>>743306496
the fact you dont know means you have a shitty father too

>>743306496
At least he spend time with his son

I didn't really like this game

>>743306658
>your dad is supposed to be your best friend

kys millennial

>>743306496
Literally the best FFX character

>>743306496
Yes he was emotionally abusive and an absent parent even before his forced absenteeism. There is an argument that he wasn't a bad person. We don't see or hear about him treating anyone poorly besides his son. To some people that alone would make you a bad person but he's still an interesting character because who he was forces Tidus to face a realistic thing that people with bad parents sometimes go through: sometimes your parent was beloved by almost everyone but their child because they are a likeable, fun, charismatic person who just can't handle being a parent. Tidus having to deal with Yuna's feelings of adulation toward him like he was a favorite uncle creates actually realistic and interesting emotional issues for Tidus to cope with. He has to come to terms with his bad relationship with his father while everyone around him talks about how great he was, and frustratingly for TIdus, how similar they are.

>>743306496
he was an alcoholic bully

>>743306496
>his son's gf wears that same symbol
I feel bad for Tidus, do you think he knew?

>>743306748

bitch , he literally bullies Tidus every chance he gets, the game fucking starts with that

>>743306796

you can be a nice person and a shitty father

>>743306496
>dad - emotionally abusive
>mom - emotionally distant
I mean, they both lived tidus, but damn. No wonder the kid got lost in blitz

>>743306496
he was doing the best he could
jecht had no idea how to raise a kid so he just treated tidus like a new recruit on his blitzball team

Jecht?
flawed. tidus was a stud just like his dad, and was going to impress / surpass him anyway even if jecht took his sweet time finding his own softer side
Tidus' mom?
horrible. bad enough to stop tidus from achieving anything because she basically doesnt know he exists and jecht is working

>>743306748
Don't bother. People can't understand that a father who is harsher on their kid because they don't know how to be a father and want their kid to be able to withstand the world is different than an actual abusive parent. Tidus' dad was harsh, and he could have done better, but Tidus is too well adjusted to be the product of an actual abusive parent.

>>743307315
Yes that was the point I was making, that some people feel that way. Personally, I disagree. If you fail as a father because of negligence and the child was born from consensual sex you are a bad person. I would agree with Tidus that his father was not a good person even if the guy was personally nice to me.

>>743306748
No he's supposed to set an example of how to live and be a man and that's why bullying or mocking your children is outrageously bad to do. It teaches them to interact with the world like an asshole.

Snow Dad's better than no dad

>>743307438
This. I imagine he got his grit from his dad, and his happy happy joy joy from his mom

>>743306748
>>743307446
He wasn't even around, even when it was his choice.

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was he a bad dad?

Its funny how people try to demonize Tidus mom when her biggest sins are ignoring Tidus when Jecht was around(because obviously Jecht has no obligation to raise his child) and falling into a deep depression when Jecht disappears. All she does is talk about how great Jecht is, which makes Tidus angrier at the guy because he is such a bad father and piece of shit guy.

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>>743306748
No wonder your generation is so pathetic and retarded.

>>743306496
Absolutely fucking terrible. High ranking deadbeat loser who just happens to be a successful blitzball player. The epitome of "peaked in highschool but maxxed luck."

>>743307967
>when your mom is a groupie

>>743306496
Yes, that is the entire crux of the game. He was barely present and a raging drunk. Being in Spira actually cured him of all of this but it was too late to change any of what he did with Tidus. By the end of the game, Tidus and Jecht at least understand each other and acknowledge their failings.

>>743307848
No
For the entirety of his children's real-world lives he was a great father, whose only failing is that he didn't realize how much his son loved music/didn't care for painting.

Once the game starts, almost everything is the mother's fault, whom he is trying to tard-wrangle because she is coping with loss via addiction (and that addiction is now a vice that his daughter is starting to pick up because of the Mom).

>>743306496
he was a much better dad than tidus worthless mother

Yes he was, he was trying his hardest but was completely clueless and not having a good mom to balance him out did NOT help matters

Tidus's lesson all throughout FFX is he was a great guy but a horrid father

>>743307967
Tidus's mom is some fangirl he nailed from what little we know of her

>>743306496
yes. he should never have been a dad in the first place which is the 2nd worst Dad Ranking you can get, behind only Black

>>743306496
He was but not intentionally. He was in fact trying to be a good dad but he didn't know how.

>>743306496
yes, and no. He had an idea of what he wanted Tidus to become, but no idea on how to actually interact with the kid. Jecht probably didn't have a great relationship with his father either

>>743306496
Yes. He did the best he could after he realised he was though.

>>743309380
too late he realized how shit he was, and too late he tried to be a good dad the only way he knew how

but everything before that was intentionally shit because he did not want to be a dad. at most he thought having a kid would be like having a very passionate fan always juicing him up, and when it wasn't that he lost interest

>>743306748
in adulthood, yes

>>743309380
>he could interact with and be liked by people of all ages, young and old, men and women, civilians, fighters, mages, priests, or blitzballers no matter the location or even the time period
>all except his own son
Absolutely pathetic excuse. He doesn't say cruel shit to anyone except his child, Jecht dick riders will forgive anything

>>743309525
I take Tidus's flashbacks and fantasies with a grain of salt, they are obviously closed by his perspective. That isn't to say that Jecht was ever a good dad, he was shit. But he was a shit dad who loved his son.

>>743309621
People always forget that it took a good portion of Braska's pilgrimage for Jecht to stop drinking
that's the key component

>>743306748
>Not being bros with your dad later in life

>>743306748
My dad is the best.

>>743306796
He doesn't really mistreat Tidus. He just tells him to stop crying all the time. Unironically the best advice he could give him as a man. Stop crying and go solve your problem. The world won't fix them for you.

>>743309741
seriously, who is going to pick him up from his minor surgeries or take him out drinking if not his sons?
Do you seriously want your mom doing that in her old age?

>>743306748
I mean, kind of
ideally you're supposed to transition into it as your child reaches maturity
because you know damn well a 14 year old would rather listen to a friend than some overbearing faggot going "MY HOUSE, MY RULES!" every time things don't go his way

>>743309794
not to mention he does his job as a provider: there's no indication Tidus' mother ever had to work either before or after he left, granted that may be a limitation of the Dream

>>743309794
Stop being a baby is not advice a little kid takes well.

>>743309652
I understand your point generally, but what you're effectively saying it "I value headcanon more than in-game evidence", and that's just not a courtesy I can extend to Square games and FFX in particularly

>>743309794
lol well let me take a biiiiig drink of water and remind myself was Tidus was crying about at the time...

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>>743309731
And part of the conflict with Tidus in that regard being that Jecht would stop drinking for people who were effectively strangers but wouldn't stop for his family too

>>743309652
Tidus needs actual signals Jecht loves him, taking it as a given is something a child, teenager or adult is not going to do after a lifetime of shit fatherhood. He didn't get any signals at all until his own journey in Spira when getting accounts from other people, and even then half of the signals he got that Jecht was a good man were heavily contrasted by Jecht doing the exact opposite in Zanarkand

>>743307585
>It teaches them to interact with the world like a man
FTFY.

>>743306748
Sorry browniod, being friends with your dad is a white guy thing.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0891243217743245

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Was he a bad dad?

>>743309920
The sooner a child grows up, the better. Wasting such a large part of your life being a stupid emotional little shit begging for attention and support is anathema to being a man.

>>743310387
yeah the faster they 'grow up', the faster they can start slaving away for the jew
imagine like crying and having emotions and fun and stuff, what a waste of a life

>>743310556
Women and trannies let their emotions dictate them. Men curb their emotions and be strong.

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>>743306496
Did you do it kid? Or was he the best after all?

>>743310687
I remember my first playthrough I didn't cause i didn't understand what exactly to do. I didn't think it was that important and never tried it again.

>>743310081
nigger, he stopped drinking because he attacked a shoopuf in his drunken bender and caused braska and auron to spend all their money in remuneration. This is not some "accept advice from stranger but not your kid" situation, it's a fucking intervention from the only 2 people that gave a shit about him in his isekai adventure

>>743310324
He literally didn't do anything wrong, he was possessed by his son's past life having become a grudge seething at the world.

>>743310676
to feed women and trannies by state proxy, great job
there's a difference between letting your emotions claim you and claiming your emotions
if you can't handle that, curb them and go wagie to the max; and if that makes you happy, more power to you

>>743310870
Auron didn't like him until he changed. It was just Bradka that wanted him around

>>743306496
He was, but if he hadn't become Sin and reunited with Tidus he probably would have been better.

>>743310870
Jecht embarrassed two strangers and stopped doing something that he wouldn't for his wife and child

Auron fucking hates him until even farther into the journey, Braska likes him because he's a Zanarkaboo and Jecht doesn't forge any meaningful connection with the other two until after he stops drinking, marking the end of him trying to superstar gigachad man-mode looksmaxx his way through Spira and taking his relationship with the other two seriously

Again the Tidus end of the conflict is that Jecht did something for two people he wouldn't do for his wife and child, mostly because he embarrassed himself

>>743306748
>your dad is supposed to be your best friend

Yes? Being a best friend doesn't mean letting your friend get away with being a faggot. I call my friend out when he's being retarded. I want the best for my friend. I want my friend to succeed in life and I try to share what I've learned in my own life to help him succeed. The bond becomes stronger because the both of use know that calling out each other comes from a place of caring about the other person. I hope that my kids are my best friend one day. No wonder so many people hate their parents.

>>743306496
How can he be a bad dad when his son never actually existed?

>>743311183
We're talking about raising a man not someone you sit around with because you're bored.

>>743310940
You'd understand if you were a man.

>>743311289
>not someone you sit around with because you're bored.

Is that what you define as a best friend? Yeesh, no wonder you don't get it.

Auron watched Tidus for like 10 years why wasn't he more of a father figure to him?

>>743306496
He was a bad dad but Tidus's mom was an even worse mother.

>>743311506
Auron's there mainly to watch over him, not to replace his dad, he's a distant uncle and Tidus does treat him and look to him like one

>>743306748
they're supposed to foster a sense of mutual respect by teaching and instilling good morals while also exhibiting discipline. It's a deeper kind of friendship called being family

>>743306817
Yeah he went too soft on the boy.

>>743306496
he was deeply flawed due to accidentally impregnating an obsessed groupie at the height of his stardom, he doesnt know how to be a father or a decent man but he tries and fails, after his journey in spira he realizes how bad of a fuck up he is at least

>>743306796
As someone who had an abusive dad, where my father was charismatic and liked by everyone, but treated me like shit because I'm the only one who would stand up to him (I don't fall for charismatic people, just the substance of what their saying matters more to me), I too struggled being in public with him and having people tell me that he must be so fun to be around all the time. Very rarely though, when he didn't get his way, the mask would slip, and would instantly became verbally abusive and accusatory to the person, who was then taken back at the personality change. I wish that charismatic personality had genuine love for others behind it, but it didn't, it just held genuine love for himself.

>>743307446
His mother raised him.

One of the best written fathers in all of fiction, a genuinely good man

>>743311139
I'd think that losing all the money on pilgrimage is a bit beyond "embarassment". Jecht never faced the consequences of his drinking habit in Zanarkand. People think he peaked and was declining, but he was still considered the GOAT considering the prologue tourney was named after him.

Not to mention Tidus was a kid when he was grilling his ass over drinking. Why would he listen to a kid over his peer? I get what you're saying, but Jecht quitting drinking is rooted more in consequences rather than him caring more about strangers than his family. Him fucking up with the shoopuf situation was likely close to the rock bottom on his remaining relationship in Spira, while his decline on Zanarkand hardly affects him since he's still beloved by many fans and his groupie wife

>>743306748
He isnt supposed to be your biggest enemy you know

>>743306496
Objectively no. He was the greatest parent ever. His parenting brought an end to a 1000 year reign of terror forced upon the entire world, even though it wasn't actually deliberate. Something that probably dawned on Tidus towards the end as well. To argue he was a bad parent you need to take away all other context given in the game.

Even Tidus realizes throughout the story that Jecht wasn't that bad.

>>743306496
It was the mother that was the shitty parent, not him.

>>743312143
>Taken to a far away land
>Taken in by some random dude that sees good in you despite what other people say
>Fuck up bad
>Think fuck I embarrassed not only me but the only guy that seems to believe in me and is highly respected in this place
>Maybe I do need to change
Nta, but this is how I always took it

>>743311207
They did exist no? 1000 years ago? But the Tidus we see in the game was simply a memory.

Bad parents make bad kids. Tidus is a great guy.

>>743312593
Well no, that's not quite it. Dream Zanarkand is a real place that has passage of time, but it's still a dream. The people taken out of it are the result of the dream continuing indefinitely, and they vanish when dream Zanarkand vanishes.

>>743312618
Not true. Many kids grow up to be great people because they were given an example of whom they never want to be like.

Shitty corridor simulator filled with plot holes

>>743312790
Okay.

>>743306496
He was a nig but repented and wanted to make his kid a blitzball star.
The mom died like a piece of shit.

>>743312585
not arguing that, I'm arguing that the catalyst of change is heavier than "oopsie woopsie I did something stupid in front of the bros" and more along the line of "I'm such a fuckup and I gotta get my shit together". I'm just saying that Jecht never had any consequences to the degree of the shoopuf situation in Spira while he's in Zanarkand, hence he had no real reason to stop drinking when only Tidus and a bunch of "hater" is saying that drinking is bad for him.

how can i say if he was a bad dad, it's been ten years since i played it and i dont even remember if tidus was real or jecht was real or yuna was real or if tidus really did get his head blown off by a bomb volleyball

>>743306796
>he was forces Tidus to face a realistic thing that people with bad parents sometimes go through: sometimes your parent was beloved by almost everyone but their child
John Lennon and Steve Jobs's kids got to live that life. Must be a weird thing to live in a world that loves your Dad, who always treated you like shit.

>>743311353
I'm a grown up, I don't contact friends unless I don't have anything else important to do.
You must be a child if you are constantly relying on your friends. Likely the mooch of the group.

>>743309652
That's just headcanon though, the only story we're given is what we see on screen.

for all the flaw Jecht had as a drunk, he never abused his wife or kid, and he still told his wife to take care of Tidus as if understanding that his role to be the asshole dad that push his son while his wife is supposed to be the nurturing half of the parenthood

if anything, it's Tidus' mom that completely dropped the ball when she just lost her will to live after he went missing

>>743310387
Losing your innocence and missing out of your youth is a crying shame.

>>743313035
>had no real reason to stop drinking when only Tidus and a bunch of "hater" is saying that drinking is bad for him.
I think that's what makes the story great. Your kid saying hey you arey that good of a person when you drink should be some reason to change. It makes Tidus hate feel valid that he would change for someone else and not him. At the same time he ends up thinking for a guy I really hate, we do have a lot of shit in common.

>>743306748
GenX really fucking zoomers up in a way that is hard to understand huh? I mean millenials all had retarded boomer parents but at least that was straightforward to deal with

>>743313519
This, men are never at fault, women are always the ones ruining everything.

>>743312593
No, the plot of X is much dumber than that. There's no time travel involved.

>>743306496
Closer to Bobby Hull than Gordie Howe, if you know what I mean

>>743306496
Yes, the fayth made him that way purposefully.

>>743313643
he only hates him because he was competing with him for his mother's affection
once Tidus became a teen Jecht would have been the best dad possible

>>743306748
My dad was an asshole a lot of the time when I was a kid but that was because he didn't know how to be a father and was worried, it took me a long time to understand that once I became an adult. I turned out pretty okay and now he's like my best bud.

>>743310324
Khan was as good of a father as he could've been. The actual issue was Fei's mother being possessed by the evil primal woman who was a sneaky and manipulative being that was good at keeping everything she did secret.

>>743312695
>they vanish when dream Zanarkand vanishes.
yes but they do so in the same manner as any other death

>>743313897
>This kid is great and just like me. Let's go drinking and fuck some whores together
>This kid is stealing my thunder and I need to constantly show this little fuck who's really the boss
Truthfully, I can see it going either way.

The whole point of the story is teaching you that he's a good person but a bad father, which is why Tidus has such mixed emotions over him. He grew up thinking he was a deadbeat piece of shit father (he was) only to realize he was also a fairly kind, heroic person when traveling with Yuna's dad.

>>743306496
GO
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IF YOU WANT IT
AN OTHERWORLD AWAITS YOU

>>743314021
>Women is shit mother who abandons family
but she didn't
Tidus said she waited for Jecht til the say she died and was never same afterwards
You cannot seriously fault the materially successful couple just because the son has an absentee complex about his father who actually went missing through no fault of his own

>>743306496
rekekt wasn't a bad dad.. he just had a pussy son

>>743314154
It would be both at the same time and that would earn Jecht's respect

>>743314057
My best friend's dad was exactly the same, just simply had no idea how to deal with a child. They only formed any kind of relationship when he became an adult.

They still barely talk though. The 20yrs of neglect aren't soon forgotten.

>Jecht gets more replies than Yuna
Why is /v/ so gay?

>>743314158
that's not what happens. tidus got summoned back from the dead to kill his rampaging father

>>743314252
She died of a broken heart, just like Padame lol. It kinda is her own fault

>>743309741
My dad died when I was a teenager so I didn't get that option

>>743314389
That is literally exactly what happens.

>>743313134
Ironic or not, you sound like a pathetic person desu

>>743314021
Tidus was like 6 when Jecht went missing, he didn't have the emotional maturity to process what was happening and probably default to blaming Jecht for everything, including his mother's death

Auron is basically the one who stepped up and practically raised him on his own, which is hilarious when you think how much Auron can actually raise a kid when he himself is still completely fucked emotionally after the Yunalesca confrontation, his death, and the fact he has to hide 90% of what he knows of Jecht and what happened to him

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He unironically did his best. It wasn't very good but you end up kinda appreciating it.

>>743307848
Not at all. He was right and wanted to stop his retard wife and kid from ODing on magic paint. He knew that shit from experience when he was in a similar situation in his past where his wife saved him.

>>743306496
> so GIGACHAD that his son has kekold nightmares where he fucks prime JB
He's only mistake is diluting his genes with Tydus's mom.

>>743306496
>Was he a bad Dad?
No, he was a whale made of light particles and false memories.

>>743314878
cuck nightmare still gives me a chuckle every fucking playthrough I did

I dont get it though. Why was his mom just another regular npc?

>>743314724
Why because I'm not a manchild? I don't need a rainbow flag? I have responsibilities?

>>743314813
Pretty much this.

He was a huge jerk who made a bunch of mistakes, but he also did tell Tidus's mother to pay attention to Tidus when she was ignoring him to fawn over Jecht.

He knocked up a dumb groupie who probably wasn't the love of his life, he had a kid be didn't know how to raise, and his entire public persona was built on being naturally, effortlessly gifted to the point the he went away and trained/practiced in secret to keep up the facade that he never had to work and was just a lazy genius. Hell, he even makes sure to tell Tidus to work hard and instills the value of training and practice into him, because he doesn't want Tidus to wind up becoming like him. Obviously Tidus instead takes that as an insult, because Jecht is an asshole who can't let his defences down for even a moment with his own son, so instead it's presented as if Tidus having to work hard is because he's a loser.

I think by the end of the game Tidus understands that his mother had a large part of the blame and that Jecht wasn't quite as bad as he'd imagined. And he's able to make peace with the fact that his parents just kinda sucked.

>>743315337
The way you're trying too hard right now make it even more pathetic

>>743315423
Being straightforward is triggering to you? You really are a pansy.

>>743315423
>>743315497
get a room

>>743315497
Not really I just think it's funny you're doing this on an anonymous message board

Jecht: Only leaves his family behind when he's unwillingly brought to Spira.
Tidus's mother: Willingly abandons her young son to kill herself, because she's a stupid, selfish asshole.

>>743315563
Doing what? Telling you that grown men constantly hanging around friends is a waste of time unless bored?

>>743315381
It was mostly Yuna who helped him get to know his father better, even after he died. She was genuinely surprised when she found out Tidus hated his father. Like she couldn't even image someone would feel that way about him. Tidus also starts to understand later on, it was mostly his mother and the fact that His dad was dragged into the whole father thing.

>>743315794
You have a very black and white way of thinking regarding friends, which makes me think you don't have any.

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>/v/ seriously has daddy issues.
That explains so much...

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>>743315859
I love my dad. He's awesome.

>>743315851
If you rely on friends for emotional support you're a fag with mommy issues.

>>743315949
You're fighting these imaginary arguments in your head, friendless loser.

>>743315594
Considering he wasn't around that much to begin with, how long do you think it took for them to realize Jecht was even missing.

>people discussing video game
>two fags sucking each other off

never change /v/

>>743315239
I'd like to think that anyone in Zanarkand could have taken Jecht and Tidus' role in killing Sin in Spira and neither Jecht nor Tidus were special entities that is designed by Fayth to be the hero of the story

Jecht coming into contact with Sin was the catalyst that started the story, but it's arguable whether that was the Fayth's design or just a stroke of (bad) luck on his part

>>743316034
Losers with daddy issues deserve to be shamed and bullied

>>743316005
They'd know he was gone the moment the blitz season starts lol

>>743315859
I like my dad, he plays games with me.

>>743316108
its difficult to take you seriously when there is cum on your mouth

>>743315996
There's nothing to fight.
Hey kid, spoilers: you're going to lose every single person you have ever known. If you rely on your friends for emotional support, get a fucking therapist you child.
Grown adults only have friends around occasionally to do some sort of activity together when going out somewhere or completing an agreed idea of what they want to do.
If you're just sitting around all the time with your friends and not doing anything beyond that, you're wasting your time. That simple.
My friends have jobs or careers with a wife and kids to take care of. You're clearly some college age kid with zero family to care for.

>>743316153
You seem to care a lot more about this than you let on. What is your relationship with your dad and your friends like?

>>743306496
He wasn't that bad. Biggest sports star ever, Tidus grew up in as much luxury as could be had in Zanarkand. Taught his son how to play ball and it fucking worked because Tidus was the best player of his time, too. Jecht had a drinking problem and had trouble expressing his love for his son so he acted more like a sports coach than a loving father but he wasn't abusive or anything. Most of Tidus' anger is about Jecht's disappearance and what it did to his mom more than anything Jecht actually did when he was around.

>>743306496
How did Tidus turn out fair-skinned with this guy as his dad

>>743316204
TL;dr
What a waste of human space kek

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>>743316282
>tidus
>fair skin

>>743316286
Yeah like a demon who can't look at the cross without burning their eyes. You can't handle the reality that grown ups have responsibilities and things to actually do and don't have the time to drop everything to be around guys like it's highschool or after class hours in college.

>>743316282
>fair-skinned
Nigger what, Tidus is straight out of GAL-O SENGAN

>>743316387
>schizo shit
kek

>>743316408
See? You're just proving my point that you're nothing but yet another example of a failed man. You can't even carry a conversation without acting like a damn child

>>743316516
You really keep revealing more and more about yourself. kek

>>743316554
The only thing being revealed is that you can't cope that you're a loser who needs to know how a grown up acts because apparently you were raised to be a forever child.

>>743316626
Can you explain?

>>743306748
It's not the primary goal, it sometimes gets sacrificed, but this is the final stage of a good father. Breaking down the paternal facade, to show that underneath it all was an ordinary man, meaning you can do it, too.

>>743316662
Which part?

>>743316727
What?

>>743315949
SOon it won't just be emotional support, nigger, but those times are coming too. You're going to need people who you cna trust not to throw open the gates to your enemies or sell you out for a portion of stored loot. And to be frank the onyl way you really know which way someone is going to turn in a shit hits the fan situation is to have been in a shit hits the fan situation with said friend and to let their actions tell their story as to whether or not they are a good friend. That is something that isn't just received, it is earned typically over years of knowledge and closeness and understanding of one anothers true desires and needs.

Think real hard what you would die for anon. Where is your line in the sand that if crossed will cause you to take up arms. Those times are coming.

>>743316741
You asked me to explain. I asked which part confused you.

>>743316795
What do you mean?

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>>743314786
>Auron is basically the one who stepped up and practically raised him on his own
Their relationship is understated but Auron and Tidus get some of the best little moments in the game imo, like when Tidus is freaking out after Auron tells him Jecht is Sin, and Auron tell him it's alright and stays there with him until he calms down. FF will never have a cooler character than this.

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>>743306748
"Dad be like You'll always be my son What he really mean is I'll always treat you like you're 12.

>>743306748
You're brown

FFX had some of the worst designs Nomura ever made, and this was when he still had some creative juices left in him.

>>743316204
I go to the gym with friends 4X a week and we get together at least once a week to play vidya or go golfing. We all have wives and kids. We support each other. It's hard to talk to your wife about some stuff because there's certain expectations she has of you, and those expectations aren't there with your friends. Though I guess we're all also fairly well off and don't have to be tied to the 9-5 grind like others do, so we have time to hang out with each other. If I worked a typical 9-5 I definitely wouldn't be able to have those friends except maybe in some kind of meetup every 6 months for a bbq or some shit.

>>743316783
Those times have already been here. Thank any God I don't live in a European hell hole or Canada.
We are infected with leftism and illegals here too but at least we are slowing down and during our country. The rest of the other Western world is fucked. Even south Africans are literally forming mobs and beating the shit out of any foreigners for being there.

is t he remaster worth it

>>743316281
I'm not sure if Tidus was a super good blitzer or if Spiran level is just utter and complete shit in comparison.
Dream Zanarkand has basically nightly bouts on the season with professional team, while Spira had just semi-pro teams that gathers once a year assuming they were lucky enough that Sin didn't fucking kill half the players in between season
Tidus hitting the Spiran league is like what would happen if any NBA player goes to a streetball court

>>743317003
no

>>743316827
>Here's that 35 year old I was telling you about

>>743317020
so ps2 emulator?
i wanted 120 fps tho

>>743316932
Sounds like you're dating men

>>743310687
Reloaded the save got it on the second try. AS one anon stated its not super obvious what you need to do right off and you kinda pick it up after you done already boned it.

>>743317081
yeah but the game looks like shit

>>743317081
It's a fucking jrpg from the early 2000s why the fuck would you need 120 fps?

>>743317003
no, emulate the ps2 international version, undub if you're into that, european version if not

>>743306748
I'm sorry your upbringing was so bad it created a monster. Your dad is supposed to be the one friend who never leaves you.

>>743316934
So you're brown? Explains everything. Browns live in constant danger of each other.

>>743317238
Everyone dies
And a father's job is to raise you and not be your friend when it gets to important parts to help you avoid doing stupid shit.

>>743317183
because 60 feels bad at ps2
>>743317221
eu is 50 fps which feels worse

>>743306496
“CAN’T DO IT KID!”

“I’M THE BEST!”

>>743317272
Your reading comprehension is shit, I'm not shocked though.
I'm white and live in America.

>>743317298
If your friends are getting you to do stupid shit, they aint actually your friends.

>>743317361
>America
>white
kek

>>743317298
A good friend does all of that- you have just never had one, only shallow acquaintences. Besides your father and yourself are away at school most of your young life, you are effectively raised by society, learning to respect and follow authority in school.

>>743317305
Why are you so obsessed with fps? Are you autistic or something?

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>>743317361
>american
>white

>>743317336
It's called negative reinforcement

>>743317394
>>743317432
Is there a joke I'm not aware of?

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Themost lovely families inFinal Fantasy

Anymore families I missed?

>>743317416
You think if I didn't follow authority in school my dad would not punish me?

>>743317424
are you mentally challenged? honest question

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>>743306785
*Attack Reels*

>>743317110
Sounds like hes not waging his life away and is building an actual community.

>>743307848
He was a good husband to a bad wife and a good father to a daughter that wasn't mature enough for her abilities.

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When theBoys have afriendly Limit Break Competition

>>743317771
Hate to tell you the bad news but golfers don't build communities.

>>743317567
Laguna and Squall are Father and Son

>>743317614
your dad isn't supposed to punish you directly
he should just send your ass to the school therapist

>>743317746
No I'm not. I don't obsess about pointless shit like fps in a turn based rpg like you do.

>>743316387
bro you have to make time. You're so nose deep into the grind that you have forgotten what tis like to really live and I suppose if thats allyou want is to grind for senpai thats fine, but you're going to look up some day and realize that being a provider while great, isn't enough. You need to teach your kids how to handle relationships with their peers and how they see you handle yourself is going to be the template of how they handle themselves.

You cna get by in life without friends, but Christ, what a stagnant and middling life if all you do is work and grind and provide for your kids. You know you can spend time with kids and friends at the same time right? And create generational alliances. Maybe even join your houses for fucks sake.

Guess it sucks having no one worth making friends with around you.

>>743317969
>fps
>pointless
you're stuck in 2005

>>743317935
What are you talking about?

>>743307967
>her biggest sins are ignoring Tidus when Jecht was around
That's a really big sin wtf do you mean lol

>>743318028
I am not spoonfeeding you faggot learn to read 4chan reply chains

>>743318027
God I wish

>>743318117
faggot

>>743317298
>father's job is to raise you and not be your friend
see
>>743307841
Jecht was more absent than abusive.

Tidus was too young when Jecht disappeared. All the memories we see are just emotional projection of his feelings of abandonment.

>>743318095
I did read what you said edgelord. It just doesn't make sense what you're conveying.
Why would my parent not punish me for doing something bad?

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>>743316934
And without trustworthy men to man the wall during the night you are going to fail. No man is an island and children often aren't prepared for the stakes of fighting for their life. At least not until it happens to them and its time to sink or swim.

To me that is what a friend is. A trustworth individual who won't sell you out when the offer comes because once you prove intractable to the zog they are going to try and break you by any means necessary and that means also selling you out for whatever temptation the zog can put on a plate for them and they are powerful enough to offer up almost anything, or rather the illusion of whatever is wanted. Who knows, they might just be a secret piece of shit. The only way you will know is to see what someone does in a terrible situation and if its every man for themselves instead of for the unit then you're gonna have a bad time. A worse time.

>>743310387
You only get one childhood, this hurry up and grow up mentality needs to fucking die.

>>743318151
How would you even know that?
Also he became a fucking Kaiju because he left his son to help fight the very creature he became and wanted Auron to get his son to be the one to help destroy him.

>>743317894
You have a strange set of constants ruling your life anon. God go with you.

>>743317935
>School therapist
Bitch I'm in my 40s. We didn't have no school therapist.

>>743318384
Go pay putt putt with your boyfriends

TEEdus

its TIE dus

Jecht is a bad father but Auron is Tidus' real dad all things considered.

>>743318563
Oh spare me this black bs

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>>743318310

>>743317924
>I dreamt that I was a moron

Too bad Laguna wasn't based enough to make Rinoa Squall's half sister

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>>743318480
Go be a self righteous faggot somewhere else then. I'm starting to see why you might not have a good time making friends if you're this tedious to deal with on the regular. Good luck.

>>743318624
I'm not here to make friends with you.

>>743318594
What's black about what I said?

>>743318594
Black kids don't get surrogate father's, they just have to go without.

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>>743306748
You really think Tidus is a good example of a man? Have you SEEN what he wears?

>>743318310
>>743318560
Latin speakers would say "tEE-dus" buddy, did you skip out on latin?

Genuinely do you think Jecht could've been a good dad if he was actually ready and serious about fatherhood?

>>743318891
>athletic, water-resistant clothes sutaible for his sport.
this is like saying an athlete wearing athletic clothing like shorts and polo shirt is bad.

>>743319026
Maybe, he really didn't seem to give a shit about Tidus mom. So maybe if he had full custody yeah

>>743318792
>Other man around is muh daddy
Auron only looked after Tidus (despite being dead) because of Jecht. Even in the beginning Auron was keeping lies from Tidus about his father. Even in the beginning when Auron and Tidus were "taken" by Sin you can clearly see Auron look up at Sin and asked "are you sure?". He has always been able to talk to Jecht through some ability.
Tidus even has constant thoughts about his dad because his dad haunted him to b pushed so he could have what it took to release him from the bounds of being Sin. He knew the whole time Jecht believed in Tidus, even when Yuna and others talked so great about Jecht we know Jecht wasn't a bad guy.
We also don't know Tidus upbringing very well. But what we know is Tidus took his father's lessons to heart
You people suck at releasing things right in front of you.
jrpgs have always been anti dad. They're always anti dad because their fathers are either need around because of work or they're always bitter are strict when they are around from working so much. Their sons learn that and they too become like their fathers
That's the entire fucking point. Tidus was going to set Jecht free from everything and be the man Jecht wanted his son to be
Not his shadow but himself

>>743319058
Explain why one pant leg needs to be shorter than the other?

>>743318792
Sorry forgot to mention this part from my comment >>743319286
Even in that scene where the group falls into some sort of cave and lands on some sort of island with ruins around them?
They're on top of sin. Jecht did not hurt them or try to get them off.

>>743319341
Why does it need to have a reason?

>>743319341
if everything is symmetric, its boring fashion design for visually stunning characters.

>>743319341
All of Spiral wore weird ass clothing. Why single out Tidus?

>>743310001
Because Daddy jecht was finally home and laying down pipe thick on mom. Tidus being a little momma's boy was pissed that Mommy didn't pay attention to him and cried about it. Classic Oedipus complex.

>>743318891
What do you mean? It's his team's outfit

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>>743319575
No it fucking isn't. Making everything asymmetrical looks stupid, uncomfortable and impractical.
You can make visually stunning characters without drawing an incoherent mess of an outfit that clashes with itself.
Nomura has literally already done that.

>>743306496
looks like a homosexual so yeah

>>743318963
faggtus sounds faggy

its tie dus

>>743317567
Maria and Leon from FFII are siblings.
Leon worked for the Emperor 90% of the game.

>>743320189
you are the gay nigger that can't be helped.

>>743320479
at least i'm open about it

>>743317886
Tidus is wrong, doing more hits absolutely matters in X, even at damage cap raised damage cap

>>743317614
This brotha inadvertently admitting he hasn’t had friends since he was in school kek

It's pretty much implied that Jecht fucked around with other women and Tidus' mom was just another bitch he fucked.
That's why Tidus was so mad at him. He was a deadbeat dad that rather screw around and party than be with a family.
>250+ replies
did you people even play the game and watch the cut scenes?

>>743317924
>>743318607
Was Laguna a good dad?

>>743318030
As opposed to what Jecht was doing when he was around Tidus, which was ignoring him or bullying him, how does it make her worse?

>>743317053
Looks pretty good for a corpse his age.
>>743317015
Tidus was the star player of his team and we see him tackle an opponent clear out of the water sphere, plus he's capable of doing the Jecht Shot just like his dad which as busted as it gets compared to what anyone else can do in the sport.

>>743307848
who? nowhere near as iconic as jecht.

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>>743310208
based dickbag

>>743317110
>can't conceive of spending time with people and it not being sexual
I won't bother guessing which of the myriad possible traumas that render platonic friendship impossible you've experienced.

>>743321281
I can argue that he didn't abandon Squall out of malice or even ignorance. He didn't know that Raine was carrying Squall when he went to Esthar to save Ellone, that is forgivable.

What isn't is being the president of the most technologically advanced nation on the planet and not using its intelligence apparatus to fucking protect Squall and Ellone and just leaving them in orphanage. Unless the entire thing is based on Edea's understanding that everything has to be done this specific way to bring about Ultimecia's death, he's basically so much fucking worse than Jecht on the basis that Laguna had the resource and ability to take care of Squall and Ellone, but did neither.

But FF8's worldbuilding is all over the place, it's like they just dropped the fucking ball on what Esthar is supposed to be, it's started of as the evil empire under Ultimecia possessed Adell, but somehow turned into the most fucking useless polity under Laguna's presidency that I'm not sure if it was Laguna's incompetence or design in order to prevent them from ever being a threat to the rest of the world.

>>743322467
>Seymour, Zanarkand is is alive