valvebros. our response? this doesn't look good for the yacht counter. i'm very worried the next yacht purchase will take longer than expected. help. >https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cooling/valve-confirms-steam-machine-red-light-overheating-warning-is-showing-earlier-than-it-should-bios-fix-on-the-way-will-raise-temperature-warning-threshold-to-100-degrees-celsiusalso why the fuck is that box cover red and not orange. another classic Valve L
>>743305679*nu-Valve
Fix is on the way
95C seems like a perfectly reasonable threshold for a warning, no?
Does anyone even care about this anymore?
>people post about red light>shills defend and blame the posters >valve confirms it is an issue and raises the temperature before the warning startsUm, it is still a user error!
Valve, just shut up and give me games to play
>>743305836It does. I think until 80C (climate/build/dust dependable) is fine, but above that you need to start paying attention and 90C, at least for me, it's a warning sign.
>>743305679It's called a steam machine for a reason. It has to get hot enough to boil water.
>>743305679If we lock in we may be able to get the leviathan 2 by Hanukkah
>>743305836they're rated at least 120c so 95c is a bit low
>>743305865>Um, it is still a user error!It is when the people that reported overheating turned out to put the damn thing in a closed space
>>743306946>it's compact so you can put it in tight spaces!>uhm, did you put it in a tight space???lol
>>743306946But Valve told me I can put this underneath my TV in the cabinet. That was the entire point of owning a steam machine vs a large PC...
You need to get Steve's custom front lid (only $29.99) to avoid the Red Light of Death
>>743305679kek we're back to the PS4 Pro days thanks to Valve's incompetence.>b-but muh ratingjust because something is rated to keep working past 100C doesn't mean it will be a-ok in the long, or the short run. Silicon starts taking permanent long term damage past fucking 70C.
>>743307267>Silicon starts taking permanent long term damage past fucking 70C[citation needed]
>>743305679HAHAHAHAHA 100 FUCKING DEGREES ON A FUCKING BADLY VENTILATED BOX
>>743305679dear amerifats: 100C is 212F. You go ahead and tell me it's OK for computer parts to sustain that temp for hours, so I can laugh at you.
>>743306946Niggertard faggot, can I ask you why the FUCK would you want an overpriced piece of fucking shit which only feature is being small to put it on top of a fucking table you fucking RETARDED ANIMAL
>>743307350your average capacitor alone will fry itself past 3-4 years while holding temps like that regularly.
>>743307584A capacitor isn't made out of silicon.
>>743307510AMD CPUs have a target temperature of 95C.This means under load it will keep boosting like crazy until it reaches 95 degrees, then adjusts to stay on that temperature as much as possible.It was literally designed to run on 95C indefinitely.
>>743307084>But Valve told me I can
>>743306946I thought that was the selling point?
>>743306854Rated lmfao. Shit is beginning to break apart on a molecular level at those temps. Might as well leave your motherboard to bake in the sun
>>743307616>>743307662look son I'm not ethically obligated to protect your money. If you wanna go ahead and buy a heatcube that will die after 4 years tops, be my fucking guest. Just don't be around the internet telling people it will work "indefinitely". That's flat out dishonest.
>>743307817Brother 95C isn't high for laptop CPU/GPU. Said parts are rated for high temperature. As long as the system is able to move said heat effectively it's not a big issue.
>>743307825
>Buying a what is literally a shitty PC controlled by a corporationYou are a worthless brain-dead quadruple nigger if you do this
>>743307679not only valve>>743305836>>743305865>>743306854>>743307817did the el-magreb guy whatever, from nu-Valve living in Wasaigton, not account for different ambient temps? did he thought it did not matter? how over is it?
>>743307817dawg the PS4 and PS5 slim operate on those temperatures all the time on the most demanding games, and so far it never breaks
>>743305679oh no this will be terrible for sales numbers......is what you might say if it didn't instantly sell out and the waiting list is so long that you won't get one this year. you can't even get ahold of one even if you wanted one LMAO, so much for all this ridiculous nonsense about how no-one would want one of these things. Doomers are so fucking retarded man
>>743305679>based aryan explorer buys yachts to explorer the last frontier>plebbitors think mocking it is le based pwn
>>743305679>95C$1000 is a lot for a heater no?
>>743308427I kind of feel bad for that guy. The AI ram crisis totally fucked him.
>>743305679How's the steam machine compared to an rtx 3060 12gb?
>>743308696thisRetards don't understand that Valve always hit the most important sales number:>sold 100%>>743308770Also this.Gaben's "yacht" dropped new Deep Water Creature DLC for real life last month. Pretty based if you ask me.
>>743305749Literally the worst thing they've ever done. They were bound to be invested with this retardation eventually.Sad.
>Hmm, the temperature warning shouldn't be going off... That's a bad sign.>I know! Increase the temperature required to set off the warning!Uh... Shouldn't the solution be making sure it doesn't reach that original high temperature in the first place?
>>743307510We know what 100C is you stupid faggot.
>>743305971Underrated
>>743309231at what price? or is that your current cardgo watch gamers nexus. he has charts with older cards
>>743309752no. according to woke that is exactly how thing works. you simply bend reality you inbred fucking chudcel bigot
>>7433103329070xt my beloved...
>>743309829it's about 23.6 handegg fields
>>743309752It isn't reaching temperatures worthy of setting off the warning, you illiterate retard. Those temps are still within spec for the build.You don't even have to read the article, it's in the fucking headline. Jesus fucking christ.
>>743305679Response? Response to what? A thing is behaving incorrectly and it will be fixed, what is there to respond to?
>>7433092312023 3060 vs 4090. 67% slower >https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-radeon-rx-7700-xt-tuf/31.html2026 still holds true. 4090 196, 3060 59. 69% slower >https://www.techpowerup.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-9070-gre-pulse/30.htmloh nvm. 2nd link has the 3060 listed. W TPU
>>743307991The semiconductors cease to function properly above 100c, but you can cook your computer and then wonder why it dies early if you like.If the displayed temp is 95C you have a hotspot higher.
>>743305836For modern machines seems fine, for older machines it isn't.The pcb tablet of cpu and gpu are way too thin currently then comes the overheating due to modern audiences 0 noise shit and you start noticing the reason of the issues and is mostly poor cooling due to low rpm fans and lack of cooling.For example my old PC with luck reaches 40 degrees in full usage with minimal noise but i bet you can't reach same temp on modern PC.
So should I buy the one I got the purchase email for yesterday?
>>743308696Tfw I can literally buy one from Valve at MSRP right now and just don’t want to
>>743311128what does the 4090 have to do with anything
>>743305679UNRELATED BUT TOMS HARDWARE SHOULD NOT FUCKING EXIST ANYMORE
>>743311513no way
how come consoles never die but gpus do
what an evil company
>>743314354ever heard of Red Ring of Death?
>>743314354Nintendo magic
>>743312858i pegged any card of today to the ratio you had in 2023 between whatever highest tier (4090) vs 3060. that was before i saw the 3060 shows up in the 2026 comparison (i left it in to show going back X years, taking the relative performance from then even with different games, gives good results, for when your card doesn't show up. TPU relative perf chart gave me wonky results at times and it deviates 6 points this time)you had the gamers nexus jpeg above but that's just one (unoptimized) game but i did forget to add what Steam Machine's 28 CU's compares to, which many say is the 7600 (32 cu's) but i disagree with no alternative to give. i didn't want to add or correct that point unless someone pointed it outGN is showing 7600 is faster than the 7600 xt. seems suspicious >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBKKR4swcEE
>>743314354The bigger they are, the harder they fall. Time to make pendrive GPU, it will last forever even Space Marines would be using them
>>743305836Its extremely poor design. Lower temps= longer lifespan
post yfw you didn't boughted a steam machine
>>743307267Then anyone using AMD CPU is fucked. All of the Ryzen 5 CPUs will go up to 95C unless you manually reduce the temp limit.
>>743316307>ryzen 5ZEN 5 that is.
>>743316307delusional
>>743309750Hey pajeet, it is infested not invested, I know that's hard for benchods like you to comprehend while doing your paid anti valce shilling
>>743316576They have a thermal limit of 95C, being able to check AMDs website or the BIOS of a computer with zen 5 CPU is not delusion. They go that high if your cooling isn't enough to keep them below that and they don't throttle until they are at 95C.Many prebuilt computers will also let them go that high.
>>743316307AMD guarantees 3 years of the chip functioning at that temperature so it would be degrading the but it would be doing it within its expected lifespan. The TJMAX is a threshold the engineers choose and even with the cpu functioning within that threshold you will get hotspots that are a bit higher. You'll see CPU performance degrade over time with run it at TJMAX all the time but with proper cooling the chip shouldn't be reaching that often anyway.
>>743316128
>>743305679The fuck? I have one of those Intel CPUs meme'd to burn down houses and even it almost never reaches fucking 90°C
>>743317550Typical valve hardware, my Steamdeck's screen cracked down the middle just from overheating.
>>743307578>Piece of hardware produces tons of heat and has active cooling>Idiots think putting it inside a small cabinet is a good ideaEven OP's pic has it on top of a table, anon. The only electronics that can go inside closed spaces are those with passive cooling.
>>743317550The "housefire" meme is always about obscene power consumption, not temperature. The temperature is not really information you can transfer between different CPUs and draw meaningful conclusions. Not only are the sensors only accurate when temps are close to the TJMAX (their explicit purpose is detect that), but different CPUs have different TJMAX and throttling reasons to begin with.For example, a TDP throttle on something like 9700X will result in 8 core load having significantly lower temps than 1 core load even though 8 core load results in higher power consumption.
>>743305679The Chameleon game alone can fund gaben's new yacht
>>743310332>High Raster and Medium RTWhy?
>>743319173Stress test. Not really a way anyone would have played the game
