FPS games used to be GOOD.
>>743333258*quicksave**quickload**quicksave**quickload**quicksave**quickload**quicksave**quickload**quicksave**quickload*
>>743333258There's 0 good games on the left. Right is mogging hard
>>743333337Me when I open up Deus Ex
Black and White thinking, even ironically, is for retards.Both can be good or bad.
>>743333258no one tell this guy where COD got it's start
> Anon, this is the 7th time you've posted your 'Fake FPS Slop' thread to /v/
PC faggots are seriously the most obnoxious dipshits ever, so glad you cocksuckers will be extinct very soon
Both are fine. Why is it hard for you faggots to like different games instead of being so insular all the time?
Boomers are pathetic. You're telling me you can't slide cancel shimmy wall jump strafe hop into a room while ADSing? Time to retire, gramps.
>games on the left: dull ultra-simplistic garbage>games on the right: some of the most beloved games of all timeHm.....what the fuck is metroid prime even doing there? Fucking Moviebob-level retard
>>743333258>he doesn't know
>>743333430Where?
>>743333258name 5 good singleplayer fps games
>>743333258i have "unreal was seriously part of the good fps games" fatigue
bro they're just different games designed for different user interfaces.console games need low ttks because a victim needs 3-5 business days to turn around and respond to their attacker using that little thumb stick, versus a PC player who can just move their mouse faster.its also ironic this meme bitches about sprint mechanics and aim down sights, and then below it you have fucking halo 2 where the pistol's scope (effectively ADS) was removed for balancing.frankly this meme is quality bait, 6/10
>>743333258>Prime on right>Not a single line of text is pertinent for itWhat retard made this?
>>743333985I can't. This thread has me assessing if FPS has ever been good or if it just has a couple of lucky breaks.
>>743333985DaikatanaHunt Down the FreemanSeed of the DeadRageGoldeneye 64
>>743334084Singleplayer Unreal sucked but UT is good
>>7433334572 more weeks
>>743333258This proves shotguns make or break FPS.
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>>743333337>he doesnt pistol start quake and doompusssyy
LOL!
>WAHHHHH WHY DON'T EVERY SINGLE SHOOTER PLAY THE EXACT SAMEwhy are you like this?
>>743340482That's what CoDcattle say though, remember when empulse came out and they complained about no ADS?
>>743339476not only does quake not do shotgun starts normally but the manual actively tells you to save often
>>743342065So you are saying you are no different to them
>>743342105>quake not do shotgun starts
>>743342324were we not talking about quake-quake here, quake 1, the one that saves your inventory and weapons on each level change even if you die? not>championswhich is a bastardization of Q3A's machine gun spawn?
>>743342436>Q3A's machine gun spawn?Changed to loadouts during QL tho
>>743342591are you being pedantic just for replies
>>743334084Not only does he not play the game even though the server is there and you can just join, but he also says fake movement is bad while including UT, which has that fucking double tapping bullshit
>>743342784Unreal is the sloppiest of the bunch but still I included in the left because the guns are cool
>>743333258Ultrakill is all of the things on the left, and none of the things on the right though.
>>743342105I specifically remember shotgun starting every quake level including expansion packs because i was so used to playing custom doom wads with pistol start in mind. I asked chatgpt and said each quake level has enough weapons in each map to make shotgun start viable but its only possible through a sourceport. So I must have done that, I dont remember it being that insanely hard. Plus if you play community projects every level is designed with shotgun start. Go play arcane dimensions or brutalist project
>>743333258counter strike is a good fps
>>743342696no, you are pedriatic for baiting (You)s
>>743333381TSMT!!! ultrakill and battlefield are the best FPS game ever made(I'm trans btw if that matters)
why is low ttk listed as a negative for nu shooters when boomer shooters were all about one shotting people with railguns and spinfuzors?
>>743347682>one shotting people with railgunsqc railgun does 80 dmg(used to be 90). medium champions spawn with 125 health and 25 armour so 150 it takes 2 rails to kill and if has full health and full armour(and not overstacked) that is 100+100=200 and requires 3 railsquake is not low TTK
>>743333985Red Faction
>>743347682Quake isn't low TTK unless you play bad kek. Get armor brother.
>>743347682Low TTK refers to default weaponry with no assists or techniques on how quickly you can kill someone at range or while actively trying to avoid death. In Quake 3 you actually have to be caught in bad positioning or in an ambush and the enemy has to either>have insane aim and be at medium range (Lighting gun)>combo you with prefired projectiles which have LOUD and very obvious sound cues (Grenade Launcher, Rocket Launcher)>hit you multiple times with arguably long reload times (Railgun)>be in meleeTo kill you from full 100 health. It can feel like it happens in a split second but it's comparatively slower than say, getting headshot by an M4 in CoD deathmatch. You can also further mitigate and delay how quickly you die by>shooting back and killing them lmao>picking up and having armor, which gives 66% reduction in damage per point of armor deducted in Q3A, up to 200 armor with decay back to 100 armor>picking up health bonuses and megaspheres, which increase your health up to 200 with slow decay back into 100 to prevent camping after getting a good armor/health stackOntop of having natural health pickups that heal you up to 100 health by 25 chunks, which you can pickup mid combat.
>>743333483Because the console FPS has cannibalized PC FPS. Too many FPS are now designed around using a single analog stick at a time while LARPing as if you were playing with dual analog with the help of aim and move assist that plays at least 33% of the game for you by acting as a third brain hemisphere and abusing your brain's own predictive internal narrative systems to give you a sense of "I did that".
>>743333337Dude I love Serious Sam too.
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>>743333258the fact that you are even using the term TTK exposes you as a LARPer who was probably born after the year 2000 and thus does not hold an opinion worth usingi do like the implication that DOOM has high TTK, since a LARPer like you does not understand that half the weapons in the game can kill half the cast of enemies in a single shot
>>743340257MARANAX THIS, ASSHOLE
>>743357574>probably born after the year 2000 yes>i do like the implication that DOOM has high TTKstill higher than CoDSlop
>>743344097Was going to say this.
QC is a hero shooter like Overwatch.Ultrakill is a proper FPS like Doom, Quake, etc>b-but butplug!I don't care about some optional mod.
>>743358879>QC is a hero shooter like Overwatch.>Ultrakill is a proper FPS like Doom, Quake, etc
>>743333985RageCrysis seriesFar Cry 3,4,5Wolfenstein TNO + TNCDoom 2016Metro seriesSerious Sam seriesHalf-Life seriesBlack Mesa
>>743333258Left is too AGPcoded for a white(4% irish, 16% italian) male like me.
>>743333258>fake movement
>>743360776
fpsfags are the niggers of gaming you should disappear
I like that most of the points in this thread for classic fps only apply to quake 1 Wtf are you fags talking about with doom and unreal lolUnreal was a DOGSHIT tech demo and doom is boring
>>743333258Zoomers bitch and moan about games not being like quake and unreal despite not playing the genre. It’s all fucking virtue farming.
>>743359216highly based list
>>743361664>Despite not have playingSee>>743358253
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>>743361821>Doom 2016 and Unreal>Amazing>Ultratroon and Transternal>Perfect
God not this faggot's bait again. >>743362104It's perfectly designed to piss people off, don't respond to him
>Just one weapon has more versatility and depth than most oldfag FPS gamesBrutal.
what makes cod & quake so good is that they do present to frame rendering. as in what you see is what you get. every modern fps now triple buffers their frames its like the equivalent of using max frame latency THREE in lossless scaling its input lag city.
>>743333337>He's boasting about playing like a toddlerWhat a retard.
>>743362754>m-m-muh extra 32ms of latency is the reason I can't shoot good!Post reaction benchmark right now.
>>743362675ultrakill is just a massive genre mogging without compare>first FPS game was Maze War (1973)>FIFTY THREE (53) years of FPS games>only ONE, SINGULAR fps game has actual non-shit bossfights>its also some of the best bossfights in the history of character action games
>>743362879its a common complaint in every modern shooter that the mouse feels "floaty" and its by game design because the game engine is buffering 3 frames every d3d flip.https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield6/comments/1o398k9/mouse_input_jittery_laggy/
>>743362913>some shitty unoptimized random aaa games do it and therefore all modern shooters do it???????????????
>>743362950this happens in every shooter thats not cod or quake because those two game engines do present to frame differently.
>>743334084I swear people claiming Unreal was good are just revisionists. Unreal Tournament was really good, but the original Unreal was fucking horrible>Flimsy looking guns vs enemies so spongy Quake doesn't look bad in comparison>The enemies dive around so much in fights you'd think they were making fun of Halo if it wasn't released long after Unreal>Huge sections of walking through empty fields>Secrets rely on you protecting weak NPCs who run into gunfire and immediately draw the fire of the spongy enemies>The plot sucks ass and makes Halo look well written in comparison. "Lol evil reptilians took over this planet and killed the crew of your ship easily but somehow you can overpower their whole army and in the end you achieved nothing despite becoming their own personal boogeyman".
>>743362950ESL
>>743362950Every game uses DirectX 11 or 12 today you fucking jit its input laggy as fuck compared to DX9 or older.
>>743361821>mods fix itI know this is ragebait, but are there actually mods made to "fix" classic doom?
>>743361821when I saw quake and dusk below nu-doom, I knew this was a troll image
>>743363010It was mostly because Unreal was the Crysis of its time. It was THE game you used as a benchmark in the late 90s. Also the world looked incredible for the time, but yeah, even back then I hated the combat. Retrospective reviews today by people who love retro games point out how shit the combat is.
>>743362990>>743363026>>743363059>play some random zoomer shooter>measure input lag>get normal 2-3ms of input lag that i get on my OSokay. now what?
>>743362913>feelsWhat are you, a woman? Either it's "floaty" or it isn't, sound like a made up problem like some 50yo evangelical hag looking at something she dislike and doesn't understand meaning it's "evil".
>>743362913the post you linked doesnt even say anything about the cause youre proposing. they just say its because of the mouse polling ratethis feels like youre blurting out vague shit without having any notion of game renderers
>>743333258>FPS games used to be GOOD.No.
>>743336069>>743334084>>743363010As a edgy teenager (back then) I liked the "MY GOOOOD!" screen in the 1st level and when you shoot those aliens on the foot and they beg for their lives.
>>743363010There's a reason why Unreal was quickly forgotten when Half-Life released. I've only started playing it recently, but everything you said there is true for the most part. I'm still going to finish it, but unless this picks up I'm not coming back.
>>743361821Acceptable list, the most egregious standouts for me are>severed steel on the list but no echo point nova>neon white that low>reaver being that high despite being an abandoned early access game
>>743361821i know this is bait but i cant conceive having reaver this high up even as bait
>>743363010I get if you don't like those things, but I'd say you misunderstand combat. The enemies are not really spongy. They're about as tough as you are. And their AI is very active, making it a challenge to aim and move around. So, almost every combat encounter is like a simulated pvp deathmatch. And you can find fast ways of killing enemies after a bit of experimentation.
>>743340257He was right
Any FPS with health regen inevitably sucks dick. CoD is probably the worst with this, since you're basically forced into this stop-and-go gameplay loop down a hallway. After all, if there are no medpacks or armor pickups, there's no need for exploration to find them. Halo is a bit better with this, but I still dislike it for being too slow and for many of the Covenant weapons merely being plasma variants of the standard human guns.
>>743333337you control the saves you make
