>intel releases cheap strong processors that compete with ryzens x3d for 20% less >nobody here discusses themWhy?
no one has cared about CPUs ever since 7800X3D got released
>>743300947Well 250k+ is only 5% weaker in gaming for 20% lessThat's massive
Because we need RAM
>>743300636because this is the VIDEO GAME board faggot. Go to /g/ if you want to talk about nerd shit like computer hardware
>>743300636Nice cope.
>>743300636i would buy the 270k plus but i would have to upgrade my motherboard which means i would have to buy new ram and as someone who is sitting on 64GB of DDR4 right now i cant afford 64GB of DDR5 and i dont wan to downgrade my ram amount even if it means i get a better cpu
>>743300636If only it was 20% lessWhen I bought a 9800x3d the intel one was more expensive and ran on more powerI'm gud
>>743301142Buy ddr4 motherboard that supports that cpu
im never buying Intel again, fucking jew company
>>743301351the Intel Core Ultra 7 270K Plus only supports DDR5 memory,
>>743300636Nobody cares about high end cpu competition when 70% of a rig's cost is just the GPU
>>743300636>nobody here discusses themif you want to discuss the pros of core ultra take it to /g/ pcbg and convince some poor faggot currently thinking about buying parts to adopt the platform.
I don't want to sound too poor but everyone is knocking down DDR4 +AM4 builds which can more than destroy the PS5 performance. and im not even a PC tard. Some of you guys only post rage bait hardware.
>>743301746because you can only get AM4 parts seconds hand, and thats a big no for most people
Because I'm still on DDR4.
>>743300636i got that same chip to replace my 12600k. it's been a great cpu considering the price.
>>743301746if you building a new pc for a ddr4 platform wouldn't lga 1200 or 1700 be the better option for second hand/ chink reseller market.
ban pc hardware threads this aint /g/
>>743302238Janitor acceptance emails will be sent out over the coming weeks. Make sure to check your spam folder!
>>743300636Because it's more of a /g/ topic than a /v/ topic. I love my 270k plus
>>743300636Because nobody can buy RAM right now so nobody is building new computers.But the new Intel series is pretty cool. I'll stick with my 9800X3D right now though because I got it for £250.
>ESL bullshithope you're getting paid for it, asshole.
>>743300636I not building a new computer in this economy lmao fuck you
>>743303447250K Plus is $200.9600X is $280.
is the 7800x3d the modern i5 2500k?
>>743303571it's $180, you just can't stop bullshitting.
>>743303571>9600X is $280are these prices in India sir?
>>743303447what's the chart meant to prove?
>>743300636I play at 4k60 so cpu is irrelevant.
>>743303597probably, that CPU wont be obsolete in the next 10 years>>743303740>posting only 1 game comparisonhello Intel jew
>>743303806here's another one, sheep
you just can't beat ryzen value for money. they're good at basically everything while intel still falls short in many areas. they're not even as effiecient as ryzen for similar performance. the upgrade path on ryzen is great too. i know a guy who went from a 3600 like 8 years ago to a 5700x recently all on the same motherboard and same ram. intel kinda had similar support but the 13 and 14 series were literal housefires.
AMD software is hot dogshit but they make good hardware. Linux is almost required because of how retarded DirectX drivers are.
>>743303740>change resolution to 1440p>now framerates are identicalwow
>>743303659>>743303720The NEW Intel Core Ultra 5 250K Plus is available from Newegg right now for $219.99.It includes a FREE MSI MAG 240mm Radiator and an intel Spring Game Bundle, a total combined value of nearly $140.(Offer only whilst stocks last)By comparison, AMD will only let you get an (inferior) 9600X for $220.You'd have to be retarded to get a 9600X.
>>743304137waste of money, AM5 motherboards will let you upgrade to zen 7 down the line.it's OVER for intelaviv
>>743300636unless you're playing CPU-intensive games (aka city builders and life sims) you won't need anything better than a DDR5 capable X3D CPU.
>>743300981i got a 7800x3d for $300 three years ago. until intel is beating the pants off amd, just dont care. and anyone who waited™ and is building a computer now is retarded.
>>743301884my local PC store has new AM4 cpus and mobos. its probably around 40% AM4, 60% AM5
>>743300636>dead platform
>>743300636because WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO GET RAM FOR THAT NIGGER EVERY MOBO THAT CPU FITS NEEDS DDR5
>>743303740>>743303886>1080p mediumevery fucking time
>>743300981its also 3 years older than the 250k+. its a great budget cpu for new builders but id rather have a 9800x3d and just not have to upgrade for the forseeable future.
>>743300981Which one is more power hungry at full load? Which is more power hungry at idle? How's the tdp?
>>743304137and you can never upgrade you CPU so whats the fucking point? only a low IQ retard would ever buy an Intel CPU
>>743304679Okay, but if you buy the 9800X3D you're locked into AM5, which means you need DDR5 memory.So, you're going to be spending like $500 on 32GB.If you go for the 250K+ you can use either DDR4 or DDR5 and DDR4 is like half the price.Like yeah, there's better options in terms of raw performance, but 250K+ is currently the price/performance king in a market where prices are retarded for everything.
>>743300636this is a VG board. Its pathetic to advertise here.
>>743300636>Intel-Aviv
because nobody cares about dead end platforms
>IntelFuck no lol
>>743304875If you have an AM5 CPU, what possibly worthwhile upgrade are you going to do before they release AM6, or DDR6 releases?If you're looking into buying a PC right now, you have to realistically expect in the next 3-4 years, your motherboard won't be compatible with the new stuff that comes out. Because that's where we're at in AM5's lifespan, whatever the fuck intel's socket's lifespan and DDR5 itself.
bit late for intel to be coming out with competitive products when the rest of the PC is unafforadble, if you're building in 2026 you're getting fucked regardless of CPU choice
>>743300636>KiketelIt's not 2015 anymore grandpa
>>743305061i can upgrade to a used 11800X3D in 2034 and it will mog any Intel CPU
>still on a gen 6 i7i don't think i'll ever upgrade
>>743300636nobody is buying new cpus and mobos cause ram is extremely expensive
>>743300636>new chip comes out>with a new socket>need to buy new motherboard to install it
>>743303886Cope.>>743304565Bait or retarded? Call it.
>>74330519311800X3D is going to be be AM6.AMD has said they want AM6 by 2028. They're not going to do the 10XXX series in 2027 and then 11800 in 2028.
>>743305320post a benchmark on 1440p where 99% of players with those CPUs are gonna play
I genuinely stopped even looking at stuff after i built my 9800X3D platform.I have a feeling this one will be another 2600k for me, used that from 2011 to 2018, i think i have at least 5 more years with the 9800X3D
>>743305386they said that for AM4 and the continued support for 5 more yearsthey are not gonna change to AM6 in the middle of a RAM crisis
ACK
>>743305459Support is not the same as it being their flagship platform.
>>743300636CPU became irrelevant to gaming ages agoeven the most bottom of the barrel budget CPU can do +100fps if the GPU is not the bottleneck
>>743305647what does that even mean retard? they are still making AM4 X3D chips
>>743305391
>>743300636>>743305320>gets beaten by AM4 chips on DDR4-3200put this in cheap prebuilds and stop shilling it on my videogame board
>>743305391People playing in 1440p often use dlss upscaled from 1080p. 1080p or even 720p are the only graphs worth looking at.Not to mention most games are bottlenecked by the CPU unless you play movie slop games.
>>743305705so its basically the same, so what retard would buy an Intel CPU and block any future upgrades
>>743305762then find me a benchmark that uses DLSS
Intel released defective cpus, didn't recall them. So jews could buy Intel cheap.
>>743304890ddr4 is still expensive and you are absolutely tanking your 1% lows by using it. i suppose if you have exsisting ddr4 sticks and are wanting to cut costs while upgrading an old system its not an awful idea but we are in an era where building an entirely new pc is going to be expensive either way so perfomance kinda becomes more attractive especially with gaming becomes more and more demanding.
>>743300636because the last intel cpu i bought burnt up from normal use. i'm just not going to buy any more of your products. it costs me less to buy an AMD which has lasted me longer than my incel CPU than it is to buy a bunch of cheaper incel CPUs that are apparently shittier but cheaper.it's funny, AMD used to be the budget brand!
>>743301746>destroy the PS5Ps5 its on late lifecycle now with ps6 coming next year, you have been able to surpass the ps5 half a decade ago, you should be worrying about matching ps6 performance next year.
>got a 9070xt>installed a 5500x3d just today because 5800x3d is way too expensiveAll this power, and I'm gonna play old games on it!
Intel is still recovering from the UH OH STINKY they made with the Meltdown, the Specter hardware backdoors and also defective new CPUs rusting to pieces.oh and all the DDR5 ram being bought up by Sam Altman
My 12400 is still more than enough, I won't fall for the upgrade jew
>>743303740>Marvel Rivals Not a cpu bound game
>>743300636shit I thought all intelaviv shills got hit by Iranian missiles
>>743306152>9070XTThat's rough bro.
>>743306051continuing, the 250k is pretty good but its hard for it to shine right now. pc building is kinda for the well off/rich atm.
>>743304890if anything I'm glad microcenter exists, I got a mobo, the CPU and 32gb of ram for $600
i dont get why people talk that much about cpus, in my experience, as long as the cpu doesnt bottleneck your gpu, performance should be almost identical, that being said, some ryzen chips have fantastic iGPUs and you can play pretty much everything worth playing on a 5600g integrated gpu, old intel chips had decent iGPUs as well
>>743306279yeah that's rough bro using a gpu thats 1000x faster than what vanilla wow players used
>>743306387I got my shit in November last year.Probably used up all my luck for this life.
>>743306279How? Shits way cheaper than a 5070ti/.
>>743306008The real 1080p benchmark is the same as the 1440p with dlss, or even 4k with dlss preformance. That was the point of my post.
>>743306152just got myself a 5500x3D as well, was thinking about upgrading my 6700xt to a 9070/xt but to be honest, is there a single game out there worth upgrading for? just like you said old games end up being more fun, just started FO3 and will play OoT next, new games suck
>>743300636I completely fell out of hardware news shit after the microchip AI apocalypse. I will go watch a positive Hardware Unboxed video for the memories, thank you
>>743306518And significantly worse unless you pick cherry-picked reviews that disable Pathtracing and shit.
>>743300636>inTel Avivtoo late, they have cemented themselves as shitters with generation after generation of dogshit CPU releasesthey need to build a strong GPU division to fuck over njeetia
>>743300636>le totally genuine totally not intel marketing thread on /v/ has arrived
>>743306659nta but not even 5070ti is enough for path tracing so why bother
>>743303740>>743303886why don't you post the average the benchmarks are from?oh right, because it disproves your point you retarded shillthe 9800x3d is 32% faster than the 250k plus on average
>>743300636The singular reason you'd buy intel on current year is because you are a giga retarded goycattle who will just throw away your entire pc next year for a new socket. It makes no sense to anyone with a functional brain. Even if it was $1 I wouldn't buy a dead socket offering 5yo performance today.
>>743306927forgot to attach it
>>743300636the 245k is only $180 and can run any game at 100+ fps and often with better frametimes than the $500 X3D AMD CPU's too. It's the best price/performance ratio in the market right now and we can assume the Nova Lake version releasing soon is gonna be even better.
>>743306927>Le more expensive part is...>More performant...????Are you just stupid or something?The 250K+ Ultra Plus MGL edition or whatever retarded naming convention Intel have come up with competes with the 9600X, not the 9800X3D which is like twice the price.
>>743306569Probably not.I mostly did it because I was on a 3070 and wanted to drive my 1440p monitor better.>>743306659And the 5070ti is also significantly more expensive.
>>743307025are you retardedthe claim in the op was that it competes with the x3dsit doesn'tmind that intel's shitware is using silicon that's a whole fucking process newer and it's still on par with the non x3d partsthey're going to get fucking stomped when amd releases next gen cpus
>>743306659>cherry-picked reviews that disable Pathtracingpathtracing is a cherrypick, nvidia jeetno one wants to play games at sub 60 fps in 2026
>>743306985>up to 14 coresRemember when AMD was taken to court for fake cores? What happened? Up to is an extremely jewish way to describe anything.
After the fucking enormous security vulnerabilities and performance degradation of previous Intel chips, no I see no reason to change off of Ryzen let alone trust Intel for anything
>>743306659the fucking irony of this post lmao
I bought a cheap AM4 build before prices went up. A non X3D 5800X was 150 Euro for a short time and good enough 2x16G 3200 CL16 kit with dual rank DIMMs was 70 Euro. As long as it doesn't die on me I'll be using it for a decade or more like the Phenom II X4 955 build I had before.
>>743300636CPU is a tiny fraction of a PC's cost. To compete with a $900 PS5 Pro you need>$100 PSU>$200 CPU>$200 mobo>$500 SSD>$1000 RAM>$3000 GPU
>>743307129The graph you posted literally shows it beating the 5800X3D.What the fuck is the 5800X3D if not an X3D CPU?
Because no one's building a rig with those prices.
>>743300636Intel forces you to upgrade your motherboard for every new cpu they releasewhy would you want to be forced into a dead platform just so you can save 50 bucks
>>743307085>>743307212>>743307246>Spends $800 on a 9070XT>In order to play games without modern settings.>Probably not even at 4K.Do you not think that's a retarded waste of money?
>>743300636I'd have to buy a new motherboard to use it and if I'm doing an upgrade I'd probably want more ram too, and we all know how that's going to go.
>whynigga I have no money and everything is 8x the price it used to beit's over for me
You can game comfortably on shit made 6 years ago. And you'd have to be a fool to trust Intel after they made multiple generations of mediocre to flat out flawed CPUs with dogshit wattages and prices.
>>743307392>RTX 4060Ti 16GB has about 2FPS less than its 8GB versionHUH?
>>743307272Not anymore. No PC can compete with PS5 in GTA VI.
>>743307470Memory speed is more important than memory capacity.
>>743307470vram doesn't matter until it does
>>743301884Didn't AMD just released a rerun of the 5800X3D and also released a 7700X3D for some reason?
>>743307392ah yes, people buy one specific card to play one game at just 60 fpsnow post the 1% and 0.1% lowscurious how you were seething about needing to use pathtracing and you post a benchmark of raytracing where amd beats nvidia's competing cards
>>743300636Man I made the move from AMD to intel back in 2016 because AMD was still stuck on AM3 (what a retard move that was) and I got a z170 and 6700k setup alongside a 1070. Not only did the z170 not have the longevity or upgrade path of AM4 but intel jewed out and locked the newer chips to different chipsets that use the same socket. Other than Mankind divided that released the same year as my setup, which ran like dogshit at 3440x1440, I only play games that even a HD 7970 could easily max out or even indieshit. I got a 3070 used last year though. I know even a cheap Ryzen would unlock more of this 3070 but I don't care for upgrading anymore man.
>>743307470I'm guessing die quality allows one to autoclock higher.
>>743303597No, because you can't overclock 7800X3D.
>>743307313an old cpuis barely beating the cpu that has started intel's total rape something to brag about?
I still rock a 2500k OC'ed @4.7 GhZ and I'm doing fine
>tfw 5800x3D
>>743307392Nope. I got my 9070XT for £600, the 5070ti is over £800 minimum.
>>743300636Does Intel still change sockets every other year?
>bought a 7800x3D for a game>it's optimized like shit so even though it runs well compared to everyone else's CPU, it still isn't that fastThis is why nobody cares, any game limited by CPU is probably a spaghetti mess of bad code that no amount of compute could fix.With GPUs at least there are levers you can pull. If a game is optimized like shit at least your fancy nvidia card can do some DLSS bullshit that makes it run significantly better. Or if you have performance to spare you can use DSR. What can you do with a CPU that's too weak? Nothing, it sucks. What can you do with a CPU that's overpowered? Nothing, it just runs normally.
>>743308093yes
Since this is a CPU thread I may as well ask, I bought 3700x when that was new and it's still fine 7 years later. I have zero interest in modern vidya but would upgrading to like 5700X3D help at all with loading times? Since that's the only thing it would improve.
>>743308205Nope
>>743308205depends on your resolution and gpu
>>743308205do you not have an m2 nvme ssd?
>>743308140Then that should answer op's question
>>743300636why bother when GPU, RAM and SSDs still cost an arm and a leg? not to mention that companies are increasing their prices in everything else too because retards still buy it.
>>743308130what game? let me guess, stalker 2
>>743308205the only thing a new/better cpu is going to do is faster times on certain apps, not games though, and it will allow you to use a more powerful GPU to its full potential, the 3700x is probably not that much slower than a 5700x3D for most tasks, but the 3D will allow you to use one of the newest gpus if you want that, so probably not worth it
>>743308541Europa Universalis 5
>>743300947This. If a game is CPU bottlenecked nowadays it's generally just unplayable garbage regardless of specs.
>>743308669how is begagnat formed
>>743303913AMD CPUs shit themselves on anything vidya I don't know what you're on aboutBad latency, bad chipsets because AMD outsources it to Assmedia, keep shitting themselves in any productivity software
>>743308748you're operating on bulldozer-era information, ryzen has utterly spanked intel in the interim
>>743308748did you just time travel from 2011? Did you know they're still releasing new versions of Skyrim?
>>743308748intelsaars aren't even trying anymorebad latency? nigger why are you making shit up
>>743305459The RAM crisis will be over in 3 years at most
>>743308321How are loading screens connected to resolution?
>>743300636My i7 4790K still plays all my games fine.
>>743300636>saar buy intel tel aviv right now saar
>>743300981Does this take into account the fact that X3D has the increased cache size which reduces all sorts of stuttering by a massive amount? Which is not just a raw fps comparison
>>743308828then some other made up crisis will show up and jack up prices again since companies now know that people will still pay at a 200% mark up
>>743307956>£600 for less than half the performance.Grim.
>>743300636>intelavivNo thanks
>>743308130I think it's the opposite.If your CPU is too slow for certain games there is little you can do about it. With GPU limited scenarios you can do a lot. Being CPU limited feels much worse than being GPU limited, stutters are the worst. CPUs are relatively cheap so for the small % of the total budget you will get a lot, X3D will also make your RAM latency less important.
>>743308205Get a better NVMe SSD
>>743300981>just buy worse procesor 3 years later after you bought last onewhat did he mean by this?
>>743308975you retarded or what?
Don't care about giving all my info to tel aviv
>>743309124Let me guess, PT and RT not included?
>>743308869>all of my games are a decade old
>and consumes 80% moreI think you forgot this little detail
It's really kinda silly how big GPUs are now.
>>743308947Probably the three biggest RAM manufacturers are going to get the shit sued out of them again (there's already a lawsuit in the works for this) for price collusion and being legally considerable as a cartel, and the EU will hold a manager accountable with prison time like the one back in the early 2000s (America held a manager accountable then but lmfao lmao lol no way Orange Man would see a "businessman" behind bars for any amount of time)RAM manufacturers hustling the entire planet is not actually a new thing, they were most likely emboldened by a lawsuit in 2018 for collusion not sticking
>>743308828so far nfts/crypto/ai have made GPUs double in price, ram triple and ssds also jump updo you really think prices are going down just because the ai bubble might burst? theres so much fucking money hinging on it, might take another 5+ years for everyone to realize its not that groundbreaking of a technology (at least in its current state)
>>743309178>RTyour fellow cretin has already proven that there's no difference in RT, >>743307392>PTsomething that is only playable on a 5070ti with half the frames being fake and rendered at 720p?
>>743309247They actually make stands to hold them up. They're so fucking heavy they can bend ports sometimes.if consumer GPUs keep getting made I think eventually they will just be a separate box with its own cooling and power supply.
>>743309301>First one was an FPS average.>Now a cherry picked example of one game.>Btw PT DOESN'T COUNT!!!!
>>743309095I tried running games off RAMdisk and that didn't improve loading times so I was thinking faster cpu is the only way.
>>743309371>no, you see, you should buy a 5070ti so you can endure the humiliation ritual of playing at 720p60 because you get shiny puddles
>>743309458You can just admit to being poor.
>>743307956>9070XT is £600>5070Ti £800>I got my 5080 for £900.Computers suck.
>>743306119>Ps5 its on late lifecycle now with ps6 coming next year>hurr durr whataboutismsI think you guys are just eternally online talking about high end builds and things that gamers don't really care about. my budget build from earlier this year is unironically awesome and im playing everything I want. also it's dead silent because ultra low consumption. Amd Ryzen 5 5600XThermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SEAsus Radeon RX 7600 8GB16GB DDR4stay terminally online and die mad
>>743309506>LE POWER OF AI SAARyou can just admit to being a street shitting nvindian shill
>>743309764Why do indians try to get grouped up with asians
>>743309450yikes. idk what to tell you then. probably better off asking on /g/ or some related reddit board.
>>743309764
Is Intel® Core™ Ultra 7 Processor 265KF any good or AMD's are just the de-facto CPUs for gaming?
>>743306493>non-binaryDoes he know?
>>743300636I have a minisform elite 550 mini PC from like 3 years ago. Its got a ryzen 5700G in it and 64GB of ram. I also slapped a 4tb NVME and a 2tb SATA SSD in there. Also comes with an expansion dock for a dedicated GPU. I slapped an A770 16GB in there.My wifes PC literally right next to mine (we have a 2 person double desk thing for gaymin) Has the exact same specs.The fuck else do I actually need? Nothing has really been released that pushes this thing aside from the kind of slop nobody wants to play.Any decent setup will last at least 5-7 years before thing need a real upgrade.
>>743309293>when the dot com bubble bursts everyone will realize the internet is not that groundbreaking (at least in its current state)- anon in 1998
>>743300636>for 20% lesspointless when you lose that on the intel mobo premium
>>743309826Because they're in Asia, regardless of the ethnicity associated with the name being sallow skin and slanted eyes
>>743310039I wish I had a wife
>>743300636because Intel motherboards are always a dead platform in just 1-2 years
>>743310261SEAnigs are already counted separately despite being closer, what makes the literal street shitters think they will be any different?
>>743309826They are from the continent of AsiaBlame the Greeks, who didn't realize Asia was fucking enormous.
>>743310016If you're not buying an X3D cpu it doesnt really matter which you go with as shown here>>743306981
I don't know why people care so much about CPU socket changes. Are you guys hotswapping a new CPU every year? I've got a 14th gen intel and by the time it gets replaced the socket will be almost 8 years old.
>>743310016Intel cpu perform worse on top of being a worse consumer experienceThey are in a death spiral right now, the only thing keeping them afloat are workstations
>>743310471They don't really care, they're just fanboying.
>>743310262You typically find such creatures at a place of employment in my experience. At least thats where i got mine.
I got a 9800x3d at the start of the year thoughrolled perfect on the silicon lottery too
>>743310471Most of the time it's a meme. However if you bought an AM4 off the rip you would see pretty massive gains going from a 1800x to 5800x/x3d
>>743310362They're in the actual Asian continent anon-dokoIronically so is Russia which seems to have psyopped itself into believing it's a western country based off of troll farms' regular interactions with the American internet and cultural similarities, regardless of being farther east than China
>>743306659>And significantly worse
>>743300636slower than 14th gen in gaming and needs expensive DDR5 to reach its full potential>>743310471because techtubers told them to>>743310797in theory but those early AM4 boards were really fucking badAM5 might age better
>>743310471This. Before the above mention 5700g my CPU was a fucking FX-8200E and an rx 470 8gb.Sure i could have upgraded to a more power hungry FX chip...or just OC the one i had and be fine after adding an extra fan.Damned thing was still runnin RE8 on release with max setting so it was still doing fine years later.By the time you actually NEED a new CPU youre gettin a socket change anyway So who gives a shit.
>>743309764He doesn't have to admit anything, it's obvious.
i have an ultra but only because it's more power efficient and i don't play demanding garbage
>>743300981too little too late we’ve been on the x3d train for years
>fairly new sockets>TDP and heat nightmare>will probably lose out on performance after some retarded vulnerability cripples its speed AGAIN>X3D at least has the cache gimmick if you're a factorio autist or somethingi dunno whats there to talk aboutyou either buy it and don't have an issue or you buy something else which works for you
>>743300636
>>743311769>1777033720531239.pngbruh you literally are a tranny this meme is older than (You)
>>743300636Waiting for Nova Lake.
I don't mind this at all.Intel were the top dog on CPU performance for a long time in the last decade and were the premium brand, but they got cocky and got leapfrogged by AMD. So to hit back they decide to agreesive on pricing instead.I just wish AMD can take a hint to their GPU strategy, and offer aggresive discounts.
>>743300636I'm waiting for intels next gen chips which will have 3d cache. if it beats the 9800x3d we'll have some interesting competition with the 10800x3d.I'm still on am4 and 5700x3d.
>>743308915>increased cache size which reduces all sorts of stuttering by a massive amountThat's literally not how it works. Stutters happen when a frame takes significantly longer to render than the previous frames. That could be caused by a lot of issues. But rarely, smaller L3 cache is the cause. Unless you could fit the entire game into L3 cache, bigger L3 only reduces cache misses. Going from 24MB to 96MB isn't that significant. The CPU still has to access the main memory bus very frequently. >Which is not just a raw fps comparisonShow us the frametime data then.
>>743300636>efficiency coreshave fun with lag spikes in almost every game and all programs randomly crashing
>250Khas Intel gone full retard? what does this even mean?
>>743300981its a dead end upgrade path also. why do retards always ignore this also?
>>743312987they named it after i5 250k that unbeatable in performance for 8 years
>>743312441>leapfrogged by AMDLeapfrogged by TSMC. AMD can't do anything without TSMC's fabrication process, including 3D cache.>they got cockyNot really. TSMC just has a different business model that allowed them to expand their technology and capacity more rapidly. By purely being a company that fabs chips for others that is. TSMC doesn't sell chips, just the manufacturing tools and capacity. Intel makes chips alongside selling their own branded chips. That's not a good thing for fab customers. That's why intel's transformation to adopt a more TSMC-like business model while still fabbing their own chips is a tough and bloody struggle. They're more like Samsung in this regard, which is even more behind in manufacturing process.
>>743313126what?
>>743313126that was the 2500k
>>743313063>upgrade pathMobo isn't pricey. And AM5 only has a single generation left. If you upgrade your CPU every generation you're a consoomer retard.
>>743313137I don't really understand how Intel and Samsung could both design and produce their own chips but somehow eat shit compared to another company that sells to middlemen. Mathematically something doesn't check out here.
>>743313256>AM5 only has a single generation lefteveryone said this when the 7800X3D came out, stupid fucking retards
>>743300636I dunno why someone wouldn't have to deal with an israeli company selling overpriced pieces of shit full of backdoors that have been exploited and hacked back and forth for the last 20 years.It's a MiStReRy!
sorry but intel is too israel coded for meI only buy from AMD at the moment
>>743307697you can’t overclock anything today, really. product development has stagnated to the point where sellers are releasing the cards nearly at their limit to keep meeting performance growth. overclocking now has such a high risk of frying the parts that people are undervolting instead
>>743314965You can still OC your RAM but it's a pain in the ass to test stability. So it's still not worth the effort for the most part.
>>743300636No one's building PCs until RAM and GPUs are afforable again unless they absolutely need a new PC
>>7433053929000 series x3ds are plagued with issues at the hardware level. I already had to RMA my 9800x3d twice. Same issue each time. Small stutters turned into larger freezes turned into sudden CPU death.
>>743316904that’s the entire 9xxx series, I believe. my 9600x died a few months ago. replaced it with a 7800x3d
>>743300981>get a motherboard that will be obsolete the moment intel makes a new CPUThat 20% comes from somewhere. There's a reason why AM4 dominated and continues to do so.
>>743300636I'm not buying a new motherboard when I could just get a new AMD CPU for an upgrade.
>>743305705Now let's see 4k faggot.
9950X3D owner hereVCache is a hack to get more performance out of the CPU without actually improving the microarchitectureIntel would crush AMD if not for it
>>743300636>nobody hre discusses processorsSir, this is a videogames board
>>743317116What is a game but a miserable little pile of processes?
>>743317004Grim, I'll probably have to do that once the warranty period on this ends.
>>743300947I'm still using a 5800X3D with a 5090
>>743317094But you know that intel has done it before amd with broadwell? And even before that on x360 with eDRAM? And there's probably even an earlier example.This is a well known thing but cache is expensive and it cuts into profit margins so the jewish hands rarely use it.
>>743307697undervolting is effectively the new overclocking and how you can tell how well binned your chip is
>>743307845My non 3D fine vined pretty well on 4k too. Considering I bought it when it came out over 5 years ago.
>>743304565You're retarded. If you're testing the CPU you don't want something that could be limited by the GPU.
>>743305826Upgrading your CPU is a meme.
>>743310471I upgraded from a 2600x to a 5900x because I didn't want to buy a new mobo and ram. In hindsight I should have just bit the bullet and upgraded to AM5 but I'll be ok for at least 3 more years.
>>743317080>let's see the frame rate when the CPU has to wait on the GPU all the time That's not how testing a processor works.
>>743303913>you just can't beat ryzen value for money. they're good at basically everything while intel still falls short in many areas.It's the other way around. Intel is way better in productivity related tasks, it just falls behind in gaming.
>>743300981now price matters?
>>743310826Anon, it's okay for you to have buyers remorse and cope with an AMD gpu, but don't lead other people into repeating your mistakes. That's subhuman behavior.
b350 + 5800x3d+ 48gb 2400mhz master race
>>743306401If your game isn't CPU bound it isn't worth playing.
>>743307272>not buying $10000 golden svarovski encrusted platinum cables pleb
>>743308424>>743305253Do people actually do this? In 25 years of building PCs I've never been in a situation where an in-place CPU upgrade would have made sense for me.
>>743312898works on my machine
>>743307524gtas havent been relevant since vice city
>>743300636>competelol, lmao even
>>743318712>comes in hours later after getting anally obliterated by benchmarks and pretending as if nothing happenedAre are 100% brown.
>>743307272no, you don't
>>743321731>DDR4Even PS4 is better than your piece of junk.
>>743317274well, fingers crossed you get lucky but I did everything recommended and mine still died. but yeah it was right at the 1 year mark, symptoms exactly as you described
>>743322214ddr4 is better for cpu tasks than sharing fucking gddr with the gpuzen3 is 25% faster than zen2, more than that if you account for the underclocking and powerlimiting the snoybox suffers from
>>743300981>the one jeet who didn't get the memo that intel aren't paying their shills anymore
You can get a 7500f for super cheap from china and it's all you need for high refresh rate gaming with like a 5070 or other mid range card. AMD benefits from being popular so you can get CPU for really cheap. You can get a 7700 for cheaper than you can get a 9600x and performance in games will be basically identical.
I already have a 9950x3d tho
>>743319076That's only because Intel had a near monopoly for that long and kept jewish practices that forced you to swap sockets for no fucking reason. With AM4 my X570 board died and I went back to an old X370 board with a 5800X3D and it still works great.
>>743322214your snoyware doesn't even compare to ddr4 you stupid faggot
did they really change to the ultra core series because the 14th i-series was such a massive fuck up
>>743319076If you aren't a retard, yes. I bought a B350 board and a Ryzen 1600 in 2017. Still using the same motherboard today with a 5700X
>>743318378Why aren't you using a 3770 right now then?
>>743310471I got a 2600 when Ryzen first started gaining traction, then got a 3600 when there was a really good deal for it because it was a significant upgrade, and then I got a 5700x3d from aliexpress when they were dirt cheap. All fit in to the same AM4 motherboard.I plan to skip AM5 and ride the 5700x3d for as long as possible and I got a cheap AM4 motherboard at the time for the 3600 to use as a secondary PC (my 2600 is unused and just sitting in a box).
>>743300636Because intel is a bunch of jews that foregoes basic fucking security operations to gain a pittance in performance.Why would anyone ever trust them again?
>>743300636idk im skipping ddr5 until the prices come down. 5700x3d +32gb ddr4 will be enough.
>>743317342And how long did that last? The 5775C or whatever the fuck it was named was a specialist part>Xbox 360the daughter die performs MSAA and Z-buffer operations it's not just dumb cache
>>743317094>he says while Intel is still riding on the bingbus to the point of it catching on fire with 13th and 14th gen
reminder that any gains intel makes now will be immediately reverted when they have to catch up to amd making 12 core ccds and having to bring out 12 P core chips
7mm+++++++
>>743300981>new chip is worse than old chipNo thanks
>>743304968>AMiDiot
>>743323271grim
>>743300636>Why?Most of the PCshitters have no idea. Consoleshitters definitely don't. RAM costs six cars and GPUs cost 20 houses. You're better off in /g/ with us.
i have a working 14700k would the 270k plus be a meaningful upgrade or just gluttony ?
>>743319076yes, its always cheaper to upgrade to a new CPU then to invest in a new platform
>>743301409
>>743323381Almost certainly. Will they admit that? You be the judge.
>Thinks cpus are games
>>743300636goofy easter island head lookin aah
>>743324685it’s a con game
>>743324515yes goy, you need to buy the new Intel CPU
Finally coming up with a good enough chip years later is not impressive. I have a 7950X3D and if I do anything (unlikely normally but I have to rebuild my server and I can use the old 7950X3D and X670E for that perhaps), it will be 9950X3D which is unique for having cache on both CCDs. I do wish we'd have real HEDT again though
>>743300636Israel gets my money every fucking paycheck and you want me to send them more money for their slop processor? Fuck right off.
>>743300636Sorry we don't buy kikeware
>>743300636Intel Aviv inside
>>743323653Not him but i'm using a 3570k on a proxmox setup, 32gb ram, still works great.
>>743304725>Which one is more power hungry at full load? AMD>Which is more power hungry at idle? AMD>How's the tdp?Infinity
>>743325283Sure, until you try playing games made after 2015.
It requires fast ddr5 memory. Which means I must spend 2 times as much on memory as the cpu.
>>743301380>fucking jew companyThe only non-jew company left got bought out by a jew companyYou retarded niggerThis is ALL YOUR FAULT
>giving a shit about intel after the 13th 14th gen debacle
well the 13 and 14 series fucking destroyed themselves for no reason, I wouldn't ever buy another intel product again after experiencing that, don't care how good it is.
>>743325497games? We were talking about processors
>>743325641You never bought anything in the first placeWhat the fuck are you even complaining about
>dumb butt hurt Intelosers are getting BTFO by AMDominant Ryzen Chads again!KNOW YOUR PLACE, INTELOSERS!>>743325591>>743325641This!Only dumb butt hurt brown people buy Intel trash!
>>743325769I bought a fucking 13700k because I had used intel for decades. Haven't since because I had to fight fucking tooth and nail to get them to refund it after a KNOWN instability issue and overvolting caused irreperable damage they tried to cover up with a fucking firmware update that didn't do shit.Fuck you, nigger.
>>743325941>I boughtWell there's your problemYou dumbassNobody buys anything anymoreYou TAKE it from the factory directly by stealing it while its still in the production linesame goes for all the other components
>>743325934SAAR YOUR IZZATSAAR!!!YOUR IZZAT IS DROPPING TO THE NEGATIVES SAAR!!!
>>743326096samir you’re breaking the rating systems, samir listen to me
>>743310062>the internet is not that groundbreaking (at least in its current state)>- anon in 1998That anon would be 100% correct in 1998. If you wanted him to be wrong you should have been dishonest and removed the "(at least in its current state)"
>>743323635>B350 board>with a 5700XSo you intentionally bottleneck your cpu to save $100?
>>743326851What bottlenecks? Any upgrades probably require more cooling or faster ram anyway for minor upgrades that would be better spent elsewhere.
>>743300636>>intel releases cheap strong processors that competeit's time to let it go, manyou aren't the premium brand anymoreintel is the major software issues, housefires, and lower performance one
>>743300636jew me once, shame on you...
>>743301884newegg, amazon, microcenter, etc all have brand new am4 shit
Nobody wants shit that will fucking kill itself like 13th or 14th gens going taser-mode, or failing that, they don't want israeli backdoors in their computer. Nice try fed, fuck intel.
>>743326851>muh bottleneckI use a 9060xt too. The performance loss is negligible
>>743300636Because it needs ddr5 RAM. It's the same reason nobody cares about the 7800x3d or the 9800x3d anymore. Even AMD re-released the 5800x3d and it immediately sold out.
>>743300636Too little too late.But I hope Nova Lake will be a good.
>5800x3d>9700xt>32gb, but fucking corsair so i cant upgrade to 64gb because you cant buy corsair anymorew
>>743300636Remember, No Refundshttps://wccftech.com/intel-rma-request-fiasco-user-reports-nightmare-experience/
>>743301884Not true. AM4 parts are still being produced.
those faggot amd techtubers made me think there was no vast gap between ddr4 and ddr5stuck with this pos until 2029
>>743305061Are you a fucking retard? AM4 came out 10 years ago and is still relevant. Many people upgraded CPUs 2 or 3 times on the same board. AM5 is shaping up to be the same way especially with how expensive ram is.
is the 270k plus good?
>>743328303>there was no vast gap between ddr4 and ddr5There wasn't for early chips which is the way it always is at the beginning of a new standard. But by the time ddr5 prices drop we'll have ddr6 or some hbm variant available
>>743306279It’s a great GPU. You’re just being a faggot because you’re miserable and want him to be miserable too.
>>743328303you are retarded
I remember when AMD was at 15% market share
>>743300636i don't support israel
>>743328564It's overpriced and can't do PT. You'd be better off getting a 3070 or something.
>>743329041It can't do path tracing because path tracing is a Nvidia exclusive technique that utilizes explicit hardware on Nvidia chips.
>>743329041neither can the 5070ti
>>743329105Yeah, so why would you buy a like $800 GPU that doesn't even get access to PT?
>>743325757
>>743328850How quickly the turn tables
>>743329287SAAR REDEEM PATHTRACING!!! THE POWER OF AI!!!! NVINDIA SUPERPOOPER
>>743328850>chinks still buy Intel and njudea
I fucking hate PC hardware. Should I get a prebuilt with an RTX 5050 for 970 bucks or is that retarded and I should buy the parts seperate and get some nerd to assemble them for me?
>>743329431When AMD makes a competing product, I might use that.But until then what's the point in buying a new GPU to play old games?
>>743329512>RTX 5050that a laptop GPU
>intelThanks, but no thanks.I'd rather pay a bit of a premium on the CPU so I don't have to shell out on a new motherboard every time I want to upgrade.I'd rather purchase from a manufacturer that has more experience with these types of CPUs anyways.
>>743329512link it
>>743300636it's a good cpu but i already had a 9800x3dgomen, intel
>>743329512Post a link to the prebuilt you're considering. But generally, prebuilts aren't good deals because they use the worst versions of parts.Building a PC is easy. The problem is that RAM, SSD, GPUs, and some motherboards are extremely overpriced because of AI
>>743329512you shouldn't be allowed to connect to steam if you didn't build the PC yourself
My last CPU was intel. It was good.My current CPU is AMD. It's good.My last GPU was Nvidia. It was good.My current GPU is Nvidia. It's good.I once had an AMD GPU. It was awful.I have no loyalty to any brand, but I don't forget a bad experience.
>>743329825>buy steam deck or gaybe box>can't connect to your steam account:(
>>743312441AMD and Nvidia engage in price-fixing, they don't actually compete. Then again the consumer GPU market is circling the drain so it's a moot point.
when 32GBs of RAM and a 2TB Nvme cost 700€, who the fuck is gonna build a new PC?even if you are rich your will get a bad taste in your mount for giving your money to the jews
>>743329879>but I don't forget a bad experiencethis is important, I had all sorts of pc components from all sorts of brands but I hate gigabyteI don't know what is it with them or was it streak of bad luck but I've had 2 mobos and 1 gpu from gigabyte and they were all dogshit, friend who's also been building pcs for a while had nothing but bad experiences with gigabyteI never see it anywhere on the internet but I have personal beef with them and will never buy their product again
>>743329668>>743329782It's a local, fourth world site but here are the specsAMD A520AMD Ryzen 5 5500NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5050, 8 GB, GDDR616 GB RAM, DIMM DDR4, 3200 MHzsome 600 W Power Supplysome 3 fans and a case, whateverHow bad of a deal is it?Honestly, I wouldn't mind overpaying a bit if that means it'll be set up neatly. I'd probably fuck something up if I tried it myself.
>>743300636Dead on arrival, maybe in 3 or so years
I have a new PC I built in Jan 2026 with parts I bought on sale summer 25'. I have an AM4 PC from 2020 thats still pretty good and plan to upgrade the 5600x to a 5700/5800X3D at some point. I will not buy a kike product that requires a full rebuild every 2 years to upgrade the CPU.
>>743329376Sheeit nigga tell that to OP
>>743330427badthe motherboard is complete bare minimum, the cpu is repurposed laptop dogshit with half the cache, the rtx 5050 is a piece of shit with only 8gb of vram and no linux factor redeeming it and the ram probably has shit timings too, making that cpu even worsebuild
I have a 9900X3DI will not be taking questions, thank you
>>743330427bro this is pretty bad
>>743330193I fried a piece of shit gigabyte mobo by spilling rum & coke all over it while it was running. I did have a few other bad experiences with them but I have their 3090ti and its been solid for like 5 years now
>>743306119>Ps5 its on late lifecycle now with ps6 coming next yearPS6 is basically confirmed to release in 2028 since PlayStation is stopping disc production in January 2028. That way they can launch a PS6 that is fully digital and leave discs behind with the PS5 altogether.
>>743330662>>743330853Thanks, that's pretty informative. Do you guys have any good spec lists in a 1000-1400 range? I have no idea for what to look out for.
>>743306119No console manufacturer will be retarded enough to build a new system with current memory prices.
>>743330427>fourth worldI didn't know this was a thing until now! Do you live Somalia or something like that?I'm so glad that I'm an Americhad who has the right to go to Micro Center to buy things that each have an objectively great price/performance ratio! Micro Center is a physical store that's exclusive to Americhads who live in the USA.
>>743330427I personally wouldn't buy it unless you have no other options. If you found those parts individually and built the PC yourself, it'd probably be around $700-$800 with a couple of slightly better parts. So you're flushing away $200-$300 for no real reason.The motherboard is the bottom of the barrel for that CPU socket. You can get a better one for a few extra dollars.The Ryzen 5 5500 is fine as long as you understand it's an entry level CPU. It's okay for the price though.The RTX 5050 is not great and you can probably find at least a 5060 for around the same price if you watch for one online.The 600w power supply is probably garbage like in most prebuilts and will need to be replaced if you ever want to upgrade the CPU or GPU one day. I'm guessing you don't care about that though
>a gayming PC without an X3D processor
>>743330770No, thank you
5600x -> 5800x3d for 380Y/N?Moving to DDR5 rn seems like a dump choice idk
>>7433315354th world means:>uncontacted tribes>hunter gatherers / nomads >people in 1st world countries that live like 3rd world people (most of America)
>>743301884New AM4 CPUs and Motherboards are still sold brand new on Amazon and NewEgg. Not to mention that AMD recently released the 5500X3D, and re-released the 5800X3D.
>>743332092Considering making the jump from a 5700x. I seriously regret not grabbing the 5700x3d when it was readily available
>>743332235I see! :c
>>743332092Depends what is the rest of your hardware and what kind of games are you playing.But don't expect giant gains unless you only play factorio, rimworld and other very CPU bound games.That CPU is also a pain in the ass to cool down without undervolting.
>>743331437https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hpFYXfi would go for something like thisyes, it has a single ram stick but it's a really good ram stick, 10ns for that price per gb is a steal, the idea is that you simply buy another down the linethe cpu will outperform being stuck on am4 anyways even with that one stick and you get to just drop in zen6 after a bios updatewhen you want to get more storage you just plop another ssd in thereoverall this build is legitimately better value than a ps5 proand that's ignoring that we're counting ps5 pro in the goy mode without a disc drive
>>743332092$380 for a 4 year old CPU is so insane
>>743333090oh right, forgot to talk about the gpu and the casethe 9070 is insane value, that's 60% more performance than the ps5 pro gpu for $580and the case is just a placeholder, pick whatever you want
>>743332092Get an oled monitor instead
>>743332092Are you really noticing unplayable framerates in games? I'd just wait until there's used 5800x3ds for <$200.
>>743300636CPUS barelly matter for games anymore. Unless you're using something like a Atom or Celeron, virtually anything gets the job done nowadays.
>>743300636that's kind of nullified by the ram prices, at least the X3D chips compensate for slow RAM so you can save a bit of cash
>>743300636>Jewtelmyes get the shitty goychip
>>7433295125050 is suffering
>>743333851>t. has a decent CPUMy i5-8400 couldn't handle STALKER 2, Nioh 3 at all, and even in games it could handle, like Cairn, I'm extremely CPU-bound. And it is with 6750xt
>>743333936Very true. People forget tha Ultra CPUs require unique, $180+ motherboards.
>>743333841>wait until there's used 5800x3ds for <$200.
>>743334435>couldn't handle STALKER 2I find that hard to believe, more likely you're RAM bottlenecked
>>743301142exact same situation here: i7-6700k OC+64G DDR4+GTX 1080 ti OC and can still play everything on medium/high 60 fps 1440p, so I think I'm fine for at least 2 years, but man this situation is dire right now.
>>743335907are we fucking our future selves for not buying the RAM right now? will things only get much much worse?
>>743335720It's definitely the CPU, no hyperthreading. My 9600k was getting tapped out by games like Metro Exodus due to it.
>>743336075nah the prices can only go down from here on
>>743333841>wait until there's used 5800x3ds for <$200.that was 2 years ago. I copped a 5700x3d for $140 during that time.
>>743335720modern ue5 slop is unnecessarily cpu heavy
>>743336075I don't know, but for sure I'm not going to pay those kike prices. I paid 234€ in 2016 for 64 GB DDR4 and those exact same RAM are sold for 524€ right now on amazon, like wtf is this shit?
>>743300636it's a very good cpu but nobody's building budget systems right now.
>>743324060ring bus is fine if you only have 8 cores of a single type
>>743306207Intel is still recovering from fucking Haswell-era decisions of>Who cares about multicore designs when Crysis 3 is clearly using two threads max? lmao enjoy Bulldozer, IPClet children>Who cares about multithreaded renderers when gamers hate Windows 10 and the industry is clearly settled on DX11? lmao enjoy Mantle, Star Swarm children>Who cares about multiprocess Firefox when Google already said Chrome is the #1 multiprocess browser? lmao enjoy Shumway, Gecko childrenAnd then Windows 7 was killed, forcing people onto the multithreaded-by-design DX12 whether they liked it or not, Doom was released, showing that the industry will pay attention to Vulkan if it isn't using DA:I as an advertisement, and Mozilla (and others) finally stopped treating multiprocess like a gimmick because Ryzen sold like crazy, and the end of custom tweaked FF builds began once they started giving a shit about E10S. 2017ish was the year>DOOD SINGLE THREAD PERF!!!!!!finally fucking died as a performance indicator
Dead end platform so no upgrades, meanwhile new AMD CPUs plug into years old motherboards and work.
Intel is 20% cheaper because no one fucking trusts them after the disasters that were the 13th & 14th gen failures and then telling their customers "Oops, it's out of the warranty period"
>>743300636Possibly because no one buys new stuff that isn't highest spec available. If I were to buy something new right now, I'd take one of two routes>build cheapo PC on budget and play non-demanding games, which are honestly more fun anyways. better go for old components and ddr4>whale out on best stuff possible because world is going to shit and everything is getting unreasonably expensiveI can't imagine many people are interested in modern mid-tier, at least at this very moment.
>>743340256And the years of sandbagging new cpus because AMD wasn’t competitive. Also, they tried making DLC cpu performance a thing. You would go into Best Buy or wherever and buy a card with a key that would “unlock” cpu performance. Fortunately that didn’t get any traction and it was only done for a couple CPU models before they gave up on it.Intel were total cock suckers when they were on top. Fuck em.
>>743336660Yeah, when most of your cost is ram and storage, what’s another 100 bucks for a higher end CPU?
>>743300636I don't buy rectangle shaped cpu's
>>743342960Also the whole mess for another two generations of E-core/P-core shit leading to performance issues in games for a solid three years, leading to your basically just turning off E-cores entirely before playing a game so your 1%s don't get obliterated.
>>743336549>OC’d 14900kWonder how much wattage that cpu is pulling compared to the 9800x3d? 3X as much?
>>743343023cuz you're too poor to afford the good ones
>>743300636>still no AVX 512
>>743343258Performance diff for it is negligible on current CPUs.
>>743323741Literally me. Upgraded my 3600 to a 5700x3d, then got a cheap mbto stick the 3600 in for lounge room gaming.
>>743337964to be fair amd's shitty designs back then suffered the opposite problem and was the inferior option back then. too many threads and too little performance from each one. the zen architecture was a herculean effort to restore the balance of the market and i commend them for it. i'm enjoying my mobile ryzen today and casually having 6c/12t is nice
>>743343121I bought a gen 11 when I saw how rectangular gens 12 and 13 were, and was vindicated when the stories came out of them breaking
>>743345017It was bad, yeah, but even as early as the Athlon X2's and Core2's, people treated moar coars as a gimmick, and not a giant leap, and I'd say a lot of this stemmed from hyperthreaded P4's being the worst fucking debut for the concept ever. I saw so many people on every tech/vidya forum treat crazy core counts as something only an [H]fag or DVP autist needs. People just threw up their hands and acted like games would never take advantage of multiple cores ever, so the eternal meta was to always buy Intel, as they focused on what REALLY mattered - single-threaded performance. This especially mattered in the early days of Dolphin and PCSX2 unfucking themselves, causing Phenom II to age twice as hard because it lacked SSE4.1It also didn't help Windows 7 was still widely in use up until the brink of coof, so devs didn't really have an incentive to develop around newer API's where moar coars might matter
>>743333167Ik, stupidly overpriced so is 500-700 for DDR5 though.>>743332754I guess the most CPU intensive shit I play is PoE1/2B550 chipset, 32GB DDR4 (the main reason I'm thinking of not changing) I'll change the card as well.Also I have a Noctua NH-D15, don't ask why I bought it for a 6core.Idk maybe look into selling my current RAM and biting the new socket bullet?
>>743344873Not on programs that actually use it, it's not.
>>743316904>>743317004>>743317021what the fuck are you talking aboutI haven't read anything about thisI just built a 9800X3D systemare you on Windows?
>that TDPLmao no
>>743300636none of the games being released today even utilize the 12700k i bought 5 years ago.
>>743301057console tendy having a melty
rate my new PC>9800X3D>Gigabyte RX 9070 XT>32GB DDR5 6000mhz/CL30>WD Black SN8100 2TB >1x Noctua NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM 120mm>MSI MAG X870E Tomahawk WiFi>ID-COOLING FROZN A720>CORSAIR RM1000x>Fractal North w/tempered glassrunning CachyOS
>>743347203Bit of an overkill CPU for that kind of GPU, but it'll last you a couple card generations at the least. Hell, my 7800X3D still barely breaks a sweat with my 5080 in 98% of games.
>>743300636>Caring about PC hardware in 2026
