here's that exciting thrilling doom 2016 gameplay i was telling you about
>>743236371Gameplay consists of shooting enemiesLooks fineNot every room needs to have serious sam quantities of mobs
>>7432363712016fags are the most boring niggers alive, its like the worst parts of classic doom and nudoom in one boring game, what an incredibly milquetoast game to want to latch onto. At least the devs grew a spine and made something worth playing afterwards even if it made /v/ seethe uncontrollably
>>743236371yeah anons will play this for 30h in a row and say "yep that's the fun zone"
>>743236371Its so slow
>>743236371Someone post the webms of other games being played like Eternal, with the camera zooming and jumping around.
>>743236371Why is the player not changing weapons after every shot? This is not DOOM®.
Inferior to Eternal but superior to TDA since you actually shoot the enemies instead of play bop it with le color coded projectiles
AAAaahhhh...is that a gamer...playing the game...how he wants....NOOOOO....NOOOOOORGGHHH.....GRAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH *troons out and boots up eternal*
>>743237230>Inferior to Eternal but superior to TD--ACK!
>>743236371This may be boring but at least it's better than the way Eternal straight up punishes you for trying to play your own way.
>>743238273holy kek
>>743238273just one more swing bro you almsot had him
>>743238273The problem here is that you weren't swapping weapons enough
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>>743238273I wonder if this genuinely upsets anyone and isn't just an out of context shitpostIn 2016 quick melee wasn't good for much other than staggering small enemies for a second either. You might hit zombies with it for glory kills but the regular shotgun and heavy cannon primary fires are basically "the weapons you use to set up glory kills" in eternal anyway
>>743242043incredible amount of cope. eternal is just terrible
>>743236371WTF where's the simon says gameplay? why isn't he switching weapons every 2 seconds while jumping around?? this is unplayable frfr
>>743238273isn't there a blade mounted on his gauntlet? why cant u use that?
2016 is goodeternal is gooddark ages is goodthere are games that are a million times worse than the nu doom trilogy, yet some people insist on soiling their diapers over themi cannot for the life of me understand it
>>743236371It's alright as the basis for the other nu-doom games but in itself it's very lacking indeed>>743236617spbp
>>743243420>i cannot for the life of me understand itme neither
>>743243420Newfags that want to fit in by larping as doom veterans and sony fans I assume, every time i see someone complain about the nudoom trilogy on twitter they're sony fans
I liked 2016 and Eternal. Though I would have liked them even more if they weren't built around a chain of little "locked arena with enemies" segments.
>>743236371>no combo each 0.2 secondsbad game
>>743236371yep thankfully doom eternal fixed it and was 10x better gameplay wise
>>743236371https://streamable.com/ta19psI'M FUCKING DOOMING
>>743236371Yep 2016 is incredibly tame compared to Eternal and even Dark Ages (especially its DLC)By looking at this sorry ass gameplay, you can pretty much tell why retards shat on Eternal and glaze this piece of trash Halo game insteadBasically geratric boomers who can't keep up with a fast game
Meanwhile OG DOOM
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>>743236371SOVL>>743237480soulless slop>>743238273soulless slop>>743247526SOVL
>>743247298This looks fun as fuck actuallyShould I get the DLC?
>>743242043It's just emblematic of how far the devs went to make you play the style they wanted.
>clearly playing with a controller>clearly playing on easy LOL
>>743238273I HATE SIMON-SAYS GAMEPLAY>no you only get to have a real punch when the bar management is full!FUCK THIS
>>743247526why are you playing on ITYTD instead of UV?
>>743242043The whole game is designed by this same principle, that's the issue, not this specifically.
>>743248050Not that guy but I probably will once I finish the main game. I saw it priced at $16 on some sites which seems fine to me if it doesnt have more awful dragon, turret, and mech sections taking up the space of better levels.
>>743236371>playing at the easiest difficult to complain how enemies don't do shit
>>743248076recorded on ultra-violence on PC my little nigger
>>743250413nah
>first thing in the webm is a cutscenenot interested
>>743236371fired dev here. if the last doom had been succesful they would have 100% replaced doom guy. he would have just been one member of a team mostly female or none white members. the female members in the team pushed heavily for more female and none white characters to be pretty much half the story focus on the last doom game as it wsa.
>>743250697sure bud
>>743237480>The constant red pulsing screenFor the love of god why, obnoxious colour coded attacks aside that one UI decision alone makes me want to rip and tear my eyes out
>>743236371Why do eternal fags always have some sort of victim complex. You can like eternal or heaven forbid tdag but shit like this is just embarrassing.
>>743250918it's the berserk powerup, you'd know if you played the game
>>743251009It looks like shit, of course i'm not going to touch it.
>>743251175cope
>>743238273>Eternal straight up punishes you for trying to play your own wayYou're the kind of loser who never got invited to play hide and seek because you always went home instead of hiding where you were supposed to
>>743242043/v/ is full of out of touch boomer-groomers who play gacha all day and masturbate to anime. They don't like video games.
>>743251009His laptop from 2016 is too weak to run the game. Please give him some slack.
>>743248438no it isnt
>>743243420a lot of /v/ users are miserable and love complaining about games more than they love playing games, simple as
>>743252919sadly is.
>>743238273zoomers came to this
dark ages is odd i don't know how to place it in this picture
>>743236371I like the way 2016 looks, it ain't as good as Eternal when it comes to gameplay though
>>743236371This is what I mean when I say 2016 becomes boring very quickly because the whole game is just combat vs a few demons in a tiny locked arena then you go to the next tiny locked arena fight a few demons, and the whole game is just this - except the combat itself is very dull and simple.Eternal sadly had the same level design but at least the actual combat was good so it worked. Dark Ages had slighty worse combat than Eternal but it had actually open levels and allowed for a fuckton of demons onscreen at once.
>>743255764see>>743247845
>>743255784uac atlantica is legit one of the best fps levels ever madeshame they nerfed the dlc
>>743256543what makes you say that, with all that meleeing and parrying i'm shooting less and less
>>743236371NOT ENOUGH KEYBINDSNOT SPASTIC ENOUGHIF THE GAME ISN'T A SWEATFEST THAT REQUIRES A MILLION KEYBINDS AND A MILLION COOLDOWNS AND DOESN'T CATER TO A VOCAL MINORITY OF PLAYERS WHO HAVE NEVER PLAYED A SINGLE DOOM GAME UNTIL 2016 OR ETERNAL THEN IT'S BAD!!!!!!!!!!!
>>743237020Eternalsissies get real upset at that.
>>743255764dark ages DLC belongs near eternaldark ages base game i'm not sure about
>>743256749what?
>>743256801
>>743256749correct.
>>743256859EVERY GAME NEEDS TO BE LIKE ETERNAL!!!!! DOOM WAS NEVER GOOD UNTIL ETERNAL, I'M THE AVERAGE DOOM "FAN", YOU CAN'T JUST SHOOT A HOLE INTO THE SURFACE OF MARS LOADS SHOTGUN WITH MALICIOUS INTENT RIP AND TEAR I'M DEMONPHOBIC!!!!!!!!
>>743256909and my personal favorite
Eternalsissies really think red light green light is peak gameplay kek
>>743256976is this meltdown over the dark ages DLC going back to more eternal-like gameplay or what?
Anyone else here would have rather seen them improve on the horror formula of doom 3 instead? I would have had a lot more interest in that since doom 3 was conceptually good but overall just an average game.
>>743256976you ok bud?
>>743248050Only on sale, the base game isn't worth the $70 price tag.
>>743256909Cyberpunk gameplay looks fire
>>743257072I just hate Eternal fanboys bitching and moaning when a game doesn't play like Eternal. Go back to where you came from.
>>743257104absolutely not
>>743257186literally who are you even talking about, absolutely bizarre
>>743256675see>>743247298
>>743257117THE LONGER THE ICON OF SIN IS ON EARTH THE STRONGER HE WILL BECOME!!!!!!!!
>>743256976Not every game needs to be like Eternal but I think it shouldn't be controversial to say that Doom 2016's combat even in isolation is a tad lacklustre. Some games with good combat allow the player to enter a 'fun zone' of sorts, like Titanfall 2 or Vermintide. A strong balance of challenge and spectacle that feels very fun to play. I don't think 2016 has much of a fun zone, at least I never found it. Eternal does, provided that you're willing to adapt to the playstyle Eternal asks of the player.
>>743257278>implying eternalsissies didn't cry about dark ages being different
>>743257104>Anyone else here would have rather seen them improve on the horror formula of doom 3 instead?This has probably been my most disagreed with opinion ever on slash vee when 2016 was coming out, my rationale back then was that you can make almost any kind of action game on gzdoom but you can't make a horror game. Well I was proven wrong on the second opinion mere years later and you also can't make the kind of action game nudoom, eternal specifically, is on gzdoomNow I would next love to see a horror-focused doom however in 2016 I admit I was wrong. Eternal is amazing and total chaos surely is better than any horror game d44m could've been
>>743257397you're creating problems in your head again
>>743257395I did and got tired of the game eventually. It's just so exhausting to play. This is coming from someome who regularly played Eternal on Nightmare, by the way. I really liked the game but at some point it just felt like a chore to play.
>>743236371>>743236617You people are mentally ill
>>743257546If that didn't happen then why did the DLC bring the verticality of Eternal back?
>>743257583>It's just so exhausting to play.I like Eternal but agreed, 2-3 nightmare levels in a row and I feel the same mental fatigue I get editing documents for my work.
>>743236371need moar weapon swaps and spastic mouse movements
>>743257779Which is why even though I hate parryslop, turret sections, the mech, and the dragon, I liked the change of pace in Dark Ages. But of course, the Eternal spastics who want everything to be like Eternal complained and id caved into their demands for the DLC.
>>743236371I enjoyed turning on Siege Mode railgun in 2016, or Mobile Turret chaingun. I don't care that it made the game too easy with Rich Get Richer, it was cool.I don't mind that Eternal was heavyhanded with how it wanted me to play it. The combat was fun.The parrying in TDA never bothered me, for the most part it was well executed. This game finally delivered on all the lorewank about the Doomslayer being an unstoppable force, you can actually do those things in the gameplay and that makes the whole experience good to me.Revelations DLC is peak nuDoom.
>>743259006>Revelations DLC is peak nuDoom.elaborate
So what is this fella? A demon? A Wraith?
It was fine in 2016, and while people are spoiled for mobility now, it's still fine in 2026. Feels like folks underestimate or forgot how chaotic the fights can get with all the enemy mobility and the high damage you take, standing still past the early levels is almost instant death.
>>743259276if i remember right, he's one of the first demons, so basically before hell actually became hell, making him kind of probably from something of a similar era to the mystic bullshit of the wraiths.
>>743259076It's Dark Ages except no bloat or lame parts (mech, dragon), new playstyle (spear) with high skill expression, well designed levels, story makes a lot of things happen but with a lot more elegance and restraint than TAG. Also better music than the base game.
>>743236371zoomie need green parries to enjoy it and a stupid quickswap combo to kill an imp ?
I hear the next Doom game will be made by indians in UE5.
>>743259512But considering that nudoom has basically never had good levels (by necessity almost since it's arenashit), how well-designed we talking about
>>743259276samur maykr jailbait form
>>743259584Most of the levels are styled a bit like metroidvania games, except for the final one which is mostly linear spectacle.
>>743259583id tech is probably the best proprietary engine for 3D first person games (as long as you have raytracing capable card), why would they drop it
>>743259584The spectrum for "good level design" in Doom is kind of haywire to begin with. People mostly seem fine with either the labyrinths of 1 or the giant open spaces of 2, some like the puzzles of 64 and then nothing has satisfied people ever despite the fact that nuDoom really adheres to a lot of modern modder spectacle of putting you in areas to fight lots of shit til there's no more shit.
I don't like how in Dark Ages everything takes place in Hell or whatever, I like Earth architecture.And I especially liked the juxtaposition between the humans and Doomguy.But in Dark Ages, everyone is a fucking hardass just like Doomguy, so it's boring.
>>743259880>And I especially liked the juxtaposition between the humans and Doomguy.you had two games of exactly that, this makes sense considering the setting
What a dogshit thread, OP I will cum in your ass now
melee combat for a fps game is always terrible.didn't work for Zeno Clash and didn't work now in Dark Ages.
>>743236371At least 2016 has nothing as retarded as pic related.
>>743236371Love it.
>>743259697Sounds good, will definitely have to try it out at some point, but I've played like 1/3 of the main game and really cba with it>>743259865None of the mods I play have arenashit design so I really don't care what some retarded corner of the modding scene is doing, it doesn't excuse poor linear design in vast majority of nudoom's levels
>>743259864H1Bs don't know how to use it, runs too efficiently to not sell overpriced gaytracing graphics cards, both of these together make it inherently antisimetic
>>743259950That's gay bro
>>743259880I wish we had more scenes of Doomguy acting like Jack and just not giving a fuck about the story and wanting to skip cutscenes.
>>743259880it takes places in nu ashgard shit with chulthu shit realm and hell levels
>>743236371Id Software is only 200 people in the entire studio, with a huge bunch of them comprising the idtech engineers.Pajeeta fires like 75% of the studio leaving only like 50 people left in id Software, not only that, but nearly all of the idtech engineers were fired.How can Pajeeta expect id Software to make a new Doom game?id Software for all intent and purpose is dead.
I played DOOM as a kid but was never a fan. 2016 is the only one of the nu-DOOM games I enjoyed enough to finish. I don't have strong opinions about Eternal or TDA but I found them both boring enough to never finish them. I got pretty close to the end in Eternal but found TDA so mind numbingly easy that I dropped it right after the first dragon mission. So take that as you will. Or not. But those are my thoughts.
>>743260202that how doomguy should act in dork ages not giving a fuck about space vikingshit specially when he was throwed as cyberfatangel ´s pet
>>743260394those engineers cost money you know, perhaps they should've licensed or let other studios use idtech to avoid getting the axe.
>>743259880what juxtaposition? most are npcs barely reacting to doomguy compared to eternal first show with everyone acted like a gorilla entered the room
>>743260202Unfortunately Dark Ages is when he's the most invested in shit after a point, but it was nice back in 2016.
>chainsaws for magic ammo>shoots epic Arachnotron™ weakpoint after lining up shot for 5 seconds while dashing side to side because pro Quake™ skills>retarded door opening cutscene plays>"Mhmm....rip and tear.. looks like the Hell Priest™ is nearby.. I will rip and tear because I am the ancient Doom Slaya™>"Come on, Vega™">follows Skyrim™ compass>Picks up 10 epic fanfiction-tier lore dumps about how badass the Slaya™ is on the way>Door locks behind the Slaya™ and demons appear>cacophony of retarded monster noises while the fart synth kicks into action>chainsaws for magic ammo>"Rip and tear" WUBWUBWUBBWAMBWAMDUUUUUNUUUUNUUHHHNHUHHH *Uses Flame Belch™ on a deliberately spawned group of Possessed™ and they become Staggered™, does a badass Heat Blast™ and Armor Shards™ fly into the Slaya™'s face*>chainsaws for magic ammo>switches weapons 75 times>dashes aimlessly waiting for a Possessed™ to spawn>chainsaws for magic ammo>swings on monkey bars>performs impse>250 arena laps and 150 chainsaw uses later the Slaya™ is victorious>Mhmm.. The Hell Priest™ is not here.. Better tell Samuel Hayden™ about this>"Come on, Vega™">Walks two meters and Alien Queen™ appears in an epic cutscene>"You will not defeat me, Slaya™, I am the Emperor of the Universe and you are nothing but a Usurper™, the Kar En Kuk™ Council of Elder Alien Space Sentinel Argent D' Nur™ has banished you from the alien kingdom and I will defeat you!">Cut to black and level ends before epic boss fight so player can process how epic this is and maybe make a Reddit™ post about it before carrying on>DUNDUNDUNBWAMBWAMBWAM Mick Gordon farting BAM BAM BAM 50 ACTION POINTS 5 CRUCIBLE CREDIT SENTINEL SHIP ARGENT RECEIVED
Is FPS the worst genre of all time? Jjst shooting niggas is the most boring vanilla ass videogame thing ever. All the can do is either make the shooring flashier, gorier or faster, never more interesting.
I'm not particularly attached to 2016 or Eternal, but TDA grinds my gears in a really specific way. Even on the higher difficulties, you have to go out of your way adjusting difficulty sliders to make the game feel like it's not holding your hand and treating you like a retard. I see people memeing on it for parryslop but it is genuinely kinda insulting how slow and obvious they make all the parryable projectiles/attacks. And your shield charge/other abilities just fucking annihilate enemies in giant fucking splash zones with insane damage for no effort. I'm admittedly not the biggest old school Doom fan so idk if the old games are super hard or not but TDA just feels like a baby game and I can't stand games like that
>>743261290I am a big fan of the old games and your description of TDA is spot-on
there's a parody of this painting in the DLC with the doomguy standing in this exact pose, does anyone have it in high res?
>>743260527>those engineers cost money you knowand, you retard? these guys made a bunch of highly selling games for one of the biggest companies in the fucking worldyou're not letting go a few janitors or some blue haired manager
Why the fuck does doom 2016 make people seethe so hard
>>743236371All doom games are good in their own right except for doom 3
>>743261827Who is seething over itI think you're hearing voices
>>743238273>Eternal straight up punishes you for trying to play your own way.Whats wrong with this? Not every game has to be a sandbox
>>743261827some bitch about it because it started the nudoom resurrection, and certain schizos bitch about it to defend eternal to their dying breath
>>743257478>Entering HabitatThe entire game looks like Doom 1 tech base but with long toxic corridors. What makes that map stands out?
>>743242043This is probably decent bait, but i'll bite anyways. The problem is that it removes player agency. Just because something is not optimal does not mean you should remove the use of it entirely.
>>743263194Habitat is like babby's first doom map, it has symmetrical, mostly square, rooms connected by boring narrow hallways, monotonous texture, retarded secrets and is literally broken you can finish it in under 20 seconds. Unbelievably bad even by mid 90s doom map standards and it was in a commercial release
>>743236735Compare it to any other major FPS in the past 15 years besides the sequels and tell me which is faster, even when he's playing as slowly as possible.
>>743247526Whoa…. High speed gameplay…..
