Once again, it's okay when Steam does it.
Maybe it would have landed better if the very last news cycle before it wasn't about Sony revoking access to hundreds of digitally licensed (purchased) products.
>>743345885post specs
valve didn't kill physical media, they killed the need for it and let it fade away on its own. sony is killing physical media.
>>743345885when did pc stop having cd drives anyway? feels like forever ago
Steamies act like Valve is LE GOOD GUY when they're no better than Epic. It's a giant douche vs a turd sandwich.
I trust Valve to not try and fuck me over at every single available opportunity thanks to their immaculate track record.Unfortunately I can't say the same for Sony due to them having a major data breach basically every single year as well as charging people monthly to use their network infrastructure AFTER you've already bought their extremely expensive proprietary hardware. Valve asks me to do neither.
>>743346125Valve could give 10 billion dollars a year to the gay nigger association of black excellence and I'd still use them because it's leaps and bounds better than anything Epic has ever shat out.Why would I give a flying fuck what political organizations a goddamn VIDEO GAME STORE FRONT donates to?
>>743345885Then why did I get a physical disk when I bought the Orange Box?
>>743346380You mean the disk that requires you to log into a Steam account to play the games on it?
>>743345885Steam?
>>743346125Most donations to the DNC are paid opposition donations. They are being funded specifically to be neutered and useless even at things the entire left wants.
>1000th Snoy cope thread this monthlmao
>>743346545haha okay woke lefttriggered by israel much?
digital downloads on pc was a service enhancement that eliminated cd keys and lengthy (sometimes multi-disc) installation processesdigital downloads on console adds a new download process and removes disc ownershipthey are not the same
>>743346125Are you implying that Trump is le good retard?
>download the game files from steam>it is now permanently on my hard drive/ssd/m2 drive/transferable to an external HDD/SDD>forever and evervs>download a game on the playstation>sony loses the rights to the game for some reason>can never play the game ever again
>>743345885>Once again, it's okay when Steam does it.But Steam didn't do it. All of there developed games were released physically, multiple times in fact.
>>743346826brown esl hands typed this post
>>743346110My laptop from 2011 had a CD drive and a hard driveMy 2015 had space a CD drive but not included with it. It also had a hard drive and a slot for an SSD but also not included.My 2021 laptop had no CD drive or hard drive option, just 2 SSD slots.I would say the high speed internet boom and the explosion in hard drive sizes of 2010ish killed the CD drive. People could download the software they needed in a few minutes, stream HD video on youtube/Netflix just as good as cable/DVDs. Hard drive sizes meanwhile went from 20GB to 1TB in about 5 years
Not the same thing. Physical media on PC basically killed itself due to piracy.
>>743346859>i have no argument so i will call him brownhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>>743345885What's the point of a console if it's just a shitty PC?
>>743345885Steam never got rid of physical. I still have my Portal 2 disc which still perfectly installs, connects to Steam, and lets me play my game as intended instead of bricking me like Sony would.
>>743346782Imagine trying to shill here
>>743346483Fucking this. I didn't start using Steam until the early 2010s. I remember buying my last physical PC game (Civ V) and loading it into my disc tray. It made me install Steam to install the game.
>>743346782Prinnies would say this ssu
>>743345964Fippy bippyShould have been/thread
>>743345885The reason people didn't complain as much when physical disappeared for PC was because of the state of anti-piracy measures on late-stage PC game discs. Everything from spyware rootkits to limited activations that couldn't be revoked. It was a complete mess with new community outcries every new release, intrusive and utterly useless for any kind of ownership and preservation, so there was no longer anything to lose. Gaben couldn't have paid for more effective marketing.>>743346110It's not like you can't still buy one if you're putting together a PC. Laptops probably tipped over to default driveless 10+ years ago.
>>743346782The tranny problem can be easily solved, but despite all those guns americans are limp wrist pussies. An even more easy solution is to be involved in your child education but that's too much to ask from amerigolems
I love sucking valve dick
>>743346801your games stop working on steam after a few weeks if you dont sign into steam hehe
>>743346545>Fun Fact: TODAY the Demo-ACK!
>>743346782Who do you think is behind the tranny problem, genius?
>>743345885>go on steam and buy garbage game>it's 80 cents>go on ps store and buy garbage game>it's 80 dollars
Just use gog guys :)
>>743345885>consolefag finds memes on instagram
>>743346995You're triggered because you cannot argue against it. You would rather continuously shoot yourself in the foot and die poor, sick, and retarded than ever admit that you were ever wrong in your life.
>>743347039>Go to cs.rin.ru and own garbage games >Only cost internet data
>>743345885Physical media on PC was obsolete long before valve got their hands on it.
>>743345885Steam didn't remove CD drives from PC. Steam didn't prevent other stores from selling physical PC games. Valve got plenty of flak when they made their games require Steam but you didn't care until now for some reason
>Another dogshit debate over which multi billion dollar corporation is less worse
>>743345885I was downloading the vast majority of my videogames on PC in the early 90s, try again.
>>743346782Why do you want a foreign power to have direct control over your military?
>>743347150It didwhy do you feel the need to lie?Because your side looks bad and you can never admit to reality?https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1192/vote_119_2_00195.htmIf you regret your choice just say so instead of feeling the need to lie for what your side stands for.
>>743346726>Do you or do you not want Foreign countries to have total control of your country?You know our nation was built on Judeo-Christian values, right?
>>743347390>old ass boomer thinks this is a flex
>>743347407Anon they're literally paid posters whose job is to contradict all anti-israel messaging they can find online. Spend your time more productively.
>>743345885>download game>put downloaded game inside usb or cd>play on any pc with Steam installedHow is this different from Playstation's physical media?If you want to even be more thorough you could buy DRM free from GOG, and make a physical media that can be played on any PC.
>>743346985If your Internet is down for that long you've got bigger problems
>>743347449With the internet speeds of that time, it is
>>743347461>Anon they're literally paid posters whose job is to contradict all anti-israel messaging they can find online>anti-valve thread>coincidentally filled with pro israel brigadingI'M NOTICING
Isn't the whole steam connection thing easily cracked on all games anyway? Even in a hypothetical where they prevent you from launching them, you can just take control of your files that way.
>>743347476It works on any PC you don't need a steam deck or a gabe cube.Dumb fuck.
>>743346483You can't play PS5 games without a Sony Entertainment Network account
>>743347578retard
>>743347449Just always hatred physical because of how annoying it was. Especially during the era where you had to mail an envelope of cash with return postage to an address and hope they're still around so they can mail you back a floppy disk with the game on it.
>>743347550Funny but it's not that deep, searching the site for their keywords makes it easy to pop up wherever.
>>743347613I'm not defending that either
>>743346125tim quite literally has meetings with trump lol he's not a commie like gabe
>>743345885Steam doesn't charge me for Internet and has 5 dollar game sales. Eat shit.
Why is this board so retarded? Consoles are a DRM system with cartridges and discs acting as licenses which was the one of the few advantages of said consoles. What the fuck has valve's distribution system anything to do with that?
Funny watching Steamies out themselves as the biggest retards in gaming now that Sony is doing what Valve did over a decade ago
>>743346591We still own Israel.
>>743347772People just want to argue over dumb shit and bait for attention,I pray to god that they aren't serious about it.
>>743345885>Buy GAME for PS3 on marketplaceSony releases the PS4, can't play ps3 market place games on it.>Buy GAME for PS4.Sony releases PS5, can't play PS4 marketplace games on it.>Buy GAME on PS5...Mean while in Steamland>Buy GAME on pcYou're done, you have that game until either Steam dies or the heat death of the universe. No backwards compatibility problems, no generation divides, no random rugpulls. People TRUST Steam because they have earned that trust. People don't trust any of the other distributors because they have EARNED that distrust.
>>743345885Steam games without denuvo are easily cracked, you have the choice as a consumer to circumvent anything you wish to. Console players do not have that sort of grey area until an exploit comes out.
>>743347806>snoyniggers still trying to justify getting raped in the ass by Sony
>>743347869Nice low IQ "comparison" now that happens when Gaben dies you fucking brain dead retard
>>743347937if you can't transfer the license then its not ownership, nothing digital can be owned
>>743345885Valve has consistently allowed you to access your purchases in the 22 years it's been around. If you bought a game in 2005, you can still sign into Steam and play it on your new PC right now. Even if Steam was to suddenly be anti-consumer, it's laughably easy to pirate all the games you had on your account compared to doing so on a PS5
>>743347937all it takes is some AI written slop for people like you to be complacent, be better
>>743348003Okay? I can still download my PSP games that I bought and that won't be changing.
>>743348003post your weight and body count
>>743345885yeah but you can't download whatever you want on a piss station 5
>>743345885The difference is that Steam is not pushing you to do this on hardware that you don't own.[Insert console company here] has full administrative rights over your console when it is connected to the internet.The only problems with digital are unenforceable EULAs and hardware/software you don't own fucking you over and forcing you to conform to those EULAs, and there are repeated examples of this affecting physical media as well.
>>74334611015 years ago at the latest. I don't even know what a disc feels like anymore.
>>743345885>STOP USING STEAM I HATE THEM>why>STOOOOPP GABEN IS EVIL, MUH YACHTS>...no>AIIIIIIIEEEEE STEAM CULTISTS AAAA FUCK YOU STEAMIE AAAA FUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOUbasically what all of these threads turn into other than explaining in detail why steam and pc in general is different to PS going all digital but in an effort to mentally DDOS posters, other people just pretend to be retarded and not understand the difference. Theres plenty to criticize steam for but every single thread just brings up the most banal, inconsequential, misinterpreted bullshit or outright lies that are easilly to dispel.
>>743346959It's getting harder and harder to find decent cases with 5 1/2" bays
If Valve decides to stop selling a game:>still have access to it in your library>physical versions may exist, depending on the game>other digital places like Epic or GOG will have the game>9 million different pirate sites will have the gameSnoyshekelbergwitz going digital only:>Snoy can and will arbitrarily delete your games at their whim>zero options to get a refund or download it elsewhere>money stolen to help rebuild cities (Zach)
>>743348000>>743348042Can you show me the practical real-world effect of "not ownership" at any point?
>>743345885I can install a game from a DVD and play it through steam. thats's a feature they offer.
>>743345885Chatgpt says PC is superior for gamers. I asked this question.
>>743345885that's because steam is based and white, whereas snoy is gay and westoidal, retard
>>743345885The problem is that Steam ended pic related People crying over a generic plastic bluray case with a single disc is just retarded.
I've lost more games I purchased on physical media than I ever have on my Steam account. That is to say I lost zero games doing business with Valve. The integrity of my purchase on Steam is far greater with literally zero effort on my part than buying a disc.
>>743345885Valve never took anything away, they just offered an alternative. Sony is deliberately taking something away.
>>743345885>can crack games pc without consequences>crack your ps5 and your money gets stolen and your console is turned into a paperweightthat's the difference
>>743346985its really not that difficult to bypass steam DRM nowadays
>>743348559oh well if chatgpt said so
>>743348714see >>743348000
>>743345885steam was only part of it, the other part was the most played games all being download-only F2P shit.
>>743346774>digital downloads on pc was a service enhancementno it wasn't retard. steam ended game tradeins, rentals and lending
>>743346959>the state of anti-piracy measures on late-stage PC game discs.1. snoyggers don't know anything about that because a) they're zoomers so it was before they were born and/or b) they're niggers so they either didn't have a pc back then or have NEVER had ond2. steam derangement syndrome shills pretend it didn't happen
>>743348636Even if you had an external disc drive, I doubt any of them would install or be playable on a modern PC without having to find fixes on github.
>>743345885I hate Steam for doing that as well (still have my copy of Orange Box), but at least PC isn't a closed environment, at least there are options besides Steam.
>>743348000not once in any of these threads for literally months have you proven that a disc is a transferable license.
>>743345885>/v/ contrarianism has gotten so bad they defend fucking sony
>>743345885You can still use physical media with your PC, software developers are free to distribute physically if they want to stillSony controls all physical disk production for their consoles and holds the lever to kill it.
>>743345885Posted it again award.Kys OP.
>>743345885None my games have been removed from my account which is 20 years old, so yeah, it is ok when steam does it
I can just put my games on a USB
>>743345885I can insert a disc from 2006 in my computer and it still just works 20 years later
>>743347806>over a decade ago
>>743348636No you retard, game companies did. Steam was just the answer/end result.
>>743345885YES
>>743345964first post best post
>steam killed physicalwhy can't game companies just make discs and tie it to a steam license like valve did
>>743345964Yep, thread's over
>>743347939spelling mistake, you lose
>>743349139Game companies ended physical media 20 years ago?
>>743349087Maybe after half an hour of searching for and configuring compatibility patches so it can run on a modern OS.
>>743346125>they give money to people I don't like that means their launcher is shit
>>743347869>>Buy GAME for PS4.>Sony releases PS5, can't play PS4 marketplace games on it.PS5 plays all PS4 games though, huh? No backwards compatibility with DA CELL or PS1/PS2 is bullshit though, agreed.
>>743345885And? Steam isn't the only way to get games on pc. Plus I can still buy games on disc (buy them for my grandma)
>>743349087>cd key can't be verified
>>743347656My first pc only had a 6gb hard drive (which was a lot at the time) and games on discs was a godsend because otherwise i'd have no space on my hard drive.
>>743345885Hello, uneducated snoy. The game industry actively wanted to make physical gaming obsolete through the 2000's, including by raping them with malware-tier "copy protection". Gabe merely offered a better option than where PC gaming was headed.
>>743349403>what are cracks
do people really not realize you can literally copypaste the files you download from steam and just run the exe directly without steameven for the games that have steam drm, there's a bunch of one-click programs to remove or bypass itmost cracks are just the clean steam files plus a generic api emulator drag and dropped over them
>>743349493zoomers can't even manage a file directory
the brainwashing and cognitive dissonance of /v/ in this thread, lmao
>>743346110You could still buy brand new internal BDXL optical drives as recently as a year or two ago. You can still buy PC cases with the bays too.
>>743349536don't even need to, theres a button to browse local files when you right click
>>743348913NTA but i accept that every game i play has manual fixes involved which is why i have PC gaming wiki bookmarked on my browser. They're not even usually hard to fix either. Only the most obscure games that aren't that popular is the ones you'll have a tougher time with. That being said dgvoodoo2 is good for a majority of the time. Even if it gets a shader wrong every once in a while. It's never usually been a deal breaker in my experience.
>>743345885to this day /v/ still defends lootboxes in tf2
PC will always win, I can play any game ever made forever no matter how niche and obscure it is. On console you only get whatever mainstream normalfag approved games the corporation allows you to have on their locked down hardware/platform.Like it's not even an argument, "muh physical" tards have a very low IQ and don't even understand how anything works.And I can use any controller mouse keyboard arcade fight stick flight stick steering wheel and get 240fps if I want.
>>743345885Everyone who uses Steam is by definition a cuck.
>>743346131Wrong, you trust Gaben. You have nothing but hope Steam won't change anything when he dies. Remember what Steam offers is not a right but a handout. They could walk it back any Time and there is really no other option on PC.
>>743350043No, that's console users who are not even allowed to use the systems they paid for on a deeper level. PC GODS are free to tinker and customise their machines as they please, while console cucks get whacked the second they try to do something more than playing games and watching movies.
>>743348795you couldn't do that with pc games
Why are console cucks so obsessed with selling their games anyway? Is it because they're poor and don't even like gaming?
>>743345885keep posting it timmy
>>743345885steambots shoved way too much money into the DRM cuckshed to just leave it now, so they will defend this woke faggot company no matter what
>>743345885Do you think Sony is going to be as good of a digital games storefront as Valve? Will they have regular 75-90% off sales? because I'm not spending more than $15 on a digital game, ever. Sony thinks they're going to come out like fat cats by killing the used games economy and charging full MSRP for digital rentals, and they're going to learn the hard way why they're wrong.
>>743350561>DRM cuckshedBut enough about consoles.
>>743346339because if they become globoshlomo levels of liberal they will cancel you for no-no wrongthinks and ban your account, thus preventing you from playing games you paid for. Sony already does this, along with poor consumer practices in general. Not to mention Steam is free to sign up for and use outside of the actual purchases, while PSN is an additional subscription on top of everything else.
>>743346103distinction without a difference
>>743348913I can simply use an older machine if I want to play older games without tinkering. However most popular games did get fixes.
>>743350658You can run around the Steam forums being a heccin chud and the worst thing that will happen will be a long-ass ban from accessing community features while you will still be allowed to buy and play games including online. Valve only cares about scamming and cheating.
apples, oranges, etc.
>>743350493I don't care why other people sell games. What matters is that I can buy them for cheap, because I'm a frugal person on principle, but Sony is killing that off, so I won't be buying a PS6. People also like collecting things, and physical games have value even if you don't plan on selling them, and sometimes even gain value over time, while digital games have zero value regardless.
>>743345885not the same, nigger OP, but you knew this already.
>>743350812>People also like collecting things, and physical games have value Not really. And they only "gain value" through artificial means related to scarcity and scalping.
>>743350074>and there is really no other option on PC.Piracy is an option.
>>743345964fpbpWhat sony did was exactly the worst case scenario of what steam detractors say would happen when steam goes down.
>>743350708>without a differencethere is a difference though, youre just too retarded or dishonest to discuss iton PC you can install a disk drive, burn your games to disk, and make them physical yourself>b-but what about online che-spoof them or bypass them, its PC, and this rarely happens outside of live service slop games anyway>b-but what if steam delet-they dont>b-but what if they delist the ga-doesnt matter, they NEVER remove games you bought from your library. Even if a game is pulled from the store, they still service anyone who boughted it>b-b-but!youre done.
>>743345885Neither is bad. Discs are obsolete technology now that internet speeds are so fast and hard drives so large.On PC you own games regardless of the storage medium, so physical vs digital doesn't matter.On a console you don't own games regardless of the storage medium, so physical vs digital doesn't matter
>>743350854>Not really.you were born after 2010 weren't you. my PS1 library alone is worth thousands of dollars more than I paid for it when the games first released. you can't possibly argue that people don't like collecting things.
https://github.com/inflation/goldberg_emulatorhttps://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games_on_SteamDigital games on PC are not the same as on consoles, even with Steam.
>>743350740>>743350917>enshittification of the platform that has full control over your games will never happen because...IT JUST WON'T OK!?I will still keep using DRM-free platforms, keep being a good goy for Jewell and future valve owners
>>743350974>He forgot about the SSD shortage which caused not only solid state prices to skyrocket, but HDDs too...
>>743350074>copecopecopecopecopecopecopecopecopecopebored. Are you done yet?
>>743350994I was born in 1997. Your "thousands of dollars" is completely meaningless in a world where everyone can just play every single one of your games for free.>>743351003>I will still keep using DRM-free platformsI hope you're not talking about consoles here.
>>743350074>there is really no other option on PC.really?>piracy>other stores>physical does still exist anyway>get steam game>download files>convert to iso>mount or burn to disk>wao its now physical or locally stored forever!you realise that, those pirate sites are also getting and copying the game from somewhere, yes? You can too, we just choose to pay because we arent poor, brown, and live on a high-trust platform.if steam died wed just download are games and keep them, and/or get them from the internet.
i can't fucking wait for snoys to realize they're going to have to spend thousands of dollars for disk space to download all their poorly optimized 250GB moviegames. funny OP would bring up Steam, because all that makes me think is why would I buy a $1200 always-online-required only-digital rental box PS6 when I already have a PC with more customization and utility, and a Steam library and Steam is the better service vs PSN? you buy consoles for exclusives anyway, and playstation just doesn't have them anymore. seriously what do they even have that you can't play on PC at this point? Ghosts of Josei? God of War? Is that it? I'm honestly a little sad that playstation is killing itself, but not sad enough to buy one when it offers me nothing.
>>743351182are you brain damaged? collecting physical games has nothing to do with playing them. i don't even play my own physical games anymore, I emulate them. that doesn't diminish their collectible value at all.
>>743348000You place too much importance on what the jews say on your license and not enough on the actual practical aspects. You can't mod a physical game. You can't make copies lf a physical game. In practical terms (the only terms that matter) you don't own it, even if the hebrew on the jew-paper says you do.
>>743351297So you don't even consider your collection to have value and don't play any of your games? As usual, console gamers are braindead morons. Guess it really goes as far as the PS1.
>>743351307the hebrew small print is the part telling you that you DON'T own it, anon. and that's the part that doesn't matter in practical terms. i don't give a fuck what they think or say when I literally own the data on my disk and can mod it and copy it without their permission or knowledge as I see fit. you can't do that on a locked down rent machine like the PS6 though, at least not before smarter people than us crack it wide open 10+ years from now.
>>743351064I already have enough storage to last me at least a decade assuming the bubble somehow doesn't pop before then. Sorry to hear you took too long to get in.
>743351408>you don't even consider your collection to have value and don't play any of your games? are you genuinely retarded? do you have an intellectual impairment that causes you to mentally process the complete opposite of what has been written? i'm not even giving you a (You) for your brown ESLpost.
>>743351502Nice assumption, but I have a stack of SSDs in the downstairs office. But as a non-retarded person, I see myself as lucky and cannot assume the same for others.
>>743351553Your entire "collection" is worthless and only has imaginary meme value. Dilate.
>>743345885I built my own PC 15 years ago and have spent another 2k since then on upgrades, including a new motherboard. I was planning on using CD tray from my old old computer but the wires were different. I never bothered buying a compatible CD-tray in 15 years and only remember my PC cant use CDs when someone else talks about it. To me a part of the appeal of consoles is the ability to just plug in and play without worrying about internet and downloading updates. in fact dark souls 2 version 1.0 is one of my most prized gaming possessions and if I didnt have the CD i would never get to play it.I will never buy a console that relies on internet / streaming/ DLC.
>>743345885I'm sick of hearing this shit about Steam.Call me a cultist or whatever, but as someone who was well and alive when Steam was brand new, I'll tell you why OP's image is wrong.1) Not everyone liked Steam when it was released, including me! I made my account almost 2 years after Steam was launched, because I thought it was going to fail within a year. Well surprise surprise, I was wrong about that. 2) Steam was not an overnight success. Yes, a lot of people used it for Half-Life 2 and Counter-Strike: Source, but that's what most people played, for YEARS. Yeah, YEARS. Steam didn't get other big PC games until around 2007, 4 god damn years after Steam was launched, and even then, it was not the most popular way to get games because physical games were still being made. Don't believe me? https://web.archive.org/web/20081019151704/http://www.store.steampowered.com/statsThis is from 2008. See the top played games? What do they all have in common? Yeah, they're Valve games. Notice how they completely demolish the other games in popularity? BECAUSE STEAM WAS NOT THAT POPULAR. 3) Steam is not the only thing that has made physical "obsolete". Netflix, Youtube, Spotify, newspapers, magazines, hell even the telephone was made obsolete. I get it, we're gamers, and games is what we're going to be talking about, but Steam is no different than anyone else, and yet nobody seems to complain about those other things. 4) There have been attempts at digital distribution for games, before Steam. Sega Channel ring a bell? Shareware? Probably not because most of you were still shitting in your diapers or were a glimmer in your dad's eye. The industry has always hated physical games, and have been itching for digital distribution for decades. So there you go. I'm a cultist, I'm a shill, unc's mad, whatever, but you're still wrong.
>>743345885fat jewish billionaires are the chads of the gamer office
>>743348636This is no better than a funko pop collection
>>743352145This. And fuck you for reminding me about sega channel and how much it sucked when the ended the service. But in addition to literally everything you've just said, our PCs aren't locked to steam. I have epic, steam, GOG, and archives of games from over the years on my PC, going so far as to burn them to m-disc. Thats forever.
>>743349348Game companies found it to be too expensive to keep making big box games and retailers didn't really want to keep carrying them since they never sold as well as console games. A parent could come in and know a ps2 game will work on any ps2, but a game may or may not work at all if they aren't tech savvy. As soon as internet could handle the file sizes they were eager to make the transition.
>>743354114An addendum: They did transition to smaller box games and then even eventually those dissapeared and then all we had left were jewel case casual games some of which had a slip cover which still persist to some degree to this day (mostly for old people).
>>743350441You could
>>743345964Instantly bodied. I'm not even particularly tribal with this shit, but man are the faggots seething about Steam 24/7 disingenuous.
>>743345885Because only consoletards care about discs, and completely ignore the fact their console is fully locked down brick that only does the things its real owner (the company that produced it) allows. PC lets you run your own software, copy and modify the files. You can even burn those files to disk if you wanted to, but why use such a bad physical storage media?
>>743345885There is a huge differenceSteam keeps you games indefinately, and estore for an average console lives for 10 years and then just fucking dies lmao.
>>743348795CD keys ended that, not Steam.
>>743346985Already proved that wrong, by the way. why do consolegroids lie so much?
>>743345885Physical media was the last major advantage of owning a Sony console. Now that it's gone, what is even the point in owning one? At least Nintendo has games, Sony just has Astrobot and a bunch of other exclusives that are unplayable woke garbage.
>>743346110Never, you can still buy and use them if you want.
Storage price explosion might challenge steam soon but not right now
>>743348559why do you think this means anything
As a PCfag I've always had a fondness to creating and collecting my own personal copies, backups of files I own. I had a lot of floppies, then I was burning discs faster than grandma, and now I have loads of harddrives. That's my physical media as far as I'm concerned. I buy from Steam and GOG but I make sure to *also* get a copy from elsewhere for backup purposes.Consolefags generally don't have this luxury. They must collect and consume whatever the companies sell them instead. They are a lesser species and always have been.
>>743345885>be on PC>can buy games from a variety of platform and websites>you can choose a price that fits your needs>more often than not you can find price cuts for anything remotely old>you have more than one storefront to choose from>ability to back up your games how many times you want>be on Sony console>only one store remains>they dictate prices for everything>they dictate when and if games are going on sale>you need a sony account to buy games>you can backup games only if sony allows youyeah man TOTALLY the same thing.
>>743345885>snoy trying to copy steam going digitals>got backlash>ceo and shareholders selling their stocks to prepareYou can keep seething lmao.
>>743351246>seriously what do they even have that you can't play on PC at this point? Ghosts of Josei? God of War? Is that it?Anon, the average dude buying a playstation does that mainly because it's seen as the cheaper option to play games.This, paired with its status symbol made many people assume it was the de-facto way to play games.They don't care about exclusives because the thought of having other options to enjoy games is a completely foreign thought to them. It doesn't even register.So as long as Sony keeps providing the last games, the majority of Sony Playstation customers won't care about exclusives.
>>743345964Honestly this.They said>no more physical mediaand>we're taking your digital content away because you don't actually own itin the same breath
>>743345964/bread
People who fight for physical media are just mentally retarded. What they should be fighting for is digital media rights, so digital media is act protected from anti-consumer practices as physical media is. Besides, Sony can still take away your physical games>game requires online? sony can take it>game has licenses for music that sony no longer wants to pay for? sony can take the music with a patch>game requires a network service for updates/bugfixes/whatever else? sony can turn off that service rendering your game unplayable in certain circumstancesThese are things that should not be happening. To any physical or digital game. What we need is consumer protections and rights, not "muh hard disks" and normalfags are the most retarded subhumans alive.
>>743356632SKG tried exactly that and failed miserably due to Yves Guillemot meeting behind closed doors with the EU commission.The initiative is still there since the signatures are proof enough there's enough sentiment around to look for a change, but it's been damaged by that.Once again Ubisoft proved itself being a blight on gaming.
>>743351246Why do consoles still use disks? We have SD cards so small you could fit like 50 of them into a smartphone with 500gb-1tb storage space. Why aren't games on SD cards?
>>743356740Apart from the fact that you can't really assume your average dudebro to NOT lose so many SD cards, it's way more expensive to produce than a disc.
What a worthless thread. Few trolls pretend to not understand that PC allows you to edit files as you see fit.
>>743346125Based Valve, fuck the republican party and fuck israel.
>>743345885>introduce new service every user willingly switches to from the existing one>erase existing service and force every user to switch to a new onegamer mindset is a mistery
steam is on pc, a platform that doesn't limit what the user can doconsoles are, they're literally made to be drm and control their users, you can't use the hardware without submitting to themlearn the differenceconsoles are a gun free zone in a police state while pc has nonexistent gun control laws
>>743350773>grapelet opinion
>>743346985I don't think that's true but Im not a super 4th worldy who can't get internet for months at a time.Last time I didn't have internet was from moving and it worked the entire long duration
>>743346125why are corporations allowed to do this
>>743360321those are not corporationsthis is listing employee donationslook up where valve's headquarters are
>keep saying it
>>743345964>”purchased”*Can we please learn to use proper syntax, please.
>>743350708Not at all. It’s the difference between top down and bottom up. The difference between planned obsolescence and obsolete. Between astroturfed and organic .
>sold you a physical orange box>didn't have to>OMG GABEN BAD!!1!None of you cretins complaining ever had to go Frye's or Software Etc and pray they had a copy of the boxed PC game you wanted.>Are you guys getting in (game)?>"Uh, maybe. Corporate orders them. Check back next month."Only children have this fantasy vision of the past when PC gaming was convenient and cheap.
>>743355982>means anythingIt actually does though. Because it's not a very hard to answer question at all. It's pretty damn obvious actually but consolesnoycucks are attempting to downplay it post these latest news announcements too. Aside from stating the obvious facts about all of PC gaming benefits for having complete control over your games we're also judging where things are right now since consoles have abandoned discs. That is why this answer is now much more definitive as well. Sony killed the discs before the PS6 even launched. This transitional period is going to see less discs than ever before. What chatGPT can't predict or didn't say is that the scam for anyone who owns a disc drive attached to their PS5 going forward is already in effect because every gaming company is likely getting cold feet now and it's going to make the PS5's library even more of a barren wasteland with digital licenses up the ass.
>>743345885I can still play Rocket League on my Steam account because I acquired it before Epic bought the rights.I bet that if P.T. had been released on Steam, I’d still be able to play it.It's awesome...
>>743346125Why specify white /v/ like that? I feel singled out.
>>743360646I'm still waiting for examples of games that Steam has removed from its catalog and as such, can no longer be played, even if you've already purchased them.Unlike the Playstation Store....
>>743346125>Why's come them high IQ software developing critters don't like supportin' my angry klan ideologies?Simple solution here is to just spend your money at the Red-state, Jesus approved, nigger-hatin', banjo pluckin', Hee-Haw gaming platform....oh right.
>>743348636maybe most people care more about being able to play these games in 10 years rather than having a plastic box on a shelf.Steam is running for 20 years. If it ever closes down or becomes anti consumer you can always go back to piracy. Good luck with your plastic box running games in 10
Valve isn't making physical media, they are not making media period. They can't stop producing something that they are not producing at all
>>743361053True.It's the job of game companies to make media for PC, not Valve.Complain with them.
>>743360609And there was plenty of complaining over HL2 requiring Steam, being effectively the first code-in-a-box. The disc only being useful as installation media for those with poor internet, and a mere trinket otherwise.
>>743348636Get on Etsy and there's a dozen people waiting for you to pay them for a game box replica.Feel free to fill your fucking house with PC game boxes no one (especially you) is going to pick up and look at. If you want a box, you can get a box.
>>743345885when sony does it to their established video game stores, they shut down the entire experience and lose their customers who prefer tangibility. if they made the disc experience then they should live and die by it, not pretend they can be another steam store when their ecosystem is entirely different.. preorder bonuses in japan like tapestries or other merch that are across numerous retailers in japan that aren't a stupid early access get fucked over, and so the early access rubbish for preordering will be pushed even more. pc games are their own product. but console games maintained a balance. they should just give up on the console market and stop buying exclusivity if they are going to do this.and while steam entirely leaves it to publishers to offer sales, sony barely offers sales for bargain bin games and even takes down games that are known to be jailbreak exploits and only reinstate them months later, and if your playstation breaks down you have to get another playstation whereas with steam you can get any pc. steam is actually the one becoming as bad as playstation with crap offerings and controller tied to software, not the other way round. sony greed is the root of all this, the japanese shareholders always like to ask why there is foreign competition and why can't playstation have its own domestic version of steam.https://gigazine.net/gsc_news/en/20260714-online-dont-replace-closed-bookshops
>>743361253>plenty of complaining over HL2 requiring Steam"Plenty" in 2004 would be a few dozen guys on vidya forums.They were rightly drowned out by the rest of us enjoying cheap, readily available PC games without driving eight miles to a fucking brick and mortar store with random contents and sales tax.
>>743361136So, why do people blame Steam for "killing off physical media" when the choice wasn't theirs, but rather the video game companies', who based their decisions on what consumers wanted?Don't you think that if there were a demand for physical media on PC, video game companies would have found a way to meet it?Consolekeks arguments makes no sense.
>>743345885valve doesn't charge me a monthly fee to play games online. I feel like they're playing in a different division to sony with totally different rules
>>743345885>physical media>actually anon means physical distribution>but but>burn the disk yourself nigger
>>743361503Because the Rothschilds are paying those faggots after they got raped in court.
>>743361503>Don't you think that if there were a demand for physical media on PCWhen was the last time anybody saw a PC for sale with any kind of physical disc drive already installed?If people wanted that shit, there'd be blu-ray readers on every PC at Costco. Nobody does. Non-autists throw their media in the trash or give it to Salvation Army when they're bored with it. AVGN type hoarders are the extreme minority.How do you move with 1200 video game boxes?>Hey, be careful with those. That's my collection of classic video game boxes.>*every moving-man thinking: "What a fucking colossal virgin faggot."
Why are brown people so against digital media?
>>743361485>"Plenty" in 2004 would be a few dozen guys on vidya forums.What else was there at the time?>"Plenty" in 2026 would be a few hundred guys on social media and a bunch of slacktivist likes and re-tweets.Relatively speaking I'd say it was similar to the GTA6 outcry now.
>>743362334brown people are the ones that believe in the voodoo properties of physical mediabitch, you're just getting a read only encrypted disc/flash drive with a proprietary connectorthe only thing you can really do with it is sell it and that's just worse than piracy
>>743361858It’s funny that this doesn’t happen with books.Having a bookshelf makes you look intelligent, refined, and elegant, even with e-books existing.
>>743364239It's a similar thing with having a vinyl vs a CD music collection. The culprit is largely plastic, which is an unsightly and cheap-looking material. Obviously a game collection is never going to seem as sophisticated as a music collection, and a music collection is never going to seem as sophisticated as a book collection, but still, a shelf full of big-box PC games in good condition will look infinitely better than a red and blue wall of plastic Nintendo and PlayStation cases.Change the chair in your image to a plastic lawnchair and it would immediately go from sophisticated to looking like a favela basement.
>>743364239Books are resilient because the information they contain is directly accessible to humans, you just need to know how to read.This alone gives physical books an instant advantage. You don't need a computer or similar device to decode the book for you.In the case of games, it doesn't matter where you got the data from, the end result is always the same. In fact, physical media is inherently inferior because it takes longer to access the data. However, in the case of consoles, since they are closed systems, physical media ends up being a necessary evil, because it's the only way you have any control over that game's data.On a PC, you can do whatever you want with the data (that's why piracy is 1,000 times more of a problem on PCs than on consoles), on consoles, you're at the mercy of the corporation that sold you the device, so physical media is important for you to help balance the seller-buyer relationship a little.
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