Why are gamers like this?
shut up, convenient retard, corpo bootlicker
>>743323417but sony is still selling the playstation?
>can still play all their gamesHoly shit, all 0 of them?
>>743323417Because "you can still play it" lasts exactly until the license server/account system/store download gets memoryholed and then suddenly your $70 purchase becomes a receipt with vibes. Physical isn't perfect but pretending it's just "plastic for landfills" is zoomer rent-everything brainrot.
>>743323417>L-leave the multimillion corporation aloneThats right bitch throat the ceos
>>743323417Am I really a gamer if I can't post my gamer shelf on reddit?
>>743323417They're still selling the empty plastic boxes you retardThey've already said so
>>743326463no worries! You still can buy boxes, just with codes inside.The would look great next to Funko Pop!
>>743323417it's true
>Snoy when they revoke all digital licenses in 3 years
But can we really play all our games?When I go to the PSN website and look under "Purchased Games", there are only 13 games on the list, and I can only filter by PS4 and PS5. Where are my PS3 games? I used to have about 15 digital games there, but Sony is just pretending I never bought them.
>>743323417At least you got paid?
Asking in this thread since it's so shit no one will care if it gets deleted. Where do you guys see the weird route going? Do you think the prophecy is finally broken with it or will it just warp back on track again?
>>743323417>my le landfill>my le environmentahahaha
>>743323417>shitposters when corporations shutdown their servers
You don't care about the environment so stop this performative nonsense
>>743323417I just like owning the media I purchase
>>743323417But the plastic's on my shelf?
>>743323417>supporting corporations killing the used games marketgood goy
>>743327446I do care about the environment though, which is why China, India, Israel, Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philipines, Kenya, Libya, Somalia, and Nigeria should all be nuclear carpet bombarded.
>>743327567>corporations killing the used games marketi remember when that used to refer to gamestop
>>743327487Where's it going when you die?
>>743327486>I just like owning the media I purchaseWho wants to tell him?
>>743326950>oops you're too white to have vidya>oops you said a racism on an affiliated website all your games and account are gone fucko>you talked to a woman who reported you to HR? >gone fucko>you ignored a woman who reported you to HR?>gone fucko
>>743327341It will be broken in a sense, with certain people being broken out of their roles or forced into new ones to correct itself, however the outcome will remain the same. So different people might end up dead/alive than in the normal route.IMO I think you sacrifice Berdly to save someone else, possibly Noelle? However, she'll probably be in some mindbroken state by the end of the weird route if she survives.
>>743327737Tell me what? That's a service game. I wouldn't place value in that because you can't own services.
>>743327730Sold/donated back into the retro game collection circulation.
>>743323417Their identity is attached to their shelves of crap.
What if a pack of elephants tear through your home and stomp on every physical game copy you have???What then, physicucks???
>>743328195Collections can rebuild Zach.
>>743323417>be me in 2006>camp outside for the ps3>sell ps2 cause clearly i wont need it anymore, it'll always play my ps1 and ps2 games>dies as the revision releases and it doesn't support backwards compatibility anymore>60gb prices hike on ebay due to this, buying a used ps2 and the new ps3 was unironically cheaperi am still mad and already hated sony because of this. they've been dogshit for 20 years
>>743328247A phone can emulate PS1 and PS2 now. Who gives a shit?>But a phone won't load my DISC-O-POPS!Nigga you don't even like games, you like collecting plastic.
>>743328397>emulateKEK you don't even like games. You just tinker with DRM until the title screen boots.
>>743323417Contrarian faggot.
>>743328572I'd assume someone emulating just to look at title screens likes games more then anyone buying a ps5, considering it doesnt have any.
>>743328397nigger, it was 2010, just because i can emulate everything now doesn't mean it wasn't infuriating back then, and i enjoyed the convenience of just playing the games i already had.
>>743328692Woah watch what you say about sony, you'll make this poster very angry >>743328397
>>743327341Personally I’m better on the normal route’s ending being intentionally disappointing >susie dying>castle town gets sealed>kris and noelle never reconnect>dess is never ‘found’You name it by the end of the game everyone’s back to the same shitty status quo. The weird route meanwhile offers the chance to see something new at the cost of everything else being worse
>playstation>gamesOff topic.
>>743323417When do video games ever end up in a landfill?They end up on ebay for marked up prices once they're out of print
I see somebody never put dozens of hours to learn a fighting game character to download an update that makes them useless/"nerfed". Imagine tranny flags popping up everywhere they shouldn't be on tranny day or Saint Floyd day. The future is disgusting.
>>743328115Besides>>743323417Even a prolific collector would probably amount to like a month or two worth of regular garbage pickup at the most if they threw everything away, which they don't. This is a brainlet argument.
>>743323417Cause they are poor. Consoles are for poor people.
>>743323417Why do zoomers swear up and down they hate Capitalism and corporations but are always the first to eat up corporate slop?
>>743326950Doesn't change anything for the PS5 platform, try playing disc games on a fresh console with no Internet access
>when they can still play all their gamesTHEN WHERE ARE MY PS3 PSN PURCHASES?>w-well they're on your Ps3MY PS4 SHARES THE EXACT SAME ACCOUNT. GIVE ME MY BACKWARDS COMPAT, YOU CHEAP SHMUCKS
>>743323417Because Sony, and by extension Microsoft and Nintendo, do not operate digital game platforms first and foremost. They sell you a platform with specific hardware, eventually abandoning them in favor of their newer ones. Steam, GOG, and others lol are all generalized platforms that do not target specialized hardware or platforms, meaning a game I purchased back in 2004 can still be played on my PC from 2020, or that a game purchased on my Windows PC can be played on a Linux based system. Sony offers nothing like this and doing so would actually be largely counter productive to their business, considering that remakes/ports make up a considerable chunk of their first party output and the game industry's as a whole, no thanks in part to the big console manufacturers.
>>743323417Goy
people really do be living their life with zero concept of what life will be like in five years
>>743327341Depends what Toby saw in his dream for "an ending for a game that didn't actually exist". Whatever they do has to be within the lines of what the prophecy says, but in a cheeky, monkey's paw sort of interpretation. As for the methods or why she decided to cross (drown) in the lake, I guess she's just really good at breaking games and decided that whatever was over there is more interesting than what's across the tape outside of the police station.
>>743332731R vs K selection theory if you want some clarity on the subject
How are my games filling landfills if I'm keeping my physical games?
>>743323417Will I be able to trade games with my friends though?
>>743326106I purchased Half Life in 1998 and I can play it in 2026 despite it being digital only.I purchase a physical copy of Auto Assault in 2007 and the servers shut down a year later.
>>743323417Once, you were buying a product. Then you were buying an experience. Then it became a digital membership card. I wonder what we're end up buying next?
>>743328195My dad did this when he was pissed at me once
>>743333026it doesn't80% of sex toys end up in landfills but you don't see them banning dildosthat's because sony can't create a digital monopoly and restrict the free flow of information on dildos. sony can't lobby to get physical dildos banned and then rewrite the script of the dildo you already paid for, or deny you access to your dildo for breaching whatever terms of agreement they forced you to sign to have a dildo in the first place.that is why no one gives a shit about 80% of dildos going into landfills or the other 20% going into op's mouth and ass constantly.
>>743333206how the fuck did your dad get access to an elephant
>>743323417what's that retard? speak up so the people in the back can hear your retard shit.
>>743327341The prophecy will remain the same. The only difference is who takes what role.I think what's ultimately going to happen is that the main route will have two back to back endings like the Pacifist route. The first one will be awful. Then you'll load a save, go back, do some meta shit(?) and get another one that's bittersweet. The Weird Route ending will just be awful with no take-backsies.
>>743327737Oh no, the live service game that uses the plastic disc as a license disc no longer works. This means all discs are somehow useless!
>>743323417Gamers were largely replaced by brown masses that consume anything infront of them. Standards have regressed to the mean and game companies are just now catching down to that. Anyone actually discussing this are complete outliers from the mindless melanated hoard that led to this.
>most obvious bait thread of the day>gets replies left and rightIs this site infested with indians or summer fags? I can't tell anymore.
>>743323417The same reason why you're a nigger faggot retard nigger
>>743327486>physical means ownership>>743333618>>743328094>physical means nothing Pick a lane, you retards. You don't actually want to own games, you just have a fetish for this plastic plates with a hole in the middle.
>>743323417people say this and then buy whatever landfillslop social media tells them about
>the same shills that promote digital only games also hate steam
>>743323417>their>games
>>743326106The problem for modern consoles is that's still the case. The disc drive must constantly phone home to keep working.
>>743336349Good job little Timmy! Those are the words in the image.
>>743333128>buy physical half-life>physical half-life keeps working>you get a digital version for free tooSony would never.
>>743326950In 50 years, none of these games will be playable. A dark age.
>>743336421Digital is still working 23 years later.
>>743323417>THINK OF THE TURTLERINOIt was never about muh landfills you fucking blacked bitch
>>743328397You're right, people should have unlimited access without a company being able to take it away, glad you support physical.
>>743323417Consoleplayers are goycattle to begin with. By getting yourself a console, locking yourself out from any other vidya-playing option, you are signing up to become a loyal goycattle for that console brand 4ver for the rest of your life.Think about it, have you ever seen a pc player complaining about shit like this? Even BACK when pc physical copy was still exist, everyone knew that the first and foremost thing to do after you unwrap that shit was to COPY your entire game installation files to your local drive and install it from there because physical discs are extremely fragile back then (you do this thing right /v/?). So preservation has always been a pc culture since the dawn of time. If anything digital is a BLESSING because you can copy your installation copy to another drive and make a copy after copy to preserve your own vidya or files. Console cant do this because they were designed to play vidya and play vidya only
>>743323417>stop using plasticyeah im sure they could make boxes out of something else
>>743323417Can we still lend them to friends and sell them second hand?
>>743337823>Sell 2nd hand game>You get all the money, the people who made the game don't get a dimeI'm glad that they're closing this loophole. Fucking parasite.
>Shekelsoft has not been redeemed in 24 minutes... Please mail foreskin within 24 hours. >Foreskin un-mailed. deleting games.
>>743338665I bought and own that game disc, I can do what I want with itKeep deepthroating the billionaire megacorp's cock
>>743323417My room isn't a landfill! >:(
>>743336475They'll probably be emulatable on PC.
>>743323417>literally missed sony taking away people's shit without recourse.Good grief goyim... Keep everything you own on the cloud, please. I'll be here to laugh at your kind when you own nothing.
>>743323417True that brother. Just download cracked pirated copies of all the games and emulate them. No physicals needed and they can't revoke access to data they don't have access to themselves.The future is in data. Get a fucking server rack and start downloading shit, archiving shit. HDDs are dirt cheap now.
>>743327341im more and more buying into the theory that the weird route will simply loop back to the start of the game.
>>743323417Yeah what retards, why don't they want to pay double the price for every single game only to have Sony then steal those games from them whenever they feel like it?
>>743337239>By getting yourself a console, locking yourself out from any other vidya-playing optionThis doesn't follow at all. I own a million consoles, and I own 5 different PCs. Buying a console does not lock one out of other vidya playing options.
>>743331065Because zoomers AREN'T WHITE. When are you going to figure this shit out, anon? They seem retarded because they actually ARE retarded.
>>743323417shit thread desu
>>743323417For now
>>743336383That's false. Only the initial setup for ps5 requires internet. One of mine hasn't been connected in like 4 years and still plays discs no problem.
>>743323417Your disingenuousness makes me wish you got in an accident and became braindead to the point where you simply drool the rest of your long life. But loved by your family.
>>743341059He's brown, and therefore already brainded in practice.
physical media is basically funko pop for manchilds on /v/>but muh owning games!!!gog. piracy. emulation. so many options that don't take up a gorillion space in your roomand you know what? even if gaben dies and steam gets shut down we'll sue them to make sure we'll be able to download all the games we own. same can't be said for consolekeks
>>743323417True, I can still play the games I own and I won't be buying new consoles or codes in a box that belong in a landfill.
>>743329043onion is gonna save those 2 from drowning come on
>>743323417>Playstation gamers >can still play all their gamesLOL
If the argument against physical games is pollution, shouldn't we start by putting energy consumption limits? There is no reason for a console to run at maximum clock outside of a game nor is there any reason for it to turn on every 2 and a half minutes to check for faggot updates. The power grid's usage visibly spikes every time updates are pushed out, which not only runs up electricity bills, but sits underneath all of the faggots that lobby for the elimination of things like air conditioning.Actually, let's go a step further. If console target is 60fps, using an actual efficient engine instead of Unreal Engine for every game would cut the amount of processing power to run games by roughly 80%, which would more than half the power requirement for all consoles on the planet to operate. Why don't these people hold Tim Sweeny responsible? Both this and the improvement above would dramatically reduce power usage, and both can be rolled out remotely from offices without altering logistics or users.OPs post is the video game equivalent of paper straws. Eat my ass.
>>743323417>all their gamesbut they don’t own them
>>743341505PC is fine being digital, that's kinda its purpose.Consoles being digital is literally just buying a gimped PC with zero options but the one that corporate demands. What's the point?
>>743341505Cute picture, lad!Also, everything that you said is objectively correct!
You can't tell me the name of a single file in your PS5 hard drive, or it's size, or make a copy of it.
>>743323417>Sony PR made this meme
>>743326106When the license is revoked or the store shuts down, you'll be left with a disc that is either1) just a license (512kb of useless data like Doom The Dark Ages) 2)a buggy, glitchy, and imperfect build of a game that needs a (now inaccessible) day 0 patch to be playableGames have ballooned to such ridiculous file sizes that they'd require triple-layer BD-Roms to be stored in their entirety, which Sony and Microsoft don't want to pay for because the current market for physical is so small.
>>743323417If you can't understand why snoy being able to creat a digital monopoly in order to get rid of all competition, jack up prices, refuse to provide refunds AND steal people's purposely purchased content at will is gay you are a dumbest gorilla nigger the internet has yet seen.
>>743341953There's nothing stopping sony from blacklisting a particular game from running in your system, physical or not.It's a black box you have no control over.
>>743341791Just don't beigh a keksole?
>>743327341The Weird Route is the story of how Kris and Noelle break their own reality by creating mass Dark Fountains via the Twisted Sword as they slowly but surely transfigure into the Roaring Knight.
>>743323417How does it feel buying a game, anons?
>>743341447Ohh, well, careful what you wish for, huh?
I bought the PS5 with a disc driveTherefore, the company must continue making discs for said consoleMake the PS6 digital only if you want to phase out physical, but for now the PS5 needs discs
Reminder that as a customer it is your DUTY to have high standards and hold businesses to them. All the bitching about much capitalism is just giving people something else to blame while they create the problems they bitch about .
>>743331312Aren't PS games tied to your PSN account? And can't you play most PS4 games on your PS5?
>>743326106>yeah man im totally going to play this game when it's 20 years old and outdated
>>743342601>He doesn't play 20 year old games
>>743323417>their gamesSony's games on lease*>fill landfill with useless plasticWhy are you throwing your games in the garbage?
normal people:>"hmmm i want to play some 20 year old games today ">google roms megathread>download games and run my emulator/v/irgins:>"oh my hitler my dog ate my disc!!!!! i can't run my games!!!! i bet WTO is behind this"
>>743342775>Why are you throwing your games in the garbage?They're Sony games, what else would he do with them?
>>743342810The crushing majority of people don't know how to use emulators or know what emulators are or know what folders are.Apple ruined the world with their dumb bricks
>>743342601There's no way you aren't a nigger.
>>743342810master race:>hmmm, time to play a game I purchased 28 years ago>double click game in digital library>download and play it
>>743326106believe it or not, zoomers actually care for physical nowadays
>>743327737I'm asking you politely to kys. Thank you.
>>743324105spbp.let's completely ignore the fact this was 100% aimed at neutering 2nd hand resale. they've (nintendo, sega, sony.. hell music labels as well) always, always hated the fact that someone could play a game or buy a CD, get tired of it, then sell it to someone else without getting to take a cut.
>>743326106
>>743343636That's not the only reaspn. They also want to create a digital monopoly. PSN is already absurdly overpriced. Imagine how much worse it's going to get when they don't have to compete with retailers. PSN sales, as bad as they already are, are going to go away entirely.
sonygggers and their orbiters are a blight upon this board, along with all the other retards doing console war bullshit
>>743331062Actual poor people can't afford the latest consoles.
>>743342995>The crushing majority of people don't know how to use emulators or know what emulators are or know what folders are.lollmao even
>playstation>gamers>games>can still play all their games
>>743323417I hate all you bootlicking poojeets
>>743344928Just you wait! My grandkids will definitely want to hook up my PS5 and play some UMMMMMM and HMMMMM directly off the disk I never had stolen from me, burned in a house fire, or suffered disk rot!
>>743323417>WEF hyperenvironmentalist talking pointThis is not the dunk you think it is
>>743323417>Reddit filenamer/gamingcirclejerk raid? It's funny how you guys claim to be leftists yet simp hard for giant corporations
>>743323417What is the size ratio difference of a disc in box vs cartridge in box, dumbfuck?
>>743323417>Can still play all their gamesYou realize as soon as they introduce some kind of digital ID your whole game library will be gone when you make a mean comment to a powerful person on twitter right? And not even that, people lost a lot of movies recently, so yeah its more than just ``plastic``
>>743348187>what is piracy and archiving?
>>743323417>protecting the planetThe plan is to stream games so you don't even have them on your hardware because you won't have any hardware in the future because you'll be a bug in a pod who owns nothing. This is just one more step towards that. If you wanna protect the planet get into the vaccine business, don't spend your time bitching about other people who want to own stuff, because nothing protects the planet more than fewer people being around.
>>743342601YesThough I probably won't be playing today's games in 20 years, as they are all SHIT
Who the fuck is throwing away their games?
>>743348315>archivingErrrm, you better not be talking about private ownership of digital memory, chuddie. That's filling a landfill. Only Alex Karp is allowed to use tech like that.
>>743340242Tell that to tendies and snoy in this board
>>743326950I think you mean the switch eShop, how's the Wii eShop going by the way? Still closed right? Same as Wii u, right
>>743326106>Because "you can still play it" lasts exactly until the license server/account system/store download gets memoryholed and then suddenly your $70 purchase becomes a receipt with vibes.And how is the situation gonna be any different if you own a disk in that case? Do you think having a disk makes you magically bypass sony DRM?
>>743348687This, I would absolutely buy physical copies of the games I bought on Steam. Some I would even buy again for a friend.
>>743348908>I haz disk so th4t must mean I 0wnz gaems!!!they're mentally handicapped and the same people who tried to claim SKG is communist or smth
>>743323417Have Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo started making controllers with hall effect sticks yet? I go through 1 or 2 Xbox controllers in a year. I have a desoldering gun and I can repair them but I'd rather just buy a new one than spend all afternoon one day after work to repair it when I just want to watch TV or play games.
>going full digital>price reminds the same as physical
>>743323417Correct, it is about time we started thinking about filling landfills with something else.
I find it really funny that "the final straw", allegedly, for gaming on a console was a plastic circle going in and out. That was it? That's what was keeping you there? "Man if I can't keep my DRM check on an external circle like why even bother?"I legitimately just don't understand. "Why don't I just get a PC it has this this and this mods piracy gog etc etc." Yeah why don't you? All of those things you deem as a "big benefits" were all outweighed by these shelf frisbees?And this is from somebody who does a sizeable amount of gaming on console. I was just playing Forza Horizon 6 on the XSXSeriesX. Been playing Star Fox everyday. I think there is something to be said for having a dedicated game only machine that effortlessly allows couch play and plays well with TV HDR and dedicated optimization etc.If I'm playing whatever game, and I elect to do it on a console, I am not thinking about how I can flip a game for extra cash or how big of a "dab" it'll be when 25 years from now people maybe can't play it but I can play a shitty day 1 build or whatever but even none of that matters because pirates will save us.>I'm playing a shit version but at least its 100 LEGALGet some help everyone like this its a disability.
>>743334204We‘re obviously talking about actual video games and not online service slop.
>>743323417what games?
>>743349875What do you do if a game is delisted like Spec Ops: The Line on console if you don't have a disc and didn't already purchase it digitally?
>>743323417You have never actually seen what true plastic waste is from japan until you step in a daiso
>>743349573This is the real story.
>>743328223>cities can rebuild!>don't worry about anyone who got lynched by the niggers chimping out, those people weren't anyone in my social circle so they don't matter!
>>743342601Modern games are shit, marketer-kun.
>>743323417>can still play all their games
>>743323417Go to the landfill and count how many physical games you gonna find there. Then divide whole landfill mass by those games' mass. This is fucking stupid beyond any reason.
What were they filling landfills with?The games lmao no games they just bought?Kinda retarded corpo rat, try harder next time.
>>743351293Kek
>>743326106>mfw the internet has websites that have FREE copies of games you aren’t likely to find physical copies of anywhere >I can play them whenever the fuck I want This means I own every game ever made.
>>743323417>landfill argumentgamers put their games into their cupboards and when they are done with collecting, they mostly sell it to another collector/store.
>>743350002Cut your loss and pirate it if you want to play it so badly. >b-but… Crying about it isn’t gonna help you boot the game back up any faster.
>>743323417So, will we get the next Playstation with 20 terabytes, or will they sell harddrives separately (which will more likely end up in a landfill) ?
>>743351947Sony has literally never been consumer friendly when it came to storage devices. Literally not even once. They doubled down on that principle so hard that they even let the Vita crash and burn to preserve it.
>>743323417Corposhitters really cannot meme for worth shitIncredible how true that is to this day >muh environment>muh think of the childrenEvery time, just to hide stupid agendas to profit more on top of stupid goyim
>>743324105kek
>>743327341Noelle ascends to the same level as Gaster, she makes it her Deltarune
>>743352045It’s not about corporate bootlicking, it’s about autonomy. If you can’t play games without Sony’s help, then you aren’t a real gamer and definitely don’t belong on this website.
>>743352185But he has the DISC! On his gamer SHELF! He doesn't need Sonys permission to play the game! He "owns" it!
Gabedrones will never understand after 25 years the fatso is fucking them in the ass using sands as lube.
>>743352947My copy of half life 2 still installs on from Steam on any PC I sign into for the last 22 years.How many times have you had to rebuy the games you already owned stupid tendie?
>>743352947he (his successor) will try
>>743323417Account closed and games stolen for bad speak or inactivity.>>743324286Bitch, we got remakes and backwards compatibility.
>>743323417Hi tard, lawsuit incoming. Pricefixing. Bye
Can't you just burn the rom onto a couple of DVDs or BDs or whatnot?I'm no console gamer, explain the solution for the problem of losing your files. For PC it's simple.
>>743353220There are many examples of Steam games specifically being delisted from purchase because a newer shittier remaster came out. Sure, you can redownload if you already purchased, but the concept that steam doesn't encourage people to rebuy what they already own doesn't really hold up.As for the game you just posted, if someone had a cartridge of mario 64, they could still play it, not sure what your argument is, it's the same shit.
>>743323417No, they can't. At least for a few countries which was using only disks it's over. In eu, if you don't play for 3.5 years, your account destroyed
Do you also buy music CDs and movie blu-rays?I will never understand physicalfags wanting to fill their house with useless clutter.
>Have PS2>Have disc>Have memory card>Entire gaming experience is enclosed and repeatable foreverMeanwhile>Have PS5>Have game disc>Game disc is actually 50% of the games files and the rest needs an internet connection to download>Or just as bad, game disc is version 1.0 of the game which was released by the Devs with known day 1 patches because they no longer adhere to deadlines and push out broken products>Bro just stop owning physical games, put everything into the cloud>Oh, you want to play videogames? Idk bro, we don't really play games anymore we just sell experiences, subscribe to our live service model of gameplay where you turn on story mode in our movie game and just press A to relaxFuck Sony dogshit wank company
>>743326106>receipt with vibesI know an AI post when I see one
>>743350002Edge cases like this suck.But the average gamer isnt playing PS3/360. The ones that are either always had an account and so have the game or are modding their consoles.Im sure there is some people who want to play the put down the controller and win meme game while also not having anything resembling a decent PC and no desire to mod a console but it isnt alot.Everyone else aint got time for dusty ahh uncslop shi fiteen yea ol :skullemoji: it needs a remake.
PCkeks have been making fun of PCgods because supposedly we don't own games-as opposed to them owning a PHYSICAL copy of pieces of code(which can be torrented online anyways)It's funny they finally woke up to the harsh reality of proprietary ecosystems-if they put the lights out you no longer own anything
>>743323417cant sell your game, cant buy used.
I probably throw out more plastic in a week than I've thrown out video games in my life
>>743323417Just reduce the price of digital games by what they save by selling you digital.
>>743323417That landfill is my house
>>743324020Retard, even if you have the disk, they can literally prevent you from playing anyways. Nintendo does this so people can't play early even if they somehow get it from a mom n pop store early.
>>743352185Get the fuck out, you obvious corponiggerHow bad is the pay on running damage control when you're caught
>>743323417Whats the point of "consoles"??? Just pre made PC? You are aware PC's can also use controllers and no longer use disc drives?
>>743326106Yeah it will last for 30 years. For sure you could play and backup them by now? Besides all sony consoles till ps5 are jailbroken so there are no point in worrying about physical junk unless you are a MP addicted zoomoid that dubs to PS Plus every month
>>743327341Why is Deltarune fandom like this?
>>743343720Damn he's right. He should give me all his money
Consoles only existed at the time because they were the only readily available hardware to play games with. Steam in the 2000's wasn't very good and PC gaming was disjointed.Nowadays we have modern steam which is by far the most pro consumer, ownership focused platform out of all gaming companies and there's nothing stopping you from making your own physical PC game library with NFC and the physical disc files that you own in your own personal collection.Sony isn't going to back down from this decision because they don't want your business anyways. If you wanted ownership and to own your game files, you'd use steam with big picture. Nowadays we need to treat consoles like relics, with retro ROMS and files on their own collection microSD's or disc, whatever storage medium can fit the size like a 1tb microSD card.You can still own the physical consoles like the gamecube, SNES, playstation 2 sure, but mod them and play the game files through ODE and ROM files, the disc readers are obsolete in these retro consoles.
>Have to re-buy all your games again each console generation.
>>743323417The entire thing has taught me that we live in the fakest and gayest internet. want to get your youtube account shadowbanned right now? Go to any playstation video that allows comments and ask where the discs are. instant banned. Enjoy never having your comment show up in someone's feed again. If I really own my digital games why does Sony spend so much time and energy trying to censor my comments on them? If digital games were really mine, why can't I save them to something that will exist after the Console stops being supported?
>they would never dare to revoke a lisenceACK
>>743323417MFW thinking about all that motherfuckin money I'm about to save not buyin this shit anymore.
>>743323417You can watch the movie's what you pay for.Oops, never mind.I wonder how much time we have before sony start purging the games too?State of Sony.
even if youre a digital guy, physical media keeps your prices down (or at the very least, provides downward pressure)the only thing stopping companies from charging double is that the used games market exists. digital only, that goes away. old games will never get cheaper and everything will probably get more expensive because what else are you gonna do? digital gives the seller total control
>>743359286>old games>expensivehttps://r-roms.github.io/
>>743359286Do... do you seriously think games get cheaper with time due to reseller market?This is some uranium grade copium right here.
>>743356727Which corporation’s boot am I licking if my response is always “quit crying, start pirating”? Lmao
>>743328690Do you think Dexter's mom is related to Master Shake? They both have the yellow gloves. Like maybe one day Dexter's experiments goes wrong and the family mutates into the Aqua Teens
>>743348687>>743350104I'm gonna play SoP and NG4 in 20 years no doubt
>>743357024Do you? You can play digital PSP games on vita but not physical ones
>>743342601Yes, I still play GameCube games all the time.
>>743360605I thought they closed the store down for that whole thing. Sony literally released later versions of the PSP without a UMD slot because of how bad of an idea it turned out to be kek. Don't get me wrong, the UMDs were pretty based strictly in terms of novelty. But everything about them was strictly inferior to the digital games.
How much money did rapeape accept from the corpo shills to allow all of this fake engagement from indian accounts?
>>743360760I very much agreeMy point was that rebuying games isn't ties to physical or digital
>>743327737This isn’t a new phenomenon to not be able to play a game because servers were shut down, PSU, EverQuest Online Adventure and FFXI on ps2 all had their support cut because not enough people were playing it. Servers cost money to operate. There have been plenty of MMOs to have their servers cut in the past. What makes The Crew (out of all games) different in that regard? If you’re such a fan of (((The Crew))), why not simply play its latest entry. Stop Killing Games was financed by an Arabian prince who is obsessed with video games. The Crew is just a placeholder, a scapegoat, diversion and example for discontinued games when in reality it’s some faggy (probably Nintendo) game this sandnigger is obsessed with and wants functional again. If SKG used Nintendo as an example, it would have been stamped out 2 years ago.
>>743323417>no longer a physical product, its far less cost>prices go UPShouldnt they go down since they no longer have to factor physical shipping and manufacturing/distribution? What the fuck.
>>743328397You're a disgusting sonygro
>>743361172I mean, they're still gonna charge whatever they think they can get away with. Games on Steam are still sold at full MSRP even without physical copies. No reason for Sony not to do the same, especially if there's literally no other way for people to play it.
>>7433608434chan sucks so fucking much now and I was saying that back in 2019
>>743324286>remakes*if you give sony money for cloud streaming>backwards compatibility*if you give sony money for cloud streaming>>743349573pretty sure it will cost more, actually
>>743331095You literally can, it just copies the game from the disc first without downloading any updates
>>743361172I always thought this back in 2009 when I got a PSPgo. You’d end up paying more for games on the go and not every game was on the PlayStation Store so your options were limited. They usually had the best games though. My friends and I liked Socom 3
>>743323417industry shill post
>>743323417>fill landfills with useless plasticYou're right, I should do the responsible thing and pirate instead.
but they are still selling plastic boxes
>>743362056Yes, but are they OFFICIAL plastic boxes with OFFICIALLY stamped OFFICIAL artwork so that the graders 25 years from now can take a look at it and verify the authenticity of my OFFICIAL game box + game? OFFICIALLY?I didn't think so.
>>743342601that's right
>>743342601I know this is easy bait, but imagine trying to pull this for other media.Like, saying no one will ever want to watch a movie made before the year 2005.Hell, it's even worse for books, even if you give it double the interval. Imagine trying to claim that no book written prior to 1980 has any value.
>>743361172secondhand copies were competing with digital sales. By eliminating competition from the secondhand market, they can charge higher prices without being undercut
>>743323417it's a slippery slope. people like you won't be satisfied until there's no reason for anyone to go outside. you're WALL-E maxxing.
You people are retarded. You think it's because of a dystopian they are going to take your game away at any time for the funnies.No the 3 reasons are as follows1. When they eventually sell the next PlayStation they can resell you the Same games as they no longer need to pretend to have backwards compatibility and it prevents you from buying a cheap system and 2nd hand copy years later when they shut down the store2. Dynamic pricing is happening at the same time, so they can now at a whim upcharge you.3. And most important. No more second hand copies, you will pay Sony directly at all times for whatever price they deem. No more going to GameStop and picking up cheap video games that came out a year or two prior.It's really shitty but theirs no need to go full retard and pretend it's a conspiracy to spite the white man you fucking idiot
>>743333128When will you disingenuous retards understand that the issue was never about physical vs. digital?It was all about how raped and cucked console players are. Physical was their last bastion of freedom and choice, their only way to escape Sony's digital monopoly, their only way to play delisted games, their only way to resell/buy used, their only way to get a decent refund policy. Without that, they are just Sony's raped fucktoy.There is a lot of issues with ownership in a closed system, but physical discs with the full game on the disc is one of the easiest ways to bypass most of them. >>743336383False>>743341953>>743348908Even on PS5, vast overwhelming majority of games are fully on the disc, playable offline, and the game is fully playable without major bugs/glitches from start to finish. And that is absolute worst case scenario when PS5 is totally offline with no updates pre-installed locally. Just fucking kys misinformation shills
>>743362310>imagine trying to pull this for other mediaApparently most gamers are fucking retards. Sometimes I wonder if the gamers are dead articles had a point with the "wailing hyperconsumer" thing.
>>743362310More than one executive has said that shit in recent times and no one raked them over coals for it. It's sad.
>>743362756Most gamers are stupid. Games are just a toy to most people, "are games art?" is a completely retarded argument because the majority of players just hop on for it and complain about being bored before doom scrolling.It shouldn't be this way, but it is. People that care about gaming won't buy a ps6 but most people will instead buy one just to flex on social media and to friends before treating it like an oversize paperweight
>>743362840That's why this whole thing hardly fucking matters. Who the hell cares what console gamers think? 99% of the threads on /v/ that are about console gaming are literal ragebait.
>>743323417It's called keeping the plastic, on your shelf, until you die and it's your family's fault for filling the landfill.
>>743362717>And that is absolute worst case scenario when PS5 is totally offline with no updates pre-installed locally.There is no such thing as a totally offline PS5 snoyboy
>>743362310That's because rendering technology got better over the years, but we've hit a plateau somewhere in the Wii era where graphics are considered good enough forever. With movies, we hit that point once color cameras came out. Most games I play nowadays came out from around 2015 to 2020. Whenever a new game comes out and its a UE asset flip with a bunch of meme tech like raytracing, I just have to think "Why bother? It doesn't even look as good as Crysis from 2007"
>>743362840>"are games art?" is a completely retarded argument because the majority of players just hop on for it and complain about being bored before doom scrolling.How is this different from getting bored of a movie?
>>743363039Movies aren't art
>>743362941I don't care if someone doesn't like video games, like I don't give a shit about books call me a retard if you want but I just don't. Or tv or movies or cars games or tabletop or whatever desuI like RPGs and strategy games. Always hadI feel like the issue is every male on the planet feels like they need to be into video games like it's just part of the male experience now when they just aren't so they consume popular bullshit than come online to say retarded things for a week or two before moving on not touching their console until next popular thing comes out.I wish the grifters would just fuck off.
>>743323417Microsoft has already tried perma banning account.Twice in fact.A Brazilian guy and a Norwegian guy got their accounts hacked, and Microsoft’s response was “lol just rebuy all the games again” and permalocking their accounts.Thankfully the Brazilian guy lives in Brazil and that country has common sense consumer protection, shit that will 100% be lobbied against in the US. And Norway is usually cool with helping customers too, so hopefully they kick Microsoft’s ass too.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CCq9DfCOwjU
>>743363069nothing is art
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>>743323417lets just ignore how often PSN gets hacked or goes down am i rite boys4 the payers
>>743327341I think it would be more interesting if it wasn't broken. For one thing, it raises interesting questions about how it proceeds with Kris' absence - like who makes the Flower Kingdom Dark World and why to fulfill the Flower Man part of the prophecy. I also think it would be interesting for Noelle to be pushed even further by knowing that even the lake didn't take her off the path set out for her, but that would also require her to know about her place in the prophecy in the first place.
>>743323417How many clothes your gf have?
>>743323417You can buy Gran Turismo 7 on PS5 for $25. You can put 200 hours into it. You can then decide you're done with it and sell it for $22. You got 200 hours of entertainment for $3 because you owned it.
Why does it upset you so much that some people want physical releases, that’s very suspicious
>>743354596>There are many examples of Steam games specifically being delisted from purchase because a newer shittier remaster came out. Sure, you can redownload if you already purchased, but the concept that steam doesn't encourage people to rebuy what they already own doesn't really hold up.But you literally just said you can redownload the game you purchased? How does that not hold up? That's nothing like buying the original Super Mario 64 across 4 console generations.
>>743323417>muh landfillIt's okay, Ziony will make up for it by collaborating with BlackRock to put a data center next to your house.
>plastic bad>5000 data centers drinking up all the water in the world goodfuck off jew
>>743323417Can I still resell my games when it's digital?Can I still let my friends borrow my games when it's digital?Can I still get buy from other retailers for cheaper discounts than the PSN store when it's all digital?The answer is Nope. Bonus: Think about what happened to 500+ movies Sony removed from their store and the people who lost all rights to watch the movies even tho they "bought" it.
>>743360482Maybe Dexter is related to the scientist that created them.
>>743354596How is that different from physical stores which pull games from shelves all the time? Can you buy a new copy of super Mario 64 for the N64? How about GTA IV for Xbox 360?
>>743323417Losing access to your games is only a problem for consolefags who don't have control over the machine they purchased. Otherwise they'd be able to just clone the downloaded game so they don't lose it. That's the real problem, not physical vs digital, but using a closed down system. Digital is no problem at all (and is superior to physical) on a system where you actually have control
>>743323417>playstation>games
>>743369331Data centers for data storage barely use any resources.
>>743324286astro bot and demon's souls demake
>>743371573Artificial scarcity is all the plastic discopop owners understand. They live in a world of cheap plastic, pokemon cards, and stuffed animals. Expecting them to understand digital sovereignty is too big of an ask.
Climate change is not real. Not as they sell it to us.Corpos will push for 5 minute showers or recycling while companies like nestle own and taint 20% of the world's drinkable water supply.
>Gamers when you pay $70 for a 6 year old game cause you have no choice
>>743323417>digital niggers when a new piece of downloadable content comes out
>>743323417Logic so dumb this has to be somebody with sub 60 IQ
>>743376201>Shit I hope no one was watching
>>743375387Exactly. Any "climate change" is largely driven by powerful corporations and non-Western countries. No amount of "you vill own nothing" policy for individuals is going to offset the amount of carbon emissions coming from the Middle East, India, China, and Russia.
>>743371418You cant buy a new copy but there are thousands of old copies.But Mario 64 is a complete game, also. Modern games are updated for years adlfter they go to print.Yes to GTA IV. Digitally, ironically.https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/store/grand-theft-auto-iv/brq2sczctxf2
>>743323417Why is OP like this?
>>743381226Mario 64 is definitely not a complete game. It is terribly unfinished.
this faux outrage is so fucking retardedvalve sells digital games for like 20 yearsgamers are OK with digital games
>>743323417did the retard making this image know sony is still producing code in boxes for retail, thus making MORE useless plastic?
>>743382134it's different for consoles. They're losing more and more of their advantages and appeal
>>743382258If all people get are boxes with codes, I guarantee the physical purchases will drop and result in less junk.
>>743324105I can't wait for PlayStation to ditch physical hardware entirely, attempt to open a PC storefront, and then die with a whimper because Steam exists
>>743323417You know a side is out of arguments when they have to resort to muh environment
>>743368531Why would you have to buy mario 64 again, you already have it on the cartridge. You don't NEED to use a newer system to play it, what stupid argument are you trying to make?
>>743382890And on top of that, 99% of the time if you want a newer version of a game physically, all you have to do is>Sell old version>Buy new version>Lose no money or very little money in the process>Can still sell the new version later to get back all the money entirely
>>743323417>Sony: You need to get rid of physical games because of ocean!>Does that mean you will make games cheaper to sell since there is no more expensive physical material?>Sony: Good joke, Goyem.
>>743323417>fill landfills with useless plasticwas the concept of second hand games alien to the zoomer that wrote this or do modern snoyniggers genuinely throw out their old games?
>>743383032Discs are a rounding error in the games final price. Would you really care if the game was $69.82 instead of $69.99?Disc's are dead because they're slow as shit and ruin the airflow of a console. Let them die.
>>743376201>japanese humor>japanese humor, cat
>>743382325They haven't had any advantages since 7th gen.
>>743323417So everybody throws away there game discs everyday and not soda cans, sporks, straws, plates, cups, toys, bottles
>>743356805ftfy
IWillNotLetSonyCreateMonopolyConsciously.
>>743359837in part, yes.
>>743324105
>>743323417>he thinks the games just get thrown away after finishing
>>743323417It's amazing reading through this thread and seeing that the average gamer really has no concept of basic economic principles. Learn what a price floor is you retarded niggers. The existence of a used game market via physical puts a pricing floor on games, Sony and any other publisher has less incentive to keep an older game at $60 when ebay and whatever else is flooded with $18 used copies. They have to compete at some level, very few people are interested in paying 400% for no reasonWhen the physical market is gone, so is the used market. Sony will own 100% of all copies and their pricing. You want that 8 year old game? $69.99 just like the day it launched because you have zero option.
>>743323417OP thank you for throwing the sloppiest, grimiest, and smelliest bait out for us. This topic needs to stay in the zeitgeist for as long as humanly possible. I have shamed my Snoy friends, and you need to as well, if you tell them to just buy preowned PS4 games, they will fucking do it. This goes across the board too, Microsoft unironically has murdered John Carmack’s legacy and called it bloat, because of their dogshit management structure, along with god knows how many devs responsible for actually making games despite apparently being consistently non-consensually erotically asphyxiated.
>>743353560How do you play old games without disc reader?
>>743323417They're entitled bunch
>>743390739This is the correct take but half the posts on the topic are paid shills.
>>743323417NOOOO I ONLY WANT TO BUY GAMES THAT CAN BE STOLEN FROM ME AT A MOMENT'S NOTICE DON'T LET ME ACTUALLY OWN ANYTHING IT'S TOO SCARY
>>743327880Who the hell says fucko?
>>743323417>insulting your customer basesure worked wonders for concord and marathon
I just like collecting these special edition copies of games. They stay sealed. Actually playing the games happens on PC.
>>743323417>uhm acktually pollution is the consumer's faultkys neolib
