GRRRRRRRRRRRR I hate fallout 4 Back when I wasn't addicted to social media and th internet, I loved playing Fallout 4 because it was a fun looter shooter game. But then the internet, jewtube, plebbit and fourchan told me that ACKTSCHUALLY fallout 4 is LE BAD!!! and I have to hate the game so now I hate the game. Stupid Fallout 4 game. Stupid, stupid game.
Every single 3D Bethesda game sucks ass, you zoomer nigger. Go back to your containment website.
>>743296131>Fallout 4 chad is a humanGAWD.>Old gayme niggres are CLANKERS!
>>743296253>FO4 ""chad""That's a "Tom Of Finland" gay nigger, you sweet summer child.
Fallout 4 isn't so bad, HOWEVER;There is not a single interesting quest or character, that is an objective fact
as if people here weren't taking the piss out of FO4 when it launched
>>743296362Yeah it's best played when you ignore the main quest and just travel aroundThis is why F76 is their best game - no main quest, nothing to fuck up
I don’t care about Fallout but social media has exposed how retarded humans are
>>743296067you base your opinions on what other people tell you? what are you a retard?
>>743296067It's easily the best Fallout game
>>743296067>Voiced player character>Even more forced story intrigue than in 3, where you're mostly just chasing your dad, but now you're le chasing your son>The gay new perk system>How little your bases gets raided, that base building is only useful for quick XPLMAO
>>743296556>where you're mostly just chasing your dad, but now you're le chasing your sonAnd in Fallout 5 you'll be playing as Walton Goggins looking for his Daughter and Wife, it will be kino.
>>743296067It's crazy how much shit this game gets despite it obviously being the best one
>>743296710>despite it obviously being the best oneNo that's 76
>>743296650Should've been David Goggins, so you can chase that GRIIIIIND!
>>743296067Why do bethesda niggers even bother leaving the subreddit? Fallout 4 IS shit. I bet you were still sucking on lollypops and doing your math homework when everyone else mocked it for voiced protags, garbage writing, embarassing "choice system" and horrible technical state. Bethesda is a god-awful company that never released anything decent, I can't believe jewish game journos brainwashed people into thinking their trash is acceptable.>>743296710>omg guyse this shit game in a shit franchise is da best one!!!!!1!!!>>743296751PFFFFHAHAHAHAHAHAHow much money did you sacriface to Bethesda to form such a retarded "opinion"?
>>74329675176 is an easy skip, like idk why anyone would bother to play that.
>>743296923Fallout 4 is the shit. It has the best crafting, gunplay, it has settlements, factions, it has endless radiant quests, no level cap, modding. Everyone who hates on it is the biggest retard ever.
>>74329693576 is easily the best one, like idk why anyone would skip that.
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>>743296067And yet it's the one people play. Curious.
>>743296973Holy fucking shit. Please go back to the subreddit and take your dogshit taste with you. I'm getting a headache from your tasteless normalfag idiocy.>>743296979Triple digit? Thousands? More than that? How bad is the buyer's remorse?
>>743296067wow another fagout 4 thread!if you see this post your mother will die this week in her sleep, no immunities
>>743297076You will not win in this fight, the Steam numbers do not lie, you lost.
>>743297039Almost like what passes for the "Fallout fanbase" today consists of nothing but women, pajeets, kids and idiots who do't understand why the first game in their beloved series has 3 on the box.
>>743297076uh oh looney troon having a melty!
>>743297076I have zero buyer's remorse from Fallout 4 and 76, the best Fallout games of all time
>>743297127>steam numbersPFFFFFFFFHAHAHAHAHAHAHAPlease go back to your friends, normalfag.
>>743297149Bethesda garbage is for troons. Shouldn't you be running around with your female character and hundreds of porn mods right now...?>>743297164Triple digits confirmed. Alright.
>>743296067>unironically listening to /v/Holy kek
Why does Fallout 4 and 76 make browns seethe so much?
>>743297203and the mentally ill tranny is projecting
>>743296067Kys yourself retard
>>743296067you're gay
>>743296067>Back when I wasn't addicted to social media and th internet, I loved playing Fallout 4 because it was a fun looter shooter game.Oh and where did you learn to call a survival game with light RPG elements a looter shooter? Reddit? Twitter? You were always addicted to social media you poser.
>>74329643476 does have a main quest. It ends with a whimper and no notice on the scorchbeast queen battle though.Oddly enough, the game does have some really excellent sidequests. The Mistress of Mystery line isn't bad at all, and the whole baa baa black sheep stuff is really good. More so that it doesn't actually end when the quest ends, and continues the trail of the family in other seemingly unrelated quests later.
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>>743297172You fat and stinky
>>743297272Few people are more mentally ill than bethesda cultists (which should stay on reddit btw)
>>743296067I skipped Fallout 4 for a long time because it seemed like a major downgrade from 3 and New VegasI tried playing it a few years ago, and I was right, it is a total piece of shit downgradeIt lacks the "soul" of Fallout, which had been growing weaker with each entry
>>743296131>guys I like F1&2, I'm one of the big boys!Is reddit down or something?
>>743297486yeah no trannies are fucking insane freaks.
Fallout 4 came out in 2015We're arguing with children who played it when they were 10Of course they're going to think it was awesome, they have no frame of referenceThis is fucked up, arguing about games online is a waste of timeEveryone pack up and go home
>>743297568Clearly, because Bethesda cultists like you are instead chimping out ITT.>>743297589Sounds like they'd feel right at home at your subreddit. You have to be insane to still suck off Bethesda in 202X.
>>743297568Fallout 3 + 4 are the most popular Fallout subjects on Reddit
>>743297507You are turd world who can't run games made in the past 20 years. Fallout 4 is the best Fallout and that is reality.
>>743297631>YOU CAN'T ARGUE ABOUT THIS GAME!!!!then leave you nigger lol
>>743297698Bye anon, enjoy rolling in the mud with the piggies
>>743297697Holy based
>>743296067I hated fallout 4 day 1 though. I dont care what people online think. I just picked it up day 1 and found it really boring and tedious compared to 3 and NV. I also hated how the guns worked.
>>743296067I played Fallout 4 for the first time this year and it quickly became my favorite one. There's so much less meandering like there was in New Vegas. It gets you right into the action, I was killing a fucking deathclaw within half an hour. I finally get why Bethesda hasn't made another yet, how the fuck do they top it.
>>743296067>you need le internet to tell the obvious downgrade is le badLol, le retard.
>>743297697This now? Turd worlders love bethesda's fallout because America looking like their home and having the same level of "society" is highly appealing to them.
>apps.38718.13800877914762687.ddbc3efa-94d1-4459-b82c-d63d4eec437fGRRRRRRRR I hate mobileniggers
>>743297420>76 does have a main quest. It ends with a whimper and no notice on the scorchbeast queen battle though.I actually beat the final quest without doing anything >Bethesda creates public teams>There are only benifits to being in a team and no obligation to actually work as a team>Create a casual team>Others join >Don't think anything of it >Suddenly I get a notification that I beat the game because one of my teammates finished the final mission by himself And that's how I beat the game. Scavenging for lead while some did all the work for me.
>>743297663looney troon you have said reddit more than anyone in this thread.
Fallout 4 won
>>743296434Fo76 is bad because the only thing that makes Bethesda games good is the ability to mod it to your exact specifications and tastes. A Bethesda game you can't mod is a bad Bethesda game.
Convince me that the thread isn't brigaded by neo vagal discord trannys
>>743296067Just say you like to mindlessly go through this world and enjoy the gameplay of shooting and looting. There are people like you that like slop and there's nothing wrong with that.
>>743297862I can't
>>743297731buh bye faggot
>>743297835Yeah, almost like anything bethesda is peak reddit.>>743297862Yeah, I'm sure the bethesda discord is involved in this too.
>>743297862Coomer/Coombrain was a discord psyop and no one cared, Epstein was right about people who want to be cattle.
>>743296067This rings true more with Fallout 3 because for a solid 8 years, Fallout 3 was never hated by more than an extraordinarily small but vocal number of people (including this shithole). But after this turd came out, the criticisms of Fallout 3 were subsequently validated and the hate for it turned nuclear. It was no longer the first decent attempt at a game by a different developer, which was then improved on by its sequel; it was a complete teardown of the series where its sequel was the outlier and its developers were shitheads. If this game was good, hate for 3 would've fizzled out, like how less people bash Samus Returns after Dread was well-liked, or how less people shit on 2016 after Eternal. Instead, you've got people who've never played Fallout 3 pretend it's the worst POS ever to exist merely by association. So nope, it sucks. Emil and Todd should be ashamed of themselves. They had New Vegas to learn from and they tried to pretend it didn't exist. We got the worst possible outcome for Fallout thanks to sheer developer arrogance.
>>743296067I like Fallout 4 because I can mod it until it plays more like a survival shooter and I can ignore most of the quests that aren't specifically touched up. The mod that blows up the starting power armor is essential. Making PA rarer and an asshole to power so you basically have to wait until you can use the vertibird transports (because I modded out fast travel as well) to actually use it far from your base is also good. Basically Fo4 is a good base for modding into a specific kind of game that otherwise doesn't exist. It's like STALKER but not quite. That's why I like it. Vanilla the game is fucking trash.
>>743298745>They had New Vegas to learn from and they tried to pretend it didn't exist. Fallout 4 copies most of the changes NV made though. This narrative is so retarded.
>>743298745I don't like a good chunk of early-main quest, but side-questing and exploring is solid in 3, gameplay is solid enough to be 95% of New Vegas's gameplay. When I see "nuclear" comments about 3, it's usually the rigid/non-flexible story and the beats it throws at you.New Vegas is one of the better RPG starts in the shooter side of it all, because you aren't so bogged down by pre-set narrative "anchors", like your father, Vault 101, stupid bitch and her Overseer father. The only fun part was the Tunnel Snake kid and his growth, but that whole intro is so bare and other criticisms like just following your dad's footsteps, are so lame. It's a WRPG shooter, that feels at times like a JRPG in writing with its cliches.
>>743297861You can mod f76 thoughbeitYou guys should really really stop parroting each other without checking
>>743298927Yeah the faction system was definitely inspired by NV. Other than that, 4 didn't even learn from Fallout 3 let alone NV.
>>743297420>It ends with a whimper and no notice on the scorchbeast queen battle though.i was actually upset because the chain about the scorchbeast researchers and stuff was kind of compelling and then it basically instantly stops mattering because immediately after in the narrative, you just create a cure so all that shit you've been doing was basically just pointlessly listening to zombie apocalypse diary entries. there's no denouement or feeling of doing something particularly grand, you just kill a skyrim dragon >mistress of misteryi dont like this oneits at once too long and too short and relies a lot of the conceit of the lady wanting to larp as the superhero she played while also having a magical genius partner that fabricates all this shit. i dont know why bethesda is desperately pushing their GCU (grognak cinematic universe) on us >baa baa black sheepthis one was finei like that the guy in it actually doesnt fucking die which is true of basically every other story in the base game to the point of being completely contrived
>>743299057It learned from both of them. almost every single gameplay change made in Fo4 was based off of Fo3/NV mods, and requests on places like the forums. There's also not onlt more quests than Fo3, but these quests tend to have more choices to make in them than Fallout 3.
>>743298927>Fallout 4 copies most of the changes NV made though>Removed karma system>Removed reputation system>Removed skill system>Removed durability system>Removed perk/skill checks >Removed traits system>Removed ammo types
>>743299170>There's also not onlt more quests than Fo3, but these quests tend to have more choices to make in them than Fallout 3.Yeah, like what gun to shoot the raiders with.
Fallout 4 always sucked balls, literally one of the ugliest games ever made. Whoever decided to turn Fallout in to a pop-y, bright and colourful world filled with disgusting, melted-candle characters didn't know shit about the series.
>>743299170>There's also not onlt more quests than Fo3, but these quests tend to have more choices to make in them than Fallout 3.Stop talking, ESL.
>>743299265>Removed karma systemEven NV fags said the karma system was dumb because it applies objective good/evil morality in what is supposed to be a morally gray setting.>Removed reputation systemThe reputation system in NV was completely broken, and created more issues than it solved by having you become vilified for shit no one could see you do(like launching the nukes in the divide, or killing Legion soldiers out in the wasteland) whereas Fallout 4 keeping factional opinion changes more curated to specific triggers achieved the same thing, but kept it more consistent.>Removed skill systemThe 1-100 skill system was designed for character skill based tabletop RPGs. Fallout 3 and NV were first person, player skill based, ARPGs. Because of them being ARPGs, and player skill being the ky factor, skill had already been watered down to the point that you could go 20-25 points in a skill before getting any meaningful upgrades. Fallout 4 just changed that to a 4-5 rank perk where each rank = 20-25 points of the skill since that's how the game played anyways.>Removed durability systemSomething Fallout 1/2 didn't have, and that was just a holdover from Elder Scrolls which people didn't like/want. Also, item durability in games is always ass since it only works by making it grossly over exaggerated to how things actually decay IRL.>Removed ammo typesAmmo types in NV did nothing anyways since the entire DT armor system was busted to begin with. Even if they did, there was never any reason to use them since you go so much regular ammo, and buying/crafting alternative ammo took significantly more time. Fo4 giving guns legendary effects achieved a similar result, but in a less tedious way.>Removed traits systemTraits are garbage in every game anyways since they force you to pick major defining aspects of your character before you've actually played the game to know how it plays. Resulting in forcing people to meta game, and look shit up online
What is so bad about other people pointing out flaws in a piece of media you like. You can be a brain dead retard and keep slurping up open world shooter slop all you want but trying to ignore or denying the fact that theres something wrong about it is objectively bad.
>>7432960674 is really good... but NV is still betterNV>>>>>4>3>>2>>>>1
>>743299639This is the typical Bethesda fag cope, only thing that matters is a big map to loot and shoot in so any improvement is bad or unnesecary.
Fallout 3 was genuinely one of the worst games I ever played. I think it's impressive to create a game that wants to show off so many different aspects in the tutorial alone but all are horrible and the biggest praise I can give is that the game didn't self destruct my computer. At least Fallout 4 doesn't feel AS shit to play but that is all.>m-muh troon vegasTroon vegas is just a shitty FO3 mod and after playing that I understood why I never liked Tranny Vegas in the first place.>Y-YOU'RE ZOOMER AND ADHD ANDI actively play ascii-based roguelikes and printed out manuals while playing old dos-based CRPGs. Dilate.
>>743296067I played fallout 4 for half an hour before deciding it was shit and never playing it again, just like I did with Skyrim.
>>743299784This but 1 is better than NV
>>743299789Except all of those changes were improvements.THIS is the typical Obshitiot cope>There's no way any of these things were bad or just fundamentally broken because muh white knight Obsidian made them! Bethesda bad for not doing the same broken things!
>>743299817Based Fallout 4 enjoyer
>>743296362Define what you believe is an interesting quest or character. Use an example, specifically, named.
>>743296556If you want more raids build less or no defenses idiot.
>>743299639>Even NV fags said the karma system was dumb because it applies objective good/evil morality in what is supposed to be a morally gray setting.The karma system isn't meant to be an indicator of your core morality. It's meant to be a reflection of how other characters see you. It's not like Fable where you start to grow horns and shit if you do something morally reprehensible, you just get locked out of taking some companions. >whereas Fallout 4 keeping factional opinion changes more curated to specific triggers achieved the same thing, but kept it more consistent.LOL what a piss poor lie. You can kill ten Brotherhood soldiers or Minutemen and they'll still keep you employed and even still follow you as their leader, it doesn't mean shit in 4 whether you kill anyone as long as it doesn't aggro the whole faction. >Something Fallout 1/2 didn't have, and that was just a holdover from Elder Scrolls which people didn't like/wantEnough people wanted it that it made it back into 76.>Ammo types in NV did nothing anywaysPlay hardcore Jsawyer where DT got rebalanced. NV's difficulty got dumbed down for 4tards like you.>Traits are garbage in every game anyways since they force you to pick major defining aspects of your character before you've actually played the game to know how it playsOh no! That's how roleplaying is meant to be. Being at a disadvantage because you don't know what to minmax is part of the experience. Metagaming isn't an argument.
>>743299639Karma was good in Fallout 3, because you were playing as a predetermined character with a specific background. It's insight into their morality, how they feel when doing things.
>>743299918When did I say that I enjoyed it. It doesn't feel as shit as 3 or NV, but still is a bad shooter and bad rpg.
>>743300146What is a good RPG?
>>743297971>Coomer/Coombrain was a discord psyopto what end?
>>743299917Not him but half of those things were introduced in Fallout 3, a Bethesda Fallout. Bethesda knew those things were objectively good in every way for a roleplaying game, but in a vague attempt to protest against Obsidian's superiority, they removed every RPG mechanic they had previously championed years prior. Because this brought in a lot of dumb niggers like you who were used to playing oversimplified consoleslop, they pretended as though this made their games "better", when in reality it made them worse.
>>743300105>It's meant to be a reflection of how other characters see you.That is what reputation is for.>Enough people wanted it that it made it back into 76.Item condition is one of the most complained about parts of 76, and no one likes it there.>Play hardcore Jsawyer where DT got rebalanced. That is a mod, and has nothing to do with the game as released.>That's how roleplaying is meant to be.This isn't how roleplaying was ever meant to be. >LOL what a piss poor lie. You can kill ten Brotherhood soldiers or Minutemen and they'll still keep you employed and even still follow you as their leader, it doesn't mean shit in 4 whether you kill anyone as long as it doesn't aggro the whole faction. Who would've guess that if you kill some Minutemen, or BoS soldiers, out in the middle of nowhere, where no one is around to see it, the faction wont care because they have no reason to know! That's just basic logic. something NV failed at.
>>743299862This but 2 is better than 4.
>>743300257Anything that bases itself around good writing and storytelling ROLE PLAYING instead of fucking around in le open world and grinding mobs for items and xp.
>>743301025Examples?
>>743300468>That is what reputation is for.Reputation is how the factions see you. Karma is how the average population of the wasteland sees you. Sometimes these mechanics can interact with each other, like if you were roleplaying a heroic Legionary or a no-nonsense NCR-aligned mercenary. It's meant to be an abstraction of the classic alignment system in D&D, a foundational aspect of this genre is games trying to emulate tabletop. That's what sets RPGs apart from other genres.>Item condition is one of the most complained about parts of 76, and no one likes it there.Seriously, git gud. >That is a mod, and has nothing to do with the game as released.It's how the game was meant to be if Sawyer had more time.>This isn't how roleplaying was ever meant to be. Oh my mistake, roleplaying is about minmaxing your characters at level 1 and plowing through the game becoming a jack of all trades, taking every perk and advantage. Fallout 4's perk system is not all that different from the one in Call of Duty Ghosts. >Who would've guess that if you kill some Minutemen, or BoS soldiers, out in the middle of nowhere, where no one is around to see it, the faction wont care because they have no reason to know!I killed like ten of my settlers around Preston, and he never gave a single fuck. I shot multiple Brotherhood soldiers at the airport, came back a few days later and everyone had forgotten. Bethesda just couldn't be bothered with something as deep as the reputation system.
