https://archive.is/gdGxg>Speaking in a new interview with Reece 'Kiwi Talkz' Reilly on YouTube (below), former Rockstar Games producer John Ricchio – who worked at the company between 2003 and 2014, and is credited on GTA 5, Red Dead Redemption, and Max Payne 3 – discusses the GTA developer's approach to PC ports. >He notes that, although it's "less fashionable" in the games industry now than it once was, it causes many "problems" to start development on PC and then move to consoles afterward. "You're much better off starting with the constraints," he adds, because "shrinking is a lot harder than extending.">Ricchio explains that it's also often about prioritizing the devs' efforts. When it came to Red Dead Redemption, for example, Ricchio says "we actually got a PC build running very early" to see how long it'd take – something that might come as a surprise given that the game's eventual PC port arrived a whopping 14 years after its initial console release. >"It's not even that we don't care about PC. It was just like, is it worth spending time getting a PC port going versus working on GTA 5?">According to Ricchio, it's "always those conversations" that drive the PC plan at Rockstar – the studio isn't "anti any platform." Regardless of the platform, it's about whether it's "worth spending the time and effort to get something running.">In the past, there have been "a lot of cases" of "legitimate hardware limitations" – something Ricchio admits is less of an issue now that consoles like the PS5 and Xbox Series X are "definitely closer" in power. But, the point remains – "if you're working on that, you're not working on something else usually. Are you spending money on that? You're not spending money on something else.">Ultimately, then, Ricchio says, there either "has to be enough of a business reason to do some of those ports," or the port has to be "super easy to do," which it "rarely" is because "there's always something that you gotta do."
They want to double dip like they always do. There are crazy people out there that are buying the same game twice or more
ROCK STAR HAS TO BE ANTI PC OR ME P[LAYING IT ON PC IS NOT STICKING IT TO THEM I WANT THEM TO SUFFER WHEN I PLAY THEIR GAMES ON PC FUCK ROCKSTAR AND FUCK THIS DEV FOR RUINING EVERYTHING
I don't care about Rockstar games either.
i can wait for this shit to release and never have to hear about it again
I only read three words but this guy sounds like a fag who just doesn't want to work.
yes i'm sure he's telling the truth, which is why every other company is releasing PC versions the same day as consoles.
it's fine that it takes an extra year for them to port itit's not fine that they then still try to sell it for full price. At that point it's an old game with nothing added except a few new graphics options. It should be like $40 when it releases on pc
>>743323529It would be simply too embarassing for consolefags
>>743323529>"You're much better off starting with the constraints," he adds, because "shrinking is a lot harder than extending."Actual genius piece of PR right here, I'm really impressed
>Release the console 1.0 version>a year later, release the enhanced edition on PC and Pro-exclusive patches>2 years later, release the game on PS6/Xbox720/Ouya2>rake in billions of sales>rake in billions of shark card salesIt really is that easy
>>743324310High hopes, but you know this shit will make spam for 7 months to a year.
>>743323529>they know that pc players will buy it on multiple platforms.
Heh, good for him.
>>743324564>you'll get the gimped consolefag version on PC tooHow is that genius PR?
>>743323529Little do they know it'll come to PC in the first week.
>>743323529They've already said in the past they hate pc and it took them literally years for the gta games they sold on steam to be playable after selling them for years
>>743324194It will be the newest GTA game for the next 20 years anon, you'll be hearing about it a lot more after it releases.
Super fascinating, duper even.https://4chan.org/advertise
>>743323529No disc, no buy
>>743323529Who cares I won't be playing a cunty rant about Trump being bad
>>743323529I'm surprised more devs don't delay pc ports. There's no downside and you're guaranteed to get at least some double dippers.
>>743324730Developing for PC means you are gimping your game since most are poorfags
>>743325280xD
here's hoping GTA6 gets revealed to be a turd so it suffers the same fate all late to PC ports get.
>>743325462legit motion sickness just watching that
>investors are salivating at preorder numbers>$ttwo already slipping, optimism completely gone>they are STILL working on the gamelmoa what if they have to delay again that would be too funny
>>743325724Too fast?
>>743323529A whole lot of words to avoid saying that Sony paid them off
>>743325462What was the point you're trying to make
>>743325976The point that's fucking you in the ass, UNF UNF UNf, you little goywhore
>>743325280If you choose your games based on popularity you are spiritually brown
>>743325280Impressive. How's that play? ...Jamal? Hello?
>>743325784Yeah the human eye can only see 12 FPS, so when I see something at 15 FPS it gives me a vertigo like feeling
>>743323529The actual reason is they want double dippers and they're afraid of piracy.
>>743326501>they're afraid of piracy.I can't imagine why.
This seems extremely retarded in 2026 when PC is the second biggest platform that this could release on
>>743326742They shouldn't be since the cattle will line up to buy it anyway, they don't know how to pirate.
>>743323529all that bullshit instead of just saying "they want to double dip for the third time" lmao
>>743324194lmao there will be consistent threads about this game for the next decade and it will get even worse when the online mode is revealed.
>>743326916And that pisses /v/ off so much. I love it.
>>743327008Containment is a very good thing to be honest. There's been a noticeable uptick in quality for actual vidya threads on the board since this shit took over the public consciousness here. You get the slopeaters and shitposters all fucked off in one thread, it's amazing
>>743323529Blah blahblah. It's because they're killing physical, wants to double dip, charge $100 but you don't own shit anymore. It's greed. I shan't "buy" their games anymore they can get fucked
>>743327103>ur mad im a brainless tech illiterate consoomertripfags are all trannies
>>743328986Let brownie boco vent his delusions, it's either that or shooting up a liquor store.
>>743323529Cyberpunk was developed for PC first and we saw how well the console ports turned out.
>>743328986Oh, not me. I hate PC in general. But for whatever reason the thought of people spending money on games pisses /v/ off so much, and I find that hilarious.
>>743323794fpbpThis is pretty standard for them and unless it backfires they will continue to do it.
>>743323794/thread
>>743327549>Double dip It's all about the triple dip.>Goy buys on PS5>Rockstar gets PC version ready with extended graphics options and customization>Goy buys on PC>Rockstar uses the PC version to get the PS6 version ready for the launch of the console as a flagship title>Goy buys the PS6 and GTA VI on release dateit's literally that simple.
>>743323794Thisbut instead of double dipping it will be quadruple dipping because Online will be sold seperately
>>743326392Better than counter strike>>743326275Missing the point award
>>743330294There you are Jamal, for a second (or rather an hour) I thought you were just like your dad.>Better than counter strikeThat doesn't tell me anything. How's the game, dude?
>>743323529>we actually got a PC build running very early" to see how long it'd take – something that might come as a surprise given that the game's eventual PC port arrived a whopping 14 years after its initial console release.glad I pirated it, fucking faggots
>>743323529It's because PC players aren't as much as cash cows as consolefags
>>743324432yep and how have those pc ports been turning out?
>>743330647pc player money is in fiveMconsole gtao is goyslop squared
>>743330000Checked
...isn't this *not* how it works? Isn't the point of x86 and ARM easy porting?
>>743331410Gamers have too many PC variations to account for all of them.
>>743323529I dont get why one of the richest devs on earth is also the only AAA dev who cannot manage a PC port simultaneous with console.
>>743330000What are the chances they charge a monthly sub for GTA6 online?
>>743323529They're saying this now because they are afraid that a viable PS5 console will come out before they port the game.Hell, the way it's going, it's possible that it will be there day one.
>>743331607100%no fucking shot they won't
>>743331601Because then they can't get double dippers a year later
>>743331712* a viable PS5 emulatorOr whatever, my point is normies are more aware of emulation nowadays than ever and it might genuinely cut into their profits if they get rugpulled from double-dipping with this delayed launch by a good and popular emu.
>>743323529>spend 2 billion to make a game>BUT IS IT WORTH IT TO REACH A WIDER AUDIENCE?fuck off with that
>>743331848Also expect for Online to have the same price as GTA VI
I'm not even pirating this garbage, I don't care
>>743332081literally meI don't even care to talk about the game at all
>>743331983>wider audienceDo you know what a lowest common denominator is? Everyone interested in a GTA game already has a console, because it's the normie/tourist way to engage with the medium.You buy consoles because you're a ball and gun consumer. GTA is the Holy Grail of the ball and gun crowd.
>>743331712>ps5 emulation is almost possible>current pc is almost outdated, and lots of old previous pc parts are on their last limbsunless I find myself a lady with a ps5 (unlikely), i don't think im playing GTA 6 anytime soon
>>743330647Almost a million is still pretty fucking huge?
>>743323529this is the most braindead PR take ive ever read in my lifeit genuinely sounds so fucking retarded its crazy>"It's not even that we don't care about PC. It was just like, is it worth spending time getting a PC port going versus working on GTA 5?"by this logic PC port is not worth the money, and if you do a release of RDR 14 years later, most people have already played either via console or emulator. but then they go and release a fucking Android and iOS version RDRso this bullshit explanation is only for actual low iq retards and as anon said >>743323794the only genuine is reason is double dipping and maybe some tiny amount of money saved due to not needing to work on fixing/updating game on consoles and PC simultaneously at launch
>>743332401Nothing under a million matters to devs these days.
I don't expect things to be much different from the rdr2 release. First it comes out for consoles then about a year later for pc.
>hey you know that game we designed on pc first and then ported to consoles?>well we cant release it on pc until 2 years later when we release the double dip for next gen consoles
>>743325280>de_cbble and cs_office>popularI fucking wish that image was still true, now all the popular maps in cs2 are just variation of mirage and dust 2. Yes cache is just a differently themed mirage you losers.
>>743323529>develops on PC, using predominantly Windows-based software from early 2000s>game is running on cross platform game enginesure thing
>>743323529eh, idgaf a PC release. I bet it'll be exclusive to THEIR launcher, then epic and nearly 2 years later it'll release on steam at full MSRP
>>743323529>wah wahh it's too hard to change the deployment target from a dropdown in visual studio from xbox to pcno one believes these clowns anymore
>>743331607>>743331848>>743332008You guys are fucking retarded kek.
>>743337187>t: bootlickerImagine being so fucking naive and retarded that you unironically think they won't do it.They 100% will do this shit and you will pay for it
>>743337676Screencap this post pussyThey will have Online at full price $80 and a $20 subscription to play the game on Online and you will consoom like the good little cattle you are
>>743331165>fiveM>moneylmao
>>743323529GTA on PC always looks next gen, I don't mind a little waitalso their games are janky af on PC which was a vibe killer especially for RDR2
>>743323529They are just struggling.>no new console by $ony.>no new console by micro$oft.>nintendo doesn't care about their games.Thus they are seeing issues and constraints.>most got only xbox series S and pay the monthly plan to play the game thus won't buy gta 6.>ps5 is slowly getting sales but not enough.>xbox series X has low sales overall.>can't get license for switch 2 release after breaking previous contract of chinatown wars that was supposed to be only for nintendo DS (they fucked up releasing chinatown wars on psp and mobile).>issues are slow xbox series S which was against their planned series X release, low sales of series X and ps5 thus will bankrupt them releasing it on those consoles, despite having a better performance then xbox series S and ps5 they can't get license to sell on switch 2 so don't see a reason to release the game due to low sales and low users and xbox series S users won't buy the game at all.The delay is on purpose and are just waiting for next console but sadly none of them is wanting to release a new one and the only ones with users in one side won't make them money and in the other they can't sell but won't release on PC because "we don't want people modding our games adding sexy girls and removing lgbt elements is offensive" and the other argument "but pirates will crack our game" so they fucked themselves delaying a game finished since 2024.
>"It's not even that we don't care about PC. It was just like, is it worth spending time getting a PC port going versus working on GTA 5?"Which is what you would do if you didn't care about PC, retard. Jarvis sell his spleen on the black market.
I hate how many browns and kids are going to be spamming shit about this normalfag slop game for a long time.
>>743331607We already know its there as the pre-orders have a subscription to GTA+ that renews every month.
>>743325280>FPS on PS4>FPS stands for FRAME PER SECOND (the actual frame count!) LMAO
tldr; sony bribed them
>>743331054Good for years, anon. Consoles and PC haven’t been operating on meaningfully different hardware for more than a decade. If it runs like shit on PC, it probably runs like shit on console too.
>>743336087Wait, is Ginny actually winning?
>>743323529In other words, consoles are still saddling vidya with its limitations.
>>743323794This. They know their paypig audience well.
>>743338458That game is 60fps on ps4
>>743339162>try to sell to PC : few users have high end machines thus limited sales.>try to sell on xbox series X and ps5 : few users overall thus not worth releasing on those consoles.>less people have good internet connection to download the whole game without over paying monthly internet service.>less people are willing to buy upgrade hdd of 1 terabyte just yo get one game that will almost fill the hdd.Is not console are limiting the game, more like no one sane will buy it after putting how much hdd needed when was put on preorder on digital stores.
>>743323794People who buy crimeslop are literal cattle who fall for it again award every single time. Stop expecting more of them, their parents sure don't.
>>743339162If this wasn't the case you'd be forced to have a 40 series card and up to play modern vidya. Consoles is the reason you can still get value out of 20 and 30 series cards these days.
>>743325280PCjeets seething lmao
