What went so wrong with once so illustrious NFS franchise? It is officially a zombie IP now.https://www.levelup.com/en/news/ea-confirms-fate-of-criterion-leaving-the-need-for-speed-franchise-on-life-support/
>>743280497No one would play a racing game with modern cuckovers and SUVsRicer/tuner culture diedSupercars are just too safe and you can't show them getting wrecked Everyone wants to be Forza horizon, see NFS Heat
We didn't get a Silent Hill game for 10 years and they still managed to dig up the corpse and refuck it.Need for Speed will be fine.
>the results fell shortgee, i wonder why. pretty sad when even ubisoft makes better racing games.
We will get a new NFS whenever he wills it
>>743280497I think the last time I played nfs was most wanted on Wii U
>>743283495Inshallah
unbound was fucking awful, they deserve it desu
>>743283183even horizon is struggling for identity. skilled players want more realism, shitters want more hand holding. walking that tightrope is what's ruining gaming.
>>743280497>corporation acquires franchise and studios>everything after that point is corposlop
>Burnout abandoned to make NFS>NFS abandoned to make Battlefield What's the point of criterion now?
>>743284659Reelism is so fucking boring though. You have your iRacings, Project Cars and AC's for that purpose. Just give me good arcade fun like Burnout 3 or NFS Carbon.
>>743284783criterion are the ones making battlefield now
>>743284812Assassin's Creed was never very realistic
>>743284812more like narrower roadways, semi realistic vehicle damage, and not being able to mow through trees. they had to tone down the skill of their ai in the monthly playlist so shitters could get their special rewards because every shitter deserves a trophy now.
>>743280497They stopped doing new things with it, and instead kept on shitting out shitter versions of "OHHH REMEMBER NEED FOR SPEED REDDITBROS". The last one I played was Heat or something along those lines and it was fucking garbage. The racing itself felt fine, but it was filled with garbage directorial decisions that were truly mindboggling, and just aped what was done better in the past.>no licensed music during police pursuits>pursuits are too long but not difficult>CaC that doesn't matter>We want the tuner audience, but less tuner autism than NFSU2 from 20 years ago>races are too short>races are too easy>finish too many races and immediately go into a pursuitfucking garbage franchise, whoever is in charge of modern NFS is the bringer of its demise.
>>743284881Isnt Battlefield on life support now as well?
>>743280497>What went so wrong with once so illustrious NFS franchise?We want another NFS like Most Wanted, no microtransactions or online bullshit, just a cool singleplayer ladder of enemies to beat with progressively faster and cooler cars>Gosh we just don't understand what the chuds want!NEED FOR SPEED MOST WANTED, AGAIN>WHY WON'T THEY JUST FUCKING TELL US! THE IP IS ON LIFE SUPPORT! HELP HELP! TEXTBOOK ECONOMIC TERRORISM!JUST MAKE A FUCKING SINGLEPLAYER RACING GAME WITH NO DLC BULLSHIT>I GUESS WE BETTER JUST LET THE IP DIE OR MAKE ANOTHER LIVE SERVICE GAME!
>>743280497I hope they at least release an offline patch for NFS 2015 before taking down the servers
>>743286287>EA>doing the right thing
>>743283495إن شاء الله
>>743286193>best selling battlefield of all time>more 4 years of content>big updates here and there>life supportAre you retarded?
>>743284659>realismmotorsport>hand holdinghorizon
>>743280497The original NFS:U kids learned how cars actually drive on the road and relearning driving physics for NFS feels jarring now.
>>743286605I didn't know motorsport did open world
>>743283495Looks like he sucks circumcized penis for petro dollars... Allah weeps
>>743286692Open World racing games aren't realistic
they should remake most wanted a third time(yes they made two more version of most wanted)
>>743286510Hasn't 90% dropped the game already?
>>743280497Hot Pursuit 2010 was the last NFS game I liked though I heard Heat was decent
>>743286143>no licensed music during police pursuitsMost Wanted used original music though
>>743286771Do you mean that racing cannot happen in an open world? Or that open world racing games have never been realistic and therefore cannot ever be realistic?
>>743286804743286804 #2012 game is not a remake, it's just Burnout with a different nameCarbon and Undercover were basically the sequels with the same gameplay
To think I would weep over the death of Ricer culture, as much as I am a classic car fan, even that shit is better than zero car culture.
>>743286887too bad I wasn't talking about Most Wanted
>>743287210Then why did you complain about it when NFS always had original music during pursuits?Licensed songs would not really fit anyway
>>743280497>zombie IPIf copyright duration protection was ever reduced to 30 years max, half of the entertainment industry would implode.
>>743287321Actually I think Hot Pursuit 2 used licensed music
>>743287198i'll be glad once every car has self driving and the gov bans humans driversfuck car culture
>>743287438I know this is probably bait or a butthurt cyclist who doesn't understand that car culture isn't building 5 lane highways and destroying cities, but why?
zoomers don't drivegen alpha will never driveracing games are dead for good
>>743280497Surely someone at Criterion has an idea for a game series?Why buy talented studios then close them when the ONE game series you let them make starts losing popularityGet them on an fps or whore out the black IP for a quick buck
I just want to play as cops murdering hoons without the game playing like shit.
>>743287438The Raped
>>743287476Criterion was not closed. They were sent to the Battlefield mines.
>>743287468neither bait or a cyclisti detest all cars driven by humansthey are killing machines and we waste an insane amount of cash each year, same as makeup.ban it
>>743286960Open world racing assumes some QoL features that take away from the simulation.
>>743285962>mow through treesHorizon lets you do this and I hate it. When your cars are more resilient and destructive in your let's drive cute and cool cars for fun at a festival yay game than in BURNOUT, you fucked up.
>>743287530And self driving cars aren't also going to be a lot of money?
>>743287321>Then why did you complain about it when NFS always had original music during pursuits?probably because its shit, and when a pursuit goes for 20mins because of how fucking sensitive the view distance is on a cop car in every direction, it's boring listening to the same 30s loop when you could be listening to actual music?kill yourself EA marketer
>>743280497It's over. Zoomers and Alphas have no love for cars and car culture, they've been in a back seat of their parents family wagon or an Uber looking at a device their whole lives.As for NFS as a franchise there's still alot of fucking problems, the scale of the open world and the activities you do is so small, they can't compete with any of the other open world racing games, everything is stuck in the 6th gen, FH, The Crew and even unplayable jank like Test Drive Unlimited Solar Crown all mog the last 5 NFS.The only hook NFS has left is the Hollywood storytelling and the soundtrack. they need to combo that with better car physics, and actual cockpit view and a gameplay loop that's fun to do and not tedious just avoid the cops like in Heat and Unbound.
Why don't they just remake NFS:Undeground?
>>743286193EA's decided to throw money at it, trying to get the series to the point it releases every year.With COD going exclusive to Xbox in 5 years ish, when their ad deal with Sony ends, BF want to be there to rake up.
>>743287508Theyre shuttered the minute BF stops being milked or the belt tightens No coming back from being a support studio, as a few XGS shops found last week
>>743280497>Underground 1>Underground 2>Most Wanted (2005)We need to go back.
>>743280497>NFS series is so relevant that U2 (2004) poster was used for the articlelmao
>>743287639Games like MW05 also had original music for pursuits, but there were multiple different ones, and they had dynamic changes in accordance to how the pursuit goes. Just having licensed music play in place of pursuit music would have made that game worse, the issue with the new ones is the original pursuit music being hastily done.
>>743284812A lot of people want something in between, that's a simcade.
NFS was fucked the moment they turned it into burnout while killing the actual burnout at the same time
>>743288078There's Gran Turismo for that
>>743280497>What went so wrongCar culture is dying because cars are becoming luxury products, plus the governments are pushing for electric for surveillance and control reasons, and electric cars are like house appliances, you don't see any games being made about dish washers or washing machines.I'll keep saying that the evolution of the racing game was the GTA series, because it incorporates the human and creates a realistic world of traffic and cities and countryside to drive through. (You) are incarnated in the game or project yourself onto a fictional human who then drives these cars, and that helps enormously with the immersion. GTA games have the racing gameplay incorporated into a city simulation that blows out of the water any competition, on top of giving you the customization mechanics racing games have. By comparison, racing games have nothing but a track and a car, and if you haven't noticed, cars have begun to look samey and shitty. Car design has stagnated and all new cars just copy what the old designs had. You cannot compare the old Murcielago and 360 to the horseshit made these days.Brands have lost their identity and prestige. The soundtracks in these games used to be great, and now it got replaced by gutter trash grunting and overall shitty music for Fast&Furious audiences. NFS underground is looked at as the holy grail due to nostalgia but it made the first steps towards the enshittification of the racing genre, because it put the accent on customization and underground criminal ghetto culture instead of technology, racing, music and the beauty of the landscapes and the road.When you focus on gang culture in your racing game, don't be surprised when GTA takes your audience and don't be surprised that the old racing audience moved on to forza or w/e there is these days.
>>743286743>Looks like he sucks circumcized penis for petro dollarsYou mean petroyuan.
How did A$AP Rocky manage to curate the worst NFS soundtrack imaginable?I think the only song I like from that whole soundtrack is Wicked.
any modern games like sega gt 2002?
>>743280497>underground was a huge hit>drop it after a few games and keep making games that people give zero fucks about
>>743287680I suppose EA and/or Criterion execs have the good old disconnect with their actual audience versus perceived target audience. They keep thinking that they need to appeal whatever they think the current 15-25 year olds are into while car games just kinda are for 30+ people.
>>743280497Electric cars have won, it's over. They're objectively better now. Using an ICE car is basically like handicapping yourself
>>743288406But it's not open world.
>>743288851this but human drivers too
>>743288851>picking up the ball and carrying it around is objectively better than kicking or bouncing it. It's over. Basketball/football are finished.
>>743288035I'm gunna disagree, pursuit music has always been bad. I think that a good middle ground would be that if you're in a pursuit for say > 5mins, it should switch, or give you the option in the settings to change between the two.
I want to drive normal cars, I want to see them getting destroyed
>>743280497Zoomers don't care about cars
>>743287438>>743287530>As if the AI isn't going to make them any less killing machines
>>743291507yes?self driving is already much safer than human drivers
>>743290965>, pursuit music has always been badabsolute garbage taste
>>743280497They decided to appeal to coons and wiggers for a minute, then backtracked on it once that whole scene went out of style. Since then they've thrown the kitchen sink at the series, to the point the name Need for Speed can mean any kind of racing game, therefore meaning nothing
>>743283183>Ricer/tuner culture diedLmfao no it fucking hasnt. And either way, street takeovers are the new meta.
>>743286143>OHHH REMEMBER NEED FOR SPEED REDDITBROS".Shame they picked the wrong era of need for speed to rehash.
>>743291914Im the Need for Burnout era since I never played these games as a kid in the y2k years but in my hs years. However I respect the boomers of the franchise.
>>743291976My rice and soup shall never mix.
>>743283495shut the fuck up hibibi
>>743291976I'm playing Burnout for the first time (Dominator). I love it, music is peak 2006-7 core. mmmm *chefs kiss*
>>743291857It didnt die but it became way more niche after everyone and their mother started bashing and shitting on ricers by the mid 2000s. By 2009 the neon underlights, wacky paintjobs and weird bodykits with giant sound systems had run their course, the only tuning culture that exists nowadays is stancing your shitbox or slapping a Liberty Walk (ew) bodykit on it.>>743287679You can always track back to using older cars, the lack of love comes from the fact most car related media has been ass for the past 10 years and car manufacturers killed the idea of the affordable sports car because it costs money to make those and they'd rather continue taking government gibs to make more garbage cars to sell to soccer moms and nigs who need big fat trucks with a cabin to drive around.
>>743292443Will car culture ever make a come back?
>>743291507More than half the global population is significantly more retarded and less sapient than an LLM.
>>743292519No, all signs point towards cars becoming less and less interesting and less of a hobby and more just a necessity to move around that doesnt kill you, because thats the only thing automakers care about now since enthusiasts dont have the disposable income to allow the manufacturers to tank the development of new models.We'll keep getting some decent cars every few years but we wont be back to that period of time from 1980-2001 where it seemed literally anyone could make a cool or at the very least interesting car, be it Toyota or Skoda, Ferrari or Buick.
>>743280497>What went so wrong with once so illustrious NFS franchise?They stopped releasing good games. NFS Underground 2 is where the franchise peaked and it's all been downhill ever since.
>>743280497Remake Underground 1 to heat up people.Release Underground 3 but in japan style city Get billion usdHow hard is that?
Microtransactons unironically ruined racing games for me. If I play a game I want to get able to get all cars. I'm not a gacha tard that has fun rolling for trash.
>>743293020>How hard is that?Extremely hard, as you need people to not make it trash and woke. All competent people moved on from game dev to better paying jobs. Retarded Californian nepo babies will basically work for free and that tanked the gaming industry
>>743286143>no licensed music during police pursuitsThe licensed music was terrible anyway. The game’s quality increases drastically once you put classic NFS tunes playing on Spotify or whatever.
>>743292519nevermost zoomers i know rarely drivethe gen alphas i know have literally zero interest in getting licenses
>>743288287I hate the introduction of brake to drift mechanic so much its unreal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dps7WoT63U
>>743280497Drones are more fun to race than cars
>>743293569thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdRDIE6_cGw
>>743287401>HalfDisney would go bankrupt overnight.
>>743280497>Make mediocre at best games for straight up 20 years. >Wonder why it is a Zombie franchise. This is not a zombie franchise is dead
>>743292110your living room looks like a therapist/dentist waiting room and I'm almost certain you've posted it before and people have said the same.
>>743294628I have posted it before and sure, whatever people like to think. I suppose the lack of anime posters and figurines makes me an outlier for the typical /v/ inhabitant.
>>743288427>>743291679Street Racing isn't ghetto culture, just look at Initial D and all the Eurobeat it uses
>>743280497They had one job, how do you fuck up a game about car go vroom? And they fucked it up several years straight
Need for Speed is stuck in the hands of marketing teams, which is why it will never make a comeback.It's actually easy to make the franchise great again. Just go back to the beginning and see what the original Need for Speed was all about. Supercars simulated more or less realistically, on highways and long roads, in the middle of traffic. The whole idea was to give people super machines and the chance to drive them in a realistic environment (including the police, who wouldn't tolerate it).But that's never going to come back, because it's such a simple concept. Now it's all about making a corporate product based on a marketing strategy about what's cool and radical and what young people can't resist consuming, and blah, blah, blah, and the result is a franchise on the brink of death, while there are tons of people playing a modded version of Assetto Corsa on PC right now, precisely to drive supercars in the middle of traffic.
>>743291547>absolute garbage tasteglad you outed yourself as a shit-eater, imagine liking generic chase music
>>743295560no no you see need for speed was always about ricing out shitboxes and racing them. Nobody wants or cares about supercar slop.
>>743280497They're never going to sale big numbers for the series again unless they go right back to Most Wanted but with more.
I hate ricing.I hate supercar slop. I hate The Real Understeer SimulatorI hate freeplay sandbox trash>tfw no proper sim with an actual career mode featuring the lower end of the Gran Turismo 4 rosterI hate racing games so fucking much it's unreal.
I was a kid when I played NFS Underground and Underground 2, and its what I associate the series with most (although I did play Hot Pursuit 2 a lot as well). You would think they would keep making Underground or Underground-like games because I feel like most people feel the same way, but they only tried to do it once in that weird 2016 game.
>>743280497I guess one might say that there's no longer a need...for speed
>>743297369just play sega gt 2002
>>743293020>How hard is that?Very hard when you take into consideration the studio is a californian faggotry infested den, they could NEVER make a game with hot woman and actual heavy atmosphere of actual illegal street racing like the old ones.Literally just look a unbound, they somehow made the history of that game be about how illegal street racing are actually misundestood and police are the bad guys, i'm not making this shit up i swear, meanwhile in mostwanted the mf gets cheated out of his car and becomes a domestic terrorist, the police guy that chases you the whole game is such a great character that people remember him to this day, full of hot chicks and the game never praised you for it, you were the anti-hero on the history and the villan to the public, do you really think something like that could be made nowdays?
Every NFS after Prostreet is shit. It isn't exactly difficult to figure out why the franchise is basically dead.
>>743284812>Burnout 3 or NFS CarbonAll someone has to do is make a clone of these and I will buy it, its not that hard.
>>743280497Sneed
Modern cars are fucking trash. Everything is a plastic, jellybean-shaped mom mobile hybrid crossover now and new cars have so much nanny state spyware bullshit packed into them you can't open it up and have fun with anything without it screaming at you or bricking itself.
>>743293724Maybe, but then again Disney made its fortune by adapting public domain works. And even without copyright it's not like the brand name of Disney would be erased overnight.
>>743280497how hard was it to make a game that felt and played like Underground 2 but with a bigger roster of cars and the same customization Carbon had (while adding what it was missing from U2 or adding more stuff) and upgrade the graphics, that's literally all they had to do to make a succefull modern NFS game
Obama killed classic car culture in the US.
>>743280497BMW clearly hasn't gotten the memo that NFS is dead. They still have the wrap on the real car and moved it back to their museum.
NFS: Tokyo Drift would save the business. no ugly dark skin NPCs no Asap Rockythrow in a dating sim boom NFS is back
>>743298892You will play Dangerous Driving and you will like it.
car companies have spoken, they think nfs is a brand risk and support forza/grand autismoimagine having an underground racing video game with no fucking toyotas in it
>>743299929The MW M3 GTR is the most iconic car in video game history. They would be absolute retards to get rid of it.
>>743280497>What went so wrong with once so illustrious NFS franchise?Car brands didnt want their products related to illegal street racing.
>>743300614Yeah but it's also one of their historic racing cars. They'll have to take it off eventually.
>>743280497Because muh racing culture and muh sexy girls in the racing line is problematic chud
>>743283495the only thing he wills, is infinite King of Fighters titles.
>>743280497Nigga every EA ip besides Football and Battlefield is on ice
Midnight Club needs to make a comeback
>>743300838I mean I imagine they didn't apply it to one of the winning cars
>>743306219>modern RockstarMidjeet club
>>743280497I don't know why this thread has so many replies, the answer is obvious:"What went so wrong" is that EA held the license and ran it into the ground like literally EVERY OTHER IP THEY OWNThink about the IPs EA own, and now think of the last one that was wildly successful that wasn't a sportsball game?They killed Dead SpaceThey killed Mass EffectThey killed SkateThey killed BattlefieldThey killed Dragon AgeThey killed almost EVERY SINGLE THING they ownEA spent too long firing experienced people to save money, and now there is NO ONE at EA that knows how to make a good game any moreas soon as the PS6 and next xbox are announced to be $1000 with no options for used games, then all the casuals are just going to abandon the hobby and go play ACTUAL sportsball, then EA are completely fucked
>>743305690>besides footballsoccer or american football?
>>743286281>We want another NFS like Most Wanted*snaps fingers* your wish has come true now stop pestering us
>>743293020>Underground 3You need smart people to write a good plot.You need smart people to pick a good soundtrack for it.There are none of those in the gaming industry today.
>>743311607>You need smart people to write a good plotThe plots in Black Box era were either revenge or an underdog story. How hard can it be?
>>743313837More like cuck NTR story, kek
>>743314523Touch grass
>>743314928...and risk spinning out? No way.
>>743280497>What went so wrong with once so illustrious NFS franchiseI honestly have only been interested in underground 2, never played any other.
>>743316668Underground 1 is good although a slightly worse version of U2. Most Wanted is also good but the driving physics are much worse than U2.
>>743280497they keep adding a cringe ass story to it. I just want to race
>>743286143>Try Heat>Looks like modern shit but whatever>Can't upgrade because I need respect points you get during the night>Do night missions>Can't upgrade because I need money you get during the day>Now I'm too fast and every races are a cakewalk>Also can't change car before a race so you have to drive back and forth constantly, fuck that shit.I have no idea how this shit got greenlighted, it's so fucking bad
>>743283495I'm Sorry, Dave. I'm Afraid I Can't Do That.
>>743293487This has to be fake, this isn't even music, just random noises.
>>743319121lol unc be mad
>>743280497Good. Need for Speed hasn't been good since Carbon.
>>743321008>Need for Speed hasn't been good since porsche 2000fix'd
>>743321370>Need for Speed hasn't been good since Road & Track Presents: The Need for Speedfix’d
>>743321370>>743322568Contrarian retards
Midnight club was better anyway.
>>743324276>t.
>>743280497Makes sense to me why they're dying.>fictional street racing is super dead because it "makes people street race IRL">fictional street racing is so dead that even the Fast & Furious movies are more about welding turbochargers into people and jumping from space ships and shit like that now>doing fictional illegal shit in general is a dying genre>real street racing is less popular due to cameras being everywhere, and there's fewer people with places to work on cars, like garages>after the street racing genre died, NFS didn't seem to know what the fuck they wanted to do with the franchise>the only racing genres that still do okay are simulators, "simulators" and spectacle racing (Forza Horizon type racing games), and those categories are pretty full>Cash For Clunkers singlehandedly slaughtered "car guys", independent car mechanic shops, and a good amount of the tuning scene (thanks, Obama)>more cars these days are being made specifically to NOT be repairable or upgraded by the user, furthering the death of car culture, and half of being a "tuner" just means keeping a laptop on your passenger seat while you tweak some numbers, which isn't as cool>most of the genres of music that'd fit a racing game like NFS have become shit with all the edges sanded off, or have turned into the trashest-of-trash mumble rap or making weird monkey noises>thanks to MPG becoming king, cars have all become really similar to each other in recent years, with few exceptions>electric cars are growing in sales, and electric cars don't really have IRL or vidya appeal for racing as there's no VROOM>hot women are banned>increases in input/video lag, and the increased use of AI upscaling means games need to be more chill>>743292519See, like, half of the above.>>743299348This. It's WAY understated how much C4C fucked car culture as a whole.Obama in general couldn't have crushed the middle class any harder if he tried (I get the feeling he probably did try, tbqh.)
>>743288851pic unrelated?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmWw10erNKY
>>743326897The OSTs for NFS II and III are absolutely fantastic. Some dude called Mellow Sonic did a number of remixes of them and they are also great.
>>743283183
>>743291914I liked Undercover and the only thing that applies to me in that category is>It's funUnderground 1 and 2 were really fun because you were collecting parts and had a variety of race types. Collecting just cars is boring.
