DARK SOULS was meant to be played with the claymore.
>this [customizable RPG] is meant to be played this specific way Truly the brownest posters.
Problem with claymore is that it's only a top tier weapon when using a shield/1-handed. And I don't like using shields.
>>743290721What? I only ever use it 2handed and it literally feels like cheating
>>743290971Anon, the whole reason why the claymore is so well regarded is because of its 1-handed strong thrust attack. The 1-handed thrust is the special sauce, which is lost upon 2-handing it. At that point you're just using a gimped zweihander and should make the switch instead.
>>743290434Chudhander mogs goymore
swag
If you used anything other than longsword or broadsword you didnt beat it.
>>743290721Don't understand why they couldn't give it a two handing thrust attack. DS2 had that and they also corrected it in DS3.
>>743291472Actually you're supposed to use only the broken straight sword you casual. You didn't beat the game if you used anything else.
>>743290434Then why isn't it the starter weapon?
>>743291472unironically the "gatekeeper" advice for a first playthough to learn the mechanics was basically>no shield>cloth armor only or naked>two hand small or medium sized weapon, no great weapons>no black knight weapons>no magicif you extend this logic to Elden ring you would say>no weapon art spamas well.Filthy casuals invaded our safespace bros. I am watching these streamers get to malenia and they basically dont know about spacing or hitstun or stamina management at all and they just spam lions claw until they get a lucky moveset where they dont have to deal with waterfowl. >"FINALLY BEAT HER AFTER 300 TRIES WHEN SHE DIDNT WATERFOWL AND GOT STAGGERED AT THE PERFECT TIME BROS!"
>>743291060you get a rolling thrust attack when two handed
>>743290434there's literally no point in using anything other than uchigatana in every dark souls game and elden ring
making whatever kind of character you want using whatever weapon is a key aspect of the identity of these games.in fact souls-likes that don't have a variety of melee weapons, ranged weapons, magic and armor are not souls-like at all.
>>7432910602 handed charge attack is really good for PvE.A fun cheese build i did was great axe build where I spammed jump attacks. stunlocked some bosses to death.
>>743292038Yeah and rolling attacks are fucking terrible in Dark Souls 1.
>>743292179by 2 handed charge attack i meant the claymores running spin attack.
>>743290434>he swapped out starting gearNo game beating occurred
I wish daggers were more than just "pull this out for ripostes"
i just realized this is that old game that swagger souls based his character offtype shit tho
>>743292681Priscilla's Dagger has a higher Bleed multiplier any weapon other than the Lifehunt Scythe so you can use it to proc Bleed.
>>743291870>if you extend this logic to Elden ring you would say>no weapon art spamMeanwhile theres me with almost 30h /played on Elden Ring and only now figured out what Weapon Arts are after I randomly saw a video of someone using it. I legit been killing bosses with only RB and RT melee weapon
>>743291472If you used anything other than the broken sword you didn't beat the game
Souls games are meant to be played with summons. If you didn't summon a player or npc you didn't beat the game.
>>743292179>>743292210Running GS attacks are legitimately GOATed, but at that point we're discussing the merits of the weapon class itself and not the claymore specifically.
>start playing a STR build>Balder Side Sword drops from the first caped hollowtime to pivot
>>743293404Understandable. It can take hours to drop even at 10 Humanity.
>>743293254this, miyazaki himself said so
>black knight halberd>grass crest shieldYep it's gamer time. Btw if you do rollslop instead of blocking with a shield to avoid damage you're playing the game wrong.
>>743290434drake sword main foreveryou should *clay* more about it
>>743290434I played every Dark Souls game and Elden Ring with Claymore.
What's cheating more Black Knight Halberd from Darkroot or Greatswotd from Burg or Parish?
Baller swag sword with sunlight blade is sick
>>743292051I'd say most Katanas are outclassed in DS1 and DS3 by curved swords. In DS2 they're objectively the best Dex option and most curved swords underperform.
>>743291060Yeah never liked how the 2 handed R2 basically has negative range
>>743294080Katanas are great in DaS1, especially with how powerful bleed is. Also the Iaito one handed R2 is one of the most satisfying and underrated attacks in the game.
>>743290434I played all dark souls games only with claymore and if I were to replay them, Id still pick claymore. easiest choice
>>743293137The game has tons of OP mechanics that I basically didn't understand and barely touched for most part, only to later realize how trivially good they are, but the game is completely frustrating shit is you choose to not use any of them.
>>743290434>right handReinforced Club>left handHeater ShieldYep, time to destroy the game.
>not drakemaxxingyou are a foolreject modernity and return to the primordial
>>743295236The healthbloat near the end is absurd without them
>Right handCaestus>Left handCaestusYep, it's time to make game beating occur
>2hnd zweihander>fish for bk sword>fish for bk halberd>reset if neither dropsmy opening start for years now
>>743290434What's the matter, little guy? Afraid of a real battlefield weapon?
>>743298594This. Fist weapons or GO HOME.
>>743290434No it was meant to be played with a straight sword and shield.
Did back to back playthroughs as each class, recently.
>>743291870>no shieldAbsolutely retarded, shields are strong as fuck in Dark Souls 1.
>>743299851Insanely SOULful, creative and well thought out builds, congrats anon
>>743300259
For me it's grinding drake bridge hollows for 3 hours to afford a +15 pyro flame, and then grinding phalanx for another 3 hours to afford a +5 ascended flame. Too bad the remaster got rid of the soul duping glitch
>>743290509>Game was designed by creators to be able to be played with any of the in-game weapons >point out one viable way of playing the game>You are BROWN!retard
Darksouls was meant to be played as an Int/Dex build
>>743292051katanas are straight dogshit and overrated af in the souls games. they didn't start becoming useful until elden ring
>>743301764DS1: quality + pyroDS2: pure str, powerstanced clubsDS3: mage quality, dark magic
>>743299851I desire the lore of the club wielding guy with the confessor helmet (I think) and naked father mask man.
>>743301346>Too bad the remaster got rid of the soul duping glitchit didn't
>>743301764This but Elden Ring, the magic swordfighter is THE most elaborate and shilled archetype in the game.
>>743291472DS1 is the only game where scythes can dead angle without some dumb skill. So I will be playing an edgelord.
>>743302634Nothing fancy. Just a Bandit warlord and a Deprived madman.
>>743302721Elden Ring is the only game where a STR/INT build works so you have no excuse for not doing that
>>743303191It doesn't work at all, it's just pure STR with a small INT tax you pay to wield a few special weapons.STR/FTH actually has a catalyst that scales with STR that you can get 10 minutes into a new playthrough, and an entire school of physical damage incantations that require almost no FTH investment.
>>743301346It didn't man. You can do it on console and pc. Same for humanity.
>>743303191STR/INT is also a thing in DS1 but it late game since you need Manus's catalyst. It really just Unga Bunga with your preferred weapon of choice plus magic weapon buff and you sometimes fire some spell if you can't be bothered with meele. Issue is the build is pretty much endgame/NG+ onward.
>>743290434nnaaah
>>743290434Ive only ever played demons souls and i just used a 1 hand and double handed it. Idk if you can do that in the other games
>>743301686You can't even read. You idiotic nigger.
>>743291756Dark Souls 1 still has the best female bodies in the series somehow
>>743307346Not sure. Also player type NPCs are ugly as shit.
>>743307346You are trans
Started another playthrough of DS3 convergence mod, picked a pyromancer, was dissatisfied and rerolled quality so I could pump VGR and END early game and the lothric knight greatsword (same poke as claymore) is the fucking finger of god>magic is easy mode
>>743304028>STR/FTH actually has a catalyst that scales with STR that you can get 10 minutes into a new playthroughI decided to use that on this playthrough, and it's really fucking cool
>>743290434Nah.
>>743307621>>743307721compare the figure to 2 & 3, dipshits
>>743290434>Gaymore
>>743299851not a single good fashion choice jesus christ
>>743291404zased
Started DS2 for the first time today after finishing DS1 remastered.Why is the movement so fucking annoying? Everything has this annoying delay, even camera. Feels so terrible and clunky.Was it just remake that fixed it and OG dark souls are clunky like this or is it a DS2 thing?I feel like skipping this game. Got pissed within an hour of playing
>>743294684>>743291060They nerfed the fuck out of greatswords one patch and the claymore got hit really hard, I believe they made their R1s slower and maybe reduced their range when 2handing them. Can't remember when it happened, I think it might have been the DLC that changed it.
>>743299686It's disgusting how much this thing got gutted from DeS, lucerne has to have the worst 2h R1 out of any weapon in any souls game
>>743312929zoomeroid subhuman, you will never ever belong, fuck off back to Elden DOGSHIT Ring.
>>743313089Isn't it one of the better weapons of DS1. I remember it being good because pierce damage bullshit.
>>743312929You get used to it. After that it usually plays better than DS1.
>>743313210Idk, I don't think I ever tried to minmax a build with it because the R1 is so horribly slow with piss poor range. Sounds like it'd be a fun challenge run to go for after almost a decade of me not playing though
>>743312929Stick with it new friend. Its worth experiencing. You'll get used to its jankiness
>>743290434It is most enjoyable with a great shield with 100% physical damage negationWhen a boss hits you with an attack that would normally knock you down, you just do a backflip for a few yards. Very cool. I utterly brutalized Artorias with his own shield, it was so easy.
>>743312929>Why is the movement so fucking annoying? Everything has this annoying delay, even camera. Feels so terrible and clunky.Because it doesn't actually have real analog stick movement, it instead using basic 8 directional movement mapped to zones, so when the stick moves from 1 zone to another it snaps to the direction. It's incredibly imprecise and, yes, it is complete ass and a downgrade from DeS and DS1.Additionally, agility, gained through ADP and ATN, affects far more than just i-frames. It also affects the speed of many animations and actions, such as using items, casting spells, raising your shield (really when the game counts your shield as actually guarding you), weapon swap speed, etc.Another thing that might be making it feel bad is that they, retardedly, use the exact same animation for all rolls until you hit 70% equip load and at 70% turns into a fat roll, they just reduce the distance it travels. So your eyes are telling you 1 thing, but the game is actually doing another. That means at 0% equip load you travel 100% of the distance you can, but at 69% you roll ~64% the distance with the exact same animation speed/time. So, at 50% equip load you travel 80% of the distance but still roll just as fast as a 0% equip load. At 70%+ you get the fat roll. As your equip load shifts a bit the rolls will constantly change their distance traveled and it makes it very unintuitive to know where you will actually end up or if you will clear an attack or not.
I'm not even talking about the stupidass meme.It's just the coolest sword in all three games.It's big but not stupid, Berserk ripoff big.It's effective in every game without being a meta-whore's weapon except in the opening days of DaS1.And it just looks awesome.
>>743290721>>743291060just use an off hand weapon that can parry, you have so many options to put there based on your preferences
>>743313119you sound like you are trying too hard to belong>>743313956>>743313257Aight, will keep playing.>>743314921That's very helpful.
>>743290434Based claymore king
>>743290434>Gaybore
It would appear my superiority has lead to some controversy
>>743315860>you sound like you are trying too hard to belongA zoomeroid subhuman newfag telling a veteran he is trying to belong, LMAO. Neck yourself Elden DOGSHIT Ring normalfag, you will never ever belong in Souls community, nor FromSoftware community.
>>743312929>>743314921Why do people torture themselves like this? Just use the deadzone fix mod.
>>743317576>just change the game and cheat and don't experience the artistic vision and intended experience by FromSoftwareLow IQ subhuman, no thanks.
>>743317797This Deadzone nonsense only exists in the PC version and changing it is ridiculously simple. You can even change it manually on Steam in BigPicture mode.
>>743301686That's not what he said, you retard
>>743290434Thats not the Zweihander
>>743316637>Elden DOGSHIT Ringeveryone knows you're a schizo
>>743291060>1h thrust to check incoming enemies>1h light attack to deal with multiple weak swarming enemies>2h light attack string to deal with shields and staggerlock humanoids>2h heavy attack to time while downed enemies are getting up>Rolling 2h attack for a thrust when you don't have time to switch to 1h>Jump attack for a fast, long-ranged heavy hit against dangerous targetsDo you niggers seriously only spam one attack instead of learning all the things your weapon can do and when to use them?>Using a gimped zwei and should switchBut I don't want to waste ten points in strength to use a shithander when the claymore and moonlight both require exactly 16 Str. Claymore+magic weapon is perfect to carry me through the game until I get my endgame option. They don't even compete for upgrade materials.
>>743290434i just use the default club without a shield and without armor because i'm a masochistit's actually not that bad until you have to fight human enemies with poise. those fights are super sweaty.
>>743290434Are there any actual great historical figures in europe that even used a claymore?
I beat Das2 multiple times with kbm. not sure what this deadzone nonsense is all about
>tfw played sword and board guy holding L1 my entire first playthroughturns out you could just get the zweihander or some bullshit and actually do damage
>>743327147Should have played Sekiro instead buddy.
>play dark souls 1 2 and 3>they're all awesome>have funmust suck to be autistic and have a weird hangup about some minor change in one
>>743290434sword and board is the scholar's choice
Mogger of the first sin.
>>743290434>get the black knight halberd in darkroot basin on my first playthroughi didn't even know it was the best weapon in the game until much later.
>>743290434Real men use caestus or halberds.
>>743327581specifically a Buckler and Rapier.
>>743312929DS2 is uniquely shit
>>743312929higher commitment > roll-slop
>>743290434She's perfect in every universe
>>743290434is there even a weapon thats not viable in ds1? i guess the broken sword but i bet some autist beat the game with it.
>>743290434>Gaysnore
>"meant to be played">hide it under a giant fire breathing drake that forces you to take the pathway under Yeah, okay buddy.
>>743330924>forces you to take the pathway underSkill issue + IQ issue.
>twinking and killing low levels at undead burg with max pyromancyahhhh better times...
>>743328990Mind you viable doesn't mean good.In that sense, daggers are pretty shit.Yes everyone knows the gwyn parry strat, but he's literally the only boss you can parry or backstab, and after O&S most regular enemies can't be either.Same with the bleed of bandit's knife, everything becomes so resistant or flat out immune to it.Of course they will always shred in pvp, but so will anything with chain backstabs.
>>743307346Cuz it's a dimly lit game called Dark Souls about random nobodies no one gives a fuck about that are wearing 3 layers of armor if they want their miserable lives to continue another day.There's been a lot of total bullshit attacks on gamers but this is one of those real examples of /v/ retardation that tries to relate everything back to whether they can masturbate to it.
post the most swag weapons from each game. ill start with DS3.
>>743330924fuck off back to twitter, AI jeet.
Does anyone have that image that compares the armor in Dark Souls to the average armor in a generic fantasy game?It contains the text "It's fucking cold in Lordran".It is unreal how much better designed this game is than Elden Ring. What I say better designed I mean I don't like how a cool graphic looks on a shield, I mean that it makes sense and looks like it's used by a human being. Elden Ring just vomits tacky bullshit onto everything. Autism.
I discovered the franchise roughly 7 years ago and played through all of them passionately.Never used a shield.Never used magic.2h or bust.
>>743312929you get used to it. it's a great game just stick with it
>>743333523shield in elden ring is very fun cause of guard counter
Playing DS1 with a claymore and heavy armor is basically playing in very easy mode since you just faceroll everything and don't engage with most combat mechanics.
You're all PUSSIES
for me, it's the demon's greataxethe spiral staircase in anor londo makes it so you can't backstab or be backstabbedyou can do a full 180 degree turn with the r2i would bait bluefags with the slow ass charge then immediately turn em into pancakes when they went for the backstabgood times
the best weapon is quelaag's furysword cause it has a cool black spikes and a cool fire trail and basically nothing gets closer in coolness
>>743290434If you reach 99 strength you should be able to use 2handed swords as a 1handed. >tfw wielding a zweihänder like a broadsword via mods
My first playthrough was using medium armor, dex swords (katana, rapier, dagger, short sword and all that shit) and scythealso the repeating crossbow with magical arrows, that shit hit HARD and even deleted that corridor elf boss in like 2 rounds
>>743290721>>743291060Decent bait.
>>743290721I use the knight shield for swag points but roll through every hit and use it one-handed.
>>743291756DS2 has much better female faces and the desert sorcerer set
>>743334950what if you play with no armor at all?
>>743290434This but the Iaito
>>743332706my bae in DS2
>>743315107Based.Zweihander is the best when it comes to ultra greatswords.
>Slash you across the face>Poke your ass when you roll awayThis moveset was awesome. I ruined a lot of people's day with this back in the iron bridge days.
3 playthroughs later and I still can't get enough of this beauty.
>>743337678I'm sure it's a fine looking sword but this entire image just looks like a pile of vomit.Make a game called "Dark Souls", promise fancy lighting, fail to deliver and roll it back and what you get is this. Something this formless and evenly lit has never been this painful to look at.I'm going to keep ragging on this game from 2014 ad infinity because they deserve it.
>>743291870>no shieldThat bars you from using parrys which is an intended game mechanic.
Not Dark Souls, but DaS3. I main the hollowslayer and that ring that increases poise. I was sunbro'ing a random player when an invader appeared. He reeks of tryhard and tries to parry on the third swing (you can get out stunlock on the third swing), and tries baiting a parry if I use a dash then swing. And the hollowslayer has good poise so I always win the exchange. Invader couldn't touch the host. Also I used to host a fight club in that watery basement in that area before Anor Londo using the same build--invaders take turns in killing me. I missed those days.
>>743290434>Cross guard clips into armpitNah it's shit.
>>743337985Why and how do you make a metal inlay into something made of rock?This is a real question. I could be missing something because it looks like it's made of the yellow paint metal.
>>743290434Is it ok if i use guides for hidden stuff since the ptde online is dead and the remastered online is shit and cant run 3rd party software very well on linux?
>>743338071I have no idea... magic perhaps?Really thought Miyazaki would give me an even better hammer to play with in the DLC, but he didn't.
>>743338229Sure, have your fun anon.
>>743338229Any way you wanna play is okay. What's not okay is giving a shit if people think it's okay.
>>743290509fpbp
>>743290434Welcome the TRUE king, nigger
>>743301686
>>743290509
>>743290434>demon souls = bone smasher>dark souls = zweihander/great club>dark souls 2 = greatsword/great club>dark souls 3 = ledo's great hammer>elden ring = giant crusher
>elite knight set>grass crest shield>claymore>havel and FAP ring>40 endurance>fast roll everywhereGenuinely my favorite build to use.
>>743310596when did you start HRT
>>743290434Wrong
>>743292681The two daggers dropped by new londo ghosts are pretty good for the first half of the game, because they are twinkling titanite so you can pump them up. You can farm them straight away with some transient curses you get down there.
The claymore is nice but I would rather use the zweihander. DS1 zweihander is so much fun. I also love>great scythe>garg halberd
You're supposed to use all the weapons tactically in their correct situations instead of spending all your titanite on one weapon.
Almost finished replaying through this. What shoould I play next? I haven't played any other souls game
>>743340514play the other souls games. duh.
>>743340536makes sense
>>743340415Maybe for later souls games. But Dark Souls 1's bosses pretty much all have flat resistances for all types of physical damages. There's not much of a point in picking slash over strike, and elements like fire, magic and lightning, can be accessed through spells instead. I think that's also a very underrated flaw in the game.
>>743327318G-gomenosai... Zanzibart-sama...
>>743339761>
>>743299894#1. thats the point,#2 for like 10 years after dark souls 1 came out the prevailing wisdom among the community was that shields are useless because gatekeepers told noobs that when the game came out and noobs tried using shields to see for themselves but they didnt know you needed to upgrade them for them to be good.so yeah many people actually thought shields were bad and didnt know that they were told not to use them because they actually trivialize the game.
>>743298136you mean the last boss? most late game bosses are actually glass cannons
>>743327318or use deflecting hardtear
For me it's Occult Barbed Straight Sword for maximum edge.
>>743341185
>>743337678I loved this thing on my first playthrough. Surprisingly good for both pve and pvp, looks cool, fun to use. 10/10 weapon.
>>743342402it's over for you
>>743342673*teleports behind you*
>>743341613Giant specifically. He was the one that made me figure out what bleed did and get a weapon with it.
>>743342862>heh... not too bad, kid>but not fast enough
>>743343462>switches to washing pole >spams running R1s You shouldn’t have made me angry.
>>743290434>His scrawny indian hands were unable to lift a zweihander
>>743313210Lucerne is good because it shits out absurd damage even without the leo ring, but it's moveset is complete dogshit to "balance" it. The way you play with the Lucerne is to equip it, use a melee quality build, and pretend in your head that your character is swinging it properly.
>>743305191Technically, all catalysts are clubs (or spears, depending on the shape) and should share the corresponding R1 moveset. All that changes is how flimsy they are, which is baked into the AR value.
>>743345928for me its the warpick with some fat poisey armor
>>743336779If you level strength you should be able to throw around consumables and fireballs like baseballs. Lies of P had the right idea about giving consumables STR and DEX scaling.
>>743342673>>743342862>>743343462whenever I see these type of images I wonder if the people in these images has seen these images after all these years while on the internet and regret taking those photos
