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RIGHT! NOW!
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What's that? A Canadian RPG?
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>>743288810
Underrail
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Colony Ship
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>CRPG
My nigga, stop vagueposting. CRPG is a meme term.
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>>743288810
Just get the Imoen romance mod.
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>>743288810
Knights of the Chalice 2
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>>743288810
Owcat's games are great. Start with Pathfinder Kingmaker, they only get better
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>exploration so shit they put in a dedicated keypress for highlighting points of interest
>combat so shit they turned it into an rts with a dedicated keypress for ez mode
still gonna play it annually though
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>>743291181
This. Download Kingdom Resolution though, and change the settings for events so that you have a 100% chance to succeed, instead of having it be based on RNG. And if you hate the timed aspect of Kingdom Management, then you can change all events to take 1 day to complete instead of 15 or 30. Changing both of those settings will make the game 2x better imo.
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>>743288810
ATOM RPG and Trudograd
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>>743291975
Swordhaven too.
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>>743288810
The only good CRPG is Baldur's Gate.
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play some fucking goldbox games
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>>743288810
Best I've got is hunter and the black geyser dlc.
Kult, lionheart, Hunter are lesser known crpg.
>>743291168
Ugly.
>>743291181
Km is soul jank, rest is crap.
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>>743292423
Still no console...
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>>743289096
This.
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>>743288810
Wrath of the righteous if you want fantasy kino or rogue trader if you want space fantasy kino
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>>743288810
>I WANT A GOOD CRPG RECOMMENDATION!
Here. The ULTIMATE list of cRPGs for U! Most of those games are from 50 to 500 hours long depending if you like replaying with different builds.
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>>743293310
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>>743293310
Big expectations for solasta 2. Hope for an editor or some stressfree way to make custom content.
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>>743288810
Pillars of Eternity
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>>743293641
Could've been a great successor for bg2, but cuckifornia is lame, those upside down pineapple enjoyer. Iykyk.
>op is a fag
As usual, but he might want to try out the new story mod for bg2. 100 quests and much more
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>>743293641
PoE is ass. People who suggest it have horrible taste in games.
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>>743288810
Pillars of Eternity, it's unironically great
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>>743288810
>GOOD CRPG
contradiction in terms
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>>743290839
it just means AD&D (-derived) garbage
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>>743288810
>please let me contaminate your IPs!!!
No, thank you. Still, you can taint what other anons are suggesting.
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>>743293443
I hope it comes to GOG. I stopped buying on Steam a long time ago and would like to buy it if its good.
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>Pillars 1
played it on release. started okay, and durance was the best character in the game, but the game wasn't good enough to dethrone BG. towns/cities were empty, the self inserts were horrible, loading times were bad. Durance and Eder were not good enough to rate it as a good game.

>Shadowrun Dragonfall
from start to finish, mediocre. the characters were bland, this troll woman kept blaming you for the death of her crush or whatever even though everyone kept pointing out how it wasn't your fault, absolutely bad character development. the only good companion was that bald guy, and i only remember that one mecha troll quest vaguely

>DOS2
mechanically, the game is gold. all its mechanics were a direct response to all criticisms of the first game. the redhead is a good romance, and she had a well written arc. shame how larian concentrated on polishing the first act though, because act 3 and 4, was just okay, and the ending really sucked

>DOS1
it was fun and whimsical, but unpolished. voice acting varied wildly in quality. unlike in 2, i can carry lots of crates and build a wall between me and my enemies, making for truly creative fun, thus, easily exploitable. loved the ice castle level
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>>743296076
>from start to finish, mediocre
which was still a significant step above the other DF games
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>>743296124
*SR
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>>743293641
I tried it 3 times, but i just get bored around the time you get the castle. Battles are boring, classes are boring, and whats worse the writing is dry and tedious.
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>>743296076
>shame how larian concentrated on polishing the first act though, because act 3 and 4, was just okay, and the ending really sucked
That's just the Larian way. They release Act 1 as Early Access and make it really good to gain attention and then they half-ass the rest of the game.
By the time you get past the good part you can't unbuy it.
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>>743289096
Reminder that there's a mod to unfuck psi now.
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>>743296076
>WL3
i'm not sure how i feel about this game. i think it's really more of a mismatch of what i wanted and what it offered. i thought i was getting fallout in snow. WL3 had robots (which was okay), the patriarch and the dorseys (again okay), but the patriarch's kids and the reagan bot and the payasos and all the other factions were all out of this world. the music during important battles was a highlight and i wish other games would adopt this. I also didn't like Angela Deth here.

>Planescape
everyone should play through it at least once, even if using a guide. it has one of the best stories and cast in vidya. the problem is, it's easy to lose steam if you're not playing the game day by day even with the help of your journal. another point of losing interest is around Curst.

>JA2
very simple narratively, but the combat system and the destructible environments make JA2 one of my favorites.
one point of interest is how you're able to finish the game in around 45 minutes if you want to. just get the stealth guy and go straight to the final map and kill deidranna. elliot is funny
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>>743296076
>DOS2 mechanically, the game is gold.

lmao
>diablo item loot but all your equipment(including """"legendaries"""") becomes useless every time your character levels up
>abysmal armor system hurts party composition freedom
>gameplay loop is you burning through armor to permanently stun next enemy in initiative queue
>everybody just teleports around because movement is so badly balanced its genuinely not worth walk
>muh surfaces
>barrelmancy
>9000 inventory crafting items you will never interact with ever

I cant believe dos2 somehow go memed by people into "great mechanics and combat" game.
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>>743293310
(You) should try to make it smaller and even more blurry, I can still figure out 2-3 games fucking faggot...
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>>743288810
This is obviously closest to what Imoen was meant to look like but /v/ will screech and wail until blue in the face that the sweaty bald pig in a wig portrait is totally accurate to what the writers intended and a tremendous soulful artistic achievement.
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>>743299985
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>>743295907
Why? Monopoly tendencies? Isn't s1 on gog? Pretty sure I bought and returned it. Sad that our gog guy leaves the field, the drama queen. S2 looks much better, despite the crosseyes.
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>>743296076
Remember dos2 had 12 acts initially and act 4 was actually the ending of act 1.
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>>743297075
Are you washed
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>>743290693
That was a really good one.
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>>743288810
you don't even know what a crpg actually is or what crpg actually stands for, so no, fuck off, kill yourself you filthy zoomer faggot
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>>743288810
I enjoyed, Baldur's Gate 1, Fallout 1, Human Revolution, Mankind Divided, Witcher1/2/3/ (Is this even a CRPG?) NWN1, Dragon Age: Origins and now I started Tyranny we'll see how it goes.
>>743300648
Holy diamonds.
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>>743299985
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>>743288810
Banquet for Fools
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Doge Trader
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>>743297075
>FO1
played this using FO1in2, so i didn't get the problems of 1 like getting stuck if an npc was in the doorway. it's fun and short. wished there was just a bit more to do

>Arcanum
flawed but great gem. arcanum allowed you to experiment with builds and do whatever you want: sneak, smooth talk, force, use invisibility or dominate will, etc makes it a real roleplaying game. reactivity in arcanum is also unmatched

>Colony Ship
great original setting, combat is fun, and the graphics is good. it's actually what i think a good modern implementation of a CRPG would be. bad end is my favorite
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>>743296714
link pls
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>faster than Chiktikka Fastpaws!
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>>743302095
https://www.nexusmods.com/underrailexpedition/mods/32
>Legacy Psi System (default: off)
>All Psi abilities are automatically Innervated and made available upon learning them, with no cap on maximum Innervated Abilities. While enabled, Psi Reserves cannot drop below 40%. This mod breaks the Innervation interface window, so avoid opening it, and don't try to change anything in it or else risk bugging your character.
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>>743302339
Nice, very nice. About time too. Time to actually play this game again.
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>>743302339
>https://www.nexusmods.com/underrailexpedition/mods/32
>Three Utility Slots (default: off)
>Three utility slots are unlocked by default, instead of 2. In the vanilla game, there is no way to unlock the final slot.
>In the vanilla game, there is no way to unlock the final slot.
Based modders fixing the game
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>>743299985
any actual adventurer trying to paranoically move through stretches of wild countryside quietly and quickly without any other human interaction for several days at a time while attempting to minimize the amount of fights against horrible giant creatures would in fact look sweaty and disheveled. Imoen is still a cutie in spite of it, and the fact that she looks like she's been in several fights only makes her more interesting.
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>>743288810
Baldur's Gate 3
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>>743299985
the cope and mental gymnastics never end I see
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>>743301046
New witcher dlc coming. Might play it on ng+. Another 250h to sink in.
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>>743301342
Bad parts in the game?
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>>743303298
Maybe, but this doesn't look like a teen pro thief. Love the portrait and the character.
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>>743300648
>brasil
>no brasilian wax
One job
I am a bush enjoyer but one has to follow some sense in cosplay
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>>743304018
>Look at her left nostril, certainly won't fuck her!!
She's provoking and begging for it and that's legitimate. Not her fault society brainwashed her and basedboys would never dare to manhandle her properly.
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>>743303392
I haven't even heard about this. I just had to look it up, why the fuck would they make an expansion years after the game? I'm not complaining and probably will check it out, but this seems weird, almost as if they're building hype for IV since a lot of people don't give a fuck about Ciri.
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>>743304598
To get experience for the w1, 2,3 remakes. Unsure if a new geralt game might come.
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>>743293641
>>743296302
it feels like bootleg dnd, people talk shit about FR, but no one has been able to create a more fun world to adventure in
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>>743288810
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>>743304598
They used ciri as protag to get government gibs
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>>743288810
project nortubel
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>>743304873
>playan Operencia
>it's kinda fun, loving the dynamic between the dudes going on adventures
>suddenly femoid joins in
>she is an obnoxious lesbian bitch
>completely ruins the party dynamic
Dropped it right there
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>>743289096
SPBP
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>>743289096
>underrail
>good CRPG
shit ugly game, you don't even get a party
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>>743294567
>the new story mod for bg2
No one is looking forward to it?
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>>743305842
bold of you to assume theres more than 5 people on nu/v/ who even played bg2
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>>743304873
>south park stick of truth
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>>743296076
>DOS2
>mechanically, the game is gold

I enjoyed some of the quests and their relative openendedness. And the overall atmosphere.

But combat was fucking ass. When some early random guard Superman dived my party I went 'oh no' Combat was just very tedious cooldown based ability spam, zero tactics, very tiresome. And something about how the different leveling up systems came together felt shit to play as well.

It was good despite the combat.
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>>743303707
>pro thief.
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>>743306767
>cooldown based ability spam, zero tactics,
You made the game more annoying than it needed to be.
DOS 1 and 2 are 100% based around comboing elements. If you're just spamming your abilities without tactics you're doing not even a quarter of the damage and crowd control you could be doing.

People do the bare minimum to progress the game through on normal and then complain that the game is too simple.
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>>743297212
When every other CRPG is just buff and auto-attack, DOS is a breath of fresh air.
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>>743290693
My beloved. I'd start another playthrough if I wasn't already playing some other stuff right now.
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>>743306586
The greatest of all jrpgs
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743304873
If that's intended to be a tier list, Icewind Dale 1 is about five tiers too low, and I'd personally even put it above BG2.
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>>743297212
name a cRPG with better mechanics
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>>743304873
>nu-men era
oh yeah, that happened
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Realistically, how long are these gonna keep me occupied? I have non installed because i'm at work rn in case you were wondering
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>>743288810
Trick question, there are no good CRPGs.
Play Roguelikes.
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>>743308026
Each game would probably give about a week or two's worth of playthrough, more on replays.
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>>743308026
You're good for the rest of the year assuming you don't speedrun. For the rest of your life if you have build autism and find one that fits it perfecty.
For me it's underrail.
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>>743308174
You seem to be correct, but with the only exception of Underrail, i've played it for a bit and it was the most difficult of them.
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>>743307887
BG2 with SCS, Underrail, Bg3
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>>743308237
Yes, Underrail and Rogue Trade probably are the best of these. Should i add BG3 on the list or is it a meme ? I have never played BG3.
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>>743289096
If Underrail is a CRPG then Meinkraft is a CRPG, and I say this as someone who enjoyed Underrail.
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>>743288810
>CRPG
>Good
Not even one, in all of history.
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>>743308026
Not counting replays
>BG1EE is about 14-18 hours
>BG2EE is about 30 hours
>NWN is hard to classify but can easily balloon into hundreds of hours
Haven't played the other ones
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>>743308350
Explain to me how it is not a Computer Role-Playing Game.
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What do you like about CRPG
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>>743291181
I tried to get into kingmaker twice and just couldn't. Cool concept bad execution
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>>743308640
Player expression.
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>>743291181
Owcat's games are trash, lower quality than the classics and do nothing new or interesting, extremely shilled around here though.
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>>743308640
Grug power attack for 1d12 +456 damage
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>>743308502
You want me to prove a negative, alright.
The game does fit the modern, retarded definition of a role-playing game as in there's stats that you increment, but it does not fit the proper definition of a role-playing game as there's simply no room for role playing. The dialogue system is very simplistic with only 1 choice being offered most of the time. The player's freedom in terms of things other than tackling (or avoiding) combat is nil, you can't even call out Gorsky on his shenaniggers in Core City. And with this lack of choice comes lack of consequence, where choice and consequence are the core tenets of role-playing games.
It's a game that explicitly (and the developer admits so) focuses on the Fallout-style combat. And there's nothing wrong with that, but if we call it a role-playing game just because it has level-ups, dialogue and an open world then we have to call most games out there role-playing games.
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>>743309002
I would think an expressive player wants to play a racing game or For Honor or something.
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>>743308640
Devs giving you diplomacy, sneaking, alternate routes and then choosing to play as a guy who solves problems by smashing people's heads with a hammer.
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>>743309179
I don't like games where you are tied to a course or arena, I want an adventure.
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>>743308640
I like weird trooncalc ttrpg stats and having to specialize in wearing types of armor or magic schools etc
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>>743308026
30-40 hours each except for owlcat games which will take 60-70 hours each
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>>743308331
As a build-enjoyer I quite liked BG3, it's biggest flaw to me was how easy it would get if you min-maxed. I ended up installing mods to make it harder.
I'd put it below underrail but it's still good.
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>>743309136
You can select which factions to help, and that alters the endings. RPGs doesn't mean detailed dialogue choices.
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>>743293641
>The think old stats of Strength, Dexterity, Constitution, Wisdom, Intelligence and Charisma were too min-maxxy and we wanted all character to potentially benefit from all stats for a variety of builds!
>So we replaced the old stats with Moxie, Gumption, Chutzpah, Vibes, Ennui and Intuition. They all just generically make the numbers go up you ultimately don't need to care about (except for whatever the main stat is for your class)
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>>743288810
Fallout New Vegas
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>>743309681
You select which faction to help in Far Cry 4 and it does change the ending.
See what I mean? If we start calling games like Underrail RPGs we dilute the definition of role playing to the point of homeopathy.
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>>743309517
That's rushing through the main story. Personally I always explore every nook and cranny in this kind of RPG.
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>>743307571
Portrait looks like AI.
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>>743310145
you're just a slow reader
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>>743309972
No, because far cry is an action game. crpg requires that the character skills are used and not the player.
If far cry wasn't an FPS and instead your shooting ability depended 100% on the skill level of your character, then it would count as an RPG, yes.
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>>743310257
See? Now we're back to claiming that incrementing stats mean playing a role.
This is why proving a negative is pointless and you instead should state your case why this game that doesn't fit the criteria of an RPG is an RPG.
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>>743308986
>bad execution
You have to mod out the crap imo.
For Kingmaker, Kingdom Resolution is mandatory, so that you can remove the tedium of Kingdom Management. Bag of Tricks is pretty good for troubleshooting bugs. And the mod that makes it so you can dispel your own AoE spells is also a must have imo, especially since some spells can last several minutes before they vanish.
For WoTR, Combat Relief is necessary to remove the awful Crusades mini game. Toybox is also pretty good for troubleshooting any bugs you might come across in-game.
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>>743310257
Role-playing mechanics is what makes an RPG. Challenges relying a lot on a unit's skills and not the player's dexterity is something that all strategy/tactics-based games share, and not something unique to RPGs.
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>>743310231
>you're just a slow reader
Nta, but Pathfinder WoTR took me about 80 hours to finish and Kingmaker took me about a 100 hours to finish. This was of course counting all of the DLCs for both games.
I'm not a slow reader either. I've read a few fanfics with a 180,000-200,000 words in about 6-8 hours. So I consider myself a pretty fast reader.
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>>743308026
Took me 90h to finish Kingmaker but I restarted the game three times.
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>>743290839
>>743295717
computer role playing game
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>>743310396
>Incrementing stats mean playing a role.
Not what I said, if you're going to just spout shit that I didn't say, go ahead and have a conversation on your own. Stats exist in action games too. The point is character skills are used and not the player.
>you instead should state your case why this game that doesn't fit the criteria of an RPG is an RPG.
You're trying to force the burden of proof on others because you know your argument is nonsense. Trying to claim that RPG requires a detailed dialogue system is retarded btw, the dialogue in underrail is barely different than the one you find in baldurs gate 1.

>>743310532
a CRPG is made of many things, choices and consequences + character skill and not player skill + freedom of how you want to play and other things
> Challenges relying a lot on a unit's skills and not the player's dexterity is something that all strategy/tactics-based games share
The player skill is still the deciding factor in RTS games however.
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>>743310538
Fair, I don't really count the extra campaigns dlc
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>>743310834
>Trying to claim that RPG requires a detailed dialogue system is retarded btw, the dialogue in underrail is barely different than the one you find in baldurs gate 1.
And the lack of actions and consequences, and the lack of freedom of resolving quests other than combat, and the lack of reactiveness from the NPCs and the true freedom of action that would allow for properly playing a role.
Yes, it does look like you're gonna have to continue this conversation yourself indeed if you're:
1) too retarded to understand the issue in demanding the proof of a negative
2) incapable of understanding what playing a role entails. Imagine a DM shooting down all your ideas other than fighting or sneaking.
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>>743311232
>And the lack of actions and consequences
There are actions and consequences. More than BG1 now that I think about it.
>lack of freedom of resolving quests
not a requirement. Again, see BG1.
> lack of reactiveness from the NPCs and the true freedom of action that would allow for properly playing a role.
All of this shit is just a nonsense you made up in your mind that has nothing to do with the actual games.
You're essentially claiming that classic crpgs like nevewinwter nights 1 and temple of elemental evil are not RPGS because of your made up definition that only you believe in.
>GM
A video game RPG is never going to be as free as a tabletop RPG, and that's natural, no point comparing the two.
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Atom RPG
Colony Shit
Tyranny
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>>743311754
You seem to be very hung upon this Baldur's Gate 1, a game which not perfect at least tried aiming for a proper role-playing experience as evidenced by the studio's following games. Compare that to a game that's merely a Fallout combat simulator combined with a minmax fiesta and the developer admits so.
>You're essentially claiming that classic crpgs like nevewinwter nights 1 and temple of elemental evil are not RPGS
Yes, but that's a conversation you're not ready for.
>because of your made up definition that only you believe in
No, because of the simple belief that a Role Playing Game should allow the freedom of playing a role, and if it doesn't allow so it is not a Role Playing Game.
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>>743312090
>Yes
Thanks that's all I needed to hear. I just got you to admit that you think classic CRPGs, known as such by everyone, are not RPGs, making whatever definition you are trying to make be a personal one and not the actual definition.
You can have your own personal autistic definition of a word, but don't expect it to be the actual definition used by normal people for a video game genre.
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>>743308491
>BG1EE is about 14-18 hours
>BG2EE is about 30 hours
In what universe? I have 76 hours in BG1 and 96 hours in BG2 respectively. And that's one playthrough.
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>>743310425
Honestly when they get done with 40k they should take a pass at something similar to kingmaker with everything they've learned
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>>743312958
You're welcome. No reason to argue with someone who thinks a Role Playing Game doesn't need to facilitate role playing.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to play my favorite First Person Shooter in 3rd person.
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>>743311754
>>And the lack of actions and consequences
>There are actions and consequences. More than BG1 now that I think about it.
>>lack of freedom of resolving quests
>not a requirement. Again, see BG1.
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>>743312958
>You can have your own personal autistic definition of a word, but don't expect it to be the actual definition used by normal people for a video game genre.
We've had a bunch of these retards all over the site recently. A couple of weeks ago someone was sperging out on /vst/ that milsim games, Arma, and Call of Duty were just as much strategy games as Command and Conquer thus they should be allowed on the strategy games board. It's just retarded zoomers trying to be "superior".
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>>743313281
There's a quest in underrail where you infiltrate a fascist base and you can go in guns blazing, or steal a uniform and pretend to be a soldier or just use stealth.
Most areas have ventilation ducts that allow you to avoid combat. Stealthing around and avoiding combat is easier in underrail than in bg1
There's also that quest where you infiltrate the facility near junkyeard, which you can sneak or just kill everyone and if you kill everyone but get caught by the cameras, the faction turns hostile

There are no consequences to killing everyone inside the iron throne btw
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what's a good rpg that won't punish you for being sword and board hero (or becoming the villain)?
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>>743313701
Not to mention all the threads about people angry at genre names.
>no it's not metroidvania it's exploration-type platformers!
>no it's not blobber, it's dungeon crawler in lockstep!
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>>743313859
amusingly, rogue trader
sword and shield works pretty well in 40k
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>>743302165
I like that they say shit no one's ever heard of without any explanation
>>Chiktikka Fastpaws
>It's this big raccoon friend of one of the gnome gods?
>>By Valkur's mighty blade
>Giant viking lesser god that wades in the sea to protect ships
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>>743289096
Yeah that was on my mind when I saw the thread. Good, but not a super old classic that probably anyone saying the term "CRPG" has most definitely already played.

>>743288810
I'd also recommend Rogue Trader. I do not recommend the Pathfinder games.
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>>743288810
Arcanum if you can stomach getting rsi
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>>743313107
>Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to play my favorite First Person Shooter in 3rd person.
Not him, but Quake 3 has cg_thirdperson and most other FPSs also have third person modes, so you're proving your retardism.
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>>743310231
I have 120 hours in PoE and I only did one playthrough. It's including the expansions but I don't remember them being twice the length of the main game even if you didn't count DLC.
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>>743288810
>CRPG
Just read a book nigga.
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>>743314538
And you can play many multiplayer games against bots. A console command that won't even display the crosshair is not the own you think it is, so it's more telling about you than me.
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>>743314774
Doesn't matter, it's a third person shooter because you can go into third person.
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>>743314864
True, and Meinkraft is a CRPG because it's playable on a computer and you can role play a farmer.
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>>743314952
Now you're getting it. Genres are inherently arbitrary and decided by consensus.
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>>743315063
No, words have meanings.
You wouldn't want your RPG to not allow for proper role playing just like you wouldn't like your MMO to be offline or ASSFAGGOTS not to be played on Aeon of Strife.
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>>743290839
18+ website lil bro.
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>>743315209
My favourite roleplaying game is minecraft because I can play the role of a farmer
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>>743315163
great series
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>>743315209
There are no dictionaries for genre names. Genre names are decided by collective agreement. Sorry that your personal autistic definition isn't the one used by everyone else, but that's how it is.
You're not gonna make people stop calling final fantasy a jrpg despite the fact there's no roleplaying in them. Underrail, nwn and temple of elemental evil are crpgs according to the popular definition.

Your own definition is irrelevant to anyone but you.
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>>743313963
i totally forgot about that game, loved kingmaker and wrath, is rogue in the same league?
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>>743313859
Wrath of the Righteous. Go full Demonslayer Ranger, do not fucking dip because it ruins it. 19/16/14/7/14/7. Abyss for gore attack and then Angel.
1 Weapon Focus (Longsword)
2 Ranger: Sword and Shield style, Two-Weapon Fighting
3 Weapon Focus (Heavy Shield Bash)
5 Boon Companion
6 Shield Master <- you have now won the game
7 Improved Two-Weapon Fighting
9 Improved Critical (Longsword)
10 Bashing Finish
etc. It's a shredder.
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>>743315606
It's not my personal definition, it's the literal meaning of the words that the term is comprised of.
>You're not gonna make people stop calling final fantasy a jrpg despite the fact there's no roleplaying in them.
They can choose to be wrong, it is their freedom to do so.
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>>743315746
Oh yeah and Shield Bash level 1 as the human feat. Kind of important.
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>>743308150
how utterly ironic, since rogue is itself a classic rpg while none of the fucking modern garbage niggershit that all of these faggots rattle off are classic rpgs in the slightest
>muh baldurs gay
modern homo faggot shit for niggers, kill yourself subhuman
>muh icewind dale
modern homo faggot shit for niggers, kill yourself subhuman
none of you zoomgroidal nigger pieces of shit even have the slightest clue of what you're even TRYING to talk about, 4/5ths of the shit you braindead niggers have mentioned AREN'T EVEN RPGS
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
TOTAL ZOOMER DEATH
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>>743290693
Redpill me on this
How's the writing?
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>>743316163
shit
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I started to like cRPGs when I got older for some reason
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>>743315163
Pretty good. It's bloated though. The combat is fun and good, but there are so much of it you really get exhausted by it. At the third act I just wanted it to stop. Every chapter also give the enemies a new gimmick, and the one in the third act was really annoying.
The story and characters were fun though, I really liked that they went with an alternative universe "what if" setting. You still get to meet a lot of the famous people from that era and not just be Ceasar, and chose gender and class. You get like two tank class characters and one of the other class, so it don't incentives to play that
>>743288810
Play "A dance with Rogues"
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>>743316269
Sad
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>>743315741
I'd say rogue trader is better in terms of gameplay, the story is on par.
I personally liked the party members of kingmaker more.
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>>743315774
>pic
at least you understand it's just you.
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Is Rogue Trader any good? I've bounced off most recent/modern CRPGs I've tried. I didn't care for pillars, pathfinder couldn't immediately grab me either. Maybe I should try the 2nd pathfinder game I guess
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>>743316740
you just don't like the genre
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>>743317013
What a retarded response. I love the genre and probably played BG1 before you were even born
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>>743316740
owlcat games are just lame
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>>743315606
Stop responding to him. Either a troll or his head is genuinely stuck too far up his ass to get it.
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>>743316740
>>743317013
>>743317234
I don't like the pathfinder games, love Rogue Trader. Maybe pirate it before you buy it or something, but Rogue Trader is genuinely a different beast.
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>>743316504
is the game worth it if I just want to plap Cleopatra?
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>>743316740
Rogue Trader will win you over right from the start. It's the best RPG since... I don't even know it's been so long.
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>>743288810
huh you're a queer fellow
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TIME FOR A LITTLE ROUGH AND TUMBLE
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>>743317530
Kinda gay if you don't want to plap her. I think you need to follow a guide though
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>>743315746
Weapon Focus is ass, anon. Why are you recommending it over Combat Reflexes (more attacks per a round)? You also need to have improved critical imo. Weapon Focus is only worth taking if you're going for shatter defenses, and even in that case you only need weapon focus for one weapon
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>>743317839
It's a pre-requisite
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Honestly wrath of the righteous is the best modern crpg for me but I cannot stomach the whole build shit anymore. I suffered through my pathfinder kingsmaker playthrough making my build not complete dogshit and kneecapping my playthrough. I'll eventually get into it again. And honestly Rogue Trader builds feel so simple compared to wotr so that's an easy pick up and play
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>>743317839
Retard alert
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>>743315746
>Wrath of the Righteous
>good
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>>743320672
>Retard alert
Wasting two feats on a +1 to attack for swords and shields is retarded, yes
>>743318071
>It's a pre-requisite
Only if he's going for Shatter Defenses, which that anon doesn't even have in his build
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>>743315746
>>743317839
>>743324843
Oh, and he went for Longswords, which are ass. He should grab a weapon with a better crit profile like Scimitars, which can eventually have a 25% chance to crit once you pick up improved critical. He should also be grabbing the Outflank perk too for more attacks per a round.
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Don't forget to Vote
https://strawpoll.com/xVg71o7vzyr
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>>743309136
>>743309972
>>743311232
>>743312090
>>743313107

The only real gamer on this entire fucking website.
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>>743303298
>>743303707
She looks like a rough 38 year old office admin. This is supposed to be a teenager???
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>>743307862
based frosty chilly bro
IWD is goat
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>>743313081
you being shit at the game isn't my problem
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I love my sister wife and hate that this image is not 16:9, I'd love it as a wallpaper



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