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Todd has always resented the fact that players prefer New Vegas
so much so that he sent his puppet, Phil Spencer, to stop Obsidian from making a new Fallout game
but then the new Indian mom told Todd that she was the boss
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Reminder that TES6 was supposed to release in 2024, when they were trying to sell to Microsoft.
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>>743237023
>that TES6 was supposed to release in 2024
Sweet Little Lies
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>>743236784
Todd is a poor game director.
He hires programmers who iterate rather than innovate.
And then he pairs those mediocre programmers with scatter-brained oldhead game designers that ask for too much.
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>>743236784
this is literally a "mom says it's my turn on the xbox" situation except it's your chad older sibling saying it instead of a whiny younger one
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>>743238416
Todd, give the Xbox controller to your little brother.
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>>743236784
Yuji Naka level autism. M$ not tard wrangling these people leading us to get games that no one wants like Avowed is kind of sad.
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>>743237023
we got doom year zero this year, looks like fallout 3 remaster is next year
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You can tell they're insecure about how people see their interpretation of fallout.
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Why do you guys want Obsidian to make a new fallout after how bad Avowed and the Outer Worlds was?
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>>743236784
Nigga really inventing retarded conspiracies on behalf of a corporation. Where did your life go so wrong.
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>>743239424
??? We loved Avowed
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>>743239424
I don't really care, I'm just here to rub it in Bethesda's face. Also this >>743239476 is an astroturfer.
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>>743239424
Someone who's starving has no right to be picky about food.
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>>743236784
Phil Spencer is a bigger disaster than Don Mattrick at this point. Imagine just placating to Todd's ego. What a horrible cuckold boss. Fuck him
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>>743236784
todd made skyrim and that game garnered more money and acclaim than all of obsidian's games combined
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This narrative would be so great if Obisidian had put anything out even remotely worth a shit since New Vegas
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>>743239749
>skyrim
It's been 15 years, Todd. Face it,you're out of date.
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>>743239769
Tyranny, PoE1, PoE2 and Pentiment were good.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg_-k_9rTYM
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>>743239424
That's the part I don't get about the retards celebrating. None of the original talent of Obsidian is left. It'll be complete dogshit regardless of whether it's Bethesda or Obsidian.
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>>743240078
Not really.
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>>743239424
because it's ironic that after bethesda shat on obsidian's fallout, specially on that netflix show, they no longer get to make a new fallout, but obsidian does
it's the kind of delicious irony i enjoy, i couldn't give less of a shit about how those games that i'm not gonna play turn out
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>>743239424
Fallout is dead and buried. No matter who rapes its corpse, I'm just happy that Bethesda has to sit in the chair.
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>>743240568
Sawyer, Gonzalez and Tim Cain are there. If they fail, it's not because everyone is gone.
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>>743240675
this
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>>743240568
Cain, Sawyer, Gonzales, Boyarsky.
There's more but those are the leads and they are historic leads when it comes to fallout too.
Who knows, Avellone might even be there, he was offered a job by them a little while ago and while he turned it down he may have not known they were working on fallout, he's said how much he wishes he could work on it again.
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>>743236784
glad to hear todd and his bitch pagliachi getting smacked, particularly the latter since he's the reason everything is so fucking retarded
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>>743241282
>his bitch pagliachi
Emil?
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even if it turns out mediocre it'll probably at least be more internally cohesive
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>>743240831
I am certain Sawyer and the “younger” devs don’t want Avellone back. Tim Cain doesn’t care, he has nothing to prove: its HIS franchise; but the rest of them want to prove they can make Fallout without Avellone. For whatever reason, history ended up making Avellone “the Fallout guy” out of all of them.
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>>743240408
>mightyqueef
stop shilling your channel here nigger
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>>743239424
They are trannies and Indian shills working together in unison.
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>>743240831
So hardcore woke faggots and actual homosexuals?
Great news.
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>>743242603
Todd, you're just mad because I made fun of you.
Don't be a pussy,just make good games.
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>>743241841
They both like each other, watch their videos.
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>>743236784
>working on
Whatever the hell that means
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>>743244098
Tim Cain? Yeah. I know. Sawyer however is a rat who immediately threw Avellone under the bus over the fake rape shit.
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>>743236784
Obsidian bots are working hard this week.
did the microJeetSlop check came in?
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>>743237023
TES6 would have saved many people's lives. Blood is on Todd's hands.
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Fallout India
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>>743244607
Fallout: Hiroshima + Nagasaki
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>>743244589
>TES6 would have saved many people's lives.
No, Todd had a huge group of slackers pointing at a single game and paid their salaries for a full 15 years.
They thought they could make money off Skyrim until the day they died.
That group of people deserved to lose their jobs.
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>>743245497
>They thought they could make money off Skyrim until the day they died.
if left to their own devices, they absolutley could
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>>743239579
>obsidian releases total dogshit with a new vegas 2 sticker on it
>this will somehow "rub it in bthesda's face"
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>>743245550
>if left to their own devices, they absolutley could
The problem is, Bethesda has a new boss now.
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>>743236784
Todd is completely fine with sharing fallout with his homies/co-workers Tim cain and Brian fargo!
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>Arcade the massive liberal faggot
>Cass won't have sex with you
>Veronica won't have sex with you
remind me why people liked new vegas again
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>>743245813
The best character in all of video games
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>>743239424
I don't really care at this point. It's either wait for Bethesda to make a 4th shitty Fallout game that will come out in 2035 at best or watch Obsidian make one that could possibly be terrible.
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>>743245813
because there are other good characters in the game, and the game itself is pretty good too
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>>743245813
You have the choice to get all those characters killed or give them bad endings.
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>>743236784
Wasn't Outer Worlds also marketed as being "similar to Fallout"?
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>>743246335
>all companions are lesbians who won't have sex with you
>ridiculous liberal propaganda
it was definitely new vegas coded
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>>743245550
Unfortunately they wished to develop new projects, which means those gains were frittered on junk like Starfield. Actually, not "like": JUST Starfield, it's the only thing they released in the past five years.
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Literally can't be as bad as bethesda
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>>743236784
Asha Sharma, she cash in on Todd's bad karma.
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>>743239424
I want both obsidian and inxile to make their own fallout game so we can see which crew of former fallout devs from interplay and troika can make the better fallout game.
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>>743237023
I bet fallout 3 remaster is next year
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>>743241379
yes, but I prefer to call him "clown"
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>>743245704
I'm sorry for your loss, Todd.

(I'm not)
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I wonder what pete "not interested in building a believable world" hines thinks of all this
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Think about all the years they spent supporting this dogshit instead of letting Obsidian make whatever Fallout they were working on.

Got what they had coming!
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>>743246836
>Clockwork Revolution
Isn't that the name of that cringe Zelda fanfiction
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>>743239424
Outer Worlds 2 has fucking stupid writing.
Fallout 4 has outright braindead writing.
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>>743239424
Kek its funny that there will be dumbassed being nostalgia pre-order baited into buying bad quality stuff, without even thinking logically that almost nobody that made the game 16 years ago is not even there anymore and that it will very likely be a game more alike and a mirror of the newer releases that were bad quality.
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>>743249924
>there will be dumbassed
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>>743239424
bethesda can't make an original game either (see saarfield) and the fallout ip alone can carry what would otherwise be a boring game (imagine if starfield/outer worlds just had the fallout perk system and enemies, both would be massively improved)
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>>743245813
I hate being an ideas guy who can't program. I've wanted to make a romance mod for the companions for a while now. One of my many ideas is, if you take Confirmed Bachelor, you can eventually romance Arcade, but it has to be between first recruiting him and completing For Auld Lang Syne. One of the endings is, if you romance him, sell him into slavery, and Caesar lives, Caesar will posthumously recognize Arcade as the Son of Minerva; ironically, his suicide causes a scientific Renaissance within the Legion, and begins to bridge the gap between the Legion and the Followers.
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>>743236784
If The Outer Worlds is anything to go by, then Obsidian are just a shit developer. I don't get why Redditors LOVE Obsidian, they are not a good dev at all.
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>>743251628
For the same reason they love Troika despite VTMB and Arcanum being unfinished hot doo doo feces
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>>743237023
Muh covid has always been cope for layoffs, look at all those titles per year that is the real reason companies had ample staffing. The point is they release several games a year and they could do that because of the large teams. However once Microsoft bought them they thought they could just coast indefinitely on 1 game every 6+ years and now the layoffs are happening because they are produced nothing
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>>743239424
because both of those are better than bethesda's games.
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New Vegas has to be the most overrated game in existence.
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>>743252014
Skyrim is better than Avowed, though.
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>>743236784
Why would obsidian work on a FO game before recent developments? Isn't it bethesda's IP?
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>>743236784
Wasnt this quite obvious with the whole Amazon show taking a fat steamy shit on the Interplay/Obsidian games?
You know the show were Todd and Emil were present as advisors?
Watching that shit felt like the biggest humiliation ritual since the Disney Star Wars sequels
For fucke sake they named the main character after Todd Howard
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>>743252439
>Isn't it bethesda's IP?
Owned, but not their own creation.
Also they're going to take another 5 years to make TES6, so you won't see Bethesda made Fallout in another 10 years
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>>743236784
new fallout and skyrim before 2030 or you are fired todd
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>>743252518
It sucks we have to wait that long for a Starfield 2, at this rate.
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>>743240786
>Sawyer, Gonzalez and Tim Cain are there
And they have released nothing but dogshit while being there.
If they had talent, it's gone.
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>>743252439
Because management at Xbox/Microsoft finally realized that they own Zenimax, Bethesda, and Obsidian and that having 20 fucking years between (actual) sequels for one of your popular franchises in history is a really fucking retarded idea so they're putting their foot down and reducing that number to 15 instead.
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>>743252685
>Starfield 2
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>>743252987
It's going to happen eventually, Starfield is insanely popular.
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>>743236784
>all their games suck
>the only game people like of theirs is a mod of a bethesda game
>everyone cheers when the IP is taken from bethesda
I will never stop laughing at retarded fans destroying an IP while getting exactly what they asked for
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>>743251628
it's pretty funny that you retards keep making this argument that's instantly destroyed by the mere existence of saarfield
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>>743253129
You're right, the fact that Starfield mogs the shit out of everything Obsidian made for the past decades shows how much better Bethesda is as a dev.
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>>743253287
it's truly the new skyrim
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>>743253073
>people cheer that they'll be getting the next fallout game before the year 2038
wow, that's crazy
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>>743253287
This always makes me laugh. Starfield has had more players then the estimated sales/players of Pillars 1, Tyranny, Pillars 2, Outer worlds 1, Pentiment, Avowed, and Outer worlds 2 combined.
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>>743239424
/v/ doesn't care about games outside shitposting
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>>743253535
When it flops you're never getting another. Handing it to a c-tier developer that only makes flops because you like 2 writers on staff is an insane move. This is also going to be the first encounter with the gaming ip from half the tv slop audience and they aren't going to like obsidian approach to game design.
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>>743239659
starving? nah. we're simply on a cut, trimming the fat, dodging the heart attack
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How the fuck did bethesda have a team four times the size of their skyrim team, 14 layers of management, and over a decade produce nothing since fall out 4 which fucking sucked and let their biggest IP fucking rot and die.
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>>743254556
Money laundering scheme. They just have their employees do jack shit all day. Maybe make cosmetics for ESO
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>>743254556
> produce nothing since fall out 4
Bethesda worked on the initial release of Fallout 76, which came out in 2018, and then moved to Starfield, which came out in 2023. And Starfield was supposed to come out in 2022, Microsoft just gave them an extra year to do QA on the game.
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>>743254556
Bethesda only had like 200 people for the past decade and they can only work on one game at a time.
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>>743239659
Spencers idea was that a large amount of studios would sell gamepass. Obviously didn't work.
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Todd went from Tenpenny Towers in Fallout 3 to girlboss mugs and body type A/B in Starfield. He's earned his failure.
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A single likable character could have salvaged Starfield like Mandalorian And Grogu. Nope, couldn't even do that.
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New Vegas fags are Confirmed Bachelors
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>>743244589
>every Beshesda game is worse than the one before
If anything, he would have more blood on his hands. Todd saved lives by lying about his games as usual.
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>>743253537
And yet Starfield is a worse game than any one of those.
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>>743236784
>obsidiots still think the victim angle they played when New Vegas was first released is still relevant
Anyone who's anyone has seen by now what obsidian is capable of when not ''constrained by third parties'' and honestly neither Avowed nor the two attempts at ''New Vegas at home'' which was Outer Worlds are anything to write home about.
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>>743239424
Can't be any worse than 4 or 76
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>>743256379
all of that is irrelevant when new vegas is better than anything bethesda ever put out
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>>743239424
they are trannies
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>>743246068
>could possibly
it's a 100% certainty, troon
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>>743236784
>used two seasons of a TV show to shit on the entries Todd didn't make
yeah, we know
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>>743256632
new vegas is irrelevant in conversation about what they can make today
games 16 years old, nobody who worked on it is still the person they were in 2010
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>>743239424
only hope is josh sawyer barely being involved in either
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>Obshitian has never made a single good game
>s-s-surely this time will be different!
>says the tranny that only cares about the game being woke
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>>743256815
that part is probably true. i heard they got some of the old guys back though
in any case, whatever they put out will be better than 3/4/76
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>>743256632
And it still gonna be a gimped final result that not even years upon years of modding will be able to salvage.
See there was never a need for anyone to shoot them in the foot ,they are perfectly capable of doing that themselves.
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>>743255102
I think the premise of Gamepass is just flawed on its face
how can you justify the cost of developing games when your plan is to cripple its ability to sell copies and make its money back?
even with "forever subscribers", by what metric do you divy up the credit for generated revenue
the streaming/service format makes sense when you're using it as a resting place for old titles without any more avenues to generate revenue on their own, but I can't see how the numbers work the second you start actively spending money on new content for it
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>>743257056
>whatever they put out will be better than 3/4/76
it won't
don't forget to dilate
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>>743245813
well, I at least remember all of those characters, for one thing.
Tell me anything about Charon.
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>>743236784
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>>743251581
>I hate being an ideas guy who can't program.
This is what chatgpt is for friend.
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>>743239424
any game is better than 10 years of no game
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>>743253129
>bethesda being shit means that nuObsidian can't be shit
The mind of an idiot is a mystery.
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>>743254743
>Money laundering scheme
You're a retard scheme. You don't know what money is, you couldn't do laundry if your life depended on it and you could scheme all your life and still not figure out what money laundering is or how it works.
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>>743260289
nah, 10 years of no game would be perfect to clean up the backlog
maybe even clean up the life
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>>743236784
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>>743256379
People are hyped for NV2 because NV1 was a lot better than F3 and F4. Not because of whatever you are hallucinating about.
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>>743236784
This was the correct call. TESVI probably won't be done until 2030, then it's another 4-5 years until FO5. Any normgoy hype for the series from show would have been long gone by then.
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>>743260487
outer worlds 1 and 2 are better than starfield
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>>743260415
>i would rather have shit and nothing for another 2 decades than gamble on at least getting something okay and new from the ip
okay
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>>743239424
This, modern Obsidian is garbage and not capable of making a NV2. We're going to get slop full of soillenial humor and bluesky rhetoric.
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I don't mind outer world(s) but I also don't claim they are that good. I keep seeing people on here say avowed is good. Why? Its shit. I uninstalled it after an hour and a half absolute shite
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>>743260608
Than why did nobody play them?
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The only good fallout game is fallout 1.
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>>743239424
>Why do you guys want Obsidian to make a new fallout after how bad Avowed and the Outer Worlds was?
YES

i really don't understand the argument AGAINST this idea

if it sucks then don't buy it and don't pirate, you lose nothing by the game sucking. Even if there was only a 1% of it being good, what's the downside exactly? The show has already raped the lore and if nothing is done with the franchise it will just live on as live service slop

you miss all the shots you don't take, worst case scenario, you can just pirate it but I rather have Obsidian give it another go than to keep wondering what could've been forever
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>>743236784
>it took a foreigner taking over on behalf of other foreigners, a fucking INDIAN, for MS to let obsidian try again with Fallout
That's unbelievably grim. It's basically Nepotism (indians) vs Cronyism.
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>>743260487
>500 in avowed
What's wrong with those people?
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>>743261073
>Why?
They get paid to do so. That game was godawful
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>>743257208
You can monitor playtime and no. of downloads and divy up the credit from there. It's what streaming services for music, Tv and film do. If they aren't doing that already, they are absolutely retarded. That said, playtime is a shit metric for a 10 h singleplayer game. Either lower the quota for those or just don't put them on there day 1.
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>>743261878
charge by playtime. if one player plays a game for 6 hours and the other plays it for 50 the one who plays for 50 gets charged more
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>>743261978
Dafuq are you on about? The problem that needs solving here is that a longer game seems more successful even if it isn't, not that Microslop isn't charging enough.
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>>743239424
Shills, they’re shills.
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>>743236784
>phil spender
lol
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>>743245813
YOU ACTIVATED ARCHIMEDES??!
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>>743261978
literally no one would agree to this
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>people crying that outer worlds or avowed are mediocre

Both games have more fidelity and depth than anything Bethesda shat out in the past 15 years
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>>743245813
i really, really, really liked this bald bitch especially at the start when she's mute and talking in gestures to you, pure sex
also dala and the light switch are sexo too
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>>743265019
still doesnt mean they are good
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>>743237023
>people died before TES6 came out
Grim
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>>743265232
i'm not saying i want this.. but it would be kinda funny if that dovahkin kid died before elder scrolls 6
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Crazy shit, wow.
Page 10 + hidden
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>>743236784
I one time worked in a large corporation of 4000 people and half my work was dealing with people trying to sabotage me so they can get ahead. It was the worst experience and I would never do it again
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>>743239424
Because Xbox trannies and niggers think they can just wave their FNV2 bait around and it'll justify 13 years of being fucking scum.
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>>743236784
Phil gave Bethesda brass everything they wanted to the detriment of Microsoft and was fired for it.

Asha has humiliated Todd and Emil.
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>>743239424
A large part of what fucks those games is that the worlds they are based on are kind of ass. Outer Worlds 2 is a lot better than Outer Worlds 1 but it can't get away from the original being the most hamfisted anti-capitalist message I've ever seen
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>>743244589
Lol no, normies will ACK if they're expecting a good game from modern Bethesda. No one with half a brain is looking forward to TES6, not before the Microsoft buyout and certainly not after
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>>743239424
I do, because I WANT these people to see how bad it'll be.
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Bethesda trannies are really mad today. By the way, no one is gonna give a shit about Elder Scrolls 6, so I cant wait until it flops and Asha just fires the entire studio. If it really is Hammerfell,no one is playing this woke garbage. They'll just go back to Skyrim and larp as Nords since its a white man's game
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>>743239424
Pentiment their other recent game was amazing, my favorite adventure game and probably in my top 5 games I’ve ever played. I’ll give them another shot.
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Why didn't xbox try to recreate the xbox live era by buying/partnering a bunch of indie studios?
For the price of 1 single AAA game you could get what 10-15 indie games?
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>>743236784
>Todd gets revealed to be the pettiest bitch ever
>loses control over his key IP when hes not fucking shit up in Elderscrolls his saving grace

lord does this mean we'll actually get a game not made in Gamebryo holy fuck bethesda literally is holding the series back.
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>>743269751
>Bethesda still controls the IP
>Obsidian is working under the supervision of Bethesda
>They stopped using Gamebryo after Fallout 3/NV
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>>743236784
>has always resented the fact that players prefer New Vegas
over Fallout 3? yes. Over Fallout 1 and 2? Lol
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I love how people just manifest this shit out of wholecloth. What evidence is there that Todd hates New Vegas?
>Bethesda shill.
Lmao.
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>>743269886
Todd probably posts here. He is jealous that his games will never have cultural relevance like new vegas
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>>743237023
These are the people we've put our faiths into. The lies just keeps going, huh?
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>>743270038
he need not be jealous of New Vegas, he grew Fallout as a brand.
Elder Scrolls is a cultural milestone
I'm sure his therapist has told him that which is why he pretends he's okay with New Vegas.
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wtf i love indians now.
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>>743239659
His plan was to make xbox into a something like nintendo BUT also a streaming service. Problem was these studios take ages to make just one game. So Xbox basically made these studio owners into billionaires so they could make millions every couple years from them.

Xbox is going to end up being a big graveyard.
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>>743270038
>ogrebattle 64

I doubt the validity

I love that game but it doesn't belong in this list.
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>>743269751
>pettiest bitch ever

This is literally just fanfiction shitposting, i cant believe retards are using that as fact here.
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>>743265093
Modern Bethesda games aren't good, TF are you implying?
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>>743258005
All great games minus TOW Bethesda, meanwhile, has only made one good game; Morrowind.
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>>743260487
Brand recognition matters more to normgroids than actually good games? Wow, say it ain't so.
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>>743261073
I think it's just people being contrarian. Maybe some autistic "you are saying the game is trash, but I think it's mediocre, so now I have to say it's great to even things out".
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>>743274174
You're retarded.
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>>743269829
>>They stopped using Gamebryo after Fallout 3/NV
That's such a dishonest "uhm akshually".
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>>743269829
no they don't, no it isn't, it became the creation engine and is still buggy shit
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>>743240675
>being such a larper you think netflix is involved
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>>743276793
>no it isn't,
Literally the report about the new Fallout game says Obsidian is working under Bethesda who is overseeing the game's development.

you really think after nearly every Obsidian game since NV has flopped that Xbox would let them work on a major IP without a babysitter?
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>>743276885
>Literally the report about the new Fallout game says Obsidian is working under Bethesda who is overseeing the game's development.
no it didn't.
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>>743277040
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-07-08/microsoft-s-xbox-to-shift-obsidian-studio-to-new-fallout-video-game?accessToken=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJzb3VyY2UiOiJTdWJzY3JpYmVyR2lmdGVkQXJ0aWNsZSIsImlhdCI6MTc4MzUzMzE2NSwiZXhwIjoxNzg0MTM3OTY1LCJhcnRpY2xlSWQiOiJUSFZBWklWVFRDWk0wMCIsImJjb25uZWN0SWQiOiJCMUVBQkI5NjQ2QUM0REZFQTJBRkI4MjI1MzgyQTJFQSJ9.9UWhy-Whti5Meu89-fQ5LQd_ZHqAtJVbXoWOcVtFkkU&leadSource=uverify%20wall
>Studio design director Josh Sawyer will lead the new Fallout title, and Obsidian will work with Bethesda Game Studios on the project, which is part of Xbox CEO Asha Sharma's plan to invest more in the company's biggest franchises.
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>>743277169
>the report about the new Fallout game says Obsidian is working under Bethesda
okay where does it say that?
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>>743270038
Didn't know /v/ was so full of trannies
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>>743249231
I have no idea what you're talking about.
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Both of these studios are hot garbage now
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>>743274534
Yeah, the Obsidian brand is the only reason anybody even tried those terrible games.
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>>743245813
>why is this post apocalypse western not a dating sim
FAGGOT
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>>743239476
Go away troon.
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>>743241841
Ironically, I'm almost certain this project is fated to fail without Chris. Say what you want about him, but when working on Van Buren, he was already thinking how he would expand in a future sequel if he was given the greenlight by Interplay. He knows how to world build, he has a lot of imagination and creativity. In his interview with TKs-Mantis, he shared many storyline and gameplay elements he had planned if he'd had an opportunity to work in a Fallout New Vegas sequel. Even if Sawyer and Gonzalez get their groove back, I don't think that's gonna be enough to put it in the same pedestal as New Vegas.
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>>743236784
Obsidian died though. Completely infiltrated and replaced. No surprise they’re getting permission now.
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>>743270038
>80. ASTLIBRA Revision
very based
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>>743236784
>Todd: I wish I could have made The Outer Worlds 1, 2 and Avowed
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>>743261309
>you miss all the shots you don't take
Go deep ocean exploring with the next oceangate submercible then ,you wouldn't want to miss your shot would you?
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How long I see an article about them seething about being asked for a romance route
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>>743236784
what a miserable midget thank god hes gone
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>>743253537
Starfield also has bigger budget and more people working on it
While Even Avowed has better reputation than starfield
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>>743254914
Yeah 200 people and 30 sub studios at their disposal
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>>743257292
Nah you dilate
Bethtranny
Fallout 4 was a dogshit game
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>>743261126
Not enough brand recognition
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>>743282691
Avowed has a much worse rep than Starfield.
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>>743260487
Lmao
Imagine getting mogged by bunch of europoors
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>>743282813
Lol no
Avowed is meh and underwhelming for a RPG but a fun action game
While starfield is literal dogshit
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>>743282917
>ignores that 70% of Starifeld players are on Goypass which isn't registered on Steam
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>>743280362
Why are you so upset? Anon is right
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>>743283004
>But it's on goyrim
KCD is also on game pass now not to mention fuck ton of gamepass games are doing better numbers

Also it's KCD1, KCD2 rapes starfield and oblivion remake
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>>743283108
>KCD is also on game pass now not to mention fuck ton of gamepass games are doing better numbers
Starfield has been called out as being one of the top games on goypass, even today.
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>>743239424
Because the big names working on the new Fallout either left and just came back (Gonzalez), were working on a personal passion project while the rest of the studio was making Outer Worlds and Avowed (Sawyer), or were only in an advisory role on the slightly better Outer Worlds 2 before this point (Cain).
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>>743273186
did you not see or read about s2 of the show? and avellone said todd didn't even want nv to even happen cause todd is a control freak
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>>743283192
Those numbers are still dogshit for a flagship Bethesda title
Keep up the cope
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Obsidian takes Kotor from Bioware
does it better.
Obsidian takes NW from Bioware
does it better.
Obsidian takes Fallout from Bethesda
does it better.(really a successor studio to black isle anyway)
Obsidian takes Fallout from Bethesda again
...
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>LegacyKilla
Not reading this shit, nigger.
I knew this faggot before he got big on yt and he's an actual trailerpark mongoloid with a single digit IQ. Him getting big off outrage grifting does not surprise me. He even confessed this shit to me personally, because he needed to support his 600 pound landwhale of a wife. I was not being hyperbolic about the trailer park shit.
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>>743283828
>Obsidian takes Kotor from Bioware
>does it better.
KOTOR 1 sales: 3.2 to 4.2 million copies
KOTOR 2 sales: 1.5 million copies
KOTOR 1 review score: 94
KOTOR 2 review score: 86

>Obsidian takes NW from Bioware
>does it better.
NWN 1 sales: 2.2 million
NWN 2 sales: 300-400K
NWN 1 review score: 91
NWN 2 review score: 82

>Obsidian takes Fallout from Bethesda
>does it better.(really a successor studio to black isle anyway)
Fallout 3 sales: 12.4 million
New Vegas sales: 11.6 million
Fallout 3 review score: 93
New Vegas review score: 84

Looks to me like Obsidian is the company known for making inferior versions of other people's better games, that sell less than the games they are sequels to anon.
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>>743284042
>sales as your only metric
go watch supergirl bro
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>>743284076
>sales as only metric
>ignores all the review scores
Blind, dyslexic, retarded, bait, or some combination of the four?
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>>743284042
The pajeeta will be fine with obsidian if their next fallout game sells 11 million Copies
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>>743284042
>numbers
You lack any divine light and if you skull was smashed in with a hammer the world would not be negatively affected by the loss of you..
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>>743284146
Score from the same critics who shill up every cod?
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>>743284042
>But heckin sales
NV is better than every beth game made after morrowind
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>>743284375
>2026
>Obshitiots still in denial about their favorite company's inability to make a game anyone cares about
>Still angry that every other major western RPG dev is more successful then they are
Always a good laugh.
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>>743284042
>>743284146
The truth of the matter is that Obsidain games until the death of Old Obsidian with Tyranny, were universally either unfinished or were very buggy on release and so were docked in score due to those issues.
But the thing that actually matters about them is that they are very well written games with a lot of cool interesting concepts and good player choice that succeeded in spite of their technical failures.
However because of their narrative focus they are one tier up on the "snooty high art bullshit" spectrum that Bethesda (just one), but the snooty high art bullshit has a greater inherent value to it to people who actually care about good things rather than just dopamine loops.
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>>743284452
They are thousand times better than Bethesda
Outer worlds is better made than fallout 4

Also there no better Devs to make a fallout rpg
Because CDPR shat the bed with Cp2077 and larian and warhorse haven't done any sci fi
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>>743239424

Because of how bad Fallout 3 and 4 and 76 were.
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>>743284591
>Outer worlds is better made than fallout 4
Actual bait. Even Obsidian fans hated Outer Worlds to the point even Obsidian shills like MrFaggyPlays have had to acknowledged even his usually pro-Obsidian fanbase didn't like it.

>Also there no better Devs to make a fallout rpg
Larian, Warhorse, CDPR, InExile, and Owlcat, would do it better.
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>>743284661
Ow is dogdoodoo but unlike fallout 4 it's an actual rpg
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>>743284661
Fallout 4 is literal pile of shitty
That's carried by the up and engine
There's nothing good about it in terms for game desing or writing

Obsidian already had a lot of experience making a fallout like game
Meanwhile other Devs would have to start from scratch
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>>743239424
>Obsidian releases a game
>it’s shit
>Bethesda gets the IP back
>wastes a decade and hundreds of millions before releasing a game
>it’s also shit
Why wouldn’t I want this outcome?
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>>743284741
Its still far better than anything Obsidian has shat out in the last 16 years
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>>743239189
>>743236784
What Phil Spencer was doing is all the proof you need that what a lot of people both on /v/ and in the wider world had been saying for years on end:
>Just take renowned studios, throw money and time at them, give them creative freedom, and they'll produce hits!

Is complete and utter nonsense. Bethesda is the shining example of that, but so is another dozen studios under Microsoft's umbrella that did fuck all for all those years.

Obsidian is a curious case in that they WANTED to work on multiple IPs, but were said NO over, and over, and over again, even though nobody else was touching said IPs.
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>>743284817
No it's totally
Pentiment mogs most games in terms of writing
Avowed is actually a good action game
Same with grounded being really good
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>>743239769
South Park: The Stick of Truth
Tyranny
Pillars of Eternity I
Pillars of Eternity II
Pentiment

I would even say that Avowed is a solid 6/10, a 7/10 if you like the setting. Only TOW were complete pieces of shit.
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>>743284901
>Pentiment mogs most games in terms of writing
>Avowed is actually a good action game
>Same with grounded being really good
Said no one ever but the most dedicated Obsidian shills.
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>>743236784
You retards are so delusional it is fascinating.
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>>743277946
I imagine a post-apocalypse western would be rather rapey. The real reason is Obsidian can't write sex because they're too awkward and dull as human beings. Obsidifans want them to have a BG3 style budget but Larian can write sexy characters and still have a sense of humour about it.
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>>743284875
Bethesda have always been frauds that have relied on people nostalgia goggling them for years just because they were kids that played their games
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>>743244245
No, retard, Avellone wasn't fired for the "rape" allegations, those came after.

He was fired because due to his rampant alcoholism he was showing up at work drunk or not at all, and then would throw fits that his content didn't get proper attention.

An ex-Obsidian employee did a nice write-up on RPG Codex about the situation.
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>>743285047
All those things are objectively true
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>>743245813
>>743285086
I'm glad they don't pander to sex obsessed losers, makes the games more grounded in reality
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>>743236784
Why doesn't Obsidian Entertainment just made their own post apocalyptic game that isn't set in Fallout's universe? If Bethesda is just going to be a massive dick about giving the greenlight, I would do my own.
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>>743269236
>If it really is Hammerfell,no one is playing this woke garbage.

It's not even that, they'll obviously be repeating the Dragon Shouts formula, only with Sword Singing.
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>>743285579
They started to. Kali Ma told them to make it Fallout.
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>>743285750
Would
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>>743285579
Have you seen their other original IPs? Fucking garbage like Outer worlds
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>>743285652
>starfield, oh cool a sci fi game i wonder if theyre actually gonna do something different
>you are the starborn and you use space shouts
fucking hell
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>>743286217
It's just pure laziness. Imagine being so lazy and unproductive a jeet in charge is an actual improvement.
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>>743286357
People eating up Fallout4 really made the brazen
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>>743239424
I just want them to get the oldheads back from Black Isle Studios and do a proper Fallout game. If it's shit, it's shit. I'll accept that it's a product of its time and that we can't have nice things anymore.
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>>743239424
Avowed is a better game than anything Bethesda have released since Morrowind.
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>>743286574
It started with Skyrim being too successful.

If you actually follow the development you'll find out the game was half-finished and rushed out, which is why so many storylines are nonsensical, short, lead nowhere, or all of the above. And they were rewarded for it.
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>>743239424
I need Bethesda to lose
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>>743287009
>which is why so many storylines are nonsensical, lead nowhere, or all of the above.
Name one.
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>>743236784
Nu/v/ is retarded enough to believe it
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>>743287009
A lot of other people and I
Give Skyrim more leeway because it was a ps3 game with a very short devlopment cycle

But fallout4 released ps4 in a State and quality compareable to those Ue4 games that remain in Early access for 5 years
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>>743239424
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>>743284076
>>sales as your only metric
the user score was lower than the metacritic
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>>743287252
She looks... inflatable.
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>>743287216
The Mage Guild questline. It's about 1/3 done.
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>>743287481
Not really? Its short, but the story is complete with a clear beginning, middle, and end.
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>>743239424
No one that's still nostalgia tripping over new vegas...
1. Played those
2. Remembers Obsidian ever even made games since NV
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>>743236784
Same situation as From and Bluepoint
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>>743252465
Didnt know that todd and emil were advisors, always thought the tv show just had stupid writing and the new vegas plot handling was just incompetent writers, after hearing about the powerpoint thing bethesda made oblivion sit through i'm 100% convince they just wanted to ruined new vegas lore
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>>743287686
Obsidian made bunch of good to decent games after NV
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I hope Emil never touches fallout again he is the problem with how terrible the writing is, and Todd too for enabling him
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>>743252465
The show was set on the west coast because that's were hollywood is you sperg
>You know the show were Todd and Emil were present as advisors?
No shit, Zenimax wanted people to advise the Amazon staff.
Black Isle were also paid advisors during Fallout 3s development

>>743287772
such as?
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>>743287825
South Park Stick of Truth
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>>743238191
Yep. Todd got lucky to get where he is today. He's a poor game dev and only rose through the ranks due to a slow exodus of staff in the earlier days when Morrowind was going to be the difference between Bethesda going out or staying in business.
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>>743239424
Fallout 4's writing was mostly ass, and Starfield was completely ass. Obsidian might not be the same Obsidian, but if they're going to shit out garbage, I'd rather it come in the next 5 years, than Bethesda taking 10 years for their own flavor of garbage.
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>>743282917
There's no shame in losing to a masterpiece like Kingdom Come: Deliverance. I wouldn't mind if they made another elder scrolls or fallout game but sadly they're realism fags that don't want to do fantasy.

Also, my point wasn't that Starfield is good but that Obsidian is such a failure of a company that they even get absolutely destroyed Starfield.
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>>743283783
You haven't posted any numbers. I don't know where this absolute cope comes from.
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>>743256783
That's your opinion, not a statement of fact no matter what you tell yourself, buddy.
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>>743287868
Todd was literally the project lead on Morrowind and made that game what it is, saving Bethesda in the process you tard.
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>>743283020
He's just a contrarian incel who hates everything. Fairly common around these parts.
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Bethesda has nothing.
Also I don't know what country Skyrim is, but all its women are ugly as fuck. So I instinctively don't like Bethesda.
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>>743239424
Because NV was good and FO3 and FO4 were shit. Todd needs to go fuck himself because he can't make a good game worth a shit.
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Meanwhile Obsidian had Dungeon Siege 3.
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>>743288168
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>>743287825
Pentiment
Grounded
POE

Decent
Avowed
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>>743287979
Starfield is dogshit
As simple as that
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>>743288278
>Avowed
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>>743288187
>look at this person's opinion
I don't give a shit.
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>>743288187
>Appeal to bandwagon and authority
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>>743260487
Saarfield is only getting played because of that fuckhuge Star Wars mod
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>>743288329
Play it faggot instead of listening to some basedtuber tell you why it's le bad
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>>743237023
A fallout 3 "remaster" will not do that good.
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>>743236784
>obsidian wanted to make new fallout
>bethesda said no
understandable.
have you seen what obsidian has been outputting lately? at least 76 they have somewhat stable optics now.
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>>743239424
it's XBOX last shot/final coin/last opportunity.
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>>743288514
Have you seen what Bethesda has put out? Mostly nothing.
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>>743236784
I think some of you really overestimate what Todd cares about.
Obsidian doesn't make much money, but they do have a sort of very fanatical niche fanbase.
Bethesda doesn't put out as interesting a story, but they make a lot of money and get more success.
Do you honestly think Todd is a big story guy, and jealous of better writing? He's a suit.
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>>743288514
It wasn't "Obsidian wanted to make a new fallout" it was them pitching an idea to Bethesda that didn't fit in any studios timeline. It was 2010, Obsidian was still working on Alpha Protocol, Skyrim would release in less than a year and Fallout 4 was in pre-production.

Nu /v/ is dumb enough to believe anything in a twitter screenshot
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>>743288415
I think it's le bad because they had the LGBT fungus face people personally
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>>743288514
>at least 76 they have somewhat stable optics now.
lmao if you only knew what a fucking shitshow has developed in 76 in the last six months. They had to release a public statement about how dogshit the monetization got and half the layoffs at Bethesda were at the 76 studio, boyo. They're fucked.
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>>743288829
>76 studio
I hope Obsidian can make use of the vast amount of game assets accumulated through Fallout 76’s updates over the past eight years.
Most of the game models can be used as-is, rather than reinventing the wheel.
This would significantly speed up game development.
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>>743238191
don't forget the fart-huffing writers who fundamentaly do not understand that video games aren't linear story vehicles
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If obsidian fucks up fallout, will it be given to a new studio or back to bethesda? or just outright killed
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>>743288829
Its all because they hired some jew from EA to be in charge of the game's monetization, what a stupid decision
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>>743289108
>If obsidian fucks up fallout, will it be given to a new studio or back to bethesda?
inXile
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>>743239424
Because Bethesda will either rape it into the ground even harder or continue to sit on their asses and do nothing with it till the heat death of the universe.

Obsidian making Fallout has two outcomes. Either it will be decent/good and everyone will shit on Todd, Emil and Bethesda or it will be hot garbage and will nuke any credibility Obsidian has even in the eyes of diehard fans and lead to mass lay offs in there. Either way is a win scenario for us
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>>743288318
And somehow everything Obsidian made is still worse than Starfield

>>743288402
Yeah, no shit Sherlock. Moddability is one of the main feature of Bethesda games. Why do you think star wars fans are modding Starfield instead of another star wars game?
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>>743289090
Obsidian had a third of their studio layed off
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>>743289220
People playing Saarfield because of a mod is not the same thing as people playing it for the content that Todd and his buddies created.
Bethesda itself is trash and Obsidian has a higher chance of producing a fun FO game than they do.
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Do you think any Xboxowned game dev will get in Asha's pants?
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>>743289189
Wasteland 3 was good, which is much better than Outer Worlds (what Sawyer's Fallout project was repurposed as).
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uhhh, I'm going to be honest famlam, they are both in deep shit.

Obsidian obployees had some leaks during Awoved development, the topic they disclosed are not of interest, what picked my interest was statements like
>This drama is the last thing we need right now!
Suggesting upper Xbox management had been on their tails for a while, even before the massive layoffs.
Also, I bet you neary everybody who worked on New Vegas moved elsewhere, out of that rat hole.

And Bethesda? Oh boy they cost Microsoft over 70 billion dollars or something crazy like that.
They are in even deeper shit than Obsidian.

JRPGs won...
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>>743289090
I've played 76 for 5 years and own probably 60% of the stuff they've ever released, if I see another asset flip I will chimp out. They 100% need to develop assets that aren't based on Fallout 4's design language/aesthetic choices.
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What do I even care, new game would be for children anyways.
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>>743289418
>Bethesda? Oh boy they cost Microsoft over 70 billion dollars or something
How is that even remotely possible?
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>>743289142
Kali fired his ass and his gay bean minion.
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>>743240568
>>743239424
Play Pentiment.
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>>743289578
Ooops, it was only 7,5 billion. But that's still a lot.
I don't think Starfield managed to recoup that investment.
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>>743240831
Cain and Boyarsky worked on the outer worlds, didn't they? Didn't prevent the game from being dogturd
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>>743289649
They publicly stated all the acquisitions were a loss.
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>>743289635
did he really get fired? that would be good news
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>>743289535
no you would get another broken fallout 4 toilet with a new colour
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>>743236784
I always treated it as a meme based on a funny trend but when it's just straight forward like this it's stops being a meme and it becomes a sad reality.
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>>743290005
Yes. https://x.com/Jmclean42/status/2074167744141160733
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>>743239424
The shills are out of control, they don't even know what they are saying anymore.
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>>743290070
thank god, maybe fallout 76 will heal abit from this cant believe this guy got so many comments feeling sorry for him still lol
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Some Chud prince from Saudi Arabia purchased EA just to layoff all the Troons from Bioware.
Obsidian is getting purged.
Bethesda is getting amputated.

The apocalypse is here...
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>>743239424
FALLOUT MUST DIE
OBSIDIAN WILL KILL IT
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>>743290205
Once Fallout dies, the elder scrolls will be the last King standing...
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>>743289235
>Obsidian had a third of their studio layed off
The layoffs mainly affected the transgender team working on *Avowed 2*.
Xbox has asked Bethesda’s team to help Obsidian develop the new *Fallout*.
It’s very likely that the F76 team will be assigned to work for Obsidian.
Asset reuse is inevitable.
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bros i know i shouldnt but im excited about this new obsidian fallout
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>>743290161
>layoff all the Troons from Bioware.
Was there anyone left afterwards?
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>>743290161
>Some Chud prince from Saudi Arabia purchased EA just to layoff all the Troons from Bioware.
good
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The only way it can be good is if its isometric and turn based. Retvrn to tradition.

But I think we all know its going to be shooter sloppa
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>>743290594
The best u can hope for is that asha makes inxile work on a fallout crpg after they ship clockwork next year.
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>>743290513
Not sure.
Apparently there is still 1 project left, so there is some sort of barebones crew working on that for now.
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>>743290594
>The only way it can be good is if its isometric and turn based. Retvrn to tradition.
Let inXile remake F1 and F2
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>>743290641
>Clockwork
Why the fuck is that more shooter slop as well? Are these devs retarded? BG3 has offered a golden opportunity for quality isometrics to gain traction
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>>743289296
>content that Todd and his buddies created.
You mean content like modding support?
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>>743290707
>Why the fuck is that more shooter slop as well?
That's because FPS games are more profitable,players love shooting.
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>>743239424
Go play Fallout 4 and Starfield. Guess you can count Fallout 76 too, the game where the players themselves pretended to be npcs cause of how barebones and empty it was.
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>>743290762
Those are tools, not actual gaming content. Though it is nice that Bethesda makes it available.
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>>743290295
>It’s very likely that the F76 team will be assigned to work for Obsidian.
For the love of God, no, please, they're talentless
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>>743290790
Ah yes, truly games such as Outer Worlds and Awooowed were such cash cows
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>>743290790
pretty sure BG3 sold well too
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>>743289382
>Outer Worlds (what Sawyer's Fallout project was repurposed as)
Do you have any confirmation of that? First time i hear that about TOW.
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>>743290995
>For the love of God, no, please, they're talentless
This group of people will become wage slaves.
They’re responsible for the menial tasks like modeling, map design, and the combat system.
Obsidian, on the other hand, is in charge of the game’s most important aspects: mission design and writing.
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>>743291049
>BG3
That's not enough.
f76 probably makes even more money from microtransactions.
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>>743289823
>They publicly stated all the acquisitions were a loss.
Of course they were a loss. Acquisitions like that are mainly made for IP rights, they are supposed to generate revenue down the line. Except this time the line got too long, it seems.
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>>743291101
Bethesda Austin doesn't even design their own maps, there's a Britfag contract studio that does that. I don't know what Bethesda Austin does besides design new hats and jack off all day
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>>743291176
o-ok daddy todd, i will release more update for 76
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>>743291101
>They’re responsible for the menial tasks like modeling, map design, and the combat system.
If these tasks are so menial and unimportant, what's the problem with them being made by jeets?
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>>743291204
Now they have to work as slaves.
Because Microsoft canceled their outsourcing contract.
LOL
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>>743291241
Shut the fuck up
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>>743291234
>made by jeets?
The processing time for H-1B visas is too slow.
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Obsidian has released like 10 pieces of shit since Troon Vegas and were now in the "Star Wars was saved in the edit" phase of discourse where everyone yet again hypes these retards up before getting mad when they under deliver.
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>>743291339
pentiment was good, the friendslop game they made was also pretty good
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>>743290686
You mean the guys who dropped Wasteland 4 and spent 7 years developing a quirky reddit steam punk shooter instead? How about no?
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>>743291409
Nah, Clockwork looks pretty interesting. Creating a new IP is a good thing.
But if the game flops, inXile will become just another studio stuck making nothing but Fallout.
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>>743290707
Because fps more normie therefore it has a high chance of it succeeding
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>>743291409
It's wasteland 3 but fps and in a steampunk setting. If you fucked with wasteland 3 then there's a decent chance you'll like clockwork
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>>743291913
Am I the only one that kind of wants to see inxile make a spin off elder scrolls single player game?
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>>743291234
Jeets will fuck up even simple tasks
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>>743292073
Xbox already has the terrible *Avowed* and *Fable*.
I don't believe Indian moms would approve of a new medieval fantasy RPG project...
That would definitely not make any money.
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>>743292275
Its so over for us fantasy rpg bros... it's all unclear wasteland from here on out.
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>>743292605
Go play the Gothic 1 Remake.
That game looks pretty good.
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>>743292706
Recommending remakes?, yeah it's over.
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>>743292909
All right, all right.
The Blood of Dawnwalker looks fantastic,it’s a brand-new RPG created by a group of former CDPR employees.
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>>743293246
Yeah I've had my eyes on this one. Could be kino or it could be mid euro jank. Gonna wait and see for reviews.
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>>743236784
never trust a dwarf
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>>743293582
I’ve watched the demo review video.
This game is basically New Vegas with a time management system added.
Players have only 30 days to save their families; there’s a lot to do, but there’s never enough time.
You’ll have to skip a lot of content.
It sounds interesting.
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>>743237023
God I hate Zenimax.
If I could throw one gaming company into the wood chipper feet first
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>>743285269
I didn’t say he was fired for that, retard. I said Sawyer immediately jumped to throw Avellone under the bus when it happened. Nice obvious obfuscation attempt though. Learn to read next time.
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>>743285513
>implying reality isn't full of sex obsessed losers
nigger what
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>>743293884
>dwarf
Todd is a lying goblin.
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>>743288145
>doesn't even try to argue the points and goes straight to le ebil incel card
I feel bad for the people who have to put up with your insufferable ass irl.
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>>743236784
>no TES6
>obsidian made avowed, fallout new vegas 2 will be woke slop
>posted charlie kirk is a facist on their twitter with indian jones

these people are not bethesda or obsidian they are weird leftoid libtard trannys
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>>743239424
The Honda CRV might not be the most upscale car on the market, but everyone driving one is leagues ahead than the people driving a Nissan or Hyundai
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I'm just happy to see Bethesda and their cocksleeves crying over this.
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>>743291092
Avellone said it was a fallout game and beth threw a fit and then it became a fallout game.
That anon is lying.
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>>743298202
What the fuck are you even fucking talking about?
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>>743298375
see >>743236784
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>>743297575
>obsidian made avowed, fallout new vegas 2 will be woke slop
the core team and people who made big decisions while working on fnv are still there. it's true that they have a bunch of trannies and woketards on the team, and if given the opportunity to create something original they will always go for something extremely pozzed. but the thing with fallout is that there are a lot of limitations and lore they can't just push trannies into the game and not expect backlash, so even the worst woke motherfucker on the team would have to shut the fuck up and do the job. the alternative is they still decide to make it woke and gay on purpose, like bioware with veilguard but that will lead to studio closure and them getting fired. why would they do this?
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>>743298512
>why would they do this?
Why did Bioware do it with Veilguard?
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>>743298406
The Outer Worlds is not similar to Fallout at all and you are delusional.
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>>743239424
retards forgot OE hasn't released a good game in the last 16 years.
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>>743298512
>the alternative is they still decide to make it woke and gay on purpose, like bioware with veilguard but that will lead to studio closure and them getting fired. why would they do this?
you can ask the same of every other studio that did this and died, they dont care about gaming, they are here to push a political agenda and dont care if they studio they tumoured their way into dies for it. you really underestimate how scummy these people are they are the definition of it
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>>743298568
>games cannot change direction during development
shill detected
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>>743239424
they weren't even BAD games, just mediocre in their own right. Avowed had Better Than Skyrim™ combat but only slightly. It was decently fun but couldn't carry the game, especially with that nothingburger writing.

Outer Worlds was another JUST OKAY tier game, the writing was fun at times and the gameplay was pretty simple to the point of monotony. I think they can make a good fallout if they get everyone on board.
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>>743298568
The first planet was. Not thematically obviously, but gameplay wise.
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>>743298625
Which puts them in the exact same position as Bethesda.
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>>743298553
I really don't know what the fuck they were thinking. as a fan of origins, I was disappointed and sad. I know /v-pol/ celebrated veilguard flop and will do the same if new vegas 2 ends up pozzed but they don't really care about video games, they just come here for shitposting and to rage bait.
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People still deny this?
The TV show pulled the same move as The Last Jedi and said "yeah nothing you were speculating about from that other thing you liked matters anymore, deal with it."
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>>743239424
Supposedly the Poo is outting Josh Sawyer at the helm (kinda cucky, but a gun autist in all the good ways when it comes to vidya) but otherwise the entire dev team is being replaced.
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>>743298643
blackrock and ESG gave them incentive to push this shit. how realistic is this in 2026 and going forward?
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>>743298776
Copium is one of the strongest narcotics...
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>>743298710
>we swapped a turd studio for another turd studio
some batshit logic right there
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>>743298876
all I care about is that it makes bethesda and their cocksleeves very, very upset
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>>743239424
because there is nothing to rape about Fallout it's a raped franchise for almost 2 decades, it can only go up at this point
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>>743298929
>it can only go up at this point
this
getting fallout out of bethesda's hands is the best thing that could have happened
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>>743239424
Purely out of spite against Todd even though it'll backfire and be worse than starfield and vindicate him.
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>>743298929
This. Avellone got what he wanted through the TV show; the NCR is obliterated.
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>>743298796
Who says anyone new is being hired?
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>>743298776
The TV show Last Jedi's its own first season because the writers are subhuman retards who should be shot dead
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>>743298920
you are so valid queen
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>>743299078
much unlike bethesda's fallout, eh? hahahahahahahaha
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>>743298813
they have near infinite pools of funding, if they are still around then it will be woke, if microsoft owns you there is a high chance it will be woke, DEI is in their mandate for making games

so regardless of how many libtards, trannys, feminists and leftoids they have it will be forced into their games

the go woke go broke is real the studios being killed is proof of that
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They should just make Van Buren all over again lol.

Fuck the Bethesda timeline.
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>>743239424
I take it you prefer Bethesda to make it
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>>743299372
>If you don't Obsidian to make it then you must want Bethesda to make it!
take your meds you insane tranny.
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>>743299447
He's completely in the right to make that assumption, Bethesdrones have been making threads crying about New Vegas every day since it came out in 2010.
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>>743299264
Sorry but the legions of golems cant understand isometric games so it wont sell.
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>>743299207
we'll see about that. asha is cleaning up the swamp and firing woke retards across studios, putting new people in charge of projects, and even getting rid of studios that are beyond repair. we'll soon see what their incentives are with new leadership and if the philosophy to game making has changed. the difference between me and most of you crusaders is that I would be happy with new vegas 2 being kino and having fun gameplay while the only thing that would make you happy is if the game ends up being woke and failing. If phil were still in charge and this project started during the biden years and peak ESG cancer I would be the first to write it off.
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>>743299616
Just ape Baldur's Gate 3.
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>>743299539
nah that is some looney troon leaps in logic.
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>>743299028
Not hired, but shuffled from other studios, and some literally who on yt said it
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>>743299775
Nah it's perfectly sound, you're just upset about Obsidian.
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>>743299659
retard you think we enjoy the games we love being woke slop? we enjoy the people who destroyed what we enjoy getting rekt by getting fired along with their studio it should be a siren across the gaming industry but these dumb fucks dont learn, they need to be culled and i will laugh at all of them when they die regardless whether or not it triggers you faggot
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why do toddfags love the word tranny so much?
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>>743299870
Indians think that "tranny" is the ultimate own.
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>>743299998
>>743300001
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>>743299827
I don't want this to turn into a self-fulfilling prophecy. american video game industry is in a terrible state right now, they need a total reset, and asha is doing this. I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and a chance to make a fun fallout role playing game. the first trailer will tell us how serious they are.
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>>743300196
lmao

https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/games/articles/2024/03/xbox-releases-gaming-for-everyone-product-inclusion-framework-for-game-developers/

https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/games/resources/productinclusion/representation/

never trust corpo's
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>>743299818
don't care it's just very funny that ill trannies default to Bethesda when someone points out Obsidian has also made bad/mediocre games for a long ass time.

>He don't like Obsidian so he must like Bethesda
that is some fucked in the head thinking
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>>743292605
Don't worry
i got you dwag
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>>743300353
>open world
frigg off
>but new vegas is open world
and it suffers for it
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>>743293246
>Looks fantastic
>Looks
I can't see shit
everything is so fucking dark
how didn't anyone flag that shit early on
this game to see
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>>743299694
Whoever brings up satans game in this house will taste my shoe
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Okay shut the fuck. The important question is: Will it still use gamebryo?
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>>743300425
Making a linear Bethesda style RPG would be a waste of resources
The whole experience is about sidetracking the main quest and getting into some goofy shenanigans on the side
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>>743300539
No, Unreal.

>>743300540
>doesn't know what hubs are
yikes
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>>743300539
Last Bethesda/adjacent game to use Gamebryo was NV back in 2010.
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>>743300539
I am fraid it won't
because for that they'll need to have beth people working along side obsidian but beth is already working on TES6
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>>743300592
That cool thing on the side of the tire? What does that have to do with RPGs?
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>>743300351
Obsidian are famous for killing the Dungeon Siege series. They are the definition gem in a pile of crap.
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>>743300601
We already know from Schrier's report that Bethesda is working alongside Obsidian for the new Fallout project.
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>>743300601
Welp, fuck mod support then I guess. That sucks ass. Even if the game ends up being as good as NV that just cut its lifespan by 90%.
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>>743300592
>unreal
please god no fucking stop it already I hate this timeline
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>>743300682
NV is only as good as it is because autistic people were able to mod it so heavily and fix the hundreds of mistakes made by the Obsidian developers and coders. Modders even had to fix JSawyer's own mod because it was a clusterfuck.
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>>743300601
why do you think bethesda won't be working alongside them? Who said that they won't?
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>>743300670
sucks cause dungeon siege 1 and 2 were a fun part of my childhood. 3 came out and it was shit and now dungeon siege is perma dead.
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>>743300860
It was already stated directly by Schreir's sources that Bethesda is getting tagged in on developing this. Who and where we don't know. It might not be the Rockville office. The Montreal and Austin offices don't have a lot on their plate.
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>>743288558
doesn't matter, still sell millons. can't say the same about flopsidian.
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Cant wait for the trainwreck, after all agenda 2030 is in full force now.
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>>743239424
Ironically I think the trannies and lefties might be more fucking respectful to the lore than wannabe chess chad Todd who has been seething ever since New Vegas came out and turned the game into a shooting gallery. Probably not they might be way worse though I do find some karmic justice that years of Todd silently shitting on Obsidian and not giving them another shot at a Fallout spin off absolutely hillarious.
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>>743236784
>oh my heck obsidian gets to make fallout again?
>confirmed gotykino
>no I never played outer worlds
>no I never played outer worlds 2
anyone who thinks this is a good thing is in for a very rude awakening when trailers and news starts to come out
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>>743302556
>Ironically I think the trannies and lefties might be more fucking respectful to the lore
They aren't. For example, New Vegas shipped with Legion NPCs, except for Vulpes, having neutral karma. JSawyer (and its forks) have made Legion NPCs all have evil karma. Sawyer has posted his support for New Vegas "cracking eggs", which is one of the biggest Discord astroturfing agendas ever conceived in an attempt to ruin the legacy of a video game's narrative. A slew of mods have been annihilated on Nexus for not conforming to the transsexual agenda.

My point is, there is no hope, and only fools are huffing copium right now. NV2 will be the same as VTMB2. I genuinely believe that I'm the only person alive who understands New Vegas is as good as it is in spite of Obsidian making it in 18 months.
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>>743301180
Dungeon siege 2 really good sequel. Played to the previous games strengths while fixing some of the hassle.
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>>743303014
I do a legion run every five years to remind myself of how much they suck at game dev.
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>>743300539
>>743300749
it will 100% use the creation engine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB-YzZ4D09Q
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>>743239424
The question that broke /v/.
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I think New Vegas was good because it had a lot of Van Buren documentation sitting in the back of filing cabinets and those dudes were happy to dust that shit off and finally put them in a game.
Judging from how modern Obsidian is and all those dudes are gone i wouldn't expect anything from a NV2. Also for your consideration they'll have to be running shit by Bozos' writers from the shitty tv series.
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>>743303829
I don't think that's proof but I hope to god they use CE. No matter what niggers say about it, it's a soulful engine that is very easy to make mods for that are super in depth.
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>>743301993
Good. I think this might honestly end up being something as special as NV.
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FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
AND ALL THAT IS HOLY
SET IT IN MARICOPA COUNTY, ARIZONA
OR HARRIS COUNTY, TEXAS
OR COOK COUNTY, ILLINOIS

PLEASE
I BEG YOU
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>>743254556
Bethesda absolutely padded their portfolio using 76 to tantalize Microsoft into buying them and had Starfield on deck as a single player game that was "mostly ready" Bethesda scammed Microsoft into buying them so all the execs would get to retire with nice fat pensions. The sooner you understand this the more Bethesdas complete lack of effort in making games makes sense
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>>743306224
>complete lack of effort in making games
I love seeing this because its the most hilarious non argument ever made.
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>>743289189
Wasteland 3 tonally was pretty shit but I digress and prefer 2 instead.
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>>743305563
Fallout 5 will take place in New York.
The story themes are stock trading and anti-capitalism.
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>>743239424
The sooner er you learn all these faggot want to do is complain and consume the better anon, they are but pigs rolling in mud and shit.
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>>743306812
Dagoth Ur more like DOGSHIT TURD LMAOOO
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>>743306315
>Non argument
Okay so were supposed to sit here and pretend that Bethesda had a slew of first party releases between Fallout 4 and now?
>76
Asset flip made by B team
>Starfield
The tech demo for TESVI
>Oblivion Remaster
Lol. UE5 cash grab

Bethesda has one of the biggest normie fan bases ever and has time and time again continually sat on their IPs and refused to print money. I don't know how one defends this? Skyrim has released anywhere from 8 to 17 times across 10 platforms since 2011. Bethesda hasn't recieved enough shit for how fucking lazy they are.
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>>743307194
>Asset flip made by B team
This is incorrect. Bethesda Maryland was the primary dev behind the game's initial release. Bethesda Austin only took over after the game's initial development.
>Okay so were supposed to sit here and pretend that Bethesda had a slew of first party releases between Fallout 4 and now?
Well, for first party
-Fallout 4: 2015
-Fallout Shelter 2015
-Fallout 76: 2018
-TES Blades: 2020
-Starfield: 2023
-TES Castles: 2024
-Oblivion Remaster: 2025
We also know they're working on a Fallout 3 remaster, and TES 6.
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>>743236784
Todd or his boss was trying to snuff out the Fallout fans (and TES?)

Thank you based Asha.
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>>743239424
People want to see Todd hurt because he is a white man that hasn't openly stated he supports the leftist agenda. Also Starfield was boring.
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>>743307462
>fart gaas and mobile slop
Grim, why the hell did they waste time doing this crap in-house instead of just outsourcing to any of the gazillion cheap mobile devs around the world?
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>>743307742
todd's dream game has hordes of niggers in space, anon.
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>>743236784
What's up with the insane Obsidian shilling? Nobody except actual xbox marketers could possibly be excited for a game by one of the wokest studios in existence.
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>>743308230
Bethesda has always been a popular target, and now its easy to say that Obsidian is "based" since Asha Sharma "took" Fallout and "gave" it to Obsidian, so that means BETHESDA BAD!
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>>743307462
>Bethesda made mobile games in house instead of making another mainline game or spin off of one of their IPs
This is not the win you think it is.
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>>743307462
>Bethesda making another remaster of one of their titles
Again this just adds to the argument that Bethesda will do anything except come up with new titles for their IPs.
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>>743289645
I did.
It was shit outside of artstyle.
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>>743240831
>sawy*rs
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>>743310971
horrific taste
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>>743310971
>Do I fit in yet guys?

Go back faggot.
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>>743310971
Retarded election tourist
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>>743236784
Todd has never released a compelling game. allthe TES games suck ass and are only popular because of modding, not because of the actual games.
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>>743308660
Both studios seem retarded to me
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>>743236784
If Fallout 4 was the death of the IP with its le whacky quirk chungus humor then the show was the nail in the coffin.
In other words, it's not like Bethesda was ever going to do any better than whatever Obsidian shits out in a few years.
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>>743288501
Yes it fucking will. Look at Oblivion Remaster. People will eat it up because muh childhood nostalgia.
>>
I don't really care, Outer Worlds was bland and boring garbage, I don't believe for a second anything remotely close to FONV could be released today.
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>>743236784
They know it's their last chance, but the company is so corroded by woke shit & infested by (((progressive policies))) that there's nobody there who even remembers what a good, soulful game looks like, nevermind create it.
We're getting Avowed 2.
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>>743318315
>hates on qualityslop

you're a dumb faggot, you know that?
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>>743318667
Dear god stop yapping already
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>>743288501
It'll capitalize on the show's popularity since it'll be the first game out after it sadly.
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>>743306963
Okay apoo



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