Genuine question, if Ganon is always reborn every hundred years or so, as the only male in the Gerudo, why don't they just kill him as a baby? And if they aren't willing to do that, why doesn't Hyrule just genocide all Gerudo so Ganon won't be born again?
>>743287809>why don't they justFUCK YOU, I WISH EVERYONE WHO SAYS THOSE FOUR WORDS WOULD IMMEDIATELY DROP DEAD
1. Because he's their king. 2. It would not be easy for the hylians to kill the gerudo, nor would they want to.3. Fate and the curse of demise.
>>743287842Why don't you just calm down?
>>743287809Why didn't they just leave the Gerudo's ears alone and not make them into just a shitskin variant of hylian? Especially after introducing shitskin hylians.
>>743287887>1. Because he's their king.are Gerudo evil? do any of them like ganon
>>743287887>1. Because he's their kingSo they should be considered as enemies, which lead to>2. It would not be easy for the hylians to kill the gerudo, nor would they want to. Why not, there's not that many of them, in fact given how they reproduce, all it would take is for Hylian men to stop having relationships with them. Now that I think about it, Ganon's father is always a Hylian. >Fate and the curse of demiseWhy not try to break free from fate?
>>743287906BECAUSE I AM FUCKING SICK AND TIRED OF SEEING PEOPLE ASK THE SAME TIRED OLD FUCKING QUESTION OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN WHEN YOU ALREADY KNOW THE FUCKING ANSWER: IF THEY JUST DO X THEN THERE'S NO PLOT. IF YOU CAN'T STOP WHY-DON'T-THEY-JUSTING EVERY FUCKING PLOT INTO OBLIVION THEN YOU NEED TO ACCEPT THAT FICTION ISN'T FOR YOU. IT'S FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN ACTUALLY ENJOY A STORY WITHOUT AUTISTICALLY NITPICKING IT UNTIL IT FALLS APART.
>>743287913They're starting to assimilate due to generations of crossbreeding with Hylians.
it may be possible that ganondorf's birth is foreseen and he is protected, but putting that aside, has it even been stated that every male gerudo will be ganondorf? what if there are other gerudo kings born
>>743288026Why don't they just fly on the eagles though?
>>743288026If the entire plot can be resolved by a shrimple solution then it's a pretty flawed plot, no?
>>743287809Here is a better question for you: why don't gerudo simply have sex with me?
When Ganon isn't born, where does the triforce of power reside?
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>>743288090THEN WHY EVEN BOTHER? WHY NOT JUST READ A MATH TEXTBOOK INSTEAD? YOU'D BE A LOT HAPPIER. IT'S PURE LOGIC AND THERE'S NO NARRATIVE TO TRIGGER YOUR AUTISMS BY NOT BEING IMMEDIATELY RESOLVED BEFORE YOU EVEN OPEN THE BOOK.
>>743288137Well if you think about it, 6 is almost like 9
>>743287809>if Ganon is always reborn every hundred years or so, as the only male in the Gerudo,He isn't.
>>743287809A gerudo male is born every hundred years, Ganon is just lucky enough to get raised by witches so he's got dark magic and the triforce going for him. Even if they do kill him he can be revived as seen in the oracle games. If you do somehow manage to fully get rid of him that doesn't solve Hyrule's problems because they're permafucked by the Demise shit, some nigga like Vaati or whatever the next monster of the week will show up and ruin everything again.
>>743288217I'm not a loremaster. Are there non-ganon males? What happens with them?
>>743287842>>743288026>>743288176It's almost as if this fictional story doesn't make any sense and is fucking stupid garbage. Why is this so hard for you to admit, I do not know. Touch grass. And before you seethe any further, real life make much more sense and should be al guide on what is stupid and what's not.
>>743288272Why do the Goddesses allow evil to exist?
>>743287809A male Gerudo is born every 100 years, that doesn't mean Ganondorf is. Ganondorf as far as we know is the only time we know of that the "Gerodo King" embodied the ultimate evil.
>>743288026>IF THEY JUST DO X THEN THERE'S NO PLOT.If you have a story that depends entirely on characters being retarded, you have a shit story.
>>743287809Ganon coming back has nothing to do with the Gerudo. He's just an immortal spirit of malice and calamity. Him coming back has to be done through ritual, which is the focus of several games if you bothered to actually play them. The only reason he was a Gerudo is because the witches Kotake and Koume specifically did the resurrection ritual to have him be born as the Gerudo King, likely because of the immense and easily access power and prestige without conquest or raising suspicion that it'd grant him in that era.The people who resurrect him could choose any mortal shell of any race if you wanted--or quite often none at all, given how often Ganon comes back in pure demonic form. The only reason he has such a large association with the Gerudo is because that specific mortal form, Ganondorf, is the same fucking one from OoT but appearing across different timelines. The only thing that really causes issues with this is that the Compendium says Ganondorf is a Gerudo in TOTK, but it's weird because Gerudos of the Wild and earlier are shown to have pointed ears, which TOTK Ganondorf lacks
>>743288301they just live normally which is why we don't hear about them
>>743288176Because willing ignoring an easy fix to the main problem makes makes the main characters look dumb, which can sometimes actually be relevant or a plot point, but if it isnt then it weakens the overall narrative and distances the reader from the characters in the story. If you have glaring plot holes or ignore easy solutions to the problem without sufficient justification, then it turns into a "just turn your brain off bro" tier problem.
>>743288090the problem with this is that you are oversimplifying matters and also demanding definitive answers to questions that could have any number of explanations. questions that are intentionally left open because they don't need to be explicitly stated. the real issue with people like you trying to undermine plots is that you are always misunderstanding things, never paying attention, and you sorely lack imagination. you, as the player, know everything there is to know about a game world and can summarize everything from a high viewpoint, but you have no concept of time or what daily life is. that's why you think "just kill baby ganon whenever he is born" is such a trivial solution. you can't picture how the people in that time and place would feel about it, let alone if they could even know about such legend. you take everything for granted. you'll say turn your brain off but you never could use it to begin with.
>>743288462>The only reason he was a Gerudo is because the witches Kotake and Koume specifically did the resurrection ritual to have him be born as the Gerudo King, likely because of the immense and easily access power and prestige without conquest or raising suspicion that it'd grant him in that era.What is this headcanon lmao
Current people in thread>angry anon>a 6 year old, asking why not on loop>a fedora lord who blames everything on god>some stormfront/fed on the verge of asking why dont we just nuke the Gerudo tribes, because they keep causing problems >possibly me and 2 othersMy fucking sidesI havent seen anger this good in a while.
>>743288513You fucking moron. Go actually play OoT and the Oracle games.
>>743288336BUT YOU MOTHERFUCKERS DO THIS WITH EVERY. DAMN. STORY. NO MATTER HOW WELL WRITTEN IT IS THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEONE LIKE YOU ASKING "BuT WhY DiDn't tHe tHe cHaRaCtErS JuSt pReVeNt eVeRyThInG FrOm hApPeNiNg iN ThE FiRsT PlAcE?" THERE CAN'T BE ANY FUCKING KIND OF COMPREHENSIBLE NARRATIVE IF YOUR CHARACTERS ARE ALL PERFECT BEINGS OF PURE LOGIC THAT ALWAYS TAKE THE MOST OPTIMAL COURSE OF ACTION, BUT THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT YOU WANT ALL FICTIONAL CHARACTERS TO BE. YOU WANT EVERY FUCKING STORY TO BE FIVE FUCKING SECONDS LONG BECAUSE THE BEGINNING WOULD JUST BE "HEY, WANNA GO ON A WHIMSICAL ADVENTURE WITH A CAST OF LOVABLE CHARACTERS TO SAVE THE WORLD?" "FROM WHAT?" "OH SHIT THAT'S RIGHT, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS TO SOLVE BECAUSE THAT WOULD MAKE THE SMALL MINORITY OF TERMINAL AUTISTS UPSET, ROLL THE CREDITS!" WOULD THAT REALLY MAKE YOU HAPPY?
Why don't the Gerudo collectively decide to give up dick so Ganon can't be born anymore.Sure, it'll mean the death of their race, but it's like, noble and shit. You'd be doing the world a favour.
>>743288374funny prank lol
>>743288523>why dont we just nuke the Gerudo tribes, because they keep causing problemsBecause they keep yelling ANTIGERUDISM every time Hylians try solving the problem.Wait, I think I see why the problem hasn't been solved yet.
>>743288472No way, how would people be sure they aren't Ganon? I imagine everyone would be scared of them even if they aren't evil.
>>743288605>give up dick so that *Ganondorf can't be born anymore>Ganon comes back anyways like he's done multiple times>genocided yourselves for nothing
>>743288434YOU KNOW WANT, FUCK YOU, YOU WIN. THERE WON'T BE ANY VILLAINS IN THE NEXT ZELDA GAME BECAUSE ALL OF THEIR GREAT-GRANDFATHERS WERE ASSASSINATED BY TIME-TRAVELING AUTISTS. LINK JUST SPENDS THE WHOLE GAME SITTING ON HIS ASS IN HIS HOUSE AND BINGING NETFLIX. THERE'S NO POINT IN GOING THROUGH A DOZEN DUNGEONS OF PUZZLES AND BOSS BATTLES TO COLLECT A BUNCH OF MAGICAL DOODADS AND THE MASTER SWORD BECAUSE THERE'S NO ULTIMATE EVIL TO USE THAT FUCKING SWORD ON. SIXTY HOURS OF "PRESS A TO WATCH ANOTHER EPISODE OF SQUID GAME". THAT'S THE FUCKING GAME YOU WANT.
Why did Midna shatter the mirror when she just said we'd see each other again one day
>>743287809Not every gerudo is evilThey are also big brown sexo
>>743288523Those are all me, I also made this post, which I'm replying to now.
>>743288875*YOU KNOW WHATTHIS SHIT IS MAKING ME SO ANGRY THAT I AM LITERALLY LOSING MY ABILITY TO SPELL. THAT'S HOW FUCKING ANNOYED I AM.
>>743288909Why did she shatter the mirror when Hyrule is destined to keep collapsing anyways? She's not going to prevent anything, except blueballing Link.
Why didn't Zelda leave the castle in twilight Princess? Why did all the citizens of the kingdom ignore all the shit that was happening, including the whack ass crystal prison surrounding the castle?
Link and Zelda won't have a Gerudo husband otherwise
>>743288875I don't even care if this is genuine rage or just bait. It's 10/10 either way.
Why don't the Hyleans just breed all the Zora's to create an entire generation of off-spring with gills that can survive under water and avoid Ganon's rebirth entirely?
>>743289179Why don't we just nuke India irl?
>>743289260Every time Link is about to breed his Zora wife, she ends up getting killed... Maybe you are onto something, someone is trying to prevent this from happening.
>>743288571That did not happen bro.
>>743289421OoT and Oracle didn't happen?
>>743287809Flawed premise. There's no rule that every Gerudo male becomes Ganondorf. Ganondorf was a particular outlier and he is reborn through the power of the Triforce of Power.
>>743289632To every male gerudoThere was not a single instance where this wasn't the case
>>743288374What, do you think the goddesses are solely good? Din cares about power and nothing else. Good and evil has no meaning to her.
>>743288805One of them was Link's dad
>>743289769How about 100 years before Ocarina of Time, and every 100 years before that, because nobody was Ganondorf before Ganondorf?
>>743287842>People who use "why don't they just"Why don't they just drop dead
Imagine if every 100 years Germans birthed a Hitler and you knew it was a Hitler because the baby would have a mustache. Do you think realistically they would let that baby live? Do you think the rest of Europe would let that baby live?
>>743290010They are still calling everyone a nazi, so no
>>743287809>attempt gerudo genocide>a single pregnant gerudo escapes because circumstance/prophecy/mercy/whatever>gives birth to a son>son grows up to become powerful but also evil because his fucking people was genocided and it's supposedly his fault>fucks everything up because he's got a goddamn motive to do soYou usually meet your destiny on the road you take to avoid it.
>>743289810What? Really.
>>743290147>you leave them alone>that one male gerudo turns evil every single time regardless Ok... what now?
>>743289829No, those were Ganon too. they just never acquired the godlike powers of the triforce, so they lived normal length lives and died before being reborn, in roughly 100 year cycles.
>>743289218IT'S GENUINE RAGE. FEW THINGS PISS ME OFF MORE THAN SOMEONE WHO CAN'T STOP ASKING THE SAME QUESTION WHEN THEY ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER.
>>743290285Cite your evidence for this.
>>743290496the evidence is that by BotW a male gerudo hasn't been born in Millennia, because OoT Ganon never truly died.
>>743290578How is this guy not dying, but link and zelda are?
>>743290709Triforce of Power is just a dick like that, also once he's sealed away he can't really die or he wouldn't be "sealed".
>>743290838The triforce of Power is like "The winged Dragon of Ra: anime version", huh?
>>743290949well its not called the triforce of "doing fucking nothing" like the other two are for a reason.
>>>/vp/
>>743290010How flexible is the 100 year rule anyway? Like, is it after 100 years of births, Ganon is born. Or on the 100th year after Hilter died, Hitler can be reborn if a German has a baby?Why don't the Germans just get all the kids out by year 98, then take 2 years off from fucking.
>>743287809Urbosa is so fucking sexy
>Funk hasn't posted anything in years and is probably dead:-(
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>>743287809>if Ganon is always reborn every hundred years or so, as the only male in the GerudoThis is retarded. Ganon link and zelda are all reborn together as part of a cycle. Thats not every 100 years. Male gerudos are born every 100 years. The zelda stories are spread out really far. Far enough for link to just be remembered as a legendary hero and not a hero that died 20 years ago. Imagine if zelda lived to be 100. She would have to give birth to herself according to your logic.
>>743287809>if Ganon is always reborn every hundred years or so, as the only male in the Gerudo, why don't they just kill him as a baby?Because he wasn't some evil creature that is reincarnated because of a curse, that's a later retcon. He was just the latest individual in a long history of Gerudo kings.It's like asking "Why didn't the Welsh just kill King Arthur??", you faggot retard.Also they retconned the one male every 100 years thing in BOTW for this tranny scene.
>>743287913NuZelda is basically a soft reboot of the franchise.
>>743288000>Now that I think about it, Ganon's father is always a Hylian.Isn't it more likely that it's a Jesus situation?
Okay, but why doesn't Hyrule betray and lock Ganon in the hyper-sonic time mirror for a millennia?
>>743292363unreliable He always finds a way to escape
The Gerudo are intrinsically Yin and feminine. Destruction, darkness, and the cold. Literally the black or brown in this case to the Hylian light. But they have to be bred by Hylian men to even reproduce. It's really more like a celestial curse of somekind as Hylians reproduce amongst themselves but do still fuck Gerudo whores just becausw they can, like all men should.One could say they're a race of demons and their lack of males with one reincarnating super demon man is a sign of them not being human in origin whatsoever.
>>743292363>>743292657wait a minuteis ganon goku?
>>743290709Link and Zelda also keep getting reincarnated with the power of the triforce, the same goes for tingle and other recurring named characters. In the end, nothing happens in Hyrule.
The average gerudo is a rapist groomer, so they should all be genocided regardless of Ganon.
Why doesn't someone just wish infertility upon the entire Gerudo race via the triforce?That solves like, the entire issue.
>>743293173So, demise's words at the end had no meaning whatsoever since the triforce granted them to be reincarnated?
>>743293338That's just a slower way of genocide. You are still killing gerudo through that method
>>743293340look, nintendo doesn't actually give a shit about the lore and disregards it whenever they need a new gamedo you think botw Zelda was always a fucking dragon?
>>743293405Sure, but I get plausible deniability then. No one can prove it was I that genocided the gerudo as a race 100 years from now.
>>743291893The sages are such wasted characters, can Zelda stop trying to redo oot every game?
>>743293450TotK truly had no right to exist
>>743292263Is that actually a gerudo?
>>743293450>>743293525>everyone forgot link saved the world like two months ago
>>743292363WHY DOESN'T LINK JUST USE THE TRIFORCE TO WISH THAT NOTHING BAD EVER HAPPENS AGAIN? BECAUSE THEN THERE WOULD BE NOTHING TO MAKE A GAME ABOUT. YOU REALLY WANT EVERY ZELDA GAME TO BE LINK JUST SITTING ON HIS ASS AND DOING NOTHING, DON'T YOU?
>>743293815Logically speaking, if the triforce can grant you that wish, you should do that.Don't write yourself in a corner by doing this shit if you want to milk it forever
>>743293905FINE, HAVE IT YOUR WAY. EVERY GAME WILL ONLY BE FIVE SECONDS LONG FROM NOW ON, BECAUSE THE HEROES RETROACTIVELY ERASED THE VILLAINS AND EVERY POSSIBLE PROBLEM FROM EXISTENCE BEFORE THE GAME EVEN STARTED. THAT'LL BE EIGHTY FUCKING BUCKS.
>>743287887>It would not be easy for the hylians to kill the gerudoUnironically why? It would be pretty trivial to genocide them if they wanted. The issue is they don't for some reason.
>>743293993TotK was already riddled with plotholes and people called it out and were upset.If you write a story, it had to make sense.
>>743287809>why doesn't Hyrule just genocide all Gerudo so Ganon won't be born again?they did in twilight princess and also presumably in the WW timeline since they aren't there either
>>743294184They aren't in WW because browns can't swim and they all drowned.
>>743294238yeah so the goddesses genocided them
fpbpYour gay thought experiments are shallow and you need to eat shit.
>>743294286Only by accident rather than intentionally, which doesn't count as REAL genocide.
>Franchise proves that genocide is the solution to the Ganon problem>NOOOOOO, YOU CAN'T GENOCIDE THE SAND PEOPLE.
>>743294286Why are the goddesses such assholes?>we drown this whole place to seal ganondorf>we are the gods of creation and could evaporate ganondorf if we wished to, but nah... have fun swimming
>>743294139OKAY, BUT IN MY REVISED PERFECTLY LOGICAL EDITION OF TOTK, LINK JUST PULLS OUT A MAGIC PLOT GUN AND KILLS GANONDORF AT THE START OF THE FUCKING GAME AND THEN THAT'S IT, THE CREDITS ROLL. IN FACT, THAT DOESN'T EVEN HAPPEN BECAUSE LINK AND ZELDA JUST DIDN'T GO POKING AROUND UNDER HYRULE CASTLE. THERE ISN'T EVEN A GAME CARD IN THE FUCKING CASE BECAUSE THERE ISN'T A GAME TO PLAY. LOOKS LIKE SONY HAD THE RIGHT IDEA ALL ALONG, THEY JUST DID IT FOR THE WRONG REASONS.
>>743294238There are gerudo pirates in mm, they can probably swim.
>>743288026
>>743288374The goddesses of the Zelda universe are amoral as such they are frankly more evil than Ganondorf their idea of rescuing their loyal followers during Windwaker is......drown the majority of the population and not even Farore who gave birth to the living creatures objected.And when you think about it further Zelda herself aka Hylia is the most evil one of the bunch. Hylia reincarnated long before Demise initiated his Reincarnation Curse so basically Hylia/Zelda knows about how much Demise's curse relies on her arrogant desire to always eternally reincarnate and her conclusion is "Meh I'll continue reincarnating not caring if it negatively impacts the innocent denizens of Hyrule" and the reason Hylia does this is because depending on the timeline she can choose to reincarnate certain familiar characters like Malon, Beetle the salesman, the mailman, etc. all the while presenting herself as virtuous and good.To the goddesses of the Zelda franchise the whole universe of this franchise is their playground and Link is their loyal useful idiot tool whom they use to reset their play time by getting rid of evil doers and then starting the cycle all over again.
>>743294651HE LOOKS LIKE HE'S ABOUT TO WHY-DON'T-THEY-JUST FOR THE SEVENTEENTH TIME THIS MORNING
>>743294643Tetra isn't gerudo, she is 100% pure blooded hylian.
Very mature of you to be critical of a fucking video games for children of all things.
>>743294675Maybe they are just bored and want to see some action.Like how people get bored if the game isn't entertaining enough, so they come up with their own set of rules
>>743294706Why is she brown then?
>>743294801IF THEY'RE BORED WHY DON'T THEY JUST MAKE ENDLESS WHY-DON'T-THEY-JUSTING THREADS ON 4CHAN? IT WORKS GREAT FOR THESE MOTHERFUCKERS!
>>743293559No.
Why doesn't Zelda just use the tri-force to wish that all Hylians grew wings and fly way above where the Garudo could reach?
>>743294830the sun
>>743294830It's a disguise, she is zelda wearing shoe polish.
The male gerudo isn't always ganon, that just happened one time. >>743287925No they just have a king and like him like the hylians and all other peoples, why do you accuse them of being evil when OP is literally advocating preemptive genocide.
>>743287842>>743288026>>743288176>>743288584>>743288875>>743293815>>743294424>>743294843Why don't you just stop anon, rageposting isn't healthy.
>>743294675Honestly the fact Nintendo showed the goddesses doing wicked things but they aren't antagonized in the story by the heroes makes it clear that Link will never rebel against those bitches. There's no reason to care about the Zelda franchise. Say what you will but seeing the Zelda franchise actually makes me appreciate RPG stories where the heroes kill God. Gods that make lives of mortals unpleasant deserve to be destroyed.
>>743295070ARE YOU GOING TO STOP ASKING THAT ASININE QUESTION THAT YOU ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER TO?
>>743295148Then you play capcom zelda and their human counterparts are actually pretty nice
>>743288523I, too, am in this thread
>>743287809because then there would be no game it's like asking why didn't frodo just drop the ring into the mariana trench because then there wouldn't be a story
>>743287809infanticide is wrong
>>743288875does hyrule even have tv? and who is filming content for hyrule netflix? so dumb.why dont you just say he spends the whole game fishing? he already canonically does that.
Why doesn't Ganon just undermine Hyrule by promising Hylean men a loving Gerudo wife?
>>743287809if you kill him, he may be reborn as a different male baby nine months later to a woman not willing to do so. letting the baby live ensures you keep an eye on the future king
Wasn't there another Gerudo male in one of the older Zelda 2D games. Some general guy. Don't remember his name.
>>743294104are you some kinda faggot?
>>743298864Because the Zora women would genocide the Gerudo at the first hint of that happening.
>>743287809I'm gonna be honest, I've played most zelder games and this is the first time I've heard thisbut anyway, who gives a fuck really
>reincarnates every few hundred years>gets to be born into a harem of free pussy who'll do whatever he wants >doesn't fuck any of them and instead choses to become theif who gets his ass beat by a twink every single time This literally generational levels of faggotry right here.
>>743287809Because Ganon returning to face the other two wielders of the Triforce isn't just some magical occurence, it's a literal divine rule inflicted on reality. Ganon will always return because there is always animosity towards Ganon, thereby perpetuating the will of Demise against the reincarnations of Link and Zelda(Hylia).You could even look at the opposite; There will alwags be a Link and a Zelda every 100 years. Why don't the Gerudo loyal to Ganon just kill those two as babies? Because they literally aren't allowed to by reality.TLOZ is a a cosmic cycle of two dead Gods willing themselves back to life every 100 years to rehash their conflict. It's why the world gets so fucked up in BOTW and TOTK; by sealing Ganondorf away for so long it tipped the cosmic scales out of balance which eventually had to be 'corrected' with Hyrule's destruction to allow Ganondorf to be freed and let the divine course of action play out.
How about we shake up the formula to fuck with people?>Gerudo Link is born>Hylian Ganon is born>G.Link now needs to stop H.Ganon from fucking up since he has the might of Hylia on his side this time>Lesbian twin Gerudo Goddesses are equally as confused on what the fuck happened this time>Zelda continues to wear spats and now has a gun
>>743287809Ganon being reborn only happens if he previously died. He only dies like actually 3 times in the entire franchise. Any 100 years that he didn't die in, some other baby becomes king, or no other bay males are born.
>>743288000>all it would take is for Hylian men to stop having relationships with themYou're saying that healthy, red-blooded Hylian men need to not have sex with the 7ft tall mocha muscle mommies?
>>743294706>there are gerudo pirates in majora's mask>tetra isn't a gerudo??? Did you reply to the wrong post?
>>743307170Aren't there some Gerudo pirates in phantom hourglass?
>>743287809If only we had some historic precedent we could refer to, that could help us understand why invading a tribal society in a mountainous desert region could end poorly.
>>743287809Humanity forgot the horrors of the Holocaust in less than a hundred years, most Hylians probably don't believe Ganondorf existed by the time the next century rolls around.
>gerudo thread>not a single Riju post
>>743295148>RPG stories where the heroes kill God. Gods that make lives of mortals unpleasant deserve to be destroyed.good examples in gaming?
>>743290010Israeli mossad would assassinate the baby
I just want Ganondorf to not be evil and to be a benevolent ruler among his people. One game where he isn't the villain, and maybe becomes a supporting protagonist to stop the actual villain.
