>setting is high magic medieval fantasy>is actually a post-apocalyptic remnant of a hyper developed civilization
One-man armies
Expedition 33
>>743309867so basically gene wolfe?
>the "evil" faction is actually objectively morally superior
>cool mascot character says NO to drugs
>final boss fight>>OST is either main menu theme or credited as the MC's theme
>>743309867>Games acknowledges players feats and achievements.When done right it's Kino.Done wrong it's Reddit.
>>743310104The trope predates Gene Wolf by about 3 millennia
>>743309867Name 1 example of this trope being implemented well. No, Final Fantasy Tactics isn't a good example.
>>743309867>game has a hub area>it gets more developed and populated as the player progresses
>>743310547Caves of Qud
>>743310547Grandia.Xenogears.
>>743309867In-universe explanations for various meta game mechanics. Rewinding in Sands of Time, Vita-Chambers in BioShock, deaths in Super Meat Boy, using the wind for directions in Ghost of Tsushima.
>>743309964>>743309867>The MC is feared by both good guys and bad guys>Warning: the Slayer has entered the facility https://youtu.be/zg6quDrygSI?is=fhcz38-RPTgPhSKe
>Opening changes for the second of the game>Battle music changes between chapters>Rival character battle music
>>743309867>Start out aa a villager>Endgame is killing god
The final phase of the final boss is you beating the shit out of the boss(es)
>heros fail to stop the main villain>have to see the consequences of their failure>regroup and try to overcome the new, much greater threat
>>743310547Panzer Dragoon Saga
>>743310547FFT doesn't even lean into it all that much. Other than Mustadio's gun and the airship graveyard you're never beaten over the head with it.
>>743310452I would say he is the most successful person to implement it though. I'm currently on book 10 of 12
>>743310437Any examples for when it's done right or not?
>you become such a monster that your party members turn against you
>>743310701Xenogears is so kino when you start finding out about Zeboim and there's the flashback of Kim with Elly on NYE, especially because Zeboim is so advanced and yet it's still controlled by Myyah in the shadows. Pure kino
>>743310996Still waiting for the Vagrant Story sequel where you play as a conspiracy theorist on a quest to uncover the mystery behind "the Cataclysm" 2500 years ago.
protagonist and/or allies utilizing evil sources of power for the cause of good
>>743309867>game forces you to slow movement to crawl sneak during an action set peice>camera pans to the side so you can view the destructionKino
>>743311190i love everything about vagrant story except for the gameplay
>>743310547>No, Final Fantasy Tactics isn't a good example.Wanna elaborate, faggot?
>>743310547I would actually go FFT for the good example and it's weird polar opposite FF16 for the bad example.God why is FF16's plot just FFT but shitty.
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>>743309867>game has a set battle theme the entire game>an emotional or impactful moment happens that causes the battle theme for the rest of that area to changeKino.
>>743311583>random battles happen>music track doesn't change, still depressing overworld themeKINO
>>743309867>picking the gayest fedora tipping faggotryop eats shit
>>743311654>>743311583>Cosmic horror enters the room>not sure if scripted>chase music starts blastingFugg
>>743311190Vagrant Story 2 is my most painful never ever. It's not fair man.
>>743311729Also this... but i didnt want to be mean to the 80iq OP
>>743309867>boss is you but better
>The church/god is evil and the demons are the good guys>Big imperialist army is evil to a nearly cartoonist degree and is ruled by mustache twirling degeneratesUnironically based
>>743310547Xenogears
>>743310547wizardry 8 it's about as science-fantasy as DND always was but most games go pure fantasy when referencing it
>the main character starts the game as a pathetic weakling but repeatedly challenges himself and continues to grow stronger through adversity until he grows into a genuine legend
>utterly unexplainable cosmic horror in a setting filled with them>resisted/defeated/outlasted by the indomitable human will
>rival/antagonist becomes your ally
Vocal tracksHi-Fi Rush was so good with both its soundtracks
>>743310547minecraft (before notch left)
>inhibitors unlocked
>>743311836i like this figuratively but literal is fine
>>743309867Are there any examples in games where the advanced society hasn't decayed and the medieval fantasy dudes just aren't aware they live in the modern day?
>>743310547etrian odyssey
>>743309867>tropesreddit memes
>secret ending to become a god
>>743312194How would that even work? Is the advanced society present or not?
Race recognition as a core mechanic.
>>743311836>boss is an identical copy of you and is still hard to beat, making you realize how terrible you are at the game
>>743310693>>743311392kino
>second-to-hardest boss is evil lord mega death killslayer, destroyer of universes>hardest boss is just some guy
>White guy from New York is in the top 3 most powerful warriors in the setting
>>743309867>/v/iggers hate the game>it’s actually really good
>>743309867Yeah, like every jrpg ever
>>743310335FF16 final boss fight was so goddamn amazingly kino I almost couldn't take it
>>743312392There's so many ways>floating continent above the modern society>gated community with some kind of government with knowledge of the outside world that forbids everyone inside from leaving>virtual reality
>>743312697Arcanum has this immortal super elf wizard god guy who once faced off with his greatest opponentsome fucking random barbarian who was slaughtering everyone before he even got an op ass magic evil sword
>some seemingly irrelevant conversational detail with an unnamed NPC sends you on a quest resulting in a grand tour of details you'd have never noticed if you had just followed the main quest>there's even a good item at the end
>>743309867>Nobody could do that!>Nobody... except [Protagonist].
>>743313023Wasn't Carmageddon something like the second one? Or maybe they did have knowledge and it was just a ghetto, I forget.
>>743311808You got Souls as consolation at least.
>>743311091>find all collectablesGood, shows that you explored the map, did all the quests>pet the heckin doggoBad, fits with the gag inducing babification of games where trying to be hip gets you internet doots by people gaping at a camera going "ZOMG I can pet dogger, game is amazing"
>>743309867>early game boss is a trash enemy in late game>bonus points for if its stats are identical or very, very close
>final boss can use a previously player-only mechanic
>>743313820Always kinoBonus points if boss was former mentor or mirror/foil in some manner
>>743313820>focus!
>the actual main character died before the game events even began, you were playing as his best friend who posed as him in order to take revenge for his deathUnimaginably cool trope, shame i have only seen it once and the game ended on insane cliffhanger.
>>743310547Might&Magic I-VIII
>Game is called Return to Castle Wolfenstein>You start in Castle Wolfenstein>You return to Castle Wolfenstein at the end>The penultimate level is called Return to Castle Wolfenstein
>>743310547Metaphor ReFantazio
>>743310547Ar Tonelico
>>743311091I can't remember which game, but in saint row one of your main homies acknowledges that your player's character is a relentless badass that leaves nothing but death and destruction in his path while reaching his goals. Enough acknowledgement like that is goodHowever, games that suck your dick like the recent Doom or mentioning "punching boulders" from resident evil 8 is reddit.
>>743310335Regardless of what people thought about the game... Elden Ring doing this was kino
>>743311091In Skies of Arcadia if you flee too many random encounters you get a Coward title and NPCs will start avoiding you
>You were never the chosen one after all.>You have to fight the actual chosen one before the final boss.Fucking K I N O
>>743310547Shining Force.
>>743309867>the enemies are Planet Earth's immune system and humans are the disease
>>743313283iirc that "ideal" gated community in TDR2K is fake and just a prop for propaganda if I recall the ending correctly. Carma 1 and 2's worlds aren't apocalyptic.
