uhhh... this is not like skyrim at all. it's boring.
>>743220836uhhh... this is not like skyrim at all. it's boring.
It's exactly like skyrim with less pointless bullshit like sawing logs
I genuinely don't understand what people see in Skyrim. There is so little to do or explore compared to Oblivion, and the leveling system and abilities are trash.
>>743221405This but reversed
>>743220836>it's boringSo it's exactly like Skyrim
>>743221659that makes no senseoblivion literally has more content, a larger world, and abilities etc
I hate nu v making bait threads over and over and over
>>743221704it's literally not a bait I love skyrim I couldn't play this shit more than 15 minutes
>>743221691>oblivion literally has more contentno it doesn't>a larger worldempty world with copypasted caves and dungeons>abilitiesSkyrim have better abilities, you can't even dual wield weapons in Sloplivion
>>743220836That's Fallout 3 if Skyrim is Fallout 4
>>743221757Youre a zoomer i get it but skyrim is a lot more boring than any other TES anonSkyrims story is bland, the combat is bad the exploration is bad
>>743221759>Skyrim haveOhhhhhhh its a jeet ofc it is lmao
>>743221691But it's boring
>Skyrimjob fans crying about copypasted contentYou can't make this shit up, but this is unironically their life
>>743221704wtf is v
>>743221759lol shut the fuck up ESL retard
>>743220836I said this is my favorite game, I never said it was good.
blivi was and still is the best tes although im sad they didnt leave the janky havoc combat
>>743221405It's really accessible and inoffensive. It's kind of like GTA V, you can put someone who doesn't play vidya in front of the screen and he'll learn what to do pretty fast
>>743221804>>743221853Sloplivion sucks
>>743221932Skyrim is bland and absolutely shit
>>743221901Why V especially? All GTA games are braindead easy to get into.
>>743221834it makes me laugh every fucking time
Oblivion has better class fantasy.Being a low level mage is fun, plenty of actually magical quests to do, mages guild is great. Being a thief is great because you actually have castles and guard patrols that matter, skyrim is almost too easy to abuse stealth, but there's nothing to ever steal.
>>743221759absolute retard on display
>>743222017V is much more mainstream than any other GTA
Elder Scrolls was never good
>>743222207I mean it's the latest one, so obviously..
>>743221932A native English speaker would say, "Slopblivion." Just trying to help ya out Shitjeet.
>>743221405After playing heavily modded Bethesda games, any of them, playing vanilla is frankly disgusting
>>743222496yeah but vanilla skyrim is objectively much worse than vanilla oblivion
>>743221405BROO I LOVE MY COPY-PASTED CAVES WOOOO
>>743222712i can't even count how many times i've run into them in skyrim
>>743221790nah man skyrim is lot more fun even non-fantasy players can jump in and play it for hours. idk about the other games since I haven't played them but oblivion is a mf slog. you can tell it's an earlier tes game by how better ironed out skyrim is.
>>743222791Youre black
>>743222791you sound like a nornalfag retardkill yourself
zoomers love skyrim
>>743222835>>743223264lol
>>743220836it lacks commenting followers mods like Skyrim has.
>>743222791>players can jump in and play it for hoursplayers can do that with any game shut the fuck up
>>743223293proven here>>743222791
Well yes your dumb ass played the remaster, which robs the game of its high fantasy aesthetic charm.
>>743221405it was their first rpg. most people who I know or met that like skyrim say it was one of the first games they've played.
>>743223459not with oblivion. it's not possible to be not bored after 30 minutes of playing it.
>>743224537makes sense>>743224717fuck off retard
The dark truth is that Oblivion and Skyrim are EXACTLY as good as one another.There is NOTHING to separate the two.
>>743220836It's like a failed proto-skyrim where they hadn't perfected the formula yet
>>743225006yeah playing it feels exactly like that.if the world didn't turn upside down and they moved onto an even better elder scrolls after skyrim that would've been great.
>>743224863oblivion has good guild quests unlike skyrim
>>743221405I LOVE THE SAME CORRIDOR CAVES AND THE SAME AYLEID RUINS COPY PASTED YESSS
oblivion is the retarded middle child with down syndrome
>>743226178>I LOVE THE SAME CORRIDOR CAVES AND THE SAME DWEMER RUINS COPY PASTED YESSS
Morrowind and Skyrim are better
>>743224863Skyrim has higher res textures and more players and sales, also more modsOblivion has quests, NPC scripting and skills in a higher quality and quantity
i got all the achievements for oblivion remastered. brilliant game. skyrim is good too but it doesn't have the soull oblivion has.
>>743220836It will never not be funny seeing people (re)play Oblivion for the first time in a long while thanks to the demaster and everyone collectively realizing the game sucked all along and Skyrim was always better.>>743221405>There is so little to do or explore compared to OblivionThe Oblivion with the might-as-well-be-copypasted dungeons, zero random encounters and zero unmarked locations in a more poorly constructed open world with less to genuinely explore? That Oblivion? I will admit, you meltdown in every other reply is pretty funny.
>>743221834What Skyrim content is copypasted in relation to Oblivion?
>>743220836
Oblivion was meant to be more fairy tail like and I think it's kino
>>743220836Zoomer mfs when the quests are real and high investment rather than 10 minute Draugr looting stabbing fiesta
>>743227507>ruin the heart of the Empire for a discount High Rock that people then spend the next 20 years making fun ofGreat plan Todd.
>>743227571this some gay tier balding fat millennial solent tier post
>>743227743Wait until you see the second image he loves bot posting in these threads.
>>743221405Viking fantasy setting with Scandinavian inspired mountain environment. That is it
>>743221405Oblivion caves > draunigger tombs
>>743229852Said nobody sane ever.
>>743221759The absolute state of turd worldoid brownoids
>>743229852Skyrim dungeons are better than Oblivion dungeons that are procedurally generated with the same 4 tiles that were designed by one dude.Not to mention environments are more varied and interesting, despite nord tombs being boring you have dwemer ruins. Oblivion is just forts, caves and ayylmao ruins which get as boring as nord tombs (although I still think they're marginally better).
>>743220836Said no one ever.
>>743220836The fun is all in the guild questlinesAnd the Daedra questsAnd the shivering isles
>>743227851Being a flat out better game also helps.
>>743230048>>743229994Skyrim dungeons are long corridors designed so retarded niggermutts such as you don’t get lost in them
i just don't like vikings and scandinavian inspired settings so oblivion is automatically better to me
>>743230517This.It's THAT simple.
>>743221405Skyrim was the first to do what it did at that scale. You had to be there to experience the things that were made staple in the industry>dragons>sense of scale("see that mountain?")>physics>cool dungeons(big entrances, fully animated undead, puzzles)>quest or point of interest around each corner>immersion(visuals, music, believable world)It felt like they tried to make something new, which will come around again when the industry will exhaust all the sequels its been shitting out
>>743230373>long corridors with an incredibly easy way backSounds like Morrowind's ancestral tombs, neat.
>>743230646>sounds like [dogshit game]yep
>>743230517I like vikings and scandinavian inspired settings but Skyrim did an awful job at it, its more akin to siberia exclusion zone rather than actual viking business shit, it felt too much like a two-note theme-park to play through.
>>743221686I replayed it yesterday, made a new character and had fun for hours on vanillaso no, you're wrong
>>743230681>Oblivion 'tards don't like actual good games, just their childhood slop because it reminds them of playing the 360 when they were 8Sounds about right.
>>743221405>There is so little to do or explore compared to OblivionIt's the exact same shit. At least Skyrim has more than one type of cave.
>>743230632>cool dungeonslol, no, they weren't even big or interesting to look at. I think Dungeons and Dragons Online did better job at this.>puzzles.for brain dead retards (you)s.
>>743220836The UE5 zoomer filter removes all soul of the original.
>>743221405Skyrim is Oblivion with all the retarded shit removed (level scaling, shit dialogue system, plastic looking NPCs). The main quest is better and the dragons are more interesting than the Oblivion gates.
>>743222050>but there's nothing to ever stealJust like Oblivion
>>743227792Ayy lmao
>>743230886>niggerwind uncs don’t like actual good games, just brown anti-soul gas slop because it reminds them of getting molested by their drugged-out unc when they were 8sounds about right
>>743220836Ah yes, the filtered zoom.Such is life.
>>743227743Not an argument
>>743222418>if you don't like this, you are a jeetOk Sars, I will keep liking Oblivion, I will keep using AI amd I will keep playing gacha, Sars.Do not redeem my tastes, Sars!
>>743220836this is not like oblivion at all. It's boring.
>>743220836literally all it's missing is procedural world encounters and stupid shit like smithing and woodchopping. and i guess oblivion's alchemy is pretty bad. but it has significantly better quests of the two, especially the guild quests which eclipse skyrim's guilds by a country mile. it has better skills, it has attributes, it has spellcrafting, you get a cool ass wizard tower house thing for FREE, and the cities are iconic and have really great design variety, among many better things. and the default UI is miles better than skyrim's shitty ass default UI, i can't even play skyrim without skyUI at this point.
>>743231061>lol, no, they weren't even big or interesting to look at. I think Dungeons and Dragons Online did better job at this.I actually agree with the unique and narrated dungeons were done better but it almost doesn't count since it's a MMO and has all the arcadeyness of it. But seeing pic related when exploring did give that satisfying fantasy feeling, no matter that the insides were copy/pasted>for brain dead retards (you)s.simplicity doesn't mean it's bad, the opposite. Simple yet well implemented is better than complex and detached.
>>743227507"meant", ljl if you think Bethesda has created tone intentionally since Morrowind
>>743220836this remake is very shitty slop. looks like they hired mercenary devs. 0 talent
>>743231898its all ranjeets and chingus dongs.
>>743231602the arcadeyness only came from the constraints of the game engine and they were all based mostly on game world lore developed for the tabletop RPG version of the game in D&DO, the game was build around 3.5e and yeah, 3.5e dungeons do have more of an arcadey hack and slash feel to it, at least its not like Skyrim where almost every dungeon is just five rooms and then boss, dungeon crawling is a lost art.
>>743221405>There is so little to do or explore compared to the game that has objectively far less to do or exploreWhat did anon mean by this.
>>743231546>it has significantly better quests of the twoHave you stopped to try and actually think for yourself instead of just repeating what some e-celeb told you?
I have to set it to 40% resolution to get 45fps when outside.
>>743232319
>>743221405>>743226178>>743226228>>743229852>>743230632both games have copy-pasted dungeons, but skyrim's lack of idiotic leveling and more streamlined combat make them more bearable compared to oblivion
>>743232117My criticism of the MMO is the tab targeting and floating feeling the combat has where in a singleplayer game combat is more responsive and every hit has solid feedback. In MMOs, no matter how well the dungeon is made, interactions are floaty gamey and arcadey so it kills the immersion.BG3 had good dungeon's IMO. They had nailed the fantasy dungeon aesthetic and the encounters all felt hand crafted and unique. The amount of customization and enviroment interactability felt like you had infinite ways to approach them. You had different options depends on how strong, sneaky charismatic etc your character is. You can shit on 5e all you want but BG3 really made it feel like a full fledged D&D campaign where D&D online was more of a D&D themed MMO theme park
>>743230373So? Morrowind dungeons were also very limited in scope except a very few, I'm still gonna take hand-crafted corridors over procedurally generated slop like Oblivion any day.
>>743220836Next time buy the original as the goty deluxe edition instead.
>>743221405bro oblivion leveling system are literally broken and hard as fuck. what the fuck are you talking about?
>>743233296It doesn't matter that it's copy pasted if normies will only play the first 2 hours and drop the game. First impression is what counts
>>743233296Skyrim objectively doesn't have a single copypasted dungeon. You cannot name a one.
>>743220836But it’s the same game. All Todd games are
>>743220836Genuinely only people that grew up with Oblivion like it. People that like Morrowind can grow to like Skyrim if at least modded. People that like Skyrim can easily go back and enjoy Morrowind's soul. Everyone can go and check out Daggerfall or some of the side games like Redguard if they're interested. Oblivion sits in this awkward middle spot where it's worse than Morrowind, not as refined as Skyrim, has by far the most dumbed down setting and dungeons, and its visuals and NPCs are a meme in and of themselves. It was hilarious seeing all these new players and YouTubers banking hard on Oblivion Remastered being a new Skyrim only to see the interest fall off a fucking cliff a couple months after release.
the best elder scrolls is worse than the worst fallout
>>743220968and without perks and without smithing and enchanting and upgrading gear so every piece of gear you get is only ever as good as it is right now, every enchantment is only ever as good as the sigil stone you got it from.BUT HEY IT HAS SPELLCRAFTING SO THE FAGGOT ASS WIZARDS HAVE SOMETHING TO TINKER WITH!
>>743234237on opposite day
>>743234506Thats what mods are for retard. No vanilla bethesda game has ever been more than a 7.5/10
>>743234649dude i played vanilla oblivion when it came out and i loved it because it was, for me, the first of its kind. put easily 150 hours into that game, especially later with mods. then skyrim came out and i put like 10 hours into the vanilla game because i was more familiar with installing mods. so i put like another 1000 hours into various editions of that game. then reblivion came out and i was expecting bethesda to make certain improvements to the game to bring it more in line with skyrim, but they didn't. played halfway through the story, did most of the brotherhood and haven't touched it since because that game simply needs so so sooo many mods to make it good enough that i wouldn't be constantly asking myself "why am i playing this dogshit when i have skyrim?"
>>743234649>Thats what mods are for retard. The mods that turn Oblivion from a 6 to an 8 and Skyrim from a 7 to a 12?
>>743235564>Skyrim from a 7 to a 12?Post them.
>>743235626Horse vaginas.
>>743235626>he doesn't have a highly curated, personalized modlist he's been slowly but surely been adding to for a decade>he uses C*llections
>>743234649Oblivion is the most unstable game to mod out of all last three mainline ones.Not only you have to overhaul the biggest number of general systems to make a playable game out of it, but you're gonna face crashes by doing so.
>>743233939>skyrimbabbies and morrowniggers can’t handle a hard gameLMAO
>>743235884I accept your concession.
>>743236154>he feels the need to "win" fleeting internet discussions and state it publically so he can "archive the win" in his brainI'm sorry the entire thread is shitting on your favorite game, anon.
>>743234098this
>>743234098not this
>>743234506The enchanting in Oblivion with some of the sigil stone effects is even more broken than Skyrim. Really all you need is the Amulet of Axes/Swords, the Mundane Ring and Spellbreaker. Beyond that, you can just put sigil stone enchants on whatever gear.
>>743236290Shut up nigger, you enter threads of games you don't like. You are the worst nigger on thsi entire website
>>743221691Oblivion's map is extremely empty.
>>743239814Hit a nerve huh.
>>743240045And now you are doing exactly what you're accusing the other anon of doingWhat a dumb monkey
Why does everyone look like JD Vance.
It's obvious that Oblivion is a mid game when fanboys can't actually hold the game to it's own merits, they can only compare it to Skyrim while making broad, sweeping statements with no value (That are often objectively false)This thread happens like once a week, always dies at 100 posts, and is also nothing but shitflinging whereas Skyrim threads will hit bump limit within hours constantly.
Oblivion is the best out of the 3 since there are retard seething about it TIL THIS DAY.
>>743239702And in Skyrim you can enchant every single piece of gear with enchants that can boost anything from health, mana, all combat and magic skills and all crafting skills plus unique enchants that give you completely new abilities. Sorry, it's not even comparable. Oblivion just sucks ass compared to Skyrim.
>>743240391How so? At what point did I state anything even remotely compared to any winning of imaginary fights, over simply knowing my innocuous hour+ old post suddenly make you mad enough to call me the worst nigger in the entire website?
>>743230632there isn't a single cool dungeon in Skyrim
>>743221405As a kid all I ever did was complete the dark brotherhood and thieves guild then make a new character and do them again.
>>743240530this
>entire thread of obliTARDS and skyBABIES fighting who's game is less shitgeg
>>743221405Skyrim likely is a lot of people's first RPG or at least one of them. Bethesda putting in more than the minimum amount of effort to create what is a decent, not empty open world with a good atmosphere and soundtrack must feel revolutionary to them when so few other games bothered
>>743241495Skyrim has nothing but cool dungeons. Why not put your money where your mouth is and list all those cool Oblivion dungeons you definitely remember due to their unique layout, stories and rewards anon?
>>743243143you first
>>743240569Kill yourself, you tasteless little zoomgroid nigger. Oblivion shits all over skyrim and has since the beginning. You fuck ass do three shitty quests and I'm the guildmaster faggot ass nigger. Your pathetic tiny "cities". Your NPCs are barely a step up above Morrowind's. Your world is static as shit and soulless.>>743235920Oblivion takes like three mods to fix and they're all just leveling and loot/scaling. Unlike skyrim where you can mod it forever but the quests will still be putrid dogshit and the NPCs will still be even more lobotomized.
>>743243143Shut up, skyrimnigger.
>>743227792He's here!
>>743221405I don't know how you can think this when Skyrim's dungeons are objectively more varied and interesting
>>743243143bodied that oblivitard
>>743245002Like poetry.
>>743234506>without perksYou get perks every time you get a skill to 25, 50, 75, and 100>without smithingIt exists as a skill its just used for armor repairing with a hammer. When you get armorer to a high enough level you get the perk to repair stuff above its max value. That is how you upgrade gear. Smithing in skyrim is better though.>without enchantingWrong. Not only do you have sigil stones, but you have altars of enchanting in the mages guild and frostcrag spire. You can use soul gems to enchany gear, its just not a levelable skill.>BUT HEY IT HAS SPELLCRAFTINGWhich is single handedly more interesting than all of skyrims systems
>>743241948I might be a Skybaby, but I enjoyed Morrowind much more than I did Oblivion. Even with its archaic gameplay systems, Morrowind hooked me with its lore and setting. Oblivion is way too generic and feels like an awkward half step between the two superior games.
>>743227021>zero random encountersSkyrim doesn't even fucking have random encounters, retard. It's all scripted bullshit you encounter in the same exact way every time. Skyrim was a downgrade in every single system compared to Bethesda's previous games. Fallout 3 has a proper random encounter system. Skyrim has dogshit. Oblivion is far more random than Skyrim could ever hope be, because its NPCs actually go out and do shit like steal if their honor is low enough and they need food. They actually travel between cities and can get killed for it. Far more randomness and emergent scenarios can result from this than Skyrim's braindead "random encounters". Skyrim downgraded practically everything besides the dungeons because they had more than one guy working on them, but even then, they still made them stupid because it's all a single corridor now with the exit at the end.
>>743243925I never stated Oblivion had good dungeons, thoughever. On the contrary, I believe Oblivion to have rather poor, samey, obnoxiously bori dungeons that were done better in both TESIII and TESV.>>743244942>>743240045
>>743245306You're a retard is what you are. Oblivion has by far the best quests and guilds in the series. Skyrim lost so much and only added dual wielding in return, wowie. Morrowind and Oblivion are far superior in every way that matters.
>>743245456It has good quests, sure. But, the world and lore are severely lacking. You're a nigger btw>wowie'llenial moment
>>743220836Skyrim generally has a more comfy atmosphere whereas oblivion is that shitty mid 2000s BLOOM AND HIGH SATURATION EVERYWHERE vibe im addition to its Tommy Wiseau looking NPCs
>>743245530>loreRead a book.
>>743245314Oh no no no no no no no bait-bros, our images are not working and are being immediately rebutted...
>>743245607>implyingEven outside of what I said, Oblivion's gameplay feels like you are wacking enemies with a wet noodle. Morrowind's dice roll system is better. It wasn't until Skyrim that the melee had any sort of weight.
>>743245435>poor, samey, obnoxiously bori dungeonsbut enough about Skyrims dungeons
>>743245435Objectively true
>>743245772>three swings and a killcamwaow so weighty
>>743245456>Oblivion>by far the best questsWhere? You ask someone about Oblivion quests, they always say Whodunit or A Brush With Death. Maybe Paranoia. They never mention 80% of daedric quests which are "go into generic cave and kill bandits", like Azura's or Vile's or Meridia's or Namira's; or 90% of other quests which are that mutliplied. Oblivion doesn't have a Blackreach. It doesn't have a Frostflow Lighthouse. It doesn't have an In My Time of Need, discussed to this very day. It doesn't have a Rise in the East with Japhet's Folly. It doesn't let you find daedric quests organically, like helping a priest with a town having nightmares which leads you into creating a dream potion which takes you to the past, or partaking in a drinking contest which has you retracing your comical steps across Skyrim, or entering Azura's Star in a unique environment where you get to see a soul gem from inside, or what seemed like a random dungeon rewarding you with a talkative beacon, or the uncovering of a secret cannibal cult involving named NPCs in one of the province's major Holds. Oblivion doesn't have a Rebel's Cairn or Lost to the Ages, quests obtained from reading books in the world. It doesn't have a Book of Love, where you're an agent of Mara helping people romantically, or Blood on the Ice where you track down a serial killer. It doesn't have a Forsworn Conspiracy+No One Escapes Cidhna Mine combo, nor does it have you paying an archeologist to dig an ancient crypt for you which slowly turns him mad, or tracing a pirate's old treasure which rewards you with his unique gear, or on the other hand purposefully turning a lighthouse off so you can pillage a boat then track those that betrayed you down to their unique, ship themed giant water cave.No matter how much you may fellate the exceptions to the rule, like Where Spirits Have Lease, Oblivion utterly PALES in comparison to the effort put into Skyrim's quests and dungeons being straight upgrades to what came before.
>>743245773Still waiting for your examples, friend :)
>>743245932Its about the FEEL of the swings and hits. Not how many hits it takes. Its not my fault you like to play on novice difficulty. Do you also set the slider in Oblivion all the way to the left?
>>743245940pick one. They’re all better than jeetrim’s dungeons>>743246024I’m not the one who gets filtered by the level scaling. skyrims combat is made for retards
>>743246173>defending the level scalingdo oblivitards really?
>>743239702Mid game sigil stones provide a huge amount of chameleon, so it was extremely easy to break the game by visiting 5 gates, savescumming and getting 100% chameleon.
>xe/xer got filteredlmao
>>743245938>90% of other quests which are that mutliplied.I feel like we're in opposite world. That is skyrim. That is getting sent to draugur tombs for every random side quest.
>>743220836Oblivion is the best Elder Scrolls game.
ITT: nostalgia blind obliviniggers getting bodied left and right
>>743246024Oblivion and skyrims combat feels the same to me. You're just left clicking until your target dies
>>743247050>You're just left clicking until your target diesPC gaming in a nutshell. Any other genius insights?
>>743247025this
>>743246950No, that is every random dungeon being a copypasted cave or Imperial Fort. For the nth time, people can type "draugr dungeons are copypasted" all they want, they literally cannot post photographic proof because every single Skyrim dungeon is, in fact, wholly unique.
>>743247025Nope Daggerfall zoomie
>>743220836>Make an entire channel straight after release dedicated to adding new mechanics and fixes based on feedback>Literally nothing comes of it
>>743247457>Khajiit feeling the shakes after going cold turkey from Skooma circa 3E 433, animated
>>743247407unique =/= good
>>743247603goalposts = movedcoping = begun
>>743247603unique ≠bad, but it sure = more interesting by virtue of not visiting the same cave a hundred times
>>743247407I wasnt even mentioning dungeons being copypasted or not, i'm referring to the fact that so many random quests in skyrim send you to draugur tombs.I can fully understand why people might prefer skyrim, but I cannot understand how anyone can claim skyrim has better quests than oblivion.Skyrim has a small handful of memorable quests. I can remember almost every quest for oblivion. Your daedric examples are cherry picked and even of the ones you selected, the only ones that are really generic are meridia and azura. They're straightforward kill all enemies in dungeon quest.Clav is interesting because of the backstory of umbra, the fact that shes one of the strongest npcs in the game, and the fact that you get to decide whether or not to keep the sword or turn it in for the axe.Namira is about going into a small tomb and slaughtering innocent monks who dont even fight back. And the flavor of needing to make your character repugnant to even be able to talk to the statue
>>743247838>more interestingtheme park dungeons for retarded glue eaters>wtf why do these caves look like caves>>743247814>coping = begunNo need to announce your autistic tardrages
>>743248538>theme park dungeonsThat's a neat word, did your favorite e-celeb teach it to you?
>jungle cyrodiil>rice farm economy>imperial forts>imperial legions>joinable imperial legion>templars>red templars>talos blood wine>imperial battlemages>imperial battlemage towers>dragons>imperial dragons>unique nibenean/colovian lore>white-gold tower's top and most of interior>imperial council>imperial politics>imperial palace>imperial princes>weird imperial cults>garish costumes and bizarre tapestries>tattoos and brandings>beards>elaborate festivals and festivities>counties having an actual lore-based architectural styles>arena/gladiator culture>arenas in every town>the pitsRemember what they took from you
>>743248538>oblivitard reduced to coping and seethingconcession accepted
>>743248714A bunch of stuff that sounds like a twelve year old came up with it?
>>743248714I say that and look like that
>>743248308>i'm referring to the fact that so many quests in skyrim send you to draugur tombsThis is good. TES have been dungeon crawlers since their inception. Skyrim is the land of the draugr. For draugr tombs to be the most common dungeon while still keeping the variation the game did, is both to be expected and nothing short of amazing.>I cannot understand how anyone can claim skyrim has better quests than oblivionWell I'd argue I wrote a fairly convincing argument. There's a reason people always fall back on Whodunit and Paranoia.
>>743248585>zoomer mutt so assblasted he started screaming muh e-celeb (the only thing he gets his opinions from)can’t make this shit up lmao
>>743248308I'm playing through TES for the first timeI expect I'll probably finish Morrowind todayShould I play Oblivion or is it basically just a shitty halfway point between Morrowind and Skyrim that has all the worst parts of both?
>>743248714I will never forget.
>>743248790>A bunch of stuff that sounds like a twelve year old came up with it?Yes, that's how the retail game feels like unfortunaly. A shame.
>>743248882It’s got all the best parts of both. Skyrim is zoomer’s first TES
>>743248882>Should I play Oblivion or is it basically just a shitty halfway point between Morrowind and Skyrim that has all the worst parts of bothYes I'd recommend you play Oblivion if only to know the state of the world for Skyrim, just rush its faction quests + main quest then do the actual Morrowind-style world exploring and optional dungeon delving with Skyrim
>>743248882Its good. You should play it. It just doesn't reach the same highs as Morrowind or Skyrim
>>743227021Skyrim fags trying to latch themselves to morrowind is some of the most delusional shit I've ever seen
>>743248882Oblivion is the worst one but you should still play all 3 and then at least try out Daggerfall.
>>743220836was the Oblivion remastered even good?was it unnecessary?does it completely bork all the mods for the original Oblivion?
>>743249207>Volendrung starts out as a Dwarven hammer and the more into the timeline you get, the more corrupted by Malacath it looks>ESO as always misses the forest for the trees and just copypastes Skyim's designYou don't hate that MMO nearly as much as it deserves.
>>743248820>There's a reason people always fall back on Whodunit and Paranoia.I can name good quests in every city>anvilwhere spirits have lease, the sirens deception>skingradRosethorn cache>leyawiintears of the savior, whom gods annoy>bravilforlorn watchman, through a nightmare darkly>imperial cityunexpected voyage, imperial corruption>chorrolcanvas the castle, seperated at birth>brumaTwo sides of the coin>Cheydinhalcorruption and conscienceThats not mentioning guild quests which are of much higher quality, nor any of the quests you already mentioned.More or less the only interesting quests in skyrim are daedric, and a few memorable ones like blood on the ice
>>743249021I haven't really felt any "highs" with MorrowindIt's more of an interesting curiosity of a game. I doubt I'll play it again after this, but it has certainly been a vibe. I like it for the same reason I like games like STALKER.>>743249207I already did try Daggerfall, before starting Morrowind even. I gave it a couple hours, but the super slow movement speed and lack of mouselook were just impossible to bear for any longer than that. It was a shame, the story seemed cool
>>743231439I look like this and behave like this
>>743249149Fuck off you shiteating nigger. Oblivion is the antithesis to everything that's awesome about Morrowind.>absolutely zero worldbuilding>almost everything cool about Cyrodiil in the lore entirely ignored>shitty high fantasy lotr aesthetic instead of something unique and outlandishSkyrim isn't good itself, but at least it leaned into the lore a bit and had a more grungy aesthetic. Oblivion is offensively bad in every aspect.
>>743249406>lack of mouselook...you didn't play the original, did you?
I mean to be honest this is such a trash remaster that you are actually just better off playing the original. The remaster has all of the same bugs. Literally all of them. Like, why would you call it a remaster if you didn't fix any bugs? It's just a texture pack that runs very poorly.Play the original. Come home, white man.
>>743249332My headcanon is that it cycles between a dwarven hammer and a corrupted daedric mall ninja hammer. Or maybe that it got uncorrupted at some point by someone who turned it back to the orignal form (because it wouldn't make sense for it to only start getting corrupted so late after it had been made).
>>743249619There's only one Daggerfall anon. Unity is not Daggerfall.
>>743249149Its simple. If you are a fan of the wider Elder Scrolls setting you would prefer Skyrim and Morrowind over Oblivion
>>743249845I'm so sorry for you, fren.
>>743249619>>743249406DOS had mouselook, you just needed to turn it on in the options.Also fuck Daggerfall: SHITnity btw. Chads play the OG first time and only then go to Unity for modding.
>>743249603zoomie having a melty kek
>>743221405Mods. Mods make Skyrim good.Mods only fix Oblivion.
Oh look /v/ is talking about Skyrim again.You guys can consult this or a thousand other threads if you ever want to ask why people hate Elden Ring.You take a game with depth and grit and personality and you turn it into happy funtime fantasy adventure where you zip around on a magic horse and also fast travel whenever you want. It's like a ride at Disneyland with fantasy elements painted on.It's not even *bad*, it's just lame and it misses a few crucial elements and the normies and gaming journalists that get flown out to PAX to play it for a week say "9.5/10 - Incredible"I'm sorry for crashing your thread with an entirely different game. But it's a big deal and we have 10 threads about it a day. This game is more like Skyrim than anything and that's the answer.
>>743250204shut the fuck up retard
>>743250204keep talking genius
>>743250023Concession accepted.
>>743250405>its not le heckin’ zany and outlandishand that’s a good thing
>>743249882I'm sorry zoomer normalfag but no one believes that you have the attention span and reading comprehension to enjoy morrowind. Back to fortine Minecraft and tik toks for you
>>743249403>where spirits have leaseOne of the two thousand Oblivion quests that acts like fast travel exists in-universe because the game makes no biggie out of you buying the house, the owner going to the Imperial City, you following him there, then him going back to fucking Anvil on foot all in the span of a day, because Oblivion is the one game to lack diegetic fast travel like silt striders or carriages unless you shelled out 2 real life bucks back in the day.>the sirens deceptionBugged facsimile of Anvil Recommendation, no unique or 'out there' locations, literally just a room.>Rosethorn cacheNot even a quest but a miscellaneous task. The entirety of Skingrard and that's what you have? Jesus.>tears of the saviorSee 'where spirits have lease' + Frostfire Cave being a generic dungeon.>forlorn watchmanSee 'Rosethorn cache'.>through a nightmare darkly1/13>unexpected voyage>>743248538>imperial corruption2/13>canvas the castleLaughable fucking "mystery" when Chanel spills her spaghetti the microsecond you talk to her.>seperated at birthNot even Legacy Lost, but the previous one where two siblings separated at birth just so happend to grow up to magically dress up in the exact same fucking clothes, have the same voice and be aware for months that there's someone that looks just like them in another city yet at no point think about their twin brother that supposedly died when they were young? lmfao>Two sides of the coin3/13>corruption and conscienceOthran is scripted to die no matter player freedom of choice even if he's an utter demigod.None of them with unique dungeons, or rewards, or scripted encounters beyond simple NPCs talking to each other. Wew lad, that shit's rough.
>>743220836Yes
>>743250204>This game is more like Skyrim than anythingIt wishes. Also https://youtu.be/ed6kKLd3Fso
>>743220836>This isn't like Skyrim at all, it's boring. Sometimes I kinda wish I could be retarded, because you guys have a lot of fun.
>>743220836>the remaster made people realize Oblivion was shit all alongkek it was funny seeing people go from excited at playing Oblivion for the first time or replaying it since they were kids to "oh wait this sucks" and going back to modded Skyrim and Tamriel Rebuilt.
>>743250782I’m trans btw
>>743251096Mods are really the only reason anybody cares about TES in modern times. There is just a loud minority if shit eating vanilla fags who are scared of mods. I'm assuming console players or tech illiterate zoomers.
>>743251128Hope you don't kill yourself, but I don't know why you had to reply directly to my post.
Cyrodiil is the worst province, and Imperials are the worst race.
>>743250782The lack of in-universe hurts Oblivion so hard. There's no way to truly roleplay a survival-ish playthrough because any one faction expects you to teleport across Cyrodiil from quest to quest in a way you realize had no developer thinking about what the people in Tamriel would have to actually go through. No carriages, no guild services to take you to other cities, no Mark, no Recall, no scrolls of Divine Intervention. The Imperial Province was defanged.
>>743251827Makes sense, they didn't even exist originally. Even Arena had Orcs if only as enemies. Even then, in Morrowind and Skyrim they have the whole Roman shtick going for them, that makes them stand out. I love my niggas Caius Cosades and Tullius, for example. But for some reason Oblivion, the one game set in the Imperial mainland, decided to instead forget about the whole Roman stuff and try to make them pass as Breton wannabes.
>>743251638Why are you talking to yourself
>>743250746copeI'm a trve Ashlander and a trve Nord unlike you
>>743220836It's the most boring TES game other than Arena. All Elder Scrolls games are mediocre though
Oblivion's Ayleid ruins WISH they were as kino as the Dwarves ones in Skyrim.
>>743250782bodied that Oblivitard
>>743252181btw I’m trans
oh wow he is SEETHING lmao
>the schizophrenic tranny is talking to himself again
>>743251868>The lack of in-universeIn-universe fast travel*
>>743220836>RemasteredThe original is better, not that it's good but still better than remastered
Remaster or original? Remaster is really pretty but it rapes my memory dunno why no other game does this. Should I just play original? What mods are good. I don't really wanna fix any bugs cause I find the weird oblivion specific interactions funny.
>>743250782>One of the two thousand Oblivion quests that acts like fast travel exists in-universe because the game makes no biggie out of you buying the house, the owner going to the Imperial City, you following him there, then him going back to fucking Anvil on foot all in the span of a day, because Oblivion is the one game to lack diegetic fast travel like silt striders or carriages unless you shelled out 2 real life bucks back in the day.Not an argument>Bugged facsimile of Anvil Recommendation, no unique or 'out there' locations, literally just a room.why does every quest need a new environment? The whole point of the quest is that you're being recruited for a sting operation against seductive female thieves. It would make no sense for them to be posted in a dungeon.>Not even a quest but a miscellaneous task. The entirety of Skingrard and that's what you have? Jesus.I picked general city quests you havent mentioned and paranoia is the best skingrad has to offer. admittedly skingrads other most interesting quests are locked behind guilds.>See 'where spirits have lease' + Frostfire Cave being a generic dungeon.Hating >See 'Rosethorn cache'.blatantly incorrect. The forlorn watchman is a journal quest.>unexpected voyagenow you're not a fan of unique environments and organic discovery of a quest?>canvas the castleI think you're forgetting the fact that you have to explore the castle and speak with witnesses to find evidence before you confront her.>Not even Legacy LostI said seperated at birth because it leads into legacy lost and sins of the father. Still if you want a different chorrol quest what about shadow over hackdirt?>Othran is scripted to die no matter player freedom of choice even if he's an utter demigod.are we going to act like skyrim doesnt have scripted deaths? How am I supposed to save kodlak from his death?And your final statement is again incorrect.
>>743252904The answer when it comes to 95% of remakes and remasters is always to play the original.
>>743250782>>743253000I got interrupted on frostfire glade but "why are you suddenly hating unique environments? frostfire glade with the frozen knight is really cool.Though at this point I don't think theres any value in continuing this argument because you're not going to convince me and I'm not going to convince you, so we gain nothing here and I have more important things to do.
>>743253000>Not an argumentIt quite literally is, because an RPG without immersion or RP is no RPG at all. How the player must interact with the world and the NPCs as part of the quest is... well, part of the quest. It needs to be taken into account.>why does every quest need a new environment?Because when 90% of your quests don't have anything of the sort and are samey, you end up with Oblivion.>I picked general city questsAnd you picked a miscellaneous note.>paranoiaBecause I mentioned it myself preemptively? kek>HatingWhat is it you said? "Not an argument"?>blatantly incorrectInconspicuously correct. For some reason you seem to believe my statement over these quests being miscellaneous-tier begin and end with the quest journal, and not with their content as well. This quest is a ghost that walks for a bit and points at an empty boat with a couple treasure chests. It's not even a quest but a miscellaneous task.>now you're not a fan of unique environments and organic discoveryI very much am, when they're part of the natural game you can expect at any time and not the exception to the rule because the other 90% of the game is empty and unoriginal.>I think you're forgetting thatI forgot nothing. It's a mystery without anything mysterious because you clock the culprit even faster than in Death of a Taxman.>I said seperated at birthSo no Legacy Lost.>How am I supposed to save kodlak...Kodlak, the man that doesn't die in front of you, because you're kilometers away, killing witches in a cave? That KodlakI get it, you're stuck with a losing battle because you're trying to argue Oblivion has better side quests than Skyrim. But come on anon, the entire thread is seeing this.
>>743253585>be level 1>kill a dragonvery immersive
>>743253751post a video of you doing this
>>743227021i prefer oblivion's quests, ablities and the broken as hell magic system but skyrim's world is superiorthere's nothing quite like maxxing out and then fortifying stats to absurdityin oblivion i can larp as sheev with 100 speed and acrobatics, blasting lightning at niggas and bunnyhopping through the planes of oblivion without consequence as the daedra literally cannot catch me. you can skip across fucking lavaits absurd sure but it speaks to how you can really make any sort of character 'JUST WORKS' to overcome obstacles
>>743253836
>>743248714>>743248950>>743248791>>743248923morrowtroons being perma-mindbroken about this is genuinely hilarious, pic is how they all sound to me when they start grudging and raging
>>743220836It genuinely is. I was so hyped for this piece of shit when it shadow dropped but quickly found out it's just slop. Should have remade Skyrim instead.
>>743253751>be level 1>kill Mankar Camoranvery immersive
>>743253585>you're trying to argue Oblivion has better side quests than Skyrim.because it doesEven people that prefer skyrim usually concede on that point.
>>743248923Kek
I bought it on release and it was the first game in a long time I enjoyed so much I lost sense of time doing meaningless exploring and side quests.But I was a big fan of the old Oblivion, so it was a given I'd like this game
>>743221405it's the literal opposite>the leveling systemoblivion has the worst leveling system across all genres
>>743220836We tried to warn you.
>>743254443Yeah, no.
>>743254328>the hero of kvatch and a member of the blades kill mankar camoranVery immersive indeed
>>743254443I don't actually
Reminder that the dungeon designer for Oblivion was hired just before the game went gold and he had to do two dungeons per day to meet the deadline. That's why all non main story related dungeons look the same.
>>743255521>the Dragonborn kills a dragonVery immersive indeed
>>743255641kino
>>743220836Oblivion is just slightly more boring than Skyrim.
>>743255673>can kill a dragon but gets arrested by more level 1s in leather dressesKEK
>>743255521>>743255673>daggerfall fells a dagger>nerevarine nears rhine>hero of kvatch kills kvatch>dragonborn births a dragonbravo todd
>>743256143Powerful
>>743245272>perksIn Oblivion you unlock shield bash for 75, in Skyrim that is a base skill and you unlock decapitation power moves. It's not even comparable.>enchantingAgain, Oblivion enchanting is anemic compared to Skyrim. Especially the whole fortify smithing/alchemy/enchanting loop is an insane progression path that Oblivion doesn't have.>spellcrafting is more interestingWizard detected. I have yet to find a melee/archer player who thinks Oblivion is better than Skyrim.
>>743256124>can kill fully geared up Mythic Dawn assassins who are trained to kill Blades an the Emperor himself while wearing prisoner clothes>doesn't even have the excuse of having the soul of a dragon and thus being magically inclined to be *able* to kill dragonsOH NO NO NO NO NO
>>743256451>can kill fully geared up Mythic Dawn assassins who are trained to kill Blades an the Emperor himself while wearing prisoner clothesway to make it obvious you haven’t played the very first level lmao
>>743220836the worst thing is that happened to bethesda was the normies discovering skyrim.
>>743256786You believe the Lv.1 fists of a prisoner that's been in a sewer prison for a while should be able to kill trained assassins working for a daedric cult and trained in bound armor? In your mind is that not being fully geared up?
>>743257083The blades kill all of the assassins dumbass, you don’t even have to fight them. and you find weapons and armor in the middle part of the sewer
>>743257783>you don’t even have toBut you absolutely can, you colossal retard, and most players will jump into the fray because they just started playing the game>you find weapons and armorAfter the first encounter with the Mythic Dawn, you moron. You don't seem to even know about your own game.
>>743258021>But you absolutely canand you won’t kill them stupid fuck. The blades one shot them while you wail on the assassins like a feral nigger
>>743245938>Blood on the Ice where you track down a serial killer. It doesn't have a Forsworn Conspiracy+No One Escapes Cidhna Mine comboKind of going against your argument by using some of the most shittily written and most bugged quests in the game innit.Like less than 10% of the playerbase actually found the real culprit in Blood on the Ice because the quest tends to just bug out.
>>743258151>and you won’t kill themThey have 15 Health you subhuman inbred, especifically unlike the normal post-tutorial variants whose health depends on other factors (43 + (3+1.8)x(PC-1), PC=5-28). You can kill them with a couple punches, you poser fuck.
>>743258021>stand back prisoner, we won’t hesitate to kill you if you get in our way>runs in like an adhd spasticESL moment>>743258387>couple punchesThe brownoid can’t count either LMAO
>>743257083i was using fireballs my niggafire out the right hand, my penis in the left
>>743220836>uhhh... this is not like skyrim at all.good.
Get Nehrim instead.
>>743258558>runs out of non-arguments because he's been BTFO with actual statistics >retreats to simple NPC insultsKek you Obliviontards are so fucking pathetic.
>>743258686I accept your concession :)
>>743249406Man even the original version of daggerfall has mouselook, how are you even trying to invest in these games if you won't open an options menu
>>743258558>we won’t hesitate to kill you if you get in our way >get in their way >they do absolutely nothing >be alone with the Emperor when he's killed >tell them "yeah no the Emperor totally told me to take with me his super special amulet :) ">they believe it and let me escape with it
>>743248714>that imagekek
>>743258686>doesn’t deny being brown and ESL LOL
>>743258764>>743236290
>>743258840>>743258764
>>743258685Nehrim makes you realize that Oblivion could have been so much better if the dungeons and overworld had any amount of effort put into them.
>>743258823Whiter than you, Mohammad.
>>743258886>>743236290
>>743221405TES levelling system was always shit, from arena to skyrim, it's garbage. Skyrim is more "accessible" that's really why it's the more popular one. There's no need to be autistic and keep track of levelling the right skills to ensure a 5/5/5 on level up - though the remaster fucked that shit up with a plain 12 freely distributable points, which is arguably even more lame.
>>743221759The only elder scrolls game I ever touched was morrowind because it came free with my pc, and out of all the elder scrolls games you skyrim beaners are the worst of em all
As someone who started out the series with skyrimMorrowind = skyrim > oblivionThis is based on the fact on how many mods you need to enjoy the game.I play all three games on highest difficulty, which I know is bullshit. But Morowind and Skyrim still gives you a decent amount of versatile chances to beat the game, where as in Oblivion the levelling experience is legit dogshit.I genuinely tried to enjoy Oblivion, I even gathered up a small army of followers, and even when I hit level 20, my entire party got its ass kicked because of a regenerating dread zombie that was healing 50 health every second.Oblivion is straight up terrible. I enjoyed both skyrim and morrowind in its unmodded state. Morrowind was kind of annoying with the assassins from tribunal though.
>>743258387Just tested it. It takes 8-10 punches to kill them and you won’t be able to do it before the blades finish them off. You’re fucking retarded, maybe try moving the difficulty slider away from the left
>>743259484>Just tested it
>>743259654>>743258764:)
>>743258772If it was Morrowind, the Emperor would have an emergency Recall spot to teleport to kek Oblivion's intro is so fucking stupid if you take it as the fourth entry of a lore-heavy franchise.
>>743259720>>743236290
>>743258935Prove it.
Why did Bethesda move away from the hand-placed unique artifacts and loot in hidden places that made Morrowind so good?
>>743240445>always dies at 100 postsskyrim beaner got raped and gaped
>>743260074Your turn, Tyrone.>>743260484He was right. Oblivion threads die at 100 posts. Oblivion fags seethed so hard this turned into a Skyrim thread with 70% of discussion being from it.
I love how trannywind fans get bodied in every thread
>>743220836how is the original oblivion? my humble rx580 cant handle UE5slop and i kinda want to play something like skyrim but theres nothing like it
>>743260708It kind of sucks major ass without a significant amount of mods to fix things like the ass level scaling, the ass dungeon design, the ass random loot, the ass overworld, etc.
>>743260559dios mio… la luz extiguidado
>>743260778You've never seen such whiteness before, Abdul?
>>743221405>>743221691Virtually any defense of Oblivion can also be applied to Starfield.
>game genre that lives and dies around the strength of its levels and how interesting the world is to explore>make the most boring world possible to explore
>>743260902Starfield has 10/10 quests and soundtrack?
Morrowtrannies have no taste. Disgusting creatures
>>743261162>be THE one province that connects to Skyrim, Hammerfell, Valenwood, Elsweyr, Morrowind and Black Marsh>nothing comes of it visually, artistically or culturally outside of platitudes like "Cheydinhal is built in the Morrowind style (looks absolutely nothing like any buildin from Vvanderfell or Mournhold)">you even get rid of your own personal Roman aesthetic for no reason other than Lord of the Rings having released a couple years agoBravo Nolan.
>>743261451Playing Project Cyrodiil and realizing that all the aesthetic things in Oblivion (Anvil, Ayelid ruins, etc), could actually be pretty good with a bit of effort is just embarrassing, honestly.
>>743220968But sawing logs is indispensable for the advanced economy where different cities can trade with each other, for example one city can have more tree while another city can have more stone so they trade with each other.Or at least that's what Todd said 16 or so years ago...I hope they put it in the game.
I found oblivion more immersive because you have to explore more yourself rather than being le dragonborn center of the universe with super powers
>>743261824>I found oblivion more immersive because you have to explore more yourselfYou have fast travel to every city unlocked from the microsecond you leave the sewers.
>>743261870And there are no points of interest in the overworld that aren't just marked dungeons or shrines, so there's no point in exploring. Skyrim at least has unmarked locations and things to stumble upon.
>>743247407>>743246950>>743245773>>743245610>>743241495>>743243143I genuinely think the reason Oblivitards hate Skyrim is because they just hate the cold nordic aesthetic. They say obviously wrong shit like "Skyrim dungeons are all copy-pasted dwemer ruins!" which is an odd thing to say considering Skyrim's dungeons objectively have more level design and variation than Oblivion's which literally are copy-pasted. This is clearly psychological. They don't like the harsh, rustic aesthetic Skyrim is going for so everything feels like a chore to them even when the level design is objectively more creative and interesting than Oblivion.
>>743262894themepark dungeons
>>743262936Oblivion's dungeons are themepark dungeons too, the only difference is that they're got no actual theme.
>>743263302>no theme>but there's a themeyep, you're brown and esl
>>743262894They hate Skyrim because they know that Oblivion is the awkward, ugly middle child that does nothing better than what came before it or after it.But they grew up with it so they feel compelled to vehemently defend it to death with completely obtuse and false statements
>>743263436I get that we're all retarded here but the point I'm making is the central issue with Skyrim's dungeons are present in Oblivion's dungeons, but unlike Skyrim Oblivion dungeons were all made from copy-pasted templates, so you don't get, at the bare minimum, the positives that Skyrim's dungeons have where many at least try to have something interesting going on. There's no Nchuand-Zel, no Kagrenzel, no Shalidor's Labyrinth, no Sightless Pit. Just template after template after template.Yes, this was because Oblivion's dungeons were made by all of one guy compared to the six or seven Skyrim had, but still.
>>743262936Beats procedurally generated slop by 10~ tiles designed by one overworked guy.
>>743220836Those games are fun but they're no Daggerfall
>>743263890Why didn't Morrowind have this problem?
>>743263890procedurally crafted dungeons > handslopped dungeons
>>743264175Because unlike Oblivion, it had SOVL beyond just the soundtrack.
>>743264175It does it's just not as obvious because it stuck a bunch of valuable loot everywhere to trick you.I guarantee if Oblivion's loot was leveled cockshit and had a bunch of random valuable loot in out of the way places people would like it way better.
>>743264175Because 90% of Morrowind dungeons are a corridor and three square rooms without much effort put into their layout. It's still preferable because it doesn't waste your time and it's always worth exploring because loot is handpicked so the one time you enter a dungeon with great shit it feels like hitting a jack-pot.People cherrypick a lot the three or so dungeons that are actually sprawling complexes.
>>743221405Skyrim's geometry, environmental variety, verticality and unique asset use is pretty much universally superior to Oblivion's. Look at the fallen tree bridge suspended beside a mountainous waterfall near Lost Knife Cave, or the open pit trap near Halted Stream Camp. Oblivion has none of this without mods like Unique Landscapes; the developers openly admitted to cutting corners by procedurally generating the landscape and recycling cave layouts.
>>743220836I liked the music. That's about it.
>>743264643>Look at the fallen tree bridge suspended beside a mountainous waterfall near Lost Knife CaveS O U L
>>743264875And something that basic is something that Oblivion doesn't have at all. They procgenned the landscape and cleaned it up, then they painted the trees and rocks using a tool.
>>743264929There's barely any biomes in vanilla Oblivion at all, Bruma is just the same terrain painted white and the "marsh" around Leyawiin is just pathetic.
>>743220836>Censoring gender with body typeWhy? And who's responsible for the censorship?
What og oblivion mods to I get
>>743265529Nehrim
>>7432655294gb Ram PatcherAscension - Better Clutter IconsAscension - Immersive Vanilla 'Overhaul'Attribute Progression RedesignBalanced Creature Stats - Fixed Level ScalingBalanced NPC Level Cap - Logical Levels for All NPCsBalanced Unleveled RewardsBlockheadEngineBugFixesEnhanced Water v20 HDMIHooded OutlawsKeychainLandscape LOD Textures by XerusLights of Oblivion - Road LanternsMannimarco RevisitedMaskar's Oblivion OverhaulMenuQue - OBSE PluginMercantile Experience Fix - SimplifiedNo more crosshair on Rythe's paintingNVAC - New Vegas Anti Crash (yes it works for Oblivion because they're both Gamebryo)OBL Mod Limit FixOblivion Display TweaksOblivion High Quality MusicOblivion Reloaded E3 (UNOFFICIAL)Oblivion Script Extender (OBSE xOBSE)Oblivion Stutter RemoverQuest NPCs RunReal Retroactive Health FormulaReally Better Tiling GrassSM DLC Plugin RefurbishSM DLC Plugin Refurbish - Voiced Addon BSASimple Better Inventory And MapSkyBSATeleportation Services - Simple Fast Travel AlternativesUnique Landscapes CompilationUnofficial Oblivion DLC Patches - UODPUnofficial Oblivion Patch - UOPUnofficial Shivering Isles Patch - USIPxOBSEYeest's Pit Armor
>it's 3am in both the game world and the real world>you just finished stealth archering one last Dwarven Ruin>you come outside and the aurora is glowing and Secunda starts playing>time to camp for the night, or find an inn if you're luckyVGH
>>743266317>t.
>>743265920>>743265705Thank you anons
Level design is overrated by /v/tards. Applies to Elder Scrolls, Dark Souls, and many other series with controversial sequels.I don't give a fuck if you think Oblivion and Morrowind have better quests and dungeons, Skyrim has more features and better polished mechanics and that already makes it superior to your unplayable oldfag games. It also helps that it doesn't look like complete shit.
>>743269753>it doesn't look like complete shit.but it do
>>743220836>make the mistake of shooting a fireball at the same time a room is loading in>entire system fucking crashes>never play since
>>743269832Compared to Morrowind and Oblivion it's gorgeous and it's the only one that holds up in 2026.
>>743269753Nobody thinks Oblivion has better dungeons except actual retards.
>>743270001I do, because it does.
>>743265529>maskar'sYeah I enjoy retarded new enemies with dogshit models that dont fit the lore at all (amazonian warriors) kek
>>743270045Case in point.
>>743270075>All features are configurable through OMOD installation and/or editing the ini filePsst, hey, that means you can fully deactivate whatever new enemies or NPCs you don't like mimics or whatever and keep the rest.
Super curious why Skyrim fans can't get into Oblivion. I understand Morrowind, but Oblivion is the exact same game.
>>743260186The problem with developers taking that approach to an open world game with almost complete freedom of movement and the opportunity to steal is that players can use knowledge acquired in their first playthrough to "cheat" in subsequent playthroughs. You know you can find an excellent sword atop a closet in a guardhouse in Balmora, so you quickly go to fetch that and all the other epic freebies on your list.
>>743269753Skyrim is janky-ass oldfag shit by now, thoughbeitever
>>743270285I swear this is the defense every mouthbreather gives and then in practice it never ends up being an actual issue. Mostly because most players only play through something once.Robbing people of the joy of initial discovery because of some vague idea that it'll destroy replayability is dumb. It's not like any Dark Souls game is doing that shit, and rightfully so.
>>743269936Oblivion remastered looks better
>>743270745>Mostly because most players only play through something onceSkyrim has been played for 15 years.
>>743270745It's the knee-jerk reaction that retards give, and then you actually play something with hand-placed loot and realize how much more enjoyable the experience always is.
>>743269753cope
>>743221405>>743220836how do you get into TES games? do you have to fuck with mods or will you have fun just fucking around and exploring?
Skyblivion gonna MOG all
>>743270795>>743271118Why did Oblivion need a remake?
>>743220836The Elder Slops was never good
>>743274585to distract from the perpetual lack of es6 after 15 years and counting
>>743270221no oblivion actual has really broken mechanics in vanilla that make it shitty and retarded to play
Just killed Dagoth UrIs there no credits scene in Morrowind? Just the last cutscene with Azura and that's it? It felt anticlimacticI guess the game was really counting on me not just levitating my way through the final battle (and most of Red Mountain besides)
>>743279964>98iq and 0 soul detected
>>743279964True it did feel pretty underwhelming. I was really invested in the story up to that point
>>743221405>There is so little to do or explore compared to Oblivion
>>743269936Idk morrowind goes pretty crazy if you have the patience. Combat is inexcusable however
>>743282581I want you dead tk47
