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>perfect happiness guaranteed by following the rails the omnipotent Goddess laid out for you
>you get the activity you were made for
>you get to meet and marry your soulmate
>no bad people will ever hurt or bother you
>nothing wrong ever happen
vs
>free will
Well, vee?
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>>743300929
>free will
only for the top 0.00000001%, faggot
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>>743301397
We would all degenerate to rocks if we let ourselves be moved by a superior being
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That side of the story would work if Ilias wasn't the most evil character of the game
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>>743300929
Suffering has more meaning than happiness.
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>>743303462
>suffering build character he screams as he's dissolved in digestive juices for the entertainment of a bunch of monster girls
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>>743300929
Coexistence.
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>>743303679
Sounds pretty fair to me to allow those who follow the rules in Heaven and send those who reject that lifestyle wherever they prefer.
But no, one 14 yo kid has to choose for all between "Obey or be obliterated" vs "Suffer"
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I choose TOTAL MONSTER DEATH
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>>743303462
Okay.
Mods, feel free to cause suffering to this man.
He clearly derives happiness from posting here.
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>>743304201
Posting here causes suffering that's what he derives happiness from.
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>>743300929
I'm weak, I choose A
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>>743300929
>Perfect happiness
>Leaves out the fucking slave labor camps from people who committed thought crime in the original world
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>>743303679
I like how just like in the OG coexistence ends up being beating the shit out of everyone who does not agree to coexist
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Why is it that only japs make out God to be the anti free will figure every single time despite it being the complete opposite (much to the dismay of "if god real why bad thing happen" fags)?
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Translation status?
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>>743309891
Holdover from centuries of suppression of Christianity.
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>>743310310
Machine translated to 100%
>>743309891
Good bad, bad good is the best they can do.
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>>743310743
>mtl
Is it AI at least?
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>>743309891
Because in their religions heaven is a sprawling bureaucracy and I guess it's just easy to extrapolate from that into heaven being the force for ultimate law.
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>>743309891
Because in all abrahamic religions god punishes humans for exercising free will in any way other than the strict precepts he demands they follow.
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>>743310860
I hope so, I haven't finished the game yet but I would expect that
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>>743300929
can I play this on Linux?
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>>743311690
I am playing on linux with Wine
I have a weird bug though, the input are barely responsive, I have to launch the game twice, wait for it to load (it's very long but I tried on a windows vm it was the same time) navigate in the menu to confirm the inputs work, then close the second window and I can play normally.
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>>743309891
Nigger you believe in a magical invisible man in the sky, made by the ruling class to subjugate you by using your fear of eternal death. Stop pretending you can "debate" anyone. No one's free will would be affected if god removed cancer from the world. You're retarded. Your beliefs are retarded.
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>>743310994
>exercising free will in any way other than the strict precepts
Just don't act like a retarded nigger. It's simple as that. You "can" but you deserve to get your ass beat for doing so.
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>>743314093
>No one's free will would be affected if god removed cancer from the world.
not him, but I want unhealthy retards like you to suffer
>nooo I want to smoke, drink, be fat and eat the microplastics!!!
enjoy your cancers and other illnesses, retardo
>b-but it doesn't always have a cause, think of le heccin poor women and their breast cancer!
I remember looking up breast cancer causes, every time the leading cause would be listed as being hereditary and due to genetics
turns out that's only 5% of cases, which would be a solved issue if you """people""" just died and didn't pass it on
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>>743314665
>you deserve to die because huhhhhh you eat the wrong food and huhhhh it's not hereditary but actually it is but you deserve to die anyway (? and I want you to suffer
wow, you're such a kind and smart person, I bet god will make you go the heaven (after you die, of course, we promise)
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>>743309891
Because it's an easy way to rationalize God's behavior in a form that easy to understand? If you take the examples of God's interference as it is presented (i.e, I will punish you with excessive and horrific cruelty if you exercise free will in a way that I do not approve of), then they come across as an amoral egotist and tyrant or as a flippant being playing a game where they attempt to coax humanity into delivering themselves to punishment, like an overgrown skykid with a magnifying glass looking down on ants.
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>>743309772
Basically how segregation ended when you think about it
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>>743300929
I choose to suffer.
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>>743315176
>I'm not a christian and I hate christians and misunderstand the religion but ummm what you said isn't very biblepilled!
lmao
when did I say I'm a christfag?
no real response, you retarded monkey?
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>>743315956
>UAAAAARRRGGGH I'm so glad I have free will!!!!
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>>743300929
Kill both.

Always.
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>>743315176
>make terible lifestyle choices
>dodge consequences and force my body to remain alive through invasive treatments
>THEN go ahead have children, passing on my botched genes
>"wtf how could god give my child cancer? It's genetics, no one's at fault!"
Sorry broski, that's your beloved free will at work
YOU did that to your kid with your actions
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>>743300929
>>you get to meet and marry your soulmate
Don't want to get married.

You ever considered that?
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>>743317508
You would if you met your soulmate made for you (and you made for her)
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>>743317584
I still wouldn't because I just don't like that level of emotional and physical attachment. Prefer being alone in a home just for me.
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>>743317710
>a home just for me
then your house is your soulmate lmao idiottttt
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>>743317710
The Goddess knows what you prefer better than you
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>>743317854
>My home is my soulmate
I would swap my home for a slightly bigger one though.
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>>743300929
Monster world is actually fairly normal by MGQ standards (unless you're in Kanon's or Hiruko's territory, and for most people in Kanon's territory, it's still not a problem) while angel world is basically a slave society.

Tamamo and Minagi are benevolent rulers.
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>>743317923
Can god create a GF strong enough to kill god?
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>>743318001
Doesn't Monster World Tamamo dryfish everybody?
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>>743318143
She actually has the opposite problem of being a giga-slut who fucks everyone in the village without dryfishing them.
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>>743300929
Is the translation finally done?
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>>743318312
>Part 3 + all h scenes from parts 1 and 2 included!
>Version uploaded is a merge between a human edited MTL that is 100% complete and the fan TL from Arzor-X's, where Part 3 is currently still a WIP.
>The translation is ongoing process with frequent updates, download latest version from Arzor-X's repository
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>>743300929
Whichever choice let's me die cleanly, painlessly, and with some dignity.
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>>743300929
Do they have paizuri dolls in heaven?
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>>743319520
yes but unfortunately they all have visible doll joints
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>>743309772
I mean, that was that OG Tamamo's point when she kept testing and advising Luka. It doesn't matter how noble his intentions were, he wouldn't get anywhere if he kept treating monsters like humans. Monster culture is heavily focused on strength. The monsters that already wanted peace or were ambivalent toward humanity could be talk-no-jutsu'd, but the obstinate ones won't change their minds on principle if the logic is coming from someone much weaker than them. Slapping someone's shit is a valid and respected move in monster girl debate.
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>>743319638
She'll become lifelike after I cum my soul into her
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>>743309772
Intolerance will not be tolerated.
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>>743320308
>The monsters that already wanted peace or were ambivalent toward humanity could be talk-no-jutsu'd, but the obstinate ones won't change their minds on principle if the logic is coming from someone much weaker than them. Slapping someone's shit is a valid and respected move in monster girl debate.
There's a joke here about republicans.
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>>743319638
>unfortunately
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>>743314198
Do YOU punish sodomy?
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>>743317854
WALLTUH
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>>743318228
>problem
Exsqueeze me??
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Fuck free will. You don't deserve it anymore.
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>>743321694
I vote for people who say they will!
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>>743309891
why are believers in the kike god retarded 100% of the time?
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If you lived in the Monster Girl Quest world, how long would you survive?
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>>743321153
This but unironically. A gay who demands their rights be recognized and fights for them is infinitely more respectable than a ballerina dress toting faggot passive-aggressively explaining to me I MUST respect that for MORAL reasons and I CANNOT openly think that's weird (I just finished deltarune)
It's so innate I'm not even sure how to describe it. One is simply more agreeable than the other. Even if the freedom fighting gay was wearing a ballerina outfit I'd respect that, and it would probably turn into a fashion statement
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>>743323458
There are plenty of horny retards like me everywhere in this world. I'd leave it to my good star to protect me.
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>>743323630
(I hope my good star is a sexy monster girl and not a vore abomination)
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>>743323693
Zikes! You're getting used as livestock by succubi, enjoy having your sperm drained and not actually fucking anybody.
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>>743300929
>KDE plasma
mein bruder

>you get the activity you were made for
>you get to meet and marry your soulmate
>no bad people will ever hurt or bother you
>nothing wrong ever happen
consider me that deity's strongest soldier
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>>743322676
>why are believers in the kike god retarded 100% of the time?
why are atheist retards running on christian inertia having their society destroyed from within? hint: it's related to abandoning the "kike god"
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>>743321153
>>743323514
American moment.
>>743323458
I would become a slime hunter, dumping bleach in clean water sources and sharting on any slime I come across until Erubetie or Undine show up to stop me.
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>>743323828
Hoooooly kek. What's worse, foids buying this actual slop or moids buying fake gamer girl bath water?
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>>743310994
Tell us you're an atheist who doesn't understand Christianity without telling us
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>>743323458
If it's the paradox world you just find yourself a strong loli monster wife to protect and milk you. If it's the original VN you get snuffed.
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>>743324040
After seeing how y'all turned out, I'm fuckin' PROUD to be an atheist.
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>>743300929
mgq designs are so fucking ugly
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>>743323908
>why are atheist retards running on christian inertia having their society destroyed from within
>From within
Don't want to get kicked from here from politics but Western society has been dying since the the thirty year war. Everything post world war 1 is basically just inertia. Not even Christian inertia(Which is almost entirely catholic in nature btw), just the last few remnants of a social order that actually managed to sustain itself.
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>>743323828
Kinda reminds me of one moment from the movie Absolutely Anything where high alien races examine human species looking at what you could call an epic fail compilation.
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>>743324236
I like the artist who drew all the oppai lolis
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>>743323458
I'd stick to the Illias continent. Probably farm lettuce/cabbage and marry a slug girl.
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>>743324126
fr christians are literally getting bullied into extinction. Predominantly by children, too. I do feel bad for them but god, that's pathetic.
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>>743324236
They're soulful. A bunch of them being ugly and actually monstrous unironically helps the worldbuilding more than if everyone was a 10/10 stacy cosplay monster girl.
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>>743300929
I wish I could get this shit to run in joiplay.
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>>743323458
If I start in a place that was liberated by Luka and there aren't any vore whores nearby, pretty high.
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>>743324407
Slugs are useless NEETs.
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>>743324860
I don't remember the specifics since this was months ago, but you need a specific earlier version of the RPGM plugin found on kemono since it's only on the patreon, a later version of the game found later in the f95 thread since retards didn't bother putting it in the OP, some specific file from somewhere iirc so it doesn't crash as soon as some jap dialogue appears in the first battle, then after that there's a part in the first castle level in the collab that force closes the game after every fight or save so you need to play that chapter on PC, those are all the issues I know of.
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>>743324921
I'm OK with that.
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>>743325161
One of you has to work, anon.
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>>743314093
Based
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>>743314093
Post nose rabbi.
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>>743323908
Who was kicked out of functioning countries 109 times and let back in every single time by Christians?
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>>743325196
Does farming not count as a profession? Otherwise, there's likely much as I could do as a literate human with clerical work history even if job skills won't necessarily transfer over cleanly. Worse comes to worse, I could fall back on manual labor.
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>>743324881
Harpy queen would basically drain you every night and mock you for your lack of sexual capacity.

>>743325454
>Functioning countries
>Spain
Lol.
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Am I the only one here who played Paradox Part 3 with an MTL? Actually I'm not done but I got my best units taken away after a bunch of clown monster girls attacked a Succubus village
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>>743325585
That's not how she treated me as a chatbot so I think you're lying
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>>743308278
The funny thing is no matter how bad AW was, MW was so damn fucked up that nothing came even remotely close.
And at the end of the day, AW Ilias was the real piece of shit all along while in the MW, Everyone not named Saja, Tamamo and Minagi, the succubi under Minagi (and I guess Kanade since she was made to just be simple minded) was horrid to a hilarious level.
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>>743309891
If Tokugawa Ieyasu hadn't expelled the Christians, they'd have destroyed Japan's native folk religion like it and islam has done to so many others
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>>743323828
i dont think we shoul lose our free will just because the lowest common denominator is filled by things that society consider humans out of politeness and social preassure, but i see your point
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>>743325108
I got the game version from the middle of the fag95 that's, I'll see if I can find the older version of the RPGM plugin.
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>>743325690
>Am I the only one here who played Paradox Part 3 with an MTL
No because most if not all of /mggg/ did the exactr same thing.
By the way, Vinum actually has dialogue in part 3's AW and bits of the Final route if you drag her about.
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Why are humans so worthless and undeserving of freedom?
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>>743300929
I agree with raphaela that Illias is a worthy queen to Lord over creation
however saja is very hot and I would also be a good candidate to have a say in the handling of affairs
but I wouldn't wage war against Illias, so Raphaela
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>>743323458
if i can level up, i think i have a chance, will probably be raped a few times, but i will survive
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>>743326238
>not playing with the party dialogue cheat so everyone can always say something
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>>743324069
Paradox 100% depends on when you drop in, if it's after Luka has done the 3rd route then you're probably not gonna die at all since the moment a monster does something, him and Chaos have a 99% chance of fixing it and reviving you.
Before then though? You're still rolling the dice not to end up somewhere giga fucked.
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>>743300929
I mean a straight comparison of the angel world and monster world then yeah, angel world is better. But Sub-illyas is a corrupt bitch and basically runs a caste system where you get sent to the forever mines if you are low tier.
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>>743326125
You mean saved their souls.
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>>743326308
>if i can level up
Monster girls are allowed to play video games too, you sick piece of shit!
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>>743326384
I did the same thing which is how I even found Vinum's dialogue to begin with.
Got to see all the lines Lazarus has for every boss in the third route where he is shitting actual bricks but is willing to put it on the line and fight because Luka is willing to fight as well.
Also Nemea is a bitch that looked at the human slaves of the MW, whihc was illegal by the way since Minagi forbid it, said it reminded her of home and wanted to buy a kid to eat.
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>>743326567
Why is Nemea so perfect...
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>>743326567
Lazarus shitting himself against every transcendent you square up against was hilarious. But then they didn't give him a line for Chaos or Koryuu which was weird.
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>>743300929
KILL BOTH
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>>743314198
Literally one of the most famous stories, Exodus
>let the Jews go
>no, they’re my property
>okay, I’m going to kill people with hail and lightning (who have nothing to do with our dispute)
>ok ok I’ll let them go
>actually I’m not finished with you, I’m going to brainwash you so I can keep punishing you
>and I’ll also kill all the firstborns
>ok ok I’ll let them go
Then the Jews wander the wilderness, complain there is no food or water so God kills some of them anyways, lol

Multiple instances of free will violated here. And that’s just one example
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>>743327329
Old testament isn't canon by the way.
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>>743326825
Wait do you mean Koron? Koryuu directed me to the giant dragon instead
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>>743326774
Doesn't sound perfect to me.
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>>743327435
Yes it is, it's the prime world and new testament is just the first testaverse borne from it after Gawd had to revive Jeebus every time he sacrificed himself because the jews kept sinning.
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>>743327435
Jesus didn’t believe that
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>>743327538
>wants to dote on some lucky chap, even willing to go through legal channels to acquire them
I think you have some bias not to see how reasonable she is.
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>>743300929
A sounds amazing, i'll go with that one.
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>>743327435
If original sin isn't real then what was jesus sacrificing himself to himself for?
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>>743327679
I mean she has her actual reasonable moments but like...
Are we expected to just ignore everything that happened prior?
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>>743327610
>>743327636
It was decanonized when the NT was written, only being recanonized years later. Learn your history, it's not real Christianity. ONLY the NT is.
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>>743300929
too bad trtr threw the cool law vs. chaos conflict out of the window in favor of the gay as fuck "golden" ending where everyone sings koombaya together and motherfucking Kanon just gets social ostracism for the shit she did.
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>>743327790
WOW! Kind of inconsiderate of you to judge a woman solely by her past mishaps. Do better, anon.
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>>743327934
Okay, I'll bite. Why does Kanon deserve worse punishment than a slap on the wrist? And before you answer, remember that she sort of learned her lesson so you can't judge her for the way she used to be.
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>>743327934
>where everyone sings koombaya together
That is not quite how it goes at all though, nothing really got forgotten by some of the characters and it's caused them to deviate, like the Archangels in 100% trusting AW Ilias. Also everything that happend to Gabriella.
It's 100% is true for the MW though since fucking everyone forgives everyone there and Kanon is going through a 'redemption arc'.
Even the fucking monster called Hiruko that does nothing but eat everyone and everything within a 10000 mile radius got forgiven.
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>>743328202
Hiruko is like an untrained pitbull, it's more Alice's fault she's like that rather than her own fault.
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>>743328254
Pitbulls are the way they are because of genetics, not lack of training. Hiruko is the same, you cannot fix her.
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>>743328052
NTA but I will throw Kanon a bone because she was doing the whole 'trying to impress others that only fear hrt and actually don't give a shit about her'.
Hiruko however I can't forgive and fuck Alice I for even making her and making her sound like she was innocent this whole time, despite her eating other monsters in plain sight 'because she was hungry' knowing how dangeorus it would be to do that as a replacement for Koron.
Who she swears she didn't do it to replace her but everything said 'yeah no she was a replacement'. Absolute failure of a mother.
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>>743328254
>Hiruko is like an untrained pitbull, it's more Alice's fault
I know, like 90% of everything that happens with Hiruko is Alice I's fault and it's hilarious how the game tries to make you feel bad for her.
Even as Ilias is calling her a fucking idiot for doing what she did and Alice I was willingy let her run wild with no restraint.
Know who I feel bad for? The two monster girls who were minding their own buisness in the MW hub you go to, only for Hiruko to randomly show up, eat them and replace them with clones.
And you have no idea how often she has done this.
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>>743328371
>>743328398
>>743328617
Really not liking the single mom hate itt.
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>>743323828
Counter argument: Many humans don't have free will and are actual NPC goyim.
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>>743328254
Yeah and she should be put down just like the shitbulls.
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How would you solve the Six Ancestor feeding issue?
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Yeah that's what I thought.
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>I'll go it alone from here.
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>>743329206
They can all become town bicycles like Tamamo
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>>743329206
Can't they just rape animals?
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>>743330137
>Go it alone? What does that even mean!?
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>>743330541
L O N D O N
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N
D
O
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>>743329206
I put them in a box and drop them on countries I don't like as rape nukes.
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>>743326567
What's the plugin? I want to hear Vinum's lines. I really only carry on my team because I love her.
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>>743300929
Whichever has the most fertile womb to pump full
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Anyway I'm always siding with the angels, even if they do look suspiciously like monsters and also behave like monsters
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>>743331580
Then why is the fox harlot your favorite?
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>>743331695
She's actually tied with Mariel. They put her on top for some reason. Also the poll was rigged for Tamamo or something.
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>>743300929
I don't like monster girl like lamia or centaur, it made me irk
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>>743331984
Lamia are good as long as they enjoy a good vore.
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>>743300929
Man I know it's like, H-game design or whatever, but I still don't understand what the fuck is going on with the chick on the left's dress situation. It's making me distracted rather than titillated as I try to figure out how it all links up.
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>>743332360
Wow dude wow man wow bro the doujin monster girl game situation is crazy (100k views)
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Is there like a story summary, moderately detailed, what happened in paradox part 1 and 2? I really wanna play part 3 but forgot everything and sadly no time anymore to marathon all 3

Mgq is really close to my heart and makes me think of easier, happier times in my life
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>>743332782
God I hate cell phone FF5
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>>743333791
where did you ff5 spergs even come from. it wasn't translated in the West so you aren't actually boomers
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>>743327483
Huh he did have a line for her. Maybe my memory is just shit.
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>>743309891
The Christian god absolutely is against Humans having free will, it only changed it's mind begrudgingly.
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>>743333763
>Mgq is really close to my heart and makes me think of easier, happier times in my life
I really, really don't care.
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>>743334981
What's the point of a human if it has no free will?
Angels are set in their ways and serve God fully, so it seems rather strange to make a glorified mud golem.
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>>743333957
I was making a joke about the graphics you insecure grandpa
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>>743335083
>What's the point of a human if it has no free will?
To serve corporations and die.
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>>743335097
That was what? You're retarded lil nigga
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>>743334981
The jewish god is against it. The christian God is not the same.
>inb4 retard tries to pretend they are the same thing
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>>743335268
muh Paul
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>>743300929
if the god is on the left who care about free will
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>>743309891
The fuck are you on ? religion is quintessence of slaving away your free will
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>>743335989
If humans don't have free will, neither does God.
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>>743315176
everyone know leftist and all the other christian are absolute demon, no wonder the elite had to mindrape them into acting good millenium ago
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>>743300929
>mg shit
monstergirls get thrown on the pyre
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>>743336361
That's actually an interesting conversation to have.
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>>743336952
Contrary to appearances the girl on the left would agree with you

>is there a lore reason for the angels being as abominable and sex-crazed as the monsters
>well this is a hentai game so we can't go too lore heavy
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>>743323458
>they extremely rarely use feet and/or anus attacks
I think I can go pretty far, I can control myself well with vanilla stuff, and I'm pretty buff and tall
I'd try to make them cum to submission though, I wouldn't want to kill monster girls
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>>743338140
>I wouldn't want to kill monster girls
Why not? I'd murderhobo my way across the map myself, until I lost and was forced to be a stronger monster girl's husband.
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>>743338664
not my thing
also, having rumors about me making monster girls cum all over the continent would help me in the long run, same for not having a reputation for killing them
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>>743326478
If that's what you call destroying the local culture sure. They'd be just as cucked as the west if they hadn't resisted the eternal christcuck.
Abrahamic religion has caused immeasurable spiritual damage to most of the world.
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>>743337020
It is but instead I'd like to discuss Rumi sex
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>>743338664
If you lose to a monster and don't immediately kill yourself, you're not a truly devout follower of Ilias.
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>>743339219
>local culture is......le worth preserving
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>>743342070
I'm not a globohomo fag so yes.
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>>743339748
Who said I was? Angels are just monster girls in denial.
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>>743342578
That's the worst part of MGQ. But fans would sperg if the angels were hot and you couldn't bang them
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>>743342070
yes? Imagine a world where all the local culture was destroyed or ground up into some formless mush
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>>743342578
>>743342724
Holy shit you guys are done for, we're talking tens of thousands of years
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>>743342319
>>743342727
You guys hate foreign cultures, you should relish in the thought of an advanced society monoculture.
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>>743300929
>paradox
no wonder this choice didn't feel familiar
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is part 3 translated yet or is it still just ai translated
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>>743343721
Now tell me the downsides.
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>>743343721
If angels didn't want to be called monsters maybe they should stop acting (worse than) monsters.
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>>743345925
Still not entirely, only up to Black Mansion.
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>>743347847
White is NOT the default. Some of us just call it "Mansion."
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>>743309891
Damn, They beat your ass in the replies.



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