Harvins
maggy sex
What about them?
>>743285536The idea of a portable gf you can easily carry is very tempting
>>743286269Why are they so smol?
>>743286293Gran is so lucky
>>743286372So you could cover a larger surface area when you hug them
>>743285536is there a height chart?
>>743287092I've seen one for draphs
>>743285536Are built for Draphs
>>743287092A really old one, and they're all naked in it so I can't post it here.
How do people find these super womanlets attractive?
>>743287221The secret is crime
>>743287092Their height is indicated on each character's wiki page
>>743287287Based. Siero needs more lewd art
>>743287287Haha, charlotta is so smallCute
>>743287287Fucking BASEDAlso almost all a just at the right height for standing blowjobs.
>>743287287Man Charlotta's tits are big. Naisu Badii.
>>743287287I would expect some of them having a lot of pubes
great girls stuck in a bad game
>>743287287Funf belly erotic
>Finished Mastery trees>Optimized sigils a bit, still not swapping to my non-maxed Terminus but I'm pretty happy with my setup>Load into Infinity Za World for the first time>Notice some pretty fast link attacks>First phase went down in around two minutes and two stuns occured>"Let me record this next bit and see">Yea no, that shit was an instant stunPlease don't tell me it was a chink cheater.
>>743288954You're an idiot anon. Read the edict effects on the mission screen.
>>743288954If you perfect block his Quickening he gets stunned instantly.
>guides for afking the skeleton have set ups like taping down your W key or using a rubber band on your controller>put 2 provoke sigils on rackham instead and the boss glues itself to meim the smartest grub player of all time
>>743286264I love pancakes. Sweet, puffy pancakes. Small and jiggly, squishy, fill em with my cream.
I'm seeing 38k people in Infinity Beelz. What the actual fuck.
>>743290324They already got carried to infinity despite being low PWR, why would they start giving a shit now?
>>743285536I bought the game, can I transfer the save file from my pirated copy or will I get banned? how's the multiplayer, bought it specifically because of it this time
>>743291274>will I get bannedThe only time I've ever heard of someone getting banned in a Cygames game (barring the gacha at least since they care about those) was when a player in Rising got too good with Anila when she was trash tier.
>>743291274there is no anticheat, chinese players openly cheat in matchmaking with instant boss kills and shit.you can use cheat engine to give yourself infinite resources even while online.
Are builds even more limit now with all these celestial and stun sigils?
I wish I can filter those lvl50 mastery faggots
>>743291361>gacha players get banned for scanning burgers>relinkers can give themselves god mode and kill commands and they won't lift a finger
>>743291604I'm going to S++ rank all of those old quests and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>743291604I need mats too lil froggy
Any idea if bots prefer dodge or guard? Does it vary depending on character?I'd like to give them apporpriate sigils?
>>743292063After observing my character playing on full assist, it seems to depend on the attack.
>>743292063Dodge, most likely.When i was down and they tried to Revive me and a AOE attack was used on my spot, they all simultaniously dodge it perfectly. Also, sometimes i think that they are also not affected by any damage from lava or other ground type attacks
>>743285536Potato Saber
>>743293151This is not FF14
>>743293176Cool. She's still Potato Saber
Do you build bots significantly different than player characters?
>add option to disable VFX from allies>it only applies to AI-controlled charactersWhyyyybasically anything smaller than a dragon is a fucking pain to dodge/parry against because you cannot see SHIT
>>743294086I don't give bots any sigils(except maybe their personal one) and i'm fine so far
>>743294086They only ever perfect dodge attacks, so you you should at least nimble onslaught 15 on them for free sba genThey have innately higher sba generation from attacks so Uplift is also pretty good value.Since they perfect dodge all attacks except for the occasion they don't, Guts+Autorevive at 15 or higher will make the bots basically guaranteed to never drain the critical bar at any point. No health or other defensive sigils necessary.apart from that mostly like a normal character while avoiding any skills/playstyles that involve perform a certain sequence of attacks/animation cancelling, since they basically randomly pick what moves to use from what's available to them.
>>743294663Thanks man.
>>743291274I did that and the only thing that happened was the save being corrupted. Probably because of conflicts with the dlc I actually had on steam and all the dlc pirated versions come with by default.
>>743287221the only other metric is ff lalafel and those look like dogshit
>>743287221It's a mystery
>>743297285Those are just children with big long ears
>>743297603They're clearly hags with big long ears
>>743297603you will lose your battle against the grubbles, anon. I wouldn't even try. Granblue fans are too strong.
>>743297815They can't beat the dick though
>>743297603they would actually be likeable if that was the case.
>>743298093Aren't they already likeable though?
What if I like both >>743297285 and >>743298093 and think they have different kinds of appeal?
>>743291274Tech illiterate retard
I just think they're neat.
>>743298627Is no one questioning gran's preferences in girls?
>>743298627No, you definitely think they're sexy, which is correct.
>>743298732They’re too busy trying to cover up the Europa Castle files to worry about that.
>>743287092
>>743299029Why is there a cock next to these girls?
>>743298627who's the one on page two?
>play the Proud quests where you fight 2 elemental dragons at once>Notice my AI teammates aren't doing the SBA or link attacks anymore>its because the AI bugged out and started standing in the middle of the arena, and is incapable of taking damage>only way of making them regain consiousness is my having myself or another teammate die, then they'll rush to revive them and play like normal againThis happened during both of the elemental dragon dual fights, back to back WTF
>>743299354
Which of Fraux's combos should I be spamming in both stances? Which master trait styles have you guys tried on her so far?
>>743298885They're sexy in a neat way.
>>743299726
>>743299726Looks nothing like a fucking harvin. Disgusting.
>>743299726That's a bit too chunky to be combat effective.
>>743299726Brapvin
>>743287221I was mindbroken by living in an area with a high SEA population.
>>743297603They're lolibaba potatoes.
The Potato Triforce
>>743298627>only ringed SSR harvinsLARPer.
>>743299531It's bullshit how she's not in Rising and Relink. I just fucking know that if they'll add another dragon it'll be Lu Woh or the fucking cat.
>>743300859>CatToo based for cygames
>>743301254
Am I the only one who's thinking that Rackam and Maglielle are fucking? It just feels right.
>>743301829Rackam already has Tiamat and his boat shota
>>743287092Only this one
>>743285536Cute tummy honestly
>>743301829Rackam has enough hoes.
>>743302829Play relink then
>>743285536BEATRIX ASCENDED. I just finished the final boss and got the credits. >>743299365Hold or press down on the down/bottom button of the d-pad and you'll toggle between their SBA modes
Why are harvins so fat
>>743288954>Sandalphon player instantly eats shitLike clockwork
Wheres the mod that gives me infinite ambrosia/MSP
>>743303631Cheat Engine, anon.
Is there a good explanation on the damage cap somewhere?I understand the gist of it, but I want to see more info on special stuff like how it influences critical hits, if you need to make sure you consider defense debuffs etc.
>>743303507Potatoes have a lot of carbs
What's the easiest character to playI sold my ps5 and now want to rush through the game for the new content.
>>743304108gran/djeeta
>>743304108All of them lol. Any shitters claiming otherwise are use to gacha touchscreen combat.
>>743304935I remember some characters have heavy commitments like Id or counters that you can easily whiff
>>743304935There are characters that are definitely easier than some other.
>>743303667damn that was easier to do than i thought
>>743304108Fediel is broken so you can beat everything with her
>>743304935>all of themseeing narmaya players die all the time, i don't think so
>>743305695nta, but that's the only character i didn't unlock yet.i'm still missing one more crew card
>>743306054Did you get the ones from story mode? There are crew cards hidden in 4 missions.
Imagine
>>743306337That adult is taking advantage of a minor!
>>743306328yeah, actually, i got one randomly in the conflux in a bonus stage.and i could get one more from the golden slime quest in the conflux, but i didn't found one yet
>>743303903>critscap's unchanged>(de)buffspreviously didn't affect cap, now they dobut it isn't 1:1 with buff strength and I don't know the details, seems fully multiplicative with sigils at least>+DMG dealtmultiplies after cap>+DMGmultiplies before cap
>>743306707Damage Dealt on sigils only multiplies after cap of it’s a new sigil.Old ones like the one for ranged attacks do not.
>>743306707>crits>cap's unchangedSo crits just suck?
>>743307109No you still want 100% crit rate because you need to get to the cap too.
>>743307645She will die...
>>743307707Harvins are stretchy
>>743307645THINK OF THE ADVERTISERS
Do the traits from summons also affect CPU party members?
>>743307954Yes, but not other human players.
>>743307645that's a 24 years old hag btw
>>743285536alright
Is the targeting for the 3 hits combo finisher of Mag bugged? If I move the left stick it just slides around and I like lose control of the aiming. The 2 hits combo finisher works fine.
>>743308468It's just difficult to steer, you shouldn't lose control completely unless you start a new attack.Pressing the opposite direction makes it stop in place as it turns around, useful for keeping it on top of the target instead of trying to wrangle it.
/v/ I have a confession to makeI'm a Sandalphon player...
guys i need silver centrums....
>>743308906At least you're not Narmaya player...
>>743308695I see what you mean. Holy fuck it's annoying to use.I was just curious, I'm gonna use her as bot.
>>743300814Philosophia SSR (+5*+Transcendence) when?!
>>743308198I like the doujin where she has a huge bush.
how the fuck does the master trait for zeta work that's supposed to give her another arvess hammer?
I tried playing Rosetta and I can see why you don't see her in endgame. She has no place there.
where's the fastest way to farm legendary merits bros..
>>743309565Same as pogos, you press the button and she'll jump back up so you can do it again.
>>743309565I heard you need to not spam hammer or else it will think you mistimed your pogo input, maybe thats your problem.
Is there a way to force the AI to use SBA?
>>743310204you can tell them to do whenever it's possible/ready or hold it until you use them by pressing down on the control pad during battle
>>743310204There should be. Put SBA on auto and set it so they don't wait for full chain in the settings and don't prioritize using it on boss, that should make them use it as soon as they can no matter the situation.
>>743310537>no matter the situation.they mostly use it if a chain burst is possible with everyone, so there is that
>>743310204If you want them to wait for you or use on their own, this >>743310415If you want them to use on boss or mob, change in the optionIf you want them to use whenever they have or wait for full chain, change in the optionIf you want to click a button and force any of them to use SBA, no I wish I have that too
>>743310415>>743310537Not exactly what I was looking for.I wanted a way to have them hold 100% and start it with the press of a button. What >>743310643 said basically.I noticed that even if they're all three at 100%, they wait for me to reach 70% before starting it, while they could do it much sooner. Or too many times they could've used it to interrupt a phase change. It's annoying.
>>743309805Why? Because here roses are so immobile?
>>743310836>they wait for me to reach 70% before starting itwell, yes, because they want to get the full damage with a full burst.if you want more control over that, play with other players, otherwise, the AI won't be doing just that.>>743310415what i wrote here is the most control you get during a fight
>>743311164>well, yes, because they want to get the full damage with a full burst.thanks captain obvious
Is this good?
Imagine a Harvin girl also being a size queen but she’s so small that your average 6 inch cock feels like pornstar length to her
>>743311969Not Charlotta, she's for small penis chads only
>>743287092Man, if only Fediel didn’t exist, the tallest female character in gbf would only be in the 170s
lucilius is still the hardest boss in the game, every run is sweaty
>>743311969>average 6 inch
>>743311731I'd reroll until I have at least two damage cap bonuses.
>>743312249Is Reisa a size queen?
>>743310836If they still wait for everyone to be ready even after specifying in the settings that you don't want them to do that then that honestly sounds more like an ai bug.
>>743298885>>743299726>>743299904
>>743302859>Yup, that's me. You're probably wondering how I got into this situation.
>>743312249Yeah, it’s average. Right?
>the dlc will fix silver centrum, crystal, and dmg cap guys trust the plan
>>743287221>cute little plump lolis>not attractive Exposing gayness has never been this easy until now
Is this the relink thread or the pedo thread
I’m going through the vanilla postgame and I know all the fights can’t be bangers but I’m sick of golems and big lizards and now the game decided to start throwing me two of them at the same time.
>>743314028Those are the same thing
>>743285536for me it's rei
>>743298627So who is canonically the strongest female harvin and where do they rank among the strongest characters in the series?
>>743314217Relink offers something to appeal to nearly all 2dcon tastes
>>743314029>I’m sick of golems and big lizardsHave I got a surprise for you when you hit chaos difficulty
>hit by a multi-hitting tracking projectile>try to get up>get knocked back down>repeat 3x until deathis there a mechanic i'm not aware of to avoid this?
>atk buffs go over dmg cap>guard payback gives you an atk buff>you can perfect guard during attacks nowmy brain just did 1+1+1 and told me i was retarded for not realizing this sooner
>>743314438Probably Nio/Niyon or Fif/Funf. They're in the same group as Seofon and Tweyen so they're up there as far as strength goes.Funf probably has an edge as she's supposedly the strongest mortal mage in the world in terms of raw power.
>>743314681don't get hit unironically
>>743314681>run away and reposition so you don't get hit in the first place>perfect dodge the first hit and bask in your 5 seconds of invulnerability>play a character with enough vertical mobility that you can just disregard most mechanicsSimple stuff.
just reached "into the abyss" and failed the DPS check for the 4th time. Gonna have to start grinding for entire sets of DMG cap sigils for each of my teammates now...
>proto baha can damage you through invincibility with his bigass laserFucking cheap lizard
is infinity hexa even possible with randoms, I can't tard wrangle these people past the platforming segment more than 10% of the time and when I do we hit a dps brick wall that stops them anyway
How many infinity quests are there? Is it just Versa, Bubz, Luci, World and Hexa?
>>743314028There's no proper Relink thread up right now so the potato thread will have to do.
>>743285536Hella would.
>>743312185Rude. Tall girls deserve love too.
>>743303117How do you have so much stun?
>some of the mods are finally getting updated to work on 2.0+Perfect. Less armor means better mobility.
Does this game have some sort of target switching other than unlocking/relocking?This is ridiculous.
any vasbros here? Ive olny tried hooked on combos spec and it is pretty much what Ive expected in terms of gameplay in base game and it is great, garrison, stout heart and other defences allow for small hp pool to run terminus and still take a lot on punishment, how other specs are doing?
>>743314681This is why you use Stout Heart.
>>743304108Eustace is both ranged and very mobile
I've been going through ER having lots of fun but I've just done the Chaos++ versions of Behemoth and Proto Baha, and if these two fights are any indication as to what the rest of the game is like then fuck this shit. They are not 'hard' fights, but holy fuck this is miserable. SO many projectiles, off screen aoe's, non stop attacks and other bullshit. I feel bad for anyone playing a slow character with a charge attack or a character whose master traits require landing certain skills to work because holy fuck stout heart MUST be a requirement to actually do anything at this point
WHERE YAIA
Why are erune women like this?
>>743315970The right analog stick lets you switch targets
>>743317112forbidden from appearing outside the gacha
>>743291604Aren't you asking for help and co-op? They're helping you.
>>743316917proto baja blast isn't that badthe only attack that seems to trip people up is the exploding orbs but they're telegraphed enough that they're only going to hit you in the back if you're being greedy
>>743317637>thought people were overexagerating when calling her a dyke>she literally does not shut the fuck up about her gay homo lover for even a single scene she's inI'll never doubt you again.
>>743315720My sigils add up to stun power level 45 (+100 stun), plus getting the masteries on the weapons also gave me good stun. I also have stun power + 20 as one of my over mastery traits.
>>743311731No. Ask yourself. What will this will help you?
>>743301829He's gay though.
>>743285536How awkward would having sex with a harvin girl be?
>>743314681Yeah, it's a hidden mechanic called blocking and dodging.
>>743319376https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZhp-Uctd-c
Just beat The World, when do I unlock level 50 masteries?
>>743319376Have you ever tried having sex with a midget?It's the same.
>almost failed the quest on Infinity the World using Fediel cause Charlotta and Fraux fags kept dying>had to start using the dodge cancel on my balls to try speed the fight up so we could kill him before the critical bar ran outI have sinned.....
>>743317637her backstory attempting to be sad is by far the shittiest thing I've seen in a long time >oh no she is too beautiful now all the degenerates chase her
>>743312185And bless her for it.
>>743314217Nuh uh relink threads have more boobies
>beat infinity babu but just in time (not even close to getting the 8 minute objective) with a sandlephone (good), sandlephone (floortank) bae (didn't die much but bad damage) and me as io (didn't die but still learning the fight so not on terminus)The experience without Fediel ruining it is way more exciting, even if it takes longer.
They just let these things walk around
>>743321190Anon, there's an entire race of them.
Is Io still really good? i never see anyone playing her
>>743321190It's bullshit that there's only one playable female draph in relink
I don't know who needs to hear this, but if you're missing one Document for your Memo, check Rolan's room in the church
>>743320032I’ve never tried having sex at all.
>>743303117/v/, I want to use her. Is is actually BAD or not. I'm watching random Bilibili videos with Nips playing her and they're just super armoring through everything on Infinity easily, yet some anons are whining about her damage around these parts. Which is it? Is she good or bad??
Fediel's current existence actively brings the game down so much, multiplayer is basically unplayable because of this character
FUCK Silver Centrums. Why the fuck is this the limiting item when trying to build multiple weapons and characters AGAIN
>>743322567I like how it's so easy to tell who slimed their characters up instead of doing something worthwhile instead.
>>743322321Basically this >>743322406Her DPS is good, she's fun, (although appropriately a little braindead) but if you're playing a DPS character that isn't Fediel you're just obsolete
>>743322567i have max silver centrums not even sure where i got them
Why is she not playable?
Where is he
What are the best traits for AI Cag, Eugen and Zeta? I've no idea if the AI bothers to use their gimmicks correctly.
>>743321190Yeah, they are like 10% of world's population so not exactly a rarity there, the game doesn't really make you feel that because the roaster is dogshit and too human.
>>743320885>We got fucking Eustace instead of Ilsa
>Skipped Cutscene (3/4)
No Vira no buy
The music that plays when you talk to Fraux at the bar sounds like something you would hear in a strip club and I think that really suits her.
which characters should i grind up so that i can grind chaos slimes?
>>743323812I really wanted to waifu her until I did discovered she was a carpet muncher and doesn't shut up about Rios. Has there ever been another character in GBF ruined like her? I don't play the rest of the series.
How the fuck do I get rid of my excess sigils when I've got 2000+ that are all V+?
>>743323654narm being the only f.draph is so retarded meanwhile we have now 3 males
>losing dps races on proto bahamutAbout where should I be to not get gated like this? I have 100% offensive masteries (though maybe not on the best ai allies) and lvl150 weapons, anything else I should be building? I thought maybe more 150 weapon masteries but not sure how much they move the needle
>>743323685The one not skipping? Me.
>>743321165Did you use a DPS meter? How did it look overall?
>>743324031wait until you have 5000/5000 and then cry
>>743324031Start fusing stuff, sell ones that you're never going to use or fuse.
>>743324031>can filter to include certain traits>can't filter to exclude Fucking Japs man.
>>743322848Have you used her in Infinity a lot?
>>743324125Might just be about timing your SBA and stuns. But your AI companions definitely matter in that scenario. I remember my first time doing it I was so underpowered I cheesed it with Siete refreshing SBA
>finally get a group of randoms that manages to beat infinity hexa>it's 4 maglielle potato chads
>>743323654>that breedable, childbearing frame>only 10% of the populationMale draphs, y r u gae?
>>743324239No I'm just assuming judging on the time both the bad sandlephone and beatrix were desperate to stay in my shield circle.
>>743324078I wish their next game could have OC MC and original story but also character creator simply to escape homoknights/society/homo angels. In fact Dragon Dogma style game where your MC is both your playable character and an NPC that other people can take on adventures would be great, you could play with your friend's character even when he's not online which is perfect for wage slaves that can't play together outside the weekends. You could go a step further and also tweak his build with things you earned while he was away and it would pop up to him as suggestion when he logs in.
>>743322009no ones playing Io....
>>743324992honestly you didn't REALLY beat him unless you're playing with randoms and it's 4 of the worst character in the game
>>743325662i've seen some, but very rarelyalso, i'm probably also the only katalina player...
>>743301829fraux is after maglielle if you run them together, shes into it too
>>743323685lobby doko
Should every character use their awakening weapon, even if the traits dont suit them just for the raw stats?
>>743325727Name them>hard mode: no ferry
>almost one week after Relink ER released.>Still fucking nobody in my country has it.>Suddenly a new seller appears in "mercado libre" (basically LATAM amazon).>They have super rare games like pic related, is specifically the japanese version with the cooler box art.>STILL NOBODY HAS RELINK ER!Oh come on!
reminder that beating infinity with fediel in the group does not count
>>743323951Eugen is really good for it.
>>743326310How much is S divided by 179small51 in real currency
>>74332638152.93 dollars, also I get this if i search "Granblue", funny how the western box focus on MALES and Edge when most of the people play this for the girls.
>>743325909>i'm probably also the only katalina playerThere's more of us. Did the mazurka of war boss gauntlet today and ran into another Kat player, a third one I've seen since ER dropped lmao. He ran Crux while I'm on Insight so it worked out nicely.
>>743326349It does actually.
Anons...i'm starved for centrums and I already traded all the mats I could for some. I am only in chaos+, where is the nearest centrum mine?
>>743325727who is this even anymoremy friend says its beatrix
>>743326292>>743326695
>>743326695Probably Rackam. The handful of other low DPS characters at least have utility.
>>743326752>eugen percy and yoda>blol
>>743326981Hey. Eugen fucks.
>>743326310Is this game even good? I remember that the whole sci-fi part of it is a "lie" becaue in universe the characters, who are indeed from a sci-fi setting, get stuck in a shitty planet that is in a fantasy setting and that sucks.
>>743327002Thats what I mean, (all 3 of them)he's absolutely at least A he's still extremely good
>>743327102its an excellent remake of my favorite game, i highly recommend it
>>743326506ER doesn't have Xseed as the publisher anymore, what happened to them?
>>743327102
>>743326679Anons please!
>>743327265LMAO, what an asshole.
I would switch characters every mission if I didn't have to grind and gear them all individually.
Soo let me get this straight. Landing combo finishers with all three of her buffs will immediately activate DC? And having them active during DC will trigger Embrasque Unleashed right?
>>743285536I've never played any of the games, but an anon asked me to draw one a few years ago and i did. They cute.
>>743327265Based
Is there another path on the mastery trees that open up once you hit 50?
>damage of normals and skills range from +105% to +150%nice>>743327525make your life easier and choose insight
>>743326981Schrodinger's Percy. He is both top tier and shit tier until someone actually tries him
>>743327873The meta with her is definitely schizo clock mode. Makes her almost unkillable in Infinity.
Io gods, I need advice. I unlocked lvl3 master traits last night. I'm not sure what to use>Concentration seems rough until I can have 100% uptime on the leylines>Flowery 7 is a painful spell for a lot of small, fast bosses>Spell Chain is awkward because you can only chain two spells, and the third is useless for chaining outside link timeLast one annoys me, why is the chain debuff so short?
>>743327972Percy has been my main ever since I unlocked him. He is extremely fun.
>>743322242Shouldn't you start by fantasizing about sex first, and then move on to more complicated things?
>>743326752Just wait. Rackam will be S++ after the next patch.
>>743326679not sure where a good farm for that is in chaos+ but the post last boss 4 dragon gauntlet shits out around 40 centrums and 70k msp + summons
>>743326752I wish I could have an opinion on this, but I can't even beat the first three bosses from Infinity. I think it's a lot more complicated than that.
Harvins are for marriage you degenerates.
>>743328376What difficulty is that in?
I keep seeing posts about how Rackam is bottom tier but it doesn't account for how easy he is to play and how much uptime he gets in doing damage. I breezed through the DLC playing only him. Now picked up Percival because I want to play through the DLC as a melee character and he was my second main.
>>743326679Conflux, every run is 40 pieces.
>>743327873That one doesn't seem as fun
>>743328376The Chaos+ one at the end? Was that really 70k?
>>743328614NTA but beez scares me...
>>743328696No there's a chaos++ version that unlocks after finishing the DLC.
>>743328075all 3 are terrible i have no idea what they are thinking i went spell chain cause it gets in the way the least, concentration literally makes you worse
>>743328847Wait I thought infinity was the end of the dlc?
>>743328761You haven't seen what rape really is yet.
>>743328917I have seen a lot of ios eat shit because they wont leave the circle
>>743328979Yes? Those quests unlock after the initial Hexa quest
>>743328979it's not infinity, it's for terminus transcendence mats
>>743328917Yeah, I'll probably do the same. I missed F7 repeatedly the other day and I could feel my neck heating up. Io should be my comfort character.
>Playing Narmaya since release>Want to try a ranged character for MAXIMUM UPTIME>Most feel awkardWhat ranged characters are people playing anyway?
>>743329138The only one I like playing is Tweyen but she sucks unfortunately cause the devs made her bad as a joke.
Which Charlotta mastery is the best? I like doing guard points but I suck at landing them, maybe due to lack of fight knowledge. I really can't decide where to spec cause I like being invincible and just charging in too
>>743329195I keep hearing she's bad but WHY is she bad?
>>743329195>>743329232She's fine for the most part. People just want BIG damage.
>>743329232It's literally just as simple as her numbers being low. Her natural damage caps are dog shit so even with max investment she can't match the output of other characters.
Rank the new characters besides Fediel on how good/meta the are /v/.
>>743329315The nonstop push back is also really fucking awkward to play.
>>743329384Yeah you have to dodge cancel basically everything just to stay in range.
>>743329326>metaI don't know but Gallanza is more fun than I initially thought, Maglielle feels really awkward with her finishers, Eustace is probably fun but he's a catboy, Bea.
>>743329326Fraux > Maglielle > Eustace >Gallanza = Beatrix
>>743328513oops wrong harvinsilly ai hallucinated again
>>743329452This is also my biggest gripe about Io, Freeze constantly pushes me back so far. It's annoying to hop back in.
>>743288954It's amazing how I've put like 200 hours into this game and half the time I still have no idea what's happening during these fights. It's like you genuinely just play this game on instinct. Maybe I should try those new effect reduction options.
>>743327212Most likely because Cygames is self publishing their own stuff now.
Finally having people playing multiplayer because of the DLC surprised me with how many Vane's exist just to use the invulnerable skill. As a Tank player in every game ever it makes me wanna run him as well.
>>743329557What makes Fraux the best?
>>743329195>Weakest character in the game>Canonically solo 1v2s Magi and Gallanzajust another instance of "The boss (super strong) VS the boss when they join your party (nerfed to shit)"
>>743329680Outside of dealing damage and not getting hit by damage the only real thing of note to pay attention to in the World is when you see him do his quickening if you perfect block it you'll put him in a link attack instantly and it'll also apply a massive defense debuff on him.
>>743285536>>743287287Harvins
What the fuck is going on? Isn't anyone fighting Lucilus? Everyone's just setting up their NPCs and going into full-auto mode.Pubs are terrible. There aren't any good guides online on how to win the fight or suggestions for builds. It's all go Full-Auto mode and farm.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lNpxq3foMw
I came back to this game thinking the expansion was going to bring a shitload of waifus and harvins. It's literally a bunch of fujoshit and faggot men. Granblue fucking sucks. Charlotta is the only good thing this game ever shat out.
>>743330608https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwcJNsoY50E
>>743330057When people say one character much weaker than the other how much weaker are we talking? I mean in an actual boss not abusing Sir Barrod which just stands still.
>>743330575I didn't bother fighting that faggot before the DLC and don't want to bother AFTER the DLC as well. Maybe when I'm hyper over geared and want the angel twink to be playable. Only MAYBE then.
>>743330575Why would you even bother farming Lucilius?
>>743330575Wake me up when people are farming Infinity quests AFK
AAAAAAHHHHHHHOW FAR AWAYTHE IDEAL WOOOORLD
>>743330575You hit him until he dies.
>>743330747Not much weaker. There's a clear handful of characters who are in the lowest tier, but they are all similarly weak rather than one being the clear worst in the game. Like Tweyen is not going to be noticeable much worse than Katalina, because every character is different at the end of the day. There's just nothing they are good at that someone else isn't much better at.
I'm going to build a gun nigga. Eugen or Eustace?
>>743331292Eustace actually has you play the game, so him.
>>743331292Eustace if you want to shoot the gun and engage with mechanicsEugen if you want to spam grenades
>>743330898nta, but doesn't he have 4 giga meta sigils?
>>743331426>giga metaHis damage cap sigils suck in ER. Nobody is using them.
>>743330575because pubs in C++ faa are stupid ass retards who keep hitting the swords and wiping 30 seconds into the fight
can you get beas skill cooldown sigil and warpath in one sigil? or its always skill cooldown and enmity one?
>>743331730Every character has 3 unique character specific traits, warpath can ONLY be found on it's own with another random skill. The other 2 can be together.
>>743323270He would be so cool and flashy in this gameThe Robomi events also had great songs
This game has a fairly large cast of characters but I only see like 4 of them ever in MP. People are fucking sheep.
i want out of the mines
I tried the big motherfucker with the polearm. really fun.
>>743332202This DLC has six new characters and I'm interested in four of them. I already played the base cast two years ago.
>>743325574DD2 is dogshit, stfu
>>743328075>concentrationUse Nyx and stay at 1hp in your circle.Highest damage Io you can be.>essenceSpell>Flowery>Spell>Dodge cancel>Charge a segment>Dodge>Spell>Finish charging SGYou have enough leeway that you can cast either Fire or Ice and resume charging SG without losing progress.You can do it for lightning as well but the timing is really tight.
>>743330608Fuck off
>>743285536Mash 'em.
>>743332494I was hyped for Dagger Loli and Mr. Torgue but Torgue has a pretty boring as a shit kit. Fraux and Beatrix? At least have something going on in their kit. Everyone else is a snooze fest. Including the "now not DLC" super heroes from earlier versions.
I think if this expansion came out 6 months or even a year after release it would be laughed out of relevancy because it adds barely any new fights at allBut because it's been 2 and a half years since I played, all these fights feel fresh again even though I grinded them to hell at one point. Maybe it was a genius decision to wait this long
>>743328075Another thing to keep in mind with essence.Depending on how far away you are from the boss, you should leave a bit of time between spell casts, otherwise you'll give the boss two seperate chain stacks instead of getting an explosion/debuff proc.Another reason to build+hold charge between casts
What master traits to I want to aim for with Eustace?
>>743331085that part is kino
>>743332202Fedi I can understand but I'm surprised how popular Maglielle is. I don't think she's insanely op or anything either, people just love the potatoes.
>>743333881Crux is my favorite. Rewards strafe shot dodges and skill/link attack reloads with tons of damage and stun.Essence is okay if you'd rather skill spam.Never tried Insight.
>>743334425>strafe shot dodgeAny tips for the timing?I can sort of get the dodge skill perfect dodge, but I've no clue when the perfect strafe is in the animation.
>>743333881do people do charged shots with eustace?i tried him the other day and it seemed to build meter just the same to spam weak shots + perfect reload
this saying it works for link time too IF the boss is on break or any link time?
for me it's Melissabelle
>>743333721I almost have to agree. Buying the DLC kinda gave me a reason to finish grinding out the Terminus weapons more anyways. While experimenting with some characters I don't normally play.
>>743334179she has a god tier VA.
>>743334502Dodge is active for the majority of his movement. You can guard or manually dodge during it to play it safe, building stacks is more important than firing a lv1-2 shot.
>>743334670https://rentry.co/ytczavom>These apply at the end of damage calculations and bypass damage cap, so they're very useful. A lot of damage is done during Link Time, Break and SBAs so Aqua's value can't be underestimated.
>>743328513>Harvins are for marriage to you degeneratesftfy
>>743334670Bonus dmg during your free damage windows: when everyones chaining SBA, during link time slow, and when enemy is in break.
>>743332728No he's got a point. Relink is really only held down by its story being associated directly with the gacha. A Relink sequel should drop Gran and focus on somebody new for its story starting their own Skyfarer crew. Fraux already acts like she doesn't know Gran in Relink, they should just included gacha characters in the sequel and bend it a bit so they can join the new crew. You get to keep all the characters from the gacha and craft a better story that isn't weighed down by the association. The main cast of Relink are extremely boring in the story. I don't agree with the character creation though, it should be a completely new main character like Id, and the main crew should be all new characters besides maybe one returning character to help jump start the crew with the new main character.
This webm of modded Charlotta is still the best thing this game has ever produced desu.https://litter.catbox.moe/x55j49iyskckydl7.webm
Is Song viable.... people say shes shit....
>>743335608Just play whoever you like anon.
>>743335608Everyone is viable, I see her all the time
>>743335007Regular strafe dodges don't give you stacks though?
>>743331468no they don'talpha is fucking busted for fediel
who uses the normal berserker sigil? npc?
>>743336234Siero. For recycling.
where is everyone else?
I cant decide who to play, i was maining Fraux+Maglielle but now I'm going crazy swapping all over
>>743336407idk I didn't bother saving links
>>743301829Mag is into Siete's big sword.
>>743336454How high would Fraux be without being carried by the Link spam though?
>>743320225I'm at that point where all of my trait changes are just fine tuning but I managed to luck into a combination that gives me 3 charges of guts, 2 chargers of auto revive and maxed out potion hoarder. It's pretty great.
I played with 2 Beas today and they were LOUD.
>>743336817ORYAAAAAAAAHDOKEEEEEEEEEDOYAAAAAAAAH
>>743336817Did you get erect?
>>743335608If I can get MVP with her even when there's a Fediel in the party, she can't be that bad. Or I'm just the best player on earth.
>>743336817Bea deals extra damage the louder she yells pls understand
>>743336817She's a screamer all right
>>743336407At 150m despite having finished my Terminus.
>>743327525Yes, but it only activates DC when you have full bar and all the clock buffs. To trigger Embrasque Unleashed, you have to do your Y finishers during DC to get a stackable buff, and at 10 stacks of it, you get Embrasque Unleashed.
>>743336973unhide their names
Out of Fortitude Crystals again, lads
>Tera has Elin>FF has Lalafel>Grubble has HarvinsWho else? Which is the best?
>>743314438Unironically harvins are canonically among the strongest characters. You have two harvin girls in Eternals. Charlotta is the leader of the most famous knight order in the skies. Rei is a legendary undying monster that even Astrals feared. And Haaselia became the leader of Evokers, who are likely even more dangerous than Eternals.
Do the war elememtal, berserker echo, and spartan echo Summons only come from Defy Infinity quests or can I get them from the later chaos++?
What is Charlotta's best mastery tree?
>>743285536Is there a trick to Infinity Bahamut Versa I'm missing? Entire team does relatively well and barely ever dies but we keep timing out. I'm on 55k+ power and am aware how damage calcs work in this game + good at action games so I'm not the mouthbreather who still doesn't understand the mechanics (everyone ignoring Quickening parries makes me livid).
>>743337490I like Noblest Stance.
>>743337490I'm enjoying her invincibility tree. Especially against some of the bosses in Chaos++ having those couple of seconds where you can take a breather and just wail on the boss for a couple of seconds is great.
>>743337434When was the last time the Knights of Luminel were every relevant to any plot other than Charlotta's Fates?
>>743334546his uncharged shots do pitiful damage
>>743287221They make your dick look really big and they're so small it becomes novel.
How long do you think the ER quests will be active online?I started playing a second character today starting from the beginning of Er quests, a few quests it took time to find people and the chaos quests were full of completely noobs, tendies etc. no high master level players.Conflux and the increased drop rate of items doesnt help either as there is then less reason to do the earlier quests to keep them populated.
>>743337629The big angel events. 90% of characters did shit in ages. That's what happens when you have 500 characters.
>>743337465Copied from somewhere else, there are chaos missions that can drop them.Berserker echo - Four dragons of the apocalypse, On the threshhold of finalitySpartan echo - All consuming darkness, Defy the threshold of chaos, Let chaos reignWar elemental - New world order, On the threshold of the worldStout heart - Supernatural appetite for meat, Four dragons of the apocalypse, On the threshold of destruction
>>743337434>famous knight order in the skiesR E T A R D
>>743337787I took a screenshot
>>743337787War elemental also drops from the dragons.I'm assuming each element has a different one of those
>>743337706The addition of crossplay and the Switch 2 release will keep it active for longer, but with a mastery level 50 character Chaos and Chaos+ are absolute jokes, it's probably better that those players don't ruin the early quests for new players honestly.
>>743337787>>743337826>>743337465Its such a shame that an obvious bis sigil for summons is gonna be used by everyone for serious quests rather than summons being used for fun.Its hard enough to get the summon bar up in a match, especially online.
>>743337826Yoink. My screenshot now.
So how many completely new bosses did ER add besides the 3 new major bosses?
>>743337787>>743337826Thanks a lot anons
So I am trying to get the last of the achievements and I have no idea how the hell you are suppose to get 4 Calamity Auras in one run. I have only ever seen 2. Is there something specific I am missing to getting them to show up?
>>743337898I bring the summon that gives everyone a Revival Potion, because I've run into too many Fraux and Narmaya players that can't stop dying.
>>7433379326 but 2 of them are ajoke.Eternals, ironically the best fight but we dont have an infinity version.BeezlebubThe worldHexeThen the joke, fish and crab fights, but they are fun.Of course then there are remixes of fights and enemies having new mechanics and attack patterns.
>>743338016I've gotten 3 a couple times.Seems like it's just dumb luck and you gotta keep spamming
This bratty old man...
>>743338045All my way through chaos I was using the 1 slot summon that gives the team sup damage, expecting people understood I am using a 1 slot of they can get their summons out quicker, but the retards forget about summons and even SBA.After I finished all quests I thought fuck it and have just built the summons for a meta. I am using cat, its the only summon I get to use.
>>743338045Do you only get the benefit of one summon's sigil when you play online? Or do you mean your "primary" one shares and the rest all apply to you?
>>743337891Honestly, even early Chaos++ is pretty easy when a M50 Fediel and Cag join. I'm probably sticking with bots until the cancer quests
>>743338016>something specificI cant guarantee but you want to try and go for the quests that drop more summons and ideally the dexterity ones to get the wheel. Also buy summons.
Is this one of those tranny dps parsing games like FF14?
>>743338185You keep all of your summon's sigils when playing online, they don't apply to other players. The Primary one that you can use when playing with other people is just the one you can actually use in multiplayer, which is why I bring one to help keep retards from draining so much of the critical bar.
>>743338190>I'm probably sticking with bots until the cancer questsThis will be my plan desu.Atm I am on my 2nd character going through the ER quests but had to choose to level rackham 2nd so i can slime grind.When i get on my 4th character I will probably do all chaos an + with bots, maybe all chaos ++ until i get to the gold quests. I expect the gold quests and infinite are where the end game is. gold for farming summons and MSP, infinite for challenge and terminus materials.
>>743338116I don't play this gacha so I don't know the characters but if I ever manage to play this specific game it'll be just to main this damn mesugaki and any other loli too ngl.
To me alpha sigils are still meta just by giving the team 30% SBA.
>>743337898Lucilius absolutely fucks stuff up with his attacks.
>>743337787on that note, i dont know who said that you can only get 100% cap summons from infinity. I got this from my 1st chaos bubs clear.
For an AI Cagliostro, do I just go full healing tree?
Damage Cap
>>743337554WTF IS A QUICKENING PARRY
Why didn't slime 2 unlock for me? I'm already done with Chaos++
>>743338443Slot in the shield too, but that should be obvious.
>>743338426My assumption would be that lucy, bub, rolan and lilith sigils will all drop traits like WE and the echoes, just RNG. Probably have the highest cap too.
>>743338512The one that says its only 5% of max hp?
>>743338598Yes, it's actually 99,999 shields. I'm not shitting you.
>>743310836Also with 3 AI having alpha sigils you can get a free SBA.You slot alpha and loads of uplift and use it as soon as you get it, then they get their SBA faster, then use theirs and you get the alpha buffs, but its shit, cant do it as an option.
>>743337554Now you got me nervous that i'm not going to clear it anon.
>>743338057Two eternals is genuinely the best boss fight in the game. Feels amazing to play and the cutscenes are right
>>743324031>>743324347I am at over 4k now and that was includieng me fluching away all teh sigils under V+ to get space and max transmarvel for ER.I think i am gonna have to go on a mass synthesis spree.Shit like dam cap x2, improved dodge potion hoarder, stamina/tyranny even if they are obsolete. things that i know will go together.
>>743338902It is a brilliant fight, very little down time too unlike all the others with cutscenes in the middle. We should have got an infinity version of it.
>>743326679Conflux and chaos++I have never had so much centrums.I also had to sell exceptional refinum today Fucking joke I farmed like shit for both in base game.the 4 boss fight in chaos++ drops 40 centrums I think.
The only thing I know about Granblue Fantasy is this doujin.
>>743337554Weird, I had no issue clearing in timet. Fediel player
>>743339140bubs in conflux drops 40+ centrums if you chose it as the prize
>>743327972>>743328151I am a day one percy main and I also play rising, I knew they added this when i seen it uses the gap closer, which i always use anyway.I tried the nuke build, i like it and it is good for some bosses but others its too hard to get the 2 buffs up and because of that there is too much downtime not doing dps. Skill/schlatt rotation, now with RNG randoms kill cooldown is still much better.not even bothered trying the other style yet.
>>743337787So I guess these are the 4 summons that I want and to get sigils for something else
>>743339268You can get some as the reward from 3-5 I think. 3 is really easy/fast.
if you are using fediel your opinion doesn't matter
>>743328259He can get near infinite self explosions going on. I had a guy doing it in the C++ skeleton fight.
>>743328594I am mirroring you.I am a percy main and played all the DLC as percy now switched it up and am going through as rackham.
holy fuck my bots are too weak for conflux 4 mightve ignored them for too long
>>743331490>wiping 30 seconds into the fightTook me like 10 tries yesterday to get through it with pugs.i cant wait until I have a full AI team ready to go.
>>743339538rent a cag
Relink will be forever incomplete until we get a full Juutenshu boss trial.
>>743339269I want to try percy myself, what mastery tree(s) are good/fun?
>>743331468>Nobody is using them.I am still using them. I also switched from beta to alpha because that SBA gain is top tier and i run lots of uplift.Quicker team SBA, quicker lyria nuke, much more DPS, quicker quests.
>>743336060It's not used on any build
>>743337219LoL has Yordels.
Do you guys think they'll actually make a Relink sequel? Or do you think they'll just try making other stuff and abandon it?
Bros, I keep getting grabbed bub Bubz' balls
>>743339742Rentals don't work in Conflux.
>>743340150Block red dodge yellow. It really is that simple.
>>743340150block red dodge yellow
>>743340150I have no idea how to consistent avoid them
>>743339868it is though
>>743339753I dont know their names but out of the 3 it looks like only 2 are useful. Percy gameplay is skill/schlatt rotation so in base game he is sigil heavy needing skill cooldown/cascade, quick charge and stout heart on charge (steady focus) so that you dont ever get knocked out of charging which would ruin your rotation. Then you ideally also want drain to get that damage back.So his 1st new mastery enhances this gameplay and ultimately adds a level of RNG where your skills can insta come back from cooldown, allowing you to dump the semi mandatory cooldown sigils from his build. Assuming you dont whiff your schlatt and RNGesus favors you.2nk is the nuke, it relies upon a stack of buffs and when you have full stack you can use a skill that is a fucking nuke. Mega damage, but the issue is that every time you use a skill before you have the full buffs (which is 9 stack) you lose 1 stack, so as you could imagine, use skill lose a stack, use schlatt gain as tack, so the gameplay of skill/schlatt rotation doesnt work in this style.instead you gain 3- 6 stacks parrying, using a fast buff that buffs the team and a long wind up buff that buffs you (for 6 stacks)So you have the fast and long buff on, then you get 9 stacks, and use the 1 still that nukes, then you are stackless and only have 1 skill to use.Basically its a raw low dps build meant to be based around his 2 buffs (and the 1 debuff, I will explain) so that your overall dps is low but when you hit you hit super fucking hard.Thing is, you can whiff his skill making all this effort come to nothing. that is why he also has a debuff that slows the boss as well allowing you to make sure you dont whiff.The major issue is the long winding buff takes so long to use that unless the boss is in break or a phase you might not get it/get hit out.I think stout heart might be needed.The 3rd is based around parry and without increasing your ability to parry, which it doesn't in the tree, it seems rather useless.
>>743340348For fediel? I haven't seen it used
>>743340150To expand on this, red doesn't even require any kind of specific timing. You can just hold block when you see red orb. Yellow needs a little more deliberation since it has hit me between evades.
>>743340075>making other stuff and abandon itThey would be stupid not to but it seemed like the game took 10 years to make and it great but not great for a game 10 years in development.They will most likely not make a sequel. Even know sales are OK.
>>743315720Clueless retards who lack critical thinking are stacking base stat sigils for the 20-100% damage cap mastery even though it's purely spreadsheet theorycraft bullshit. 20% damage cap per sigil slot is fucking dogshit efficiency.
>>743340295>>743340301I still don't even know what this means is it after I've already been grabbed or is there something I can avoid before getting grabbed I've literally never noticed anything happening I just try my best
>>743339742is it bad to keep investing on vane rosetta bots?
>>743340403I'm using it
>>743308468If you're bad at controlling the three hit finisher or the boss moves around like a coked up monkey then don't use it against human-sized enemies. Just do the one hit finisher loop.
>>743340468It's 40% per sigil slot bub, absolutely worth doing since you want stun at the very least
>>743340480There are red or yellow orbs that track you that trigger than grab, Anon.
>>743340419Any idea on preemptive noticing if these orbs are coming to you?I can tell if he faces me they are coming my way but he uses them on a few of us at the same time, but not always everyone.
>>743311731Crit/Normal cap/Skill cap are ideal.
>>743340532So no one is using it on any real build
>>743340075I think they should make a sequel with Id as the protagonist. Captain and their usual close crewmates can all make appearances but keep them a bit separate from any narrative. I would like to see Id further develop his relationships with a few of the characters he becomes close with in the first game and do his own thing instead of just being another crew member.
>>743340468It's 40% per sigil. Plus you can also get 50k health doing the same thing if you wanted to go the other way.That is 200% dam cap. Well worth doing.FYI dam cap sigils x4 (and the 5 buff from terminus) is only 250% cap.
is linked together bad nowusing it for katalina
>>743340363What if I like the skill refresh gameplay? I like that one alot. Unless it's not viable.
>>743340606I just play it safe, though if he's not firing off four balls he's typically going to be facing in the general direction of who he's targetting.There's also a melee range grab that has both orbs but you just need to outrange it.
>>743340705>What if I like the skill refresh gameplayUse it then.It just enchances percy natural gameplan. Its what i am using.i used the nuke and like it and when I get round to making my AI team and go back to percy I will make meta builds based on all 3 styles but I prefer the rng natural skill/schlatt rotation gameplay.
>Chinese Fediel getting quintuple my honorsI'm having fun. But yikes.
>>743340480If you can't notice the balls you're way too focused on what you're doing. They're very clearly telegraphed. He stops doing everything and just stands there charging up very distinct glowing orbs for several seconds then throws them at you with relatively lengthy travel time. If you genuinely can't see them coming you haven't mastered your character enough to play them without thinking too hard.
>>743340703I think it's good personally, but it would be best if everyone on the team had itI'm running Drain instead because I am a monkey on the monkey bars that wants to ignore damage and press buttons
>>743340480dumb yuzu main
>maglielle's story is about a little girl named Blue that ends with her training to be a swordsman so she can use her dads sword.I cant believe they actually brought her back.
Im having fun using Flight over Fight im afraid itll turn me into a retard
>>743340773bib and lucy were the onluy ones on chaos ++ I didnt S++ yet.took me ages to find a team to get through him and even longer on infinity.I need an AI team because there are too many shitters who cant learn via trial by error.I already encountered him in the conflux and while I was still learning i had a lot of his mechs down.Now its only the orbs, noticing when i can be safe and not worry about them even know they are out.
>>743340662My build is pvp every run
>>743340834I play at 30fps on a steam deck I can't see a damn thing but it is also true I'm always staring at my hotbar (figuratively) because I swap my characters so much
>>743340886>2015man it really is crazy how this game exists. shit went through the final boss of development hell
>>743340971What's your build
>>743341028I was expecting nothing and was shocked at how well they delivered. I can't think of many games that turned out good after such long development.
>>743341028Yeah, pretty much a miracle it made it here.
>>743340850>I am a monkeyso am I anon>stout heart>drain>steel nerves
>>743340591>>743340694Doesn't matter. It's low efficiency. Damage Cap is 62.5% per slot. The new Celestial sigils worth using are 70% per slot. Fatebreaker is... what, 50% plus some other bonuses? Don't remember off the top of my head.With the amount of Damage Cap that is accessible now 40% per slot simply isn't worth it. The inflation is exactly why the old alphabet sigils are no longer worth using. The only possible way to realistically benefit from that mastery trait is if you're a god at the game or a shitter who will never take off assist mode. For everyone else you're better off squeezing in Nimble Onslaught/Defense for the extra invuln time allowing you to ignore more shit and focus on attacking. Target dummy theorycraft spreadsheets don't account for this which is why only retards take them as gospel.
>>743341229What's your build look like then Mr smart guy
>maxed Stinger has 30% Skill Dmg CapIs this good for skill spammers like Gallanza? I haven;t finished of Acension yet
>>743341229Oh, look, an honest-to-god retard.
>>743340886That's literally just Djeeta. If they want to do some Gran and Blue shit they can just rename the female noncharacter.
>>743341229idk the sigil amount yet because I have not bothered to build the meta, would have to synthesize and go out my way, but the 2ummons taking away WE and the 2 echoes is 6 slots, then damage can has 4 slots so you can easily syth stunx3 and 1 HP to damage cap. Then you are talking about fatebreaker and the celestial sigils, they are also on the build.The shit screenshot of it retardedly explains it. I cant be fucked to post it.its not really that much of a hit but i think it will depend on the character if they are sigil greedy or not.Main thing is though that stuff is used in ER instead of raw DPS for most of the DPS (stun) tests and maxxing your stun is actually beneficial anyway.I know it seems counter productive but min/maxing your gamins this is the OP way.
Oh I get it now; it really is FF14. Stand out of glowy AoE boss fights, learn your characters optimal rotation between boss phases and the spreadsheet autists who sit in front of a training dummy all day filming themselves instead of parsing on endgame fights. Lmao
>>743341482More PSO2 than FFXIV. XIV is a lot more choreographed, if you can believe it.
What are celestial sigils
>>743341482>spreadsheet autistsAnon that's literally every game that gains traction these days. If a game is popular enough it will be "solved" within days. The problem isn't entirely spreadsheet autists; it's retards who blindly listen to anything they say without thinking for themselves.Also it's really not all that similar to XIV in terms of boss design.
>>743341526Yeah I gotcha. Been forever since I played PSO2 but its a better comparison. FF14 is just fairly recent in my head.
wait mc miserable mist doesnt do -25% atk/def? they nerfed it from the gachahow good is the ai for as a debuffer?
>>743341542New sigils that drop in ER content. Six of them total I think.
>>743341482I'm not sure how you got that impression if you've truly played the game
>>743341542The new sigils in ER.They arent even really needed. There are 2 that you want to use, fatebreaker and lumen, they are basically substitues for stamina/tyranny.Then there are a few others that are situational or add extra damage to a build.Like there is a version of emnity, break assassin and overdrive assasin.
>>743341602Endless Ragnarok nerfed the atk up/def down values on a bunch of stuff since buffs and debuffs now have some cap bypass when they didn't before.I think AI danchou was pretty bad before but I haven't tried again in ER.
>>743341542Easiest way to explain it is they're powercrept versions of various existing sigils. You know Stamina? Celestial Lumen is basically that, with a damage cap slapped on as well. Celestial Terra is Tyranny except it's damage cap. They're all damage cap and usually something from an existing sigil.
Those Fediel/Charlotta/Io MVPs in Infinity are only possible by maximizing your damage cap with basic-stat sigils. You'd know that if you actually played the game. If you aren't playing a top-tier DPS, does it even matter what build you use? You might as well just sit back, watch, and AFK.
>>743341631>>743341643>>743341693Oh that makes sense, thanks bros
>>743341640Because at its core I am learning to keep character damage uptime against bosses and the glowy AoE dont stand here attacks crack my ass up. Speaking of cracks yeah I am playing it, pirated both the OG and ER.
>>74334046880% cap and 32 levels of stun for two is worth it.Anything else is excessive because the other basic sigils are garbage. No clue why people started adding more
>>743341205Regen and the other Regen heals more than drain now surprisingly.
>>743341465Anon I know which image you're talking about which is why I know it's not actually very good unless, as you said, you happen to be playing a character who doesn't need a ton of sigil slots. Maglielle for example I could see it working on because she does not give a fuck about any cooldown reduction sigils and only her Warpath character sigil is worth using because her Awakening sigil gives cooldown reduction(effectively a dead stat for her skill damage build) and 10% damage cap which is horrible.
>>743341735I say they arent really needed but they are ideal to have Fatebreaker especially. Ultimately they increase your overall cap, pwr in sigil form.like base game, its smart to only build meta builds for quests you can nuke, harder quests build for survival.
>>743341737What were you expecting instead exactly?
>>743341742>No clue why people started adding moreBecause its meta, there are limited sources of damage cap and this is the most economical, as well as spending 2 master traits around it which are also limited means you should get the most out of it.Free 200% cap is not something to waste just because you dont want to build around it.
>>743341920>spending 2 master traits around it which are also limitedHow many characters actually have enough usable traits in EX where taking the second damage cap trait is an actual cost?
>>743341920>literally "but number bigger" grug mentality
>>743340798What sigils are good for him if I go the skill route?
>>743341908Originally? A completely different game than we got. 7 years of development hell later? Looked like Musou. Instead I got some weird hybrid game with MMO raid bosses and DDR floors. Its fine for what it is or whatever they were going for. Definitely see why it was in dev hell and reworked.
which one for Fediel? Looking to swap a regular damage cap for one of these
>>743341815I main percy and he is sigil hungry. Sure in quests I know I could take away guts and auto revive but even then there are shit like cooldown and cascade that would serve me better.fortunately I have (percy has) a rather high stun anyway and that is what you need in ER.When i finally get the echoes and WE on summons, and even stout heart, that is gonna give me 7 sigil slots on percy and that would be more than enough to slot the other celestials and stun sigils. As I already have 2 of them slotted.>>743342034Not sure, i have literlaly only looked at 2 characters mastery so far. on my 2nd character now.i'll be going through them 1 by one.No point in filling my head with idle information about their builds if I am not playing themThough from what it seems, these more cap/health on what sigil slotted and + cap on having a debuff on you (retarded shit) are universal for all builds.right ow doeing rackham, not got to his EX yet but his traits all seem shit. + atk, when of course I will be hitting cap so I will have plenty of room for this shit.rackham is not sigil heavy at all though. only extra sigil he wants that other chars dont have is quick charge and even then you can survive without it.my rackham didnt even have improved dodge until today because ER quests really need you to dodge more than base game quests.
Anyone know how to look up other players' sigil builds?Just played with an Io named HP:1 and I want to see what they were running.
>>743341602AI danchou's issue is that he'll always use his skills whenever it comes off cooldown regardless of arts level. Insight sorta fixes it with locking arts level to a minimum of 2, a universal node that lets him get 2 arts level instead of 1, and the rank 3 that lets him prolong arts level 4 with full charge power raises. His other issue is damage and technically his crux path fixes that with a theoretical 80% dmg boost + 20% supp damage but the AI might get himself killed especially if other AI have stout heart. He's better in ER and passable to an extent but you can really only solve 1 of his 2 problems and there's probably a better choice than him
>>743342237Not after leaving the fight. Unless it was an instanced lobby.It would have been a Nyx leyline with zero hp specced.Yoda/Cag are it's friend
>>743342120Other than the usual sigils he needs quick charge and steady focus. Just put them on the same sigil.Nimble onslaught/defenceI suggest for any of melee character you get the potent greens/supV sigil from the side quest. I always use it on percy, my main, because he is always in the face of enemies trying to parry so always eating aoe debuffs.Only 1 of those sigils in the game. Potent greens is not normally a 2 slot sigil (I think)
What mastery tree are you guys using for AI Eugen?
Here's the math:>More damage = the boss dies faster.>Less damage = longer fights = a higher chance of dying.Dying once or twice doesn't matter. You get 4 revives with Lv. 15 Potion Hoarder and Lv. 15 Auto Revive. If you want to play it even safer, you can use Guts for an extra failsafe. If all four people in your party are good, the boss will spend half the fight staggered by SBAs or link time. Before you know it, it'll already be dead. Simple as that. Honestly, I wonder if the shitters trying to push HP maxing have even cleared Infinity Hexa.
>>743340885>>743340480DOKO
>>743342404>AI EugenDont quote me on this and my eugen is still just build as meta for killing lucy in base game but i have been using him and cag meta builds from base game as AI in conflux and I see eugen just fuck up lots, especially on the wave arenas. he gets swarmed by mook enemies.Might be just an issue he has with mook enemies but i was thinking maybe his AI is nerfed or just shot. i never see him through a grenade.
>>743341667who else can stack def down?
>>743314972>>743315002>>743319384>Just don't get hit in the first placevery original, very funny
>>743342379Well then this man was a legend because our instance had no supports whatsoever.Simply knew Bubs' fight in and out. Had something on that resisted pull mechanics, casually walked towards the exact safe spots, even dropped healing circles on teammates who needed them.
>>743314681I don't recall this ever happening. What are you talking about specifically? If you're getting wombo combo'd you're most likely failing a mechanic which is meant to punish you with death(see this frequently on Beelzebub) or you're just getting hit a lot in general resulting in eventually getting stunned which leads to multiple hits.
>>743342452>push HP maxingWhat do you mean?If you mena the HP in the meta build its because of only 3 stun sigils before max stun and crit etc is useless.if you mean HP maxxing trying to get most you can its a viable build option, full tank build.Sure you are not getting S+++ on the quests but you can slog anything along like that, especially with guts, auto, potion hoarder and 3 fucking healers.I build my captain like that as much health as I can. i stacked him to max health in base game and when i come around to building him in this I will do the same, full health and defence sigils being a full on support build.
I just had a quest fail pop up for Infinity Six. No one died though, what the fuck happened? There's no other fail state listed anywhere.
>>743342672>What do you mean?I think he's referring to people playing 400k HP builds instead of under 200k Terminus builds.
>>743342676failed the dps check or timed out?
>>74334282740%HP and it was the triple elemental phase. I saw everyone else hit next too. I'm lost, it was such a smooth run too for my first clear.
>>743324031Start building other characters.
>>743342546Essence Io>>743342631>healingAh, then the cag isn't necessary then.I'm not confident enough to play it online, but the damage is BEEG when it works
>>743340421i'd argue it is great for a game that spent 10 years in development since most games that are are fucking terrible
>>743343104It was BEEG enough that he out-mpv'd our Fediel.
Yup, it's Bea time.
>99,999,999vanegods i kneel
>>743343534vane against the world in these clips always seems like the greatest thing ever
Started playing grub because of Charlotta, really nice she is in both Relink and Versus
>>743344557Charlotta is the gateway harvinYour true destination is Nio
>Ruria turns evil>Immediately puts on shoesWhat did they mean by this?
