don’t really think she knows how to play mortal kombat, pretty sure i could beat her with my NoobSaibot
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>>743229523
>TAEKWONDO
After reading God of Highschool, I want Taekkyon to get a shot
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>>743229523
Koreans get mad at the Japanese for not portraying their characters well. There was genuinely controversy back when Juri got added to SSF4 because she was a dishonorable TKD character
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>>743235194
who actually needs buffs though
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>>743241175
I hope she does AEGIS REFLECTA
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Big news for Ultimate Sonic Smackdown
Metal Sonic, Tails, and Blaze will be added Soon(TM)
After which, development will change hands, as the creator is too busy to be able to focus on the game in a full time capacity. New project lead is someone already working on a patch for old SSD that includes Neo Metal Sonic, and has previously broached the idea of returning from 3v3 to 1v1 (although I think that's gay since USSD is one of the only MvC3-styled tag sloppa games out there)

This will all happen sometime after CEO this year.
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>>743241971
that's a 40yo ojisan's room for sure
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>>743242662
give kagura his bike
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>>743242662
Nu needs her dragon install
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>>743235194
Definitely nerfing anyone in top 10 to some degree.
The real concern is how hard they buff the rest of the cast. Game is in a worse spot if they decide the easy characters should be the group to dominate the game.
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does anyone in vf or doa use krav maga
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I press 6c 6d and throw in between and i win
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>>743242487
>There was genuinely controversy back when Juri got added to SSF4 because she was a dishonorable TKD character
With weird hair. That was all before she very immediately became the face of Street Fighter IV, surpassing C. Viper and Abel.
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>>743242662
buff jubei by removing his always crouching state
that's it
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>>743243819
imagine not taking your turn on +1
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>>743235194
Sigh, they haven't announced anything about a balance patch. I really hate you faggots baiting others as well as the faggots assuming they announced a balanced patch Blazblue is good is because the current game is perfect. Balance patch makes the game un-perfect.
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anyone up for mbaacc?

>>743222779
F's blue fire and regular orbs don't work with lumina shield. And without that she's an underwhelming shoto
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>>743235194
In all honesty I hope they don't touch the other characters. CF is at a decent point right now and the last thing it needs is ASW fucking it all up with their retarded approach to balance
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>>743242715
I mean Nine already has a mediocre one.
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i can't wait to hear the new vocal themes when they make bb strive
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIaD_9g_gUo spidey tokon guide
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>>743244960
The age of terrible Spidey normals is gone.
No longer will spideyplayers suffer at the hands of crouch M and standing H
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>actually release characters in a timely manner
>finally, no "four characters per 1.5 years" bullshit in a modern day fighting game
>almost all of the DLC are low tier
What did SNGay mean by this? Do other fighting game DLC take so long because they actually bother to balance the characters? What good is 12 characters a year if they're all shit?
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>>743244960
is it just me or does every character in this game have a ton of sauce
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>>743245334
It has more than I was expecting, I can admit that much. I'm glad the solo potential isn't completely fucking stilted and reliant on EX moves to launch.
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>>743245328
I thought having consistently strong launch base characters is good?
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>>743231694
>magical car series with a cheater car
kwabmilton is washed
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Jfc the platform wars are raging too much
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>>743245613
Based Daru
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>>743245629
Smelees mad
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>>743244960
WEB SWING
WEB SWING
WEB SWING
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>>743245328
Karate, Mr. Big and Krauser make up for the rest.
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is krauser actually good? he's the only cotw character i enjoyed playing so far
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>>743246589
Does it matter, anon? Are you a tier fag? Don't be a tier fag
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>>743246589
He's not Mr. Karate but still very good
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wheres da disney fighting game
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>>743247713
mickey6
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>>743231694
>Formula 1 is a white mans sport and the greatest formula 1 racer of all time is a nigga.
it doesn't mean anything on other categories, not even Alonso couldn't make it so far on Indy 500 and you get the audacity to say it's the best motorsport ever when, even nurburgring 24h, 24 LeMans and WEC get more respect than F1, this is a prime example of a kino finish on Motorsports.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubt9vnioGyA


>>743216552
>VFC devs took the literal Korean Shoes fashion wrong
LMAO

>>743216552
SKoreans Love Hwoarang a lot, they screamed of happiness when he was announced on Tekken 8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAxBPSqomfw
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>>743246589
If you think he's fun, just play him. Reyland got him to top 8.
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>>743248082
meter shouldn't carry across rounds.
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>>743248236
neither player used meter though, why would it matter
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Are there any characters in CotW similar to Jam and Juri? I like how you can build a stock to enhance a special.
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>>743245334
Yes and no
It's there but pointless if you don't have to use it
However they mentioned wanting to incentivize you doing much more damage if you rotate all your attacks and characters during combos
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>>743248614
no lol
99% of snk characters are just cookie cutter rushdown characters that play almost the same
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>>743248614
Kenshiro kind of. His supers and some of his specials mark you and if he hits you again while marked, those moves get different properties.
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>>743248614
Play KOFXV instead, there's a juri rival feet queen
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>>743248082
Donald is in SF6??????
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>>743224341
Hah. At least he isn't playing that tranny game anymore.
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>>743248614
Blue Mary kinda reminds me of old GG Jam with how she chains her specials, not that special into special is unique in CotW but hers remind me of jam doing like 2D>slide>ryujin>gekkirin or whatever, and she's got a sway she can guard cancel into and command grab out of kinda like jam parry and followup
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Is there a way to reduce the bullies from joining central fiction lobbies? Can you set a skill level limitation?
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>>743249473
No, best you can do is name the lobby something like Beginners Only and avoid fighting orange and pink squares.
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>>743249650
dont do this, it creates carl players
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it's ironic for an snk fag to call anyone else an esl
just sayin
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>>743242662
Rachel shouldn’t get negative penalty for using wind
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>>743248946
That’s disappointing
>>743248980
I’ve already have a KoF waifu
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>>743245328
see, the things you posted in green text, is actually an average post of a normal snkfag trying to shit on other companies to try and put snk over
other characters take long because they actually do more than the bare minimum to make them which includes the modeling and texturing phase where snk is so fucking basic at those things
and not to mention asset flipping, especially geese who was already in the fucking game as is, same model and everything
everything about snk is basic bare minimum corner cutting with the results looking like an amateur hour project for college, and snk's fanboys act like that's something to be proud of
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>>743249473
I think you can set network color limit, to match your own or lower, but color doesn’t really show that much in terms of skill
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKSlc4gyvbQ
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>>743248614
>>743249187
this anon is right, blue mary is your best bet
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>>743250096
>I’ve already have
saar
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>>743245334
I hope it's real
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>>743250654
how many languages do you speak?
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>>743240759
>Imagine if +R got an update and became +RX.
if they touch slayer in any way I'm ending it all
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>>743250724
you're gonna count a language you can't even do correctly? lol
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>>743251075
I speak english better than you speak spanish hermano
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>even do
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>>743251075
fuck blud be talm bou
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>>743251189
that's a very low bar to set for you're self
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I'm 100 hours on sf6 and my winrate is still 10% should I give up
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>>743251308
do you know you can block
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>>743251350
Yeah but I can't block when I'm minus
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>want to play Amane cuz he's cool
>have to learn a fuckload routes and actively play around teching
>conversions are so jank even good players drop em all the time
god damnit am I really cursed to live in the hibiki mines until the end of time?
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When Arc System Works going to make The Idolmaster vs Love Live?
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>>743251562
you can't block when you're punishable
if you're -2 nobody gives a shit, and if you're -4 and out of jab range, you're safe
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What makes a fighting game? What make something a fighting game while another isn't? Why aren't platform fighters fighting games?Are the games based on martial art sport fighting games?
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>>743248946
Yes, bro. Everyone knows Billy and Tizoc play exactly the same, and if you end up in bronze, it's the game's fault, not yours.
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>>743251809
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just like it's ronaldo's fault that snk can't get an audience for cotw
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New competitive SLOP trend is taking off.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgHvdCcmQ4o
1.5 million views. Time to discuss the "Macro" "Micro" and "Meso" fighting games

What's Blazblue?
What's Strive?
What's SF6?
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As Relius, what do you do about people rolling on wakeup out of duo bios
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>>743251572
the playerbase picks the same few rushdown characters for a reason. old anime games are very time consuming.
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>>743251792
Then I'll keep losing because everyone punishes me for 70% of my hp while I can't do a 3 hit combo
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>>743252595
learn how to do a 3 hit combo
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>>743252284
This is just body/mind/heart with a new coat of paint.
>To classify a game, ask yourself how you would cheat in it
Shut the fuck up, guy.
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>>743252631
I forget combos mid match
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>>743252371
Ideally you shouldn't be using duo bios until you see the white flash to know they neutral teched.
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>>743252724
dont
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>>743252284
Most modern fighting games are super Meso heavy but also have Macro. Older games were a mix of Micro+Meso. Certain games like Fate UC are pure Micro games.
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>>743252284
can you not
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>>743240818
but low to the ground air grab
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>>743252284
Blazblue is Macro+Meso. too many fucking knowledge checks
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>>743240613
Isn't that what happen to P4AU? The console version was running on an older patch, and when they ported it to PC they used a newer patch. I think all the Shadow characters were considered top tier in that version.
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>>743250587
Will I start getting gray hair if I pick up Millia?
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>>743250187
Whatever helps you cope with paying 30 dollars for 4 characters, I guess.
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>>743252284
what the fuck is meso
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>>743253209
Can't
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>>743254225
whatever helps you cope that snk is a dimeless company that sells only 9k copies of a game and has to sell its game for pennies on the dollar now to try and desperately get people interested and still nobody cares

oh but you can totally get a match in three seconds because it works on your machine
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Post mains
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>>743254346
meso sorry
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>>743254451
Yes, I can get matches every time I start the game so your zoomie ramblings are very literally not my problem.
Enjoy your slime shit or whatever the fuck you play that has 30 dollar season passes. I'm sure the characters are """very high quality so it's worth it""" lmao
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>>743254591
sorry fowa?
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>>743254582
why do you post the same posts on cycle 24/7
what mental illness diagnosis do you have?
is that early age alzhermiers?
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>>743254701
thx i will lmao
snk = gayew
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>>743254225
>>743254701
Don't bother with that poster, anon. That's some ESL that's utterly OBSESSED with SNK. He resides in the any topic that involves SNK just to basically shitpost and talk about how much he hates them all the time in the general thread on /vg/, and basically anything that invokes the company in any way. He's like the Barry guy that's in the Final fantasy threads. Don't know what SNK of all companies did to manage to get a mentally-ill person like that.
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>>743251809
>Does it play like a fighting game
>Yes
its a fighting game
>No
its not a fighting game
>Did you have to use the words "non traditional"
its not a fighting game
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>>743255009
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE STOP TALKING ABOUT FIGHTING GAMES IN THE FIGHTING GAME THREAD YOU ARE TRIGGERING MEEEEEE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Actual mental illness, seek therapy.
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>>743255149
that actually is alzheimers syndrome
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Rachel's worst matchups?
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>>743255059
You aren't fooling anyone SNKuso shill schizo
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>>743253126
You can actually do it on reaction?
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>>743255232
Omega-Rugal
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>>743255232
Carl, Es, and Naoto I think. Maybe Mai. Just my opinion from watching tournaments and playing her a bit.
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>>743252284
Melty blood is all three. That’s why it’s still alive
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Aris made me realize something. You can tell how many people here play Modern games and don't play Hardcore games based on their general discussions about Hardcore games.
For example, people talking about Balance Patches for BBCF constantly are Modern Coded players. They don't wanna learn the match up, they don't wanna waste time. If people complain enough the top tier characters will get nerfed so what's the point in learning those match ups? That a very modern coded mentality. That's how all the modern games are. You don't need to learn the match when you know it'll be nerfed next patch. This even applies to learning technical combos. Why spend 100 hours leaning the "[Player Name] corner loop" when the devs are going to release a balance patch that'll remove the [Player Name] corner loop next patch? Under night players love their game because it's old game coded. you get a 1.0 then a 1.1 a whole year later. The investment isn't thrown away after like 3 months in modern games.

So you can I literally SEE when you faggots are casual fucks based on your dumbass mindset towards older games like BBCF. Thanks for outing yourselves
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>>743255926
I don't mind playing UMvC3 but i need a new game not a fucking 25 year old boomer game which has not had patch for centruries
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>>743255926
ok but can I get a new +R patch
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>>743255926
>If people complain enough the top tier characters will get nerfed so what's the point in learning those match ups? That a very modern coded mentality. That's how all the modern games are.
Leo has been top tier for the entirety of Strive
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>>743255775
>That’s why it’s still alive
huh
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>>743254346
According to this guy, essentially
>Micro is body - pure motor control
>Meso is mind - mind games, and knowledge of game and game state, a.k.a. tactics
>Macro is heart - strategy, large scale planning
This guy says all fighting games are micro + meso: body and mind, no heart. Which is bullshit.
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>>743256171
no we dont need one its perfect already
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>>743256059
you hype for tokon bro? I'm thinking it'll be peak! especially at launch. I'm going to start my stream career with tokon
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>>743255926
Both you and aris sound like you don't really any modern games or the community since there are many obvious exceptions to this faulty premise
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>>743223290
you can't be like "wow good on gdq for taking the high ground and refusing snk's saudi money" when you went to evo this year man
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>>743255926
This shit isn't exclusively about fighting games, btw. But the whole mental illness of grinding ranked definitely contributed to it. For some reason, the average moron still thinks ranked actually means something.
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>>743255926
sf6 and strive have had the same top tiers for their whole lifespan
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>>743256489
vol'skimmer was 4channer in /tekgen/ when he started hes streaming career https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HMAeIcvdU8
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>>743255343
Yes, by the time the white flash occurs they're locked into blocking duo bios at that point. It's still kind of a read though since you won't be able to cover rolls while doing it so you need to make them scared to roll by conditioning them with stuff like 214C to cover those options.
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>>743255926
>Aris
did she really say that
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>>743256426
but i cant block dizzy's mix
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I don't really like this dichotomy but it should be obvious to anyone with even passing familiarity with the genre that "macro" in fighting games is meter management and character strategy. Like even the simplified modern fighting games have elements of this. When people play SF6 and they're on the same character, there're motherfuckers who just burn out for damage immediately and there're people who save all their resources for drive rush confirms. Dudes who dump super on every interaction and dudes who're trying to save it for as long as possible.

If a micro cheat under this context is perfect inputs scripts, and a meso cheat is like an input reader that tells you your opponent buffered a frame trap, a macro cheat would be like a hack that gives you slightly more meter gen. Maybe I'm misunderstanding this but I think the more common scenario of blocking players who beat you and only rematching winning games in SF6 ranked ladder also qualifies as a macro cheat.
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>>743256593
Certain character will always filter people like you regardless of how many times you nerf them. Arakune will always be a problem for casual fags no matter which version of Blazblue you pick. They will always hate fighting Arakune
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>>743215335
Never understood how people play blazblue. You die in 3 combos. May as well just have a game where you die in 3 hits.
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>>743257629
im not filtered by anyone other than maybe vergil in mvc3
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>>743257680
how many fighting games dont have you die in three combos
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>>743257680
Man what game isn't three touch anymore. Blazblue matches somehow last longer on average than most modern fighting games, the last game that came out where time outs are common was MBTL and you can still chain confirm into three touch in that title.
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>>743257721
*looks at all the modern games*
uhm...well..........
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>>743257689
that doesn't stop what I said about Arakune and casual fag no matter which version of blazblue. he's been in all versions. you're missing the point simply because I wrote "you" lmao
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>>743257680
hey bro, if you actually engaged with the defensive mechanics and learn to neutral, the game actually has some back and forth
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>>743257520
for me, 'micro v macro' has always been about overarching decisions vs subtle mastery things like spacing and timing. Airdashing in on someone from fullscreen is macro, weaving in and out of range to whiff punish is micro.
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>>743257680
it's good because it's an old game
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Why aren't you playing the best* fighting game ever

*according to our Mexican brothers
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>>743257680
Only if you repeatedly whiff a dp and get fatal countered 3 times in a row
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>>743257680
>May as well just have a game where you die in 3 hits.
sf2, samsho, bushido blade
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>>743258340
>get hit by heavy slash
>die
Woow dood
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>>743257932
That's a good example yeah. There're a lot of decisions you make during a game that aren't based on execution or knowledge and all of them should be called macro.
If we throw different fighting games on the chart, Melty Blood is the very clear "macro" game among fighters. Execution is generally pretty easy even though MBTL filters a lot of modern players but it's not that bad and the older titles were very easy to execute for their time so it's not a micro game. Match up knowledge isn't very significant in the meta-game so much as your ability to run your own game plan and adapt on the fly so it's not a meso game. The games are very much about how you manage resources and come up with plans.
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>avatar isn't even out yet and it's already above 2xko in entrants for CEO
oof
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It's absolutely over for Tekken 8. Tokon dethroned it.
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>>743259303
>>743259325
city of the flops absolute last place kekopolis
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I like both Avatar and Tokon, I hope they succeed
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>>743259303
>>743259325
In a way i regret buying Invincible .VS
But i did my part in supporting the FGC scene.
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>>743259636
>In a way i regret buying Invincible .VS
Is the game dead I already? I tried the beta test but I wasn't really feeling it.
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Tokon gonna flop since you can't play it on steam in 134 countries lmao I can't wait for the steam chart shitposts
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>>743259303
GBVSR finally falls off. It was a valiant llife time for a fighter that should've been dead year ago
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>>743259721
has a small loyal playerbase on PS5 buy it on sale
its not a bad game but for some reason FGC didnt like it
it has killed soundtrack though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzfG5yRKnDw
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>>743259303
>>743259325
where's Under Night? I thought it was a good game, what happened?
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Anyone up for some Fightcade/Blazblue/Soku?
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>>743259303
>>743259325
WHY
IS
STRIVE
NOT
DEAD
YET?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
WHAT THE FUCK DO I HAVE TO DO TO SEE THIS FUCKING EVIL GAME DEAD FUUUUUUUUCK
how long has it been and this piece of shit is still here
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>>743259903
its just played offstage and at the bathroom stalls instead bro
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>>743259903
Isn't it a CEOtaku thing than CEO itself?
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>>743259463
That game pretty much got canceled on release.
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>>743259721
>>743259847
The Invincible fandom couldn't get into it because tag fighters are hard and you get destroyed very easily if you dont know the basics (most of them skipped the tutorial), ragequits were super common, all they wanted was the story mode and tons of gore and maybe easy button mashing.
As for the FGC, probably because it looks cheap, characters are very samey gameplay wise and the only tag fighter they like is Marvel vs. Capcom (specifically UMVC3).
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>>743260078
CEOtaku is on indefinite hiatus
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>>743260013
It’s an ideology rather than a fighting game, for a certain group.
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>>743260167
I don't think UNI's numbers were going to be high to begin with to rank highly against the larger games. Even at its own dedicated scene was just shy of 500.
It's biggest tourney numbers ever was in 2019 with 1100.
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>>743260084
by its own ugly ahh ps3 grafics
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>>743259738
Hilarious how Tokon is expected to be in EVO Morocco, yet nobody can play it there thanks to Sony's retardation.
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>>743259903
UNI2 got worse with each patch and DLC character
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>>743260957
I don't know UNI but I hear a lot of UNI players dog on UNI2. What's the actual deal there? They didn't Strive or SF6 it right?
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>PLEASE DONT ABANDON UMVC3!!! PLEASE DONT BUY TOKON!!!!
lol at marvel vs cucks boomers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IVtAMPgwho
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>>743261161
SF6 and MHMilds made me allergic to Capcom
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>>743261161
capcom even tried to like update umvc3 but their vibe coded update broke game and had to rollback it
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>>743261059
Things were made simpler, but that bit is only noticeable if you've played CLR since hit-stun got lengthened on a number of attacks.
Everyone still does high damage and the multiple shotos' overall advantages are incredibly strong.
Any stray hit can lead into a significant advantage and certain setplay characters can really abuse how much meter can be gained on momentum.
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>>743261059
Mostly poor balance, overly nerfed some characters like Vatista
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Any modern fighting game characters with a similar playstyle to Doronjo?
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>>743261694
Still doesn't compare to Chaos who went from decent in CLR to useless again in 2.
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>>743261742
Lowain in GBVS. You don't see striker characters much anymore.
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>>743261742
Literally Captain Ginyu.
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Learning fight games is especially fun when you're retarded
https://litter.catbox.moe/mp3vp8znfwbc8kag.mp4
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>>743262076
so glad these glue sniggers stay away from tokon
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>>743262076
i hoped that was some mai porn animation
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Any Bullet mains have tips on double snap hands after j.D on the corner?
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>>743262076
what is the way here?
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I really want to die everyone is horrible everywhere all the time.
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>>743262560
you can just hold c on the xxC mash normal for it to stop at the max amount of hits so it allows you to do the 236 dash and then you can also just durning the dash mash 4a and so you wont get 236a instead
its pretty epik that combo trials dont explain you this i know
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>>743262076
So these are the types of players that are getting into blazblue nowadays huh...
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>>743262639
Least suicidal Chaos main
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>>743262883
There are no Chaos mains.
There's only me right now. There was a Mika player who used to sub Chaos back in the day though.
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>>743261804
Damn, I'm literally doing his missions right now since I wanted to see what he was like. His dog is really weird, I don't know if I've played a puppet character that uses button holds to walk them forward combined with a stance that holds them in place.
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>>743261897
>striker
That's the word i was looking for. Looked up Lowain. The archetype matches, but it just doesn't feel the same if it's not a lady villain and her two dumbass henchmen. Guess Doronjo's unique in that regard
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>>743262880
ranked is free as fuck right now got so many characters to lvl 30
cant progress pass that because of how the autistic way the fucking ranked system works
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>>743263028
Do you count Juda from Hokuto no Ken?
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>>743262926
>There are no Chaos mains.
Good I don't miss you guys at all
>roundstart mirror
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>>743262926
4chan isn't the entire world.
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Do Mu-12 players exist?
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>>743263042
I still don’t feel like playing ranked. I feel like having something on the line makes me play worse.
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>>743263159
weakest murakumo im afraid
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>>743259325
NA scene for Tekken 8 just gave up. Ninjakilla is a prodigy with not a strong competitive scene.

>>743259738
Probably Tokon will live on NA and Europe. Sony is making damage control with Destiny EoS and Marathon flopping, but they like to consume slop even with not physical disks.
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>>743263152
>losing to roundstart 6C
Stop fucking assaulting on roundstart.
>>743263154
No but 4chan /v/ is an incredibly small place as far as UNI is concerned.
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>>743263028
Parasoul is that but Skullgirls is real old now. Striker characters are definitely one of those archetypes like puppet characters and negative edge characters that've been chopped down since they're too complicated for people thse days.
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>>743263159
Every good Noel player has a pocket Mu but actual Mu mains are few and far between.
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>>743263140
>Juda
you fucking spic
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every millia i face online never stops running around and airdashing like a crackhead i can't react to that shit
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>>743263374
> i can't react to that shit
lol better uninstall fighting games you fucking boomer
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>Started to win more consistently
>But notice that most other characters do like 3k damage without meter, while I do 2k at best.
>Don't have confidence to try the Drive cancel combos online, so I just do the basic combo everytime.
Worst part is, the few times I've landed it I see its a blue combo, so I didn't actually do it.
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>>743263140
forgot about him. yeah, he fits. but didn't he have a reppuken style projectile, like his specials weren't entirely tied to his henchmen?
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>>743263374
Which GG?
Similar to Chipp, Millia can also explode if she stops moving
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>>743263648
strive, its probably just that i don't really have the character knowledge yet but her throwing out that fuckass disc and then zipping around like a psycho its really hard to keep track of. trying to fish for 6ps and i get owned lol. i'm sure this is just 100% me being knowledge checked tho, i feel the same about chipp but to a lesser extent
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>>743263374
I like to do this when she puts the disc on me it lasts the whole duration I think
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>>743263028
Diesel Legacy has exactly what you're looking for. This wannabe mafioso has two lunkhead goons who follow her around and help out with attacks and gunfire.
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>>743263791
boomer just uninstall and go play marvel rivals
just stay away from fighting games they are not for you
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>>743261742
ginyu in dbfz is sick as hell, does nappa count too?
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There's something hilarious about the last character in FighterZ being another fucking Goku.
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>>743263456
wyd you mean blue combo
you mean the blue ! that signalizes that he got hit by air unblockable normal
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>>743264181
Blue Combo as in something the opponent didn't tech out of.
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>>743264181
A blue beat means they didn't tech out of the combo when they could have. It's the same as a black beat combo in Gear.
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>>743264208
who calls it like that
thats called invalid combo
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>>743264036
i like fighting games tho and i hate shooters... even if i'm getting owned by milia i'm having fun
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>>743264164
Personally I am salty that if I wanna play Kid Goku I have to cope with GT Goku and now with Daima it will only get worse with future Dragon Ball games.

>>743264181
Blue as in there was a point the opponent could have tech out but failed to do so
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>>743264262
Because the combo number turns blue instead of the usual red.
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>>743264476
it also shows the invalid crossed circle next to damage
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>>743263791
You don't want to 6P Millia because it takes a lot of time to recover and she has a billion ways to alter her air trajectory. Even if she double air dashes at range, she can still do Kapel and blow you out for doing 6P
Universally, 5P/5K can catch her jumps while having enough time to recover if you're wrong
Air throw is really good, but some characters barely get oki on it, and it loses to Kapel
Some characters like Ky, Johnny, Testament have a really good jS they can use to stuff her air approach

Don't burst on 2D>Disc, try blocking the mixup and then burst if you're scared, or use Deflect Shield if you don't wanna deal with the mixup
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>i have problem with millia oki
uhh okay fair enough
>Strive millia
lmaoooooooooooo
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>>743261059
Questionable nerfs/buffs. Im of the opinion that UNIST was a fluke, its like the one time the game felt amazing to play
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>>743260013
Comical exaggeration of someone who hates strive aside. the only way strive will die is if a game that looks as good as it does(as in exactly like it not like fucking rising which is the granblue gacha artstyle but 3d), has the same Tekken/ggml damage, has a linear combo system that railroads newcomers into damage like strive, SF and Tekken, and has just enough knowledge checks/complexity to keep shitters wanting to play more, comes into existence. Also it'd have to have strive's rc system and meter gain.
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>>743263004
Just play Carmine because he also has negative edge, but stupid obnoxious setplay and knowledge checks like Zato.
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>>743266003
I'll probably just put off learning a puppet character in Uni until Zohar releases, for now I'm gonna stick with Mika and Merkava.
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OOOO
TYPHOON
OOOO
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>>743242487
I'm curious what they think would be an "accurate" representation, because the most defining Korean FG character is literally Kim Kaphwan who is a justice loving, hotblooded, pure man who abides by the rules and fights off evil and has been a fan favorite for SNK in general, almost as much as Terry and probably even more than Kyo. Like what the fuck else do you want, for him to canonically have a harem and a big cock and become the protagonist of the franchise?



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