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So, the Nightmare of Mensis was created in the "Unseen" part of Yharnam, by the Upper Cathedral Ward's secret branch, the School of Mensis and Micolash. They held up a fetus and made contact with the moon, which sucked all of the village literally into another realm called the Nightmare of Mensis, which... created the Brain of Mensis, which is literally made up of eyes and brains of the Mensis scholars rendering their brains dead in the form of a Great One, and instead of completing The One Reborn, it spawns without a head, and its retard-brain is stuck in the Nightmare, along with Micolash and the Nightmare of Mergo who makes the Moon Presence pissed off and that is what causes the Beast Plague on this Night of the Hunt through the Healing Blood that's used to cure a legitimate ailment.

...or did they find a retard brain of a Great One somewhere, mistake it for a legitimate Great One and then mistakenly use that to contact the Moon Presence, which made all of them braindead IRL, and their new selves stuck insane inside the Nightmare?

Uhh and then we find the baby in the Nightmare realm and kill it, and that in turn ends the Beast Plague, and the Hunter's Dream begins to end for the Player, as Gehrman offers to kill us in the dream, and sever our blood-contract to the dream, because hunters only need to come when Moon Presence is miffed at another retard-ritual in Yahar'Gul.

I understood all of this correctly, yes? Like, this is ACTUALLY what happened in the game, right?
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You need more eyes on the inside.
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>>743303079
what happened is whatever you want to have happened
bloodborne is prime headcanon material. dark souls is too but because bloodborne is based on good ol' lovecrafts mythos, whos own entire deal is vagueness and obscurity, bloodborne took that obtuseness and ran with it from start to finish, jumping every hurdle with expertise. bloodborne is the and only ultimate lovecraftian game because shit is never explained and half of the fun is attributing your own narrative to the intentionally coyly placed symbolism. thats why relying on some rando youtubers analysis is metaphorically equivalent to willfully becoming cranially stillborn.
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>>743305808
Bloodborne is actually a lot more stringent and open about what happened in general. A lot more happened in the recent past of the setting before your character's arrival.
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They clearly ran out of time/budget and had to stitch together what they had into a somewhat coherent game so who the fuck knows what the original idea was.
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>>743303079
The School of Mensis wasn't so much a secret branch as it was a faction. There are elements to suggest that the Church of Healing had factions with conflicting goals.

The Moon Presence is the force that is creating the Hunter's Dream and keeping the keeper in there. That's Gehrman, or and later you if you keep at that ending. The ENTIRE THING is a plot by the Moon Presence. It's goal is to kill other great ones by manipulating humans into doing it for them.
The game ends when you kill Margo because you did the Moon Presence's bidding, so it's time for you to go or to replace the keeper.

I don't know about the brains, though. My understanding of it was that the School of Mensis wanted to achieve a higher plane by visiting the dream realm and interacting with Great Ones directly. When you kill the One Reborn and go into that little room that takes you into the final area, you find Micolash and the rest of the mensis guys in there. The cage is the device used for them to go and they've all died since because they never returned from the dream world.
When you kill Micolash, he says he can feel himself waking up, because that's what happens when you die in a dream. But his body is dead, so he's just going to disappear.
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>>743303079
>or did they find a retard brain of a Great One somewhere, mistake it for a legitimate Great One and then mistakenly use that to contact the Moon Presence, which made all of them braindead IRL, and their new selves stuck insane inside the Nightmare?

They just rented it from Latria.
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>>743306675
Pretty much
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>>743303079
Dude its a souls game. There is no story beyond "zanzibart took a shart, as it is said in the old legends...but who could say now?". Its just an excuse for miyazaki to make berserk fan fictions in video game form.
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>>743305808
You got it wrong. Dark Souls is a more abstract and opaque story than BB ever is. In BB it's pretty clear that the player, although being one of many hunters, and Gehrman being an allegory for the player getting old overseeing endless hunts, it's very clear throughout the story that you are THE hunter, who is finding the truth and putting an end to the cycle.

And a lot of other details are not actually so vague. You meet Alfred, who you can ask 3 questions from a list, about the Yharnam, The Healing Church, and Byrgenwerth. He flat out says Byrgenwerth is the source of everything related to blood healing, and that it happened after tomb prospectors found a holy medium in the chalice dungeons, and brought back for study. Then you slay Vicar Amelia, and see a cutscene, touching some kinda man-beast skull, that Willem, the guy from Byrgenwerth had a final conversation with someone named "Laurence". And this was the schism between the "scientists" and the "church" which founded the Healing Church, bringing miracles for everyone in the city, but cursing them in the process, because the God Blood found was already known to be dangerous and otherworldly.

Then you move out of Yharnam after dealing with the "Healing Church" stuff, and find Byrgenwerth, and actually meet Willem yourself, but he has glowing testicles sticking out of his neck and can't even speak. Then you see the spider that was mentioned in the notes, which "hides all manner of rituals". Then killing the spider reveals the kin of the cosmos being all over yharnam the whole time, hiding in plain sight, and a Hidden Village with "all manner of rituals".

Then you follow those rituals, and find the Nightmare of Mensis, and in the Nightmare of Men's is, you silence the "harrowing cry" of a baby, which the note in the Hunter's Dream said would halt the source of the scourge.

It's pretty linear.
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>>743306675
Every fromsoft game can be explained like this.
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>>743307650
>the Yharnam
browns go and stay go
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>>743303079
>Nightmare of Mensis



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