falloutbros we're so back! Peak is back on the menu!
I wish mods wouldn't allow channel shilling here.
Obsidian should not be allowed anywhere near Fallout after the shitshow that was Outer Worlds 1, 2 and Avowed.Also, shill your fucking channel elsewhere.
The show already destroyed the entire setting who can possibly care at this point
>>743222856who cares. I mean, it's not like it's the same Obsidian that made New Vegas.
>>743222856
>>743225958This is true but on the other hand how much worse can they be than the Bethesda that made Starfield?
>>743222856At this point anything is better than Bethesda
>>743222856Looks like KINO is back on the menu boys!!!
ban e-celeb threads
Who is this guy to get views like that? His vids don't look particularly impressive
>Fallout new vegas 2>brought to you by makers of The outer worlds 2
>Fallout 5>brought to you by the makers of Fallout 4 and Starfield
>>743222856>shilling your own channel for extra clicksGo back to selling mugs you cheapskate
>>743226397>Fallout 5>brought to you by the makers of Fallout 1, Fallout 2 and Fallout New Vegas
>>743226080Shit vs shit, what difference would it make? It's still shit.
>>743226546>he thinks the fags in modern obsidian are the makers of even new vegas. We've seen what they do with their hands on something in the vein of elder scrolls, pic related. We've seen what they do in terms of a shooter like fallout in terms of outer worlds. Hot garbage is coming this way.
>>743222856Is Cain gonna direct the next one?
>>743223012Last thread got deleted, probably for advertising the video channel.
>>743222856Why would I want obsidian to make a new fallout game when they made avowed they can't make good games anymore all the real talent left and now it's just gay interns.
>>743226351they are putting Josh in charge of this thing, he may be a filthy liberal, but he did direct New Vegas and all its DLCs. So I feel like this has better shot at being something rather than Bethesda
>>743222856You can tell a lot of people here are retarded because there is no loss scenario here. Either Obisidan makes a good fallout and Bethesda gets shit on or they make a shit fallout and everybody in their gets their ass fired by the jeeta. All while Todd is forced to sit on a cuckchair and watch
>>743227579literally this
>>743227579btw, jeeta already fired all the worthless fags from obsidian. Basically she told them all their current ips like Avowed are worthless, and their two secret new ip games didn't impress her. So she fired bunch of them, gave them fallout ip, and told them to make a new game and put Josh in charge. Since he did make New Vegas after all
I didn’t realize people hate Obsidian now. I thought Pentiment was cool.They should’ve done this years ago. Hire decent writers and recycle the assets of 4 and 76. They probably could’ve gotten a game out in under a year.
>>743227812The Outer Worlds did not do Obsidian any favors
>>743227812its just contrarians being contrarian
It's a good thing. Bethesda is too fucking slow and their last two games were dogshit
>>743227868No, it's people remembering Outer Worlds being a 7 hour hallway with reddit dialogue and Avowed looking like a Game Pass obligation. "Obsidian" isn't a magic word anymore, the New Vegas guys are either gone or old and tired.
>>743227779Even if the Obsidian Fallout turns out to be bad, I can’t see it being a worse fallout game than 4 or 76
>>743222856Nubsidian is worse than Bethesda retard
>>743227891You are more or less right. It's not even that people like Obsidian (much less in in it's current form) and what is said is bassicaly here say and dialouge from smoke signals. But it's just that people are really tired of Bethesta's shit. Them being slow, the paid mods, and releasing bad games.
>>743226351they are putting Josh in charge of this thing, he may be a filthy liberal, but he did direct Outer Worlds and Outer Worlds 2 and all of their DLCs. So I feel like this has better shot at having Small Ammo(pistols and rifles), Heavy Ammo (snipers and grenade launchers) and Energy Ammo (energy weapons) than Bethesda
Uncomfortable truth: Fallout is mid and always was.
>>743227931>the New Vegas guys are either gone or old and tired.they aren't though, Josh Sawyer is there and running the development. maybe John Gonzalez will jump ship because his project got cancelled, but ensuring that doesn't happen and securing Avellone is Feargus' problem.Tim Cain can be put to use writing quests etc despite being old and tired. Boyarski could be art director, the Outer Worlds 2 sucking is probably due to the fact he didn't have Tim Cain there to lean on but he was art Director for FO1 + 2 so would be the natural person to lead the art team to recapture that style.
>>743228068>>743227556Is this the latest shill throughline a la "a return to form for Bioware!" or did you just forget to delete your earlier post?
>>743222856>video title is now "Bethesda lost Fallout"Fucking A/B testing clickbaiters
>>743227556>all its DLCfucking retardit's like saying Avellone wrote New Vegas
>>743222856WHERE IS THE SOURCE?!?
>>743224506Simply say the TV show is noncanon.
>>743228625its just a stick figure animation channel covering the situation of Asha gutting all the studios, then moved Fallout to Obsidian and ordered them to cancel everything and make a Fallout game, because Bethesda hasn't done anything with Fallout for a decade and Xbox wants a return on investment on its IP.
>>743228998>moved Fallout to ObsidianThis is what I want the source on
>>743228547Well iirc most if not all of NV's DLC was planned in the original game. In fact there is references all over the place to the Divide, Big MT, Sierra Madre, and Zion park.
>>743222856This guy is a retard, his points are so reductive that he spends 15 minutes painting a narrative about the hubris that supposedly Todd has and then weirdly only spends a single min on the situation with ID software. Really, he couldn't figure out a single inventive reason why the latter happened?
>>743229105the source is that Obsidian is working on a Fallout game which isn't what Todd wants and Bethesda do not own the IP, Xbox does so what they say goes.
>>743229676>the source is that Obsidian is working on a Fallout gameAgain, can I get the source for that?
>>743230297been under a rock?https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2026/07/08/new-fallout-game-reportedly-coming-from-obsidian-avowed-2-cancelled/
I'm just glad Emil Linguine isn't going to be anywhere within 100 miles of the new game. I hate his writing so fucking much - he can only tell 1 story and not well.
>>743228091TruthFallout 1 and NV are good games stuck in a shitty setting
>>743230405>Jason Schreier not this ugly kike again
>>743230405Yes, I have, thank you.Curious if they're going to use Creation Engine 2 or UE5.
>>743222856Yes!! The dev stuidio that hasn't released a good game in 15 years is gonna make the worst fallout ever!!!!
>>743230726>the most mediocre falloutftfy
I mean anything is better than Bethesda but>nuObsidianIt will just be less shit, not good.
>>743222856Can't wait for them to slop out some absolute trash so everyone finally realizes that NV was a fluke
>>743228068Holy shit how can your weapon system be worse than Fallout 4
>>743222856Faggot for advertising his channel but he's right, Bethesda has squandered both the TES and Fallout IP to spend 11 years on a shitty space game instead of actually developing a game themselves or get others to make a game
>>743230726Bethesda doesn't have fallout anymore THOUGH
>>743230887>get others to make a gameWhy are people constantly obsessing over this? You'd think it's common thing that happens in the industry, but it isn't.
Just get whatever team handled gameplay elements for Fallout 4 to do it again for the next fallout and let Obsidian handle the RPG aspects while having some overhead to curb the random dykes and cuck plotlines and we might have something that's worth a tenner or so.
>>743230986Ok so you think literally sitting on two of the most valuable RPG IPs in the industry and doing nothing with them for over a decade is better than actually releasing games from either a fan or business perspective? Because they could have developed those games themselves instead of spending 8 years to make a shitty space game and spending another 3 years polishing a turd
>>743227995It's hard to imagine making a game worse than 4But again starfield is a thing
>>743222856While this is the best possible outcome for Fallout, I do not believe they will make another good Fallout game. It will be less shit than another Bethesda Fallout, but that's really not a high bar. And it will actually exist, unlike another Bethesda Fallout.But I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that it's going to be Avowed or Outer Worlds with a Fallout paint job. Sounds pretty fucking bad.
>>743231126I agree with you that they are retards for wasting time on spaceshit, but developers passing around their IP isn't a common thing. Yet people are upset because Bethesda doesn't just hand their IPs over to other studios? Also I wouldn't be surprised if Bethesda's dev cycle got irrevocably fucked up between 76 and Starfield, because I highly doubt Starfield was intended to come out 8yrs after F4.
>>743230986Elder Scrolls 6 will not release until 2030.which means Fallout 5 wouldn't be ready until 2035, do you think a 17 year gap between games is acceptable?.even if by some miracle Obsidian launches their Fallout 5 for Christmas 2029, is an 11 year gap acceptable?
>>743227779when you put it like this, she really is based for that
>>743231363>Yet people are upset because Bethesda doesn't just hand their IPs over to other studios?People are upset for 2 reasons>Bethesda hasn't released a new Fallout or Elder Scrolls title in years, over a decade if you don't count the MMO shit>The games they have released have been terribleAssigning the IP to someone else is good for everyone EXCEPT Bethesda. I get the impression that anybody upset about this genuinely believe that Bethesda is the only one who won't fuck up the IP, but they are too blind to see that Bethesda IS the one fucking up the IP.
>>743231417No, but again, lending out IPs isn't the norm, yet everyone acts as thought it is when it comes to bethesda.
>>743231653but it isn't Bethesda's IP anymore, its Xbox's
>>743231653Well, it's worth noting that Fallout is not an original Bethesda IP.
>>743230659It better be CE2 or it's dead on arrival.
>>743231849thisas a matter of fact, MOST fallout games were not developed by bethesda
>>743231905can mods ban this guy for being a retard
>>743231653Good for whom? People were saying the same shit about Blue Point making a Demon's Souls or Bloodborne sequel, and I disagreed with that too. Someone making a game in the setting, but in a different genre would be cool, but UE5 Fallout with no mod support? For who would that be good? The shareholders?>>743231726People were begging for an Obsidian Fallout pre-microsoft too.
Whats the cope when it comes out and its shit?
>>743231978>People were begging for an Obsidian Fallout pre-microsoft too.and Todd refused which is where the>Todd hates New Vegasshit came from
>>743231978Woops, first was meant for >>743231638
>>743232102>Todd refusedDid he? The only thing I remember of Todd refusing Obsidian was a TES game in similar vein to New Vegas. After New Vegas Obsidian was on a CRPG kick for a bit, so maybe them asking to do Fallout again escaped my memory.
i hope they wont make the show canon
>>743231978>Good for whom?Because what's the alternative? If they weren't forced to hand over the IP, the ABSOLUTE BEST case scenario is another Fallout 4 flavored turd released in 2035.
>>743231417Why not just make a smaller budget Fallout sequel that looks and plays like the original two games? Something like Wasteland 2 that could be developed quickly and cheaply to placate the market .A new Fallout game doesn't necessarily need to follow the Bethesda open world FPS formula
>>743232498UE5 dogwater like The Outer Worlds 1/2 and Avowed.
>>743232291Todd had Phil Spencer shit can a Fallout game made by Obsidian early this year, it was what Josh Sawyer was working on. Then it became a legally distinct from Fallout post apocalyptic game Obsidian was working on and was cancelled for an actual Fallout game by Asha Sharma.
>>743232568I think that is what Josh Sawyer was working on after Todd had a tantrum, another post apocalypse IP. I wouldn't be surprised if he pivoted to an isometric game to make it legally distinct after the success of Baldurs Gate 3.
>>743232585Can I get a source on that, because if Todd had enough leverage to get the game cancelled, how did it ever get greenlit? And I'm pretty sure it was Avowed 2 that got cancelled by Sharma
>>743232578Agreed. And I believe that's what's going to happen. But since it's going to be shit either way, at least it has a chance of coming out this decade now.
>>743232578Yeah I'm sure this is going to be more unreal slop, fallout is dead anyhow after 67 and the dogshit series
>>743228091It's a series with like 7 games and only 2 of them are very good. It just happens that those two are genuine all time great stuff
>>743232738Avellone and industry insiders.Avowed 2 was no secret.there was two projects Obsidian was working on that wasn't Avowed 2 and it was all cancelled to make Fallout because that's what the big boss wants.
>>743233027Well surely you can give the source of Avellone or the industry insiders' posts about the cancelled Fallout game?
>>743233158no I can't, I have other shit to do, maybe other people will spoon feed you.
>>743222856>studio that has never made a single good video game gets the IP from studio that has never made a single good video gameJust let the franchise die.
>>743231351>best possible outcome>it won't be goodNigger, the best outcome then is to not make another fallout game. Be content with the ones that have been made.
>>743233218Found it, and unsurprisingly, it was just Avellone talking out of his ass, not surprised.
>>743233428>best outcome then is to not make another fallout gameI said best POSSIBLE outcome. I chose my words very carefully.
>>743232736This makes the most sense. I highly doubt the new Obsidian Fallout will be first-person. Its down to the success of BG3 + Bethesda not wanting to be outshined again + how old the FO4/76 fork of the engine is. Doubly so if it's a rework of the legally distinct fallout game.
>>743233646I really want to believe like you do, but as it's been stated in this thread already, it's probably going to be Avowed with a Fallout skin.
>>743233770The only reason I'm not 100% with you is that Josh Sawyer had nothing to do with Avowed or Outer Worlds. The last 3 games he's done have all been isometric.
So the only "new" additions they have to the team are Tim Cain. Ignoring that Chris is no longer part of the team, suddenly with addition of Tim on the team Obsidian are going to magically make a good game now?? What am I not seeing here, they weren't lacking in budget for any of their other shit titles, not lacking in the same talent they currently have but all of a sudden they're going to develop their magnum opus because they have the Fallout IP.
>>743234368>magnum opus because they have the Fallout IPTheir magnum opus IS Fallout. I think that's where the hope comes from. Bethesda has fucked up Fallout so bad that nobody believes they can make a good one anymore. Obsidian made the last good one, let them give it another shot.
>>743234368Tim isn't new, he worked on The Outer Worlds 1 and 2.
>>743234632No one is excited for Interplay's version of Fallout you sperg, keep dreaming. They're excited for Bethesda's version of Fallout, the one people have familiarized themselves with for the last 2 decades. If they go the Isometric RPG route it's just going to crash and burn just like Pillars and just like Tyranny. I like the cRPG's but it's not even an understatement to say that barely anyone played the cRPG's because if they had we wouldn't have to wonder about a Pillars 3 or them actually finishing Tyranny. Can you imagine the outrage and indignation if Baldur's Gate 4 was announced and it was in the style of the classics. One and done might be good enough for some people here but I want to see more Fallout not just one fucking game and then never again because it didn't sell.
>>743228068>but he did direct Outer Worlds and Outer Worlds 2Not sure if bait but no, he had nothing to do with the Outer Worlds games or Grounded.He's just credited as “Studio design director” under the “Admin and dev ops” section along with all the other higher up people at Obsidian. Regardless of whether they actually worked on the game.
>>743223012/thread
>>743235097>but I want to see more FalloutBeen waiting on that since F:NV.
>>743222856All these people deserve to never touch videogames ever again, they have sold their soul and fucked trannies.
>>743232585Maybe they changed the setting to Shadowrun, which would've been more interesting.
>>743235378No idea about the other ones but shadowruns returns sucked ass and current obsidian would fuck it up even harder.
>>743235097A Fallout game with the quality of BF3 would be a success. The problem is that Obsidian cannot do that and Microsoft is not gonna fund a game on that scale.
>>743235185>he had nothing to do with the Outer Worlds
>>743235097>No one is excited for Interplay's version of Fallout you spergI think you wandered into the wrong thread bud
>>743226080Starfield was better than outer worldsSure its a shit vs turd competition but it still wins
I highly doubt that the people behind The Outer Wilds and Avowed are still capable of making good games
>>743227579Todd the Subhuman would never make a better game than ObsidianShartfield proved that the manlet is utterly creatively bankrupt. Also has been lying about the new elder scrolls the whole time and did literally nothing after announcing itSuch a scumbag.
>>743235746YWNBAW
>>743234632>Their magnum opus IS Fallout.On Bethesda's engine using Bethesda's game design and systems. I am curious to see what they'll do on their own, but I don't have much hope after their previous two first-person RPGs.
I can't wait for Fallout 5 to be set in a pre-war setting with exciting narratives such as>CORPO BAD>AMERICANA SUCKS ACTUALLY>HECKIN FLOCK CAMERAS>TAKE HRT TO BOOST STATS>ERM, DID YOU JUST SEE A FLASH?>YIKES CHUNGUS 3000>BROWN
>>743235624How about you use that big brain of yours and think about why he’s being listed near “Accounting”, “Legal Counsel”, and other miscellaneous shit instead of with all the other people that actually worked on and designed the game.He has a high up position at Obsidian, his name gets put into the credits of every game they make.
>>743233646no the new Obsidian Fallout absolutely will be first person, what Josh Sawyer was working on has mostly been scrapped except for story elements I guess
>>743227579>or they make a shit falloutBut a shit game is a lose scenario, even if the consequences may include Obsidian's sweet death.
>>743222856Fallout NV was a lightening in a bottle moment. Obsidian came in at the right time at the right place where they got an engine, systems, and assets that helped do 75% of the work needed. They don’t have that anymore. The best they have is fallout 4 to use and that’s from 10 years ago. To make a Fallout game from scratch you can fucking forget it. Obsidian isn’t equipped to do that if you look at their other RPGs
>>743235887its not being made by Bethesda so you don't have to worry
>>743235996>But a shit game is a lose scenarioWhich is why Bethesda won't be developing it.
>>743236053Yeah instead you'll get an entire quest of forcing an autistic lesbian to ask out her crushActual fucking quest in outer worlds 1 no joke
>>743235983He is below audio director sis.
>>743236020>Obsidian isn’t equipped to do that if you look at their other RPGsThey are more qualified to do it than Bethesda, by that metric.
>>743235983Like Todd does at Bethesda.
>>743227579A shit sequel to New Vegas would be sad and disappointing. There's no guarantee Obsidian and their game will be as good as NV, but they've always been better than Bethesda slop. Bethesda hasn't made a good game since Oblivion at best, 20 fucking years. In fact FO3 was the game that marked the definitive start of their decline. They make the blandest sandbox trash possible by throwing out every scrap of writing, world building, and rpg mechanics.
>>743235983Yeah next to meaningless positions like art director
>>743236020>To make a Fallout game from scratch you can fucking forget itAnons have made the point that this is precisely what they are doing. Next Fallout is gonna be on UE5 and Shawarma will force most studios to use that engine.
>743236206>743236171
>>743236171Neither of the them are. The best time for Obsidian to do this was a few years after Fallout 4
>>743222856u mean GAYSIDIAN lmao kek
>>743236020>The best they have is fallout 4 to use and that’s from 10 years agoThis is exactly what bethesda would have done anyway, and it was built on top of Fallout 3 to begin with, which was already built on top of Oblivion. It's slop all the way down.
>>743236282Unfortunately Todd shit all over that idea so someone had to come in and take it away from him. Furthermore, while Obsidian has dropped it's share of turds in the punchbowl, they have made GOOD games, and good RPGs at that, in the last 15 years. What has Bethesda done in that time?
>>743236529Fallout NV worked because it was on creation engine. People who know nothing about game engines will hate it but they don’t understand how shit a fallout game would be if UE5 handled the game logic. You can just look at Stalker 2 and how things like AI and worldpersistence was heavily nerfed when they switched to UE5
>>743236543>they have made GOOD games, and good RPGs at that, in the last 15 yearsNo they haven't. Pillars was shit, Tyranny was unfinished and bland because it was Avellone's work and he got booted mid-development and both TWO1/2 and Avowed are bland, forgettable snoozefests. Meanwhile people are still playing F4 (and 76 for some reason).The only decent game Obsidian has made that was entirely their own and not using someone else's assets or IP was Pentiment.
>>743236880>Pillars was shitContrarianism is shit
>>743237048It's shit, sorry you had to hear it from me, nobody wanted a knockoff Baldur's Gate game. Unsurprisingly, the lore and writing were shit as well, hence why no one ever mentions the game and why Avowed was also forgettable.
>>743236880People are still playing F:NV as well.
>>743237280Because it's on creation engine and plays like a Bethesda game.
>>743237387gamebryo*
>>743236124>>743236209Feel free to look at the multiple interviews he’s given where he explains he was burnt out after POE2, and didn’t do any directing or design after that until he pitched Pentiment
>>743236880Pillars is currently sitting at a higher rating on Steam than F4 or F76.It's lower than F:NV though. You can make of that what you will.
>>743237493The credits don't lie.
>>743237521>Pillars is currently sitting at a higher rating on Steam than F4 or F76.That's sar logic. Doesn't actually play games, just looks at numbers to shill upcoming games on the internet.
>>743222856Obsidian? You mean the Obsidian that made Avowed? And Tim Cain, the creator of Fallout, who was also involved with The Outer Worlds 1 and 2? Is that really supposed to be good news?
>>743237684That's some pretty weak cope.
>>743237813>literally anybody but the developers of fallout 4 and 76 and starfield are working on the new falloutsounds like good news to me.
>>743237684>A higher rating>But far less sales and playersIf you want to play the number game, Obsidian still loses. I also like how you fail to mention the disparity in the number of reviews.>POE - 10k>POE2 - 8k>F4 - 180k>F76 - 46kAnd that's just English reviews.
>>743228468It's such disingenuous shit. They always say >it's how the game's played. >Just have to do this for the algorithmNo motherfucker, you don't. You don't need clickbait thumbnails and you don't need clickbait titles. I find myself clicking more normal shit these days because all the clickbait just washes together and becomes ineffective. I start distrusting there's nothing good in the video because that's usually the case. Be consistent. Create good content. Be clear about what your video is about. Your fucking name and quality will get the clicks. Not overnight, sure, but they'll come. I have a youtuber I watch from when he was a nobody and now has a quarter million subs. He has the most basic fucking title and thumbnail and I'm excited every time I see his name pop up.
>>743238209Well shit, looking at it that way, clearly the best developer Microsoft could have given it to is Mojang, huh?
>>743222856I can't see why anyone would be upset about this. Unless you somehow think Bethesda could make Fallout 5 good after horrible Fallout 4 and Shartfield. Probably one of the shittiest garbage Ive ever played. How in the world does Emil still have a job when AI can write better than him?
>>743238320>Start numbers game>Get violently eviscerated with facts>No longer want to play the numbers gameYou are so sad man, just take the loss on the chin.
>>743239053I still want to play the numbers game. Minecraft has way more players than F4 and F76 combined, why shouldn't Mojang develop the next Fallout?
>>743239318Because they're the Minecraft studio. Just stop already, you've embarrassed yourself enough.
>>743222856All they gotta do is just take Fallout 4, use the same engine and gameplay, except strip out all that retarded base building horseshit that no one cares about. And just focus hard on the writing and characters and faction quests. Thats how they'll succeed. But if they try to make game from the ground up instead of taking existing skeleton, they'll probably fail. They are never good at that.
>>743239412Ah, so player count doesn't really matter then?
>>743222856Enjoy your gay fish, fag.
>>743239473What does a studio that specializes and exists solely to develop one game have to do with player count? Me thinks I've eviscerated your mind a bit too hard, now you're starting to lose it.
>>743239576Hey buddy, you brought up player count, not me
>>743239615You started the numbers game yourself and started grasping at straws when you realized how stupid that was
>>743239890I think you need to go back and reevaluate these two posts then>>743238209>>743236880
>>743240065>One post has zero mention of numbers>The other is a reply to your initial numbers postHow about you reevaluate this post >>743237521
>>743224105Better than fucking Bethesda. Anything is better than Bethesda's obsession with making the perk "whacky wasteland" the default tone of the fucking series after 4.
>>743240483>>One post has zero mention of numbers>Meanwhile people are still playing F4People are still playing Pillars. You wanna walk this one all the way to the finish line or do you get it now?
>>743240830They've yet to make a Fallout after F4, you nincompoop.
>>743222856would've been good news maybe 15 years ago
>>743227579>there's a no loss scenario, just another really dogshit cash grab sequel continuing to lead to the collapse of the industryI think the only retard here is you.
>>743240935I forgot I typed that, so I guess I did start the numbers game. Oh well, I've no problem playing it if you want to continue.
>>743239431Slow-mo VATS was fucking gay. Give me full stop VATS any day of the week, really made a FPS feel like a turn based strategy game like the original was.
>>743241087My point was always how stupid it was to say that, and you've already aggressively agreed with me, so I see no point.
>>743241404I haven't agreed with anything you said? I really hope you don't think my comments on your mojang attempt was some form of agreement.
>>743237918You will never be an Aryan.
>>743238209Its comparing a niche RTWP kikestarter game with an AAA games, one of which is live service. The whole comparison is dumb and screams of Obsindian shills trying too hard.
>>743239431The base building is hardcoded into the engine, it cannot be removed.
>>743240949Fallout 76
>The makers of outerworlds 2
>>743222856AIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE!!! Bethjeet sisters... is this the jeeta's revenge for all the jeetas we rape and murder???
Old Obsidian is dead. Did we just forget about Outerworlds 1 and 2?
For me it's ninomae ina'nis
>>743242119 Obsindians are now confirmed as the higher caste.
>>743241624Holy shit, your bulb is fucking dim huh? We'll start from the top. Obsidian is better qualified to make the next Fallout game because they have actually made good games in the last decade, and Bethesda has not.
>>743242241>Obsindians=Brahman >Bethjeets=untouchablesIt makes too much sense...
>>743242347>understands the caste system perfectly Exactly sir.
>>743235887All of these appeared in the TV show btw
>>743242329>Obsidian>have actually made good games in the last decade
>>743235887But jeethesda isn't developing it
>>743237618Okay you’re just baiting, nevermind
>>743242610Bruh why would I believe a fucking pedophile kike acting our of his own self interest?
>>743242476PerfectNow I say PoE 1 and 2 are good RPGs
>>743242836>couldn't bear himself to add the CFreudian slip.
funny how todd is treating the show like new games installments to tide us over fallout 5 thats releasing in 2050
>>743242908We can't skip any steps here, I don't want you to get confused again. Just say your next line. (You're supposed to say they suck)
>>743243327Pillars of Eternity came out 11 years ago btw.
>>743243509Alright let's focus on 2 then, but keep the ball rolling. I think you see where this is going and you're just stalling now.
>>743243589Have you played Deadfire?
tl:dw version:>Some people deserve to lose their jobs if games are bad>giving Fallout to Obsidian is a good thing>weird tangent at the end about id job cuts being bad because he thinks they only make good games>no mention of Obsidian making shit for the last decade
>>743243667Played them both. Had issues with both of them. They are good games though, and both good examples of why Obsidian is better qualified to work on Fallout than Bethesda.You going to pussy foot around again?
>>743243812Post playtime with hand and timestamp.
>>743243865Tell ya what bud, if this thread is still up when I get out of work, I will do exactly that. But your hesitation is proof enough that you've got no argument, so keep hitting that F5 key and bumping the thread, I'll check back at 4.
>>743242329They haven't.
>>743228091thats wrong though, its unique, interesting, thought provoking, and fun
>>743244125https://vocaroo.com/128D0TJi6BhS
>>743244203If you'd like to curbstomp me even more, you could post your playtime and hand while we wait.
>>743244287
>>743227812You didn't realize people didn't like Outer Worlds 2? You sure?Even people who defended 1 didn't like it (you can't even join the badguys like in 1).
They literally can't make it worse than Emil and Todd's Fallouts. It's a statistical impossibility.
I really hope they pull the trigger on all the weird clues in Fallout 76 that imply it was just a simulation.
>>743244372Figured as much. I'm glad you realized you were being retarded and gave up on real discussion, I'll see you at 4 if you can manage to keep the thread alive
>>743244460Tranny Vegas fans are just a loud minority.
>>743222856I watch this videos
>Beth drives the car into a lake>lets it sit and rust for years before the lake dries out>Amazon takes the rusted pos and drives a monster truck over it>anon thinks the engine and drive train is still saveableBased retard.And for what? For Season 3 or 4 of that fucking show to retcon it?
>>743244630-9001 Izzathttps://vocaroo.com/1dz8x8VmZlVE
Like 80% of the game cast is gonna be 40+ year old women and 15% incompetent men.
>>743244735Who gives a shit about the show, anon? Do you think the RE movies or the Monster Hunter movie had any bearing on the games?
>>743244686>Same stale jeet bait for the past 3 yearsKys already
>>743244735Pretty sure season 3 will be out before a game can be developed.
>>743245001If NV is so great why aren't more people playing it? Maybe the troons shilling the game on Twitter aren't as relevant as they think.
>>743244686nice jeet botfarm todd
>>743245076>Muh appeal to popularity fallacy Call of Duty is also a great series simply because of the metric of players that play it. You've been doing this same bait for how long now? Get a personality already.
>quitting work at 4 PM is only common in Europe and Israel>it's currently nighttime in Europe
>>743244976Todd declared the show canon and said that future games would be based on it. That decision will need to be reversed.
>>743245223Those are abysmal numbers for Call of Duty.
>>743245340todd lies all the time
>>743245340Todd got made redundant :)
>>743245340>todd saidAnon, todd saying something is basically a confirmation that the opposite is true by this point
>>743245379>>743245386>>743245391We'll just have to wait and see what Microsoft thinks I guess.
>>743245379>>743245386>>743245391>>743245438Antagonizing Amazon and the showrunners would be a retarded idea.
>>743245438They could still go the show canon route, it's true. It wouldn't even have to be from Microsoft, since that fat fag Tim Cain was sucking off the show endlessly and I believe he's working on the new Fallout too.
>>743245223Call of Duty is better than anything Obsidian has put out including NV. The games run well and are fun which are two things that can't be said for any Obsidian game.
>>743245531At this point, you're just begging for people to validate your personality disorder. Seek help
>>743245493Fuck you mean antagonizing? Anyone making a videogame adaptation understands that they exist within their own continuity, dont be a retard
>>743245664>validate your personality disorderIronic thing to say for a Troon Vegas fan.
>>743222856>1.2 million views>People saying Obsidian is back and we're getting quality on the same level as New Vegas>They saying they don't care if the writing is as awful as Outer Worlds and Avowed because Obsidian is still making itDo these people just not play games? Do they just regurgitate other's opinions?
>>743245672The show being canon is literally a selling point of the series.
>>743245762It's not going to be spearheaded by either Outer Worlds and Avowed people
>>743245672Corpo execs aren't known for being the smartest people. I would hope they understand the show audience are mostly non-gamers.
>>743227556Do we have definite proof that he's behind all the writing for this?
>>743245792Absolutely not lmao no executive is gonna greenlight a tv show that demands the viewer to have played some jank-ass old games to have full context
>>743245818Why are you acting as if gay fish sex Sawyer is any better?
>>743245910We don't really have proof of anything yet because I believe this all came from a leak. I think he's supposed to be the project director.
>>743245910>>743246037Nvm I misunderstood your post.
>>743245818John Gonzalez>Horizon II: Forbidden West>Horizon: Zero Dawn>Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor>Guardians of Middle-earthJoshua Eric Sawyer>The Outer Worlds 2>The Outer Worlds>Avowed>Pillars of Eternity II: DeadfireTimothy Cain>The Outer Worlds 2>The Outer Worlds >Pillars of Eternity>WildStar
>>743246037So we have no proof besides a rumor. Yeah, we're getting Fallout: Millenial Writing edition.
>>743245967The point is that the show attracts both fans and non-fans.
>>743245664Building your identity around the Todd bad meme is a sign of a personality disorder. Liking CoD means your a normie.
>>743246153None of them directors for the atrocities of Outer Worlds and Avowed.
>>743226256He's just been pushed by the algorithm the past week
>>743246242Josh was design director for TOW
>>743246165From the article:>Under the new plan, studio design director Josh Sawyer will lead a new title in the Fallout universe — a series of roleplaying games that take place in an alternate history in which the US has been ravaged by nuclear war. The emerging strategy is still in flux, the people said, and could still change.
>>743246242Tim Cain and Leonard Boyarsky were literally the directors of The Outer Worlds.
>>743246153Actually we have no idea who else is working on the game other than Josh Sawyer. It will not be surprising for Gonzalez and Cain to be angry at the rug pull under them and leave Obsidian because of it.
>>743246305You just want to keep being obtuse and pretend like you don't understand what I'm saying. >>743246373Who was the director of New Vegas?
>>743246385We don't actually have any idea of what's going on. The Jason Schreier article is already pretty sketchy anyway.
>>743246385Nigga, Obsidian isn't some massive 1k person studio, they had like 200-250, and that was before the layoffs. This Fallout game is most likely their make or break game, so all hands will most likely be on deck.
>>743246506One thing for sure is that the more ambitious they try to make this game, the more likely it is that the game will never ever get released. Modern Obsidian definitely is NOT made for AAA games and the layoffs will make it even harder for them to scale up their games. People overestimate Obsidian if they think they will ever make something like New Vegas ever again.
>>743246736I don't think the Pajeeta in Chief has any idea of what she is doing, and Obsidian are probably just trying to not get shut down after Avowed 2 was cancelled. By the end of her reign people would be singing the praises of Phil Spencer.
>>743246602But would the hands want to remain in the deck and be forced to make a game they have no interest in?
>>743226546>Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel 2>Brought to you by the makers of the outer worlds and Avowed
>>743246884Yes? What the fuck do you think the majority of the video game industry is these days? And who the hell would apply to work at Obsidian whilst disliking their magnum opus?
>>743224105I trust the company that made Avowed and Pillars of eternity vastly more than the company that made 76 and starfield.
>>743246814We know what she's doing. She's doing lay offs to invite a horde of jeets in with H1B1s
>>743226256He is an avid Bethesda hater, and also an Obsidian fanboy. Last week when the Obsidian firing was happening, X cunts and BSky Trannies were blaming it on Bethesda for their selfishness on not sharing the Elder Scrolls and Fallout IP with other Studios in Microsoft leading to them being laid off. The hate trend catches on. And Bethesda is basically the devil now for daring to hoard their IP. Sharma is now a saint for forcing them to hand out the IP
>>743246980Gonzalez was allegedly working on a new Shadowrun and Tim Cain was working on The Outer Worlds. Those are creative folk so they don't necessarily want to keep working on Fallout.
>>743247303Didn't Tim Cain go apeshit over a guy talking about ugly women in gaming?
>>743247303Doesn't really matter what they want when the people who write their paychecks come knocking.
>>743222856>Peak is back on the menuI predict a 2 points user score, and a 99% yurinalist user score.
>>743247506Tim Cain is 60 years old, he can probably retire. John Gonzalez is more likely to stay, but he worked on the Horizon games, he can get work easily.
>>743245323NTA, but nigger don't pretend like you know what having a job is like. There are plenty of offices that go 7-4 to help avoid commute congestion. Continental America has 4 time zones. Why are you such a retard?>inb4 saar deflection, etc.I curse Vishnu, Muhammad, and kikes
Since the Show is establishing itself in both coasts and the Midwest.I think this game will actually take place in the South or Texas.FloridaLouisianaTexasThose my 3 guesses.
>>743247921>Continental America
>>743247769Oh well, that Fallout game is getting made either way.
>>743222856>brought back Josh Sawyer to make a new Fallout game.god damn, Microsoft must be extremely desperate to bring back Sawyer.let the nigger rest on his New Vegas laurels.
>>743222856>from the developers of the outer worlds and avowedkek, nv was never good.
>>743246209I think they should antagonize the show writers because thry couldn't put out a worse show if they tried. Maybe if they just put out 44-minute clip of Jar Jar Binks dancing it might be worse, but no less lore-breaking
nu obsidian can't be worse than nu bethesda you cannot convice me otherwise both are fucking shit
>>743247996Just like Scalebound, Fable Legends, Everwild, Contraband, Project Milo and Perfect Dark.
wait, wasn't Bethesda pissed off at the New Vegas sales performance, hence why Obsidian wasn't allowed to make a new Fallout game until recently?
>>743247964Okay, double nigger, what would you like me to say? Continguous America? 48-States? Mainland-USA? If we want to side-step your retarded "gotcha", America has 6 time zones, because our territories don't have real humans in them, so they don't count.
>>743222856Oops. Even more woke and more shit than the TV show!
>>743248084Cope and sneed.
If todd isnt involved this thing is gonna bomb, for how shit starfield was obsidian meanwhile released absolute dogshit making it look like gold in comparison
>>743248112This is it, the whole argument right here. Obsidian is going to make a game that is no worse than the game Bethesda would have made, except that it's going to come out this decade.That's the whole fucking picture right there.
>>743248183Don't worry sir, you will learn with time, unless you get rotated to Reddit or something.
>>743227556And tim and leonard
>>743222856In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony Todd's blessing. But because, I am enlightened by Josh Sawyer's intelligence.
>>743248250>cattle graze on slop, news at 11
>>743222856He fell for the old trick again. The Obsidian team that made New Vegas is loooong gone.Stop looking at the name of the developer/company and follow the actual individual talent instead.
>>743248250Season 2 was too much memberberries regarding the Enclave.The show is supposed to be for regular people not gamers who already know the lore and shit.
>>743248346What are you even accusing me of anymore
>>743248160>wait, wasn't Bethesda pissed off at the New Vegas sales performance, hence why Obsidian wasn't allowed to make a new Fallout game until recently?New Vegas actually sold pretty well. The problem is that the game was completely broken on release. But the real issue is that what Obsidian proposed was a Skyrim follow-up, and Bethesda was bound to be more protective there, not to mention that the proposed idea for a sequel was retarded.
surely after starfield and 76 there's literally no way this can fail, right???
>>743248339Obsidian hasn't been able to make an open world game despite The Outer Worlds being sold as a spiritual sequel to New Vegas.
>>743248381The voters aren't the real problem sis.
>>743248430You might understand it in your next life, at least as long as you are born into a less cursed race.
>>743248430It's not worth engaging anymore. He humiliated himself earlier and now he's trying to save face by "getting the last word". Just let him have his little fit.
>>743248532And Bethesda made F4, F76, and Starfield. We're on the same page here.
>>743248701-1 Izzat
#DecanonizeTheShow
>>743248793Fallout 4 and 76 are traditional open world games. Your reading IQ might be too low to be able to have a conversation online.
>>743248967You have debased yourself into defending Bethesda slop online. Commit suicide, you worthless faggot. Also, do you just assume everyone on /v/ is a xitter rightoid tourist? Because why would anyone who isn't care about that image? You are a cancerous loud minority on here. No one gives a fuck.
>>743248967>reading IQlol the irony
>>743249061>You have debased yourself
>>743222856Dear god. What the fuck is up with all that Obsidian shilling? A week ago nobody gave a shit about them. How many Indians did Microsoft hire to shill for Obsidian? I'm not even mad, just disappointed. The game isn't even in development and they're already paying people to shill for it. You don't start with that shit until a few months before release. All that wasted money.
>>743249127Microsoft shills do show up from time to time and it's always the most annoying shit ever.
>>743246602They had 285 employees as of 2025 confirmed by the studio head. They had 52 layoffs total, confirmed by the WARN act filings. So they currently have around 230 employees left. While I agree that most of them will probably be working on Fallout, and it is a make or break for them, they also have more than enough people to work on Grounded 2 and other games.>>743246736Obsidian only had less than 100 people when they made FNV and FNV only had 70 developers from them total. Also going by the article that "confirmed" their new Fallout game, they'll have help from Bethesda who are co-developing the game. Also a ton more money from MS at their disposal. They easily have more than enough people for a Fallout game on the scale of New Vegas right now.
>>743248967And they're absolute dogshit, just like Outer Worlds and Avowed. I get you man, we're all in agreement here, no need for hostility.
>>743249271>playing dumb
>>743249264>Also a ton more money from MS to hire outsourced labor from a certain country*
>>743222856It is still going to be Woke and Gay and Marxist.
>>743249378See>>743248339
>>743248139Good thing everyone knows what a modern Fallout game looks like. If they can't even make a shit version "Fallout New Vegas 2- Shiny UE5 Graphics Edition" then they deserve to be shut down.
>>743249127This board is filled with the minority of people who still care enough about fallout NV to make it their entire personality, so they were doing victory laps about Obsidian getting to work on the IP. This is despite the fact that Jeeta allowing it because Bethesda is busy with ES6 and she wants a game out before the TV series ends. It'd be funny if it was budget game like FNV except this time built off of built off of FO4 and it was a tie in to the Netflix show. You are not getting a new mainline Fallout game with only a few years of development.
>>743248650I already cursed Vishnu, let me spell it out better for youFuck niggers,Fuck kikes, Fuck poojeets,Fuck shitskins,Fuck spics, Fuck muzzies,Fuck chinks,Fuck glowies,Fuck corpo shills,Fuck jannies,and most importantly, fuck you
>>743249620>cannot readSo Obsidian is gonna make an open world Fallout on UE5 from scratch?
>>743250021
>>743249732>only a few yearsIt's been 11 years since Fallout 4.It was 13 years between the launch of Fallout 1 and Fallout: New Vegas.
>>743249127>shillingYou're acting like this board hasn't had New Vegas threads every day/week for the past 10 years. Just because you ignore them, doesn't mean they're not there. Also, people love making fun of Todd and Bethesda for being made to hand over the IP to Obsidian for another game.
>>743250038>cannot readObsidian will make a game that is no worse than the game Bethesda would have made. I don't know why I'm repeating this since you evidently cannot read.
>>743249552The worst is they won't allow real modding. Truly we live in cursed times.
>>743250094Oh okay, you are just retarded, my mistake.
>>743250189Because you literally cannot read since your IQ is subhuman. The Outer Worlds was supposed to be a follow-up to New Vegas, yet it wasn't even an open world game. Obsidian have been working on UE5 for 20 years and they haven't been able to actually make an open world with the engine. Why would they do it now with 25% less staff?
>>743250290
>>743250447Tell me where I mentioned "open world".
>>743250549I mentioned the open world, since that's a basic requirement for making a modern Fallout game. Do you even play games or are you just a mindless shill working on wages that wouldn't afford you a shared apartment in Uttar Pradesh?
>>743250674And I said "Obsidian will make a game that is no worse than the game Bethesda would have made." Now for a third time since you still aren't getting it. Nothing you have said contradicts what I have said.
>>743250845Not having an open world would make it objectively a worse game, since that's the most basic expectation for these games.
I don't know what to think about Fallout 1's and Fallout 2's gameplay. It's better than gta 1's and gta 2's gameplay but everything is so tiny. Interacting with the world is so weird. Its all very mouse focused like a cliking game. I think I'm a bit hypocritical regarding this. I have no problems with playing Pokemon games even the early ones and I played a few games in the 00s that looked similar. I think I'm just too spoiled by 3d open world games.
>>743250930It's going to be Avowed with a Fallout skin.Ands that's exactly as bad as what Bethesda would have made.
>>743251127>It's going to be Avowed with a Fallout skin.That would be quite terrible for all the parties involved.
>>743251187Yes. Like I said, we are all in agreement.
>>743251127No it isn't and even if it was it'd still be better than anything Emil's shits out of his ass and calls it "writing"
>>743222856Terrible news: only Sawyer is back so it'll be Starfield and the Star Wars Prequels all over again with this. >But the New Vegas modIt's a pretentious no fun allowed mod that perfectly displays what'll happen when his retarded as gets surrounded by modern AAA yes men instead of getting tard wrangled by an actual creative team.These creative directors and other fancy designations are just figureheads taking all the credit, then drinking their own kool aid too much gon on to either shit up the IP or make a complete dogshit "passion project".He's just another fucking Todd and George Lucas.
>>743251217Not true. it's a bad attempt at gaslighting and shilling for an jeet-led megacorporation.Both Obsidian and Bethesda could do better. Obsidian could learn to work on the Creation Engine (with help of the id engineers, before they were fired) and hire more staff to make a proper Fallout game comparable to New Vegas and Fallout 4. Bethesda could have worked with the ESO team and id Software to start development on Fallout V earlier. None of this could happen only because Microsoft is run by Epstein-list pedophiles (Bill Gates) and incompetent token Indians (Nutella and Shawarma).
>>743250504>I am not a pajeet and I hate them>"Seethe more, ranjeet!"Your soi is waiting
>>743251582Again, nothing in this post contradicts this>>743248339You've made up an entire argument in your own head.
>>743222856It will be a pozzed 6/10 at best and /v/ will shitpost about it for decades.
>>743251118When you played the game, did it look like that screenshot you got off the internet or did it look a hundred times more zoomed out because you tried to play a game designed for a 640x480 resolution at 3840 × 2160?
>>743227579You're a shortsighted fool. If obsidian has the license it means we won't get a new good FO until they have not only sharted theirs out, but 3+ years beyond that.
>>743251606
>>743252120>a new good FOFrom who?
>>743251889People post online to make arguments, not to mindlessly shill under less than minimum wage.
>>743252120It's been 16 years since the last good Fallout.
>>743222856Woke! DEI!
>>743252260I'd like you to explain who exactly I'm shilling for here. Because my statement is that the game is going to be shit no matter what, and your argument is that Bethesda can do no wrong.
>>743252192Since you seem to want to post anti-jeet pics at me for some reason, here's another, the first in the collection.Hope your brain injury heals
>>743252357Are you an AI bot? That seems less than human, even going by jeet standards.
>>743252192>paying your soldiersThey didn't do this in Yurop either, serving in the army was part of their feudal duty. Although if they survived they were usually rewarded afterwards.
>>743252392That doesn't seem like the full version. Did you edited it on purpose?
>>743252438That'd be really embarrassing if you got outsmarted by an AI bot.
>>743236020fallout 76 has added a lot of things that im pretty sure were never in fallout 4, and while i hate the ultracite shit i wouldn't mind the cryptid enemies and weapons appearing in a new game, i really don't want to see legendary effects or seperate armor slots but i assume they'll return
>>743227812Pentiment is what convinced me Sawyer was a total hack.He's given infinite resources to do his "passion" project and what does he do? A thinly-veiled california portrayed as historical bohemia complete with hotep history and not understanding even the basics of historical europe or even christfags. Should have known better when he went on about how much he loves history and all he cited was american pop-history books.
>>743252392Lmao what a barbaric people. This is what happens when you try to govern a people and give them laws but they push you away and they push the rule of law away with you, an entire country that's just one big slumI like doing the Indian street view trash challenge sometimes when I think of India like in these threads. it's simple, go to google maps and zoom in on ANY place in India, rural or urban doesn't matter, drop the streetview anywhere you want. If you can spin 360° and not see any trash on the streets, you have won. I have never won so far. Time to give it another tr- aw dangit this is fucking impossible
>>743222856>Obsidian got Fallout back!>Bethesda still owns the IP>Obsidian is only making a spinoff>The spinoff is overseen by Bethesda>Bethesda is still making the TV showObsidian didn't get Fallout "back" they got all of their orignal IPs(Pillars/Avowed, Outer Worlds, Grounded, Pentiment) taken from them and turned into a support studio for someone else's IP since their own games constantly flopped.
>>743253441>>The spinoff is overseen by BethesdaOh shit it might actually turn out good then
>>743251548>only Sawyer is backObjectively false, John Gonzalez is back at Obsidian as of last year.
>>743252486No, but some of us have jobs
>>743254592
>>743254191>Two retards Wow... Amazing....Will they circlejerk or start a retarded rivalry shitting things up out of spite? LOL
>>743250119It's been that many years since they started working on any mainline Fallout entry. It'll take 4-5 years to make one on that scale.
why do new vegas fags ignore that obsidian recent output has been just as dog shit as bethesda's, and that even though fallout new vegas was a rush job it had the advantage of reusing a lot of ideas from van buren that were unused for almost 10 years, and new vegas 2 or whatever stupid name they'll give it is going to be a rush job without any story ideas to fall back on.
>>743257963The next Fallout game will be shit. That hasn't changed. But now it will actually come out.
>>743253441It's two wholly owned subsidiaries of the same gigacorporation, Bethesda owns nothing
>>743257165>It's been that many years since they started workingWell gee fucking whiz, I wonder why they lost the IP?
>>743259330Not him but they didn't "lose" the IP.
>ms paint styleimmediate don't recommend channel
>>743223012But he paid for the ad space, so its ok.
>>743240830>whacky wastelandWild wasteland isn't real. It only exists in one fake fallout game. Real fallout games always had wild random encounters.
Chris Avellone was the one who wrote and designed New Vegas as well as Van Buren so what about him?
>>743261154Avellone hates the Obsidian higher ups and left even before the false allegations were thrown at him so I don't expect him to want to work with Obsidian or Obsidian to hire him for this game.
>>743227579>fallout being a dead franchise is a win
>>743262561>fallout being a dead franchise is a winNo, it's not. That's why the IP was assigned to someone who will actually make a fucking game.
