I just got past the part where I went into the mansion and found who sent the notes to Yohnah, and I read online that Part 2 comes after this.What things should I do before starting "Part 2"? Should I get every weapon?And when does this game get good?
>>743267186Do some quests
>>743267186Story is about to hit kino overdrive. The gameplay is always mid
Bump
>>743267186When you replay it and do the same chores and fetch quests for the fifth time.
>>743267186Nothing, just go straight to part 2.
>>743267186The game's already good. It got good at the desert temple. No weapons are missable, any weapons not obtained in act 1 can be bought in act 2. Also, be sure to fully stock up on healing items and save your game as soon as you go back to the village. Shit goes down shortly after. Thank me later.
>>743267186I just downloaded a save which completed all of the side quests right there, I really didn't want to burn out running back and forth doing nonsense I have other stuff to play than sit for 10 hours hitting lizards or whatever it wanted me to do.
>>743267186When did this game come out? I've never heard of it. I only know automata and the nier for 360.
>>743270129>skipping "A Dog Astray">skipping "The Ballad of the Twins"ishygddt
Post the moment you knew this game was kino incarnate> Really. Don’t look back.
>>743267186>when does this game get goodwhen you walk out your house and hear devola sing
>>743270579did those at least just fetch stuff I couldn't be bother with
I can’t finish this game.Any time I open it I just start tearing up because my ex introduced it to me and I still fucking miss her 4 years later.Same with automata but atleast I finished that before
>>743270731The dog one is just running back and forth a couple of times on the northern plains, takes 5 minutes. The ballad one is an absolute must because of the kino scene you're rewarded with. Plus, the banter between Nier and Weiss while you're running the errand is priceless. Literally only involves farming five rat tails (keep reentering the outside of the junk heap) and five lizard tails (keep reentering the area with the scaffolding that leads upward to the junk heap). This quest in particular is, again, an absolute must. You may as well quit playing the game now if you don't want to do it, as you're clearly not interested in lore.
>>743270579I’ve done a whole entire 2 side quests. How do I activate these?
>>743270895Yeah I did the dog the dog was dead, I did a little of ballad and I just looked up what I missed and it doesn't seem important.
>>743271420Yeah... Just quit playing the game now.
>>743271464The game is ok, I was more engaged with automata, I probably would enjoy the original version more desu
>>743270858Howd you guys break up?
>>743272148She said she fell out of love with me. I always kinda knew it would come one day. It was too good to be true. She was a hot skinny pale tomboy with a fat ass and loved being dominant in bed. She was also BPD and would have meltdowns almost every day. Atleast I won’t die a virgin I guess, and I know what it’s like to have a girl sit on my face
>>743272307I am so sorry for you.
>>743272454Thanks anon
>>743272307Sorry to hear, anon. Was her name Stephanie, and is she in the Chicago area?
>>743272562Nope her name was Adyson. I called her Ady. She was paranoid schizo though and has changed her name 3 times, probably has a new one by now
>>743272695You dodged a bullet.
I wish Kaine could be my gf. How do I find a girl like Kaine?
>>743272886Grindr
>>743272307GIWTWM
>>743267186Hope you like doing the same shit over and over and over.Automata is a much better game.
>Literally all the characters suck>Kaine seems somewhat interesting>NOPE, she’s dead now>gameplay consists of right clicking and left clicking enemies, running through empty boring fields>literal mind numbing quests (even the main ones)>extremely generic storyI just got to act 2, where it’s supposed to get “good”, but it still fucking sucks. Why should I continue to play this game?
>>743278552If you don’t like the characters already then I’m sorry to say you’re already filtered
>>743270636I always already sold just hanging around the village listening to Devola singBut the real megakino moment was you think we have the luxury to stop?
>>743278552>Kaine seems somewhat interesting>NOPE, she’s dead nowKeep playing anon
>>743278797>unironically would just sit next to her singing for a few minutes every time I was back at the villageGenuinely soothing to listen to that
>>743278728What am I supposed to like about the characters? >Nier: an extremely bland character who does the “moral thing” at all times, doesn’t do anything inherently flawed or wrong, and isn’t interesting whatsoever>Emil: just a boring child who can’t even see, doesn’t add anything of value to the story, and really only serves as a purpose of Kaine getting killed>Weiss: A fucking talking book who constantly makes quippy remarks and puts himself on a pedestal (uninteresting character)Kaine seems interesting but they didn’t do anything with her character. Instead, they literally killed her LMAO. Fuck this game. I don’t understand why it’s so beloved.
>>743278942The game is very back loaded. The stuff that makes the characters shine is still coming, >>743278728 is baiting please ignore himNier never really gets very special because he's sort of a generic protagonist trope by design, but the others have a lot going on by the end.
>>743278942>> Nier: an extremely bland character who does the “moral thing” at all times, doesn’t do anything inherently flawed or wrong, and isn’t interesting whatsoever>sweet summer child….
>>743278942Kaine isn't dead, she's frozen in statis
>>743279024>Nier never really gets very special because he's sort of a generic protagonist trope by designNier is interesting because despite being surrounded by allies who are all changing for the better, his psyche takes a turn for the worse and he gets extreme tunnel-vision. It's like if Griffith was the main character of Berserk, his mental downfall is what makes him interesting.
>>743278942>nier>doesn’t do anything inherently flawed or wrong Keep playing
Reminder that the shadow lord put literal babies on the front line.
>>743279252Would you say Nier is similar to Berserk? Berserk is my favorite piece of media ever, but I cannot get into this game for some reason
>>743270636>but this conversation never happens>the girl disappears>the boy dies aloneI know it’s technically from drakengard but still
>>743279437Very much. Wait and see Nier's psyche deteriorate, especially toward the end where he's presented with the truth but either is in outright denial or simply doesn't care.
Did Nier deserve to be labeled as the one who destroyed the world and ended humanity? it’s not like he really knew what he was doing
>>743267186>And when does this game get good?if you've gotten this far and aren't enjoying it, stop playing. you won't enjoy any of what follows.
>>743278942>all of thatKeep. Playing.
>>743279516> sees with his own eyes that the shadow lord is him>he just shakes his head and doesn’t care
>>743279556>it’s not like he really knew what he was doingHe denied the truth that was presented to him.He doomed the world by cutting off the overseers who created every new generation of replicants, then the book needed to rejoin all remaining replicants to their gestalts, and finally the man who did his best to keep remaining gestalts from relapsing. He did everything wrong, but at the same time, he was a 21-year-old / 44-year-old man being told that everything he ever knew was a lie.
Replicant >>> Automata I love my wife Kainé
>>743279516It’s funny that Nier and 9S basically have the same ark but 9S dialed it up to 11 I honestly thought 9S’ was better and more believable as to why he went insane. And learning how much he truly hated 2B while simultaneously loving her as the only true connection in his life gave the story a whole new layer
>>743279670I know the exact moment in the cutscene you're talking about and I loved it.
>>743267186Uninstall it. It doesn’t get good.
>>743267186>And when does this game get good?It doesn't
>these games have some of the most kino writing in the whole industry>no one to discuss it with because normies all dismiss these games as coomer slop and majority of not normies don’t even play the game but just jerk it to 2BSuffering
>>743280397They probably just think it's over after seeing Ending A. Sad!!
>>743280506That, or they completely misunderstand the basic ideas being presented in the story, like with automata’s final fight being dismissed as “melodramatic” because “lmao why didn’t A2 just tell 9S she had the coof” that I see repeated everywhere.There’s too many filters for this game at every stage it’s impossible to find good discussion
>>743280397>no one to discuss it with becauseSo like all Nier threads. Almost like the games aren't good or something.
>>743280693Thanks for proving my point filtered faggot lmao
>>743279516I think it's an issue of not really caring. What's compelling about the game to me is the "this is all I know and it's my existence, so all I can do is keep fighting for it" thing. Imagine if you were told you aren't a "real" human and everyone you know and love, everything you've ever experienced, it's all not real? And that you should just sacrifice yourself for the real humans? Would you be able to do it?
>>743280693Like clockwork...
>>743280605>like with automata’s final fight being dismissed as “melodramatic” because “lmao why didn’t A2 just tell 9S she had the coof” that I see repeated everywhere.What is the counter to this?I loved Nier but I didn't really get much out of Automata, ultimately I enjoyed it but it was only after a second playthrough and reading tons of external story stuff which I feel the game needs to function way more than the original Nier did.
>>743280883Yeah, I think I'd either snap like 9S or just not care like Nier. Also I just thought of this, Since the Replicants developed sentience, if they were rejoined with their Gestalts, would it be like the movie Get Out where they're still forced to just watch everything for the remainder of their life, from the "sunken place"? That would add a whole new layer to the fucked-upness that the twins' endgame.
I'm currently playing Gravity Rush and I'm surprised to see how many similarities are shared between these games. Yet I don't believe they have any devs in common. Is there any specific reason I'm unaware of?
>>743280919>what is the counter to this?9S wanted to die. He very likely knew why A2 killed 2B but he did not care. He was going to die and take A2 with him because not only is she now the closest thing in the world to 2B but he was also told by the twins to not die alone before he entered the tower, and he was going to fulfill that. It was a glorified suicide more than anything. He literally says that he knows he’s being irrational when he tells his pod to STFU and stop giving him logical advice. He had just learned that his whole life and meaning was all pointless and there was no use for him in the world, along with no joy now that 2B was dead which is why he falls on her sword after he wins the fight.Also this might just be my own theory but I think part of 9S was pissed that A2 got to 2B first. There’s plenty of hints throughout the game that 9S hates 2B as much as he loves her because she is the one killing him and stealing his memories over and over, preventing him from truly being someone other than a soldier >THESE ARE MY MEMORIES! THEY’RE MINE As he is saying that stabbing at that very thing that he blames for stealing everything he loves, he looks down and it’s 2B. I think 9S wanted to kill 2B as well.Hope this helps
>>743281056>that the*of the
>>743281056>Since the Replicants developed sentience, if they were rejoined with their Gestalts, would it be like the movie Get Out where they're still forced to just watch everything for the remainder of their life, from the "sunken place"?Probably, considering gestalt Yonah who's merged into replicant Yonah at the end says "I can hear this girl inside me, she's crying for her brother" or whatever the line isI think no matter how things shook out project gestalt was kind of doomed
The real villain of replicant will always be [Spoiler] Caim for flying through the portal in the first place and triggering everything
>>743281243Yeah, I remember that line. So unlike Get Out, instead of the gestalts just enjoying their shiny new donor body without hearing anything from the replicants, they'd be tormented by the replicants' consciousnesses yearning to be in control again. Kinda fucked. Sort of lose/lose for both parties involved.
>>743281116>Is there any specific reason I'm unaware of?Besides Yoko Taro being as fan of GR nothing. They did give Kat a 2B outfit in 2. They both came out within a few months of each other. 2017 was a great years for games.
>>743281448So it's all coincidence then... Thanks anon >They did give Kat a 2B outfit in 2I know. It suits her lol
>>743281143That helps a lot, yeah.A lot of my problem with the game is that you really just have no way of knowing that until the very end of the last routes, there are some little teeny hints at what 2B's job actually is but I don't think it's enough to piece it together. It's actually the kind of thing I think you're better off being spoiled on
>>743271790I enjoyed the original, papa version with the 60 fps mod.and I enjoyed it quite a bit more than the remake.Idk how to describe it, the original you could see was really good for when it came out and idk any other game really like it. The remake was the original with a slap of new paint on it, with brother, and it doesn't feel as good as automata. I can excuse the original as it is because it came out 16? years ago. Also I like the original songs better. That was a big thing I remember while playing, the new songs were just worse versions of the originals.
>>743281434I would imagine the idea was to merge the consciousness together since at first the replicants were just empty husks that eventually developed personalities and lives like humans. But even still they are literally merging with themselves so it would be reasonable to assume they would be able to come to an agreement.But a big point of the game is how easily people with basically the same goal can be turned against each other through both a language barrier and perceived hostility. It basically happens with every shade boss.Robot: we think it’s hostile because we believe it killed the kid’s brother. Turned out he died in an accident and the shade felt sorry for him but he can’t say that.Dog: noble and trying to make peace with the humans, but the humans believe the wolves to be dangerous so they slaughter them, and the alpha eventually gets fed up at watching his pack die, but he can’t say that. Even his final words are lamenting that the chief said his exact words back to him about revenge for the fallen If anyone fucked up it was Kaine for being able to understand what the shades were saying but not stopping and explaining to everyone that they basically are just fighting for no reason
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>>743282017Either she just didn't care, or she loved Nier enough to not guilt trip him. Maybe both.
>>743270494>When did this game come out?2021.>I've never heard of it. I only know automata and the nier for 360.This is the Nier for 360.More specifically it's a remaster of the japanese version (NieR Replicant) which instead of starring a dad like NieR Gestalt was protagonized by an older brother.
>>743282017Allowing repliNier to make it to the end is the result of a lot of characters fucking up, honestly.
>>743282017>If anyone fucked up it was Kaine for being able to understand what the shades were saying but not stopping and explaining to everyone that they basically are just fighting for no reasonI don't think "for no reason" really describes it. I think she knew there was no solution and both sides are fucked, so it's either "keep fighting for your side and what little life you have left because it's all you know" or "give up and die." You can tell she's battling with that decision though since she wants to die when you first meet her, but by meeting you and Emil she's found a reason to choose what little life is left and may be there.It's essentially fight or flight when you know you're fucked either way, you still have to make the choice
>>743282017Yeah, the replicants were never supposed to develop consciousness. It's basically a glitch in the system
>>743283180>>743282017Another thing to remember is that Kaine knows "the real humans" as the assholes who tortured and killed her and her grandmother, so she might just think they don't deserve to survive in place of the replicants. The replicants have only ever experienced true humans as literal monsters
>>743270636First time hearing this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP4duz43t_A&list=RDFP4duz43t_A&start_radio=1
>>743270636the VN segment
>>743270636First time hearing this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-7RrvmXk3U
This has to be the best OST in all of vidya.
>>743289957Listen to ridge racer
Yoko taro… my fucking goat
>>743278797The absolute black hole of irony kino in popola getting pissy at nier for not stopping, after he BEGGED them to stop first and talk it out but they refused
>>743270636>Perform a lengthy quest just for the ability to listion to Devola and Popola song a duo in the bar.Honestly just walking near the fountain while she's singing was enough for me. The fact the song fades in and out depending on distance and vocals STOPSwhen talking to her. Pure Kino.
I love Nier so much bros...
Could you imagine how scary it’d be chilling in Tokyo and then out of nowhere a giant woman falls from the sky, you hear a long piercing song and see her fighting with a dragon using magic.Then you see the woman fall apart and you start turning into salt
Can someone give me a list of part 2 side quests that are actually worth doing? E.g not too much of a hassle and a good payoff.
>>743297607Yeah but can you imagine Kaine sitting on your face?
Don't open
>>743299986None of them
>>743268735The only real miserable quest is the pink moon flower quest
>>743303981Literally every side quest is the same boring shit
