>>743277307
First day on /v/?

>>743277307
this is a trvke that /v/ is not prepared to handle

I swear everyone here hates video games secretly.

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>>743277307
>redditreddit's reddit adventure

>>743277307
>OP whined, like a faggot

>>743280124
Not just video games. I hate almost everything, except lasagna.

is that a joejoes reference

>>743280164
>redditreddit's 4chan adventure

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what if dio and kira had swapped stands?

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>>743280124
>secretly

>>743277307
WRRYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>743282557
Kira would get smoked since he's just a regular dude and wouldn't be able to hold the time stop for more than a couple seconds. He wouldn't be able to maintain his serial killer routine without Killer Queen's ability to erase evidence either. Dio with Killer Queen is still a massive threat as normal, but Kakyoin might be able to clutch him out since Emerald Splash could actually hit him without time stop.

>>743283656
>a serial killer with the ability to stop time couldn't get away with crimes
>implying dio wouldn't get smoked if he could only create bombs vs jojo stopping time

>>743280124
only janny trannies and mods hate vidya.
That's why they actively delete every vidya related thread and discourage discussion.

>>743283852
For two seconds at a time? If that even, since Jotaro's in better shape and actually practices? Although, Jotaro might not survive part 3, since he probably wouldn't figure out Star Platinum can stop time without Dio having The World so Dio just blows him up when he tries to get in beatdown range.

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Kira is the only main villain that would be a regular enemy in any other part, except 1 and 2 of course.

>>743284926
The stationaryness of part 4 served him very well.

>>743277307
People who actually like videogames are too busy playing them

>>743284057
>since Jotaro's in better shape
What's does being in shape have to do with anything?
>and actually practices?
Kira is quite obsessive with doing whatever he has to to win. He would autisticly practice time stopping since he would naturally assume it would save him one day.

>>743285298
Maybe this is another Araki forgot thing, but it was my impression that time stopping put physical strain on the user, so Dio was able to get it going longer because he's a vampire who can handle that better. Jotaro maxed it out at 2 seconds since he's a regular(ish) human. Kira's not nearly as beefy as Jotaro, so who knows if he could even get that far. The World's capacity for punching things would still apply, but brutally tearing women's hands off would leave a hell of a lot more of a trail than vaporizing their body down to the molecular level, so the serial killer thing wouldn't work out for him.

>>743280164
>newfaggot's newfag adventure

>>743285657
>but it was my impression that time stopping put physical strain on the user
This was never the case. You need a bit of time in order to use The World to stop time, and using it repeatedly does wear down the user (explained when Jotaro was fighting Pucci) but normal time stop doesn't have any effect on the user at all.
>Jotaro maxed it out at 2 seconds since he's a regular(ish) human
That is also incorrect. In part 3, Jotaro was able to stop time for 5 seconds. He stops using his stand so by part 4 he can just do it for 1-2 seconds, but goes back to 5s in part 6 (presumably because he trained a bit more but not a lot).

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>>743282557
The BEST Joestar fucking kills Dio. Joseph was able to trap Dio in his Hamon infused Hermit Purple in the final fight, but Dio used The World to escape. Without it, Dio would have gotten fried like the many vampires Joseph and Jonathan killed.

What the fuck was King Crimson's ability? He could destroy time or something which felt like a time skip to everyone but himself. However he was also able to move within that time skip because?!?!?????

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Which JoJo had the best moments and why was it Giorno?

>>743284926
Pretty much. He and his stand were physically weak and relied on a short range ability. The hand tank thing was neat but the time rewind felt like an asspull.

>>743288140
Why the FUCK couldn't Golden Wind Requiem do something when the priest destroyed the universe?

>>743284926
nah Killer queen was a busted stand and Kira was a perfect fit for the small town story that part IV was. He might not match the other villains in the sheer grand scale of his villainy but as an antagonist he was very well done.

Our thoughts on Jodio so far?

>>743288268
>destroyed
He reseted it and put everyone is a "better" universe. No reason for GER to activate.

>>743277307
That's not motivating me to consoom slop and stop downloading roms OP. Try again, and be a little more cordial next time.

>>743288340
Did Giorno lose the ability to use it/control it after being fused with the arrow? Also
>He reseted it and put everyone is a "better" universe
The negro made the universe fast forward trillions of years in the future to the point where the universe stopped expanding, shrank, the big bang occurred and the previous universe's events sort of happened. Couldn't Giorno feel something was wrong and summon his stand to nullify Pucci's?

WHEN IS THE NEXT EPISODE OF STEEL BALL RUN

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>>743288337
>This nigga reads

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>>743277307
Who had the better gun stand: Hol Horse or Mista?

>>743288608
>>743288340
>>743288268
The real answer is because MIH is stronger than GER. GER affected the entire world but only because Giorno was attacked and it was subconsciously activated, but it was powerful enough that Giorno wasn't even fully aware of it's power. And even then we only see it take the entire universe back a matter of seconds and undo actions.

MIH was powerful enough to affect the entire known universe consciously whilst leaving people unaffected. Powerful enough to trigger another big bang and reset the entire universe. My head canon is from Giorno's perspective GER would prevent any harm from affecting him and he'd be reborn in the next universe without a scratch on him

>>743289360
Mista by far.

Hol Horse's was useful in that he could just materialise a homing bullet hand cannon at will, but we see Sex Pistols doing so much more other shit because having 6 conscious, if tiny, long range stands is really useful.

The only obvious limitation is ammo

>>743289360
Hol Horse is a cool cowboy so him

>>743289592
No way, the emperor is fucking broken and only hindered by our heroes having four super fast brick shithouse stands that can stop bullets. If you can't block or tank bullets, the emperor just shoots you dead, sex pistols is limited by ammo and the need for a physical gun. The emperor displayed no limits. Plus it can pass a metal detector or a pat down.

>>743289560
Is the whole ritual thing ever explained? How did Dio know that his bone would create a baby goblin which would combine with someone not interested in earthly desires to obtain a stand that is able to change the universe?
Also why the fuck did Dio give a shit about that? He just liked killing people and creating weird human-animal things in part 1 and did almost nothing in part 3.

>>743277307
Hol Horse is such a good character, the way he's both cool and pathetic at the same time without either overriding the other.

>>743288054
Basically he has two powers (Because fuck you 2 stands - but actually it makes sense, Doppio has a Stand and Divaolo has a stand, but they share a body)

1. Doppio's Epitaph lets him see the future, but it isnt exactly clearly defined and can only see so far, but still very powerful

2. Diavolo's King Crimson, very fast, but fragile and not that strong. It's unique ability is to remove the means and leave the result. So anything that is about to take place, he can delete the action that caused it but leave the end result.

Think of it like he can have a meal without cooking it. He can tidy up a hotel room without actually having to go through the laborious task of actually cleaning it (Which he does).
It doesn't just jump forward it time, but it stitches the two pieces of time (Now and whenever the effect finishes) together. So it's like looking at your watch and seeing the second hand tick from the 12 to the 6 instantly. You didn't jump forward in time, those 30 seconds were just instantly cut out.

This enabled him to do shit like clean the hotel room and dip between the time the maid knocked on the door and opened it, even though that would be impossible. And let him basically murder Narancia in front of everyone, but stop himself from getting caught because its like the "Murder" never took place, only the end result remained (Narancia impaled on spikes)

>He was also able to move within that time skip
Basically everyone else during that cut time is a slave to fate, doing their pre-determined actions. When we see Diavolo moving, he's not really moving because what we're seeing is about to be "erased". It's just a very weird concept of a stand thats hard to visualise but thats the jist of it

>>743289909
Dio reads a lot, desires power and authority and was locked in a coffin for 100 years so he had a lot of time to philosophize

Test

>>743289905
But thats the thing, lots of characters in Jojo CAN stop, dodge or tank bullets. That's when having 6 little dudes that can do other stuff like scout is handy

>Pass a metal detector or a pat down
Because pistols can float around there's like a million ways they could easily smuggle a gun or bullets etc. for Mista.

They were coming in clutch with the ice cubes when he was fighting Grateful Dead

>>743289990
Speaking about his coffin, I thought that Erina used it to survive the ship's explosion with the baby. So, how the hell was Dio found in another coffin? Did he make his lackey bring 2 coffins just in case?

>>743290193
That's why he, Dio, is simply the best.

>>743289909
What >>743289990 said. He literally just hit the books and had a lot of time.

It kinda lines up because
>Likes making chimera fusions of animals and people in P1 - develops interest in alchemy
>Enyaba teaches him about Stands through the arrow in P3 - realises the power of stands could unlock a level of alchemy completely unheard of it
>Researches it
>Goes out in the world to find someone (Pucci) that would work for his plan

When he talks about obtaining heaven he really just means ultimate power. He uses the heaven wording to seduce Pucci into being his follower. He needed someone with no earthly desires because he had to be sure they wouldn't betray him and just abuse his power for themselves, instead because of Pucci's devotion he was able to be fused with the Green Baby (Who is essentially DIO reincarnated through alchemy on the bone) into a new form.

Its basically DIO's plan to resurrect himself using Pucci is a host body

>>743290116
Eh, fair enough, though the emperor is the better gun but I grant that even just having scouts is incredibly useful in a stand fight aside from the other utility

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>>743290193
>Did he make his lackey bring 2 coffins just in case?

DIO really did think of everything

>>743290116
NTA but the Emperor was indeed busted. Because the stand is both the gun and the bullets, Hol Horse could just change the trajectory of the bullets as he pleased. He can also shoot as many as he wants it seems. And, unlike Mista, no enemy could hurt Hol Horse by targeting his bullets because they just disappeared on impact. Yeah, having 6 sentient independent beings did help in the story, but I wonder if most if not every problem in part 5 couldn't have just been fixed by having the Emperor shoot dozens of bullets and directing them to the enemy.

>>743284926
Kira's stand is, at the end of the day, a stealth stand. He gains a huge advantage from his enemy being unaware of his abilities. Stray Cat and his father are additional boons that ended up making him very dangerous in direct combat with other stand users but it's not what his stand was originally for.
He's only as dangerous as he is because Morioh is his hometurf and being reactive plays well into his stand abilities. If he was actively stalking and trying to kill a part crew like 3 or 5 he'd be much weaker.

Sadly for him, he's a fucking idiot and got completely outsmarted by snot nosed brats on three separate occasions. Bites the Dust should have been perfect for Kira since it allows him to ignore the issue entirely until it's taken care of, but he got involved for absolutely no reason aside from his ego.

>>743290359
>Picrel
What was that implying? Was it the same coffin Erina used but Dio just hid in this other compartment?

>>743290391
Emperor is like The Hand, very powerful, limited by the user being a retard.

Granted Hol Horse isn't quite as dumb as Okuyasu, but he isn't a master tactician either and is more of a coward than anything.

I actually really like his moment where he's considering blowing DIO's head off from behind, very pragmatic, but he's still shit scared to do it because he's worried DIO will just kill him if he tries.

>>743277307
Did they decide that fucking part six with a 6 month hiatus mid way wasn't enough and thought to do a six month hiatus between each episode?

>>743290239
>Its basically DIO's plan to resurrect himself using Pucci is a host body
This I don't understand. I expected Pucci to say that his grand plan was to bring Dio back to live or recreate him in the new universe, but he just goes on about how he wants people to know their future so they'll be prepared for what will happen. I guess this makes sense because Pucci really believed in fate and all that, but was that really what Dio wanted a perfect world to be?

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>>743290475
Yep

How he got in without Erina being aware is a mystery. My headcanon is this fucking coffin had an entrance from the bottom too. Dio just chilled in the bottom compartment underneath Erina for days, she gets rescued during the day time (So he couldnt leave at the same time and kill everyone) and they just leave the coffin floating in the ocean where it sinks because... Idk they left the lid open?

He gets stuck at the bottom of the ocean for decades until he gets fished up

>>743290391
Emperor's biggest weakness is that it's range is severely limited compared to a normal gun. The bullets being able to change trajectory at will is very strong but Hol couldn't even use it to shoot the tires on a moving vehicle that had just started speeding away, claiming even if it did hit, the damage would be negligible.
That by itself makes Sex Pistols the stronger stand, since the pistols can actually increase the range and power of his gun, and their autonomy is also a very strong ability in it's own way. There are multiple instances of the pistols knowing what Mista would want them to do and doing it of their own accord.

>>743290585
I think the "Evolved" Pucci post green baby is like a weird fusion of the two characters. It's Pucci but with DIO's essence swimming around in him changing him and what he wants.

I think DIO just saw obtaining heaven as obtaining ultimate power (Which, MIH very nearly basically was), master of time and fate. But Pucci wanted everyone to live a life free of mystery because you knew your fate etc.

So its kind of like a weird fusion between the two's goals

>>743289941
Okay but in practical terms it just usually works like time stop.

>>743288268
>>743289560
The real reason is because GER simply stopped existing after the Diavolo fight. When GE becomes GER we see the stand being fused with the arrow but after the fight is over giorno still ha the arrow in his hand

>>743290605
The only downside of Pistols compared to other remote stands is that I dont think Mista can see through them like say, Kakyoin could see through Hierophant, they still had to relay messages back to him because they had their own minds as opposed to being a pure extension of Mista's.
But as you say, they share the same goals and knowledge of Mista and act of their own accord all the time which is strong. Automatic stands are always powerful

>>743290605
> bullets being able to change trajectory at will is very strong but Hol couldn't even use it to shoot the tires on a moving vehicle that had just started speeding away, claiming even if it did hit, the damage would be negligible.
You're right, completely forgot about this. Still, I'd imagine someone more strategic than Hol Horse would do what he tried doing with the Oingo Boingo user and shoot a shit ton of bullets while being very close to the enemy to guarantee maximum effectiveness and deadliness.

>>743290656
I dont think the stands keep the arrow after getting buffed by it? Killer Queen doesnt does he? and SCR doesn't I think he just holds on to it to play keepaway

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>>743290593
>That image
SOULFUL Kino

>>743288054
>Epitaph activates, Diavolo sees the invariable future that will pass
>King Crimson activates, everyone else is now immediately unconcious and must follow that script laid out by Epitaph with the exception of Diavolo who is now free to ignore any actions/consequences that occur in this timeframe, effectively intangible
>one exception is that he can't alter what Epitaph saw either so he can't just activate KC and smash Giorno's head in while he's unable to react
>when KCs ability ends, this period of time is then eliminated and everyone regains consciousness immediately
>the way time is erased causes the moment right before to lead into the moment right after which causes major disorientation like Buchiaratti seeing himself due to looking at where he was standing right before KC activated
>Diavolo can time it to launch a devastating sneak attack just as KC ends so as to work around his own limitations
It's like the World except imagine if Dio couldn't do shit to anyone during the pause, no one could do anything to him either and then when the pause ends your sense of continuity is all fucked up since you blacked out for a few seconds.

>>743290593
Alr, that makes much more sense. It still seems like the timing is off though, doesn't it? Jonathan tells Erina to take the baby and hide in the coffin, then wrestles and holds Dio's head until he dies. So Dio had to:
>1) Escape Jonathan's grasp
>2) Cut Jonathan's head
>3) Plant his head on his body
>4) Find the coffin and not attack the defenseless Erina but squish inside the bottom compartment
All before the ship exploded

>>743277307
Hey, im not whiny

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>>743288054
We don't know. All efforts to concretely understand how it works keep breaking from inconsistent writing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnTfv2abjew

>>743290772
>>743290656
Killer Queen never got the requiem "upgrade" that Golden Wind and Silver Chariot got (in Kira's case, the arrow just pierced him again, it didn't touch his stand). But yeah, Silver Requiem didn't need the arrow to keep its form, it just seeked the arrow. I assume that because by then Polnareff had "died" and his stand separated, the last vestige of Polnareff's will got cemented into Silver Requiem's mind (which was to keep the arrow safe).

>>743289360
isnt the emperor like, fully a stand? As in, non-stand users wouldnt see (and presumably hear) shit if he just suddenly whipped it out? Literally the perfect weapon against anyone that isnt the beef shithouse jojo club.
Hell, I'd say Mista would get cleared by Hol in a 1v1

>>743280124
not me i love death stranding

>>743291360
Wtf. Jolyne already existed in part 4?

>>743291497
Yeah but [fate] keeps bringing stand users together so you couldn't really avoid it

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>>743291497
Indeed. Non-stand users cannot see it

>>743291623
By dates she would have been a kid during it
That's just a silly character interaction from ASBR

>>743291080
>the way time is erased causes the moment right before to lead into the moment right after which causes major disorientation like Buchiaratti seeing himself due to looking at where he was standing right before KC activated
I never got this part because that specific thing (being disoriented) only happens then. In fact, both Polnareff and Giorno had to use their blood to be able to perceive when time had been erased, without it they'd have no clue.

>>743288620
Unironically, when the actual Steel Ball Run from the manga starts, 25th of September.

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>>743291676
Why did you delete this if it's true

>>743288337
Jojolion was the first part I was reading as it was coming out and it was miserable to the extreme.

Whether that's because of having to wait upwards of 4 months between issues, or the issues themselves being abysmal in quality is another matter. Irrespective, I will not read P9 until it is done and fully colored

>>743289909
He spent a century reading esotiric texts

>>743292047
They're anticipating the sudden jump in time so it's not as jarring as it is for someone who is caught in it for the first time and doesn't even realise an ability was even activated. The real problem with my explanation is it can't account for Trish in the elevator disappearing or Giorno winding up in the bars at the Colosseum. If Diavolo is intangible how the hell does he move anything in that time?

>>743289941
>The maid and Narancia's death
Oh yeah, wtfhell? So for Narancia's case, Diavolo had the intent to kill him, and once he activated King Crimson, Narancia was dead and hanging from some poles. But how does this really work? His ability doesn't skip time for him, so, to him, he physically moved and impaled Narancia? He isn't able to attack his opponents while time is getting erased and their afterimage is showing, so did how did he do it? Was it right after the time skip finished? Did everyone see King Crimson murder Narancia, but because that was skipped no one remembers?
Same with the maid, his time skip puts him in a separate dimension of sorts where he just sees how things happen, but how would that have helped him clean the room? He is physically separated from his surroundings during this time. Also, if he time skips, say 5s, whatever he did should be able to be done within that timeframe, right? Then how come he's able to clean the hotel room, something that should have taken him more time than he skipped?

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>>743292457
>He spent a century reading EROTIC texts
Fixed it for ya

>>743292549
People in Jojo can do ludicrous things in tiny amounts of time, have whole conversations, see bullets coming their way and react to them

>>743292638
>Conversations
Think most of that doesn't follow any lore and just doesn't happen on the """actual""" story (like when Frieza says he'll blow up Namek in 5 mins but takes like an hour in actual episode time).
>see bullets coming their way and react to them
I chalk that as being that stands enhance their users' senses or some shit.

>>743292549
>Did everyone see King Crimson murder Narancia, but because that was skipped no one remembers?
Thats exactly what happened. He used Epitaph to see into the future, saw him killing Narancia and everyone being like "NOO NARANCIA, WE'LL MURDER YOU JELLY FISH LOOKING AHH" and then used KC's time skip to skip the act of murdering and go straight to dead narancia.

This meant that he changed his own fate but kept Narancia's the same. He could get away with doing anything but Narancia was still a slave to his fate, fated to die there.


The reason he cant attack people during time skip is, if he wasn't fated to, he cant do it during the time skip. He can however set shit up like throwing blood in Giorno's eyes. It is weird and confusing no doubt but the entire theme is

>Diavolo: I diavolo am above you all, you are all slaves to fate and all going to die, I am going to abuse time skips and future sight to avoid facing my fate
>Giorno: I dont fucking think so

>>743292407
It's better than part 8 so far

>>743292879
So, he used Epitaph to see a clean room with the help or the maid or something and jumped straight to when the room was clean but didn't ask the maid for help?
By the way, how does Giorno's requiem ability work? It sort of like changes fate right?

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>>743288140
Kino

>>743288268
>Golden Wind

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>>743293782
Akari makes such kino panelling

>>743293823
>He didn't listen to the OST
https://youtu.be/U0TXIXTzJEY?t=223&si=v1CbmlzRP_F8jA9a

>>743291360
out of 5!

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>>743280164
Reddit would never like such problematic content.

>>743292407
The new part is divided into acts and we are already on act 2. So feel free to read up to act 1.

>>743294421
Joseph being based as usual

is this thread a jojo reference?

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>MFW we're just a couple of months away from SBR

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>Echoes is such a dumb Stand who cares about sou-

Why was Jolyne born without a stand despite every other Joestar having one?

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>>743277307
I recently started Jojo and am quite enjoying it so far, with parts 2 and 3 being my favorites. 5 is starting off solid so far, with only part 2 being true to it's "bizarre" moniker. I love Jotaro and Joseph and want them to cuddle me with their big strong muscles.
Will they ever redo a story of Eyes of Heaven when/if Jojo is finally finished? I just really enjoy that fanservice and want more of (part 3) Jotaro, except the ending should be Dio fighting Jonathan again.

>>743291180
I'm just gonna assume he dragged Jonathan's body into the casket with him and did the fusion later. There's just not enough time, plus the whole Erina not noticing her dead husband's body being mutilated.

>>743294421
its okay, they never learn of jotaro's thoughts on indians

yeah there's very little discussion and its just manchildren and teens whining nonstop
also its such obviously samefag threads being spammed all at the same time just look at the catalog

>>743294421
>racist against the Japanese
>impregnates one

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Is Araki a good character designer?

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This should be animated even if is not canon

part 4 should have been the introductory story to stands

>>743298649
Yes. I mean, prior to part 8 most main characters and antagonists were all memorable.

>>743288620
They're gonna start translating the JoJolion manga before the SBR anime is finished, aren't they.
>>743289560
>he'd be reborn in the next universe without a scratch on him
Isn't that what basically happens to everyone who wasn't killed by Pucci? Everyone who died got new counterparts in the new universe, but those that didn't are still around, as seen with Emporio in Part 6's ending, and eventually Rohan in The JoJolands.

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La Creatividad

>>743298782
Still sad we didn't get PHF references in the anime

I did not like the ending of part 6 in relation to the rest of the series. The entire world getting reset doesn't feel like the kind of ending the series deserved.

>>743283484
>Spelt wrong
Tourist.

>>743300359
Kill yourself SBRedditor

>>743295357
Joseph was born without a stand

>>743299786
I'd argue I didn't like the pacing and fights in part 6
The world getting reset so that the joestars had a normal life detached from Dio's influence but also being a result of dio's influence feels like the right way for the saga to end on. It just didn't execute it properly

>>743288268
GER protects it's user from direct attacks, MiH isn't an attack, you don't die from Universe reset

>>743288608
it's not how it works, Giorno doesn't have control over GER, it's a passive ability

>>743300359
Johnny is the most boring protag in entirety of JJBA, his presence is almost non-existant
God I wish Gyro was a Joestar

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Favorite 7th Stand User protag stand?