Both are controversial games that took the franchise into different directions. I like RE a lot, but i feel 4 edges it out as a whole because it's not trying to salvage another game (vanilla 3), even if i have my issues with 4.Which one do you think was best and why?
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I dont like either. even dragon sword is better.
3 has playable kasumi
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I liked NG4 until I tried MNM
Learned my lesson, next time i'll claim one of these is better than 2 and that Itagaki is a hack.That is sure to bring some shitposting at least.
>>7433184462fag here, we're already aware of how hopelessly outnumbered we are by ng4zoomers NG4 will probably be more fun in 10 years when hardware can run it at 60fps with no drops consistently on max settings and someone figures out how to make the enemies less spongey
DEAD THREADDEAD FRANCHISEDEAD CREATOR
3RE is better because it still feels like NG. NG4 should have been an original IP.
>>743314648Both are shitty button mashers
>>743314648Both are extremely good, stellar action games. It's hard to pick one, they're quite different from each other and gives a different feeling of play experience, both have things they excel at compared to the others.
>>743314648what was the different direction with 3? running out of budget?
>>743318604>NG4 enemies>SpongeyVanilla NG2 has several enemies that are tankier than the tankiest NG4 enemy
2 is overrated
>>743319789They removed the gameplay mechanics and gameplay loops related to ultimate guidance and essence to do something different with the bloody rage, bloodied enemies, the way ninpo works, SoB etc
>>743319857True, but when it's good it's REALLY good, like best in the genre level of good, unfortunately that is only for a small minority of the game's chapters.NG2 has probably the most jarring and extreme range of quality of any game I've played. Heart of Darkness is genuinely some of the worst in the entire genre DMC2 levels of terrible, but then you have something like A Tempered Gravestone which is one of the best levels of any action game ever.
>>743319798idk man, I have 300+ hours in ninja gaiden 2 on MN and the enemies in NG4 on normal even felt like a pain in the ass to kill HP wise
>>743314648I liked 4 a lot idk
>>743318902>DEAD CREATORNG precedes Itagaki, you know?
>>743319857It has total shit parts but imo there's no melee action game that feels better.
>>743319798You can't do shit in 4 if you run out of meter.
>>743318604Know your place.
>>743321187Nobody gives a fuck about NG in general, but absolutely nobody gives a fuck about the original games.
>>743314648The new narrative is that NG3 is the best and was never bad. So I am going with 3. NGB and NG2 suck; the series took decades to finally make a good game aka NG3
>>7433146484 is the better game, but if we were to get a NG5 and it's not by Platinum again but instead in-house, then I'd prefer if it played closer to 3RE, since it's more in tune with series' fundamentals, even if still a departure.It's kinda like comparing Dark Souls 3 to Lords of the Fallen 2023. I think Lords is a better game, but I wouldn't want a Dark Souls 4 made by that team if I had the choice. It just doesn't really feel like a From game, and game feel is important.But I also really like Nioh, so NG5 by Platinum that plays like 4 while Team Ninja makes more Niohslop is also a great future to me.
>NG2 is bad nowFucking larpers.
>>743321834>in-houseDid you see Nioh 3? Team ninja is dead.
>>743321951Better than most of Platinum's recent output, honestly. Ninja Gaiden 4 was great but it's not like Platinum is swimming in gems, it's almost a miracle this one was this good.Also not by the Nioh 2 director, Nioh 3's director only ever directed a game before this back in 2001. So the real nigga is yet to release something since Rise of the Ronin. Which was also not great but a lot of people are looking back at it and saying "you know what? this is better than Nioh 3."
>>743321886It is though? You would know if you played it.
God I fucking hate Nioh 3. Such a floaty piece of shit with horrible hitstop and sound design.
>>743322257My problem with Nioh 3 is that it's way too easy, like way way way too easy, I'm hardly an hot shit pro gamer I struggle a lot usually, but Nioh 3 is so incredibly easy it's retarded. When I look at NG2Black which also dropped the difficulty by a whole tier, and the recent Fatal Frame remake also getting easier, it looks like they're trying to pander to casuals.
>>743322437it also has blockslop and dodge slop and resource bar slop. just let me kill the fucking enemy ffs
>>743322598The Fatal Frame 2 thing was truly baffling to see, yeah. Because the reason why they put Team Ninja on board, stated by the director himself, was that they identified "too easy" as a main issue the original had and they should try to correct. They were intentionally making it more complicated because the original was considered by the director himself to be braindead.Then they get like five tweets saying it's too hard and they immediately throw away the balance they've been playtesting for years? The fuck, man. Feels like every game I start playing day one gets nerfed to oblivion before I can even reach the choke points because NEETs rush through the game like madmen and whine every time they encounter a challenge. I still have no clue how original Radahn or Balteus played and I preordered both of those games. My bad for having a job I guess.
NG4 had more corones than DMC4 when it comes to introducing a character.Why yes, it has nothing to do with OP's question. And?
>>743322672Its everything across the board but after going back to Nioh 1 on PC it feels like a completely different engine. The movement, weight and sounds - Iais etc just hit so much more crisp.
>>743323205Doesn't just feel, it literally is.I wish they just went back to Nioh 2 tier tech, being able to run it at locked 120fps while still looking very good to my eyes is worth a lot more than whatever they added since.What DID they even add? Shader compilation? Thanks.
>>743321637>nobody gives a fuck about the original games.Maybe not tourists like you.
>>743314648NG3 is like a worse NG2 and NG4 is like a worse NG1. So I much prefer NG3 personally
>>743323771Nioh 3 also has insanely oversensitive dynamic brightness to the point where the screen is constantly going from pitch black to bright white just traversing the mapIdk how normalfags don't even notice it
I think 3RE's issue is that SoB encourages a bit of a passive playstyle, ironically enough. My runs ended up devolving into delimbing an enemy and waiting for it to do the red attack so i can charge ninpo, regen health and kill things fast. In fact the encounters are usually designed around a weak enemy for you to kickstart the SoB Chain. Some enemies also disregard this mechanic like the purple/winged fiends. And the alchemists are enemies that are just plain tough to deal with and depend a lot on how you attack them.4 lives and dies by the blood meter and once you run out you'll have it rough, but at least i find that the defensive options like counters, perfect guards and dodges give you a bit more room to maneuver until you build meter back.
>>743314648Razor’s Edge since it felt like it is an improvement and follow up to the series. Story although not great built upon the series. NG4 plays like shit removed a lot of key gameplay elements from the main series and has a horrible story that contradicts the main series. It can fuck off. Phil Spencer and platinum killed Ninja Gaiden. Ryu is a failure now.
>>7433146483RE is basically my favourite action game ever. The best and fastest NG combat, 4 characters who are all fleshed out and fun with deep movesets and tech to learn, and the ninja trials are basically the best parts of the experience all condensed into endlessly replayable mini levels. There are like 20 costumes to unlock, the difficulty is as high as it gets, and the only thing really wrong with it is that some of the enemy types (chimera) are boring to fight.NG4 is very fun to play and the animations/feeling of attacks is nice, but it's impossible to consider it a Ninja Gaiden game with all the intentional departures it makes from the series. It is basically the DmC of the series; you might do some of the same moves and use some of the same weapons, but it doesn't look, feel, sound, or play like Ninja Gaiden.
>>743321529Running out of meter is a skill issue
>>743321886People has been critical of that game since it released anon.
>>743316428This. All that matters.
>>743325204>I think 3RE's issue is that SoB encourages a bit of a passive playstyle, ironically enough.Only if you want a high score, really.
What's the general opinion on NG2B? I'm playing it now, I don't really care enough to go the trouble of getting the original NG2 even if it does seem a bit more interesting. I'm not that far into NG2B but it seems too easy compared to the first game so far. The first game often frustrated me, but it was a memorable experience for it in a way I'm skeptical NG2B will be.
>>743326692I'm critical about some aspects of it too, but it's still a god tier game.
having just given Suckiro another try, I'd rather be stuck with a piece of trash like NG3RE for eternity over straight up crap like any Shatin'em Gayms or From Shitware titles.
>>743327110its an easily accessible version of ng2b, so we need to say it sucks to keep up the illusion of vanilla ng2 being gods gift to gaming just cause enemies die faster
>>743327110It has 'some' tweeks that make combat closer to vanilla but it's still sigma 2 at the end of the day.There's no replacement for vanilla 2, as of.That said, depending on what you dislike about 2B it really won't change much.I still like Vanilla 2 less than Black/Sigma 1
>>743327110A decently "balanced" version of NG2 that fixes all the dumb shit wrong with Sigma, but without going back to the vanilla version. I would recommend it to any first time player and it's going to be the version of NG2 I probably play the most in the future.
>>743327110You're playing a version that got it's difficulty nerfed 3 times.First NG2 which was hard even on "normal mode" to > NGSigma 2 which was easier on "normal" mode to then > NG2B which is actually just Sigma 2 again except they bumped down a difficulty tier, so 2 Black's "normal mode" aka path of the "Warrior" is actually Sigma 2's easy difficulty. So you need to choose hard mode to get the actual normal mode in 2 Black.Team Ninja does this for all their new games btw.
>>743327364Dislike is a bit strong a description for it, I'm still enjoying it, it just feels a bit like Sigma 1 with the edges sanded it off in a lot of ways, for better and worse. Although I feel like Ryu is also a lot more sluggish which surprised me, maybe I'm just misremembering Sigma 1's movement but I feel like the dodge into jump in particular felt a lot faster with a lot more distance off it.
>>743317301Enemy damage just feels too overtuned to be fun in MN IMO, but I still want to play it because of the different enemy layout.If they had the MN enemy spawns with Hard level damage that would have been perfect.
>>743325663It was almost the best, but SoB ruins it and there's some weird input lag or heaviness to the controls that's not in any of the other games, which is wierd and kinda sucks.Still finished MNM and had a black. It has the most balanced MNM (I even finished it without spamming SoBs)Also still it has some trully dreadful bosses and lacking ennemy variety, some of the new monsters were boring to fight.It's funny that NG4 is the most consistently good game in the series (but sadly I can't get into MNM because the parry mechanics suck ass among other jankness)
>>743327623SoB is eight quintillion times better than "Delimb > OT > Jump > On land insta charge UT". At least SoB needs you to look at your screen and go near enemies.
>>743327839Kusuri Gama and Eclipse Scythe make SoB piss easy
>>743327545>>743317301if you use ryu it absolutely trivializes master ninja but obviously the intent is to play yakumo where its quite a bit harder. personally I would have liked if they tuned down the damage but made it so you cant do ng+ for master ninja. none of the other games let you use ng+ on master ninja and part of the game was getting upgrades as you went/deciding what to buy, etc
Why does this fucking game crash so much>?
>>743316428Why haven't they still made a Kasumi NG?She's popular and they could actually get sales if they go for the coomer audience like Stellar Blade.
>>743314648Ninja Gaiden 4 is one of the best games ever madeNinja Gaiden 4 is the best action game ever made.Ninja Gaiden 4 is the best Ninja Gaiden game ever made.NG3 and NG3:RE are dogshit.I will always love NG4 for exposing all the shitters and posers and for filtering Farnham the Cumdrunk during his live stream for all to see.
NG4 wins out because it has a better campaign, the best DS moveset, and Yakumo is the best controllable character in ANY of these games.3RE has a decent combat engine but I HATED most enemies and 99% of stages consisted of arena-corridor-arena... unlike older gamesFaggots pretend like "it's not a REAL Ninja Gaiden because.." despite literally every game making significant changes to the mechanics. This isn't a yearly COD shits gonna change, and even then 4 isn't as big of a departure as 2 was from 1, or 3 from 2..>>743328196>>743317301>MN Yakumoyou NEED to have parries down for MN Yakumo, it's just a requirement the game expects
>>743318604You are not a NGII fan, you are a Smegma secondary and probably a third worlder.NG4 is the only game that reproduces the gameplay feel and adrenaline of NGII. I played NG4 at 1440p 180FPS LOCKED max setting perfect framepacing G-sync enabled and it was the best action gaming experience I've ever experienced, the engine is phenomenally well optimized and has the lowest input delay/latency ever made for action games, it is a magical experience.
>>743327216Sekiro is an action-adventure game, not a pure action game.Miyazaki allows FromSoftware directors to make games now without his involvement, when Hamatani and Yamamura make a pure action game, you will change your mind.Miyazaki incompetence kept back FromSoftware action game design, see pic. Luckily, those days are now over.
>>743329921I own an xsx just to play NG2. >the engine is phenomenally well optimized stopped reading herekill yourself nigger
>>743330708Get a job and upgrade your dogshit GPU instead of blaming the game.
>>743314648Gaming died because you fags didn't buy NG4.
>>743327110I consider the White mod to be an improvement in every area. It becomes a genuinely really good game with that mod, so I think it's a great way of experiencing the game, even for the first time, I'm not enough of a purist to say vanilla or nothing, but you're really missing out by playing unmodded 2 Black or Sigma 2.
>>743330861>upgrade your GPUI have a better idea, how about Team Ninja releases their game in a playable state on Xbox Series X, LOL. You subhuman.
>>743331031Oh I am talking to a retarded console fag who played NG4 on console instead of PC.Only reason I have my Xbox is for NGB and NGII.If these games ever get recompiled native PC ports, I am selling my Xbox.
>>743331298>If these games ever get recompiled native PC ports, I am selling my Xbox.Look at this fucking poorfag larping as some rich idort lmfao. If you really had money like that you wouldn't give a shit once the recomp is out. Bye poor boy
3RE is vastly superior to 4 because it's not generic P* garbage. 4 feels like shovelware
>>743331621How so?
>>743329921>you are a Smegma secondary>t. retard that stands by the original unfinished, unpolished version even Itagaki regretted releasingLMFAOXBOT, GO HOME
>>743331536I can tell you have never experienced a high end gaming PC and how fast things load, it puts shitty consoles in the dust.
>>743331987just post your gameplay already so we can get this over with.
>>743331676NGII is still superior to NGB, Itagaki regretted Tecmo being subhumans and fucking over Team Ninja and their games, not NGII itself, meanwhile he actually regretted NGB design choices and openly said they were bad.NGII was the best NG game ever made, until NG4 came out.As for the Hayashit smegma versions, they are abominations and nobody serious about NG plays those games.
>>743332084I don't make webms, I don't make videos nor do I stream.
>>743332216>DMCslop 4 is better than NGIIget off my board
>>743332290Depserate cope.
>>743332267cope
>>743332329There are enough juggling simulators to juggle your balls with until the end of time>dmc1>dmc3>dmc4>dmc>dmc5>bayo1>bayo2>bayo3We didn't need more juggleslop Jim. We needed the REAL NG4.
>>743314648>different directionsRazor's Edge took them fucking nowhere different unless you think QTEs are mindblowing. They doubled down on the abysmal dogshit that is 2 and sigma 2 and made a hallway action game with 0 thought put into it past "just throw enemies lol".
>>7433146483RE > 4 > 3
>>743329789Silence, brown.
>>743329885>NG4 has the best DS moveset>When it's literally NG3 dragon sword but with way fewer movesare you a real person with eyes
>>743331298Worked fine on my Piss 5.For some reason it's kinda ugly and slightly unoptimized for Muttbox which is weird because Pajeetsoft funded this game. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=36iBjE-JrqUBut it doesn't seem bad enough to be a deal breaker desu, dunno why that anon is bitching.>>743330925This except unironically.Everybody who made excuses not to buy NG4 on launch is responsible for the death of the best genre in video games.No I don't care if you didn't like Yakumo. Or the story. Or the music. That's fucking irrelevant. We get one stylish action game every other year. It was up to all of you to buy and support this game if you want more. All of your complaints are weak nitpicks because overall this game is good on its own.Phantom Blade Zero is releasing soon. It is a braindead soulslite masquerading as an action game. It'll definitely sell well because of the Chinese however there is a risk that a non insignificant number of retarded normgroids in the west will play it and claim how it's a good action game. This will further degenerate this genre and just when we had the chance to escape from the Bamham combat mold we're going to get stuck and fucked in the Soulslike mold. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc4M5SO9X9EPlatinum's next TMNT game is already confirmed to be much slower and not at all like NG4 or MGR. And it's all your fucking fault.
>>743334262>Platinum's next TMNT game is already confirmed to be much slower and not at all like NG4 or MGR.I pre-ordered deluxe edition of NG4 on Steam.I will pre-order the deluxe edition (most expensive edition) of The Last Ronin as soon as it is up on Steam.Platinum Games made the best action game ever made with Ninja Gaiden 4, they proved themselves, can't wait to throw more money at them.
>>743334262ng4 is shit. if it was good it would have sold. simple as.stop hyping your turd of a game that flopped harder than shartnin
flopped harder than shartnin btw
>>743334262No. I won't buy a shit game just so a genre can continue existing. You're no different from the type of doomposters that cried how DMC died because nobody gave a fuck about the reboot.
>>743334539As someone who actually liked both Korra and Transformers I'll hold off until I see how it's played. Their previous TMNT was cooldown ass for kids. They said how turtles are tanks so it has to be slower which is worrying me. If it's their take on soulslite formula I'm going to follow my leader and 40%.
>>743334750It is going to be an action game, not a souls game. Of course a TMNT is slower than Ryu Hayabusa, I don't want the game to play as fast as NG4, it would be immersion breaking.
>>743334917ng4 isnt even fast lmaooo you baby
>>743334564>>743334707It's not shit. How is it shit? Do you know what a shit game is? With all of your nitpick complaints you could render this game down to a 7/10. That still mogs most of the shit releasing nowadays. And because it is an endangered genre and you're ITT claiming to care, it was up to you to fucking buy it to get more.What games do you even play? What games did you buy this year and the last? Let's hear it. Cunt. Let's hear what deserved your money more than NG4.
>>743335050It is the fast Ninja Gaiden game.
>>743335050Quite literally the fastest action game ever. The only game faster and more technical than it is DMC4 turbo Dante guard flying which you absolutely cannot do.
>>743335064>. Let's hear what deserved your money more than NG4.You got me by that logic. The trashfire that is NG4 deserved money more than the rest of the fecal wasteland that is 2025. But I'd rather not buy trashfire to begin with.
>>743335064You are talking to low IQ subhumans who got filtered by NG4 and/or the cucks who watch Farnham the Cumdrunk and are on a hate crusade against NG4 because it filtered and exposed their idol live on stream when he got filtered by a simple meter management system.
>>743334262>Platinum's next TMNT game is already confirmed to be much slowerWhere can I find more info on it?
>>743335329They had an interview somewhere. It's seemingly high budget. But yeah they said turtles are more like tanks so don't expect it to be fast despite being ninjas. I hope to god they're not aiming for nuGOW and Soulslike normgroids.
>>743335164>>743335175LOL it’s over for these threads, you zoomers are actually huffing galaxy gas if you think Ng4 is faster than 3RE let alone 2
>>743335064This Finn made this masterpiece and bailed. Literally the only video on his channel.
>>743335235>it filtered and exposed their idol live on streamLmao. It makes sense now. No one can play gayden on stream.
>>743335235Meter management doesn’t belong in Ninja Gaiden, hope this helps
>>743335508I dunno what to tell you. You either didn't play it or you're so geriatric you didn't grasp half of the mechanics and cancelling. Telling on yourself.>faster than 3RE let alone 23RE is faster than 2.
>>743335436>>743334262I hope NG4 was a rude awakening for Platinum so TMNT Ronin is a Dad of War or Souls like.There's nothing I want to see more than Platinum join Team Ninja in no longer making action games that nobody buys and become a factory that produces nothing but cookie cut turds but with a small gimmick that makes them slightly stand out.
>>743335639Lol you never played 2 on Master Ninja, get the fuck out of my thread you zoomer98% of you subhumans didn’t even UNLOCK MN on og2 let alone beat it
>>743335751Calm down, Capcom executive.
>>743335851Capcom doesn't give a fuck about DMC.>NetflixThey cared about the bag of money Netflix and the Indian offered.
>>743335831Your ass gets raped in 2 harder which makes it more hectic. But 3RE is still absolutely faster with the traversal and the movesets.
>>743335831>98% of you subhumans didn’t even UNLOCK MN on og2 let alone beat itIncluding (You).
>>743335946Now it’s YOU who’s telling on themself for not knowing the movement tech and cancels
200 hours MINIMUM just to learn how to play OG2 on MN. If you don’t have that then you don’t know how to play stop posting in my thread.I know you fags just sit around the corner and charge UTs lmaoo
Notice how they're too scared to answer this>What games do you even play? What games did you buy this year and the last? Let's hear it. Cunt. Let's hear what deserved your money more than NG4.They'd rather larp as le hardcoar OG 2 based gamer lads that totally beat it on MN.
>>743333057do you even GLEAM motherfucker?
>>743336053>>743336257Post gameplay.
>>743327416>NGSigma 2 which was easier on "normal" mode>NG2B which is actually just Sigma 2 again except they bumped down a difficulty tier>source: my unwashed assholeXniggas still utterly RAPED that they can't just delimb every enemy and glory kill it in two hits like the rushed original slop version
>>743336285gacha gamesshmupsphone gamesOnce you become a prodigy at Ninja Gaiden II on Master Ninja you graduated from hardcore gaming and are allowed to play whatever you want.
>>743327416NTA but 2 Blacked is harder than 2 Smegma. Even added more enemies in patches.
>>743332290 completely TRVKEd >>743332216can't take ever take rabid fangoys seriously
>>743336365Figures. Here's your MN diploma. You're free to waste all of your shekels on gacha jpegs instead of NG4. You're also welcome to come and shit up every NG4 thread with your superior og conqueror wisdom.
Reminder.
>>743336690It makes no sense to compare highest difficulty from games with unlockable difficulties with base difficulties from other games with unlockable difficulties.Comparing a base difficulty Nioh clear to a Critical KH II makes sense because you can pick both on your first playthrough, comparing base difficulty Nioh to Climax, DMD, Master Ninja or Revengeance is genuinely retarded and whoever made this doesn't actually play the games they talk about.
>>743336309No because that shit sucks. Disregarding the fact that NG3 Ryu has 5 more weapons than NG4, the NG3RE Dragon Sword moveset is the best weapon in the series and it's not up for debate.
>>743336690NGB stats? Must be even lower.
>>743337856NGB larpers are so annoying.2 is harder.
>>743337947Stream?
>>743337971Are you fucking serious? NGB is nowhere near as hard as 2. Nobody disputes this.
>>743325204>>743326879Neither of these are entirely correct. Waiting for an SoB puts you at risk of being pressured and comboed by multiple enemies including the delimbed one that will shred your health, and waiting also causes your combo count and multiplier to drop which heavily affects Karma gains. This is all why enemies take so long to recover from a delimb. Waiting for SoB is the training wheels method of approaching the game which isn't particularly effective or rewarding, especially long term. Delimbing, then moving to the next target, then SoBing naturally is the end goal.
>>743338043>Nobody disputes this.That's because no one plays the games. Now off you go.
NG3RE is probably my favorite NG out of the master collection; I haven't played NGB or NG2Not a huge fan of Platinum and I hated Revengeance, way too parry heavy. I thought they were fucking with me during the Monsoon boss and had to consult a playthrough, so boring. NG4 looks like everything I hate about Platinum and more, I'm pretty sure I'd rightfully hate it. There's no way it plays better than RE.I want to paizuri Ayane in her nu outfit
>>743338203
>>743338203>I thought they were fucking with me during the Monsoon boss and had to consult a playthroughHoly fuck resetera invalids post here...
>>743338343consult a playthrough in disbelief of how shitty it was. I thought I was doing something wrong because of how retarded it was.
>>743338279maybe some ai art is ok
Animals like >>743338868 killed this genre btw.
What's wrong with Monsoon, is that the pink guy? dont you just counter his orbs or something
>>743338093>360Y with the Scythe in you are path
>>743339020the guy that breaks up into pieces, yeah. it's a long promptless qte
>>743338203Sigma 1 is really good. Black is a bit better but I don't think it would change your ranking at all, unless the whole reason why you rank it lower than 3 is Rachel, then it would.Sigma 2 is kind of shitty so this one could definitely change your ranking. Make sure to play vanilla 2 whenever the decomp comes out.
>>743339092>unless the whole reason why you rank it lower than 3 is Rachel, then it would.I enjoyed the short Rachel segments, I was a bit surprised how much people dislike them. I've tried a few times, not terribly hard, to get NG2 working on Xenia, but I still get the audio issue.
>>743338938
>>743337589>I refuse to use half the moveset so the moveset sucksGleam DS is the most SAUCE Ryu has ever had and the entire 3RE weaponset is mogged by Tonfas and DS Ryu gets mogged HARD by Kasumi having proto-Gleam
>>743339857Wonder if they'll add this outfit to DOA6LR or wait for 7
>>7433146484 is my favourite bg, possibly my favourite combat of any action game, but I'm a platinumhead not a TN head. I just wish the rapier drill was better because otherwise the overall toolkit is so much fun. And I wish you could play as Ayane, but the game (and ip) is super dead
>>743339443Audio issues were basically gone on the may 13 build of xenia canary, but the performance is really not very good. I'd recommend modded Sigma 2 over it. I think it's worth just waiting for the decomp on this one.
>>743340375>I'd recommend buying xbox
>>743336365>you graduated from hardcore gamingNo, you haven't
>>743340057I'm guessing 7, since 7 is the one that seems to be set in 4's future. I'm also expecting Yakumo to be playable or something.
>>743340375Oh, I used an edge build. I haven't tried any of the mods yet. Are you referring the the Restoration one?
>>743340571Nice try, Sharma
>>743340792I played tetris too. Sub 1 minute 40L and Rank 101 GM+
>>743341487For Sigma 2 it would be this one:https://www.nexusmods.com/ninjagaidenmastercollection/mods/386And also this one from Black, but also works on Sigma:https://www.nexusmods.com/ninjagaiden2black/mods/100If you're playing Ninja Gaiden 2 Black, then just this one which already includes the second mod above:https://www.nexusmods.com/ninjagaiden2black/mods/30Until the decompilation comes out, to me this is the best way of playing 2 if you don't own an Xbox.
>>743336690
>Mega Larper:God Hand>Poser: Ninja Gaiden>Autist: Bayoentta>Casual: Devil May Cry>No One Cares: Everything else
>>743342124>Mega Chad:Onimusha
>>743342124I beat God Hand on normal and was willing to beat it on hard but I got disappointed that it doesn't have new game plus so I dropped it. I'm not unlocking everything again. Most fun aspect of that game was experimenting with custom movesets.
>>743339021Doesn't go against anything I said and still has gaps in between.
>>743342024thank you anon, I'll download some nude mods while I'm here. >>743342514NG+ adds the God moves to the shop and some costumes. You'll be less shitty your second run, so should be able to get money faster since you should be in higher rank more often. Higher rank means more spawns too, it's definitely worth playing again.
>>743317301Same. I couldn't be bothered after getting half way deep into it I realized I wasn't having fun. NG2 still my favorite MN difficulty
>>743321834>LotF better than DS3Holy shit I hope this is bait
>>743342762>NG2 still my favorite MN difficultylol
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Blessed to like & be good at every controversial NG game.NG II, 3:RE, 4 are all in my top 3 action games, and with the ex-TN guy directing TMNT Ronin it's very likely to become my top 4 when it's out. To answer the thread though I will give it to 3RE for the time being.I will now bless this thread with my Momiji gameplay.
>>743336690source? A mix of achievements and steam/console achievements? Or just made up?
>>743315729she was hot
>>743347149Momiji and Ayane are shit tier. Both 3RE and Sigma.Post Kasumi.
>>743334262>DMC and Bayonetta sell quite well>Somehow it's NG4 kills the whole genreBayo3 controversy aside it generated a lot of buzz and was locked to the Switch while DMC has made good money throughout the franchise. It's simply that other genres make more money than hack-and-slash games. Maybe only Kingdom Hearts and God of War can make tons and tons of money.>>743334707The worst thing isn't that it's shit. It's that it's not going to go anywhere. It's an okay game that's extremely rough around the edges. Maybe we'll see an NG5 but who knows. NG4 seemed like a pipe dream for years.
I started ng1 (sigma I think?) on steam. I usually can handle games on hard difficulty but I keep dying either on the boss of the first level or in the room before the boss. I think Im doing something wrong. Why do enemies have so much hp? They dont want to die it seems.
>>743351850Ninja Gaiden's normal difficulty is like hard difficulty in modern games. Hard in Ninja Gaiden is like the hardest difficulty in modern games. You're not as talented as you thought.
>>743351850Use your launchers (XY, >XY, >Y), off the wall heavy attack and XX>XX string to temporarily shut enemies down. All launchers also have the hold variant where you stay on the groundTake advantage of knockdowns, knockbacks and wallsplats with heavy hitting moves like haze straight slash, fiend sealer and flying swallow depending on how you put them into these hitstates. To execute fiend sealer you want to roll towards the enemy then press Y all while he's downed. HZS can be performed by holding Y briefly or pressing it when your feet is about to touch the ground when you're airborne. When there's essence around doing that move will suck it in and execute a more powerful version of that attack or another one if you absorb 2 yellow orbs or one of red/blue.You can block incoming hits during the recovery period of most of your attacks except HZS and flying swallow as long as you haven't already buffered another hit in the string. To do that just hold block.
>>743317301its not that bad
>>743317301>I don't like NG4 because it filtered meAll the complaints and criticism stem from this single point.
>>743351368Miji is fun in Ligma 2. Better than Ayane and much better than the hag.But yeah 3RE Kasumi is broken fun.
>>743358095>better than the hagNah. I had great fun machinegunning monsters in New York as Rachel. She's the only girl to even match Ryu in terms of feeling powerful with the hammer.
>>743358095The hag is fun because you get to take a little break and play a third-person shooter for a bit.
>>743357906I just hate the new parry systems entirely. If it had the usual NG parry it wouldn't be as garbage.
>>743342124Mega Larper Poser Autist Casual here, can't say I've played everything else.
>>743361670I like the clash parries a lot, I just dislike the perfect block one. Too easy, too big of a reward and too big of a buffer window too. Clash parry perfect timed followup being the only guaranteed delimb in the game is a really cool design decision, but you don't ACTUALLY have to put yourself in harm's way when you can buffer the perfect guard all the time.
>>743314648I agree with your pointI love RE's combatWe all know the campaign is kinda shit NG4 has the best campaign among all 4 and the best bosses even. Doesn't feel quite as visceral and the air combos are lame. Fantastic games all of them
>>743337220>>743350660he's using a combination of lowest difficulty achievements/highest difficulty achievements/steam/console/and retro achievements (some website that makes achievements for old games on emulators) so yeah essentially its a fake a comparison
>>743362447>and the best bosses evenTrue but not by as much as I hoped when they announced Platinum was making it. I wouldn't say the boss roster is great, personally. It's the best because the bar was so low. I'd go as far as saying that bosses would be an easy point of improvement if Platinum got to make a sequel.
>>743362209How do you buffer perfect guards? This is new to me.normally it's like one frame block parries which is ridiculous, when NG2's parry was like 3 or 4 frames.NG isn't the kind of parry slop game where timing need to be this tight. If the parry windows where bigger in general I would enjoy NG4 MNM a lot more..
>>743363084Just tap it mid string. Even if you can't cancel the string into a block, it'll cancel it into perfect guard if the enemy attacks. It's incredibly cheap.The window is different (or at least feels different, didn't actually count the frames) depending on the move, and backlash parries are also easier on average than regular clash parries.There are also weapons/charms that give you full parry frames on every active frame for specific weapons. I believe the drill has that by default, as long as you hold the attack it's a parry frame, but you can also equip a charm that makes that parry hitbox cover 360 around you.
>>743363179wtf. I'll give it a try, thanks
>>743363002>It's the best because the bar was so low.You are retarded. Seere on master ninja difficulty is the best boss ever made in any action game.
>>743362209It was a cool design decision until the retards decided to buff it and make you invulnerable all the way from the moment of clash, so now very few attacks are worth perfect blocking, because everything about perfect blocks applies to fatal flash tenfold. >>743363084Unrelated to perfect block buffering but If any enemy is filtering you then just hit training mode, most of the troublesome ones have gaps in their strings where you can guard a hit or two, release block, and buffer a base form attack while still being in block stun which will result in a clash. Lots of gapclosing and vertical attacks also have a generous clash timing even if you don't really buffer against them. Same goes for bosses. Outside of clash buffering Dual Katanas are the best for clashing due to startup frames and forward movement on its starting hits, other weapons are far riskier.
>>743365268I just strongly disagree and can't even see why anyone would feel this way. It's not a particularly special fight in any way from my experience. It's not bad either, just ok.
>>743365346Yeah I always went back to dual katanas standard X string for clash parries, worked like a charm. That first hit is perfect for clashes.
>>7433146483re is so damm good and i have no nostalgia for ninja gaiden or vanilla3Ng4 feels very braindeadI let my friend play both game and he can easily progress in ng4 by simply mashing buttons but he can't kill a single ninja in ng3re
>>743319857action games wouldn't be what they are today without 2 NG is literally one of the most influential franchises ever made despite its size
>>743331621what shovelware are you playing cause i need some recs if they feel like NG4 lmao
>>743334674game pass
>>743365268Bit of a hyperbole but she's great, true. Properly difficult.
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3 is better, because Lords of Alchemy is immeasurably, insanely, absolutely mindblowingly based as villain group. Based!
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>>743314648Played 3 on PS3 and dropped because the console died, but I was having fun.Pirated 4 and I feel bad it bombed because it was pretty good, just not worth the price.
>>743376505>Pirated 4 and I feel bad it bombed Gypsy
>>743376604Their own fault for charging 70 bucks and having on top of that a "deluxe edition"
>>743376257ryu is so cool bros...
>>743377010It's a stylish action game. It's worth every penny because its replayability is nigh infinite
>>743326879nah on higher difficulties its essential. on a new run every upgrade is insanely expensive and the only way to get nearly enough currency to buy shit is to get that multiplier up to 3.0 and spam steel on bones. I really think they should have nerfed sob score but made the upgrades cheaper to compensate
>QTE shitty game & lets replace the main character because fuck youboth are shit
>>743318604>hopelessly outnumbered we are by ng4zoomersWhy are you acting like NG4 succeeded and brought a whole new set of fans to the series? If anything, the oldtroons still outnumber the nutroons.
>>743377206You are wasting your time, if he doesn't understand that and pirated one of the extremely few actual good games that was released, then it is a lost cause.
Yakumo has 6 weapons. 11 with Bloodraven. The most complex and versatile Platinum character. Only DMC4 and DMC5 Dante rivals him in technicality.Do you hate him just because of his looks?
>>743379926Honestly a huge portion of my enjoyment comes from Chain LinkChad Link:>works between two forms>carries over from one weapon to another, including command inputs when they have follow ups >lets you perform aerial moves on the ground>can be executed after perfect dodges, whereas the perfect dodge follow ups act as Y starters >GT and OT store inputs and allow you to CL afterwards in conjunction with all aforementioned examplesDogshit Offset in other platinum games that I played:>...
>>743382641Red Ryu poster, I kneel.
>>743382641Dodge Offset in Bayonetta serves important function too, it's there to preserve the chain while allowing mobility, lets you get to your main damage dealers while avoiding incoming damage. It's key to Nonstop Infinite Climax since witch time is gone and you don't have a free "here do your full string" moment. I think it's really cool.In every other game it's just a base property of dodging and requires no further execution and it's fluff, I agree. I was shocked when NG4 actually required additional input to its dodge offset, I thought Platinum would never dare to do it the OG way again.
>>743384667Funnily enough I mostly had Bayo in mind in when I typed the DO part.
